1 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan Mink 2 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 1: here with Garrett Downing to give you our initial reaction 3 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: to the Ravens Big bit thirty to twenty three win 4 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: over the Los Angeles Chargers on Monday Night Football. Just 5 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 1: a huge win for the Ravens, getting them to eight 6 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: and four. Their half game back the Steelers sets them 7 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: up really well in the AFC North Race. This is 8 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: a race, let me tell you, it's a tight one, 9 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: and just a big win, bouncing back from that loss 10 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh against a very good Chargers team. 11 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that this was significant on multiple levels. 12 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 2: The playoff seeding piece is one kind of obvious component 13 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:48,919 Speaker 2: of it. You're going up against a team that you're 14 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 2: competing with for AFC playoff positioning and especially that wildcard 15 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,639 Speaker 2: element of it. And I also think that just really 16 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 2: big picture for this team. They're coming off that difficult 17 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 2: loss against Pittsburgh, and then everyone starts whatever. You lose 18 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 2: a game, especially when you have the hopes and the 19 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 2: expectations that the Ravens do. The sky is falling every Monday, 20 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 2: every whatever. After a loss, the sky is falling, and 21 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 2: so to be able to weather that storm and to 22 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 2: go on the road to face a red hot team, 23 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 2: against a ton of guys, you know, the hardball ball, 24 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 2: all those things like, to be able to weather that 25 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 2: storm and go there and win pretty convincingly, I think 26 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 2: is just another sign that this Ravens team is one 27 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 2: of the best in the league. And they showed it 28 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 2: again tonight. 29 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely agree. I think that. Yeah, like you said, 30 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: I think there can be a lot of questions coming 31 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 1: off such a stinker in Pittsburgh, and it's all right, 32 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: are the Ravens for real? Are they real Super Bowl contenders? 33 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: And this proves once again that yes, absolutely are. When 34 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: you can go on the road to win a game 35 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: like this against a really good team, yeah, you're among 36 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: the cream of the crop in the AFC. And hey, 37 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: the Ravens still gotta keep getting better and they have 38 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: a lot of tough games to win, but this one, 39 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: like I said at the beginning, it's a big win 40 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 1: for where they stack up in the playoffs because this 41 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 1: had the chance to be kind of a split in 42 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: the road, I think, kind of game. Right, if you 43 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: drop this one, you fall drop two in a row, 44 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you're like, ye, this is 45 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: getting dicey for making the playoffs, you know. And now 46 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 1: the Ravens are in good position with five games remaining, 47 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: you probably need to win two of them to ensure 48 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: you're spot in the playoffs. And oh, by the way, 49 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: you're a half game back of the Steelers. Now you 50 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: both have eight wins and you still got a game 51 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: at Mt. Bank Stadium against them coming up. 52 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is kind of crazy. And the whole it's 53 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 2: a week to week league. Everyone says it. It's cliche. 54 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 2: It gets tossed out after every really win or loss. 55 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 2: Everyone says that. But man, how different you feel a 56 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 2: week later after the Steelers fall on Thursday Night Football 57 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 2: in the snow Globe game to the Browns, And now 58 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 2: the Ravens beat the Chargers and they're just they're knocking 59 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 2: on the door. For the Steelers, you got the bye 60 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 2: week looming. Of course, you also got the Eagles before 61 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 2: the bye week, who are one of the hottest teams 62 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 2: in football. But anyway, we're we'll talk about the Eagles later. 63 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 2: Tonight's about I just think I think that like a 64 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 2: week can make a world of difference in the NFL, 65 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 2: and we're seeing that with this team, and to your point, 66 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 2: like this not that like the season. I didn't feel 67 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 2: like the season was was teetering on a nice edge, 68 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 2: but it was a little bit of a fork in 69 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 2: the road. And Lamar Jackson kind of made that same 70 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 2: point after the game. He said, you know, after that game, 71 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 2: we kind of looked at it and said, this thing 72 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 2: could go either way. You know, you win some games, 73 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 2: you win several games in a row, but then you 74 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 2: drop a game you feel like you should have won 75 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 2: against the Steelers. They drop a game they felt like 76 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 2: they should have won against the Browns or the Raiders, 77 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 2: and so felt like this thing was could go either 78 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 2: direction and for them to write the ship and deliver 79 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 2: a really convincing win against a tough team I think 80 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 2: says a lot about this Ravens group. 81 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: Yep. And of course we spent a lot of time 82 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: talking about the harble. John Harball, Big bro is now 83 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: three and oh against little Bro. I'm little Bro. So 84 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: you know this is big Bro vibes. It's Big Bros 85 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: only right now on this podcast, I'm gonna have to 86 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 1: take a back seat. So and and quite honestly, I 87 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: thought John coached a hell of a game and a 88 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 1: lot of this game came down to a gutsy fourth 89 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: down call that he made in the second quarter, after 90 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,359 Speaker 1: right after the two minute warning, where he and the 91 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: Ravens went for it on fourth and one from their 92 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: own sixteen. This is a historically aggressive call. No team 93 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: Garrett had converted from that deep in their own territory 94 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: in the first half of a game since twenty twelve. Hey, 95 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 1: what else happened in twenty twelve? Harball two and and 96 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: on that one, by the way, it was on a 97 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: fake punt, So it wasn't just you know what, we're 98 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: gonna line up and just go for this. It was 99 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: a trick It was a trick play. And so that 100 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: pays off. Five plays later, the Lamar Jackson throws a 101 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,119 Speaker 1: bomb to a shot baiting for a touchdown. The Ravens 102 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: take the lead and they never relinquish that lead, and 103 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 1: so you talk about turning points in the game. That 104 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: was it, and John Harball delivered on a play that 105 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, even as aggressive as Lamar always is, he 106 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 1: was coming off the field thinking we're punting, and John 107 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: was like, how about we actually go for this? 108 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I think that a lot of people because 109 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 2: it was leading into the two minute warning. They do 110 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 2: the whole thing where they come to the line. You're like, 111 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 2: and Buck and Aikman are saying, Okay, they're gonna just 112 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 2: try to jump them, try to get them to jump 113 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 2: off side, which they tried that, and then you go 114 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 2: to the two minute warning. You think, okay, they're gonna 115 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 2: come out of commercial break and the punt team's gonna 116 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 2: be on the field. And then they come out of 117 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 2: commercial break and they're lined up in this weird formation 118 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 2: with Mark Andrews a quarterback. You're like, wait, what, what's happening? 119 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 2: They're going for that? This is real, This is actually 120 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 2: happening here at the sixteen. 121 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: Like I actually kind of had the vibes that they 122 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: were gone to and you get you gotta attest to this. 123 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: In our slack discussion, did I not? While they're in commercials? 124 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: I said, I think I go for this. 125 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, you did, And it's kind of crazy, And I 126 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 2: think this probably speaks to the culture of I guess 127 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:09,559 Speaker 2: going forward on fourth down that the Ravens have built 128 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 2: over the last seventeen years, but really over the last 129 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 2: like five years with Harball and Lamar is that it 130 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 2: was kind of remarkable to me. After the game, John 131 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 2: and even Lamar like they were kind of unfazed by 132 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 2: that play, like, yes, it was, but John was just 133 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 2: like I felt like we were going to get it. 134 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 2: I felt like that we were going to get it. 135 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 2: And Lamar and talking about it like no one was 136 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 2: talking about that play, like, man, that was crazy. We 137 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 2: were really worried about that one. They were just like, yeah, hey, 138 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 2: he said you want to go for it, let's go 139 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 2: for it. I was all about it. We only needed 140 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 2: to get a half yard Yeah, it sounds pretty good. 141 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 2: Like that was their mindset and they were not, I guess, 142 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 2: scared of the fact that if you give this thing 143 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 2: up sixteen yard line and the game could really get 144 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 2: out of hand, Like that wasn't the way. 145 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 1: And not just that, I mean, you don't convert that. 146 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: You get lamb acid in the media for that. You 147 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 1: go for it on your I mean they're in the 148 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: building of former Charges head coach Brandon Staley, who was 149 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: on the wrong end of that a number of times 150 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: and it didn't work out well for him. Like you 151 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: you get stopped on fourth and one from your own 152 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: sixteen going for it in the second quarter in a 153 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: close game. It's gonna be a bad Tuesday in this case. Yeah, yeah, 154 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:27,239 Speaker 1: And like, but Harvees isn't John Harbes isn't a really 155 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: aggressive coach. I mean, Jim Harball was in this game too, 156 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: and John proved it later in the game too, went 157 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: for it twice on fourth down in a on a 158 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: key drive in the third quarter and beginning of the 159 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: fourth quarter. The Ravens converted on both of those and 160 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: finished with a touchdown on that drive as well. And 161 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: so I think, really, I think it's mostly this is 162 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: who John Harball is. And then secondarily, you're going against 163 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: your brother, and and you have a lot of respect 164 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: for the team that your brother has built. The charge 165 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: are good, they can eat up. I think John Harball 166 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: thought it could be a very high scoring game, especially 167 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: the way it started out. Chargers on their opening drive 168 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: march down the field for a touchdown. Thought it could 169 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: be a high scoring game. And by the way, the 170 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: Chargers also run the ball a lot. They can eat clock. 171 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: You're without your middle line, your middle linebacker, Roquan Smith, 172 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: so like you might have limited possessions. All those factors 173 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: combined I think went into John Harball saying, yeah, let's 174 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: do this. 175 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it obviously turned out to be Now, I 176 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,079 Speaker 2: think even when you make that decision, you're not thinking 177 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 2: all right, and then and then four players later you 178 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 2: you draw up the crazy bomb to Rashaw Bateman where 179 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 2: he makes a great catch with the defender, you know, 180 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 2: jumping all over him, committing a PI in the end zone. 181 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 2: But I think that it was a statement. I do 182 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 2: believe that it was a statement at that point of 183 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 2: the game to say we're going to be aggressive. We 184 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 2: want to be that, we want to let we want 185 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 2: to dictate this game. We don't want to just punt 186 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 2: it away and let him bleed the clock and then 187 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 2: maybe kick a field goal or just build on their lead. 188 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 2: We want to dictate this game and we want to 189 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 2: put it in the hands of our offense. And the 190 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 2: Ravens have the best offensive football. Betting on your offense 191 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 2: has been a pretty good thing for this group, and 192 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 2: they did it throughout this game. You go for it 193 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 2: three times on fourth down to go three for three, 194 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 2: and I thought that I just thought it was it 195 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 2: was a pretty it was aggressive, yeah, but it was 196 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 2: it was obviously aggressive aggressive. Well. 197 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: The other thing about it too, that that I think 198 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: kind of gets lost is the time factor. You know, 199 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: like even if you convert on fourth and one from 200 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 1: your own sixteen, you had two minutes two minutes left. Right, 201 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: you're at the two minute warning. I don't I don't 202 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: recall how many timeouts the Ravens had, but like you're 203 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: not guaranteeing yourself points necessarily. 204 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, congra, congrats, you got it. Now you got to 205 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,959 Speaker 2: go ninety three yards or whatever, eighty three yards or touchdown. 206 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: Or you got to go another fifty you get in 207 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: field goal range even right, So it's like it's a 208 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: two minute you're in two minute drill. So that's the 209 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: other component that makes it particularly wild. 210 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, and and of course that drive ends with a 211 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 2: Versaw Bateman touchdown, and the Versat Bateman has come on 212 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 2: in a big way this year obviously, and for him 213 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 2: to come up with that catch in that moment, I thought, 214 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 2: it just speaks to his development and also the trust 215 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 2: of Lamar Jackson has in him throwing that ball and 216 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 2: giving him a chance to make a play. It's not 217 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 2: like he was throughout Bateman's career. There's been plenty of 218 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 2: times where people look at the tape and they say, man, 219 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 2: this guy's getting wide open and he's a great route 220 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 2: runner and all that is true. That was a play 221 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 2: where it's not like he was wide open and Lamar 222 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 2: through the ball. He was covered pretty tight. But but 223 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 2: this is like the evolution of the game. It's not 224 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 2: just about getting open now, it's making a contested catch 225 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 2: when the game is on the line. And he's added 226 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 2: that element to his game this year, which is awesome 227 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 2: to see. And that that play, it starts with the 228 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 2: fourth down on the drive, but then that play really 229 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 2: turned this game. 230 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, totally agree. And you know, Bait had a chance 231 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 1: at another long one earlier in the first half and 232 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: didn't come up with that one, and Lamar Jackson went 233 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 1: to him on the sideline and said, hey, hey, Maan, 234 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: I expect you to make that play, like you got 235 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: to make that catch, and Batsal like I got you, 236 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: and he did. He had him and uh yeah, I mean, 237 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: I think really good job by him. Kind of looked 238 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: like fast hands, like he just kind of got turned around, 239 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:23,959 Speaker 1: got his hands and just made the quick had really 240 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: quick hands to go down and pluck that ball as 241 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: he went down to the turf. So yeah, very impressive. 242 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: Impressive play by Rashad Bateman. But let's be honest here, 243 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: it was Derrick Henry who got this offense going because 244 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: it was not good at the start of this game. 245 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: And the Ravens punted on their first two drives, the 246 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: second of which was a three and out. The first 247 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: drive they pick up a quick first down, run the 248 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: ball well and then oh, here we go another penalty. 249 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,839 Speaker 1: You know, we got a leg whip first time, the 250 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: first time I heard of that one. The leg whip 251 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: on the pack. 252 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 2: Even when the ref makes the signal for that one, 253 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 2: You're like, wait when he started to say, when he 254 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 2: said personal foul, I was like, okay, they must hit 255 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 2: the quarterback late tack on fifteen here because that play 256 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 2: took away of seventeen yard game. 257 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: And Nelson ag what is this taekwondo? We got a 258 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: leg We've sweeping the leg year, what's going on? And 259 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we can we can talk about 260 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: We'll talk about the penalties later. That one was kind 261 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: of a you blink twice to the TV and you know, 262 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: might have a few choice words on that one. And anyway, 263 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,839 Speaker 1: Ravens punt punt three and out on their next drive, 264 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: and Lamar Jackson after the game talks about this. He 265 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: is not happy about the way they're starting games. The 266 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: past three weeks, they have not started hot offensively at all. 267 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:43,559 Speaker 1: After that was really a strength of theirs at the 268 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,319 Speaker 1: beginning season. I think it was the first seven games 269 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: that they scored on their opening drives every game, and 270 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: so you know, Lamar was not happy. But got Derrick 271 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 1: Henry Rowland on their third drive carries of nineteen and 272 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 1: fourteen yards to start it off, and Derrick Henry ends 273 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 1: up didn't get in the end zone. First game this 274 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: season for Derrick Henry where he did not touch pay dirt, 275 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: but he rumbled for one hundred and forty yards today. 276 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, he did what you you really expect him to 277 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 2: do and what he's been proven, he's proven all year long. 278 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 2: Twenty four carries, one hundred and forty yards. 279 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: Se I mean, let's just be you can't just be like, yeah, 280 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: he's expected to put up one hundred buck forty. I mean, day, 281 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: that's a high bar. 282 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 2: That's kind of the bar that he set. I mean, 283 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 2: that's that's just what he's done this year and that's 284 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 2: what he is. That's how good he is and how 285 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 2: good this offense is when he's rolling and they did 286 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 2: turn to him and he hit some big chunk plays there. 287 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 2: Then also got going like Zay Flowers helped jump start 288 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 2: this offense with some nice gains in that second quarter there, 289 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 2: when the offense finally started to start clicking there in 290 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 2: the second quarter on his back to back touchdown drives. 291 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 2: But I understand, like it's not a whole hum day. 292 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: You're You're like, you're like, oh, well, Saquon Barkley put 293 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 1: up two fifty five, there might be four on this 294 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: in the same stadium. 295 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:09,439 Speaker 2: Oh that's the bar for those two guys incredible seasons 296 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:13,199 Speaker 2: and it's like, okay, yeah, nice, nice average day there 297 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 2: for Derek hundred forty yards. 298 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: Well, you sound like Khalil Mack. You see the Khalil 299 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: Mack quote after the game. 300 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 2: What did he say? 301 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: Oh, Khlil Mack said talking about Derrek Henry said, that's 302 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: the thing, man, I don't think it's hard to play 303 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: against that guy. And hopefully we'll see this team again. 304 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: That's all. 305 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 2: I'm surprised that place. Yeah, that that surprises me. I'm 306 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 2: not I'm not going that far. I'm just saying I 307 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 2: think that Derek Kennry has been so good that one 308 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 2: hundred and forty yards is kind of almost what you 309 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 2: expect for him with this offensive role, and especially in 310 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 2: a game that you're up to scorers in the second half. 311 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean really, he had another really big play 312 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: in this game was the double the double stiff arm 313 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: on a third key I think it was third and 314 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: one where it looked like he might be tackling for 315 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: a loss third and one, thirty three something like that, 316 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: and uh, to stiff arm two dudes and then convert 317 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: that to move the chains was a huge play in 318 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: the second half of this game as the Ravens offense 319 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: really kind of grind grinded it out. I mean after 320 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: those first two punts, We've been talking about this all 321 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: season long, this offense. All it takes is a spark 322 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: and then they're off and running. And Derrick Henry was 323 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: that spark tonight, right. So after the two punts to 324 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: begin the game, it's touchdown, touchdown, field goal, touchdown, touchdown. 325 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 326 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good. 327 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, that's pretty good. And also on that third 328 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 2: down that you're talking about where he stiff armed two guys, 329 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 2: that's a tackle in the backfield for most running backs 330 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 2: in the end, absolutely like maybe maybe Derrick Henry is 331 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 2: sake one of the two guys getting out of that. Yeah, 332 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 2: it's that's a tackle for lost there. So he breaks 333 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 2: off two tackles there and gets the first down. And 334 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 2: then just as Hill delivers the knockout blow with the 335 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 2: fifty one yard touchdown. So you see the compliment there 336 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 2: to those two guys. They've been working to other great 337 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 2: all season long. Derrek Henry obviously is the bell cow 338 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 2: and he moves the chains there and then Justice Hill 339 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 2: rap rips off the longest run of his career fifty 340 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 2: one yards, and that really put the game out of reach. 341 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: Yep, yep. The Ravens ran for two hundred and twelve yards. 342 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: That's the most the Chargers have given up all season 343 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: this year. This is a Chargers defense that entered the 344 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: game number one in scoring, giving up the fewest points 345 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: allowed per game in the league. They were the number 346 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: two red zone defense in the league. The Ravens took 347 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: care of business in both regards. 348 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 2: They said on the broadcast, this is the first time 349 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 2: ever in Jim Harbaugh's ten years a head coach that 350 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 2: a team has rushed for two hundred plus yards on 351 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 2: his defense. So that just speaks to. 352 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: With Greg Roman in the booth. In the other booth 353 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: you out roaman the Romans. 354 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, they were. They were able to control that game, 355 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 2: control this on the ground, and it was just efficient. 356 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 2: It was a really efficient game once they started going 357 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 2: there in the second quarter, they hit some big plays. 358 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 2: That's the thing. It was like they were moving the 359 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 2: ball consistently on the ground, getting some chunk plays. But 360 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 2: then they also hit the big shots. It was the 361 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 2: just Hill big play. It was the big play. TI 362 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 2: were shot Babman right before half. So it was once 363 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,959 Speaker 2: this offense got into a groove, all the things that 364 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 2: you want to see from the Ravens, different guys being involved, 365 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,479 Speaker 2: Derrick Henry rolling deep shots down the field like they 366 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 2: hit all of them. They did. They did all of 367 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 2: those things and it was really pretty to see. 368 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't Lamar's hottest performance. I mean he 369 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:26,199 Speaker 1: said even at at the beginning of the game, he 370 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: was pretty teed off at himself. You know, he came 371 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: out and he was kind of sailing the balls high. 372 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: Just wasn't very accurate early in this game. And then 373 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 1: but he also can just you know, obviously just turn 374 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: it on at the snap of his fingers and finishes 375 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 1: the day highly efficient sixteen to twenty two, two touchdowns, 376 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: but you know, only one hundred and seventy seven passing 377 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: yard so it wasn't like they were hitting a lot 378 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: of big plays in the passing game. I mean, Zay 379 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: Flowers long was twenty five yards. I think that was 380 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 1: that was maybe Lamar's best throw, rolling out to his right, 381 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: escapes the act, hits Zay Flowers of the dime. But 382 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: there's underneath stuff that they made work. Uh, you know, 383 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: the sixteen yard pass to Mark Andrews. They didn't have 384 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 1: a lot going through the air, but it was still 385 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:17,360 Speaker 1: a clean performance. No turnovers from the offense, no turnovers 386 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: at all, and so that was that was impressive. And 387 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: and I thought that it was a step forward for 388 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: the offense, even though they shot themselves some in the 389 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 1: foot with penalties. I thought it was a cleaner game, 390 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: certainly than what we saw in Pittsburgh. 391 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the war also had the nice touchdown run. Yeah, 392 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 2: that was the first touchdown of the game. And then 393 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 2: he paid tribute to his high school step back, the 394 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 2: iconic high school play there when he did the step 395 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 2: back going into the end zone. 396 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: So almost pulled it off. It wasn't quite as as 397 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: it wasn't as clean as the high school and yeah, 398 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 1: he kind of got touched. I know he was ticked 399 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 1: off about that. 400 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 2: I bet guys in the NFL a little faster than 401 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:58,640 Speaker 2: they are in high school. So it's tougher to pull 402 00:18:58,680 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 2: that playoff. 403 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: More challenging, yep, but still obviously a very good game 404 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: for Lamar. And Hey, this offense, you do this against 405 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:11,959 Speaker 1: a very good Chargers defense. Uh, that's another statement for 406 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: what is one of the best offenses of the league. 407 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 2: So we're gonna take a break before you before you 408 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 2: move to the defense. You gotta give market. We gotta 409 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 2: give Mark Andrews a shot. 410 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: That's true. 411 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 2: I mean, this guy comes up with another touchdown. He's 412 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:25,919 Speaker 2: I just love what I'm seeing from Mark. When you 413 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 2: need things, when you need a big play, he seems 414 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 2: like he's always there, which is what has been the 415 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 2: case for him all throughout his career. But he's found 416 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 2: his I think he's really found his groove over the 417 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 2: course of the last month. And we spent all this 418 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 2: time talking about Baitman's great catch. Mark Andrews equally as 419 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 2: impressive with the guy right in his face as well, 420 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 2: to come down with that ball, get his feet and bounds. 421 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 2: Initially when they ruled that out of bounds, I was like, really, like, 422 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 2: I thought that was pretty clearly in showed it was obvious. 423 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 1: Obvious. Obviously I was that was shocking. 424 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:57,919 Speaker 2: I miss something. 425 00:19:58,400 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 1: I mean, I just knew that, Like as soon as 426 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: looked at that, it was clearly two feet down. He 427 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 1: got two feet in his butt. 428 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 2: I know, I know it was. Anyway you looked at it, 429 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 2: that was a catch and then some just a great 430 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 2: play by Andrews. 431 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: Well, I think we're gonna have to nickname a Moss 432 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: Andrews after that one. It's no longer Mark Andrews. It's Moss. 433 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 2: And whenever you're talking about a guy getting Moss, it's 434 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 2: always a good thing for your receiving. 435 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 1: My eight year old knows what it means to Moss somebody. 436 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: So that's impressive Mark Andrews, just continuing Randy Moss's legacy. 437 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 2: Well done for Andrews. He's finishes the game five catches, 438 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 2: forty four yards and that Randy Moss like touchdown. So 439 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:38,640 Speaker 2: we'll take quick break when we come back. We'll dive 440 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 2: into the improved performance on the defensive side of the football. 441 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 2: You're listening to the Loune Podcast. We are coming to 442 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 2: you from the Sea Geek Studio. We also want to 443 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 2: mention our partners with Draftking Sportsbook. They are an official 444 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 2: sports betting partner of the Baltimore Ravens Draftking Sports Book. 445 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 2: The crown is yours. So the Ravens obviously win the 446 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 2: game thirty to twenty three. Chargers get a late touchdown, 447 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 2: but overall, I think the you gotta be pleased with 448 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 2: the improved performance of this defense, especially considering they were 449 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 2: without their leader in the middle of the defense, Rokwans, 450 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 2: missing the game with a hamstring injury. Yeah. 451 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: Absolutely, I thought this was definitely you know, you follow 452 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 1: up what was a strong game for the defense in 453 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,640 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh with this, and now you're like, all right, we're 454 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 1: onto something here. This isn't this. There wasn't a flash 455 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: of the pan. It was at an anomaly, like maybe 456 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: this defense has turned a corner. And I do think 457 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,479 Speaker 1: that the secondary changes they've made were the right changes. 458 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 1: They're clearly paying off. Uh, And you know it didn't 459 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 1: feel that way early in this game. First first drive 460 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: for the Chargers, they march. 461 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 2: That's what you're saying after the first drive. 462 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 1: No, that's not what I was saying. After the first drive, 463 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 1: nine plays seventy yards for a touchdown, and you know 464 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: they on that drive, they were just attacking the Ravens 465 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: on the ground over the middle of the field, through 466 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 1: the air. I mean, it was kind of like, oh boy, 467 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,239 Speaker 1: this could be a long night without Rokwan Smith here. 468 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 1: They're just going right down the gut and then and 469 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: the Ravens defense responds after that, the Chargers after that 470 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:09,360 Speaker 1: went punt, field goal, punt, field goal, field goal, punt, punt, 471 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: and then the touchdown late in the game. It didn't 472 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: really matter, but impressive turnaround for the Ravens. 473 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 2: D Yeah, and I just I agree with you in this. 474 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 2: On the secondary front, just kind of recapping what they've done. 475 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 2: Kyle Hamilton's playing more traditional safety, our Darius Washington has 476 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 2: now gone into the starting lineup replacing Marcus Williams, and 477 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 2: then you have Kyle Hamilton back layer, and then from 478 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 2: that nickel role, Marlon Humphrey was playing a lot in 479 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 2: the slot tonight, Nate, A lot, yeah, a lot, a 480 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 2: lot of action against lab McConkey Nate Wiggins. I don't 481 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:43,880 Speaker 2: know what the snap shower was, but he was getting 482 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 2: a lot of work tonight. He was out there a 483 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 2: tonamesh had a very good game. Tradaswite has been inserted 484 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 2: into the lineup, not playing one hundred percent of snaps 485 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,360 Speaker 2: right anywhere close, but you know he was added as 486 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 2: a trade deadline at peace and he's involved in this defense. 487 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 2: So I agree with you. Yeah, I agree with you. 488 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 2: I'd like the moves that they've made from a personnel standpoint, 489 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 2: from a scheme standpoint, and it seems to be working 490 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 2: out well. And then gosh, I got the guy that 491 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 2: we got to give a lot of credit. 492 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 1: I want to before we turned the page for the 493 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 1: big picture. Look, yeah, get let's give perhaps to zach Orr. Okay, yeah, 494 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: let's get prohaps the zach Orr. And he got some. 495 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 1: I was happy to hear the Monday Night Football crew 496 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: Joe Buck giving him some because it's been tough sledding 497 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 1: for zach Orr. And you're going against the Chargers offense 498 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 1: with Greg Roman and Jim Harbaugh. Right. Justin Herbert, who 499 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: we saw a week ago, was just on fire, like 500 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 1: this is a talented offense, and I thought that the 501 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 1: Ravens and Zach had the answers and they came after 502 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: him like they came after him they did. 503 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 2: I've said many times that even though this defense has struggled, 504 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 2: I still have a lot of belief in Zach Orr's 505 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 2: defensive coordinator, and I think that he's going to figure 506 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 2: it out and write the ship. And I think that 507 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 2: we're seeing this thing trend in the right direction. Two 508 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 2: games in a row where the defense has played a 509 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 2: lot better. It's really encouraging, especially this game, as you're 510 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 2: talking about against one of the hottest teams in an 511 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 2: offense that was rolling, and a week ago, the conversation 512 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 2: is like, hey, is justin Herbert in the mix for 513 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 2: the MVP conversation? Could he be in that conversation? Like 514 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 2: that was what there was? There was talk of that 515 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 2: after the performance last week, and so I think that 516 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 2: it's for them to have that kind of showing. 517 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: Is uh. 518 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 2: It says a lot about this defense. 519 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 1: We're gonna have this conversation in a week by the way, 520 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: against the Eagles and that hot offense too. 521 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, it does. 522 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 1: It's like it's just it's gonna keep coming. 523 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 2: It's gonna keep coming on coming. 524 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. But yeah, I think you were about to 525 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: give Malik Harrison his props and and he deserves them, 526 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: you know, with without Rokwan Smith, it was a committee 527 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: approach for the Ravens, as zach Orr said it would be. Uh, 528 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 1: Malik Harrison and Christian Welch both started this game along 529 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 1: with Trent and Simpsons, so three inside linebackers first out, 530 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 1: and then Malik seemed to play. We'll see the snapcounts later, 531 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: but he played a lot of the snaps and then 532 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: it looked like Christian Welch and Chris Board kind of 533 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 1: rotated in there a little bit to a lesser degree 534 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: as well. But you know, look, Malik's Malik has his 535 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: limitations and like it's he's a big dude, and but 536 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,479 Speaker 1: he played his butt off and I thought he brought 537 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 1: a physical element to this game. And he was hitting 538 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: out there and he finished with thirteen tackles. That's more 539 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: than twice the amount of anybody else on the team made, 540 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,880 Speaker 1: and so props to him for a heck of a night. 541 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 2: Malik got a game ball deservedly, so after the win, 542 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 2: happy for him to be able to do that. And 543 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 2: I also just even within the game, when the Chargers 544 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 2: march down the field on the opening drive, there was 545 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 2: a play where JK Dobbins had a nice run of 546 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 2: the leak looked like he took the wrong gap there 547 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 2: and he's getting credits. You look at people are criticizing him. 548 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 2: And he even said after the games like, I know 549 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 2: there are people doubting me going into this game. Yep, 550 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 2: it was good for me to be able to go 551 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 2: out there and show that I can play, that I 552 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 2: can play at a high level that I belong And 553 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 2: I thought that he absolutely showed that tonight. And I 554 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 2: also thought that like this game the Hardball Bowl, like 555 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 2: these these two teams, they play a similar style. They're physical, 556 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 2: they want to control the line of scrimmage like they're tough, 557 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 2: and I thought that you need in order to play 558 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 2: in that kind of a game, you need guys on 559 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 2: defense who can who can stand up to that type 560 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 2: of physical game for sure. 561 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean that's a big offensive line, uh that 562 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: the Chargers have, and they're physical and you got you 563 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: got JK, you got Gus coming downhill like there's gonna 564 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: be some hitting going on, and Malik Harrison is well 565 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 1: suited for that kind of game. 566 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, He's perfectly suited for it, and he showed 567 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 2: it tonight. You mentioned JK. Dobbins that it's disappointing that 568 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 2: he had to leave the game early with a knee injury, 569 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 2: and hopefully it's not too bad. He was on the 570 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,439 Speaker 2: field after the game talking with some former Ravens, so 571 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 2: that's at least a good sign that he was out 572 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 2: there on the field at the end of the game. 573 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 2: But disappointing. You know, he started, He started the game, 574 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 2: He looked pretty good, and I do think their offense 575 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 2: changed when he left. 576 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 1: I don't think. 577 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 2: I think that took certainly an element away from what 578 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 2: they wanted to do, and they were not as effective 579 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 2: with him on the sidelines. But again, hope that he's okay, 580 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,360 Speaker 2: and I'm sure they can't hit a lot of him. 581 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 2: So disappointing from oh for sure. 582 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: Early on, I mean, he was yapping with Marlin Humphrey 583 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: after a tackle. He was he was juiced up, as 584 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:35,880 Speaker 1: JK always is when he plays. But I think there's 585 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: even a little little dash of something extra in this game, 586 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: for sure. The Ravens run defense, though, held the Chargers 587 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 1: to eighty three yards on twenty carries. It's four point 588 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 1: two a run against Greg Roumans offense. That's a win 589 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,880 Speaker 1: without Roque, without Roquon, that's a that's a big, big 590 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:57,400 Speaker 1: win now. And obviously again JK, had JK not left, 591 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 1: that might not have looked so rosy, but still I 592 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 1: think an impressive note there. 593 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, fourth quarter it kind of became very 594 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 2: very pass heavy as they were trying to climb the 595 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,120 Speaker 2: way back into him. But still don't take anything away 596 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 2: from it. That's that they came into the game. The 597 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 2: Chargers came into the game wanting to run the football. 598 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,719 Speaker 2: They wanted to establish it. They did it early on. 599 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 1: To stop it, well, I'm not just able to stop it, 600 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 1: but the Ravens, I mean, a big story in this 601 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: game was the Ravens ran the ball better and more 602 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: effectively than the Chargers did. Right. This is two hardball 603 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 1: coach teams like we've been talking about, that are physical, 604 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: want want to control the clock, want to run it 605 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 1: down your throat and beat you with physicality and all 606 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: that stuff. They're two teams cut from the same cloth, 607 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: and the Ravens just did it better. 608 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 2: Right. 609 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: They ran for two hundred and twelve yards the Chargers 610 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: ran for eighty three. That's your game in a nutshell 611 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: right there. And neither team killed each other with turnovers. 612 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 1: The Ravens still had a bunch of penalties that that 613 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 1: almost cost them, but uh, the Chargers had some penalties too. 614 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: And so I think the Ravens in a game of 615 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: similar teams, because not only in personnel are they similar, 616 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: but in their head coaches and the way they're built 617 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: and all those things, the Ravens just outravened them. 618 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 2: Out harballed them. 619 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: And maybe that's the their they out harballed them. 620 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, you could be onto something there. I think that 621 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 2: I think that there's truth in that statement, and I 622 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 2: think that I said it earlier. I felt like these 623 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 2: teams when I was watching them, they just want to 624 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,479 Speaker 2: play the same style of football in terms of how 625 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 2: they're built in so many ways. Absolutely, and the Ravens 626 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 2: won that battle and. 627 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: The Chargers also the Chargers offense also, you know, we 628 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: talked about the sloppiness of the Ravens offense in Pittsburgh. 629 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: The Chargers dropped some some big passes too. Right, It 630 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: was a tough day for Quinton Johnston. Quentin Johnson their 631 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: their former first round pick, who by the way, they 632 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 1: picked one pick before his Flowers was picked by the Ravens. 633 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: I think we know who made the right choice on 634 00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: that one, and so yeah, I think also you have 635 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 1: to keep that in mind, like when evaluating the Ravens 636 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: defensive performance, the Chargers also had some sloppiness similar to 637 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: what we saw the Ravens having Pittsburgh a week ago. 638 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, that the drops hurt the Chargers. Quinn Johnson didn't 639 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 2: have a good night. I mean it was it was 640 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 2: a struggle for him, and he dropped one in particular 641 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 2: on third down that was that was a really that 642 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 2: was a really big miscue for him and that hurt 643 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 2: them in this game. And so that was part of it. Certainly, 644 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 2: I think that if you catch those passes, it could 645 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 2: be a little bit different. And in terms of the 646 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 2: penalties the Ravens, it does continue to be an issue 647 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 2: for this team. The Ravens finished this game with nine 648 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 2: for one oh two and some significant ones. We talked 649 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 2: about the recard one, but Caerry was called for a 650 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 2: hold late in the game. Those penalties kind of racked 651 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 2: up on that final drive for the Chargers where you 652 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 2: had some big chunks there, so they finished with nine 653 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 2: for one oh two, and there were something that certainly hurt. 654 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 2: We talked about the record one Wigans was called on 655 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 2: a special teams one, but they also had back to 656 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 2: back ones on that final drive for the Chargers offense. 657 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 2: P I calls could have gone either way. Marlon was 658 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 2: called for one, Jalen armor Davis was called for one, 659 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 2: set up a touchdown for the Chargers. Obviously, those didn't 660 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 2: hurt the Ravens because they had a two touchdown lead. 661 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 2: They just tilted the stats a little bit at the 662 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 2: end of the game. 663 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: I'll give the referees credit for picking up the one 664 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 1: on Brandon Stevens that even though Troy Aikman tried to 665 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 1: go back and revisit and say, blah blah blah, I 666 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 1: think that was a good flag to pick up. And 667 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: I'll give him credit for forgetting that Mark Andrews touchdown 668 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: right before we even had to go to replay, really 669 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 1: coming in and just being like, no, no, no, you didn't. 670 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: You didn't see that one, buddy, And yeah, so are 671 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 1: the penalty like the bad luck penalties starting to swing 672 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: in the Ravens favor, Like, I mean, I don't want 673 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 1: to speak too soon here, but I'm just kind of saying, 674 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 1: like they're picking up flags. 675 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, that was on the on the Brandon Stevens one. 676 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 2: When they pick up you almost never see him pick 677 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 2: up a flag a PI, right, And I don't know 678 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 2: if they it's unclear if they ruled that unketchable. It 679 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 2: just didn't feel like it was a PI. Either way, 680 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 2: it went in the Ravens favor. 681 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 1: They didn't say that it was uncatchable. 682 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 2: They did not say it. It's always tough to tell, honestly, 683 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 2: when you look at the camera angles like, it's hard 684 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 2: to tell with if it's catchable or uncatchable. But either way, 685 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 2: that one went in the Ravens favorite, and I think 686 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 2: it was the right call. I think it was the 687 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 2: right decision to pick up that flag there. But it 688 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 2: was good to be on the receiving end of a 689 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 2: call that seemed like it was going the wrong way 690 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 2: and then a huge call. I would have put the 691 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 2: ball in the one yard line in that situation and 692 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 2: it would have been huge. 693 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: They ended up huge, huge call. Tyler Linderbaum got called. 694 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: I mean the Ravens might have run the ball out. 695 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: I think they would have run the game out. Uh, 696 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 1: you know, before the Chargers last touchdown, had Tyler Linderbaum 697 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 1: not got called for a holding penalty that he certainly 698 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 1: seem to disagree with. So still some things to clean 699 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: up overall, I think that, And I thought this with 700 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: the Patricard leg whip is like the Ravens have a 701 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: penalty issue that they need to clean up, Like they 702 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: they just they're committing too many penalties. Also, I think 703 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: penalties being called can be a self fulfilling prophecy in 704 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: that once officials know that you're the highest penalized team, 705 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 1: they expect more penalties from you, right like the rep 706 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 1: they know this going into the game, who's penalized at 707 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 1: a higher rate and whatnot. And so then you start 708 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: to you see more of the penalties that happen on 709 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 1: every play or whatnot. And and I just think a 710 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 1: bunch of judgment calls and the analytics kind of prove this. 711 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 1: Like I don't remember what week it was or if 712 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 1: this still is the case, but deep into the season, 713 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: very recently, the Ravens had by far the most judgment 714 00:33:55,680 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 1: calls penalties against them in the league. And so like, 715 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: I think that that is kind of a convergence of 716 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 1: factors that have led to the Ravens being so highly penalized, 717 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 1: being the most penalized team in the league. All that said, 718 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 1: they do need to clean these up because at times 719 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 1: when you're watching them, even tonight, watching them, you're like, 720 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 1: just get out of your own way, like you're still 721 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: holding yourself back, and that was part of their issue 722 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 1: offensively and defensively. 723 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 2: Yep, I'm with you on that across the board. The 724 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 2: one other point that I wanted to make in this 725 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 2: game tonight is justin Tucker. It's good to see him 726 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 2: knock down a forty five yard field goal. Only had 727 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 2: one field goal attempt in this game, but it was 728 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,399 Speaker 2: nice to see him knock that down, and a lot 729 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 2: of talk this week about his struggles. Of course, this 730 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 2: is a dome, so it's, you know, a bit of 731 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 2: an easier atmosphere. But still forty five yards is not 732 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,359 Speaker 2: a total gimme and it. 733 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 1: Was not at all the pipe. Yeah, not at all. 734 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 2: That was a big kick in that moment. Ravens needed that, 735 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 2: and so it's encouraging to see him deliver it and 736 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,320 Speaker 2: still liver the commercial night, the Craven commercial. 737 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 1: Yes, that was good stuff. As well. I mean, I 738 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 1: think most importantly about that kick. Not only did he 739 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 1: make it, but I didn't see it kind of turn 740 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 1: left like so many of his kicks have been right. 741 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 1: It wasn't like. It wasn't like the last kick that 742 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 1: he made in Pittsburgh where he's like, you know what, 743 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: this thing just keeps turn and left. So I'm just 744 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 1: gonna like bank on it, turn and left, so I'm 745 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 1: gonna aim for the right. It was just true, And 746 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: that's what I want to see out of Justin Tucker. 747 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 1: Like they've been saying all the week, just kick it straight, 748 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 1: Just kick it straight. And that's what he did on 749 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,319 Speaker 1: that So I think hopefully that is a moment where 750 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,359 Speaker 1: he can kind of turn the corner and get over 751 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 1: this recent slump. And we mentioned him briefly earlier. I 752 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:45,320 Speaker 1: thought Nate Wiggins is gonna continue to be a bigger 753 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 1: and bigger player in this secondary, especially as he gets 754 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,840 Speaker 1: more snaps with this new secondary alignment. I thought he 755 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 1: had a really strong game. His pass breakup on third 756 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 1: down when he came downhill and popped the receiver, got 757 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 1: the ball out early in this game to force a punt. 758 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 1: That was a big for him. You know, he's talked 759 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,439 Speaker 1: about he needs to get less gravvy, and I see 760 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 1: him making strides in that regard and to hold justin 761 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,360 Speaker 1: Herbert's the two hundred and eighteen passing yards for this secondary, 762 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 1: that's an accomplishment. Not that the Chargers have racked up 763 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 1: a ton of passing yards, because that's just not the 764 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 1: kind of offense that they run with Greg Rouman. But still, 765 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,879 Speaker 1: you know, not super efficient twenty one to thirty six 766 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 1: for two to eighteen, and they're in comeback mode, like 767 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 1: claw from behind mode. That's that's an impressive showing. And 768 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 1: I thought the pass rush kind of got cranked up 769 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah. Van Ney now is up to 770 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 1: eight sacks this year. O Way got another sack, Stevens 771 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 1: even Tubo got a sack. I love it. So I 772 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 1: thought the Ravens pass rush showed something tonight too. 773 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, just across the board. Really big win for this team. Exciting. 774 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 2: The Ravens are now eight and four on the season, 775 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 2: really good position from a wildcard standpoint, just getting into 776 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,239 Speaker 2: the playoffs, and they're knocking on the door in the 777 00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 2: AFC North. So this is a big win. John Harbaugh 778 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,360 Speaker 2: has now improved to three and oh against his brother Ravens. 779 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,840 Speaker 2: Get this one and it's an exciting Monday night football victory. 780 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 2: So Ravens fans enjoy this one. It's a short week 781 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 2: the Ravens. We'll get back to Baltimore bright and early 782 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 2: in the morning. Yeah, right to the office to get 783 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 2: ready for the Philadelphia Eagles coming to town this week. 784 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 2: So enjoy this win and we will be back with 785 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,359 Speaker 2: you later this week.