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Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome to another episode of Club Sha Shay. I

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Speaker 1: am your host, Shannon Sharp. I'm also the proproud of

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Speaker 1: Club Shasha. The guy that's stopping by for conversation and

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Speaker 1: to drink today, is a certified Golden platinum selling artist,

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Speaker 1: Billboard chart topping, Grammy nominated for his like Lean Back,

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Speaker 1: Make It Ring All the Way Up. He's a rapper, producer, executive, philanthropist,

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Speaker 1: and a cultural icon, the one, the only. Some call

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Speaker 1: him Joe Crack, but we know him miss Fat Joe.

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Speaker 2: Joe. What do you do?

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Speaker 3: Man? I love your thanks. You want an introduction? Yes,

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Speaker 3: I am Fat Joseph, and I'm.

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Speaker 2: Proud of it. No you're not.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm proud of and I'm done. Comes again himself too,

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Speaker 3: if you want it.

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Speaker 2: Where is Joe? Well, oh you.

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Speaker 3: Mean fact Joe. He's he's yeah, he's off playing call

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Speaker 3: him Juju Black Home six. So I'm his rapper replacement.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, rapper replacement. Just lean back.

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Speaker 3: Come on showing lean back. You look a little Tennis

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Speaker 3: on dance. I just put up my pants and do

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Speaker 3: the ruck away. You gotta lean back, Shannon, See.

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Speaker 2: Jake, is this some kind of Joe. Where where is

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Speaker 2: Joe Shannon?

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Speaker 3: If you can't lean back, maybe we could throw one back.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna pass up an opportunity to have a

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Speaker 2: drinke though.

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Speaker 3: Okay, just you and me?

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Speaker 2: What is this.

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Speaker 3: Petroleum?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Up? Man? What's the Terror squad?

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Speaker 3: People think it's terror like terror. No, it's terror, it's

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Speaker 3: Mother Earth.

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Speaker 4: Easy piec.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Well, since you're here, you fan Joe? Who is your

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Speaker 1: favorite rapper?

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Speaker 2: You work with ice Cube?

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Speaker 3: I adore ice Cube in any way of shape or form,

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Speaker 3: even in white wine.

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Speaker 2: When you were riding lean back? What how did you

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Speaker 2: come up with that?

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Speaker 3: I just leaned back like this. It just came, you know,

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Speaker 3: just came.

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Speaker 2: What about what's love?

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Speaker 3: Take my hand?

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Speaker 2: Just feel?

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Speaker 3: That's what love is all about?

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Speaker 2: Interesting? Yeah, I'm not sure that's it, but okay, I.

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Speaker 3: Just want to become friends with you. That's why I'm here.

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Speaker 2: That's not possible.

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Speaker 3: I am fat Joe.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that concludes this interview.

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Speaker 4: Where you're going now?

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Speaker 3: I started liking this. I think let's get the real fact.

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Speaker 3: Joe here interviewing me.

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Speaker 2: Okay, guys, let's try this again.

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Speaker 1: I think fat Joe is from playing Call of Duty,

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Speaker 1: Black Ops six, So Here We Go. He's a multi

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Speaker 1: platinum selling rapper. He's had hits records in three different

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Speaker 1: decades in New York. Legend, one of the Kings of

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Speaker 1: New York, a cultural icon, Grammy nominative Mega Rap Stars.

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Speaker 1: He's behind two of the biggest most respected anthems, Lean

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Speaker 1: Back and All the Way Up. He's one of the

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Speaker 1: rap industry's first Latino superstars. He sold million direcords. A

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Speaker 1: highly respected rapper, songwriter, producer, artist, host, actor, author, media personality,

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Speaker 1: A successful executive, entrepreneur and philanthropist. He's also a healthcare

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Speaker 1: price transparency reform advocate. He's a larger than life persona,

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Speaker 1: one of the rap music most influential artists. One of

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Speaker 1: hip hop's greatest storytellers. You know him as Joe Krack,

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Speaker 1: but here he is, Ladies and gentlemen, Fat Joe.

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Speaker 5: Thank you so much, My brother, All my life, grinding

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Speaker 5: all my life, sacrifice, hustle back, prison, one slice, gottor

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Speaker 5: broisat all my life. I grinding all my life, all

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Speaker 5: my life and grinning all.

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Speaker 2: My sacris price one slice.

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Speaker 5: Doctor Brother, all my life, Poppy ground in all my.

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Speaker 1: Life Today We're at Alley Lounge on sixty six at

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Speaker 1: Resource World, Las Vegas.

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Speaker 2: Did I do Damn?

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Speaker 4: I just I just wanted to be like Snoop Dog.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You know, let me telling me.

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Speaker 6: I look at the bar, the TV commercials, I see

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Speaker 6: Snoop Dog and he sketches out. He's the football guy,

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Speaker 6: he's the voice.

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Speaker 2: That's all.

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to be a Snoop Dog.

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Speaker 1: Bro your career, I mean when you growing up, when

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Speaker 1: Bad Joe was growing up, I thank you're from the Bronx, right,

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Speaker 1: You're from the Bronx.

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Speaker 2: When you were growing up as a kid, what did

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Speaker 2: Bad Joe want to be?

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Speaker 4: I just wanted to be rich. Now I'm telling you

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Speaker 4: the truth.

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Speaker 6: I ain't want to be poor, right, and my whole

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Speaker 6: family before me was poor, and our community.

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Speaker 4: I like to tell the youth to google this, you know.

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Speaker 6: Really he looked like the Bronx was in war, like

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Speaker 6: Ukraine or something like that.

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Speaker 2: That's what we grew up at.

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Speaker 6: And I remember telling my man's like, yo, this poor

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Speaker 6: shit ain't for me, and they didn't understand it because

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Speaker 6: all he was was poor. So I'm like twelve years

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Speaker 6: old talking about Yo, I gotta get to the bag.

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Speaker 6: I gotta I gotta get it. And so that's that.

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Speaker 6: I think that's what Fat Joe was even since a kid.

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Speaker 6: He was just a hustler, always ready to go get

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Speaker 6: the money.

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Speaker 1: You tell the story I read where you were like

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Speaker 1: bullied as a kid, and one time you were getting

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Speaker 1: bullied and you was getting jumped and your homeboy, who's

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Speaker 1: with you?

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Speaker 2: Because he didn't want to get jumped. He joked in

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Speaker 2: with them and beat you there.

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Speaker 6: Well, they told him, they said, yo, what you're doing

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Speaker 6: with this kid? So what happens is I grew up

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Speaker 6: in the ninety percent black neighborhood. Okay, right, So my

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Speaker 6: mother was there forty years before me, So when I

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Speaker 6: grew up, I never saw racism. I was just little

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Speaker 6: Joey from the block. Right then I got thrown out

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Speaker 6: him junior high school. So they put me in my

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Speaker 6: grandmother's neighborhood. There was ninety nine point nine percent black,

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Speaker 6: but they never seen a Spanish guy like me.

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Speaker 4: So I'm walking up in there, Joey Krack, I'm the

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Speaker 4: same guy.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 4: They're like, oh, we're not trying to play this shit around,

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Speaker 4: and we never seen one of these right right, And

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Speaker 4: so every day I.

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Speaker 6: Had to fight twenty guys. And then my best friend,

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Speaker 6: he was black, his name was Leonard. My mom's cooked

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Speaker 6: for him every day, take care of him. And one

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Speaker 6: day they came up to him and they was like, yo,

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Speaker 6: why you beat with the Puerto Rican dude? And he's like,

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Speaker 6: that's my friend. And they said, well, if you don't

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Speaker 6: beat him up today with us, we gonna beat your

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Speaker 6: ass like we beat him every day. And he jumped me.

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Speaker 6: And that that moment right there changed my whole life.

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Speaker 6: That was the birth of Joey Krack. It was no

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Speaker 6: longer fat Joey. It was like, all right, I don't

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Speaker 6: care about nobody, Like I'm ready to go to war

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Speaker 6: with every human being. My heart just turned black. Like

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Speaker 6: it was like I'm giving it to everybody. And that's

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Speaker 6: where the legend of Joey Krack began.

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Speaker 1: Did you guys remain friend? Did you understand? Did you

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Speaker 1: understand the situation?

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 4: I cried for like ten hours. I had a black

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Speaker 4: hoodie on, black jeans and black chuck of Thames and

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Speaker 4: I just kept trying this and I was crying like

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Speaker 4: I don't give a fuck about nobody. I'm gonna punish

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Speaker 4: every body.

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Speaker 2: It was over.

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Speaker 6: Like from that point on, you don't start robbing people.

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Speaker 6: I started wilding. I create the terror squad that you know.

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Speaker 6: That's that's where all lot went into play.

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Speaker 2: So that was the birth of joe Krat. Joey Krast

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Speaker 2: that that way, it was that.

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Speaker 6: Moment that was a defining moment of my life. It

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Speaker 6: was it was really sad. You know, I have your

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Speaker 6: best friend beat you up with the guys that used

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Speaker 6: to bully you. That was hard for me.

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Speaker 1: You were shot, you were shot at you remember do

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Speaker 1: you remember those moments?

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Speaker 6: Oh my god, I've been shot at like thirty So

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Speaker 6: I was a problem. Like I was like a giant problem.

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Speaker 2: Like you know.

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Speaker 4: It was like every day I came out of my

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Speaker 4: house to fight three different guys.

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Speaker 2: Every day. It was it was just we was.

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Speaker 6: Wilding and so guys, you know, they wanted to kill me,

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Speaker 6: you know what I mean. So they shot at me

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Speaker 6: maybe thirty forty times. And one time I'm in a

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Speaker 6: rental car. We were about to go retaliate and the

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Speaker 6: eight times in two days. He looked like the movie

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Speaker 6: Marked for Death. Ecuadorian kid.

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Speaker 4: He just was.

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Speaker 6: Coming at me, kept going, kept going, kept going. So

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Speaker 6: we in a rental car ready to go get him.

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Speaker 6: They shoot up the whole rental car, me and my

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Speaker 6: guy Torn Duck. I heard the death of Fat Joe

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Speaker 6: because the people in front of my building.

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Speaker 2: All the old ladies, was like, oh my God, I

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Speaker 2: don't want Yoe. They killed yo.

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Speaker 4: Y'oll y'all like wow, and we peek up like.

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Speaker 2: Just broke glasses.

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Speaker 6: So that's why God is so real, Shannon, because so

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Speaker 6: many times in my life. One time I robbed these

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Speaker 6: Dominican dudes and they came back the next day. I

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Speaker 6: was walking with a girl with no gun.

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Speaker 4: They jump out.

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Speaker 6: None of them were guns, all kind of sizes. So

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Speaker 6: they jump on me. They're ready to kill me. I

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Speaker 6: deserve it. I just stuck them up yesterday. Right then,

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Speaker 6: my guy, my brother Opie, who is the biggest guy

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Speaker 6: they respected him. He was like, yo, that's my brother.

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Speaker 6: They was like yo, this guy. Opie was like yo,

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Speaker 6: give him a pass. They give him a pass. That's

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Speaker 6: why I know about divine intervention. That's why I know

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Speaker 6: God spared my life so I could do the kind

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Speaker 6: of things I do now when you say healthcare price transparency,

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Speaker 6: or philanthropy, or giving back to my community, or opening

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Speaker 6: businesses in my community, single parent mothers buying homes because

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Speaker 6: we give them the opportunity.

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Speaker 4: So for me, I just give it all all glory.

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Speaker 6: To God for sparing my life to get to this

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Speaker 6: point and work and spread his message through a real one.

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Speaker 2: But that didn't stop you.

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Speaker 1: Even though your boy interve is, hey give him a path,

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Speaker 1: give grace, that wasn't enough to stop you in that moment,

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Speaker 1: because Joe, you said, you guys shot at thirty seven

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Speaker 1: forty times. You like they say a cat has nine lives,

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Speaker 1: You like.

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Speaker 2: The orange cat.

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Speaker 6: He's a bully on the block, and Kate nothing to

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Speaker 6: get rid of it now you can't. And we were

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Speaker 6: really really strong too, So I had a bunch of

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Speaker 6: strong guys with me too, who just they held the

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Speaker 6: fort down like something else you know, Uh yeah, you know.

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Speaker 6: Hip hop music saved my life pretty much. Diamond D

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Speaker 6: digging in the Crates Crew. They came out from my

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Speaker 6: neighborhood that Lord Fin that showed me it was possible.

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Speaker 4: Un Fortunately it was.

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Speaker 1: But you did never think did you ever go to

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Speaker 4: I had the cops on beat.

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Speaker 2: It was like yo.

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Speaker 4: And but my community loved me. They love Fat Joey,

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Speaker 6: But nah, you know, it was in adrenaline that I

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Speaker 6: Changed on Me.

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Speaker 6: And so I feel like I'm the last ungentrified rapper,

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Speaker 4: They looking like Yo, this guy bugging out, like what

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Speaker 4: and so you got to be careful, especially when you're

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Speaker 1: Right when you look at situations, you look at Tupac, Biggie, Nipsey, Hustle,

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Speaker 6: That's a bigger issue, man, It's it's what we call

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Speaker 6: Do you think how diabolical you got to be to

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Speaker 4: I always love that bar that.

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Speaker 6: Jay Z said, if we for we bet each other's crutches,

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Speaker 4: We need something to somebody that can actually help us.

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Speaker 6: If you the only guy winning, nobody can help you

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Speaker 6: The same mentality from the hood trickles down into hip hop,

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Speaker 6: you know, where a kid And then I don't know

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Speaker 6: Michael Rubin went Virudavi day for saying some things that

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Speaker 4: What's up?

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Speaker 6: And so we as a community, blacks and Latinos have

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Speaker 6: Where we embrace each other, we love each other, and

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Speaker 6: I hit it quick and be like, no, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 4: I do that all the.

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Speaker 2: Time, Joe.

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Speaker 1: It seemed like sometimes that we want us to win

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Speaker 6: You know smart guys. I know guys that have won.

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Speaker 6: They're understood that not showing. See, we got two different

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Speaker 6: But I'll try to let all a little black and

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Speaker 6: and then some people take it as you just bragging

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Speaker 4: You know how much money Common got.

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Speaker 6: Common Common took me to Chicago in nineteen ninety three

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Speaker 4: He but they got a lot of money, right. You know,

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Speaker 2: You ain't rob nobody for it.

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Speaker 4: Enjoy yourself, you know, and make sure your family got

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Speaker 2: You know. It's crazy, right.

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Speaker 6: Friend of mine, she's Jewish, she went to synagogue on

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Speaker 6: He said, your brother, So he said whoa. He is

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Speaker 6: To me, that story hits because it goes we all

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Speaker 6: Joe tell you he did that, but he'll tell you

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Speaker 4: That ain't it.

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Speaker 2: Don't make the mistakes that I made. Don't make the

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Speaker 1: Sometimes I feel like like and correct me if I'm wrong.

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Speaker 1: better than me, or he thinks he's better than me.

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00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,640
Speaker 1: And I don't want people to think that. Because I've

444
00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,240
Speaker 1: been able to make it. Now, I gotta suppress. What

445
00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:30,920
Speaker 1: I want to do for myself or what I want

446
00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,880
Speaker 1: to do for my family is to not tick off

447
00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:35,959
Speaker 1: someone because I might have.

448
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:37,720
Speaker 2: If they don't, I don't do that.

449
00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 4: I don't do that.

450
00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:43,640
Speaker 6: If you wanted you tooke me, Okay, if I want

451
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,000
Speaker 6: that car, get it. I want that watch, I get it.

452
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,920
Speaker 6: My daughter eighteen, she got a man truck. My wife

453
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,880
Speaker 6: get whatever she wants, my family get anybody I love,

454
00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,200
Speaker 6: get whatever they want. You see, I employed every single

455
00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,480
Speaker 6: one of my friends that ever wanted to work. So

456
00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:01,679
Speaker 6: if you go on my stores, you almost look like

457
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:05,720
Speaker 6: they trapping out the sneaky stores. They got Ben's trucks,

458
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 6: Rolexis they live. All my friends that actually want to work.

459
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,159
Speaker 6: You know, you come from where I come from. You

460
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,680
Speaker 6: got some friends that don't want to work. Correct those guys.

461
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 6: We can't get free money too. That does not happen.

462
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:21,760
Speaker 6: Fad Joe is unextortable, meaning you cannot extort me.

463
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:23,440
Speaker 4: I'd rather die.

464
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 6: Before you extort me. But if you're a friend that

465
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 6: wants to work, all my friends are working. But they work.

466
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,160
Speaker 6: They know they got to run the store. This guy

467
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 6: gotta run the management. This guy gotta run the management.

468
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,920
Speaker 6: So I'm a list living testimony to Yeah, we could

469
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,080
Speaker 6: help our our friends, we could help our community, but

470
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 6: you gotta want to work for it. If you're gonna

471
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 6: come over there and not work, we can't do it.

472
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:50,480
Speaker 6: But me, I'm the opposite. I know that I work

473
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 6: hard for everything I got. I live every day like

474
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:57,160
Speaker 6: this my last. Every night we sit down, the whole crew.

475
00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,840
Speaker 6: We eat steak and lobster. The security, each tak and lobster.

476
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 2: Everybody eat. The people that.

477
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,199
Speaker 6: Work for me in my house, you know, take care

478
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,200
Speaker 6: of my mother, take care of me. They eat steak

479
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 6: and lobster. That's us.

480
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 4: We gonna go out like that, you know what I mean?

481
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,399
Speaker 6: And if I passed whenever I leave my family, they

482
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 6: should be good. But while I'm here, while I bust

483
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,399
Speaker 6: my ass for this, Oh no, I'm gonna enjoy it

484
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 6: all to the highest level.

485
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 2: Joe. Let's talk about the beef that happened this summer.

486
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:30,119
Speaker 2: This past summer.

487
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,879
Speaker 1: Drake is he's a crescendo, and then it seems like

488
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,879
Speaker 1: people that and I think he thought that was cool

489
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,480
Speaker 1: with him, all of a sudden came for it. Did

490
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 1: you know that they felt like that about Drake? And

491
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 1: why did so many people seem like he was fanos

492
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,119
Speaker 1: and everybody was trying to get you.

493
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,120
Speaker 6: I don't want nobody to kill me after this, not literally,

494
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 6: but be upset with me. But Drake's a beautiful guy.

495
00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,440
Speaker 6: He's always been nice to me. He's always been nice

496
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 6: to everybody.

497
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,440
Speaker 4: I'm from the old school, so I'm from the don't

498
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 4: bite the hand that feeds you. I'm for the loyalty,

499
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 4: so I could understand whatever. I don't know the dynamics

500
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 4: of the beef between Kendrick and Drake. I don't know

501
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,640
Speaker 4: what that beef was futiful. It might just be good

502
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 4: old hip hop. I'm better than you, You better than me.

503
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:23,719
Speaker 4: You got to come out to the yard, prove it.

504
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 4: You know, in jail, everybody's a gangster.

505
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,920
Speaker 6: To somebody says, Shannon, come to the yard, get your knife,

506
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 6: let's go to the yard. So Kendrick Lamar told him,

507
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 6: let's go to the yard. It came out, bring your

508
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:40,120
Speaker 6: mic let's go. Now everybody else. I don't know the story,

509
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 6: but I was really shocked how everybody went against them.

510
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,680
Speaker 6: I really mean, this is the first time I actually

511
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 6: even talk about it. Like, I was confused because I

512
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 6: thought everybody was family. I thought everybody was cool. Everybody.

513
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 6: You know, I never did a song with Drake. I

514
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 6: never got a dollar from him. I never benefited from him.

515
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 6: But he's a great person, right And just because I

516
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,360
Speaker 6: got a friend who got a bunch of money, who

517
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 6: was the biggest rapp in the world on me, he

518
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 6: gotta make records with me, I could just love him

519
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 6: because I love him.

520
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 4: And so in the hip hop sense, it was a

521
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 4: great battle. But to answer your thing, Uh, if I

522
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 4: was drink, I'd be very confused on how they they

523
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 4: all collapsed.

524
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 1: On me because a lot of people, like you said,

525
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 1: ate off the plate that Drake said and for you, Okay,

526
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 1: I get it. People are going at him, and it's

527
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 1: easy when people are it's easy to pil on once

528
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:39,120
Speaker 1: someone else has got you down.

529
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 2: Man.

530
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 1: And it seems like Kendrick was doing his thing. It

531
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 1: was a nice it was a nice record was played

532
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,159
Speaker 1: they play, I mean they played.

533
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 6: LA forget it not played you go to LA right now?

534
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:54,919
Speaker 6: They playing that thing every two sets?

535
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 4: That six Is that Kendrick Lamar stays yet five times

536
00:25:58,920 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 4: an hour?

537
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:03,640
Speaker 6: Yes, every thirty minutes. Yes, oh no, it's crazy out there.

538
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 6: It's crazy, you know. Uh, but you know, hip hop

539
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 6: battles have always happened since the beginning of the time.

540
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 6: We encourage it. If there's no violence involved. You gotta

541
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,400
Speaker 6: come up to the yard. That's why I didn't understand

542
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 6: what Jake Cole ain't come up to the yard. He

543
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 6: didn't come up to the yard.

544
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 2: So I don't know.

545
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 4: You know, I think j Cole is one of the best. Yeah,

546
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:27,120
Speaker 4: you understand.

547
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: And maybe you saw this thing with this thing was

548
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 1: headed that He's like, I.

549
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 2: Don't even care, but you got to her. You gotta

550
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 2: come to the yard.

551
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 3: We come.

552
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 2: The man summons you.

553
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 6: You gotta come, joke, come in yard, gotta come, you

554
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 6: gotta come in yard. And I love J Cole and

555
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 6: I love his music, but he gotta come to the

556
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 6: yard like you gotta this hip hop.

557
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 4: That's how it started.

558
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 2: From day one.

559
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 6: Busy B coom O D Cool, j Ice, Tumo D

560
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:51,120
Speaker 6: like this.

561
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 4: This thing ain't new carr us one mc shan rock

562
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 4: say and Sean Tay, this is what it is. You know,

563
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 4: you gotta come to yard.

564
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: So what are your thoughts about Kendrick submitting the song

565
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,479
Speaker 1: for the Grammys. And it's not nominally like what four

566
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: or five times Song of the Year, regular.

567
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 6: The year, It's safe to say he got one. When

568
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 6: I heard that, man, I said it on the beat.

569
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 6: I said, oh, he got one. He got one. Even

570
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 6: if it wasn't even a rap battle. We had nothing

571
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 6: to do with the rat bottle and he said, they

572
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 6: not like us, they not. It would have been a

573
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 6: super smash no matter what the energy but everything. You know,

574
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 6: America love a big fight. Yeah, that's why we watch

575
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 6: football every Sunday. That's why we watched the boxing matches.

576
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 2: That's why we.

577
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,719
Speaker 6: Love that ship, you know what I'm saying. And then

578
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 6: we love a guy that's good that we want to

579
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 6: see him lose. I got the Kobe's on. I used

580
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 6: to die for Kobe to lose. Be like, I hate Kobe.

581
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 6: He wins all the time. Until he passed away. I

582
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 6: cried like a baby and said, damn, but we need Kobe,

583
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. So that's what America's built on.

584
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 6: The America's built on a big fight to talk to

585
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 6: this that's never gonna change.

586
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 1: Thirty years from now, will we look back on not

587
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 1: like us? Like no Vassiline hit him up going between

588
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: if you we're gonna look.

589
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 6: Some people say bigger. Some people say it's bigger because

590
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 6: you got Drake. Yeah, this man put out hisits how

591
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 6: many years rich fifteen years we had never heard in

592
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 6: our life Drake not on the radio with a hit

593
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 6: every like he looked like a god.

594
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 4: And then he goes to war with this other little

595
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 4: fella who going hard.

596
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 6: And then the homeboy pulls out a Joe Shardy. It's shipper,

597
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 6: were gonna party. That's what they're not like us, right,

598
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 6: they're not like us. It's like a lean back, Uh

599
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 6: is it an.

600
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 2: You could find me in the club.

601
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a that's that's going forever.

602
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: I think one time you compared you said, Drake is

603
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 1: like joh Rud and I guess Kendrick is like fifty.

604
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 5: No.

605
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: No, I never said that and put it put it

606
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: in the words how you how you framed it.

607
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 4: I never said that.

608
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 2: Okay. So if we're looking at this battle h joh.

609
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 1: Rule fifty Drake, I just think Drake Drake, because Drake

610
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 1: is so being No.

611
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 4: No, I just think Drake.

612
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 6: He might have lost the battle, you know what I'm saying,

613
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 6: But I think he lives on to make more hits.

614
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 6: He still does his stadiums. I still think he's the

615
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 6: biggest rap star on the world.

616
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 4: Like I don't. I think he's the biggest rap star

617
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 4: in the world.

618
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 1: By losing this, does he lose? Does he does any luster,

619
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: any shine come off his luster?

620
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 4: Yeah? But we'll soon to see.

621
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 6: We'll soon to see because if Drake comes out with

622
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 6: ten hits in a row, fifteen hits in a row,

623
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 6: we forget, we forget that he lost the battle.

624
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 2: You know.

625
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 6: See the problem with Jake, with Ja Ruhl and fifty

626
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 6: is that fifty slowed him up to where before that

627
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 6: Ja ru was the Drake of the.

628
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 2: Term with all the heads. That's what.

629
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, So what I'm saying is I believe that Drake

630
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 6: will drop ten fifteen hits in a row and it'll

631
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 6: be like, yo, you caught that l that term like

632
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 6: some you know, some people think jay Z lost the knobs,

633
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 6: but jay Z's jay Z correct, you understand.

634
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 4: So I think that's what's gonna happen with this.

635
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 1: Can you explain the jah rule in fifty six by

636
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 1: to the best of your estimation? What transpired and why

637
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 1: did it become? They didn't just leave it on the wax.

638
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 1: I mean, it seemed like it was really personal and

639
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 1: they sincerely genuinely dislike each other.

640
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 4: Forever. Still, you know, I had it, you know, I

641
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 4: was squashed the beef, right fat Joe squashing the beef?

642
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 4: I had it, and Irvin Joab was like, nah, we

643
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 4: ain't squashing shit.

644
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I swore I had it, Like I don't

645
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,479
Speaker 6: want to put it on fifty, but I think fifty

646
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 6: was almost like yo, Joe, whatever you want to do.

647
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 6: So I had that and then when I went to them,

648
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,719
Speaker 6: they was like, fuck that this this that. Do I

649
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 6: recommend for beef to be twenty thirty years? I think

650
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 6: that's dumb. I think it should be over. I think

651
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 6: it would be show amazing growth for hip hop music if.

652
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 4: Those two squashed it. Yes, yes, and we move on

653
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 4: like you know, like me, I moved on, like you know,

654
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 4: you got to move on from these moments they stuck

655
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 4: and some shit, and every time you just move on.

656
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 2: Fifty.

657
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: It seemed like when fifty get into it with somebody,

658
00:31:56,080 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: if it don't lose, he don't, he don't care, He'll.

659
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 4: Get he gonna have a show with fifty two nights ago.

660
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 4: That's why I'm laughing.

661
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 6: And he was talking my ear off, like the ear off,

662
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 6: And you know this guy, he's so smart and you

663
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 6: in the club and he talking smart shit to.

664
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 4: You, and you're like, yo fifth, like yo were in

665
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 4: the club.

666
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 6: He's like yoh because Evan Eshner, you know, I'm like

667
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 6: yo fifth, Like you know. I'm proud of him because

668
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 6: he come from the hood. He come from a tough background.

669
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 4: Think of all the.

670
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 6: People he fed with all his power and ghosts and

671
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 6: his team. See that's how I look at hip hop

672
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 6: when I see young Doug. Yeah, I want him out

673
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 6: of jail. I want him to employ the one hundred people.

674
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 6: I want him to take care of his family. I

675
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,959
Speaker 6: want to make sure his kids go to private school.

676
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 6: That's how I look at all artists as they get

677
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 6: to feed so many people. Fat Joe, you see, while

678
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 6: he I feed about a hundred people. You know, families

679
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 6: eat Thanksgiving because the Fat Joe. You know, I'm talking

680
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 6: about people who personally.

681
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 4: Work for me.

682
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. And so you know, I'm

683
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 6: proud of him. I'm proud of Joe Rule. I'm proud

684
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 6: of all my brothers. I'm at the point where I'm

685
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 6: about positivity over everything. I could see through the bullshit

686
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 6: and be like, yo, bro, you.

687
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: Know, get this money together. You get your bread. I'm

688
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: gonna get my bread.

689
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 2: We don't need to be beefing what we're beefing for.

690
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 6: Matter of fact, I'm talking about bread. I brought you

691
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 6: a gift. It's core rewinded ten and it says, WI

692
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:40,479
Speaker 6: fight the time when you can rewind the time. Now, Shannon,

693
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 6: I'm not putting you in the age group, but maybe

694
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 6: you want your line shop.

695
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 2: Maybe you want your line shops.

696
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 6: You see, we got that Tyson Beckford, we got that tank.

697
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 6: We got that Travis Kelsey, Nikki jam Brody Jenner, Fat Joe,

698
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 6: DJ Caller. So that's a CBS Sally's beauties were working.

699
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 2: So you want me to get some, get risk of

700
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 2: the get the grays off.

701
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 4: You know the girls.

702
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 2: Don't let them lie to you.

703
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 4: If a woman tells you she wants you gray and she.

704
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 6: Likes yello, she locks she's trying to keep you out

705
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 6: the game. Because why look fifty four when you could

706
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 6: beat forty four? Why look forty three when you can

707
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 6: look thirty three? That's bullshit. I mean our women they

708
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 6: go first.

709
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 2: Thing.

710
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 4: I don't know about you. My daughter's eighteen, right, every

711
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 4: week she gets ten facials. I don't know how they

712
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 4: find time, right, they take care of themselves or find

713
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 4: the money for it. Others, Oh no, no, you know

714
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 4: they got it.

715
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 6: They got y're sharing it. They got it, man, they

716
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 6: got it. And it's like, but they take care of themselves.

717
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 6: I don't see no gray hair on my wife or

718
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 6: none of her friends. Why we can't take care of ourselves?

719
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 2: Rewinded?

720
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 1: Is it true that you lost a twenty plus million

721
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 1: dollar endorsement deal with briand Jordan because of your beef

722
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: with fifty Yeah.

723
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 6: I don't know if it was twenty million, but we

724
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 6: had that. I was designing it. With Michael Jordans himself,

725
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 6: so I had seven meetings with him before any before

726
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 6: they messed with any rapper ever created.

727
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 2: So you about to be Travis gott before Travis.

728
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, So we were sitting down, we was designing

729
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 6: the sneaker seven times.

730
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 4: I came to Vegas, I came all over.

731
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 6: And right before we was about to finalize the deal,

732
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 6: we had that beef on the MTV Awards with me

733
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 6: and Fifty went at each other live on the MTV Awards.

734
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 4: And then I got a phone call the next day.

735
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 2: I never forget.

736
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 6: I was in Jamaica and it was like, yo, Big Joe,

737
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 6: because you know, Michael Jones called me Big Joe.

738
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 4: You know, cause you fan Joe from Big Joe, So

739
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 4: Big Joe.

740
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 6: You know I don't like controversy or this and maybe

741
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 6: in the future this, this, that, and I was right

742
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 6: there and that and you know, rap beef fucked up

743
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 6: a lot of my money. You know what I'm saying

744
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 6: because if you mess with Fifty said, if you mess

745
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 6: with Jayson, people don't know we have subliminal rap be

746
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 6: for jay Z. So if you mess with jay Z,

747
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 6: you can't give me no money because you got to

748
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,720
Speaker 6: be lawyer to jay Z. You got to be lawyer

749
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 6: to fifty cent. You got the rebound deal. That's the

750
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 6: rebound deal. So they shut me down with that one.

751
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:16,240
Speaker 2: Wow.

752
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 6: But you know, I understand in war that they didn't

753
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 6: want me to get financially secured like that because they

754
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 6: knew I was dangerous. So I never cried about it,

755
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. I just took it like

756
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 6: it is, and and just know that God loves me

757
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 6: and I was eventually.

758
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 2: Going to get my money anyway.

759
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 4: You know, But you're currently you're cool with I love

760
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 4: my brother fifty cents my brother too. I love them both,

761
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:48,280
Speaker 4: and I champion them, and I'm happy for them, and

762
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 4: and they happy for me.

763
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 6: When they see me doing good, they happy for me.

764
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 6: They give me the call be like, yo, congrats on

765
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 6: the TV show.

766
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 2: Yo.

767
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 6: This this that I'm cool with both of them. That's

768
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 6: what I'm trying to tell you. This rap shit, it

769
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 6: ain't about nothing. What it's about is you uniting and

770
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 6: getting money and taking care of your people and your

771
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 6: community and inspiring the youth that's coming behind you.

772
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

773
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 5: That?

774
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 4: Ain't you know that Beef may never make me a dollar.

775
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: But that's grown man stuff. How do you get to

776
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: the point, how do you get these young young ones,

777
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: these young men and women, to get to a point

778
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: that they can have adult conversation.

779
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 6: Well, the problem is you got to realize that we

780
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 6: got into hip hop to get out of that bullshit.

781
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,399
Speaker 6: Don't bring it with you, you know. So we got

782
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 6: out of it. We how many times we said, Yo,

783
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 6: we want to get out the hood.

784
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 2: We wanted this. Now you got it.

785
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 6: Now you're living in a nice house, You're taking care

786
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 6: of your moms, your crew. You know, stay focused on

787
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 6: making your music, being creative, being the best artist you

788
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,359
Speaker 6: can be, and stay away from all that other shit

789
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 6: because that ain't about nothing. And the biggest rule you

790
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 6: gotta think about is when you're an artist, when you

791
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 6: got your crew or your entourage or your gang or whoever.

792
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 6: Those other guys don't look at the world like you,

793
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 6: and so you looking at it and you be like, Yo,

794
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 6: I could be the next Yo Gotti, I could be

795
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 6: the next master P, I could be the next this.

796
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,919
Speaker 6: If your crew ain't thinking the same thing, they'll fuck

797
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 6: your whole shit up because they don't care. Because this

798
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 6: is Johnny two times, who's Johnny? Two times? Well, he

799
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,399
Speaker 6: killed the same guy two times. You think he give

800
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 6: a fuck about what you're thinking about business or what's

801
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 6: your next creative sound or what movie you want to do?

802
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 4: He don't care. His job is to kill somebody.

803
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:44,280
Speaker 2: Two times.

804
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 4: He'll fuck the whole shit up for everybody.

805
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 6: So you got to watch who you got and then

806
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 6: let your crew know, y'all we going this way. You know,

807
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 6: my brother's here with me now. Pistol Pete, Pistol Peter,

808
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 6: jail legend, Pistol Pete.

809
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 4: Want of the guys like Pistol Peter ain't in the street,

810
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 4: They just hain't.

811
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 2: But I had to tame them.

812
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 4: Yong bro, we live in good, ain't you vedas?

813
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 2: And sweet?

814
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 4: Ain't you like chill?

815
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 6: And over the years, well he's way past that. He's

816
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 6: a grown ass man. But I had to work with

817
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 6: him and my crew. See, because if you're a real leader,

818
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 6: your people shouldn't be going to jail. Your guys can't

819
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 6: easily be manipulated by you to do some shit and

820
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,919
Speaker 6: go to jail for twenty years. A true leader don't

821
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,399
Speaker 6: send him to jail. He keeps his crew with him.

822
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 6: He keeps him right, so you know, you sell him

823
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 6: your pistol.

824
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 2: When I win, you win.

825
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 4: I don't want you in jail, brother, I don't want

826
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 4: to go visit you in jail.

827
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:45,760
Speaker 2: You're my brother.

828
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 6: And now he goes to Rikers Island and all places,

829
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,919
Speaker 6: mentoring the youth, talking tom how to change their life

830
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 6: when they get out. And he has a podcast too

831
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 6: called Dog in the Yard. But that's what I'm talking about.

832
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,399
Speaker 6: That's the true transformation. To watch the guys in your crew,

833
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 6: because the Feds are they watching your crew, the hip

834
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 6: hop police, Oh, they watching your crew. They're not even

835
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 6: watching you. They're watching your crew. Now who's that, Who's that?

836
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 6: Who's that? Who's that? Who's that?

837
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 2: Now?

838
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 6: Let's see what they doing, and then that all trickles

839
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 6: back to you and jams you are like they did.

840
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 6: Bobby Schmerder, Bobby Schmurder wasn't a bad guy. He was

841
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 6: a good kid. He got jammed up. He was keeping

842
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,800
Speaker 6: it real with his crew from the hood and bringing

843
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 6: them to the studio and somehow got caught up in

844
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 6: some shit and went to jail for seven eight years.

845
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 6: That kid had such a promising career. You know, they

846
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 6: took it from.

847
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 1: Him, you signed with roten Nation? What made you sign?

848
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 1: Because you could have signed with anybody? What made you

849
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: sign with roten Nation.

850
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 6: There's a woman named desire perez Ry. So she called

851
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 6: me into the office. I had already made peace with Ja.

852
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 6: He was already on the all the way up remix.

853
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 6: And she sat me down, and so this Oji Wan's wife.

854
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 6: She sat me down and said, Yo, you know, I

855
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 6: think you should be a rock Nation artist and we

856
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 6: should manage you, you know, and to them, you know,

857
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 6: in this game of chest, Fat Joe was a real

858
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 6: big piece to grab a on AA.

859
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 2: So she said, I know you're doing the deal right now.

860
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,399
Speaker 6: And the deal was for a million dollars. I thought,

861
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 6: I negotiated a great deal. I was negotiating a deal

862
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 6: with somebody. Let's just say one million dollars for this

863
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,839
Speaker 6: glass of water. She said, what if I told you

864
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 6: I call that guy right now to give you three

865
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 6: and a half million for that same deal you negotiated

866
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 6: for one million.

867
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 4: I said, let me see. She gott of the number

868
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 4: called the dude said, Yo, you're doing the deal with

869
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 4: Fat Joe.

870
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know this.

871
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 4: She was like, yeah, it's for one million, right, yeah,

872
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 4: it's three and a half million. Now we manage you.

873
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 4: He said, sure, I send the check tomorrow. Dad's hung

874
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 4: up the phone. Wow, that was it for me. He's like, okay, yeah,

875
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 4: you know that said that's it for me. I come

876
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 4: from nothing. When I see that type of power, I

877
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 4: was like, oh no, I need that, Like that's that

878
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 4: you know, and we've been happily ever after.

879
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: For Joe, how does one set aside his pride because,

880
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:27,320
Speaker 1: like you said, you had a little, subtle, not major, Wilhold,

881
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: how did you set that aside and say, man, I'm

882
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: going to get at this money. That's bs later for

883
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 1: that sitting that to the side. Let me go get

884
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 1: this paper.

885
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 4: You know what they did to me, Shannon, and I'm

886
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 4: guilty of many, many, many many crimes. Never rape, never murder,

887
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:48,919
Speaker 4: but I've robbed people. I did everything you could do, sool,

888
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 4: every drug you could do, whatever.

889
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 6: So now I turned my life legit and I trust

890
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 6: these accountants. And accountant fucked me and didn't pay my

891
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 6: taxes while I was sending them wire transfers. The Feds come,

892
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 6: my lawyer shows them that we was paying them the

893
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 6: wire transfers and that he didn't pay my taxes. The

894
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 6: FEDS came back and said, you, as the leader of

895
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 6: your household, is responsible for whoever you hired. So I

896
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 6: wound up going to jail, and they took all my money,

897
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 6: millions of dollars from me and left me dead broke,

898
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 6: and so I had to come. I never made an excuse.

899
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 6: I never borrowed money from nobody. I had friends that

900
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 6: were millionaires that offered me, Yojo take a million. Pit

901
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 6: Bull the rapper, Yeah, he the only one. He offered

902
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 6: me money. But all my other friends that are rich,

903
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 6: they were like, Yojoe, let me give you a million dollars.

904
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 4: You pay me back.

905
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 2: Yo.

906
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 6: This my man Eve Philly came crying to me with

907
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 6: a duffel bag of cash, like please, Johnson, I can't

908
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 6: take nobody money.

909
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 4: So I wanted to perform the Yugoslavia, Africa, China, Poland.

910
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 6: Wherever you named it had a dollar attached to the

911
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,399
Speaker 6: bottom of the table. I was out there. I made

912
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 6: no excuses. Thank God, I came back. And so when

913
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 6: God show you that it could all be snatched away,

914
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 6: and then you got an opportunity to put things aside

915
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 6: and work with the powerfuls people in the game. And

916
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 6: get money together. I would be a fooler turn that.

917
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 2: Then, right this Dame Dash is taking shots to you.

918
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 1: He was in he was one of the pop guys

919
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 1: in the position he would hold Rockefeller and he's taking

920
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 1: I had him on my show and he didn't really

921
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,359
Speaker 1: want to talk about anything, but he saw Occasionally he'll

922
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: go on his IG live and say this, this, and

923
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,800
Speaker 1: this's what's the issue, what's going on with that?

924
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 4: I don't have no issue with Damn Dash.

925
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 3: Oh.

926
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 6: I actually I went back to the video. That's why

927
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 6: I stopped doing my lives. I went back to CEO.

928
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 6: Did I diss him? I didn't diss him, and he

929
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 6: took something I had said prior and just accepted that

930
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 6: and he said that I said he was delusional.

931
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 2: I did not say he was delusional.

932
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 6: I just said I use an example where jay Z

933
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 6: said in the record, if you made hole, go make

934
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 6: another hole, right And I ain't see nobody make another

935
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Speaker 6: hole right now.

936
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Speaker 2: Damn Dash.

937
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 6: You know he has a He's in the point of

938
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 6: his life. It's very sad to see what's going on

939
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 6: with Dave Dash, right.

940
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 2: But sometimes.

941
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 6: You're so smart that you stand in the way of

942
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 6: yourself and you block your own blessings and you just

943
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 6: going and going. And and he responded to me so far,

944
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 6: he know what, Tom damon dash, you know what time

945
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 6: it is?

946
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:46,359
Speaker 2: Like, don't you know that? Right? He could have just no, no, no,

947
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 2: but he just know the.

948
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Speaker 6: Difference between me and him, right, let's be clear, okay, Joe.

949
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 6: So so the way he came at me was for

950
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 6: me to respond, and then I felt like this was

951
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 6: all a clout click man, and it wasn't that serious.

952
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 6: I respect him as a brilliant mind. I respect hear

953
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,959
Speaker 6: this too, Dave. I respect him as a brilliant mind,

954
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 6: somebody who contributed to hip hop so much, and like

955
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:13,720
Speaker 6: I said, I'm in positivity. My immediately fat Jo Warrior

956
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 6: was to snap back to start and I realized, like, yo, bro,

957
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 6: like this is the man he did so much for

958
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:22,240
Speaker 6: hip hop culture.

959
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:22,800
Speaker 2: I can't.

960
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,280
Speaker 6: I can't drag him while he's down or I can't.

961
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 6: That's just not in me.

962
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 2: You know me.

963
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 6: So I just I stepped to the side. I let

964
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 6: him go at me, take some shots, and was like,

965
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:33,879
Speaker 6: all right.

966
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 2: Damn cool, you know what I'm saying.

967
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 6: But you know, it's sad to see where he's at,

968
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 6: right now, to be honest with you, and I don't

969
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 6: know where he's at, but it's sad.

970
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: How do you think jay Z is doing in the

971
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 1: role that he has with the NFL feel great?

972
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 2: I mean the.

973
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 4: Last year was Usher broke the racket?

974
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think it didn't he have? I think Rihanna.

975
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 4: Leanna before that? Jay Lo, what's your carra, It's been incredible.

976
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 2: Ray's new fifty M.

977
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 4: Let's go, Let's go.

978
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 6: I did understand Lil Wayne's point of view. Okay, I

979
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 6: did understand cash Money's point of view. It's New Orleans

980
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 6: is a small market. Those are the Kings in New Orleans.

981
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 6: Either way, I love Kendrick perform it, and Kendrick is

982
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 6: the hottest guy in twenty twenty four, So I understood that.

983
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 6: But I did under you know, usually when people do

984
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 6: some shit, I'm really like, yo, my man, come on, please.

985
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:34,240
Speaker 4: This was legit.

986
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 6: This this was legit that Lil Wayne could have performed

987
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 6: in hell Down, that halftime, could have brought Drake, he

988
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 6: could have brought Nicki Minaja, could have brought the hot boys.

989
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, it was legit. It was legit.

990
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 2: It was it.

991
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 6: Was like I understand, I don't want to take nothing

992
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 6: for Kendrick Lamar because he earned it, you know what

993
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 6: I'm saying. But at the same time, I wouldn't have

994
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 6: mind the cash money have time.

995
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: Isn't a situation because we saw what happened at the

996
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 1: LA super Bowl where they had Dre, they had Snoop

997
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 1: because proud of that. We had never seen a situation

998
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: where a hometown act got to perform because when it

999
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: was in.

1000
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 2: Atlanta, they had Maroom five Atlanta. I checked. Maroom five

1001
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 2: ain't from the eight.

1002
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 1: They bypassed Usher, they bypassed Outcast and Ti and Luda

1003
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 1: and whomever.

1004
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 2: Future, all those well who did that. That was before

1005
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 2: that was for whole Absolutely, You're absolutely right.

1006
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 1: But I'm saying so I think that we thought that

1007
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 1: once jay Z got in there and they saw doctor

1008
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 1: Dre and they saw Snoop at LA, they just automatically assume, now,

1009
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 1: if the super Bowl is in somebody's hometown, oh they

1010
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 1: gonna get it.

1011
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 2: And it doesn't work like that.

1012
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 6: Does not, There's not There's a lot of politics to evolve, you.

1013
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 4: Know, just like you you from LA, right, you live

1014
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 4: in LA.

1015
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, every one second is Kendrick Lamar on that Ragion.

1016
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 6: People who make decisions of the NFL live in LA

1017
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 6: and they listening to that radio and every one second

1018
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 6: it's Kendrick Lamar. So they thinking that's all over America

1019
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 6: ringing norf like that, and so they picked him. He's

1020
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 6: the biggest guy for twenty twenty four. I love it

1021
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 6: either way, right, And who's to say that he doesn't

1022
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 6: bring out Little Wayne.

1023
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 4: Who's to say they don't rock out like that? You

1024
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 4: know what.

1025
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 1: The cash money or bring out masters, no limit soldiers

1026
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 1: or something, have some aspect of the New Orleans because.

1027
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 6: Mea ax, I'm a big fan of New Orleans hippos

1028
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 6: from day one.

1029
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. They they helped this hip

1030
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:37,800
Speaker 4: hop evolve.

1031
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 6: The cash money, that no limit that you know they

1032
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 6: you know, New Orleans always.

1033
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 4: Been a shit in hip hop, you know what I'm saying.

1034
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: I mean they could have would you have felt better

1035
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 1: they brought out the Neville Brothers if they brought up

1036
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 1: with the Brandon Marcellis. But I'm just saying so, I mean, Harry, Conny, Julie,

1037
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Speaker 1: their native God bless them.

1038
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 2: Maybe they could have played.

1039
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 6: Now I would have respect that it. If Lil Wayne

1040
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 6: was performing and the Neville Brothers are playing the music

1041
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:09,399
Speaker 6: behind them. That's inclusion, But to hear that, I'd rather

1042
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 6: hear Kendrick Lamar all the Cash Money Crew.

1043
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 2: Right.

1044
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Speaker 1: This concludes the first half of my conversation. Part two

1045
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,280
Speaker 1: is also posted and you can access it to whichever

1046
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:23,799
Speaker 1: podcast platform you just listen to part one on. Just

1047
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 1: simply go back to club profile and I'll see you there.