1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: This podcast is presented by Pacific Office Automation, proud partner 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals. Learn more at Pacificoffice dot Com. 3 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: J J. Watt in the backfield j J. Watt Baby 4 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: counter to the ten, to the five and end of 5 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: the end zone for the touchdown. Welcome to Cardinals Underground, 6 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 1: presented by Pacific Office Automation. Visit Pacificoffice dot com. Problem 7 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: solved touchdown Tyler Murray. That defender is in multiple pieces. 8 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: All that was nasty. Writer writes the latest news and 9 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: notes from the insiders who cover the teams. Drilled by Simmons. 10 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons is balling, Bring it on, Bring it on. 11 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: Slim the ground by Buda Baker like a torpedo. He 12 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: came flying into the backfield, pink skirt and nobody. Here's 13 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: Paul caldc. Finally, I think we all have one thing 14 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: in common, and that is we have all spoken to 15 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: the new Cardinals head coach. And now we're going to 16 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:05,639 Speaker 1: talk about what we've experienced so far with Jonathan Gannon 17 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: first day on the job. Here at Cardinal's Underground, brought 18 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: you by a Pacific Office Automation. Paul Kelvci, Danny Serek 19 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: Darren Urban Darren was nodding along, sort of like the 20 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: players were nodding, even if you were fist pumping when 21 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 1: he threw out the four pillars of his vision being adaptable, violent, explosive, 22 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: and smart. And I was in the back of the 23 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 1: room because we were doing some pre and post press 24 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 1: conference coverage as I failed to go ahead and turn 25 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,199 Speaker 1: off my phone over here. It's a busy day, Paul, 26 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: there's no there's that's okay and happy. And you could 27 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: tell just from the players just the mannerisms that there 28 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: was immediate buying. They liked what they were hearing. How 29 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: about you, guys, what stood out to you? I mean, 30 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: first of all, when you say that, like, we had 31 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: a chance to talk to zach Ertz a little bit 32 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: after it was over, and I asked him, like, does 33 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: the press conference mean anything to you? You know, that's 34 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: it's a press conference. But he was like, yeah, because 35 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: that's one of the reasons I wanted to be here, 36 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: why a lot of us wanted to be here, was 37 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: because we don't want to hear what the plan is 38 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: through the media. We want to hear it from his 39 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: own mouth. And now zach Ertz already has a relationship 40 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 1: with Jonathan Gannon, having spent an offseason training camp in 41 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: half a season with him when he was in Philadelphia, 42 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: and he said he really really loves Gannon. He thinks 43 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: that all the Eagles players loved playing for Jonathan Gannon. 44 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: And he also heard good things from Vikings players when 45 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: Gannon was on the Viking staff. But I think zach 46 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: Ertz was saying a lot of the same things I was, 47 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: which is, you are you automatically feel the difference. The 48 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: first thing that jumps out Paul is that and this 49 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,959 Speaker 1: has you know, we don't know if Jonathan Gannon is 50 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: going to be a successful coach, but he is absolutely 51 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: the opposite of what Cliff Kingsbury was. Cliff Kingsbury, as 52 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: Danny was saying when we were off air, it was 53 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: a little more guarded with how he talked, and you 54 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: get the sense Jonathan Gannon's going to be real guarded. 55 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 1: He's gonna say what he thinks. He has absolutely got 56 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: a definitive plan, not just on defense, not just how 57 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: he wants to be a head coach, but also for 58 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: the offense. He didn't get real specific, but that tells me, 59 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: like Kyler sitting in front. We're gonna have a great relationship, 60 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: but I'm going to kind of tell you how this 61 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 1: is going to be done. That's that's kind of how 62 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: I just absorbed at all. Yeah, I got a chance 63 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: to sit down for a one on one interviewer showcasing 64 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,119 Speaker 1: actually our new Sea Geeks studio. So go check out 65 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: that interview on our website and YouTube channel to get 66 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: a sneak peek at one part of that new studio, 67 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: which is really nice. But I really enjoyed getting to 68 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: talk with the new head coach because he seemed very 69 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: genuine and I know that that can can say you 70 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: can say that that's what every coach is going to 71 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: be like on their first day and all their interviews, 72 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: but not just on camera, whether that was with myself, 73 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: whether that was with other things we were doing in 74 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: the studio, has press once. He was the same when 75 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: he was off camera and everyone was just kind of 76 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: getting a chat with him and get to know him. 77 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: And by that, I need the energy and the passion 78 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: and the way that he was conducting himself didn't seem 79 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: like he was flipping a switch when the lights came on, 80 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: and he seemed very genuine and going off what Darren said. 81 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: I was talking to him about the defense and how 82 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 1: you transformed this defense the way he coached a top 83 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: five Eagles defense this season in total yards allowed, sacks, takeaways, 84 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: had a lot of success there, and then also talking 85 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: about his quarterback and the offense and how you elevate 86 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: that and the characteristics he's going to be looking for 87 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 1: in an offensive Cordiner, of which he said is top 88 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: of his to do list now as he's starting to 89 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: compose his staff. And he was very excited, which we 90 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: saw in a video that was put out on the 91 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: Cardinals social media earlier in the week when Jonathan Gannon 92 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: was here. He has interview Monday. He was still in 93 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: the building on Tuesday and he had his bags in 94 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 1: his hand halfway out the door, and owner Michael Bidwell said, oh, 95 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray's the weight room, which is right around the corner, 96 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: and you can watch the video. Jonathan Ganna literally drops 97 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: his bags and runs to go meet his franchise quarterback. 98 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 1: He is very exciting. Gannon has a good point when 99 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: he said that first of all, there aren't many opportunities 100 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: right only thirty two in the league, but to come 101 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: in with a team that already has their franchise quarterback, 102 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 1: somebody who was young and as talented as Kyler Murray 103 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: makes his job, I'm sure even better as he's stepping 104 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: into this. Yeah. Ask Frank Wright in Carolina, Damiko Ryan's 105 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 1: in Houston, asked his former car LLeague Shane steike In 106 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: in Indianapolis, all of whom are looking for that guy, 107 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 1: looking for that QB one, And you're right. I mean, 108 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: it was interesting because off the top we recorded his 109 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: segment for The Big Red Rage, and one of my 110 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 1: first questions was he didn't look nervous. Did you feel 111 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: nervous up there. I've seen a lot of first time 112 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: head coach press conferences and they were mighty nervous. And 113 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 1: He's he just looked at me and said no, He's like, 114 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: as long as you're honest and yourself, there's nothing to 115 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: be nervous about. I think also combined with the fact 116 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 1: he would meet Philly media on a weekly basis, so 117 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: you know, with all due respect to our us and 118 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: our fellow colleagues in the Phoenix media, that ain't nothing 119 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: compared to what you're gonna get in Philadelphia in the 120 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 1: cross examination you'll get from Eagles writers on a weekly basis. 121 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: I mean, if we're going to step it up, if 122 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 1: we're going to talk about Philadelphia, I mean, let's face it, 123 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: there's an outside chance, maybe not an outside chance, that 124 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 1: he's actually breathing a sigh of relief being out of 125 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 1: Philadelphia now, given the fact that as successful as he 126 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 1: was for two seasons, all he got was grief for it. Well, 127 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: I forget where it was it might have been. I was, 128 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: I was on with Wolf earlier this week. Did you 129 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: guys read this story during Super Bowl media night? He 130 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: told one of the Eagles beat writers, because the question 131 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: to him was, why don't you think the Eagles fan 132 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 1: base is totally on board with you? Seventy sacks fifteen 133 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: more than the other team in the regular season, as 134 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: you said, Danny, top three, top five, and every meaningful 135 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: defensive metric. And he told his story. Jonathan Gannon walking 136 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: into a restaurant with his wife and three young kids, 137 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: and before long, in his words, he got quote dog 138 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: cussed by a bunch of Eagles fans in the restaurant. 139 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 1: He turned to his wife, he said, well, ain't that something. 140 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,119 Speaker 1: We've won five in a row and I'm still getting 141 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: cussed out. So if he didn't say this, but I 142 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: said this before we even met Jonathan Gannon, if he 143 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: was intent on leaving Philadelphia for reasons like that, I 144 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: wouldn't blame him. I really wouldn't based on that sort 145 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: of fan base. If he's getting that sort of treatment. Well, 146 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: and just briefly touching on if he were to leave Philadelphia, 147 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: I do like that. In the press conference, it was 148 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: cleared up because something that had been roaming Twitter social 149 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: media was an interview a couple of weeks back during 150 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: the playoffs when Jonathan Gannon was interviewed by I believe 151 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: it was a local media member in Philly. It was 152 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: a Fox TV station. Had to ask the question, Danny, 153 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: I'll let you take it away. Then don't answer, well, well, 154 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: somebody just it was going around social media. A lot 155 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: of Philly fans were upset that. A few weeks ago, 156 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: Jonathan Gannon was asked if he's planning on leaving Philly. 157 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: He said, no, I don't plan on leaving. This is 158 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: where I'm going to be. And Gannon cleared that up 159 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: in his press conference with GM Monnie awesome for it 160 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: and owner Michael Bidwell that that was the case because 161 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: the only team Gannon had interviewed with at that time 162 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: had been the Texans, and Gannon had already be informed 163 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: that they were going in a different direction. Because Gannon 164 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: didn't even know he was going to interview with the 165 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: Cardinals until Sunday night after the Super Bowl and he 166 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: was told, you're not flying back with the team, You're 167 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: going to stay here and interview with the Cardinals. So 168 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,119 Speaker 1: Ganna was getting a lot of flak from Philly fans 169 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: that you said you weren't going to leave, like go 170 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: on and leave, you lie to us, when that wasn't 171 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: the case. Gannon didn't even know he was going to 172 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: interview with the Cardinals. And I think that says a 173 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 1: lot that in the span of twenty four hours, you 174 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: coach in the Super Bowl, you lose the Super Bowl, 175 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: and then you end up saying and you have enough 176 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 1: passion and energy and smarts and knowledge within twenty four 177 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: hours you have such an incredible interview with Bidwell and 178 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 1: awesome for it that you end up getting the job. 179 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: I think that says a lot about Jonathan Gannon. And 180 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 1: then the second half of the Super Bowl obviously didn't 181 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 1: help things with relations with Eagles. Fans and so. And 182 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: it was interesting to hear that he actually watched the 183 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: film that night in his hotel room after Super Bowl 184 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: fifty seven. So you know the sort of investment he 185 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: has in what he's doing for a living. And by 186 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 1: the way, he said, he's never had a job his 187 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: entire life because football is fun to him. So that 188 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: and it's apparent the passion. I mean, when he was 189 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: coming into the building, you might have seen the video 190 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: easy Cardinals dot com, Cardinals Twitter, and he's coming in 191 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: and all the team employees are out there and he's 192 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: getting a round of applause and all that. And someone 193 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: next to me, he works on the business side, she said, 194 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm ready to go out on the 195 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 1: field right now. And I told I said, well, we'll 196 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: set up the blocking sled, you know, if you want 197 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: to work all some energy, we'll get the tackling dummies 198 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 1: out there, you know. So that's how infectious that personality is. 199 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: You know, Look, there's always going to be an uptick 200 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 1: in enthusiasm and excitement when the new coach comes in. 201 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: I mean, sure you're doing something wrong if there's not 202 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: that right, but he absolutely adds to it. And you 203 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: talk about players nodding along when they see He said 204 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: some of those early things in the press conference, I 205 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: noticed the end too. The last question was why why 206 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 1: do you love football? Why was football ended up being 207 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: your path? And he basically said, there's no There's nothing 208 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: else in the world except for maybe when you're children 209 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: are born. He didn't know that, So I just want 210 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: everybody to know there's nothing else in the world, like 211 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 1: running out of the tunnel. And I watched all those 212 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:25,559 Speaker 1: players in the front row because I was the row 213 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: behind them, and it wasn't super It wasn't like they 214 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: were really rocking there, but they're all kind of like 215 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: you could just all of them were. He gets it. 216 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: That makes sense if that's the message of being a 217 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: team player. And accountability was asked, that's something we have 218 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: heard from Awesome for it. Something we've heard from Bidwell 219 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: for the last five or six weeks throughout this coaching 220 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 1: and GM search was accountability and eating more of that 221 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: in the locker room throughout the entire building. And that 222 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: was something that Ganton touched on, was you're not just 223 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: gonna harp on your players when they're doing something that 224 00:10:57,800 --> 00:10:59,559 Speaker 1: needs to be corrected. He said, you're also going to 225 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: love on when they're doing something really well and know 226 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: that they're doing something really well. And I thought that 227 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: his answers were very honest. They didn't necessarily sound like 228 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: the cookie cutter answers when he was asked about accountability 229 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: and he was asked he was asked quite a few 230 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: number of questions about Kyler Murray, specifically with Kyler Murray 231 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: sitting in the front row, and from what we know 232 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: about Kyler, I'm sure he felt a little awkward. Maybe, 233 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: I'll be honest, I felt awkward a couple of times 234 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: when it's like, so, what are you gonna do with Kyler? Well, 235 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: this is what I'm gonna do with Kyler. And I 236 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,959 Speaker 1: actually on those questions, I actually was watching Kyler's face 237 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 1: and he did. Kyler did a great job of keeping 238 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: a pretty stone face. And do you know what, there 239 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,079 Speaker 1: were a good amount of players that were at the 240 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: press conference, which I thought was pretty cool to see. 241 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 1: It was Kyler Murray, James Connor, zach Ertz, DJ Humphries, 242 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: Will Hernandez, Byron Murphy was back. Yeah, Coult McCoy. I mean, 243 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: if you were a player and you were here, or 244 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: even if you weren't here. I think a couple of 245 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: players came for the press conference, which was nice. There 246 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: was there end up being a lot more. You know, 247 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 1: we right before we started this to all the people 248 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: in the front row and just off to the side, 249 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: like Colt, but Paul and jim O Mahundra were letting 250 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:07,439 Speaker 1: me know about the ones in the back like Byron 251 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: Murphy and Matt Prader because if you if you got 252 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 1: in there too late. Unfortunately Paul figured this out again. 253 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: There was a pre press conference, Joe, that's fair. We 254 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: just wanted to make sure you got to seat this time. 255 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: I was there though when he defined accountability, because you 256 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: mentioned that right and and he was. He was pretty 257 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: direct as to his expectation, and he said, in I quote, 258 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: you got to define what winning is and hold people 259 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: to that standard. He said, accountability doesn't have to be 260 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: a negative, it can be a positive. And the ultimate accountability, 261 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: according to Jonathan and comes down to not letting your 262 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 1: teammates down. And so it was interesting that when we 263 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 1: elaborate on that in the Big Red Rage, he cited 264 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni as being a real example of that. And 265 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: I watched through the Shane Steike in press conference in Indianapolis, 266 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 1: and one of my big takeaways was when he brought 267 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 1: up on his own Nick syr Ny and what an 268 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: amazing job Sirianni did in holding people accountable from day 269 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: one because someone asked him what was a key and 270 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: taking a four win team to the super Bowl in 271 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: two years and he sighted the accountability. Now, Howie Roseman 272 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 1: doing an unbeable job. Is stacking that roster doesn't hurt 273 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,439 Speaker 1: and Jalen Hurts evolving into one of the best quarterbacks 274 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,959 Speaker 1: in the league exactly, But that was all part of 275 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: the formula. And I like the fact that he was 276 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: there involved in taking a four win team where the 277 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: Cardinals are right now, a lot of parallels to what's 278 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: facing him now, what was facing that staff two years 279 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: ago in Philly. Speaking of Jalen Hurts and quarterbacks, Paul, 280 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: I think you should touch on the great answer that 281 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: Gannon had when you got a chance to talk with him, 282 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 1: because you asked him about Kyler Murray, because Bidwell and 283 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: Awesome for a Boat touched on something they liked in 284 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 1: their interview with Gannon was the plan he has for 285 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray and how to maximize his skill set in 286 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: his answer, and I don't have the quote right in 287 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 1: front of me, but just see big Red rage one 288 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: yet since he was sitting in that seat and Darren, 289 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: you put it in your article on easy Cardinals dot com, right, yeah, 290 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: and it was most of it of it, And I 291 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,079 Speaker 1: asked him, Yeah, I asked him about Kyler and just 292 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: because look, let's face it, there are a couple of 293 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: boxes he had to check. I believe when Michael bid 294 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: Willemonti asen Ford, accountability was one and the other had 295 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: to be Kyler Murray, your franchise quarterback. Are you on 296 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: board or not? And I asked him about what sort 297 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: of relationship he expects to have, especially he's a defensive 298 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: head coach, and he answered immediately and said, and I quote, 299 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: We're going to have a great relationship. He's a direct 300 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: reflection of me. That position is the player that's most 301 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: like a coach on the field, and when you have 302 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: to defend a player like that, it puts a defense 303 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: in conflict. You can't do everything you want to do 304 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: as a defense. Later we talked about trying to game 305 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: plan against Kyler Murray. What a legit prompt but a 306 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: direct reflection to me, what do you guys think he 307 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: meant by that? Well, now that now that I heard it. 308 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: When I first heard it, I thought, oh this is 309 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: this could be kind of intriguing if he sees Kyler 310 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: Murray is the same kind of competitor as he did 311 00:14:58,240 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: when I heard the quote. I think it has more 312 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: or to do with the fact that, as he said, 313 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: that's the quarterback is the coach on the field, he's 314 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: the one touching them. I think what he's saying is, 315 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: if I'm doing a good job as coach, the quarterback 316 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: is going to reflect that, And if the quarterback is 317 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: playing poorly, then that I'm not doing my job as coach, 318 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: and it won't really necessarily matter. This is how I 319 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: interpret it. It It won't necessarily matter that I'm a quote 320 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: unquote defensive coach, because we all know it starts with 321 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: the quarterback. And I think I do say I do 322 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: think that after listening to one of the many things 323 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: that I took out of this press conferences, there was 324 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:39,119 Speaker 1: a lot of praise from Jonathan Gannon about his quarterback, 325 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: and there needs to be. It's his first day on 326 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: the job and that's going to be his quarterback. So 327 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: God forbid. It was anything but that, and the quarterback 328 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: was in the front row, and that's true. But there 329 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: was praise and he said the things that needed to 330 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: be said. And yet, like I said earlier, when he 331 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: was asked, when I asked him, actually I think I 332 00:15:58,320 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: was the one who asked the question about the offense 333 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: and his coordinator and the philosophy. And he basically says, 334 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: I know what I want on the offense, and that's 335 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: whoever is going to be the coordinator is going to 336 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: run it in that through that prism. It's almost like 337 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: he's going to reverse engineer the OC higher because he 338 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: has a vision for what he wants an offense. And 339 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: we talked a little bit about that in Big Red Rage. 340 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: In fact, he went on with Wolf and he said 341 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: that we're going to quote live in eleven, twelve and 342 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: thirteen personnel. That's what he did. Reveal a little bit 343 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: deeper into what the Cardinals offensive identity might look like. 344 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: So we'll see who exactly the offensive coordinator is. But 345 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: you know something else I was thinking as it was unfolding, 346 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: and he had a lot of praise for Kyler, and yeah, 347 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: Kyler was ert C. But remember what Mike McDaniel did 348 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: with Tua in Miami. Yeah, he had to restore his confidence. 349 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: That's a good call. And Kyler had a down year 350 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: until he got hurt. He was not having the same 351 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: caliber season he had the year before. In fact, you 352 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: could look at the last month obviously plus of twenty 353 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: twenty one and then all the two twenty two he 354 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: was not the same quarterback that he was over the 355 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: first two thirds of twenty twenty one when he's a 356 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: legit MVP candidate. So maybe this was day one, step 357 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 1: one of trying to restore some confidence and Kyler Murray 358 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 1: McDaniel went to the point where he had the interns 359 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 1: of video department put together a massive highlight reel of 360 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 1: all A TWA's best place, high school, college, and pro 361 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 1: just to say, Okay, you've been there and done that, 362 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: you're fully capable of doing it again. So I thought 363 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: that was intriguing, And yeah, that's where I guess his 364 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: job starts in a lot of ways. At the same time, 365 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: you're not gonna have Kyler on the field for how 366 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 1: many weeks, months, you don't know. Yeah, that's the hard part, 367 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: and those are the questions that are going to be 368 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: answered hopefully soon as or just a few weeks away 369 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: from the Combine and Indie. And while there's a good 370 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:51,719 Speaker 1: chance you won't have your full staff, you know, hired, 371 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 1: by then, you will probably have a pretty good idea 372 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: of what kind of players you are looking for and 373 00:17:58,080 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 1: an idea of what you want to do with the 374 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: third overall picking the draft, and Gannon talked about free 375 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 1: agency and making sure that they are taking all the 376 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:10,679 Speaker 1: necessary steps to maximize Kyler Murray and this offense. And 377 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: so I think that once you get the offensive coordinator 378 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 1: or you have an idea of what you want, you 379 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: can start looking at the pieces you have. Because we've 380 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: talked about Cummarch, you have a lot of your offensive line, 381 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: most of your offensive line. Our decisions are going to 382 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: have to be made, whether that's by them with retirement 383 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 1: or by this front office of if you're going to 384 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: sign someone and bring them back. There are a lot 385 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: of decisions that are going to have to be made. 386 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: And then on defense, what was interesting was when Gannon 387 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: was asked if he's planning on calling the defense, He 388 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: doesn't know yet. It depends on how this coaching staff 389 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: shakes out, which I think I like of not necessarily 390 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:47,880 Speaker 1: going in of yes or no. I really do think 391 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: that depends on the personnel that you have, and so 392 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 1: I think that makes sense, and it makes sense with 393 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 1: what Gannon has said about a scheme, which is not 394 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: necessarily having one, but going back to that adaptability of 395 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 1: who do you have available that week, where you playing 396 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 1: that week, and kind of using the players you have 397 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: the best way you can and kind of adjusting each week. 398 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 1: It was interesting to me about the play calling because 399 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:11,199 Speaker 1: he said one of the reasons he's looking at it 400 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: that way is because that's how Nick Sirianni approached it 401 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: when he got the Philadelphia job. Nick Sirianni was a 402 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,360 Speaker 1: play caller when he got that job, but he ended 403 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: up letting Shane Steiken do it because Nick Sirianni wanted 404 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: to make sure that he could oversee things and he 405 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: felt like it was better for him to not have 406 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,239 Speaker 1: the play calls, which I know was always a thing 407 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 1: with Cliff Kingsbury. And it's interesting even as we record 408 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: this today, the day that Jonathan Gannon had his press conference, 409 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: that Nick Sirianni had his end of the year press conference, 410 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: and he told the media again, whoever I hire his 411 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: offense coordinators going to call plays because I prefer to 412 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:48,640 Speaker 1: do it this way, so I'll be curious to see. 413 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: I could totally see Jonathan Gannon being the guy who's 414 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: more of an oversee guy and letting somebody else play 415 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: do the defensive play calling. And in fact, I know 416 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 1: one of the names Howard Balls loaded out there as 417 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: a potential as being on the staff at some way, 418 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:08,679 Speaker 1: shape or form is Mike Zimmer, whom Gannon worked for 419 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: in Minnesota, so that would be quite I don't know 420 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 1: if he would necessarily be the playgoller, but Mike, you 421 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 1: talk about a guy who's got experienced calling defenses, yep, 422 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: and he would be that former longtime head coach he 423 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,199 Speaker 1: could rely on. He would have that guy in his 424 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 1: staff as a first time head coach, where they are 425 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: inevitably going to be things that come across your desk 426 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 1: that you're going to encounter. Oh boy, I haven't been here. 427 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: What do you think about this? And Cliff Kingsbury had 428 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: that in Advanced Joseph so and by the way, Vance 429 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 1: Joseph reportedly is interviewing in Denver and in Philly for 430 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: those defensive coordinator jobs. So we'll see what comes to 431 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: that as of this recording. But as for the not 432 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,360 Speaker 1: having a set scheme or a single scheme that he's 433 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 1: married to all the time, Gannon did say on the 434 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 1: radio side that it is just part of his bigger 435 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: overall philosophy, that it's not my way or the highway. 436 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: In his words, that he's not the always done it 437 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: this way type of guy. So we're gonna do it 438 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: this way. He said, If that's your mindset in today's NFL, 439 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: you will die. That's what it's And that's where it 440 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: gets back to the adaptability adapt or die in the NFL, 441 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 1: because inevitably you're gonna get figured out. You can't be 442 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 1: that predictable. He also had an industry in comment on 443 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 1: the offensive side in NFL Network where he answered what 444 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: sort of style you're gonna run? He said, well, we're 445 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 1: gonna throw it over people's heads and we're gonna run 446 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 1: it down people's throats. Oh, that's a great line. We're 447 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: gonna throw it over people's head line and we're gonna 448 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 1: run it down people's throats. I will say that the 449 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: space between the comment and then the execution of such 450 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 1: thing as is fairly large. I would never do that well. 451 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 1: His counterpart, Shane Steger in Indiapolis. His line was, we're 452 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 1: gonna throw it to score points, We're gonna run it 453 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: to win games. So they both had pretty good one 454 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 1: liners when it comes to offensive philosophy, and apparently Gannon 455 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:58,640 Speaker 1: has a couple of those one liners. It's we heard 456 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:02,439 Speaker 1: let it rip, buckle up. Supposedly we're gonna hear a 457 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,479 Speaker 1: lot more of what we've been told are called. So 458 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 1: you know what, you can start getting rid of the 459 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: pauly pencil neck bingo card and start formulating a new 460 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: bingo card over their effective immediately with the new head 461 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: coach and some of his new saints, well, if you 462 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 1: say one thing in particular, it will be time for 463 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,360 Speaker 1: a new Beingo card, because I will have bingo Paul. 464 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 1: So come on, I'm gonna I am gonna get home 465 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: tonight at Cossa Calvici and as they go for their 466 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 1: bingo card, not on, I'm gonna say to the kids, Okay, 467 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 1: did we get better today? Who got better today? That's 468 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 1: that's gonna be the dad. Wait you didn't already do 469 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: that with your kids, I'm gonna add that to the arsenal. 470 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 1: Are you going to make sure that Jonathan Gannon can 471 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 1: see the lines that aren't really lines with the different 472 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: colored bricks and the parking lot here at the facility. Wait, 473 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 1: he's he's behind the he's behind the faces parks a 474 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: different place than we do. He's above and behind. We 475 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: got in a sign reserve spot behind the gate, so 476 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:59,360 Speaker 1: it's a totally different tax bracketing Paully parking spot. Put 477 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: it that way. That's what else stood out about this. 478 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: You know what I didn't ask him, and I had 479 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: about ten questions I couldn't get to on the big 480 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: red rage. I wanted to ask him what sort of 481 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: training camp he's going to run. Nobody asked him that right, Well, 482 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: but you know, we had a long time to get 483 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: to that. It did seem like it was going to 484 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: be more intense because when he was talking about his 485 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 1: energy and his passion and saying that he's going to 486 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: bring this every day, and when it becomes that third 487 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: week of training camp and everyone else is tired, you're 488 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 1: still going to get that saying Jonathan Gannon that we 489 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: were seeing today, which tells me, Okay, if it's a 490 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: third week of training camp and everyone's feeling tired like Okay, 491 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 1: let's let's have a hard training camp. Ye. I mean, 492 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: I could be reaching, but that's what I made of it. 493 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: Let's face it, anything's going to be more physical and 494 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: more taxing than last year's training camp. And a lot 495 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,239 Speaker 1: of that had to do with injuries, I get it. 496 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: And then they got so injured they didn't want to 497 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: risk getting injured further, and then it became even lighter. 498 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: So but I mean, at least in that regard. What 499 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 1: else stood out to you about the press conference? I mean, 500 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 1: you know, I just just the way he handled himself, 501 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: just the confidence that he presented. He didn't seem flummixed 502 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 1: or befuddled by any of the questions as the first 503 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: time head coach. You can see where you know what else, 504 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 1: Here's something that jumped out to me when he said 505 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: he disagreed with monte Asenford in the interview about something 506 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: and then I tried to drill a little deeper on 507 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: that in the Big Red Rage as it wasn't on 508 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 1: the roster, and he laughed said, oh yeah, the roster too. 509 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, So there was more than one item 510 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 1: that they had a good natured, healthy debate about. But 511 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: I like that. I mean, if manti asen Ford is 512 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,679 Speaker 1: of the opinion, and what he told the media was 513 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 1: that it's the lifeblood of any organization, that relation between 514 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: the head coach and the GM. You have to have 515 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 1: complete organizational alignment, I think, is what he called it. 516 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: I like that. I like the fact that the two 517 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 1: of them already are at a point in the relationship. 518 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: They've known each other long enough they go, you know what, 519 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: maybe you need to think of it in this manner 520 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 1: and approach it from that angle. And that's a good 521 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: point the relationship. Going back to last summer when Monty 522 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: awesome Fort was still in Tennessee, he had not been 523 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: hired as a general manager APP but was doing his 524 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: own research, his own preparation for that for his future, 525 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 1: and he had a list of people he wanted to 526 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,360 Speaker 1: get to know more and their philosophies and how they 527 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: go about their day to day business. And Jonathan Gannon 528 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,880 Speaker 1: was one of those people, and so they met briefly 529 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: last summer, and so when you start going through that 530 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: coaching search, that was a name that was already on 531 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:28,120 Speaker 1: awesome Fort's mind. The unfortunate part is the timing of everything, 532 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: and so by the time that awesome Fort was hired 533 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 1: by the Cardinals, that window had closed, so you couldn't 534 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: interview Gannon. And then, like we talked about, he was interviewed, 535 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: didn't even know what was happening till after the super Bowl. Yeah, 536 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 1: the timing thing is very it is very interesting to me. 537 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 1: But knowing that there was a previous there's a lot 538 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:52,199 Speaker 1: of people out there when I tweeted out that Gannon 539 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: didn't know he was going to be interviewing with the 540 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: Cardinals until Howry Roseman talked to him after the super 541 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 1: Bowl was over, and they're like, yeah, right, sure that 542 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 1: was out there. I can buy it. I'm not saying 543 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 1: that nobody knew Gannon was going to talk about but 544 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: I could buy that he didn't know necessarily because Austin 545 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 1: Ford was able to have that prior discussion. And it 546 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 1: made me think, quite frankly, after spending a week at 547 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and attending the Fritz Pollard luncheon were 548 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 1: they're the focus is trying to get more blackhead coaches, 549 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 1: it just it made me think of how important it 550 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 1: is to have the people that are making decisions on 551 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: who the coaches are going to be to have prior relationships. 552 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 1: I mean, one of the things Austin Ford said was 553 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: the previous year when he before twenty twenty two, when 554 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: he interviewed for a couple of jobs, they asked him, Okay, 555 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: if you come in here, who would you want to interview? 556 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,959 Speaker 1: Fred coach? And he was saying, I had these names, 557 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,120 Speaker 1: and I realized I really didn't know them, and that's 558 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: why he decided to go back out and get to 559 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: know these people. And it does make a difference. And 560 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: I do think that Jonathan Gannon, as we all found 561 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: out today, as slowly, can make that kind of impression 562 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: on you in one interview, in one day. And but 563 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: if Montie Asenford already had the background, plus you saw 564 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: what he had done on the field, and then he 565 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: comes in and Montie Astaford sees again what he saw before, 566 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: I could see very easily why that would be able 567 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: to convince Michael Bidwell that this was the right choice. 568 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: So when Jonathan Gannon addresses pretty early in the press 569 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 1: conference the entire media contingent and says, guess what, We're 570 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,120 Speaker 1: gonna win games, and don't get it twisted, We're going 571 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,679 Speaker 1: to win that was that was a pretty you know 572 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:39,399 Speaker 1: bold statement, it really, but it didn't come off as 573 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: as canned or like you know, like a Lane Kiffin 574 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: back in the day with the Raiders or Rex Ryan, 575 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: you know, one of these. Yeah, buddy, you know you 576 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: got a winner in tax exactly. You know it was 577 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:51,959 Speaker 1: it was. It was a pre meditated I didn't come 578 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: off to me that way. It was just sort of 579 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,239 Speaker 1: the conclusion of a thought, and I think it was 580 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: a little window into his personality that he that's sort 581 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 1: of confidence. I am. There's always a fine line between 582 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: confidence and cockiness and all that stuff. But if you're 583 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: the I don't if I'm the head coach, especially in 584 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: my first day, I don't give a flying fig if 585 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: you don't those in the outside don't believe what I'm saying. 586 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: The important part is that those on the inside believe 587 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 1: that we're saying. And I one and I go. I 588 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: believe this with all coaches, but I one hundred percent 589 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: believe that Jonathan Gannon believes that he's going to come 590 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,199 Speaker 1: in and he's eventually going to turn this around and 591 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: they're going to win a lot of games and potentially 592 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: win a title. I absolutely because anybody on that level 593 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: thinks that they better be right well. And his quote 594 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: was at another point in the press garments about the 595 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: noise that's been out there both in Philly and the 596 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: main part of this process. He said, Hey, I don't 597 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: care about other people's opinions. I really don't other than 598 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: the people I'm working for and working with. That was 599 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 1: also very believable. He was very convincing when he said that. 600 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 1: And let's face it, he's coming from Philly. He probably 601 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: needed he needed to have that sort of demeanor, right, 602 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:14,959 Speaker 1: that's sort of indefensible, you know, guard around him just 603 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 1: to deal with Eagles Nations as we saw after the 604 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. I don't know him personally. I enjoyed my 605 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: interactions with him today. I was able to read that 606 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: very good Cleveland Plain Dealer story about him growing up 607 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 1: and what struck me about him. And they talk a 608 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: lot about how his high school athletic exploits and how 609 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: good he was. And I saw a couple of pictures 610 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: and I'm thinking to myself, that's the kid in high 611 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 1: school that if you're at an opposing high school, you're 612 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 1: sitting in that student section saying stuff that eventually the 613 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 1: security guard comes over and says, guys, you're gonna get 614 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 1: We're gonna throw you out of the gym if you 615 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: keep yelling that stuff. But you do because you're sixteen 616 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: years old and you're an idiot. But he's the one 617 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: you're going after, and he's the one egging everybody on 618 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: in the other gym. That's that's what Jonathan Gannon reminds 619 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: me of. You want him on your side. When he's 620 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,479 Speaker 1: not on your side, you don't like him all that much. 621 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: Guess what, he was a point guard in a state 622 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: championship high school basketball team, so you can imagine some 623 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: of those Package and Ohio high school athletics getting pretty serious. 624 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: Hopeless he ever hears this, he takes that the right way. 625 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: But I'm my guess, as he would. You think he's 626 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: going to get any use of the mini basketball hoop 627 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: in the locker room that was gone by the end 628 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: of the year. It was four square, Danny, remember the square? 629 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 1: It was like elementary school at that point. You know, 630 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: my bad, somebody must have hung on the right broken. 631 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: That didn't feel like a very genuine my bad there, Danny. 632 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 1: It wasn't good job Darren Way to pick up on 633 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: social cues. So how was he in the TV studio, Danny, 634 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: it was good. I mean, he just sort of who 635 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: said it earlier and I totally agree. It's not like 636 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: he flipped a switch and changed demeanor once he got 637 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: in front of the camera. He was the same person 638 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: in front of her behind the camera, whether the red 639 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: light was on or off. No, he was great in 640 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: the studio. I thought that he was again very genuine. 641 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: He seemed very calm, didn't seem nervous or you know, 642 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: anything like that with the questions I was asking him, 643 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: which was great. So hopefully we're going to get a 644 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 1: lot more one on ones with him on a consistent 645 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 1: basis because he was really great. We got some stuff 646 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: for our social content. So if you have TikTok looking 647 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: at the two of you, Twitter, Instagram, all that stuff, 648 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: he's going to be all over our social channels. So yeah, 649 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: check your TikTok, Paul. The one story I'll leave you 650 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 1: with this and then my work here is done. The 651 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: one story I got a reaction from him on was 652 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 1: when we've been going to Cleveland for the last twenty 653 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: years here and there a Cardinals road trips. We go 654 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: to Johnny's on Fulton Old Italian Place, right straight out 655 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: of Good Fellows. In fact, the last time we were there, 656 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: the waiter was a dead ringer for Joe Peshi, both 657 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 1: in size and the voice. And we asked, what's good 658 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: on the menu today, and he said, well, my aunt 659 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: just made all the Joki. What do you mean she 660 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: made him? Yeah, she made him at home and brought 661 00:31:56,160 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 1: him over. Okay, I'll have that, oh mad jokiminal across 662 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 1: the street from Johnny's unfolding and down about half a 663 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: block Saint Rocco's Catholic Church where he was married. I 664 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 1: brought that up. He immediately lit up and said, all 665 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 1: three of our kids were baptized there. He said, have 666 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: you asked Gina about that, as if I had met 667 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 1: his wife yet, who which I haven't. I said no, 668 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: but I'll bring that up with Gina later. Saint Roccos, 669 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 1: he said, all our families from that area, So it 670 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: was good. That's Good's good, small world in that regard. 671 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: But he does have that you can see where he 672 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 1: has the ability to walk up on any player that 673 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 1: personalities and the ability to interact and then hopefully motivate 674 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: and then ultimately hold him accountable. Because that's where a 675 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: lot of this starts if you want to listen to 676 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 1: those on the inside as to where things might have 677 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 1: really gone sideways last year. Everyone needs to be held accountable. 678 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 1: And I don't think, you know, we dismiss that he 679 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: said that ultimate accountability is to your teammate and that 680 00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 1: he was taught at a very young age it's not 681 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: about you, it's about the team. And so all these 682 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: things combined. You can see how he checked box by 683 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 1: box by box during that interview process and how he 684 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 1: was deemed the best fit. That was my ultimate takeaway. Okay, 685 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 1: I can see now how he was they declared him 686 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 1: the winner in the interview process. It's early, I mean, 687 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: we don't there's a lot to go through. He as 688 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: Danny noted that, you know, we don't know how quickly 689 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 1: this coaching staff is going to come together, and it 690 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: probably won't all be together by the time we go 691 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: to the Combine in ten days or whatever it is. 692 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 1: There's roster building that has to go come down, there's 693 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 1: injuries that still have to be rehabbed. There's so much 694 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: that still needs to be done. But as we sit here, 695 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: as he's now in place and you have a coach, 696 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 1: he makes you feel pretty good and we'll see where 697 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: that goes. You know, I know there's lots of fans 698 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 1: out there who feel burned multiple times, and I don't 699 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 1: blame you. One of the questions in the upcoming mail 700 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: bag was Jonathan gannon, I don't know how to feel. 701 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 1: Tell me how to feel, which I don't do. Everybody's 702 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 1: got a feeling. Is a very personal decision, so you 703 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: got to feel how you're gonna feel. I will say 704 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 1: that after meeting him, I feel pretty good, but that's 705 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,720 Speaker 1: just me. Yeah. But how do you feel about Kevin Durant? 706 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 1: Feel pretty good about Kevin Durant? Too cool? How do 707 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:27,320 Speaker 1: you feel about forty five points in a NETS uniform 708 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:33,240 Speaker 1: by Bridges? Cost of doing business? Oh boy? Hello? Okay, 709 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 1: exciting times in the valley? Good much? All right, there 710 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 1: you go. That's Cardinals Underground, brought to you by Pacific 711 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 1: Office Automation