Speaker 1: Welcome to the Best of the Week for What's Right
Speaker 1: with Nick Right the best takes and moments from this
Speaker 1: week on the show. Enjoy. Let's get to the annual
Speaker 1: the Bill's annual super Bowl, their regular season game against
Speaker 1: the Chiefs.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, it is super Bowl week over there in
Speaker 2: Buffalo and Buffalo's home home dogs this time. I know what,
Speaker 2: what do you think we're gonna learn more from? Or
Speaker 2: which team do you think we're gonna learn more from
Speaker 2: in this game?
Speaker 1: So a lot here, right, and the Bill's likely without
Speaker 1: Ed Oliver, which is brutal for them. The Chiefs definitely
Speaker 1: without their starting left tackle Josh Simmons. I do expect
Speaker 1: him back, by the way in November, but he's not
Speaker 1: going to be there for this game. Trey Smith should
Speaker 1: be back, which is important. Those are the maybe most
Speaker 1: noteworthy injuries or absences for the Bills. The real question
Speaker 1: to me is can this defense slow down what has
Speaker 1: become the most with respect to the Colts, the most
Speaker 1: prolific offense in the NFL. Is that that's the question
Speaker 1: for Buffalo and for Kansas City. It is actually a
Speaker 1: similar question in this regard, which is the Chiefs have
Speaker 1: the defense the last two weeks has been unbelievable. But
Speaker 1: you're playing Mariota and you're playing the Raiders when they
Speaker 1: have played legitimate quarterbacks. Those teams have moved the ball. Now, listen,
Speaker 1: the Lions only scored seventeen points, but they moved the ball.
Speaker 1: The Prince and the Jags moved the ball. Baltimore in
Speaker 1: the three quarters Lamar play moved the ball. Philly actually
Speaker 1: struggled a bit moving the ball, but the Chargers moved
Speaker 1: the ball. So this Chiefs defense can't generate enough of
Speaker 1: a pass rush without having to send blitz after blitz
Speaker 1: after blitz to disrupt Josh Allen. So those are the
Speaker 1: real The focus is going to be on Allen and Mahomes,
Speaker 1: But as far as learning more about either of these teams,
Speaker 1: it's going to be more about the defensive side of
Speaker 1: the game. But I will also say this, if I
Speaker 1: were just to name a few Bill Simmons or Mike
Speaker 1: Greenberg or Jim Rome or Joe Montana or Steven Ruiz
Speaker 1: or Dominique Foxworth, some of these people are my good
Speaker 1: friends or colleague or Colin Cowhert m mentor and dear
Speaker 1: dear friend, any of a dozen people who in September
Speaker 1: or August definitively declared that the best quarterback in football
Speaker 1: is Josh Allen. I'd be a little nervous this week
Speaker 1: because twenty some million people are going to watch the
Speaker 1: Chiefs go to Buffalo and what very well might be
Speaker 1: the last time Mahomes and Allen ever play in that stadium,
Speaker 1: and I think they're going to watch Patrick put on
Speaker 1: an absolute masterclass. And I understand that it was very
Speaker 1: in vogue, as it is every September, and again, I
Speaker 1: have been very complimentary of Josh the last couple of years,
Speaker 1: but it was very in vogue to just flatly assert, oh,
Speaker 1: Josh Allen's the best player in the league after the
Speaker 1: first few weeks of the season, and since then he's
Speaker 1: been good, but not great. The team has been just
Speaker 1: fine since that three and zero start two and two,
Speaker 1: and right now this year, the only win the Bills
Speaker 1: have to hang their hat on is a Ravens win.
Speaker 1: That Ravens win that has not I guess I think
Speaker 1: it's fair to say aged amazingly because the Ravens were
Speaker 1: such a mess the first six weeks of the year.
Speaker 1: And this gets us to demons the rivalry question, So
Speaker 1: go ahead, I'll let you yes.
Speaker 2: Like, like you said, this is going to be the
Speaker 2: tenth time that they face each other, So what would
Speaker 2: Allen need to do in this game for it to
Speaker 2: be considered a rivalry or a true rivalry.
Speaker 1: So I under it is a rivalry. I want to like,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's not a rivalry. It's the two
Speaker 1: best quarterbacks in the league. And it is two of
Speaker 1: the three best teams in the league over the last
Speaker 1: five years. I don't think you can call it the
Speaker 1: two best teams in the league because I think you
Speaker 1: have to get Philadelphia. It's credit, they've been to two
Speaker 1: Super Bowls, they've won one, But it is It is
Speaker 1: unlike any rivalry we've seen in NFL history, where despite
Speaker 1: the fact that the teams are you know, in any
Speaker 1: given year, even or one guy just has a slight advantage.
Speaker 1: Early on, when they were playing, the Chiefs clearly had
Speaker 1: the better offensive weapons. The Bills clearly had the better defense.
Speaker 1: The last couple of years, the Bills probably had the
Speaker 1: better offensive weapons, offensive line, running back, core tight ends,
Speaker 1: you know, and the Chiefs might have actually had the
Speaker 1: better defense. And on one team has consistently won the
Speaker 1: regular season matchups, and one team has won every single
Speaker 1: one of the postseason matchups. And it is and I,
Speaker 1: you know, ranted about this on the TV show yesterday,
Speaker 1: so I don't have to spend too much time on
Speaker 1: it here. But people so badly wanted to be Brady
Speaker 1: Peyton and it has just been nothing like Brady Peyton,
Speaker 1: and it's maddening to me. Brady Peyton.
Speaker 2: Was.
Speaker 1: Peyton was the guy with the multiple MVPs. Peyton was
Speaker 1: the guy with the crazy stats, and Brady was the
Speaker 1: one with the rings in this instance. And by the way,
Speaker 1: Peyton in their third playoff matchup beat Brady, and in
Speaker 1: their fourth playoff matchup beat Brady, and in their fifth
Speaker 1: and final playoff matchup beat Brady. Fact that nobody seems
Speaker 1: to remember but me is Peyton finished the Brady Peyton
Speaker 1: playoff rivalry with a winning record. He was one and
Speaker 1: two with the Colts and two and zero with the Broncos.
Speaker 1: But set that aside Josh and Patrick, Josh is the
Speaker 1: Patrick is the one with multiple MVPs. Patrick is the
Speaker 1: one with the gaudier stats, and Patrick is the only
Speaker 1: one that's ever won, so it is far closer to
Speaker 1: Jordan Ewing or Lebron Toronto than it is bird Magic
Speaker 1: or Peyton Brady. What are you laughing at?
Speaker 2: Le Bron Toronto is crazy?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's what it's been. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: what that they even when Toronto had the better regular
Speaker 1: season record than Cleveland, even when they were the favorite
Speaker 1: in the series, which people will pretend didn't happen.
Speaker 2: But twenty eighteen what Mahomes has always had the gaudier stats.
Speaker 2: I feel like some years Josh Allen has beating Patrick
Speaker 2: Mahomes out.
Speaker 1: No. I mean, last year Josh was literally League MVP,
Speaker 1: and the year before Josh had better individual numbers. But
Speaker 1: I'm talking about for the totality of their careers. Patrick
Speaker 1: has more passing yards, more touchdowns, fewer turnovers, a higher
Speaker 1: passer rating and no, no, no, the last two years Josh
Speaker 1: has had the the better numbers, and the last two
Speaker 1: years they've played in the playoffs, once in Josh's building,
Speaker 1: once in Patrick's. The last two years, Josh has had
Speaker 1: the ball in his hands less than five minutes, remaining
Speaker 1: down three points, chance to go slay the dragon, and
Speaker 1: the last two years the Bills have walked off the
Speaker 1: field getting zero points from those drives and the chief celebrate.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's just what's happened. And so I just
Speaker 1: people so badly want Patrick to have peer and he
Speaker 1: just doesn't at this point. And as far as can
Speaker 1: this game change that, no could They would the Bills
Speaker 1: beating the Chiefs in the playoffs finally change that? Sure,
Speaker 1: but we're far a long way from it. All right,
Speaker 1: let's talk MVP.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, how far do you think that this game
Speaker 2: will go and decide in the MVP? Well, and also
Speaker 2: another follow up on this, could the loser still be
Speaker 2: eligible for v Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean again, we do too much. It's week
Speaker 1: eight or we just finished Week eight. A lot of
Speaker 1: people are still eligible for MVP. They're not knocked out
Speaker 1: of it here. But Josh's MVP case right now to
Speaker 1: me is very shaky. And listen, I was on the
Speaker 1: record throughout last season that I thought at the end
Speaker 1: of last season he was the MVP. But right now
Speaker 1: this moment, Josh's team has a good but not great record.
Speaker 1: But that's the same with Patrick. They both have five wins.
Speaker 1: Josh is, however, twentieth in the NFL in passing yards.
Speaker 1: He is tied for fourteenth in the NFL in passing touchdowns.
Speaker 1: He is ninth in the NFL in passer rating. And
Speaker 1: you can say, well, you know we've got to and
Speaker 1: we do have to give Josh credit for the rushing
Speaker 1: piece of it. So he's rushed for two hundred and
Speaker 1: sixty yards and has rushed for five touchdowns. The touchdowns
Speaker 1: more impressive than the yards. Obviously, on that note, Josh
Speaker 1: has not up to this point played like an MVP,
Speaker 1: and the point I was making earlier after he was
Speaker 1: unbelievable in that Ravens game, and he was unbelievable in
Speaker 1: the Dolphins game. That was the game after the Dolphins
Speaker 1: game when Mike Greenberg said he's never seen anyone play
Speaker 1: the position better than Josh Allen. Since those three game,
Speaker 1: those opening three weeks, he's been mediocre. Against the Saints,
Speaker 1: threw for two hundred yards, two touchdowns and a pick
Speaker 1: against the Patriots and a loss. Threw for two touchdowns
Speaker 1: or two touchdowns, one pick and two hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: three yards against the Falcons and a loss. Was bad
Speaker 1: two touchdowns, two picks at seventy three rating one hundred
Speaker 1: and eighty yards. And against the Panthers last week didn't
Speaker 1: have to do anything, and I mean they won forty
Speaker 1: to nine. You don't hold it against him. He threw
Speaker 1: for one hundred and sixty yards. So it is right
Speaker 1: now if we were talking NFL MVP as far as
Speaker 1: not projection demons on who's going to win it, but
Speaker 1: on who if the award were given out, if we
Speaker 1: had a mid season MVP, better candidates than Josh would
Speaker 1: be Drake May, who honestly I think would be the
Speaker 1: mid season MVP. I think right now this moment, Drake
Speaker 1: May has you could argue has been the MVP. Drake
Speaker 1: has a better case. Jonathan Taylor, if we're going to
Speaker 1: open it up to running backs, has a better case.
Speaker 3: Matthew Stafford fly isn't Baker like I know, he got
Speaker 3: knocked out, but given the totality his his season has
Speaker 3: been Yes, cool, if not better than Josh Allen's.
Speaker 1: Up to this point, yes, I And so the right now,
Speaker 1: if again, if we're voted on right now, my my
Speaker 1: top five would be Drake, Stafford, Taylor, Baker and Patrick
Speaker 1: And then I think you well, I'm going with Jonathan
Speaker 1: Taylor as the MVP of that team. If it's a
Speaker 1: quarterback only then Daniel Jones would have to be involved.
Speaker 1: Jared Goff some would argue, and Jalen hurts. I wouldn't argue,
Speaker 1: But the twenty touchdowns to two turnovers, something else, and
Speaker 1: the insane passer rating, you know, with something else. It's
Speaker 1: just his yards are so low. It's a tough one.
Speaker 1: But all those guys set Jalen aside because it's such
Speaker 1: a unique case, have stronger MVP cases at this moment
Speaker 1: than Josh. Uh. All right, let's a couple more questions
Speaker 1: on this.
Speaker 2: So you joked on Tuesday Show that if the Chiefs
Speaker 2: lost the or won the regular season matchup, that they
Speaker 2: might be in jeopardy to lose the postseason matchup. Are
Speaker 2: you all worried about that with this game coming?
Speaker 1: Well, here's what I find really interesting. This is the
Speaker 1: first time these two teams since Patrick and Josh have
Speaker 1: been there are playing in the regular season with neither
Speaker 1: one of them in first in their own division. Usually
Speaker 1: both are in first. This is the only time that
Speaker 1: neither's been in first. And I do feel that the
Speaker 1: Chiefs historically have had an edge in the playoff matchup
Speaker 1: against Buffalo Demonse because Buffalo goes all out for that
Speaker 1: regular season game, and the Chiefs to me, have a
Speaker 1: pretty vanilla game plan. They obviously want to win and
Speaker 1: they've been important games, but a pretty vanilla game plan
Speaker 1: and try to use that regular season game as a
Speaker 1: scouting opportunity for the postseason game. I don't know that
Speaker 1: Kansas City or Buffalo for that matter, really has that
Speaker 1: luxury this matchup because neither one of these teams say
Speaker 1: it again.
Speaker 2: Oh, I was gonna assume with folks being hurt, like
Speaker 2: you can't.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, it's because both of these teams are in
Speaker 1: a real divisional fight. Neither one of these teams wants
Speaker 1: to be a wild card. Since Josh and Patrick have
Speaker 1: been there, they've never neither one of them ever has
Speaker 1: been a wild card like and so that where you
Speaker 1: have to start the postseason on the road. Both of
Speaker 1: these teams, I'm sure believe they are still very alive
Speaker 1: for the number one seed. The Chiefs get to play
Speaker 1: the Colts. That. I don't think the Bills and Colts
Speaker 1: play each other, do they?
Speaker 2: They don't say both of them are going to be
Speaker 2: going going as I would think.
Speaker 1: I yeah, because it's the Chiefs lose this game. I
Speaker 1: mean they'll be going into Week ten to seven seed.
Speaker 1: The Bills lose this game and New England takes an
Speaker 1: even stronger hold on the division.
Speaker 2: So it is.
Speaker 1: It's a super important spot for both teams. And I
Speaker 1: am pleasantly surprised that the Chiefs are road favorites, like
Speaker 1: we've seen the Bills come to Arrowhead and the Bills
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Speaker 2: Let's talk about Lebar Jackson and how it seems that
Speaker 2: Baltimore amount of lied on their injury report. You know,
Speaker 2: we've got the whole thing going on with the NBA
Speaker 2: right now, so it's a sensitive time. But you think
Speaker 2: that everybody's missing the real story and this debacle? What
Speaker 2: what was?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so listen, I don't I understand why of all
Speaker 1: the weeks to be like, oh, our bad our quarterback
Speaker 1: that we said was a full participant was actually limited
Speaker 1: and he didn't take any reps with the ones. He
Speaker 1: was actually out with the scout team, and that everybody
Speaker 1: thinks he's playing is not playing. Why this was the
Speaker 1: worst week imaginable to make that mistake From a conspiratorial perspective,
Speaker 1: I understand that, but I do not think that's the story.
Speaker 1: I think that's secondary to the story, and the story
Speaker 1: is I believe the Ravens lied on the injury report
Speaker 1: not to get a competitive advantage, but they lied on
Speaker 1: the injury report as a way to pressure Lamar Jackson
Speaker 1: into playing and this demands follows a pattern, and I
Speaker 1: am going to lay it all out for you with
Speaker 1: John Harbaugh's own words in twin. And keep in mind,
Speaker 1: Lamar has no agent, Lamar is self represented. There's mom
Speaker 1: does it. And the reason I say that is because
Speaker 1: whenever you hear reports about Lamar's status, it only can
Speaker 1: come from the team. He doesn't have an agent feeding
Speaker 1: rap reporter schefter stuff and so. And by the way,
Speaker 1: can we please get just a sidebark? Can we please
Speaker 1: get real news at some point? Again, I mean we
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz evidently has been at a broken entire left
Speaker 1: side of his body for three weeks, not reported anywhere.
Speaker 1: Trayvon Diggs it suffered a concussion at home that has
Speaker 1: now put him on the IR We have no info
Speaker 1: about it. Lamar Jackson, nobody had a clue he might
Speaker 1: actually miss time and didn't really practice until Saturday morning.
Speaker 1: And yet in place of that, instead of getting that
Speaker 1: real info, what we get is the same five people
Speaker 1: racing to publish the exact same information seconds ahead of
Speaker 1: each other about extensions and undrafted free agents signing with
Speaker 1: practice squads, with agents cited, and agencies credited, it's just gross.
Speaker 1: And you also, I like, you saw it again yesterday
Speaker 1: with with who is it that? Oh uh, what's his name?
Speaker 1: The great Sir Tan, Sir Tan, Sir Tan got hurt
Speaker 1: and Jordan Schultz, to his credit, had it first and
Speaker 1: it's like, hey, this is multi week four to six weeks.
Speaker 1: Maybe I are is a question and then we get
Speaker 1: this and this might seem unfair, but from one of
Speaker 1: the you know, biggest insiders, Patcher Tan, the reigning defensive
Speaker 1: player of the Year, suffered a pecking strain in the
Speaker 1: win over the Cowboys. He's considered weak to weak and
Speaker 1: could land on IR But solid news what that's not
Speaker 1: solid again? That's not a positive news story. It sucks.
Speaker 1: It's football. There's injuries. But everything doesn't have to be
Speaker 1: framed as avoiding catastrophe. Better than expected. The team is relieved.
Speaker 1: If everything is better than expected, then nothing is better
Speaker 1: than expected. But I digress to go to the Harball
Speaker 1: Ravens thing, a Harball Lamar Thing twenty twenty one. Lamar
Speaker 1: hurts his ankle Week fourteen, John Harbass says about him
Speaker 1: playing Week fifteen again, there are games Week fifteen, sixteen
Speaker 1: seventeen eighteen about him playing Week fifteen, I'd say he
Speaker 1: has a chance. It's one of those things. It's an
Speaker 1: ankle spring. If he starts feeling good and everything is
Speaker 1: all right, we'll check him out, probably pregame. So Harbaugh's
Speaker 1: saying he's going to be a true game time decision.
Speaker 1: He's in all the preparations and all of that. We'll
Speaker 1: see where we're at. Lamar did not play again that season,
Speaker 1: and then after the year, John Harbaugh says, quote, Lamar
Speaker 1: felt like he was going to be back. The first week,
Speaker 1: he thought he had a chance. The second week he
Speaker 1: assured me, he said, I'll be back. He missed four
Speaker 1: straight weeks. Then next year, Lamar gets hurt in Week
Speaker 1: thirteen during the game. There are five games left plus
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Harbaugh says, it's not a season ending type
Speaker 1: of knee. Will get more tests tomorrow and let you
Speaker 1: know how long it's going to be. We'll see if
Speaker 1: he can go back. If he can go back this
Speaker 1: week for Week fourteen, if not, he'll be some time
Speaker 1: after that. Shortly, Lamar missed the rest of the regular season,
Speaker 1: missed five straight games. The Ravens schefter than reports because
Speaker 1: Ravens made the playoffs anyway that Lamar is expected to
Speaker 1: play in the playoff game according to sources. Again, there
Speaker 1: are no Lamar's sources other than the Ravens. Then misses
Speaker 1: the playoff game, and then if you remember tweets out
Speaker 1: about how it's a grade to almost a grade three
Speaker 1: PCL strain, and a lot of us, my self included,
Speaker 1: speculated I do with remember he didn't have a contract,
Speaker 1: that he was protecting himself because of the contract, which
Speaker 1: is totally reasonable. Then there's the hamstring injury this year.
Speaker 1: After the Rams game sixteen days ago, John Harbaugh was
Speaker 1: asked about Lamar about his optimism surrounding the team going
Speaker 1: into the buy and he said, quote, our quarterback is
Speaker 1: going to be back. That's probably a big one. And
Speaker 1: then Friday after practice, Harbaugh said, full practice today for Lamar,
Speaker 1: So that was good. There is only one way to
Speaker 1: read those sequence of events. That sequence of events. Lamar
Speaker 1: and the Ravens are consistently not on the same page
Speaker 1: about Lamar's injury timelines, and I believe the Ravens listed
Speaker 1: him as a full participant and talked about him as
Speaker 1: if it was a certainty that he was going to
Speaker 1: play on Sunday as a way to pressure him into playing,
Speaker 1: and then Saturday morning Lamar shut it all down. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying who's right and who's wrong in this. It's
Speaker 1: certainly in play. The Ravens are just far too optimistic,
Speaker 1: and it's in play that Lamar is the type of
Speaker 1: player who if he just doesn't feel close to one
Speaker 1: hundred percent, he doesn't feel comfortable going out there, so
Speaker 1: be it. I'm not judging any of that. I am
Speaker 1: saying failing to acknowledge that that is the clear cut
Speaker 1: inarguable history year is failing to just read the transcripts.
Speaker 1: And it is because of that demanse that I while
Speaker 1: I think Lamar is going to play Thursday night, I
Speaker 1: am not certain of it. And even though Harbass said
Speaker 1: yesterday it's full practice or expecting him to play, I
Speaker 1: don't think you.
Speaker 2: Can understand that. There's like you're saying, Lamar doesn't have
Speaker 2: an agent, but Lamar has somebody that's looking at his
Speaker 2: body when he goes to get checked on on the this
Speaker 2: type of stuff. Why are they not just talking into
Speaker 2: the Ravens. I'm kind of confused on why there's not
Speaker 2: just a doctor or somebody telling oh, he's out for
Speaker 2: X amount of weeks.
Speaker 1: Because what's pretty clear is to me because yeah, he
Speaker 1: has a doctor. It's the Ravens doctor. And Todd Munkin
Speaker 1: alluded to this a week ago about whether or not
Speaker 1: Lamar had been cleared. What is pretty clear, given Harbaugh's comments,
Speaker 1: is throughout all of these injuries and again, maybe the
Speaker 1: Ravens team doctor is doing a bad job, but he
Speaker 1: has been cleared to.
Speaker 2: Play each time, and he is.
Speaker 1: Saying I can't right, and that I think is frustrated
Speaker 1: has frustrated the Ravens over the years because it the
Speaker 1: way it works is this, you cannot play without the
Speaker 1: doctor clearing you. But once the doctor clears you, you
Speaker 1: then have to be comfortable to play, obviously, right, And
Speaker 1: I am reading this as a very obvious pattern of
Speaker 1: the doctor clearing him and him saying, no, I'm not
Speaker 1: comfortable playing. Again, maybe it's the Ravens team doctor issue.
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm really not banging on Lamar on this.
Speaker 1: I am saying that there is a clear disconnect between coach,
Speaker 1: medical staff, and player. Now, with all that said, Demonse,
Speaker 1: the Ravens are now the favorite to win the division
Speaker 1: and the Snoop Huntley saved their season, saw some performance.
Speaker 1: And if you look at their schedule coming up, and
Speaker 1: you look at the Bengals blowing a game, just blowing
Speaker 1: against the Jets, and the Steelers getting thoroughly outplayed by
Speaker 1: the Packers, you fully expect Monsey the Ravens to win
Speaker 1: their next four, correct.
Speaker 2: I mean they could win the rest of the games
Speaker 2: with yeah.
Speaker 1: The I mean, sure they could win any of those
Speaker 1: individual games, but you would be stunned if they lose
Speaker 1: any of the next four. At Miami Thursday night, at
Speaker 1: the Vikings, who are a mess, at the Browns, who
Speaker 1: have the worst offense in football, home for the Jets.
Speaker 1: So they should be six and five going into the
Speaker 1: meat of going into the stretch run, where in those
Speaker 1: final six weeks they have two games against the Bengals,
Speaker 1: two games again against the Steelers, a Packers game, and
Speaker 1: a Patriot game. And throw that schedule back up. They
Speaker 1: will be favored in every game they play until week seventeen.
Speaker 1: They will be favored obviously in all their home games,
Speaker 1: and they will be road favorites against Tua JJ McCarthy,
Speaker 1: whoever the Browns quarterback is at that point, and Joe
Speaker 1: Flackham and then they'll be so they've got a shot.
Speaker 1: Now here is a real scenario we've got on our hands,
Speaker 1: which would be hilarious. Let's say the Patriots have some
Speaker 1: gaudy record, which they cook. They're six and two already.
Speaker 1: Let's say that Patriots go twelve and five, and it's
Speaker 1: totally reasonable given I think the Patriots play one game
Speaker 1: the rest of the way against AFC teams currently in
Speaker 1: the playoff picture. Okay, they it's their second Bills game.
Speaker 1: So let's say they go twelve and five and win
Speaker 1: the AFC East, and the Bills also go twelve and five. Okay,
Speaker 1: but the Patriots win the AFC East. This is a tiebreaker,
Speaker 1: and the Ravens go eight and nine, but that's good
Speaker 1: enough to win the AFC North. They split with Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: they split with Pittsburgh, they lose the Packer game, and
Speaker 1: what's their record right now, two and five. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: whatever it is. They go eight and nine, but it's
Speaker 1: enough to win the AFC North. The Ravens, the eight
Speaker 1: and nine Ravens hosting in the playoffs, the twelve and
Speaker 1: five Buffalo Bills or the twelve and five New England Patriots,
Speaker 1: or the twelve and five Denver Broncos, or if I'm
Speaker 1: wrong about the Chiefs, the twelve and five, like the
Speaker 1: worst division winner, no matter the record, will host the
Speaker 1: best wildcard and the best wild card in the AFC
Speaker 1: this year is gonna have a great record. Be it
Speaker 1: the Pats, be it the Bills, be it the Chiefs,
Speaker 1: be it the Chargers, be it the Broncos. One of
Speaker 1: those teams is gonna win eleven, maybe twelve games and
Speaker 1: have to go to an eight or nine win Baltimore
Speaker 1: or Cincinnati or Pittsburgh, and it's just what's gonna happen
Speaker 1: and so hard, all right? Flip side is the Bears game.
Speaker 2: The Bears, Caleb made some more errors that Ravens defense
Speaker 2: that everybody's been talking trash about. They looked pretty good,
Speaker 2: well he has.
Speaker 1: People were talking trash or they were just watching it.
Speaker 2: They've been bad, they've they've been pretty bad. But yeah,
Speaker 2: how many more errors or how long were you give
Speaker 2: Caleb before you give up on him?
Speaker 1: Well I'm not going to give up on him anytime soon.
Speaker 1: But he wasn't good. I mean I'm not going to
Speaker 1: act like he was good. And that was a huge
Speaker 1: missed opportunity for them, for him and for them, and
Speaker 1: you'd like to give him a pass, be like, oh,
Speaker 1: they were on a four game winning streak, they were
Speaker 1: bound to lose, but you can't losing that game in
Speaker 1: that fashion to Tyler Huntley and Caleb playing that mediocre
Speaker 1: is a huge disappointment. Now, I still think, as I
Speaker 1: was saying when I was doing the playoff picture before,
Speaker 1: they're super live. Right now, they're in eighth place, and
Speaker 1: I think San Francisco is going to be trending in
Speaker 1: the wrong direction, and their next to Demanse. Their next three,
Speaker 1: I should say, are Bengals, Giants, Vikings. So the Bears
Speaker 1: should be seven and three. They should be seven and
Speaker 1: three going into a really tough stretch of games. And so,
Speaker 1: but Caleb's got to play better. There's no way around it.
Speaker 1: Caleb flaty has to play better.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: And I think at this point, I think everybody can
Speaker 1: acknowledge and accept.
Speaker 2: That Chicago or committed to Caleb or Ben Johnson.
Speaker 1: He's fully committed to both. I mean, the thing is this,
Speaker 1: Ben took the job because of Caleb, so the he
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Speaker 1: Terms of course do apply. Here are my five picks
Speaker 1: this week.
Speaker 2: First pick is Detroit minus eight and a half going
Speaker 2: up against Minnesota Golf.
Speaker 1: Evidently's eight to zero against the spread against the Vikings
Speaker 1: in his Lions career. The Lions are on extended rest.
Speaker 1: Minnesota right now might be a total man. Yes, I
Speaker 1: think the Lions defense, which against bad quarterbacks, really can
Speaker 1: get after you. Could give JJ McCarthy hell. And we
Speaker 1: don't know if JJ McCarthy, how hurt was he or
Speaker 1: how much were they hiding him. And what we do
Speaker 1: know about the Lions, The Lions love pouring it on.
Speaker 1: The Lions love annihilating teams, and so I don't mind
Speaker 1: laying the eight and a half points. I love the
Speaker 1: Lions in this spot. One of maybe my favorite play
Speaker 1: of the week. It's the first one, Detroit minus eight
Speaker 1: and a half.
Speaker 2: Yeah, never been so sure about minus eight and a
Speaker 2: half spread. I'm very confident in that one, Pittsburgh plus
Speaker 2: three versus Indy.
Speaker 1: So I'm very you saying you're very confident in that
Speaker 1: one you're getting on I am no, no, no, not
Speaker 1: at all. I'm just curious if that means it's gonna
Speaker 1: be the Detroit honeyline. Is going to be a leg
Speaker 1: of your teaser?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because you like eight.
Speaker 1: Point teasers and if you like them, minus eight and
Speaker 1: a half like that, to me is a pretty good
Speaker 1: for your eight point teaser. Pretty good teaser leg a
Speaker 1: good all right. Pittsburgh plus three against Indy, Tomlin at home,
Speaker 1: getting at least a field goal with all these numbers,
Speaker 1: we win against them last week Green Bay. We said
Speaker 1: we didn't care, and we were right. We're going back
Speaker 1: with them this week. Awful lot loss. Tomlin's sixty one
Speaker 1: and forty seven against the spread. They're twenty five and
Speaker 1: fifteen against the spread as an underdog off and outright loss,
Speaker 1: and twelve and four against the spread as a home
Speaker 1: dog off a straight up loss. Tomlin twenty two eight
Speaker 1: and three UH as a home dog against the spread. Now,
Speaker 1: the Steelers defense against that offense does worry you a bit,
Speaker 1: but Rogers has been good again. I'm getting three points.
Speaker 1: I don't feel spectacular about this from having watched that
Speaker 1: Steelers defense over the course of season and watched the
Speaker 1: Colts offense. But there is just all of Tomlin's history
Speaker 1: says if you're giving him at least three points at home,
Speaker 1: he doesn't loose. He covers. That was the case last week,
Speaker 1: and he didn't and we sniffed it out. I don't
Speaker 1: think it's gonna happen back to back. I like Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: plus three next.
Speaker 2: Dan Francisco minus two and a half going in because
Speaker 2: the Giants.
Speaker 1: I listen, this is just a play that the Giant
Speaker 1: season ended with the blown game to Denver, and last
Speaker 1: week they got bullied by the Eagles, and they lost
Speaker 1: another key player in Scataboo due to injuries. So no Skataboo,
Speaker 1: no neighbors. Weird noise this week surrounding their d line
Speaker 1: with Carl Banks calling out Dexter Lawrence, with Thibodeau potentially
Speaker 1: being on the trade block. I think the Giants are
Speaker 1: floundering a bit. I don't really think it matters which
Speaker 1: Niners quarterback plays. All lay the two and a half
Speaker 1: with the Giants going east coast to west coast. All
Speaker 1: lay the two and a half with San Francisco next.
Speaker 2: Who would have thought you got the Chiefs midst one
Speaker 2: and a half at Buffalo.
Speaker 1: Listen. I just think the Chiefs are the best team
Speaker 1: in the league, and I'm laying less than a field goal.
Speaker 1: This is the sharp side is going to say. I
Speaker 1: would imagine getting points with the Bills at home. You
Speaker 1: have to do it. I don't care about that. And
Speaker 1: a lot of Mahomes is against the spread, grizzly against
Speaker 1: the spread. Numbers of the last few years have to
Speaker 1: do with the Chiefs being big favorites. They are not
Speaker 1: big favorites here, They're tiny favorites. I think the Chiefs
Speaker 1: win by at least a field goal. I'll lay the
Speaker 1: point and a half and last one. This is the
Speaker 1: one I added when I took out Cowboys.
Speaker 2: Yes, Seattle to minus three at Washington.
Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, I don't love the West coast to east. However,
Speaker 1: Washington is banged up, the defense has been bad. I
Speaker 1: do think Jaden's gonna play. But I think Seattle is
Speaker 1: one of the more underrated teams in the league right now.
Speaker 1: And Seattle is one of the only teams that going
Speaker 1: west coast to east actually helps them as far as
Speaker 1: covering seventeen eight and two over the last basically basically
Speaker 1: half decade when they're playing on the East coast. I
Speaker 1: think Seattle's really good. I think Washington is bad and injured.
Speaker 1: I'll take Seattle minus three. So we are going to
Speaker 1: Monte with four favorites. We are going with Detroit laying
Speaker 1: eight and a half against Minnesota, San Francisco laying two
Speaker 1: and a half against the Giants, Kansas City laying one
Speaker 1: and a half at Buffalo, Seattle laying three at Washington,
Speaker 1: and the one dog is Pittsburgh plus three at home
Speaker 1: against the seven and one Indianapolis Colts,