WEBVTT - What's Wright - Best Of - Pacers-Thunder STUNNING Nick, Kevin Durant's TOP 3 landing spots, LeBron vs. Kobe "not close" 0:00:00.560 --> 0:00:02.760 Welcome to the Best of the Week for What's Right 0:00:02.840 --> 0:00:05.480 with Nick Right the best takes and moments from this 0:00:05.559 --> 0:00:09.879 week on the show Enjoy. You said the Pacers had 0:00:09.920 --> 0:00:11.600 to win this game, and they went out there and 0:00:11.600 --> 0:00:11.920 win it. 0:00:11.960 --> 0:00:13.400 Their role players showed up. 0:00:13.520 --> 0:00:16.079 Okay, C's role players did little for them, shave and 0:00:16.160 --> 0:00:18.400 kind of underwhelmed a little bit. Do you think that 0:00:18.400 --> 0:00:20.560 that performance is replicable for the Pacers? 0:00:21.640 --> 0:00:25.159 Well, what I think is this. I think we have 0:00:25.360 --> 0:00:27.800 something now that I never thought we were going to have, 0:00:28.960 --> 0:00:31.440 which is a real series that could go either way. 0:00:32.520 --> 0:00:40.040 And I I'm shocked Indy won that game, and I 0:00:40.080 --> 0:00:44.040 know I shouldn't be, because again, five and a half 0:00:44.120 --> 0:00:49.080 point underdogs win all the time. It's not like and 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:49.840 they were at home. 0:00:49.880 --> 0:00:50.480 They're at home. 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:55.920 And I understand all of that, I really do. And 0:00:56.240 --> 0:01:02.280 if I the only solid I have, I suppose from 0:01:02.280 --> 0:01:07.080 a personal perspective, in all you know my terrible poker 0:01:07.640 --> 0:01:12.000 results from last week in Vegas's. Had I not had 0:01:12.080 --> 0:01:16.200 terrible poker results last week in Vegas, I almost assuredly 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:21.160 would have fired considerably on the thunder to win this 0:01:21.319 --> 0:01:26.560 basketball game. Because I have bought in. I have bought 0:01:26.600 --> 0:01:30.560 in that the twenty twenty five Oklahoma City Thunder as 0:01:30.640 --> 0:01:36.200 far as singular seasons are an all time team that 0:01:36.560 --> 0:01:42.440 Indiana did not have an answer for Shay And as 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:47.360 we talked about I think pretty intelligently on Tuesday, it 0:01:47.480 --> 0:01:53.960 is just so hard unless you have the best defense 0:01:54.040 --> 0:01:59.760 in basketball to win a championship, if your best players 0:01:59.760 --> 0:02:03.240 a pass first guy, if he's not a just go 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:06.720 get you a bucket guy. And we talked about it 0:02:06.760 --> 0:02:10.080 on Tuesday that the greatest point guards we've seen in 0:02:10.120 --> 0:02:14.640 the history of this league, aside from Magic Johnson, we're 0:02:14.680 --> 0:02:20.000 not able to crack that code if they were Listen, 0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:22.239 Steph did it. Obviously he's not a pass first guy. 0:02:22.760 --> 0:02:25.480 Zeke did it. He could have scored more, but also 0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:28.960 had the best defense in basketball. But Jason Kidd or 0:02:29.080 --> 0:02:33.280 Chris Paul or hell Oscar Robertson before he had a 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:38.919 Keeam or Bob Coosey before he had Russell, Steve Nash, 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:43.560 those guys, It's just so hard because you are going 0:02:43.600 --> 0:02:46.959 to come again across a team who's best guy can 0:02:47.120 --> 0:02:49.880 go get a bucket whenever he wants And how do 0:02:49.960 --> 0:02:53.200 you answer that? And again, I'm not acting as if 0:02:53.200 --> 0:02:56.760 the Pacers have won the series. I am acting as if, however, 0:02:57.080 --> 0:03:00.960 we now have a series, and now, all of a sudden, 0:03:02.280 --> 0:03:06.440 the Pacers have a game to play with the Pacers 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:12.160 demands go into Game four, and I'm sure they won't 0:03:12.240 --> 0:03:15.240 view it this way, but it's a house money game. 0:03:16.440 --> 0:03:21.080 They go into Game four saying, all right, if we win, 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:27.239 we have a vice script on this series. And if 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:31.040 we lose, we already know we can win in Oklahoma City. 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:36.840 And unlike Game one, which you give the Pacers credit 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:40.760 for their heart and their grit and all of that, 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:49.800 Game one, however, let's be honest, felt fluky. It felt like, okay, 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:52.560 Oklahoma City took their eye off the ball for just 0:03:52.600 --> 0:03:55.240 a minute, and the Pacers stormed through that door. 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:56.160 We say it felt fluky. 0:03:56.160 --> 0:03:57.920 If this is what they do, then they get they 0:03:57.920 --> 0:04:00.400 get in those late game situations and they can over coming. 0:04:00.680 --> 0:04:01.880 I think they just did it again. 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:05.960 So but well, that's not what they did here, Oh yeah, 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:08.040 in this is not in this game. I'm talking about 0:04:08.080 --> 0:04:09.400 Game one. 0:04:08.720 --> 0:04:10.400 Oh yeah. 0:04:10.440 --> 0:04:14.440 So here, here's why I'm saying it didn't feel fluky 0:04:15.200 --> 0:04:19.840 that they it hit you know, that Haliburton hit the 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:24.080 game winner. That didn't feel fluky. What felt fluky was 0:04:24.600 --> 0:04:29.279 the fact that Oklahoma City led seconds into the game, 0:04:30.440 --> 0:04:35.040 the Pacers never closed the gap, that it was a 0:04:35.160 --> 0:04:40.480 fourteen point game in the fourth quarter and it was 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:45.080 I and all of a sudden, the Pacers have a 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:47.720 chance to steal it that and you're right, that was 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:50.200 the fourth time they've done that in these playoffs. I 0:04:50.320 --> 0:04:54.120 get that. So maybe fluky is the wrong word, Jeeves, 0:04:54.160 --> 0:04:58.520 but not They weren't going to win four games that way. 0:04:59.000 --> 0:05:02.360 They were not going to win games where Oklahoma City 0:05:02.440 --> 0:05:06.159 dominates the game and then they come roaring back like 0:05:06.200 --> 0:05:09.280 they've won one game a series that way, and then 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:14.279 game two, when Oklahoma City dominated from start to finish, 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:19.279 that felt to me much more indicative of the game. 0:05:19.400 --> 0:05:23.039 We were going to get where the Pacers are good 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:29.200 but Oklahoma City's great, and instead, everything you wanted to 0:05:29.240 --> 0:05:35.640 see from Indiana they did. They did bother shay More 0:05:36.200 --> 0:05:43.800 Halliburton was more aggressive, Siakam was more efficient, and the 0:05:43.839 --> 0:05:49.680 star of the game Benedict Mathern, who has had such 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:55.560 an interesting playoffs. So Matherin who the Pacers beat Demonse 0:05:55.720 --> 0:06:00.200 because they never tank, don't have a lot of of 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:04.159 super high draft picks on their team, and in fact, 0:06:04.279 --> 0:06:07.040 I think like, I don't know if it's franchise history 0:06:07.160 --> 0:06:09.960 like the last thirty years or something, but there's only 0:06:10.000 --> 0:06:13.719 two guys that they have drafted in the top nine 0:06:13.800 --> 0:06:16.600 or something. I'm gonna get that those details a little wrong, 0:06:16.680 --> 0:06:19.840 but it's about that Mathern and a kid who's hurt, 0:06:20.800 --> 0:06:25.200 and Matherin was kind of it looked like, oh wait, 0:06:25.440 --> 0:06:31.200 is he gonna be odd man out? When in the 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:37.799 Cleveland series Game four he basically gets a DMP coaches decision. 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:43.160 Game five he only plays eleven minutes. Then against the 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:50.200 Knicks Game two, eleven minutes, zero points, Game three, eight minutes, 0:06:50.279 --> 0:06:54.160 two points, and it looked like Carlisle was souring on it. 0:06:55.880 --> 0:07:01.360 And then Mathern has had in the last six games 0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:09.680 three just unbelievable stat lines off the bench Game four 0:07:09.760 --> 0:07:16.120 against the Knicks twelve minutes, twenty points, Game five against 0:07:16.120 --> 0:07:21.880 the Knicks twenty five minutes, twenty three points, and then 0:07:22.040 --> 0:07:26.920 last night Game three against the Thunder twenty two minutes, 0:07:27.600 --> 0:07:31.480 twenty seven points. And I'm gonna pull it up so 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:35.160 we have it exactly. But since he was basically it 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:40.720 looked like, oh man, is Carlisle done with him. In 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:47.240 the six games since then, Benedict Mathern has played one 0:07:47.360 --> 0:07:53.280 hundred and six minutes and scored ninety three points. The 0:07:53.320 --> 0:07:57.160 guy is basically a point a minute over his last 0:07:57.160 --> 0:08:01.000 six games. None more important or no worthy than last 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:06.560 night when nobody had an answer for him, when he 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:12.280 just he was the X factor off the bench for them, 0:08:12.800 --> 0:08:19.760 and all I'm just so yes, listen, TJ McConnell did 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:23.440 TJ McConnell things. And he loves getting those steals in 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:29.560 the back court. You know, he's just a white man's 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:34.680 Jose Alvarado, like I'm gonna play this scrappy style, I'm 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:37.480 gonna annoy you. He doesn't. He doesn't go out of 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:40.840 bounds and and trick people like that. But he's a pest. 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:45.240 And one of his steals, the one where he just 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:49.400 caught the inbound pass and laid it up, was one 0:08:49.440 --> 0:08:52.520 of the dopest things. That was one of the coolest 0:08:52.960 --> 0:08:59.679 many highlights of the season. He just jumps up and. 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:01.000 A couple times with that. 0:09:01.400 --> 0:09:05.960 Yeah, and so he had he made three baskets, I 0:09:06.040 --> 0:09:09.520 feel like they were and he had five steals. So 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:15.080 TJ McConnell off the bench, five steals, Obi Toppin off 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:19.640 the bench four of five from two and some big rebounds, 0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:24.040 and Ben matherin man nine of twelve, got to the 0:09:24.040 --> 0:09:26.520 free throw line eight times, which is another thing he 0:09:26.559 --> 0:09:29.640 did against the Knicks. He drew fouls and got to 0:09:29.679 --> 0:09:33.000 the line. He's plus sixteen and twenty two minutes. 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:35.600 He's okay. See, another thing to have to worry about. 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:40.880 One hundred percent and credit where it's due to Halliburton, 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:47.520 because Halliburton the point that I made. Now, let me 0:09:47.559 --> 0:09:53.480 just be clear here. My playoff bracket and my playoff 0:09:53.520 --> 0:09:59.880 predictions are in shambles. I have been wrong about three 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:04.560 series picks, more this playoffs than any playoffs I can remember. 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:07.959 And better of the year, which we'll get to later, 0:10:08.360 --> 0:10:15.720 is on life support. It's truly on life support. My 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:20.839 in series analysis has been far better. And one of 0:10:20.880 --> 0:10:25.960 the points that I'm excuse me, I apologize. One of 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:30.800 the points I made after game two was the Pacers 0:10:30.880 --> 0:10:34.520 need to recognize you are not playing a good shot, 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:39.360 good shot, great shot team. You are playing a bad shot, 0:10:39.400 --> 0:10:44.480 decent shot. Take the shot. And it felt like Halliburton 0:10:44.600 --> 0:10:51.840 understood that. That Haliburton, when his teammates go five of 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:55.880 twenty one from three, when aside from Mathern, nobody hits 0:10:55.920 --> 0:11:02.640 more than one three, When aside from Siakam, none of 0:11:02.640 --> 0:11:06.280 the other starters really seem like they have it offensively, 0:11:06.640 --> 0:11:10.200 he understood, I've got to be a little more aggressive 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:13.960 looking for my own shot, and he did. Now he's 0:11:13.960 --> 0:11:16.319 still the ball was still popping and moving, and he's 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:18.880 still had his eleven assists, and he was a rebound 0:11:18.880 --> 0:11:21.679 shy of a triple dobbel. But he was a little 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:29.560 more aggressive offensively. And here's the other thing the Pacers do, man, 0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:37.280 they wear your ass out where they are. And the 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:41.760 part of this is because Carlisle trusts the bench like 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:46.319 it is remarkable demonse that in a basketball game. That 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:50.080 keep in mind, I thought the thunder kind of stole 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:55.760 the game a sneaky what could have been a sneaky 0:11:56.040 --> 0:12:04.600 huge moment was the very end of the third quarter 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:10.800 when the Pacers are up one with thirty five seconds 0:12:10.880 --> 0:12:16.920 left and Check gets a dunk and one. Now they're 0:12:17.000 --> 0:12:21.880 up too. McConnell misses, you know, like a five footer, 0:12:22.440 --> 0:12:26.520 and then j Dubb hits a three basically at the 0:12:27.080 --> 0:12:30.880 quarter buzzer, and it went from oh, the Pacers are 0:12:30.880 --> 0:12:33.520 gonna have the lead going into the fourth to the 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:37.240 Pacers are down five going into the fourth, and then 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:40.319 it didn't you know, they crushed him in the fourth 0:12:40.360 --> 0:12:46.240 thirty two to eighteen. But the fact that Halliburton in 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:49.360 what I felt was a gotta have it, must win 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:54.679 game that was nip and tuck really throughout. He only 0:12:54.679 --> 0:13:00.680 played thirty six minutes. Like Halliburton has not played forty 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:05.640 minutes in a regulation playoff game this year, which is 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:08.280 maybe one of the reasons he's so good at the end. 0:13:08.640 --> 0:13:11.840 But a de testament to the Pacers that they're able 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:15.000 to do that have their best player on the bench 0:13:15.040 --> 0:13:19.360 and not get blown out and the thunder at the 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:24.599 end of this game, we're the tired team. What a performance. 0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:28.480 And it is not lost on me that I said 0:13:28.559 --> 0:13:32.480 this was to me the most shocking singular Finals game 0:13:32.840 --> 0:13:40.160 for me since Game five twenty eleven MAVs heat. And 0:13:40.240 --> 0:13:42.920 the coach of the team that pulled off that upset 0:13:43.440 --> 0:13:45.360 and the coach of the team that pulled off this 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:50.439 upset are the same guy, Rick Carlisle, who I imagine 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:54.000 once the Finals are over, the Knicks are going to say, hey, 0:13:54.040 --> 0:14:02.679 can we interview him? So demonimia. 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:06.600 One of the questions from the chat, Oh yeah, so, 0:14:06.679 --> 0:14:09.240 anonymous three to five four says Nick, what do you 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:11.240 think has been the issue with a lot of pundits 0:14:11.280 --> 0:14:14.160 getting behind the Pacers as a good team an autymous 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:14.760 three five four. 0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:17.319 I've been there with you, but go ahead, so listen. 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:22.120 I don't think people have denied that the Pacers are 0:14:22.120 --> 0:14:28.440 a good team. I do think people have. I think 0:14:28.440 --> 0:14:32.040 it's fair to say people have not acted as if 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:35.480 the fact that they have the second best record in 0:14:35.560 --> 0:14:40.800 basketball since and I don't think have lost consecutive games 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:45.560 since January one. I think that people have dismissed that, 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:48.960 maybe a little more than they should have. But I 0:14:49.000 --> 0:14:53.880 think this was less about a dismissal of Indiana and 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:58.400 more about a reverence for OKAC, who, if we're being honest, 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:05.120 through to games controlled ninety six percent of this series, 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:11.160 ninety six minutes played. OKC led for ninety one, was 0:15:11.320 --> 0:15:14.160 tied for two and a half, and trailed for two 0:15:15.080 --> 0:15:23.800 like that's but yesterday was not that? Who do you 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:26.240 have winning it all? 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I don't think the honest thing is guaranteed 0:17:23.240 --> 0:17:26.200 that he's asking for a trade, but I certainly don't 0:17:26.200 --> 0:17:29.280 think it's guaranteed that he's staying in Milwaukee, but the 0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:34.120 Yannis trade is going to be more complicated and two 0:17:34.240 --> 0:17:38.320 thirds of the league are going to be interested. There 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:44.600 seems to be a lot of smoke surrounding Durant and 0:17:44.880 --> 0:17:50.760 the Spurs. That's a fun one that I'm interested in, 0:17:52.480 --> 0:17:56.760 But I do not think that team can win a championship. 0:17:57.680 --> 0:18:00.280 I just don't think Wimby is ready yet. 0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:06.160 To be Kevin Durant's goal. What a question. 0:18:07.800 --> 0:18:08.919 Do you not think it is? 0:18:10.000 --> 0:18:11.800 I mean, he wants to go play in San Antonio, 0:18:11.880 --> 0:18:13.920 it doesn't necessarily seem like it is. I don't think 0:18:13.920 --> 0:18:16.200 that he thinks that he's the missing piece from San 0:18:16.280 --> 0:18:17.920 Antonio getting to a championship. 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:20.040 Well, and to be fair, we don't know where he 0:18:20.080 --> 0:18:24.200 wants to go play but san Antonio, but it seems 0:18:24.200 --> 0:18:28.040 like go ahead. I'm sorry, no, I mean, listen, the Spurs. 0:18:28.119 --> 0:18:32.119 It's not like if he were to go to Miami 0:18:32.960 --> 0:18:36.199 and pick Miami, then I would say he's not that 0:18:36.359 --> 0:18:39.239 worried about winning a title because they can't win, right. 0:18:39.280 --> 0:18:42.120 You know, with respect to him, you'd have to give 0:18:42.200 --> 0:18:44.600 up something for him, even if you've got a hero 0:18:44.840 --> 0:18:51.959 and bam, that team's not good enough. The Spurs. Castle's good, 0:18:52.920 --> 0:18:58.359 Dearn Fox is really good, Wimby has unlimited upside. And 0:18:58.400 --> 0:19:01.639 if Durance still feels like I'm the you know, fifth 0:19:01.680 --> 0:19:04.080 best player in the NBA, even if he's closer to 0:19:04.080 --> 0:19:06.800 the fifteenth best player in the NBA, Like, it's not 0:19:06.880 --> 0:19:09.840 like he'd be going somewhere where they have no shot whatsoever. 0:19:10.960 --> 0:19:17.080 The So the Spurs to me are interesting, but it 0:19:17.160 --> 0:19:24.359 wouldn't put them over the top. I am those other 0:19:24.520 --> 0:19:29.720 three teams. You could maybe convince me on any of them. 0:19:30.240 --> 0:19:34.000 That man, that team could win the title if you 0:19:34.160 --> 0:19:38.920 took away Jalen Green's minutes and gave them to Kevin Durant. 0:19:39.880 --> 0:19:44.919 They beat the Warriors, like that's that's not even to 0:19:44.960 --> 0:19:49.280 me a question. They beat the Warriors and then they 0:19:49.320 --> 0:19:51.280 have a real you know what I mean, a real 0:19:51.359 --> 0:19:56.400 shot next year, Shingoon a little better. You know, you're 0:19:56.400 --> 0:19:58.760 gonna have a great defense with Udoka Like that, to me, 0:19:59.000 --> 0:20:02.600 that team is really interesting. Now that's the perfect honest team. 0:20:03.160 --> 0:20:10.760 But Houston is really interesting. Anthony Edwards plus Durant, if 0:20:10.840 --> 0:20:14.959 Ant can level up just to touch that one's interesting. 0:20:15.960 --> 0:20:20.879 And the Knicks. I don't think the Knicks necessarily would 0:20:20.880 --> 0:20:25.160 be better than the Knicks with Durant, wouldn't necessarily better 0:20:25.280 --> 0:20:28.560 be better than Houston or Minnesota with Durant, but because 0:20:28.640 --> 0:20:31.560 one's in the East and ones in the West like 0:20:31.680 --> 0:20:40.080 the Knicks, would be a really fascinating one and one 0:20:40.160 --> 0:20:44.439 that I would be really interested in seeing how it 0:20:44.520 --> 0:20:50.680 plays out. I do think KD has at least one 0:20:50.800 --> 0:20:56.840 more elite year left in the tank. And I also 0:20:56.920 --> 0:21:01.240 think people need to understand because of his kind, he's 0:21:01.440 --> 0:21:04.919 not easy to trade. So like the idea, I know 0:21:05.000 --> 0:21:08.200 that Shams has said, or Shams has said, there are 0:21:08.280 --> 0:21:13.840 wild card suitors. You gotta find wild card suitors that 0:21:14.080 --> 0:21:18.840 aren't second Apron and can get the salaries together and 0:21:18.920 --> 0:21:23.320 all of that. And so I would imagine, just my 0:21:23.520 --> 0:21:27.679 guess that one of the wild card suitors is the Clippers. 0:21:28.280 --> 0:21:31.800 That'd be a very hard trade to pull off. And 0:21:31.840 --> 0:21:35.000 that's when I wouldn't like to see. Yeah, I've seen 0:21:35.080 --> 0:21:39.760 Durant with Harden, I'm not And like Kawhi's an injury risk, 0:21:39.840 --> 0:21:43.399 Durant's an injury risk. I'd like to see Durant be 0:21:43.560 --> 0:21:47.119 the old VET on a young team, like you know 0:21:47.119 --> 0:21:49.200 what I mean. I think that would be I think 0:21:49.240 --> 0:21:52.760 that would be fun. But Durant is one hundred percent 0:21:52.960 --> 0:21:57.240 getting traded. Yannis might get traded, and then we'll see 0:21:57.240 --> 0:22:00.560 what the other moves are. All right? Do we have 0:22:00.640 --> 0:22:03.399 a couple listener questions demand we can get too quickly 0:22:03.440 --> 0:22:05.040 before I got to get out of here. Uh? 0:22:05.160 --> 0:22:06.320 Yeah, we'll catch ass. 0:22:06.520 --> 0:22:09.560 Which is more likely Thunder coming back or Demonte's rec 0:22:09.600 --> 0:22:11.399 lead team turning it around. 0:22:11.640 --> 0:22:13.879 What's the answer. 0:22:14.840 --> 0:22:18.240 I'd honestly say Demandy's rec league team turning it around. 0:22:18.600 --> 0:22:20.879 Wow, I think. 0:22:20.640 --> 0:22:23.880 That the Pacers. I just think the Pacers are gonna 0:22:23.880 --> 0:22:26.399 win this series. Man, that would be great. Can I 0:22:26.520 --> 0:22:30.639 just say something else? And I'm gonna bring I'm gonna 0:22:30.640 --> 0:22:36.000 bring my our pods set up with us to Miami. 0:22:37.200 --> 0:22:43.120 And if the Pacers win Game four Friday night, all 0:22:43.280 --> 0:22:47.160 do sometimes Saturday morning, some emergency pod type of thing. 0:22:48.119 --> 0:22:51.080 It would be awesome. If the Pacers win. I'm like, 0:22:51.200 --> 0:22:53.280 I don't think they're going to, but it would be awesome. 0:22:53.680 --> 0:22:56.920 Joseph says, what's up with the gun show today? Demanse 0:22:57.080 --> 0:23:00.040 looking all jacked? You know what's so funny? And this 0:23:00.119 --> 0:23:02.200 is a compliment, Demonsey, don't take this the wrong way. 0:23:02.920 --> 0:23:05.159 I actually was thinking the opposite. I was like, you 0:23:05.200 --> 0:23:07.040 need to hit those push ups a little bit more. Man, 0:23:07.280 --> 0:23:12.159 You're not as I do though, no for real, like again, 0:23:12.320 --> 0:23:14.920 like I mean, you're in great shape and a great athlete, 0:23:15.160 --> 0:23:18.520 but just for like when I saw you in your jersey, 0:23:18.560 --> 0:23:20.440 I'm like, oh, Demans is a little skinnier than he 0:23:20.720 --> 0:23:21.680 was a few months ago. 0:23:22.200 --> 0:23:26.200 Like, appreciate Joseph. 0:23:26.240 --> 0:23:30.960 Sorry, but Nick, right, muse what did he say? Tomanse 0:23:31.400 --> 0:23:32.840 quick grammar check for Nick. 0:23:32.920 --> 0:23:35.880 I know Nick will appreciate this. He said change tack 0:23:36.240 --> 0:23:38.199 a couple of times now on First Things First and 0:23:38.240 --> 0:23:39.880 the Herd, and it's changed tack. 0:23:41.440 --> 0:23:46.160 Really, it's so that, thank you. I do appreciate that. 0:23:46.520 --> 0:23:50.560 I have said they need to change their tacked tact 0:23:51.320 --> 0:23:54.480 and he's saying that the phrases it needs to change tack, 0:23:54.640 --> 0:23:56.720 which is t a c K. I didn't know that. 0:23:56.920 --> 0:23:58.000 I'll look up why that is. 0:23:58.119 --> 0:23:58.760 I had no idea. 0:24:04.280 --> 0:24:08.399 Yeah, Lebron might be the NBA's leading scorer, but what 0:24:08.480 --> 0:24:09.720 does that mean when you got no. 0:24:09.920 --> 0:24:12.040 Bag on mine? 0:24:12.040 --> 0:24:14.520 In the game, Lebron said, I see all the time 0:24:14.960 --> 0:24:17.840 I'll be on social media and like Lebron has no bag. 0:24:18.280 --> 0:24:19.000 Lebron has no. 0:24:19.080 --> 0:24:22.000 Bag, and I'm sitting here like I got fifty billion points. 0:24:22.280 --> 0:24:24.560 I thought he should have said I've got fifty billion chips, 0:24:25.000 --> 0:24:26.879 like word played on like a bag of chips. 0:24:27.680 --> 0:24:30.760 But Lebron be the undisputed goat if he's got no bag. 0:24:31.600 --> 0:24:33.800 Okay, so let me go. Let me ask you this, 0:24:34.840 --> 0:24:40.760 what do you think having a bag means? Because it's 0:24:41.960 --> 0:24:45.120 this is not an agreed upon definition, and I think 0:24:45.160 --> 0:24:47.359 that is an important piece to it. So I'm curious 0:24:47.440 --> 0:24:49.000 where you what you think? 0:24:49.480 --> 0:24:53.040 Okay, I think having a bag is is James Harden 0:24:53.440 --> 0:24:56.720 that's like like Steph Curry, just just a go to 0:24:57.000 --> 0:24:58.560 move or or a bag of. 0:24:58.640 --> 0:25:00.840 Moves that you can go to to break the defender down. 0:25:01.320 --> 0:25:03.280 I just think it's offense. It's offensive game. 0:25:03.640 --> 0:25:07.639 I don't think it's anything outside of that. No, So 0:25:07.760 --> 0:25:12.480 it's and it's it's definitely offense and definitely related to scoring, right, 0:25:12.640 --> 0:25:15.399 Like I think everybody agrees on that. So here is 0:25:15.520 --> 0:25:20.119 what I think is fair and true, and here is 0:25:20.200 --> 0:25:24.000 what I think is just nonsense. Right. So I think, 0:25:25.600 --> 0:25:30.359 what do you think the weakest part of Lebron's offensive 0:25:30.440 --> 0:25:33.000 game is? Because I think it's very clear. I think 0:25:33.040 --> 0:25:40.000 there is one thing that offensively he is average at 0:25:40.920 --> 0:25:42.760 I would say it's just league average. 0:25:44.359 --> 0:25:46.720 Could stop, go, stop start. 0:25:47.640 --> 0:25:51.040 Well, maybe we're saying the same thing just general ball handling. 0:25:51.640 --> 0:25:52.920 Oh okay, he's not an elite. 0:25:53.200 --> 0:25:56.200 He's not an elite ball handler. And so if people 0:25:56.560 --> 0:26:02.200 if by bag they mean like a Kyrie's style, like 0:26:02.440 --> 0:26:07.359 fifteen dribble move, then sure, then yeah, Lebron's not going 0:26:07.440 --> 0:26:11.439 to be one of your top thirty picks of people 0:26:11.480 --> 0:26:14.720 when it comes to ball handling like the he I 0:26:14.800 --> 0:26:19.200 think Durant at seven feet tall might be a better 0:26:19.359 --> 0:26:22.359 ball handler like I do. And so like that is 0:26:22.440 --> 0:26:27.720 to me, that's a if that's what people are talking about, 0:26:27.920 --> 0:26:34.720 that's actually accurate. Now to Lebron's point, is it possible 0:26:35.800 --> 0:26:41.159 that not just kids on Twitter, but also retired NBA 0:26:41.359 --> 0:26:48.800 players on horrific podcasts wildly overrate the bag. If to 0:26:48.960 --> 0:26:53.760 Lebron's point, he's got fifty thousand points and doesn't have one, 0:26:54.240 --> 0:26:58.239 then yeah, then maybe it's not quite as important as 0:26:58.280 --> 0:27:02.040 you think. So if we're just saying bag is ball handling, 0:27:02.880 --> 0:27:08.920 then it's probably it's probably true. Here is where I 0:27:09.119 --> 0:27:17.520