1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:02,719 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio Video Radio. 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 2: This is up on Game Hot, Bye Hush Pinzada for 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 2: the touchdowns. You want anfl experience? What LeVar Early two? 4 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 2: Then this is the show for you with LeVar Aaring, Ted. 5 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 3: F tom Brady. You know what I take you back, TJ. 6 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 4: Huschmanzanna, Lean's first round, Michael MacCarthy's out of. 7 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: There, and Plexico Burrets. 8 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 4: Tom Brady's no longer there. 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Here's pro bowlers LaVar 28 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 1: Airy Test, TJ, Hushman, Zanna and Silper Bowl champion Plaxico Burress. 29 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 3: All right, happy Saturday to everybody. 30 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 6: Good morning, good morning, and well good neon to some 31 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 6: of us out there. 32 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, alright, coach Phil, you know what I mean. Hey, 33 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 3: plex where are we at? Man? 34 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 4: Oh man? 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But panteen Man will be back next week. 45 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 6: All right, So TJ's off stretches in all right, Yeah, 46 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 6: and you know it's a good Saturday. I won't say 47 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 6: it's a horrible Saturday. It's nice out it. It's going 48 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 6: to be very very hot. We're going to do a 49 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 6: little pool day today. The daughter's birthday is tomorrow, so 50 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 6: it's going to be a good day. Stretch Man, what's 51 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 6: going on your way? 52 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 4: I can always since and tell how the weather is 53 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 4: in California based off of how TJ comes on the show. Yeah, 54 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 4: because when the sun, when it's clear skies and the 55 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 4: sun is out. 56 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 3: Super Sonny. He is just as happy as he can be. 57 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 4: Man. So you know what, you didn't do a bad job, 58 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:15,519 Speaker 4: so it might it might be a little overcast, so Panteen. 59 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 3: Hey, look, it's way more energy from me these days. 60 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 6: I tell you that I was dying a slow death 61 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 6: for like three months, man, Like it was like dark 62 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 6: the whole entire time for three months in Cali. 63 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 4: I'm man, you had some very strange will of going on. 64 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 4: It was like Jersey weather. It's like where you come on, man, 65 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 4: don't do me like that. 66 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 3: I want it. 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What's what's the latest 81 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 6: on that? And think I do believe Austin Eckler had 82 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 6: some some strong words to say about it as well. 83 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 7: So, yeah, yesterday, Joe Mixon is the latest running back 84 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 7: to kind of redo his contract. Ian Rappaport of the 85 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 7: NFL Network has the details. Basically, Mixing took a four 86 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 7: point four point four million dollar pay cut this year 87 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 7: and a four point seven million dollar pay cut next year. 88 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 7: His twenty twenty three base salary is five point five 89 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 7: to one. He can make an extra two million in 90 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 7: incentives and he now can possibly stay with the team 91 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 7: next year. But yeah, he did take a pay cut 92 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 7: to remain in Cincinnati. 93 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 3: That's a haircut, not a pay cut. 94 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 6: So before you before you comment on this, here's what 95 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 6: Austin Eckler had to say about the state of running backs. 96 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 5: It's gonna take something, right, whether some guy stands out again, 97 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 5: whether it's this year or some you know, one of 98 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 5: these guys holds out and get the big contract. But 99 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 5: we need that needle to move to push us over 100 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 5: the edge. Because here's the deal. The salary cap goes 101 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 5: out every single year, right, and so you see new 102 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 5: highs in every single position. And I'm not saying we've 103 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 5: had another Christian McCaffrey type guy who's gonna even you know, 104 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 5: blow up the market and the running back and put 105 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 5: a new high. We've had people that have. 106 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:35,679 Speaker 3: Been closed for sure. 107 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 5: Maybe you could justify that there has been, but there's 108 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 5: no one even been close to those contracts, not even close. 109 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 3: M where's that sound from bo rich Eisen? So? All right? 110 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 6: We got so that was Austin Eckler on the rich 111 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 6: eisend soho plex and it just sounds like it's a 112 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 6: very very dramatic and just very very turbulent time for 113 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 6: the running back position. Do you do you agree with 114 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 6: what what Eckler is saying in terms of it's just 115 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 6: gonna take somebody who can move the needle and get 116 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 6: that that blockbuster deal. 117 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 3: Man. 118 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 4: I agree with him one hundred percent. I've been an 119 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 4: advocate and speaking about the trend that's been going on 120 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 4: for the past couple of years with the running backs, 121 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 4: and he's exactly right. And you look, you look at 122 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 4: Joe Mixon and he basically cutting salary in half, but 123 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 4: he can make two million dollars in incentives to just 124 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 4: stay with the to just stay with the team, And 125 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 4: that doesn't help the Austin Ecklers of the world, or 126 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 4: the Josh Jacobs and the Tony Paula's and the and 127 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 4: the sa Kwan Barkley's because all it all it's really doing, 128 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 4: is what Christian mccraffley said a month ago, is that 129 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 4: they're just devaluing the position with some of the moves 130 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 4: that they made. Listen, I understand that it's business, but 131 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,919 Speaker 4: to go from a nine million dollar salary down to 132 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 4: a five million dollars, that's basically they cutting your salary 133 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 4: in half. And I know that Cincinnati is a very 134 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 4: good football team that he wants to remain on, but 135 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 4: at some point in time, that's like Austin Eckler says, 136 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 4: somebody don't have to stand up and say, listen, we 137 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 4: cannot continue to go out there and give these teams 138 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 4: this kind of production and not be paid accordingly. And 139 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 4: if you look at Austin eckler stats and what he's 140 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 4: been able to do over the past few years, man, 141 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 4: his stats are basically similar to what Christian McCaffrey has 142 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 4: been able to do over the past few years. And 143 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 4: I just you just just mind boggling how these teams 144 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 4: and these organizations what's happening at the position. But at 145 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 4: the same time, man, the business side of it, these 146 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 4: NFL teams are going to continue to get the best 147 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 4: players at the lowest price that they possibly can. And 148 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 4: it just happens to be at the running back position. 149 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 4: And it's just taken away from from the great players 150 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 4: that deserve it. And now we're sitting here looking at 151 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 4: a situation where you know, Joe Showing and the general 152 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 4: manager from the New York Giants, they have to get 153 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 4: a deal done by Monday. If they think Saquan right, 154 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 4: it's going to play in the opening game against Dallas 155 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 4: on Sunday Night Football. And listen, I talked to Saquan 156 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 4: last week, and he's basically at a position where, listen, 157 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 4: he wants to be compensated for what he thinks he deserves. 158 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 4: He's not trying to break the market or set the market. 159 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 4: He just wants to be paid what he thinks he 160 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 4: deserves and that's the best way for him to go 161 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 4: about it. But you know, Joe Shawan going into a 162 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 4: second year as a GM, they have to find a 163 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 4: way to get this deal done Monday by four o'clock 164 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 4: to get him a long term deal and not sign 165 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 4: a franchise tag because listen, if they don't get him 166 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,439 Speaker 4: signed Monday, I don't think we're going to see him 167 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 4: suit up Sunday night against the Dallas Cowboys in Giant Stadium. 168 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 4: How big of a deal is that If he doesn't 169 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 4: shoot out, man, it really doesn't give the Giants a 170 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 4: chance to win. I mean, you look at Dallas defense 171 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 4: and what they've been able to bring to the table. 172 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 4: They're going to continue to get better. And he's the 173 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 4: best player on the team. Man, take care of your 174 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 4: best players. And it's not like the kid. He's a 175 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 4: great kid. Man, And you just don't understand why and 176 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 4: how these teams will look at a guy like sau 177 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 4: and he's basically your whole entire offense, and he makes 178 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 4: Daniel Jones better and he when you don't have him 179 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 4: in the backfield, it just takes away from the whole 180 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 4: entire offense. And plus you don't want to have this 181 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 4: guy sitting at home being the scruntled and be like, listen, 182 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 4: they don't even want me, really want me. 183 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 3: They don't really want me. 184 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 4: And that's not a bad that's not good for anybody, 185 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 4: giants or him. But they got to get this deal done. 186 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 4: If they not, I don't think we'll see him for 187 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 4: the first couple of weeks. 188 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 3: Wow. Wow. All right, So here's my take on it. 189 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 6: While I agree with what Austin Eckler is saying, while 190 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 6: I agree with what you're saying, you see outliers, right, 191 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 6: Like McCaffrey got his sixteen million. That's what Saquon asked 192 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,719 Speaker 6: for for sixteen million, I believe, And they don't want 193 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 6: to give them to sixteen. I think they offered them thirteen. 194 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 6: I believe. I think it was fourteen. They offered him fourteen. Yeah, 195 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 6: and that would have been up from what from ten 196 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 6: I believe something to that effect, Right, if he's not 197 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 6: trying to reset the market, but he's trying to get. 198 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 3: What he's valued at. 199 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 6: Do we place Saquon in the same category as what 200 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 6: McCaffrey is. 201 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 4: I believe that he is from a performance standpoint from 202 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 4: being productive on the football field. I believe that it is. 203 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 4: But we don't really know the the you know, the 204 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 4: contract is. Was it not enough guaranteed money or it 205 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 4: sounds like to me the annual base sally was there. 206 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 4: They offered fourteen, but we don't know what to guaranteed 207 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 4: money was. Yeah, that's offer. That is fair. 208 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 6: I just I just think that if they offered you 209 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 6: fourteen and you were trying to get sixteen, are we 210 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 6: really like and listen? I mean, I'm you know, I'm 211 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 6: pro Saquon all day for obvious reasons. But if you're 212 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 6: at fourteen and they're saying, Okay, this is the best 213 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 6: offer we're going to give you, and we're going to 214 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 6: take it off the table. If you don't take this 215 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 6: and you're at fourteen and you asked for sixteen, I mean, plex. 216 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 3: I mean, am I wrong? 217 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 6: At at age forty five, I'm sitting here and I'm 218 00:11:56,640 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 6: just being honest. If that's my son. I'm telling my 219 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 6: son taking we're taking this contract, and the reason why 220 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 6: we're taking this contract is we're going to do what 221 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 6: we need to do with how you invest in yourself 222 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 6: and take care of your your coins and your pennies 223 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 6: and your nickels and your dimes, and you're going to work. 224 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 3: We're gonna work like we'll do what we need to do. 225 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 6: Sometimes you got to look at your value and understand 226 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 6: that your value is betting on yourself and knowing that 227 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 6: you can create and generate your own value within a business. 228 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 6: If I'm at fourteen million, if I'm at fourteen million, 229 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 6: I'm not so sure. 230 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 3: Don't I don't take that deal. 231 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 6: But then I had that conversation with with the organization saying, listen, 232 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 6: I've had I've been here, I've had two productive years. 233 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:49,199 Speaker 6: I've had I've had two years where I've been injured. 234 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 6: You base what you do off of what have you 235 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 6: done for me lately, and what I've done for you 236 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 6: lately is been a catalyst for this team winning. 237 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 3: If you want to use. 238 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 6: My health history as as a reason for having a 239 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 6: little bit of trepidation or a pause on doing this, 240 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 6: then let's get this done. 241 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 3: Let's make it a short term deal. 242 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 6: Let's make it a short term deal, and let's revisit 243 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 6: it and make that short term deal worthwhile. If it's 244 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 6: if it's not, if it's not a good enough long 245 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 6: term deal. I mean the ten million at the salary 246 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 6: or at the franchise tag, I feel like that's too low. 247 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,599 Speaker 6: So it's not there's not a sweet spot here for 248 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 6: a runner. You're saying, fourteen is the medium. Basically, that's 249 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 6: what it sounds like. That's what it sounds like. And 250 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 6: if they if they offered you fourteen million, and that's 251 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 6: too off, two million off from where where McCaffrey is, 252 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 6: Like you said, I don't know what the guarantees are 253 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:51,439 Speaker 6: within what they're offering him, and how feasible it is 254 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:54,959 Speaker 6: for him to get to the fourteen million a year. 255 00:13:55,880 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 6: But if it's close, if the contract reads like let's 256 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 6: just say for the sake of discussion, the contract reads 257 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 6: the same exact way that Christian mccaffreyes reads and he's 258 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 6: getting fourteen million, I'm taking that deal. 259 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 3: I'm taking that deal. Yeah, And there's other ways around it. 260 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 4: Just like when Joe Mixon restructured this contract, he gets 261 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 4: two million dollars probably easy to reach incentives. Give sakuon 262 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 4: two million dollar roster bonus or workout bonus or whatever 263 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 4: or whatever it may be to help him to get 264 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 4: to sixteen million. 265 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, well we'll see how that all plays out. But 266 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 6: like you said, clock is ticking. You know who else 267 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 6: is clock is ticking? 268 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 3: Lebron James, Lebron James. 269 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, he had an announcement to make. I don't know 270 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 6: if y'all heard it, but we'll talk about it, and well, 271 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 6: what was our opinions on that? I mean, you know, 272 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 6: you know it was the anniversary of the decision. Anyway, 273 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 6: you're listening to two pros of the Cup of Joe. 274 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 6: That's Plexico Birds. I'm LeVar Arrington, TJ's This is Up 275 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 6: on Game. Fox Sports Radio will be right back. 276 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 277 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: the nation. 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Yeah, I mean La 297 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 6: var you know, La Style, Hollywood. Yeah, I mean it's 298 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 6: a few of them. You have me ghetto, you know, 299 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 6: we got you know, we got a lot of nicknames 300 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 6: when you're from certain places in the world. Speaking of 301 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 6: humble beginnings, Uh, your boy, you know. On the on 302 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 6: the eighth of this month, mark the thirteenth anniversary, thirteenth 303 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 6: year of the decision, when Lebron James went on to 304 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 6: ESPN and announced that he would be taking his talents 305 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 6: to South Beach. 306 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 3: Well, Lebron did it again. 307 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 6: You know, thirteen years later, a lot of questions were 308 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 6: swear Lincoln surrounding would Lebron James come back? Which I 309 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 6: have the slightest idea as to why that would have 310 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 6: been being debated and discussed. We do know he kind 311 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 6: of said he didn't know after they lost the series, 312 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 6: but to the Nuggets. But I mean, let's be clear, 313 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 6: I mean we I think we all knew what we knew, 314 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 6: and he made it official, he announced that he's not retiring. 315 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 6: But my biggest question here is was that was that corny? 316 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 3: Was it? Was? It? Was that a Was that a 317 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 3: lame move? 318 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 6: I mean, does it like, yeah, it matters if he's 319 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 6: coming back, but he could could he have just told 320 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 6: everybody and the Lakers organization I'm coming back and and 321 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 6: just kind. 322 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:46,919 Speaker 3: Of left it at that. 323 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying. So did it did it matter 324 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 6: for him to come out in publicly? And listen, you 325 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 6: got to be a big ass star in the grand 326 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 6: scheme of things for this to even be a topic. 327 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 6: But I mean, let's be clear, he caught a lot 328 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 6: of flak and a lot of heat. You know, he 329 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 6: caught a lot of a lot of for doing the decision. Now, 330 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 6: this wasn't quite like the decision, not at all. But 331 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 6: I mean, he did do it on a large platform 332 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 6: and he let people know he was coming back. 333 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 4: I mean, how did you take it. I really don't 334 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 4: see what the fuss is about. I don't see what 335 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 4: the problem is. I think that a lot of people 336 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 4: wanted the story. 337 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 3: They wanted to be. 338 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 4: It happened, his decision, happened on live television again, and 339 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 4: it took us back to the to the whole Miami 340 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 4: Heat thing when he made the decision on National International TV. 341 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 4: And you know, it was a whole big deal, a 342 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 4: whole big deal for him joining the Miami Heat. But 343 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 4: I just think that people had a problem with it 344 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 4: because they wanted to be a story and somebody wanted 345 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 4: the story, but not just to come out live in 346 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 4: the setting that he did and announced it in front 347 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:04,360 Speaker 4: of everybody. But I just don't see what the problem 348 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 4: is with him saying that. Listen, he just said a 349 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 4: month ago to Mark Malone that the sun is I'm 350 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:16,360 Speaker 4: the sun. He's ever gonna shine and he's the all 351 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 4: time leading scorer in NBA history, And everybody knew that 352 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 4: when he got swept by the Denver Nuggets that he 353 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 4: was coming back for another season. 354 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 3: He's not going out like that. We all know that. 355 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 4: And he does still have a lot to give to 356 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 4: the game of basketball. He's not he's not the best 357 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 4: player in the world anymore, but I would say he's 358 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 4: still a top ten player in this league. 359 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 3: So why would you retire and walk. 360 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 4: Away when he can still you know, get up, get 361 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 4: up and down the court pretty good. You know, he 362 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:48,439 Speaker 4: can give you twenty five thirty points. But I just 363 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 4: don't see what the problem is with everybody with the 364 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 4: decision that he made. I just think that, you know, 365 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 4: people wanted the story for themselves and to have it 366 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 4: be a bigger, you know, story than it was with 367 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:05,640 Speaker 4: him announcing it at the Espies. 368 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 6: All right, So, and he gave some I think he 369 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 6: gave some clear, concise reasons as to why he's staying 370 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 6: and why he hasn't left yet, And I kind of 371 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 6: I thought it was kind of dope, to be honest. 372 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 6: Here's what he had to say. Here's the SoundBite. If 373 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 6: you didn't get a chance to hear it. 374 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 8: I don't care how many more points I score or 375 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 8: what I can and cannot do on the floor. The 376 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 8: real question for me is can I play without cheating 377 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 8: this game. The day I can't give the game everything 378 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 8: on the floor is the day I'll be done. Lucky 379 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 8: for you guys, that day is not today. I mean 380 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 8: lucky for you guys. And they clapped. So you talk 381 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 8: like that, Lebron James, he knows his audience. I'll tell 382 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 8: you that. I mean, he'd let him know. 383 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 6: I'm driving to put these two feet down, these ten 384 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 6: toes and I'm gonna get to work again. So I listen, 385 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 6: there's there's always two sides to every coin. I don't 386 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 6: I don't know that MJ had another side that was 387 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 6: as hateful towards him as Lebron James does. And listen, 388 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 6: it's a different day and age, it's a different time. 389 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 6: So I get that social media has transformed the way 390 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 6: UH fans handle things. It's, you know, the social media 391 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 6: UH seen as such a negative cesspool of just just 392 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 6: people that just seem to hate their lives and and 393 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 6: and hate others and just hate hate everything, and and 394 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 6: they have a platform to be able to tell people 395 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 6: direct that they hate it or they hate them or 396 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,919 Speaker 6: whatever it may be. So maybe that's, you know, the 397 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,880 Speaker 6: symptom that that Lebron has to deal with on the 398 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 6: other side of how much some people hate him. I've 399 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 6: even been accused of being a Lebron James hater. I'm 400 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 6: far from a Lebron Lebron James hater. I don't hate 401 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 6: him just because I think that is the greatest player 402 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 6: of all time. I would just say that I think 403 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 6: that MJ is the greatest basketball player of all time, 404 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,239 Speaker 6: and that's my discussion point on it. But you know, 405 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 6: I think that Lebron James has done an excellent job 406 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 6: of continuing to pull the NBA forward and keeping them relevant. 407 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 6: You know, now you got the entry of Winbin Yama 408 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 6: into the league. They need They need Lebron James the NBA, 409 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 6: that is. I believe they need Lebron James to give 410 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 6: them at least enough time for the NBA to figure 411 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 6: out who is going to be the next person or 412 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 6: people that can actually continue to drive this game mainstream 413 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 6: and internationally continue to drive it forward. 414 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I do. 415 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,679 Speaker 6: I don't is there another personality and I don't know 416 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 6: that Winbin Yama is the personality to go with the 417 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 6: talent that Lebron James is. 418 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 4: I wouldn't speak I wouldn't say that from a personality standpoint, 419 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 4: But I would say from a standpoint of playing basketball 420 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 4: that I believe that, you know, we have some guys 421 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 4: that can, you know, continue to you know, carry the torch. 422 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 4: And you know Yannis and Joker, and you still have 423 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 4: Steph Curry and those guys out in Golden State. 424 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 3: So I don't believe that. 425 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 4: You've got a Steph Curry, And I don't believe that 426 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 4: the NBA isn't a bad and in a bad state. 427 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 4: If Lebron continued, If if Lebron Leon chooses to retire 428 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 4: next year, Joel embiid, I mean, we have some guys 429 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 4: that can carry the league. 430 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 6: I don't know, man, and I say, talent wise, yes, 431 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 6: you got Joker. It's it's horrible to look at like 432 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 6: You don't look at Joker and feel it's horrible to 433 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 6: look at it. It's horrible to look at like those. 434 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 6: It's boring to look at how's it boring? Joker's game 435 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 6: is born, Joker points game about fascinating, twenty assists, and 436 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 6: you don't see his. 437 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 3: Game is fascinating. 438 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 4: He literally to look at him, don't you say to yourself, 439 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 4: how in the hell does he have to a man 440 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 4: of his stature, continue to dominate at the level that 441 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 4: he does A. 442 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 6: Plax, you be ten seconds into the game, he already 443 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 6: got ten points. 444 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 3: Yea, I'm I don't see watching the. 445 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 4: Playoffs and the man, damn they had a triple double 446 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 4: in the first quarter. 447 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't, I don't. I don't. How's that boring? Yeah, 448 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 3: I don't. It's it's boring because I can't see it. 449 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 3: They play an exciting brand of basketball. 450 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 6: Ju Murray and Paul Murray's exciting to watch play because 451 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 6: you can see on. 452 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 4: The same team. 453 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 6: I can't just single him out and say, oh, the 454 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 6: joke is boring to watch. 455 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 3: He is born watch what is? What is? Yannis isn't 456 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 3: boring to watch. 457 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 6: But I think they're starting to figure out just just 458 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 6: don't let Yannis get to the to the to the cup, 459 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 6: you know, like, just just make them beat from the outside. 460 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,959 Speaker 3: He needs to involve his game a little bit. I 461 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 3: understand that. 462 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 6: And and to that point, I think Jannis is a 463 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 6: great personality, But is he the personality that can carry 464 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 6: the league. 465 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 3: John Morant look like he might. 466 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 6: Have been able to head into the like almost like 467 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 6: like the still the like the the AI version. Yeah, 468 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 6: I don't disagree with that. I don't disagree with that, 469 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 6: but I mean, he's going to have to grow up 470 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 6: if he's going to be that type of a guy 471 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 6: to that type of this type of a corporation. Who 472 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 6: else are we talking about? Joel Embiid. That's a no. 473 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 3: You know, he's just not That's what he's said. 474 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 6: We're talking about mega stars that are going to drive 475 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 6: this game forward. Those are not the type of mega 476 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 6: stars that of Michael Jordan or Lebron James are. 477 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 3: They're like not that. 478 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 6: If Lebron James and Michael Jordan are the standard of 479 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 6: the type of players that have driven this game and 480 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 6: carried this game forward, there's not one person in the 481 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 6: NBA right now? 482 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 4: Are you not mentioning Stephen Curry because it's because he's six? 483 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 3: No. 484 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 6: I did give Stephans props when you said him the 485 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 6: first time I did. 486 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 4: He's six and he doesn't have the stature of a 487 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 4: Michael Jordan and a Lebron James. 488 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,400 Speaker 3: I'll say this, who I probably had. 489 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 6: He probably had more of an impact on the NBA, 490 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 6: in the basketball game as a whole, more than probably 491 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 6: any other player that's played. 492 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 3: Thank you very much that I'm not debating that now. 493 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 4: I believe what it's all said and done that Steph 494 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 4: Curry will be the all time leading score in NBA history. 495 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 3: Oh oh wow, he's only in what he's eleven twelve 496 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 3: year If he. 497 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 4: If he continues to score at the rate that he's scoring, 498 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 4: and he plays eighteen nineteen years, like Lebron James, he 499 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 4: will be the all time leading scoring NBA history. 500 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 6: Look at where he's at right now. I don't, I don't. 501 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:20,439 Speaker 6: I don't have a problem with it. 502 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 3: I don't have a problem with that. 503 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 6: That that's a lot of so when you say Lebron James 504 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 6: and Michael jordan nobody talks about Steph curk because in 505 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 6: the manner that he's doing it in, it's not that, 506 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 6: oh my gosh, he just dunked on so and so, 507 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 6: and it's not going through the land that the final 508 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 6: switching from the right hand. 509 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 3: The game has changed. 510 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 6: But you know what, Lebron James and Kobe Bryant and 511 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 6: Michael Jordans, they built that larger than life persona off 512 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 6: of the style and the charisma and the way they 513 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 6: played the game and the things that they did off 514 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 6: of the court. That's what that's what So the game 515 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 6: has changed somewhat. But if you get a guy that 516 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 6: comes into the league and can do the things that 517 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 6: Lebron James has done historically, what Kobe has done historically, 518 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 6: what Michael Jordan has done historically, that's that's a guy 519 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 6: that can get to the rim like a Yiannis, a 520 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,679 Speaker 6: guy that can shoot some j's and and show like 521 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 6: a mid range game, but show an excitement that you 522 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 6: can get excited about. 523 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 3: And that's a Jahn Morrant. I think that's a Jahn Morant. 524 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 6: And he seems to have the personality, but he's got 525 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 6: to grow up if he's going to be that large 526 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 6: of a figure where he could transition, like I would 527 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,479 Speaker 6: make him comparable, Like he's a comp to AI, And 528 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 6: you know what, AI was revolutionary and evolutionary to the 529 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 6: NBA and to the game. AI had an impact on 530 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 6: and off the courts as basically an iconic legendary figure. 531 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 6: I think John Morant has that type of sweat. I 532 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 6: don't think he's a Lebron or Kobe or Mike, but 533 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 6: I do think that he is that that other like 534 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 6: that other, that other star. 535 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 4: I can see John Moritt winning the m V P 536 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 4: one day. 537 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 3: I can see that. I can see. I believe he's 538 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 3: that good of a player. I don't disagree with that. 539 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 3: I don't. I don't disagree with that at. 540 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 6: All, But I will say he's he's got to learn 541 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 6: to be an m v P off the off the 542 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 6: court as well. 543 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 3: He's got to be an m v P off the court. 544 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 4: I can't believe we actually agree on something basketball related. 545 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you know, I'm just saying. I'm just say 546 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 3: I was watching the Summer League. 547 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 6: There's a lot, like you know what's interesting, plex there 548 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 6: are a lot of really really gifted and talented players 549 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 6: that are coming into the league, like a lot. I 550 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 6: mean that the skill level, the talent level of these 551 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 6: players is pretty profound, and I think it's going to 552 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 6: be in in in like real like real time, real regard. 553 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 6: It's going to be harder for guys to separate themselves 554 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 6: to be a mega star with the amount of talent 555 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 6: and the type of talent that's coming into the league. 556 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 4: That's gonna be hard enough. Man, it is really getting tough. 557 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 4: If you look at some of those draft pick these 558 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 4: you know, a Men Thompson and the Stoop Twin brothers 559 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 4: that went five and six. What about their family life 560 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 4: changed like back to back. I mean that was just 561 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 4: that was just sick men. But just piggyback off what 562 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 4: you said. Man, watching this NBA Summer League and it's 563 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 4: only what thirteen fourteen slots on the NBA team, it 564 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 4: is tough, man, because everybody is trying to get to 565 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 4: be that next Lebron James, just like you said, Steph Curry, 566 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 4: Kobe Bryant, and the talent level is just it's unforgiving, 567 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 4: and you have to be really good these days to 568 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 4: make an NBA roster. And you look at these these 569 00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 4: guys in the summer league. What are these guys? Are 570 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 4: they all rookie's or G league players and there's no 571 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 4: guarantee that they're going to make an NBA roster. 572 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 3: I mean, it's correct. 573 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 4: It happens every summer, and you have to be at 574 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 4: your best in a short period of time to get 575 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 4: recognized by the head coach and that organization to put 576 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 4: you on that roster. And it's probably already nine or 577 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 4: ten guys that are slotted on the NBA roster before 578 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 4: you even get there. And now you competing with another 579 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 4: thirteen or fourteen guys on a summer league team to 580 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 4: make that five slot roster on the NBA team man, 581 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 4: and it is it is getting tough. 582 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 583 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 6: And then you got a Lebron James who's turning fifty 584 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 6: years old that that's still able to get up and 585 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 6: down the court. Don fifty there, he's not really turning 586 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 6: fifty years old. And neither is our man, Isaac lowin 587 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 6: Krown because he's. 588 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 3: A backwards baby. Let's get a trend date. What you got? 589 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 9: I lo oh right, you are fellas and we'll go 590 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 9: backwards in history because it was made at Wimbledon today 591 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 9: in the ladies singles final by unseated Marquette von Drusiva 592 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 9: against six seed ons Jibor. 593 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 2: Championship point for the world number forty two down the center, 594 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 2: the backhound return just about clear thanet Jabot. 595 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 3: With the attective boss. 596 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 2: It's a folly winner, Lamar Ketzevon Drusiva. It's a stunning achievement. 597 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 9: The first unseated woman to win the Wimbledon title and 598 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 9: only the third all time. Boris Becker did it in 599 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 9: nineteen eighty five. On the men's side, Goron Ivanissovitch did 600 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 9: it in two thousand and one is Von Drusiva won 601 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 9: in straight sets over the sixth seed Jabor six four 602 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 9: sixty four. In Major League Baseball on Friday night, the 603 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 9: Houston Astros defeated the Los Angeles Angels in Anaheim seven 604 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 9: to five. Angels on a six game losing streak. The 605 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 9: Colorado Rockies over the New York Yankee seven to two. 606 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 9: It's the latest in a season that the Yankees have 607 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 9: been tied for last place since nineteen ninety two. Kitting 608 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 9: I wish I was the Boston Red Sox had six 609 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 9: home runs adding insult to injury and an eighty three 610 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 9: win over the Cubs at Wrigley Boston on a six 611 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 9: game winning streak and finally fellas on Thursday. Newly signed 612 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 9: inter Miami soccer superstar Leonel Messi went viral when he 613 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 9: went shopping at a public's grocery store in Miami. Well, yesterday, 614 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 9: Messi caused another stir when he ran a red light 615 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,479 Speaker 9: and nearly got into a collision with another car. And 616 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 9: if you can believe it, when it happened, his commute 617 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 9: was being televised live back in his native Argentina on 618 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 9: an all sports TV network called Tyic Sports. Listen to 619 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 9: this and you really need no translation for me? 620 00:33:52,520 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 10: Then no, no, no, no, WHOA. 621 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 3: Don't find out anybody. 622 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 9: So we really need to step up our game in 623 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,879 Speaker 9: this country. We need to start televising the commute's home 624 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 9: of our superstar athletes. 625 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 3: I mean that's insane. Man. They was really into it too. 626 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 3: I understood a few of the words. Think about this. 627 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 4: I don't know televising they are televising him riding bruh. 628 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 3: Any dude that turns out what what? He turned out? 629 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 3: One six billion? Yeah? Man, everybody got turned down that 630 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 3: for what thirty four? 631 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 6: What was it? Fifty million? Here the dude would to 632 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,399 Speaker 6: published like he's just a regular guy. He's he is 633 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:57,839 Speaker 6: the guy. Who does he think we're talking about? Well, 634 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 6: I'll tell you what. On the other side of the break, 635 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 6: we're gonna talk a little best team, best team of 636 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 6: the year. What was your choice? Did they get it right? 637 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 6: In the SPS? This is up on game. That's Plexico 638 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 6: Burst Stretched Armstrong. Otherwise I'm LeVar Arrington. Man, I guess 639 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,360 Speaker 6: I should use King of the Mammals. I guess I 640 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:24,879 Speaker 6: am King of the Mammals. Uh yeah, this Fox Sports Radio. 641 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 6: We're gonna take a quick break. We'll be right back. 642 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 643 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 644 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 645 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 1: listen live. 646 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 11: Hey, it's Ben, host of the Fifth Hour with Ben 647 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:43,799 Speaker 11: Maller with me and a lot to have you join 648 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 11: us on our weekly auditory journey dress. What in God's 649 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 11: name is the Fifth Hour? I'll tell you it's a 650 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 11: spin off of it. Ben Maler show a Colt hit 651 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 11: overnights on FSR. Why should you listen? Picture if you 652 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 11: will a world will? We chat with captains of industry 653 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 11: in media, sports and more every week explore some amazing facts. 654 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 3: About the human nature and more. 655 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 11: Listen to the Fifth Hour with Ben Maller on the 656 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 11: iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcast. 657 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 4: Oh man, we got the good gems going on this 658 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:12,880 Speaker 4: Saturday minue. That's what I'm talking about. 659 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,360 Speaker 3: We got back there on the ones and twos. Sam 660 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 3: on the Board, Sam, Sam, I. 661 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 4: Am welcome back into up on Game Live from the 662 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:29,920 Speaker 4: Tiereck dot com studio. It is I Plexical Burrs alongside 663 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 4: Stick City to the Place Hall College Hall of Fame, 664 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 4: LeVar Airing. 665 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:41,399 Speaker 3: Thank you man, thank you Yeah. Yeah. Uh so pretty cool. 666 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:42,919 Speaker 3: You're you're your man. 667 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 6: Quinn Williams, uh big, big time major contract. Uh just done, 668 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:53,800 Speaker 6: got is extended with the Jets. He will be joining 669 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,799 Speaker 6: us in the next hour. That is correct, you heard 670 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 6: it correctly. 671 00:36:58,040 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 3: Uh. 672 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 6: But you we will talk to the big Q dog 673 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 6: week in the next out. Yeah. But before we get 674 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 6: to the next hour, we got to wrap up this 675 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:14,799 Speaker 6: hour and the Chiefs they won best team at at 676 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:18,360 Speaker 6: the SP's. Now, a lot of people I saw a 677 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 6: lot of feedback and a lot of blowback that it 678 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,840 Speaker 6: should have been the Denver Nuggets, and I gotta say 679 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 6: I agree, And just from my perspective, I think the 680 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:34,560 Speaker 6: reason why I agree, stretch is because the Denver Nuggets 681 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:39,880 Speaker 6: have never won a title in basketball in Denver. Kansas 682 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 6: City has, and Kansas City has done it with the 683 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:47,480 Speaker 6: same coach and the same quarterback that that got it 684 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 6: this year. I mean, to me, I thought that it 685 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 6: would have made a lot of sense that, you know, 686 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,240 Speaker 6: bucking all the odds and ending up being on top 687 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,240 Speaker 6: of the NBA at at the end of the SAS 688 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 6: and the way they did it, I kind of felt 689 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,359 Speaker 6: as though it should have been Denver that that got 690 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 6: the award. 691 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, man, no doubt about it. I mean, kudos to 692 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey any read in the Kansas 693 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 4: City Organization man for what they've been able to do. 694 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 4: But just like you said, I just think that the 695 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 4: way the Denver Nuggets went about winning their World championship 696 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 4: and sweeping the Los Angeles Lakers, nobody picked the Denver 697 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:35,239 Speaker 4: Nuggets to even get to the Western Conference finals. And 698 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 4: just like you said, the Jokers boring to watch. But 699 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:44,719 Speaker 4: I'm just it just it baffles me at how they 700 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:49,240 Speaker 4: cannot be the best team, you know, in the espies 701 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 4: if my memory serves me correctly, when we went to 702 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 4: the SBS in O seven, we didn't win best team either. 703 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:03,279 Speaker 4: We won Bigger It's upset and uh, the Boston selves 704 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:07,359 Speaker 4: and KG and and Rondo and Paul piss they won 705 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 4: the best team, which I thought we were the best team. 706 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,120 Speaker 4: I could be a little bit biased, but I do 707 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,239 Speaker 4: understand that everybody that gets invited basically is going to 708 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 4: win an award. You just don't know which one is 709 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 4: gonna be. But definitely, Uh, the first NBA championship in 710 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,840 Speaker 4: dem the nugget history to win in this in the 711 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:29,959 Speaker 4: manner that they did. 712 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:31,280 Speaker 3: Uh. 713 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 4: The Miami Heat won one game out of out of 714 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 4: the out of the series, pretty dominant, and they basically 715 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:46,640 Speaker 4: lost one game in the last two series and it 716 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 4: was just dumb. So they definitely should have won the award. Yeah, man, 717 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 4: I tend to think that that was the case. But 718 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:57,799 Speaker 4: but okay, now, then that now leads me to the 719 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 4: next question or or kind of like a spin off 720 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,359 Speaker 4: to it is if that's any other market, if that's 721 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 4: the Lakers and Lebron. 722 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 3: James won, is it? You know? 723 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:11,319 Speaker 6: I think that you know, they would have won all 724 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 6: the awards probably, so they would have won biggest Upset, 725 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 6: best team, most likely to succeed, best smile, that's everything, everything, 726 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:29,080 Speaker 6: that's everything. Best meet me after the after the awards. Yeah, man, 727 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 6: best meet me at the bar. 728 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 4: They don't want everything, man, they would have won it all, 729 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:45,320 Speaker 4: you know, they would have. That's come on, man. Yeah, yeah, 730 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 4: well that is what it is. 731 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,960 Speaker 6: And I listen shots out to the Chiefs and shots 732 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,880 Speaker 6: out to the NFL and standing up against other sports, 733 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,799 Speaker 6: especially the NBA, and still being able to be what 734 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 6: it ended up being. But but I digress. Well, we're 735 00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 6: gonna take a quick break. That's the end of the 736 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,960 Speaker 6: first hour. That's Plexico Burst. I'm LeVar Arrington, T J. 737 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 6: Huschman Zade is out. This is up on game yeah, 738 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 6: and we're gonna take a quick break. But on the 739 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 6: other side of it, we're gonna get back to it. 740 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,680 Speaker 6: Quinn Williams coming up in hour two, so make sure 741 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,239 Speaker 6: you stayed locked in and dialed in. 742 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,720 Speaker 3: It'd be great to hear from him. We'll be right 743 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 3: back