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Speaker 3: but I got a million dollar check like that, Hey,

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the black Outs podcast, your host Rod and

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Speaker 3: k and we're live on a Sunday, and I'm just

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Speaker 3: gonna let you guys know ahead of time my car

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Speaker 3: Cause them breaks was grind they was grinding. Imost like,

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Speaker 3: what is that grinding? Grinding? Shout out to having enough

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Speaker 3: because we ain't always been in that position. We used

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Speaker 1: Right, And even if the light is on, you were like,

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Speaker 3: Payeecks Like I'm not We're not rich or nothing, but

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Speaker 1: You know, if we might have to save up there

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Speaker 3: what was hot on Twitter? Doctor dre mmm, who is

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Speaker 3: and for full disclosure, doctor Dre. You know, after he

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Speaker 3: So he donated the old school way.

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Speaker 3: So, you know, I saw people on you know, Twitter

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Speaker 3: Because white people still racist. They they was like, we're

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Speaker 5: Right, And they were fucking children.

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Speaker 7: You ain't die, okay, but it don't mean it's not

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Speaker 3: obviously still too young to be an adult. And that's

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00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,920
Speaker 3: that like money spot for for for Robert Kelly, but

432
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 3: for Michael Jackson. He didn't do this to every kid,

433
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,639
Speaker 3: not to every family he picked and choose the families

434
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 3: he could get away with this ship with. You know,

435
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 3: if you had a rich, powerful family, if you had

436
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 3: a family with like a uh like Mcaulay Colchin, they're

437
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,879
Speaker 3: not He's not gonna do that. Means yeah, Corey failed me.

438
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 3: He's not gonna do that to him.

439
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 8: You know.

440
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,159
Speaker 3: But this kid from Australia, none of us fucking know.

441
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 3: They don't have the money and the power, the means

442
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 3: or the fame to do anything like right to really

443
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,919
Speaker 3: do anything. You know that no one would want to believe,

444
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,639
Speaker 3: you know, Mcaulay Cochin said that ship. We want to

445
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 3: believe Macaulay Cochin is not lying. We don't care about

446
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 3: these guys like that. And so yeah, it's just funny

447
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 3: to see the complete difference when it comes to male victims.

448
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 3: I think that's a huge part of it.

449
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 5: Agreed.

450
00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 3: So so that was you know, and I think and

451
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 3: it's not just her, there's a lot of people that

452
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 3: have defended him tacitly or whatever and not cared. I

453
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 3: guess Dinah Ross said something she oh yeah, she tweeted

454
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 3: over the weekend, this is what's in my heart this morning.

455
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 3: I believe in trust that Michael Jackson was and is

456
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 3: a magnificent, incredible force to me and many others. Stopping

457
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 3: the name of love that seemed like a don't please

458
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:34,679
Speaker 3: stop talking about this, his assaults and all this abuse

459
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 3: and shit, Like the motherfuckers cannot get over the fact

460
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,399
Speaker 3: that they were close to him or liked him. And

461
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,640
Speaker 3: I don't expect them to be unbiased, to be fair.

462
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 3: You know, it's probably hard to be and it's probably

463
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 3: hard to stay silent while this shit goes on. But

464
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 3: trust I know, y'all don't want to look into the

465
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 3: allegations and y'all don't want to hear these guys get

466
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 3: that side of the story. Y'all talk about victims and

467
00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 3: people having voices and people need to talk, but they

468
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 3: don't want to see that shit. What you really mean, Yeah,

469
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 3: they don't really mean it. People like that shit when

470
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,880
Speaker 3: they like it. I've said many times on the show,

471
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 3: people's morality kind of stops and stars with do I

472
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 3: like this person? That determines on what you're gonna let

473
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 3: them get away with. Michael Jackson's in the state fights

474
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 3: back against Leaving Neverland with documentary. With the twenty four

475
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,399
Speaker 3: page document full of quote unquote truth that challenge the

476
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 3: accused of stories. Okay, let's see what these are. Okay.

477
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 3: Apparently the family's taking a step further telling us side

478
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 3: of the story with their truth. The Jackson family provided

479
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,640
Speaker 3: a billboard with a twenty four page working PowerPoint document

480
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,719
Speaker 3: title Leaving Neverland and the Truth that questions the accuses, memories,

481
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,679
Speaker 3: and the filmmakers motives in detail. The state also attached

482
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 3: recent news clips in which the singer's defense turned to

483
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:56,159
Speaker 3: call accusations hogwash. The document goes into detail about the

484
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 3: documentary being biased and inconsistent, and notes that the footage

485
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 3: that was free was quote unquote misused. One of the

486
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 3: examples that state mentioned was when Robson says Jackson invited

487
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 3: him to sleep in his bed, but his deposition the

488
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 3: material states he makes clear that he and his sister

489
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 3: were the ones that initiated di idea and that Michael

490
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 3: assisted they asked their parents. The film also portrays Jackson

491
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 3: wishing Robson a happy birthday in a video suggesting the

492
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 3: creepy predatory nanner, which he recorded numerous similar greetings around

493
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:28,360
Speaker 3: the same time. That state says, Okay, no offense. None

494
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 3: of that is proof that none of that is truths. Really,

495
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:37,959
Speaker 3: what you can say is his deposition contradicted what he's

496
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 3: saying as a grown man. If you watch the documentary,

497
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 3: he is aware of that and is telling you, as

498
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 3: a kid, I actually was so enamored and groomed by

499
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:52,920
Speaker 3: this man and so like confused romantically as a child

500
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 3: who should not be in a romantic relationship with a

501
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 3: grown ass man. I relished the fact that I could

502
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,360
Speaker 3: go to trial and protect him right, so I could

503
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 3: not wait to be the boy who was saying this

504
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 3: did not happen. What I find ironic is that these

505
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 3: same fucking people would be like that thirteen year old

506
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 3: girl that was on video table R Kelly, who then

507
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 3: got in the courtroom and said that's not me on

508
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 3: the tape. Y'all'll be like, well, she live because she's

509
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 3: groomed by him and she's still with him to this day.

510
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 3: Y'all would say that, So how can you not see it? Here?

511
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 3: It's from his own voice. He is telling you you

512
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 3: don't have to assume anything. This is what the fuck happened. No,

513
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take your word as an eleven year old

514
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,479
Speaker 3: child over you as a grown ass man. You clearly

515
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 3: know nothing now, you know, even though I did it

516
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 3: this for some type of money and shit, Michael Jackson

517
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 3: actually did pay off somebody a long time ago to

518
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 3: avoid a trial a lot of money. By the way,

519
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 3: these men are grown. Michael Jackson is dead. What money

520
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 3: They not suing the estate, not that there would be

521
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 3: anything wrong with that, By the way, I don't like

522
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 3: a lot of people have this shit completely confused. If

523
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 3: I can't get criminal justice against the motherfucker, I will

524
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,959
Speaker 3: sue them for every penny I can get because I'm

525
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 3: gonna make them hurt. Fuck them. I don't owe them shit.

526
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 3: Never understood that mentality, You just they're just trying to

527
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 3: get some money. Yeah, like all the other rich rape

528
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 3: victims where they at point them out comeone where they

529
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 3: at y'all fuck out of here. Just the fact that

530
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 3: people have taken money from like Harvey Wanstein that still

531
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 3: ended up being like I'm going to sue you, Bill Cosby,

532
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 3: I'm going to sue you. You paid me to be silent.

533
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 3: I actually don't want to be solid. I'm glad you

534
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 3: lied so that I could get understand and go this

535
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 3: man's a rapist. Like, but people try to reduce it

536
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 3: to just some money. Well, I got the money, I

537
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 3: could just quit right now, I can ask for some

538
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 3: more money. They never say, uh like it never turned

539
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 3: around and charges people with extortion and put them in jail,

540
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 3: do they because they not asking for the fucking money?

541
00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 3: But facts don't matter when you like somebody. It's just crazy. Also,

542
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 3: so I know you're like, Okay, what's the rest of

543
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 3: the truth? Twenty four pages of PowerPoint truths that clearly

544
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 3: just expose these guys' lives, right the document is not

545
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 3: available to the public, what.

546
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 7: Well, then you ain't got twenty four PowerPoint pretty colors,

547
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 7: twely you know, picture shit, you know, with background music,

548
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 7: PowerPoint presentation.

549
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 3: Then what are we talking about here? The document is

550
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 3: not available to well, then it don't fucking matter to

551
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 3: the public. The public don't give a fuck if they

552
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 3: can't read it. But you got the proof A lie,

553
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 3: the lie. You got the proof though, Now I got

554
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 3: the proof right here, I just can't show nobody, you know,

555
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 3: it's just I mean he did. So if you the state,

556
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 3: this old guns holder, protect this man's legacy, you would

557
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 3: think if they had, I would just feel like if

558
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 3: I had, what is it inconvertible, inc controversial whatever. If

559
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 3: I had proof that could notot that was so solid,

560
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 3: it would prove all this shit is made up, and

561
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 3: my homie, my brother, my son, my whatever is completely exonerated.

562
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 3: And all I have to do is simply put it

563
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 3: out twenty four pages a PowerPoint. Guess what I would do, y'all.

564
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 5: Somebody would find a way that magically get it out there.

565
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 3: Yeah. Right, so but okay, y'all keep people. But see

566
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 3: that's the other thing though, this hits at the real

567
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 3: point of this. People believe what they want to believe, agreed,

568
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 3: So there's gonna be people walking around like, see, I

569
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 3: told y'all they got proof. Okay, did you read the article?

570
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 3: They had twenty four pages of proof and the truth

571
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 3: is out there. Just look it up for yourself and

572
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 3: be like, but okay.

573
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 5: If we don't have the twenty four points, right, got it?

574
00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 6: Uh?

575
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 3: Bishop Bishop Talbert Swan says Pastor John Gray is lying

576
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 3: about his emotional affair. Oh this the dude we've been

577
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 3: talking about for a while. I bought us wipe that

578
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 3: car and having an affair. Now they're doing that retreat.

579
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 3: That is who we've been talking about. Karen. John Gray

580
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 3: is the is the guy, uh, the pastor with the

581
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 3: emotional affair? He yeah, he said it was not physical.

582
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 3: It is emotional affair. Well, it looks like it's gonna

583
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,959
Speaker 3: be some drama in the church because Bishop Talbert Swan

584
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 3: is saying that Pastor John Gray is a goddamn line.

585
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 3: When he claimed he had just had an emotional affair

586
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 3: with a strange woman, Swan wrote on Twitter earlier today,

587
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 3: don't let your husband tell you it was an emotional

588
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 3: affair and I never touched her after a year long

589
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 3: relationship that included hotel stage shopping, freeze out of the

590
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 3: country trips, paying bills, I love you, voicemails and buy

591
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 3: her a BMW. He's lying. The tweet also included a

592
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 3: link to Pastor John Gray's story. Oh he is spelling

593
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 3: all the church teeth, spinning all the communion wine. Listen,

594
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 3: he was out here like, I don't really give a

595
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 3: fuck what y'all think. I know that this nigga is

596
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 3: a lie and the word needs to be put out

597
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 3: on this man.

598
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 1: He is lying to you, sis, spinning all the wine. No,

599
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: we're not spending the community juice. We spilled were knocking

600
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: over the communion wine, the body of Christ.

601
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 3: He was like, the truth. I'm gonna tell the truth.

602
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 3: Right he came. He came prepared like he's like, I

603
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 3: know the rest of y'all think that this is a game,

604
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 3: but your boy can't prepared with all the facts and

605
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 3: all the receipts the truth. Mm hmm.

606
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: And we're gonna be no, no, we ain't doing them

607
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: them little dry wayfers they give you.

608
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 5: We we breaking off the bread from the by. Were

609
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 5: getting a real deal, y'all.

610
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 3: An emotional affair, uh swam. In addition to woman who

611
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 3: claims to be that strange woman, did an interview with

612
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 3: Larry Reid. Allegedly she knew Great for two decades before

613
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 3: he supposedly pursued her. The woman, who chose to remain

614
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 3: anonymous at one point said in the interview she ran

615
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 3: to financial issues. It snowballed into I just love you

616
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 3: so much. I always loved you, I always thought about you,

617
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 3: I always cared about you. Then he was going through

618
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 3: stuff with his wife, and he was saying how he

619
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 3: didn't like her, didn't love her, and that he was

620
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 3: never attracted to her, that he only married her because

621
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 3: she looked good on paper. His exact words, she don't suck,

622
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 3: she don't fuck, she ain't never watched a pair of

623
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 3: my draws. Mm mmmmmm. So this is said, what does

624
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 3: this start doing? Video unavailable? I watch it on YouTube. Okay,

625
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 3: well let's try that again. Damn compared to what he

626
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 3: said about the topic in January, so he so he changed. Okay,

627
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 3: let me let me all right, let's let's get to

628
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 3: the bottom of this first. Let's go to the YouTube

629
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 3: interview portion of The Church Tea. Okay, uh. On the

630
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 3: next episode of The Church Is Tea, Right, the Church

631
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 3: Tea with the Communion Juice. The next episode of Communion Wine,

632
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 3: Larry Read. So is Larry read like a church like

633
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 3: talk show something? Do y'all know what this is? You

634
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 3: know what I mean? Like, is this something that's been

635
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 3: going on for a while with the like you do

636
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 3: church stuff? Or is he just like a regular talk

637
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 3: show host and he just happened to get into church's

638
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:49,359
Speaker 3: business this time?

639
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 9: All right, let me see, it's not easy, but they're

640
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:57,760
Speaker 9: having to do it in front of the whole world.

641
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 3: Let me get to the part where I think it

642
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 3: said one fifteen, So skip for a little bit Okay,

643
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 3: that's one o eight. What about here? Was this one thirteen?

644
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 3: So gotta be around here. But yeah, he went found

645
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 3: oh girl, he said, I'm a he said, I got

646
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,280
Speaker 3: a PowerPoint presentation and it's one person.

647
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 9: Because you don't want to have no JOBY want really alive,

648
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 9: to go up in flames.

649
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 2: I just.

650
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 1: I do.

651
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,720
Speaker 9: I feel remustful because I know how a woman really

652
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 9: or a person really want to believe the best. But

653
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 9: you have to pay a during attention, pay a during attention,

654
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 9: then after you hear what this girl is saying, because

655
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 9: you can't just hear once the adventure. The only thing

656
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 9: you've heard is what he said. You haven't even talked

657
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 9: to the girl to tell you said. You don't even

658
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 9: want to see her, and it's not important to see her.

659
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 9: She wants security, she wants to believe her husband. She

660
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,720
Speaker 9: wants to do the work of the Lord. She also

661
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 9: wants to continue to drive nice cars and living nice stuff.

662
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 9: Like she said in the thing that that's one of

663
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 9: their commonalities was cars. And she can tell you when

664
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,320
Speaker 9: the car about to change, the body shape and everything

665
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 9: be how many years that she's really into cars. But

666
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 9: you guys, I'm just gonna play it. It's a three

667
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 9: hour initial conversation December the thirtieth that I had with

668
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 9: the mistress. Only me had this conversation, and I have

669
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 9: all of the audio from our conversations. This is just

670
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:40,280
Speaker 9: the initial conversation.

671
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 3: You're gonna hear Hernna so her friend. He gonna make

672
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 3: this a whole true crime podcast. Come on, come on,

673
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 3: come on, he the Holo Coast d TMZ. What is

674
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 3: happening here he go. It's gonna be church Town season three.

675
00:36:55,880 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 3: Come on, Churchtown. Get some character witnesses.

676
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 9: That was on the line with me who was in

677
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 9: the midst of this, along with Baby Jake's and his

678
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 9: legal representative or somebody that on his admin staff.

679
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 3: They were all in this.

680
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 9: But listen to this conversation twenty minutes. Listen carefully because

681
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 9: then we're gonna talk and I'm gonna open up the lines.

682
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 3: Let's go.

683
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 2: I've known him for a very very very very.

684
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:33,399
Speaker 8: Very half of my life.

685
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 3: So one of the last time y'all were frecking what

686
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 3: wait wait did he just go on YouTube? At first

687
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 3: he was like, durn, gosh, durn, you got to be

688
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 3: the darn truth. It's about the past. And one of

689
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 3: the last time, y'all was fucking I mean, let's just

690
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,879
Speaker 3: mean right into the ty Hey, don't he sound like that? Dude?

691
00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 3: Do they talk to the the people after of the

692
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 3: on the shows? What is that white dude?

693
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 1: Oh?

694
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 3: He do them shows? Oh? Terry Crews was on there.

695
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 3: He asked him a question, what watch what happens live?

696
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: Right? Is this?

697
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 3: What is this a black man?

698
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 8: No?

699
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 3: No, just a black man?

700
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 5: What's his vision? Watch what happened?

701
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:23,879
Speaker 3: Church? I guess watch what's Yeah? Watch what's having? Live?

702
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 3: Choir edition. I agree. When the last time, I was, well,

703
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 3: that's when everything stopped. Yeah, that's when the beginning of summer,

704
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:40,720
Speaker 3: because it was like June that was so my friend

705
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 3: is going through a hard break up up Mayor he

706
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 3: was mainly there for her, and.

707
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,879
Speaker 2: He was and he was the one that was see

708
00:38:52,880 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 2: what happened? Was he actually like he it started with

709
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 2: him just well, he likes to say, breathing life into me.

710
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 2: And so he was just you know there as far

711
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 2: as just you know my situation, just talking to me

712
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 2: pretty much.

713
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 3: Pasturing me, ministering to me or whatever.

714
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 2: And you know, just that. And I called on him

715
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,959
Speaker 2: to do a favor for a person that I knew

716
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 2: that that was having struggling with some addiction issues, and

717
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 2: so I called upon him to help with that. It

718
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 2: was an employee of mine and that employee, that employee

719
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 2: actually wound up speaking with him and they talked for

720
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 2: a good amount of time and it got him like

721
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 2: straight on a straight and narrow or whatever. And then

722
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 2: so I just took him a text message telling him

723
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 2: thank you, you know, because I see the difference than

724
00:39:55,280 --> 00:40:00,720
Speaker 2: my employee and whatever else. And he said, you know whatever,

725
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 2: He basically whatever you need, you know, whatever, whatever, and

726
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 2: I was like, well, thank you.

727
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,240
Speaker 3: I was like he really needed He was like, I'm.

728
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 10: Talking about you, and so, yeah, okay, way who else

729
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 10: on this call?

730
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 3: I don't know her friend because it's not like two

731
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 3: women in him. Yeah, man, this is crazy.

732
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 2: I ran into an issue financially. And so he was

733
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 2: just like absolutely and it was a big deal.

734
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 3: It was a really big thing. And so uh, from

735
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 3: that moment on, like he would just.

736
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:48,359
Speaker 1: It started from there.

737
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 2: It just it just snowballed into you know, I just

738
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:52,879
Speaker 2: love you so much.

739
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 3: I always loved you.

740
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 2: I always cared about you, I always thought about you,

741
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,879
Speaker 2: always did and always that And then he was going

742
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 2: through the stuff with his wife, telling me about how

743
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 2: much he did not like her, he was loved her,

744
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 2: that he was never attracted to her.

745
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 3: That she that's always the story. By the way, you

746
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 3: can't really believe no married man that the shipping on

747
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 3: his wife to talking about how he's fucking you. He

748
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 3: nine times, I ten, he ain't gonna leave him. How

749
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 3: does that not like send a red flag up to

750
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 3: you that this nigga isn't a whole lass marriage with

751
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 3: a person he claims he doesn't love, isn't attracted to,

752
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 3: never liked all this shit, But he committed Rod, he

753
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 3: shows that he can't commit. But somebody was telling like

754
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 3: he telling you the same shit he told her one day.

755
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 3: They don't care, right, Like at some point he was

756
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 3: telling her that she you think she was sitting around

757
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 3: like I know he doesn't like me, loved me, doesn't

758
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 3: da da da da, doesn't you know? But he will you.

759
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 3: I just need to have these kids and get married

760
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 3: to him and let him be in my house every night.

761
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 3: Like nah. At one point he was nice to her too,

762
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 3: m hm. And now he's pulling that shit on you.

763
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:01,720
Speaker 11: Wow, because she looked good on paper.

764
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 3: Well, he said that he was.

765
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 2: His exact words was, she ain't never sucked, She don't suck,

766
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 2: she don't fuck, she don't do she don't even clean

767
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 2: her she ain't never watched a pair of my draws.

768
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 2: He told me how much he paid in childcare for.

769
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 3: The kids that weren't even school age. But she could

770
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 3: have actually stayed home to you.

771
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 4: Know, actually take care of the kids.

772
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 2: But they got like two nannies. And he complained about that,

773
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 2: and he complained about.

774
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 3: I mean, it was just it, just and he told

775
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 3: me that he was Basically, he led me on to

776
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 3: believe that he was gonna.

777
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,399
Speaker 2: Leave her because he was telling me he was tired

778
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 2: of living.

779
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 1: Uh.

780
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 3: His exact words was, I'm tired of being behind his mask. Though, right,

781
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 3: you're leaving all that motherfucking money. Honey, that don't that

782
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 3: doesn't be.

783
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 1: Like the devil isn't lied hold my hand and and

784
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 1: and honey, let's preach the gospel to these other broken

785
00:42:58,960 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: hearted folks.

786
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he's not leaving all that money. That's how

787
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 3: he make his money, his image with his wife and

788
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 3: all that shit. Of course he's gonna go up there

789
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 3: and cry save it for when you go public. No,

790
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 3: he was feeling was alive. That's what he was like.

791
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 3: Let me get my story out first. All right, Well,

792
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 3: I'm gonna stop listening to this part and go back

793
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 3: to the article. But m she was feeling all of it. Uh.

794
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 3: In case you missed it, Gary Gray went on the

795
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:30,399
Speaker 3: rail and he told the women earlier this month, well,

796
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 3: I could play the clip. Let me see if I can.

797
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 3: Let me meet this ship. Did you have an affair,

798
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:39,479
Speaker 3: and if so, when did it start?

799
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 8: The answer is no, I didn't. But over a year ago,

800
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 8: right over a year ago, my wife and I went

801
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 8: a very difficult place.

802
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 3: And I don't know them that his wife next to

803
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 3: him to converse.

804
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:58,439
Speaker 8: With someone other than counselor other than the pastoral leader,

805
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 8: which is where I should have taken my issues and

806
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:05,320
Speaker 8: challenges and began to converse. And I was even in

807
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 8: the presence of that person one time. But being in

808
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 8: the presence of someone is not the same as sleeping

809
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 8: with them. I did not sleep with anyone. There's no baby,

810
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 8: there's none of that. And so it's important for me

811
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 8: to take responsibility for the areas where I did come

812
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 8: up short. Sharing things about my marriage outside of my

813
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 8: wife and outside of trusted counselors is an emotional affair.

814
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 3: It was wrong.

815
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 8: I take responsibility for that, but I will not take

816
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 8: responsibility for that which I did not do as a pastor.

817
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 8: It's important for people to know that when I get

818
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 8: up in that pulpit, I come not as a perfect man,

819
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 8: but as a broken man, which is why we talked

820
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 8: about these very things at the first sermon of our church.

821
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,839
Speaker 8: People act like this is something you know, brand new,

822
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,919
Speaker 8: But we've walked through this. We have peace, but people don't.

823
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,320
Speaker 8: So oh again, this is the genesis of this was

824
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 8: over a year ago, but we talked about this in

825
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 8: May at our church, and so we're moving for what

826
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 8: we're believing God that this will be an opportunity for

827
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 8: other people to heal. But I do want to accept

828
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:07,439
Speaker 8: that record press.

829
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:14,839
Speaker 3: Okay, so that was his account of it. So then

830
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 3: this was him, I guess last year or no January. Well,

831
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 3: he confessed to haven't cheated or his wife on a

832
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 3: different show man they had to do a cheating tour,

833
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 3: the whole cheating tour.

834
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 4: So I want to share this video with you of

835
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:46,320
Speaker 4: Pastor John Gray and Avingster Gray sharing with their congregation.

836
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 3: This is the very okay. That's that's when he actually

837
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:52,800
Speaker 3: said it. The Okay, I'll just read this because we

838
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 3: played this before.

839
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 1: So he.

840
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,439
Speaker 3: He said, uh, let's see, oh y'all. So I said,

841
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 3: there's no baby, none of that. It's important for me

842
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 3: to take as long as the areas I did come

843
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 3: up short share things about my marriage. I saw my

844
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 3: white blah blah. Okay. So then in January he had

845
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 3: said we had to keep smiling because even though we

846
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 3: were struggling, even though I was failing as a husband,

847
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 3: I was already in front of the people, and the

848
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 3: people can't really receive my brokenness because where the leaders

849
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 3: go when they bleed. So I had to bleed alone.

850
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 3: And that's what's strange is I traveled the whole world,

851
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 3: and the Holygos showed up and people got saved, and

852
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 3: me and my wife just kept smiling, and nobody knew

853
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 3: we were ready to get a divorce, because as long

854
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 3: as I kept producing, nobody cared what was happening at home.

855
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 3: I started listening to the wrong voices unless the people

856
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 3: get too close, she found out. She set it off

857
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:40,399
Speaker 3: just like a good wife should. Yeah, Adventure didn't grab

858
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 3: the microphone that said and then I prayed for them

859
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 3: and him, and then the devil loses. Because that's what's

860
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 3: not going to happen, is you tell me I'm going

861
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 3: to lose my purpose because someone whispered to someone whispered

862
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 3: to a sixteen year old John. The devil is a lie.

863
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 3: I'm standing with my husband and you can go on

864
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 3: the back to the pits of hell you came from.

865
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 3: Was I upset, yes? Was I heartbroken? Yes? But you

866
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 3: better learn how to get in there for the what's

867
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 3: the vals, better and worst, so the worst shows up,

868
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 3: you don't run away. She later shouted, I put scripture

869
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 3: on that strange woman. I put scripture on that strange woman.

870
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 3: She don't want it with me, She don't want it

871
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 3: with y'all. Amen. Song a threat. Gray, then receive your

872
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 3: criticism for buying his wife for Laborghini in December. But

873
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 3: I guess since he about the mistress of car it's

874
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 3: only fair play. No, it's all God's money anyway, So yeah,

875
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 3: you believe him. It was just a spiritual emotional affair

876
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 3: and there's no no sex involved, no babies, none of

877
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 3: that type of stuff.

878
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 5: Coming from her from the woman that don't.

879
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 3: Sound like so you don't believe them? Is this two sides?

880
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: Like you said, why ain't nobody asking her nothing any

881
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 1: about acting like she don't exist?

882
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 3: M that's a good point. Can I personally don't believe him, so,

883
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, he said what he said,

884
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 3: but I don't think that's the truth. I think he

885
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 3: was fucking and I'm more prone to believe that he

886
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 3: was lying and saying his wife ain't shitting trying to

887
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 3: fuck this woman or fucking this woman. And uh, you know,

888
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 3: at what point, like, what reason does she have to

889
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 3: lie at this point?

890
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:20,919
Speaker 4: Right?

891
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 3: Right? What is her benefit from that? You know, she's

892
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 3: not extorting him for anything? M M, she's not soon,

893
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 3: She's not going after a dime. Uh, let's see what

894
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 3: else happens. Oh, Joe Biden, they released like a statement

895
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:39,280
Speaker 3: saying that him and his advisors were debating Stacy Abrams

896
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:44,479
Speaker 3: as an out of the gate vice president choice. Close

897
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 3: advisors to Vice President Joe Biden are debating idea packaging

898
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 3: his presidential campaign announcement with the PLEASGA too Stacy Abrams

899
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 3: as his vice president? Has she put her hat in

900
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,280
Speaker 3: a ring yet and sayd she's gonna run? Not for president.

901
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 3: The popular Georgia Democrat who aged forty five is who

902
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:10,720
Speaker 3: at age forty five, is thirty one years younger than Biden,

903
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 3: would bring diversity excitement to the tickets, showing voters, in

904
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 3: the words of close source, that Bidy isn't just another

905
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 3: old white guy. But the decision poses considerable risk, and

906
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 3: some advisors are flatly opposed. Some have pointed out that

907
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 3: in a democratic debate, he could be asked why no

908
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 3: one on the stage would be a worthy running mate.

909
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 3: Advisors also know that the move would be perceived as

910
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:35,240
Speaker 3: a gimmick. Biden's position on the issue couldn't be learned.

911
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 3: We were just told about the advisors debate. Biden has

912
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 3: discussed selecting a running maye early and moved that one

913
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 3: senior Democrat said could hurt him by feeding an air

914
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:49,760
Speaker 3: of inevitability. Biden's office declined to comment. Abrams and Biden

915
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 3: did meet in Washington last week to discuss her next

916
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:56,959
Speaker 3: political steps. Biden requested the lunchtime meeting. So maybe they've

917
00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 3: already discussed this, and this is a thing that know

918
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 3: she's aware of and approves of. I don't know what

919
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 3: do you think about it?

920
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 1: Just but like this because nobody knows what the future

921
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 1: is gonna hold wait till you get there, because it's

922
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 1: like you're almost jumping the gun, almost like you automatically

923
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 1: know that you're gonna make it.

924
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 3: Out of one hundred people running right now, you don't know.

925
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:26,439
Speaker 3: You don't know who might.

926
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 1: Actually come out to what works and surpassed you and

927
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 1: actually might be a better candidate than you.

928
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 3: You don't know.

929
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 1: So when you do this, you cause a lot of riff,

930
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 1: a lot of rifts in the water because you have

931
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 1: a lot of black people that go just hoping that

932
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 1: she throws her hat and ring. They don't know, they

933
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 1: hope that she does, and so people are going, well,

934
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 1: why would you even say this, And you don't even

935
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 1: know she's gonna throw a hat in the ring. And

936
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 1: then if she does, let's say she decides to throw

937
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 1: her hat in the ring, a lot of people are going,

938
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a problem because a lot people say, well,

939
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 1: he said I were gonna pick for vice president anyway,

940
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:57,800
Speaker 1: Like what the fuck?

941
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 3: And my thing is that I might be wrong, but

942
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 3: I think that.

943
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 1: Uh, strategically, from his perspective, from body, it's actually a

944
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 1: smart move. I understand that because your basis black women,

945
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 1: like you know, so you go where I'm I'm I'm

946
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 1: going to get somebody that I know that the largest

947
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 1: percentage of voters voted, like a ninety.

948
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 3: Something percent clip.

949
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 1: I want to get something to cater towards these people.

950
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: That's understandable. But at the same time, I think there's

951
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: possibility that she could actually beat him, like like she

952
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 1: might actually fuck around to be a better candidate and

953
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 1: actually beat him, you know, if they was to run

954
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 1: head ahead. And I think he realizes that too, So

955
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 1: I think this is a kind of a plan to

956
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: kind of take her off the board ahead of time

957
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 1: or be like, no, not this time, you can run

958
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 1: next time.

959
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 3: You know. It's some strategical planning here.

960
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 5: Like I said, I don't really like it, but it's

961
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 5: just me personally.

962
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 3: Yeah. My thing is this, I don't think she's running

963
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 3: for president, Like I mean, she hasn't really put any

964
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 3: feelers out there. I think she may feel that it's

965
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 3: too early. She's actually still working in Georgia on that

966
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 3: router registration and vote the suppression stuff. I don't think

967
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:17,919
Speaker 3: she's going to run. I think that's what the meeting

968
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 3: was for, to say, are you going to run for president.

969
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 3: She must have said I'm really looking forward to him.

970
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 3: Like if she just starts saying complimentary things about him,

971
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 3: then we would all go, Okay, maybe they're working on something.

972
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 3: If she's at some campaign events with him, we go okay, Yeah,

973
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 3: if this guy's running, this is gonna be his VP.

974
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 3: There's a much more savvy way to run to practice

975
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,800
Speaker 3: out there than the we were mulling it over, and

976
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,799
Speaker 3: we might be kind of thinking about problem over.

977
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 5: They don't put it out publicly though.

978
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 3: Yeah. And if she were to run, As with all

979
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 3: these candidates, I'm a little hesitant for all of them

980
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 3: to run, but at the same time, I want all

981
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 3: of them to run. So if she were to run,

982
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:56,399
Speaker 3: I'd be cool with that. I would Look, I can't

983
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 3: wait to see who the fuck comes out the primary.

984
00:52:57,960 --> 00:52:59,479
Speaker 3: I'm going to support the shit out of that person,

985
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 3: and I really don't give a fuck what anybody says

986
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 3: about it. Once it's them versus Trump, I don't care

987
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 3: which of these candidates it is same. They are going

988
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 3: to get the support I would give any anyone versus Trump.

989
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 3: But I would love to see her try it out.

990
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 3: The thing I worry about is that so many people

991
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 3: in the field at this point, I don't even know

992
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 3: what's supposed to separate everybody from each other. And I

993
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 3: worry about, at least in the online sphere, how many

994
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 3: people are tacitly supportive of her as an idea, but once,

995
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 3: but once she becomes an individual who's running, they will

996
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 3: then yank that support back and start telling me all

997
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 3: the negative things about her. Because there's been several candidates

998
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 3: like that where people were not as vocal about their

999
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 3: shortcomings until they decided to run, and especially if they

1000
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 3: get like some traction. You know, Beato is one of

1001
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 3: those people that people were mostly positive about, and then

1002
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,919
Speaker 3: he said I'm running for president, and then people start saying,

1003
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 3: you can't say you're born you're born for this. Who

1004
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:09,720
Speaker 3: the fuck is if you are trying to run for president?

1005
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 3: You have some arrogance about you. I don't believe in

1006
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 3: this shit of I'm gonna be the president of the

1007
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 3: United States and change the free world blah blah blah.

1008
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 3: But I'm not arrogant about it. I'm not gonna like

1009
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 3: brag on myself like, no, you probably do feel called

1010
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 3: to it. They knew what he meant, but they tried

1011
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 3: to nitpick that shit. You know, obviously Kamala Harrison's prosecutorial record,

1012
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 3: Joe Biden and you know Anita Hall and the crime

1013
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:42,360
Speaker 3: Bill which he authored. You know, there's just obviously Bernie

1014
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 3: Sanders and his milk toast racial background and he marched

1015
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 3: with King. It did nothing for fifty years. But hey,

1016
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:52,359
Speaker 3: you guys should just remember that he got arrested once

1017
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 3: like that. Like all of these dudes and women have

1018
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 3: motherfucking holes in their shit. Elizabeth Warren in the Pocahonta

1019
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 3: shit that Trump put on her, in addition to actual

1020
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 3: proof that she did do some of that shit. I

1021
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 3: think Dylan Brand has like some some racist shit that

1022
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:12,879
Speaker 3: she said a long time ago. There's a woman out

1023
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 3: of the Midwest. I can't remember her fucking name, but

1024
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:17,799
Speaker 3: she's mean clover with her, she's mean to all her

1025
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 3: uh you know, employees and shit like that. Like all

1026
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 3: of these motherfuckers got something. The Corey Booker is just

1027
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 3: the most not like he's the squarest, most nonchalantest ass dude.

1028
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 3: Like could not see him possibly on the debate stage

1029
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 3: of Donald Trump winning, could not see it, Like just

1030
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 3: he's like Obama with less savvy and wit. So there's

1031
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:45,360
Speaker 3: all this stuff where I can see something wrong with

1032
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 3: each candidate, and yet everyone's always claiming for another person

1033
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 3: to enter the race, and then they do and then

1034
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 3: we get to find out what's wrong with them. So

1035
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:57,800
Speaker 3: we'll see what happens with that. I just think the

1036
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 3: role out of that information just not smart. Nope, let's

1037
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 3: see what else happened. A man got arrested for allegedly

1038
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,439
Speaker 3: throwing the glass of water on the racist ass Steve King.

1039
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 3: He's a representative out of Iowa white nationalist. Okay, yeah,

1040
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 3: you've heard of him before because he says a lot

1041
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 3: of racist shit. So anyway, he somebody threw some water

1042
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 3: on him, forty six year old Blake Gibbings, and he

1043
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 3: got arrested for it. There's not really supposed to be

1044
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 3: able to do that. It's kind of like egg boy

1045
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 3: thing where uh, he did it, and we'll see what

1046
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 3: happens to him. I mean it is technically assault. You

1047
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:42,839
Speaker 3: now put this man in a position where he gets

1048
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 3: to be the one that's patty about pressing charges and

1049
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 3: shit like that. So we'll see what happens.

1050
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 1: So, but.

1051
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 3: Definitely don't feel bad for Steve king, I'm not a

1052
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 3: tear not. You won't see him falling down my eyes

1053
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 3: because that does not by me. All right, let's see

1054
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 3: what else we got here. Experts say even successful couples

1055
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 3: have these seven incompatible traits. Oh shit, even the successful couples. Guys. Okay,

1056
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 3: there's a lot of stuff going on down here, and

1057
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 3: everybody has a different definition of success. But okay, mm

1058
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 3: hmmmm hmm. If you think you need to be exactly

1059
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 3: like your partner in order to have a successful relationship,

1060
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 3: think again. While it may require more understanding and ability

1061
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 3: to compromise being different, it's actually a good thing, and

1062
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 3: this includes bringing traits to the table that are technically incompatible.

1063
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:39,479
Speaker 3: When you approach life from different angles, you might find

1064
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 3: that you and your partner have had an easier time

1065
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 3: of solving problems since you're both offering your own unique perspectives.

1066
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 3: Let me just get to the right agree, get to

1067
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 3: the point Number one, relaxed versus uptight. One partner is

1068
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 3: laid back, go with the flow type of person. You

1069
00:57:57,560 --> 00:57:59,439
Speaker 3: may not expect them to have much success with someone

1070
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 3: who's more strict and structure, but this can in many

1071
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 3: ways make for a very healthy relationship. Yeah, I think

1072
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 3: so too, because sometimes you need a common influence to

1073
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 3: the up type person and sometimes it switches back and forth.

1074
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 3: But you know, I think a lot of people don't

1075
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 3: understand that you can exacerbate the situation and someone's anxieties

1076
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 3: and all this stuff by actually jumping in and almost

1077
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 3: like making it worse or trying to escalate it. So

1078
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 3: like if Karen's having a problem with customer service on

1079
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 3: the phone, and then I jump on the phone and

1080
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 3: I start yelling at customer service, and I start yelling

1081
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 3: with Karen and we're both yelling like that's not necessarily

1082
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 3: an ideal situation. A lot of times now all our

1083
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 3: blood pressure is up, all our anxiety is up.

1084
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because the other thing we kind of go

1085
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 1: back and forth because yeah, you're.

1086
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 3: Really laid back. And the thing about me, I'm made

1087
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 3: back too, I really, really really am.

1088
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 1: But it's like I have I got, I got a

1089
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 1: line in once that line is crossed, so once I

1090
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 1: feel like I'm not getting what I requested, or once

1091
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 1: I feel like because my thing I used to be

1092
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 1: too laid back, like way laid back? Will you be like,

1093
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 1: but Karen, you call ain't nothing happened.

1094
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 3: You is actually just being too nothing to the people.

1095
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 1: So I'm like, Okay, i gotta find a balance and

1096
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 1: I can actually go to the other stream.

1097
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. But my point is, like in a couple, you know,

1098
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 3: in the house you're trying to or not. I shouldn't

1099
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 3: say yeah, but I mean yeah. And my point is

1100
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 3: in a house with a couple with two people or

1101
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 3: whatever happening people, you have your relationship, you know, there

1102
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 3: has to be a balancing act to get back to

1103
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 3: to like the neutral yeah, because it can't always be

1104
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 3: like we are just on the same page and I

1105
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 3: amp you up when you're sad, I'm sad as you are,

1106
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 3: I'm outside in you, I'm out angry in you, or

1107
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 3: I'm just saying I'm trying to match your anger. Like

1108
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 3: that's not always the right response. And sometimes that balance

1109
00:59:57,640 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 3: is what helps is not you know, as long as

1110
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 3: it's not a or it's not a person like being

1111
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:05,440
Speaker 3: ignoring your like oh you mad, Like they're not mocking you,

1112
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 3: or being like what the fuck you mad about? Right,

1113
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 3: But it's that they can be supportive without joining you

1114
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 3: in that Sometimes you need that balance. I know there

1115
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 3: was a thing last year when I was ready to

1116
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 3: go like ape, like I was about to fucking burn

1117
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 3: it all down last year, you know, between Karen and

1118
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 3: some good friends of mine like talking me down, it

1119
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 3: was it was I'm glad they didn't just match my

1120
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 3: ship because I would have burned the ship down. I

1121
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 3: would have been up here talking about everybody. So you know,

1122
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 3: you need that sometimes. Number two organized versus MESSI man,

1123
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 3: this one's more of a struggle, I think, because organized

1124
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 3: people really, you know, have more of a struggle with

1125
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 3: you know, the idea of messy because to me, it

1126
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 3: also equals work. So I know people call it emotional

1127
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 3: labor in the first one, but you know, I'm not

1128
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 3: a I'm not a huge believer, and emotional labor is

1129
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 3: very a very nebuloss concept that changes from relationship to relationship.

1130
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 3: And a lot of people start talking about that when

1131
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 3: they don't like somebody or something, or when you know,

1132
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 3: like or when they just kind of want to talk

1133
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 3: about the things they do in relationship and not the

1134
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 3: things the other person does. I'm not a fan of that,

1135
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 3: but this is labor labor.

1136
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 1: Right And in my mind, I can deal with a

1137
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 1: little bit of dirt, Like I know, my personality if

1138
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 1: you're a neat fanatic, we're not going to get along.

1139
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 1: And because my mama was a neat fanatic and that

1140
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 1: shit irritated the fucking fuck out of me.

1141
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:38,440
Speaker 3: Why I'm like, I'm not getting paid for this? Why

1142
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 3: am I doing this? Nobody?

1143
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 1: I'm not getting a fall one k, no paycheck, No,

1144
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 1: you're not paying me. Well, this shit is optional when

1145
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 1: I fucking feel like it.

1146
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 3: Well, my thing is when people don't do that part

1147
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 3: around the house, though, somebody always ends up picking up

1148
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 3: the slack. So if you refuse to do dishes, guess

1149
01:01:57,960 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 3: what that means Now I have to do the dish

1150
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 3: or you know, it's the need of person or whatever,

1151
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 3: and it can cause a lot of conflict. My dad's

1152
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 3: very neat, and I know he used to just stay

1153
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 3: on our ass about cleaning up and shit. And I think,

1154
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 3: you know, somebody not being you know, being with a

1155
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 3: person who's very organized and you being messy, you don't

1156
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:20,440
Speaker 3: catch the same stress. The stress you get is them

1157
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 3: being like, why didn't you clean this up? Why do

1158
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 3: this right? But that's not the same level of stress

1159
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 3: as well. I guess I have to be the one

1160
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 3: to mop the floor because nobody else will do it

1161
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 3: and they just don't even see the need, you know.

1162
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:33,480
Speaker 1: Right, And to an extent, it has to be a

1163
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 1: balance there because the thing about people that are like

1164
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 1: clean fanatics like that, some of them will express it,

1165
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 1: but sometimes you have to communicate propertly. Like a lot

1166
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 1: of those people been like, why don't you do it?

1167
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:48,760
Speaker 1: All you're doing is making the other person mad.

1168
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 3: Well, they wait, they're about to explode to say it,

1169
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 3: but that's normally after they've already done all this labor

1170
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 3: of cleaning your shit up. So they come in with

1171
01:02:55,920 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 3: a you know, emotional explosion as opposed to a gentle nudge,

1172
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 3: and not to mention, many times the the neat person

1173
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 3: does gentlely nudge the person correct and it just doesn't matter,

1174
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 3: you know. I know. One of the things I used

1175
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 3: to do is passive aggressive. Is like Karen would leave

1176
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 3: a bunch of clothes on the ground on her side

1177
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:14,520
Speaker 3: of the bed, and so I would just go put

1178
01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:16,960
Speaker 3: the fucking hamster over there. Like I wouldn't say nothing

1179
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 3: or talk no shit, but it'd be like put your

1180
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 3: shit in the hands, like I got I bought these hampers,

1181
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 3: use them. I bought these clothes hampers. I have like

1182
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:27,960
Speaker 3: five of them sitting around the house and just everywhere

1183
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 3: they're They're literally everywhere them. Why would you just throw

1184
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 3: clothes on the side of the bed. And you know,

1185
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:37,000
Speaker 3: at one point, you know, Karen, it got so bad.

1186
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:39,800
Speaker 3: I actually bought her a little cubby hole for her

1187
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 3: clothes on her side of the bed in addition to

1188
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 3: the drawers and stuff we have over there, like so

1189
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 3: just to be like, here's extra space for your clothes,

1190
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 3: so you don't just throw them on the ground. And

1191
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 3: you know you've gotten somewhat, Yeah, you've gotten better, but

1192
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 3: you know, the point being like, rather than wait till

1193
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 3: I'm about to like explode and be like, why the

1194
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:02,960
Speaker 3: funk won't you pick up your clothes? You know, as

1195
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 3: if as if I'm as if you're a child or something,

1196
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 3: because we're both adults, correct, So instead I like put

1197
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 3: that ship over there, because it's just a little nudge,

1198
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 3: a little reminder, like yo, put your stuff up, you know,

1199
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:17,919
Speaker 3: And then Karen always walks in the walks back into

1200
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 3: the other room, like why you put the clothes hamster

1201
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 3: by the bed, and I'm like, you know what it means,

1202
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 3: like come on now, like being no reason of both,

1203
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:27,440
Speaker 3: Like I don't want to fight about it, but it's

1204
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 3: clear it's obvious that I'm you want me to wash

1205
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 3: it and drive these clothes for you anyway, like do

1206
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:35,440
Speaker 3: your pardon put them in the in the basket, you

1207
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:37,160
Speaker 3: know it's easy, or fold them and put them in

1208
01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 3: a drawer, hang them up like I do so and

1209
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:43,040
Speaker 3: I'm not a neat freak. So but the point being

1210
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 3: like that being said, it's also bigger than just cleaning up, right,

1211
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 3: because that energy matters, the organized energy, which brings rigid

1212
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 3: like structure to the relationship, you know, to other tasks

1213
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 3: like I balance my checkbook, digital register every day. You know,

1214
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 3: I pay all the bills, that type of stuff, right,

1215
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:10,720
Speaker 3: I'm always on top of that stuff. Well, that Karen

1216
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:13,960
Speaker 3: also brings to the energy of the creativity sometimes to

1217
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 3: life where where Karen's like, we should do a live show.

1218
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 3: We should, uh, we should try this with the podcast.

1219
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 3: We should so so there's energy also that you don't

1220
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 3: want to stifle, like y'all don't want to be like

1221
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:30,480
Speaker 3: YO messy ass blah blah blah. And now you're feeling

1222
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 3: like you're trapped in a in a in a box.

1223
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:34,760
Speaker 3: You know, so I want you to still have that

1224
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 3: energy to be like, uh, you know, what about this choice?

1225
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 3: What about doing this thing?

1226
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:42,440
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, and and and and and the thing is,

1227
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:46,200
Speaker 1: like you said, it is it is uh a balance

1228
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:48,320
Speaker 1: because like I said, it's one of those things where

1229
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:50,040
Speaker 1: I go, Okay, yeah, I do need to hang this,

1230
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:53,080
Speaker 1: I do need to fold this. And my thing is

1231
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:56,560
Speaker 1: it's one of those things where uh, like you said,

1232
01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:58,960
Speaker 1: I pick up on clues like I go, oh, okay, okay,

1233
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 1: I go ahead and do it. But like I say,

1234
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:03,160
Speaker 1: I won't let it escalate to the point to where

1235
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 1: the other person is exploding, because that's what that not

1236
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 1: balance comes in, and that's where the arguments comes in.

1237
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:13,200
Speaker 3: Well also, like that's just certain people like my dad

1238
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 3: is more of an exploder, Like he just does, he does,

1239
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 3: he does, he does, he does, he does, he does,

1240
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:21,880
Speaker 3: he does whatever the thing is that is annoying to him.

1241
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 3: And then one day he's just like, I have to

1242
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:26,920
Speaker 3: hand the dishes seventy five times in a row and

1243
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:29,000
Speaker 3: nobody's done shit about it? What the fuck is wrong

1244
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:30,880
Speaker 3: with y'all? Blah blah blah. I don't want to be

1245
01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 3: like that, so I try to be like the first

1246
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:36,880
Speaker 3: time the second time, like, so you're really gonna just

1247
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:39,560
Speaker 3: lead these clothes over it? And that's my thing.

1248
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:43,920
Speaker 1: I'd rather you talk and communicate and things like that,

1249
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:49,160
Speaker 1: because the thing is the potions that is exploding. You're

1250
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:51,800
Speaker 1: talking to another human being that is not gonna respond

1251
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:55,960
Speaker 1: with you exploding. So they're gonna match your level when

1252
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:59,280
Speaker 1: you start yelling at them, and particularly if you haven't

1253
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 1: just flat I'm not and told them, sometimes they're gonna

1254
01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 1: be like, what the fuck I did not know? You

1255
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 1: didn't tell nobody, You didn't.

1256
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 3: Mention anything, you didn't say anything. You know, sometimes they.

1257
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:10,480
Speaker 1: Do, but it's just for the fact that they might go, well,

1258
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:13,280
Speaker 1: I didn't know it was as important as you stated,

1259
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:14,200
Speaker 1: Like you didn't tell me.

1260
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 3: The importance of this communication is key correct spontaneous versus schedule.

1261
01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 3: Believe it or not, When a spontaneous person coexists with

1262
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 3: a more structured person, it can make for quite a

1263
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 3: healthy match. For example, if one is a planner, the

1264
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 3: other spontaneous. The planner takes care of all the last

1265
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 3: minute details, while the other takes the lead when it

1266
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:35,439
Speaker 3: comes to creating a looser schedule overall and having fun. Yeah,

1267
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 3: I could see that type A versus Type B personalities.

1268
01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:44,320
Speaker 3: Type A is ambitious, hard work and competitive. Type B

1269
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:49,280
Speaker 3: is more relaxed and flexible. While it's always possible for

1270
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:51,560
Speaker 3: two type a's to be together, two type bes opposites

1271
01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 3: can also attract. I go between A and B.

1272
01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 1: It just depends on what the situation is for me.

1273
01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 1: And just like the one before, I kind of go

1274
01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:03,880
Speaker 1: back and forth.

1275
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 3: Between those things. I can kind of morph.

1276
01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 1: Because to me, it depends on the situation because a

1277
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:12,200
Speaker 1: lot of times in certain situations, you're the planner in

1278
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 1: certain situations, on the planner.

1279
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 3: In cerch situations, we're both like fuck it, whatever happens happens. Yeah, yeah, definitely.

1280
01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:21,360
Speaker 3: I mean these are very flexible definitions. We don't have

1281
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:25,320
Speaker 3: to ascribe strictly to any of them. I guess, and

1282
01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 3: I guess if you're more of the extreme, you know,

1283
01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:29,400
Speaker 3: you're the ones that have to deal with that stuff. Correct.

1284
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 3: Internal versus external processors. Oh yeah, this is a big one.

1285
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:36,800
Speaker 3: Some people internally process things and they kind of come

1286
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:38,880
Speaker 3: to you when they have a conclusion, and then some

1287
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:41,960
Speaker 3: people like to talk it through until they get to

1288
01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:45,479
Speaker 3: a conclusion. Once again, neither is strict You can be

1289
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:48,880
Speaker 3: both and all that stuff, but I definitely think this

1290
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:52,720
Speaker 3: is a big one for me because people that internally

1291
01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:56,840
Speaker 3: process things and then don't clue you into how they're

1292
01:08:56,840 --> 01:08:59,640
Speaker 3: working things out or through sometimes that can bother me.

1293
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:03,080
Speaker 3: I'm like, I want to know, like, what are you thinking?

1294
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:05,800
Speaker 3: How are you getting there? How are we going to

1295
01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:07,759
Speaker 3: arrive there? I want to be part of the process.

1296
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:11,839
Speaker 3: But at the same time, I'm I'm I'm an internal

1297
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:14,120
Speaker 3: processor in a lot of ways, but I just think

1298
01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:17,639
Speaker 3: i'll express myself better and I expressed myself. I don't

1299
01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:22,200
Speaker 3: mind expressing myself through the thinking like I don't like to.

1300
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:24,439
Speaker 3: I don't like I won't do the thing. What I'm

1301
01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:27,080
Speaker 3: saying is I don't like when people shut down conversation

1302
01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 3: and communication and then come back later. I know some

1303
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:32,320
Speaker 3: people that's the thing, Like I need time to process this.

1304
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:35,200
Speaker 3: I'll talk to you after I've thought about this. I'm

1305
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:37,639
Speaker 3: more of a like, I want to work it out

1306
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 3: with you and talk it through right now, and if

1307
01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:41,559
Speaker 3: you need time, we'll get to that too.

1308
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:42,280
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1309
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:45,719
Speaker 3: And I think it's the call cam hold on the ghetto.

1310
01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:51,560
Speaker 3: All right, So that was the phone call. Uh, let's so,

1311
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:53,840
Speaker 3: what were you saying, Karen'm sorry, we're talking about internal

1312
01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:55,120
Speaker 3: versus external processes.

1313
01:09:55,560 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 1: Yes, when it comes to that, I'm gonna see because

1314
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:04,800
Speaker 1: the way I was raised my mama, she's kind of

1315
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:07,639
Speaker 1: an internal type of person to the extent where it's

1316
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:12,120
Speaker 1: not even helpful sometimes in my opinion, because like there's

1317
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:13,000
Speaker 1: no communication.

1318
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:15,360
Speaker 3: She just come like this is it and you're like, okay,

1319
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:16,960
Speaker 3: how did you get there? You know what's going on.

1320
01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:18,600
Speaker 1: It's like nope, I said what I said at the end,

1321
01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 1: and you're like okay. Sometimes that could be very frustrating

1322
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:24,639
Speaker 1: to somebody that likes an explanation. But as a child,

1323
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:26,360
Speaker 1: I kind of picked up on that, and I think

1324
01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:32,799
Speaker 1: that you kind of challenged me to process things differently.

1325
01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:36,320
Speaker 1: And I think that I have a personality where I

1326
01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:39,360
Speaker 1: talk it out like that's what I do, and sometimes

1327
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 1: for people to internalize things, particularly this is a sex thing.

1328
01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:45,439
Speaker 1: When a woman is talking to a man a lot

1329
01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:48,720
Speaker 1: of times and a woman is actually a has the

1330
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:50,519
Speaker 1: type of personalit where she just like to talk it

1331
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 1: through because men are kind of it's kind of coaching

1332
01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:56,200
Speaker 1: them as an early age to problem solve, problem solve,

1333
01:10:56,280 --> 01:11:00,320
Speaker 1: problem solved, and so they hear you talk and they

1334
01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:03,240
Speaker 1: want to give you an answer, and sometimes you don't

1335
01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:06,080
Speaker 1: want an answer. You just want to be able to

1336
01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:09,120
Speaker 1: verbally talk it out loud, because for me, when I

1337
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:11,719
Speaker 1: talk out lout, I process. I'm going through the motions,

1338
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:15,680
Speaker 1: my mind is ticking, everything's kind of floating around. I'm

1339
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:18,960
Speaker 1: able to absorb things, and if you want to add

1340
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:21,639
Speaker 1: to the conversation, I can bounce off of what you're saying.

1341
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:23,800
Speaker 1: But I'm kind of walking my way through it, and

1342
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:25,639
Speaker 1: a lot of times there's been times where I've gotten

1343
01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:27,880
Speaker 1: to the end I go, Okay, that's what I'm gonna do,

1344
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:32,200
Speaker 1: you know, versus kind of keeping it inside and racking

1345
01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:34,320
Speaker 1: around in my brain, which I can do that too,

1346
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:35,600
Speaker 1: but I just like to.

1347
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:39,519
Speaker 3: Verbally talk it out. Yeah. I think, yeah, that's a

1348
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:41,160
Speaker 3: huge thing. It's a huge learning car for a lot

1349
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:43,439
Speaker 3: of people. And women aren't the only ones like that.

1350
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:45,960
Speaker 3: I mean, there's a lot of men that do that too.

1351
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:53,120
Speaker 3: But I think also processing is difficult because sometimes you

1352
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:56,759
Speaker 3: feel like, sometimes it does feel like, oh, this person's

1353
01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:59,439
Speaker 3: asking me for a solution or to help or for advice,

1354
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:03,080
Speaker 3: and it's hard to discern. And it's also hard sometimes

1355
01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:07,360
Speaker 3: for the person to discern what they want, because it's

1356
01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:09,800
Speaker 3: almost like if you could preface this thing with I

1357
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:11,960
Speaker 3: want to talk about this situation, but I'm not looking

1358
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:15,599
Speaker 3: for advice and I'm not looking for a solution, then

1359
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:19,840
Speaker 3: you may you may get a better response from people. Now,

1360
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:22,160
Speaker 3: I think what the other part is sometimes people are

1361
01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:23,680
Speaker 3: bothered by the fact that someone's like, well, then I

1362
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:25,920
Speaker 3: don't want to participate in this conversation, right, you know,

1363
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:28,160
Speaker 3: this might be the seventeen time you've talked about your mama,

1364
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:30,320
Speaker 3: and I don't want to talk about you know, you

1365
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:33,920
Speaker 3: and your mama's problems seventeen times in a row, knowing

1366
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:35,720
Speaker 3: that you're not going to change anything. You don't want

1367
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:39,160
Speaker 3: to hear any solutions, you don't want to do anything different,

1368
01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:42,120
Speaker 3: So it's almost like a one sided conversation. You need

1369
01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 3: a therapist's not a friend, you know. Now, yes, don't abuse, right, right,

1370
01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:48,960
Speaker 3: So I could see that too, But I think in general,

1371
01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:51,560
Speaker 3: you know, you have to be there for people to

1372
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:55,240
Speaker 3: help them process it, and in a romantic relationship that

1373
01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 3: you're going to kind of get in that role sometimes

1374
01:12:57,080 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 3: where they're just talking and yeah, I'm not a fan

1375
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:03,400
Speaker 3: of the I processed this, meaning I've thought about this

1376
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 3: and now I no longer will accept any input or

1377
01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:10,759
Speaker 3: any different discussion on it. Literally, that's the absolute opposite

1378
01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:14,000
Speaker 3: of how I am, and like the worst type of

1379
01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:16,000
Speaker 3: person for me to be around. I really do not

1380
01:13:16,240 --> 01:13:18,120
Speaker 3: like people that are like I've come to a conclusion

1381
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 3: and anything you say or do does not matter to me.

1382
01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:22,920
Speaker 3: What then fuck you, because I don't want to be

1383
01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:25,920
Speaker 3: If we don't matter to each other that much, then

1384
01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:27,240
Speaker 3: I just don't be around me.

1385
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:30,240
Speaker 1: Right, And you're not willing to at least hear my

1386
01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 1: input and hear what I got to say, because I

1387
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:36,120
Speaker 1: may have a completely different perspective or might challenge you

1388
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:39,280
Speaker 1: to think about things in a way that you didn't

1389
01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:41,640
Speaker 1: even consider, because a lot of times people fail to

1390
01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:45,759
Speaker 1: realize your lack of experience or your lack of dealing

1391
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:50,360
Speaker 1: with certain situations may and also sometimes your privilege may.

1392
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:53,680
Speaker 1: You may come to a conclusion based off of that,

1393
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:55,280
Speaker 1: and then you have somebody else to go, Hey, have

1394
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:57,720
Speaker 1: you ever thought about this way? But what about this way?

1395
01:13:57,840 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 1: Have you ever considered this way? What about the feelings

1396
01:13:59,920 --> 01:14:02,160
Speaker 1: of this and that and the other? And you go, oh, okay, okay,

1397
01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 1: I understand where you're coming from. I'm still gonna make

1398
01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:06,800
Speaker 1: this decision. But at least now I have a different

1399
01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:09,720
Speaker 1: perspective versus you just shutting the conversation down, because, like

1400
01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:11,760
Speaker 1: I say, most of the time you do internalize, but

1401
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:13,280
Speaker 1: every now and there it might be something where you

1402
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:15,880
Speaker 1: might actually talk to me about it. And because I'm

1403
01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:18,800
Speaker 1: that that that that's my personality.

1404
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:21,160
Speaker 3: I'm more able to work with you through it. Yeah.

1405
01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:24,559
Speaker 3: While and then I so I'm a kind of person

1406
01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:26,240
Speaker 3: that you know, I might feel like I come to

1407
01:14:26,240 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 3: a conclusion, but I always leave it open because you

1408
01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:32,360
Speaker 3: never know. You might change, your mind, might situation might change.

1409
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:34,560
Speaker 3: Get angry at one point, you're not as angry.

1410
01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:37,680
Speaker 1: Later, right, right, Because a lot of times when you're

1411
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:40,960
Speaker 1: talking how to just raw emotions, particularly when you're angry,

1412
01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:43,880
Speaker 1: everything you come, everything you say, is coming from that

1413
01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:46,519
Speaker 1: point of anger. And like you say, once you calm down,

1414
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:50,280
Speaker 1: once you process it, once you work through that anger,

1415
01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:53,800
Speaker 1: you can get to the other emotions, which is sometimes

1416
01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:57,320
Speaker 1: empathy and sympathy and compassion and understanding. But when you're angry,

1417
01:14:57,400 --> 01:14:59,559
Speaker 1: none of those emotions matter to a life Like people.

1418
01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:00,920
Speaker 3: You don't want to think that wears me out, as

1419
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:04,120
Speaker 3: people that say, like and I kind of figured out why.

1420
01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:07,280
Speaker 3: But people that are like I'm petty, I'm team Patty,

1421
01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:10,719
Speaker 3: or I never forgive. I think one of the reasons

1422
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:14,000
Speaker 3: that bothers me is because it's so empathetical to my

1423
01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:20,640
Speaker 3: being to be the same level of upset forever. And

1424
01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:22,760
Speaker 3: but but when those people say that, what they kind

1425
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:25,160
Speaker 3: of mean is like, I am going to be this

1426
01:15:25,439 --> 01:15:29,559
Speaker 3: level of angry or upset or whatever about this thing

1427
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:33,240
Speaker 3: for the rest of my life. And I'm like, and one,

1428
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:35,800
Speaker 3: you know, maybe they will be. But for the most part,

1429
01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:37,719
Speaker 3: I don't think people really can keep up that emotional

1430
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:41,200
Speaker 3: intensity forever for the most part. I mean that's something

1431
01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:41,400
Speaker 3: to do.

1432
01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:41,800
Speaker 2: You know.

1433
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:44,520
Speaker 3: Obviously we met some who were like, oh, that motherfucker's

1434
01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:47,000
Speaker 3: fucked up. But then the other thing is, if you're

1435
01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:49,960
Speaker 3: gonna be mad forever at this level, it makes me

1436
01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:54,400
Speaker 3: feel more like you're just mad all the time, correct,

1437
01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:57,120
Speaker 3: And this just happens to be another thing you can

1438
01:15:57,160 --> 01:15:59,439
Speaker 3: pour that anger into. But you're you're just mad all

1439
01:15:59,479 --> 01:16:02,639
Speaker 3: the time, like something else is the problem, but you've

1440
01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:05,080
Speaker 3: turned it into it's really about blank. But no, it's not.

1441
01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:10,760
Speaker 3: Older and younger, I think that's pretty easy one. I mean,

1442
01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:15,080
Speaker 3: there's age differences all the time. People can make it work,

1443
01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:18,800
Speaker 3: you know, through all kinds of different reasons. So you know,

1444
01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:20,840
Speaker 3: I could see why that wouldn't be a deal breaker

1445
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:24,360
Speaker 3: and why that might actually make some stuff better depending

1446
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:27,479
Speaker 3: on the you know what you're into, right.

1447
01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:30,040
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, that has its plus as then as minuses.

1448
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:34,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, like all of these and spenders versus savers, and

1449
01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:36,360
Speaker 3: that one makes sense too, although I think you kind

1450
01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:40,960
Speaker 3: of uh, you're definitely going to have see. One of

1451
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:43,479
Speaker 3: the things about spending versus saving is that there's very

1452
01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:46,920
Speaker 3: few people that in America, well you're gonna have the

1453
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:51,120
Speaker 3: luxury to really save. Come on, So we're talking about

1454
01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:55,200
Speaker 3: for a lot of people, there's spenders by necessity, not

1455
01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:58,799
Speaker 3: because of like I just choose to be a spender.

1456
01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:01,920
Speaker 3: It's like, look at the rent and the bills come through.

1457
01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:04,519
Speaker 3: Ain't nothing to save, Ain't nothing to say. But I

1458
01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:06,679
Speaker 3: can treat myself like a human being and maybe catch

1459
01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:09,519
Speaker 3: a movie every once in a while, every now and then,

1460
01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:11,960
Speaker 3: right or I can put that, you know, sixty dollars

1461
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:14,120
Speaker 3: a month in some type of savings account and then

1462
01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:17,160
Speaker 3: the second that my tires go flat, it's gone anyway,

1463
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:19,960
Speaker 3: you know, So I definitely could understand. I think that's

1464
01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:22,760
Speaker 3: more of a luxury thing now maybe it didn't used

1465
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:26,799
Speaker 3: to be. The wage stagnation and debt and all the stuff.

1466
01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:29,600
Speaker 3: I think you're running into a lot less like we

1467
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:32,080
Speaker 3: had the opportunity to save, and I chose to say

1468
01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:32,479
Speaker 3: fuck you.

1469
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:35,719
Speaker 1: You know, right, because when you talk about savings, people's

1470
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 1: savings are deplinists.

1471
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:38,920
Speaker 3: It's no longer there. It's just not there.

1472
01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:41,439
Speaker 1: You know, the safety net that they tell people to do.

1473
01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:43,360
Speaker 1: People are like, well, how can I do? And when

1474
01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:45,240
Speaker 1: every fucking thing has gone up with my pay?

1475
01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:49,200
Speaker 3: Yep? All right, let's get to some other stuff. Let

1476
01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:53,320
Speaker 3: me get to my guess, the race playlist, and we

1477
01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:58,920
Speaker 3: can do some fucking with black people. Everybody loves that

1478
01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:11,600
Speaker 3: we're talking with those black people with just fucking with

1479
01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:16,080
Speaker 3: those blacks. We're just fucking with fucking with black people.

1480
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:18,240
Speaker 3: That's right, guys, It's time to play the game we

1481
01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:20,960
Speaker 3: all hate to play as fucking with black people. The game.

1482
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:22,719
Speaker 3: We go all around the globe, we find different articles

1483
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:24,519
Speaker 3: will make us feel fucked with. The will sign points

1484
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:27,120
Speaker 3: scores from zero to one hundred and intervals of twenty

1485
01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:31,400
Speaker 3: five today's contestants. Everybody, all right, let's see who's back

1486
01:18:31,439 --> 01:18:37,000
Speaker 3: in the saddle Plantation, slaves were happy in musical According

1487
01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:44,920
Speaker 3: to Louisiana's Most Visited historical site, OH Louisiana. A sign

1488
01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:48,280
Speaker 3: claiming slaves who once lived at Louisiana's most visited site

1489
01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:52,960
Speaker 3: were happy it has finally been removed cool twenty nineteen

1490
01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:57,599
Speaker 3: and our official exhibit State on Rose Down Plantation claimed

1491
01:18:57,600 --> 01:19:00,960
Speaker 3: the slaves live happily there and show the natural musical instinct,

1492
01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:04,799
Speaker 3: but historians agreed that painted the inaccurate picture of their lives.

1493
01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:10,360
Speaker 3: You don't say I do say my dear mm hmm,

1494
01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:15,400
Speaker 3: those happy musical slaves. Meanwhile, all the songs was codes

1495
01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:18,640
Speaker 3: to get to the north. Come on, uh make a

1496
01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:21,800
Speaker 3: left by tree, go down the river, Go down the river,

1497
01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 3: go come on. Like all the songs is how the

1498
01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:26,600
Speaker 3: fuck do we get out of here? And they're like

1499
01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:27,919
Speaker 3: they are so musical.

1500
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:30,920
Speaker 1: You give an instruction on how to build a boat,

1501
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:33,200
Speaker 1: get you some tubifos and nail.

1502
01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:37,560
Speaker 3: That mum right, they go whoo. Then mass go to

1503
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:41,000
Speaker 3: sleep about ten every night, ten every night, ten every night.

1504
01:19:41,240 --> 01:19:48,080
Speaker 3: Come on. Brandon Breers, the Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Parks,

1505
01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:50,360
Speaker 3: called the sign and mistake and was not sure how

1506
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:53,000
Speaker 3: long it had been hung in the detached kitchen exhibit.

1507
01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:56,200
Speaker 3: That was not a mistake, official said, state, right, that's

1508
01:19:56,280 --> 01:20:01,559
Speaker 3: not a mistake. Let me tell you something. In addition

1509
01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:03,799
Speaker 3: to the black kids who had to come see this exhibit,

1510
01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:06,360
Speaker 3: they're really thinking about the white kids that had to

1511
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:08,479
Speaker 3: come see the exhibit. And what they want to tell

1512
01:20:08,479 --> 01:20:10,360
Speaker 3: you is that your slave on the ancestors were not

1513
01:20:10,439 --> 01:20:13,519
Speaker 3: bad people, and that slaves like being slaves. It is

1514
01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:17,200
Speaker 3: a huge piece of Southern history and propaganda to say

1515
01:20:17,240 --> 01:20:21,280
Speaker 3: that slaves likes being slaves, that that slavery was actually

1516
01:20:21,320 --> 01:20:26,080
Speaker 3: altruistic and due to our savage African, dark skinned, beastial nature,

1517
01:20:26,840 --> 01:20:31,479
Speaker 3: they gave us organization and taught our skills and like

1518
01:20:31,560 --> 01:20:38,280
Speaker 3: it's apparently the world's first internship. And the savage brutality

1519
01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:40,880
Speaker 3: of it all, the sexual assault of it all, the

1520
01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:44,960
Speaker 3: abuse of it all, the lack of freedom of it all,

1521
01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:47,960
Speaker 3: well those are all done to benefit us, guys.

1522
01:20:48,840 --> 01:20:51,800
Speaker 1: So to make us better human beings, we had to

1523
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:53,439
Speaker 1: beat the savage out of you and teach you this

1524
01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:55,040
Speaker 1: good old Christianity.

1525
01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:58,240
Speaker 3: The official said. The Stay historians and park administrators did

1526
01:20:58,280 --> 01:21:00,800
Speaker 3: not agree with the science wording, which was based on

1527
01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:03,080
Speaker 3: a book written by Sarah Bowman, one of the last

1528
01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:05,200
Speaker 3: members of the family that built the plantation used a

1529
01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:08,519
Speaker 3: slave labor in eighteen thirty four. Well, yeah, let's let

1530
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:12,519
Speaker 3: her tell the story. Did any slaves participate in the story?

1531
01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:16,240
Speaker 3: Oh nope, okay, cool. They always come up with alwa,

1532
01:21:16,240 --> 01:21:18,799
Speaker 3: it's a mistake, but no one's responsible, said Southern University

1533
01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:21,719
Speaker 3: professor Albert Samuels. I wish I could say I was shocked,

1534
01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:24,519
Speaker 3: but there's still a basic unwillingness to come to terms

1535
01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:29,600
Speaker 3: with the fact that slavery was an awful institution. It

1536
01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:30,760
Speaker 3: depends on who you asked.

1537
01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:33,720
Speaker 1: Didn't you read an article or maybe a pharron ad

1538
01:21:33,800 --> 01:21:37,480
Speaker 1: said that they they was covering like one of the plantations,

1539
01:21:37,479 --> 01:21:39,720
Speaker 1: and white people like ask them the most fucking ridiculous groo.

1540
01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:42,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I read an article statuary tour guide at a

1541
01:21:43,160 --> 01:21:47,720
Speaker 3: slavery at a plantation and black historical thing. And white

1542
01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:51,400
Speaker 3: people were always asking stuff like were house happy work?

1543
01:21:51,479 --> 01:21:52,719
Speaker 3: Like were they happy slaves?

1544
01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:55,880
Speaker 5: And they would be like no, and they will be

1545
01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:56,960
Speaker 5: getting mad at them.

1546
01:21:56,880 --> 01:21:59,120
Speaker 3: And shit for like, what the fuck you think this

1547
01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:01,880
Speaker 3: was brainwashed? When I say white people are victims of

1548
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:04,880
Speaker 3: white supremacy. That's where it comes down to. Imagine being

1549
01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:08,599
Speaker 3: that brainwash. You didn't even recognize something so simple it's

1550
01:22:08,680 --> 01:22:15,120
Speaker 3: called slay slave. That's the part I don't get slave. Yeah,

1551
01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:18,160
Speaker 3: well you would. I mean, I guarantee if we examine

1552
01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:20,400
Speaker 3: both of our lives, there's something we take for granted

1553
01:22:20,439 --> 01:22:23,160
Speaker 3: that we don't understand because we have privilege. There's a

1554
01:22:23,240 --> 01:22:25,240
Speaker 3: certain shit that we were like, that's what that means,

1555
01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:28,880
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? So like they have that

1556
01:22:29,320 --> 01:22:32,080
Speaker 3: because there's an entire institution that has willfully taught them that.

1557
01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:37,680
Speaker 3: You know, there's put it. I'll put it simply to me. Now,

1558
01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:42,439
Speaker 3: it's monstrous and ridiculous. But and obviously it may not

1559
01:22:42,600 --> 01:22:47,840
Speaker 3: be as complicit as like like like hate crimes and

1560
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:52,000
Speaker 3: shit like that. But like in rap in a culture

1561
01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:54,400
Speaker 3: for black men, there was a no home old phase

1562
01:22:55,080 --> 01:22:57,439
Speaker 3: where you basically are trying to say I'm not gay

1563
01:22:58,200 --> 01:23:00,800
Speaker 3: and it's funny that people would think that this is

1564
01:23:00,880 --> 01:23:04,040
Speaker 3: gay or isn't gay? Being funny. Now, that might not

1565
01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:06,839
Speaker 3: be the same as like me saying like it's happy slaves,

1566
01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:10,280
Speaker 3: but I thought that me saying no homo and my

1567
01:23:10,479 --> 01:23:12,720
Speaker 3: friend saying no homo and every rapper I listened to

1568
01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:14,519
Speaker 3: saying no homo and every message board I was on

1569
01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:17,120
Speaker 3: saying that homo and all that shit. I there was

1570
01:23:17,160 --> 01:23:18,600
Speaker 3: a time in my life where I was just like,

1571
01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:23,360
Speaker 3: that doesn't mean they homophobic, m okay. So I'm just

1572
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:28,160
Speaker 3: I'm conditioned to believe that shit because I because that

1573
01:23:28,439 --> 01:23:32,120
Speaker 3: is the experience I'm having. Meanwhile, I'm literally shaming. I'm

1574
01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:37,360
Speaker 3: really literally rewriting what masculinity has to be. I'm literally, uh,

1575
01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:42,360
Speaker 3: you know, essentially calling people that are gay weak and

1576
01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:46,240
Speaker 3: less than and say, and you know, in a in

1577
01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:52,519
Speaker 3: a ridiculous affirmation of my own heterosexuality, right, that that's

1578
01:23:52,560 --> 01:23:56,560
Speaker 3: a thing that you know, even as a joke, the

1579
01:23:56,720 --> 01:24:00,400
Speaker 3: joke is being gay is funny, right, So so I'm

1580
01:24:00,439 --> 01:24:04,960
Speaker 3: participating in that. And I and you know, I'm a

1581
01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:10,880
Speaker 3: smart person, relatively, relatively empathetic all that shit. But I

1582
01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:14,960
Speaker 3: did not even it never even really crossed my mind

1583
01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:18,240
Speaker 3: until later in that you know, that that era where

1584
01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:21,479
Speaker 3: I was like, wait, what's even really funny about this?

1585
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:24,439
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, like, like, what's the target

1586
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:27,240
Speaker 3: for this? Well, white people have been indoctrinated in the

1587
01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:31,439
Speaker 3: white supremacy so early and so hard. Their ancestors are

1588
01:24:31,479 --> 01:24:35,280
Speaker 3: the white supremacists. Their ancestors are the slave owners. That

1589
01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:38,760
Speaker 3: the same way that those guys smiled when they thought

1590
01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:41,400
Speaker 3: about when I'm a kid and Michael Jackson took interest

1591
01:24:41,439 --> 01:24:44,080
Speaker 3: in me even though he was my abuser. There you

1592
01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:46,400
Speaker 3: can see on their face as a latent memory of light.

1593
01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:49,080
Speaker 3: But it was a happy time except for the abuse.

1594
01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:53,920
Speaker 3: These white people love their family, families, their grandpa, their

1595
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:59,479
Speaker 3: grandpas who they inherited the plantation where the slaves were at,

1596
01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:02,120
Speaker 3: and that grandpa who told them, well, my slaves are happy.

1597
01:25:02,160 --> 01:25:05,200
Speaker 3: I treated my slaves good. And they didn't say, well,

1598
01:25:05,280 --> 01:25:06,840
Speaker 3: let me go walk down there to the slave quarters

1599
01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:09,760
Speaker 3: and ask them what's going on. No, grandpa gets to

1600
01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:11,360
Speaker 3: tell the narrative, and any hands it to me, and

1601
01:25:11,479 --> 01:25:13,280
Speaker 3: it has to be the truth, because if it's less

1602
01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:15,640
Speaker 3: than the truth, then Grandpa's a piece of shit. So

1603
01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:17,960
Speaker 3: it has to be the truth. So now I'm on

1604
01:25:18,040 --> 01:25:21,840
Speaker 3: a fucking plantation toward going So how happy were the

1605
01:25:21,880 --> 01:25:25,360
Speaker 3: slaves here? What I mean, isn't it true that slaves

1606
01:25:25,400 --> 01:25:28,559
Speaker 3: are happy being they got food and they will treat

1607
01:25:28,600 --> 01:25:31,439
Speaker 3: it well. So that's why it works that way. And

1608
01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:35,200
Speaker 3: I think if you examine your own privilege. You'll find

1609
01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:37,360
Speaker 3: something you take for granted that way, and it's how

1610
01:25:37,400 --> 01:25:42,800
Speaker 3: we become victims of sexism, anti blackness, homophobia, transphobia. It's

1611
01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:45,280
Speaker 3: how we do it. It's because it becomes so normalized

1612
01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:47,840
Speaker 3: we start taking it for granted because we don't even

1613
01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:50,400
Speaker 3: examine it. And most white people will never pick up

1614
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:53,880
Speaker 3: a book and learn about anything about slavery period. They'll

1615
01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:56,120
Speaker 3: never do it. You know, the only thing they're ever

1616
01:25:56,120 --> 01:25:58,000
Speaker 3: going to learn about slavery is my grandpa said he

1617
01:25:58,080 --> 01:26:01,439
Speaker 3: treated the slaves good or you know, the good masters

1618
01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:04,439
Speaker 3: was this, and there was occasionally a couple bad right eggs,

1619
01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:07,600
Speaker 3: But you know, don't let that define all slavery for you.

1620
01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:10,479
Speaker 3: And we as black people know there's no illusion because

1621
01:26:10,479 --> 01:26:13,080
Speaker 3: we lived it. We're like, no, my grandmama would not.

1622
01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:16,800
Speaker 3: My grandmama told me the other stories, so I don't

1623
01:26:16,840 --> 01:26:19,200
Speaker 3: have the luxury of what I was told it was okay,

1624
01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:22,040
Speaker 3: you know, So I think there's there's a part of

1625
01:26:22,120 --> 01:26:24,760
Speaker 3: that that I think that's why they end up kind

1626
01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:29,439
Speaker 3: of being robbed at the faculties to even process this information,

1627
01:26:29,760 --> 01:26:31,559
Speaker 3: because then they have to go through the entire lineage

1628
01:26:31,560 --> 01:26:34,000
Speaker 3: of their family and be like my family are slaves

1629
01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:37,280
Speaker 3: trading pieces of shit yep.

1630
01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:42,880
Speaker 1: And also I think, uh, you just make me think about,

1631
01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:44,920
Speaker 1: like you said, the stories that I told, because, like

1632
01:26:45,000 --> 01:26:48,040
Speaker 1: I say, we're told the completely different stories. So that's

1633
01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:51,160
Speaker 1: why I'm like, the fuck it's called goddamn slavery, Like

1634
01:26:51,960 --> 01:26:54,880
Speaker 1: you took some people were taking away from your from

1635
01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:56,599
Speaker 1: their land, and families was broken up.

1636
01:26:56,680 --> 01:26:59,280
Speaker 3: How was this happy? How was this joyous? What is

1637
01:26:59,360 --> 01:27:00,720
Speaker 3: so great about this?

1638
01:27:01,320 --> 01:27:04,360
Speaker 1: But then, like you say, it's one of those things

1639
01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:07,479
Speaker 1: where they have been washed, brainwashed in history.

1640
01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:10,320
Speaker 3: History is told.

1641
01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:12,280
Speaker 1: Through the people that want quote unquote a history is

1642
01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:14,120
Speaker 1: told by the people that have the privilege and the

1643
01:27:14,200 --> 01:27:18,800
Speaker 1: luxury of rewriting history. And whiteness and white supremacy has

1644
01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:21,800
Speaker 1: been allowed to rewhite history. You know, facts be damn

1645
01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:25,800
Speaker 1: And because we're of the age now where majority of

1646
01:27:25,880 --> 01:27:29,920
Speaker 1: the people that were slaves, they are handful that are alive,

1647
01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:34,160
Speaker 1: but most of them are gone away. And because most

1648
01:27:34,200 --> 01:27:36,760
Speaker 1: of them are going away and dead and gone, you

1649
01:27:37,040 --> 01:27:41,439
Speaker 1: have generations of black people that are actually ashamed of slavery,

1650
01:27:41,560 --> 01:27:44,320
Speaker 1: feel bad about slavery, don't want to talk about slavery.

1651
01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:48,000
Speaker 3: So not only do you have the white children getting robbed.

1652
01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:50,080
Speaker 1: You also have the black children getting robbed from their

1653
01:27:50,200 --> 01:27:52,320
Speaker 1: history and knowing the truth about it too, because everybody

1654
01:27:52,400 --> 01:27:54,360
Speaker 1: quote unquote wants to feel ashamed about it.

1655
01:27:55,200 --> 01:28:02,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, and honestly, there's no bigger proof that for centuries

1656
01:28:02,520 --> 01:28:07,320
Speaker 3: and obviously to this day, for some white people that

1657
01:28:07,479 --> 01:28:11,240
Speaker 3: they have never felt kinship with us as humans. They've

1658
01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:15,320
Speaker 3: really felt we were a subspecies of animal, like they

1659
01:28:15,400 --> 01:28:18,680
Speaker 3: did not think we were the same as processing our

1660
01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:22,120
Speaker 3: emotions to them. It's the reason that our health outcomes

1661
01:28:22,120 --> 01:28:24,439
Speaker 3: are different with doctors because they literally don't think we

1662
01:28:24,479 --> 01:28:26,439
Speaker 3: feel the same amount of pain and that our bodies

1663
01:28:26,479 --> 01:28:31,160
Speaker 3: worked different. Yeah, there's uh, there's also the reason that

1664
01:28:31,479 --> 01:28:35,200
Speaker 3: you know, you can have the cognitive disonance, dissonance of

1665
01:28:35,400 --> 01:28:39,240
Speaker 3: affirmtive action. People don't belong here, But these actors and

1666
01:28:39,320 --> 01:28:41,320
Speaker 3: stuff that paid for their kids to get in there,

1667
01:28:41,439 --> 01:28:43,680
Speaker 3: I never questioned did they belong in college? You know.

1668
01:28:44,280 --> 01:28:46,760
Speaker 3: It's that kind of thing. So I think a lot

1669
01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:52,880
Speaker 3: of a lot of the happy slave narrative stuff. It

1670
01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:58,719
Speaker 3: goes directly back to wanting to be able to love

1671
01:28:59,280 --> 01:29:01,800
Speaker 3: people who have done horrible things, and in the same

1672
01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:05,000
Speaker 3: way that people treat Michael Jackson's music I like Michael

1673
01:29:05,080 --> 01:29:08,800
Speaker 3: Jackson's music, so he must not touch those boys. I

1674
01:29:08,960 --> 01:29:11,040
Speaker 3: love Grandpa, so he must not have been mean to

1675
01:29:11,120 --> 01:29:16,040
Speaker 3: his slaves. His slaves. I can't process like I'm saying

1676
01:29:16,120 --> 01:29:18,519
Speaker 3: the word slave and feeling like they just part of

1677
01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:21,960
Speaker 3: the family. I saw a thread on Facebook one time.

1678
01:29:22,080 --> 01:29:25,800
Speaker 3: It was older white people sharing pictures of black people

1679
01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:30,000
Speaker 3: that used to that were either slaves or like work

1680
01:29:30,120 --> 01:29:33,000
Speaker 3: for their family is in some sort of menial capacity

1681
01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:36,200
Speaker 3: where I say many or not, but them demean the work.

1682
01:29:36,240 --> 01:29:39,639
Speaker 3: But to say, like they were not really seen as family.

1683
01:29:40,600 --> 01:29:43,760
Speaker 3: But these white people would, they would fondly look back

1684
01:29:43,760 --> 01:29:45,839
Speaker 3: at these pictures. They were like, Oh, we had Bessie.

1685
01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:48,680
Speaker 3: She was a She worked for my father, for our

1686
01:29:48,760 --> 01:29:51,680
Speaker 3: family for generations. She raised me. She was practically my

1687
01:29:51,880 --> 01:29:56,880
Speaker 3: second mother. And I'm like, so, y'all basically have either

1688
01:29:57,000 --> 01:30:00,120
Speaker 3: like a slave or a person that y'all had and

1689
01:30:00,160 --> 01:30:03,679
Speaker 3: stripted to work. What about Bessie's children while she's raising

1690
01:30:03,720 --> 01:30:08,800
Speaker 3: your children, who's raising hers? What about the schooling she gave, y'all?

1691
01:30:09,000 --> 01:30:10,479
Speaker 3: What about the schooling for her kids?

1692
01:30:10,600 --> 01:30:10,760
Speaker 7: You know?

1693
01:30:11,640 --> 01:30:13,800
Speaker 3: What about her husband and things that had to be

1694
01:30:13,880 --> 01:30:16,240
Speaker 3: done around their house. And they would go they were

1695
01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:22,000
Speaker 3: basically like family. You know, Aunt Jemima, that like the

1696
01:30:22,040 --> 01:30:26,240
Speaker 3: aunt that thing that yeah, Uncle Ben like, these are

1697
01:30:26,320 --> 01:30:30,000
Speaker 3: black slaves and the workers that we quote unwot quote

1698
01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:32,080
Speaker 3: consider family because they do things for us. They make

1699
01:30:32,160 --> 01:30:36,439
Speaker 3: delicious pancakes, or they make great rights, or they clean

1700
01:30:37,360 --> 01:30:40,240
Speaker 3: something for us. So there's this disconnect that white people

1701
01:30:40,240 --> 01:30:43,280
Speaker 3: will always have, and because most of them will never

1702
01:30:43,360 --> 01:30:46,240
Speaker 3: choose to educate themselves, they will always have between slavery

1703
01:30:46,400 --> 01:30:49,280
Speaker 3: and the abject horror that it was, and the fact

1704
01:30:49,320 --> 01:30:52,759
Speaker 3: that the purveyors of that horror were their family members.

1705
01:30:53,479 --> 01:30:56,200
Speaker 3: So it's something I've just come to accept.

1706
01:30:57,600 --> 01:30:57,640
Speaker 1: It.

1707
01:30:58,200 --> 01:31:01,400
Speaker 3: Obviously, it could still make me mad. I try not

1708
01:31:01,520 --> 01:31:05,040
Speaker 3: to let it make me mad, you know. Like I said,

1709
01:31:05,080 --> 01:31:06,600
Speaker 3: one of the reasons I read so much about this

1710
01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:09,360
Speaker 3: kind of shit is because I know that it has

1711
01:31:09,400 --> 01:31:11,680
Speaker 3: the capacity to make me mad, and I want to

1712
01:31:11,720 --> 01:31:17,759
Speaker 3: be able to like soberly handle it internally without always

1713
01:31:17,800 --> 01:31:19,639
Speaker 3: being driven to anger when I read this kind of shit.

1714
01:31:19,760 --> 01:31:23,040
Speaker 3: But yes, it's unconscionable that they do not see us

1715
01:31:23,040 --> 01:31:25,519
Speaker 3: as human, to the point where in twenty nineteen the

1716
01:31:25,560 --> 01:31:26,439
Speaker 3: sign was hanging.

1717
01:31:26,280 --> 01:31:30,080
Speaker 1: Up right and nobody and I guarantee you this is

1718
01:31:30,200 --> 01:31:31,759
Speaker 1: not the first time that it's brought to their attention.

1719
01:31:32,600 --> 01:31:34,680
Speaker 1: This is the first time because of social media and

1720
01:31:34,720 --> 01:31:36,880
Speaker 1: the way the internet rolls, and people are like the

1721
01:31:37,040 --> 01:31:38,880
Speaker 1: fuck is this? That was like, oh, take that shit down.

1722
01:31:39,120 --> 01:31:41,760
Speaker 3: Here's a real question, Karen, What age do you think

1723
01:31:41,760 --> 01:31:44,280
Speaker 3: the people who see that sign are children?

1724
01:31:44,600 --> 01:31:44,720
Speaker 1: Right?

1725
01:31:45,080 --> 01:31:49,080
Speaker 3: They're indoctrinated from a young age that that eight because then,

1726
01:31:49,360 --> 01:31:52,120
Speaker 3: because see the thing is, as black kids, we've gone

1727
01:31:52,160 --> 01:31:54,519
Speaker 3: to some of these sites in the South. Being from

1728
01:31:54,560 --> 01:31:57,920
Speaker 3: North Carolina, I still remember James K. Polk's house and

1729
01:31:58,000 --> 01:32:00,720
Speaker 3: the slave quarters on the side today. I don't know

1730
01:32:00,760 --> 01:32:03,040
Speaker 3: if they still go to it, but they're still there. Well,

1731
01:32:04,160 --> 01:32:06,720
Speaker 3: we were children when we went to that, and the

1732
01:32:06,840 --> 01:32:10,040
Speaker 3: thing I remember the most is, even as a kid

1733
01:32:10,240 --> 01:32:14,559
Speaker 3: walking on the grounds, I was the most curious about

1734
01:32:14,600 --> 01:32:17,800
Speaker 3: the slave quarters because I knew that's what slavery like.

1735
01:32:18,360 --> 01:32:21,600
Speaker 3: This dude was alive when slavery was okay, so I

1736
01:32:21,760 --> 01:32:25,439
Speaker 3: knew that they would. I'm like, hmmm, and my parents

1737
01:32:25,439 --> 01:32:27,840
Speaker 3: and because my parents had already kind of given me

1738
01:32:27,960 --> 01:32:31,800
Speaker 3: some shit to read about this stuff, so I was like, okay,

1739
01:32:32,360 --> 01:32:35,760
Speaker 3: I'm on. It's a morbid curiosity almost because I want

1740
01:32:35,800 --> 01:32:39,360
Speaker 3: to see myself where's my role in this? Okay, this

1741
01:32:39,439 --> 01:32:43,080
Speaker 3: guy was president means nothing to me, I can't, you know.

1742
01:32:43,360 --> 01:32:47,360
Speaker 3: But the people that worked for him, the people that

1743
01:32:47,560 --> 01:32:50,519
Speaker 3: were in script conscripted to him, now that those are

1744
01:32:50,680 --> 01:32:53,439
Speaker 3: those might be my ancestors. So I wanted to see

1745
01:32:53,479 --> 01:32:56,479
Speaker 3: the slave quarters and stuff, and you know, they show

1746
01:32:56,520 --> 01:32:59,000
Speaker 3: us that stuff, and I asked questions, and of course

1747
01:32:59,000 --> 01:33:01,679
Speaker 3: they're just avoiding the tough answers of it. There. They're

1748
01:33:01,680 --> 01:33:04,640
Speaker 3: shooting me bullshit, like, well, they were workers, and they

1749
01:33:04,760 --> 01:33:06,880
Speaker 3: worked out here in this quarters, and they slept here

1750
01:33:07,000 --> 01:33:10,680
Speaker 3: and all that stuff, and you know, of there the

1751
01:33:10,760 --> 01:33:17,439
Speaker 3: whole time, and it sank in the like horror of

1752
01:33:17,520 --> 01:33:22,439
Speaker 3: it all. And I think every kid of mine there

1753
01:33:22,840 --> 01:33:25,479
Speaker 3: felt that horror because even then you can see the

1754
01:33:25,560 --> 01:33:27,400
Speaker 3: slave quarters are not as well kept as the house.

1755
01:33:28,240 --> 01:33:30,400
Speaker 3: You know, like they had a much smaller place to live,

1756
01:33:30,520 --> 01:33:33,840
Speaker 3: they had less insulation, and it was probably colder there,

1757
01:33:34,400 --> 01:33:36,120
Speaker 3: all that type of stuff. So you could see, like

1758
01:33:36,640 --> 01:33:38,519
Speaker 3: this is a lesser quality of life on the same

1759
01:33:38,600 --> 01:33:41,960
Speaker 3: place that this that that they had to stay. And

1760
01:33:42,200 --> 01:33:44,799
Speaker 3: this man is fucking living in a lap of luxury

1761
01:33:44,880 --> 01:33:46,800
Speaker 3: in the in the house with a fireplace and shit, right,

1762
01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:51,680
Speaker 3: And so I remember looking at all of that and

1763
01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:55,400
Speaker 3: it got so real to me, like, damn, they kept

1764
01:33:55,560 --> 01:33:59,040
Speaker 3: human beings, they kept people, my people in this place.

1765
01:33:59,800 --> 01:34:03,960
Speaker 3: And at the same time, those white kids were realizing

1766
01:34:04,040 --> 01:34:06,880
Speaker 3: it too, And so that's why you have to have

1767
01:34:07,000 --> 01:34:09,439
Speaker 3: the sign, or you have to have the person that

1768
01:34:09,520 --> 01:34:13,360
Speaker 3: does a toyter goes it's not that bad, because those

1769
01:34:13,400 --> 01:34:16,160
Speaker 3: white kids were realizing it was that bad, it was

1770
01:34:16,280 --> 01:34:19,840
Speaker 3: that real. So then you have to wash over their

1771
01:34:19,840 --> 01:34:21,360
Speaker 3: feelings and be like, oh, it's not as bad as

1772
01:34:21,400 --> 01:34:24,759
Speaker 3: you think. Oh, look, hey, guys, look we're making cormeal cakes.

1773
01:34:25,240 --> 01:34:28,040
Speaker 3: You know, I still remember they made those fucking flat,

1774
01:34:28,160 --> 01:34:30,760
Speaker 3: flat flat cakes or whatever they were called, you know,

1775
01:34:31,120 --> 01:34:33,200
Speaker 3: like I still remember the smell and the taste of them.

1776
01:34:33,720 --> 01:34:35,640
Speaker 3: It was like to distract us from like you are

1777
01:34:35,720 --> 01:34:37,599
Speaker 3: here with the slave quarters there where if they didn't

1778
01:34:37,600 --> 01:34:39,479
Speaker 3: make these cakes, they probably got burned with a hot

1779
01:34:39,520 --> 01:34:42,479
Speaker 3: iron or hit with a whip or some shit where

1780
01:34:42,479 --> 01:34:44,400
Speaker 3: they wish they could just be living their life and

1781
01:34:44,479 --> 01:34:48,120
Speaker 3: now they're stuck here. So that was kind of that

1782
01:34:48,320 --> 01:34:50,759
Speaker 3: that I've never forgotten that that that feeling.

1783
01:34:50,960 --> 01:34:54,479
Speaker 1: So and you know, and the more and more you

1784
01:34:54,640 --> 01:35:00,439
Speaker 1: think about it, it's sad. But and I've kind of

1785
01:35:00,439 --> 01:35:05,639
Speaker 1: talked about this. I was almost the opposite of you, because,

1786
01:35:05,760 --> 01:35:07,360
Speaker 1: like I said, my family didn't really get in a

1787
01:35:07,439 --> 01:35:10,080
Speaker 1: here girl read this, learned about this, learned about your history.

1788
01:35:10,160 --> 01:35:12,760
Speaker 1: So when we went to I remember going to the

1789
01:35:12,840 --> 01:35:16,800
Speaker 1: James K. Polk House, I was oblivious. I remember a

1790
01:35:16,840 --> 01:35:20,080
Speaker 1: lot of soap. I remember them black decks, I remember Papae's.

1791
01:35:20,200 --> 01:35:21,719
Speaker 1: I remember it being a good time.

1792
01:35:22,600 --> 01:35:23,120
Speaker 3: I don't.

1793
01:35:23,360 --> 01:35:26,000
Speaker 1: It's sad, but like the whole thing was just, oh,

1794
01:35:26,080 --> 01:35:28,160
Speaker 1: this was the day to get out of school. I

1795
01:35:28,240 --> 01:35:29,959
Speaker 1: didn't go and question slavery.

1796
01:35:30,080 --> 01:35:32,120
Speaker 3: I didn't go. I'm just spiging my spence. I didn't go.

1797
01:35:32,200 --> 01:35:36,880
Speaker 1: I didn't question any of that because I wasn't taught Hey, hey,

1798
01:35:37,439 --> 01:35:38,320
Speaker 1: you need to pay.

1799
01:35:38,240 --> 01:35:38,920
Speaker 3: Attention to this.

1800
01:35:39,120 --> 01:35:42,120
Speaker 1: You like, like you're actually going somewhere that you need

1801
01:35:42,200 --> 01:35:45,000
Speaker 1: to pay respect to, like these we're going.

1802
01:35:44,920 --> 01:35:48,080
Speaker 3: Somewhere where your people and your history and your connection

1803
01:35:50,840 --> 01:35:57,000
Speaker 3: to Africa is. You know that really wasn't embedded in me.

1804
01:35:57,200 --> 01:35:59,000
Speaker 1: A lot of the things that I learned, and a

1805
01:35:59,040 --> 01:36:01,479
Speaker 1: lot of the knowledge that I learned about my people

1806
01:36:03,200 --> 01:36:07,120
Speaker 1: and where I am now, A lot of that ship

1807
01:36:07,160 --> 01:36:09,439
Speaker 1: I learned as an adult, which is completely sad.

1808
01:36:10,000 --> 01:36:12,599
Speaker 3: You know the first time. I remember, Actually I gotta

1809
01:36:12,600 --> 01:36:14,599
Speaker 3: go to the next session, but go ahead, keep talking.

1810
01:36:14,680 --> 01:36:15,840
Speaker 5: Okay, we're going next session.

1811
01:36:15,880 --> 01:36:17,840
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, give us the second guys, We'll be

1812
01:36:17,960 --> 01:36:20,120
Speaker 3: right back. I hate to cut caring off for the

1813
01:36:20,120 --> 01:36:21,160
Speaker 3: second time this episode.

1814
01:36:22,720 --> 01:36:24,679
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, we're not live.

1815
01:36:24,960 --> 01:36:26,360
Speaker 3: Oh we are. Oh okay.

1816
01:36:28,080 --> 01:36:33,679
Speaker 1: And I think for me, uh, I was as eager

1817
01:36:33,720 --> 01:36:35,559
Speaker 1: than as the white children were in my opinion.

1818
01:36:35,600 --> 01:36:37,360
Speaker 3: You know, you didn't really make me think about that

1819
01:36:37,439 --> 01:36:38,200
Speaker 3: till you was talking about you.

1820
01:36:38,240 --> 01:36:39,960
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I was as oblivious as the

1821
01:36:40,000 --> 01:36:42,360
Speaker 1: white children were because I didn't know.

1822
01:36:42,800 --> 01:36:43,599
Speaker 3: It wasn't taught.

1823
01:36:43,800 --> 01:36:47,160
Speaker 1: You know, nobody was like, hey girl paid the ship

1824
01:36:47,240 --> 01:36:50,120
Speaker 1: any attention, Like none of that happened. So, you know,

1825
01:36:50,360 --> 01:36:53,679
Speaker 1: I learned a lot about my history and my people

1826
01:36:53,840 --> 01:36:56,880
Speaker 1: and all that stuff as an adult. You know, I

1827
01:36:57,320 --> 01:37:00,479
Speaker 1: never took African American history. I wasn't required to, not

1828
01:37:00,560 --> 01:37:03,360
Speaker 1: even in college. And it's nothing that I was like, Oh,

1829
01:37:03,439 --> 01:37:05,000
Speaker 1: I got to learn about this. You know how some

1830
01:37:05,080 --> 01:37:06,519
Speaker 1: people get to the point where they go, I want

1831
01:37:06,560 --> 01:37:06,920
Speaker 1: to learn.

1832
01:37:07,040 --> 01:37:11,000
Speaker 3: I have a desire to learn, Like none of that

1833
01:37:12,960 --> 01:37:14,000
Speaker 3: had an interest in me.

1834
01:37:14,560 --> 01:37:16,880
Speaker 1: But I know I was black, you know, I you know,

1835
01:37:17,080 --> 01:37:22,400
Speaker 1: I knew racist things happened, but you know that won't

1836
01:37:22,439 --> 01:37:26,840
Speaker 1: even that desire to learn the shit that they don't

1837
01:37:26,880 --> 01:37:28,800
Speaker 1: teach you in school. I never had that until I

1838
01:37:28,920 --> 01:37:31,960
Speaker 1: became an adult. And then I got to the point

1839
01:37:31,960 --> 01:37:35,920
Speaker 1: where I felt bad and ashamed and I felt terrible that,

1840
01:37:36,720 --> 01:37:39,400
Speaker 1: you know, I wasn't taught these things, these things wanting

1841
01:37:40,560 --> 01:37:45,000
Speaker 1: bestowed upon me, and I felt ashamed and I felt embarrassed.

1842
01:37:45,120 --> 01:37:47,240
Speaker 3: But you get there. Whenever you get there.

1843
01:37:47,320 --> 01:37:49,040
Speaker 1: That's I had to come to that conclusion, because you

1844
01:37:49,120 --> 01:37:51,799
Speaker 1: can beat yourself up so bad, you can beat yourself

1845
01:37:51,880 --> 01:37:55,479
Speaker 1: out of actually learning because you're mad that you didn't know,

1846
01:37:55,640 --> 01:37:57,720
Speaker 1: or you're afraid, or you were shamed, or you have

1847
01:37:57,880 --> 01:38:00,120
Speaker 1: these these fears of of.

1848
01:38:02,080 --> 01:38:03,080
Speaker 3: Learning these things.

1849
01:38:03,320 --> 01:38:05,800
Speaker 1: And I think for me, the reality of a lot

1850
01:38:05,880 --> 01:38:09,320
Speaker 1: of this stuff really didn't sink in for me until

1851
01:38:09,360 --> 01:38:11,240
Speaker 1: we went to Charceton a few years ago and we

1852
01:38:11,360 --> 01:38:14,800
Speaker 1: went to that slave or not slay, but but the

1853
01:38:14,880 --> 01:38:19,240
Speaker 1: market where they sold you know, box sold slaves like

1854
01:38:20,360 --> 01:38:22,240
Speaker 1: and you know what, I guarantee you they probably had

1855
01:38:22,520 --> 01:38:25,640
Speaker 1: something like that after day, but I just flat ignored it.

1856
01:38:26,120 --> 01:38:26,240
Speaker 11: Uh.

1857
01:38:26,360 --> 01:38:28,760
Speaker 1: But that was the first time where I mean, because

1858
01:38:28,760 --> 01:38:31,880
Speaker 1: it's like you know this shit exists, but it's nothing

1859
01:38:32,080 --> 01:38:35,439
Speaker 1: like you've been like, oh my god, oh my god,

1860
01:38:36,439 --> 01:38:39,760
Speaker 1: like like it's like the switch came on and my

1861
01:38:39,920 --> 01:38:43,800
Speaker 1: eyes opened up, and the reality you hear about these things.

1862
01:38:43,840 --> 01:38:48,000
Speaker 1: But between you hearing about these things and you actually

1863
01:38:48,000 --> 01:38:52,680
Speaker 1: physically seeing documentations and seeing paperwork and seeing things and

1864
01:38:52,840 --> 01:38:56,720
Speaker 1: hearing voices where the reality of it sinks in were

1865
01:38:56,880 --> 01:39:00,599
Speaker 1: deeply to me because I never experienced that those things,

1866
01:39:00,960 --> 01:39:03,760
Speaker 1: you know, because most of my life it's been black

1867
01:39:03,800 --> 01:39:07,240
Speaker 1: and white kids going to school, you know. So I

1868
01:39:07,800 --> 01:39:11,000
Speaker 1: reaped the benefits of the people of the sixties and seventies.

1869
01:39:11,080 --> 01:39:13,280
Speaker 1: So I reaped the benefits of those things, because you

1870
01:39:13,320 --> 01:39:15,679
Speaker 1: want your children to have a better future. But reaping

1871
01:39:15,720 --> 01:39:21,479
Speaker 1: the benefits also means the the the white washing of things,

1872
01:39:21,520 --> 01:39:24,280
Speaker 1: which I didn't realize at the time. So I think

1873
01:39:24,760 --> 01:39:28,559
Speaker 1: for me, my experience was just a little bit different.

1874
01:39:28,680 --> 01:39:31,560
Speaker 1: And now I hunger, I desire. I want to know

1875
01:39:31,720 --> 01:39:35,720
Speaker 1: more than I ever known before. You know, once you

1876
01:39:35,960 --> 01:39:39,680
Speaker 1: realize you know what happened on the slave ships when

1877
01:39:39,680 --> 01:39:42,439
Speaker 1: they were bringing them over, how many people, you know

1878
01:39:42,720 --> 01:39:46,040
Speaker 1: are basically at the you know, bottom of the ocean.

1879
01:39:46,240 --> 01:39:49,320
Speaker 1: Millions of people quote unquote possibly it's at the bottom

1880
01:39:49,360 --> 01:39:53,120
Speaker 1: of the ocean, all chained together. You know, when you

1881
01:39:53,280 --> 01:39:56,599
Speaker 1: think about you know, them pulling salt on their wounds

1882
01:39:56,640 --> 01:39:57,880
Speaker 1: and shit like that, why they.

1883
01:39:57,880 --> 01:39:59,800
Speaker 3: Will own these boats. When you know, when you begin

1884
01:39:59,880 --> 01:40:02,599
Speaker 3: to process this stuff, the shit just becomes more real.

1885
01:40:02,720 --> 01:40:05,040
Speaker 1: And it just gave me a desire to want to know,

1886
01:40:05,760 --> 01:40:08,719
Speaker 1: just so I can be educated, just so when people

1887
01:40:08,880 --> 01:40:11,160
Speaker 1: come at me and people say these very ignorant things,

1888
01:40:11,400 --> 01:40:12,160
Speaker 1: I won't.

1889
01:40:11,920 --> 01:40:14,519
Speaker 3: Be swayed, just to be like, oh, you know what,

1890
01:40:15,000 --> 01:40:18,640
Speaker 3: slavery wun't that bad? Yeah? And also, there is no

1891
01:40:18,760 --> 01:40:21,559
Speaker 3: shame in not knowing when you're a kid and stuff,

1892
01:40:21,920 --> 01:40:25,479
Speaker 3: because it's not for us not to know, you know

1893
01:40:25,520 --> 01:40:27,400
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So that's the reason I don't feel

1894
01:40:27,439 --> 01:40:30,760
Speaker 3: like I don't shame people for not knowing history and shit.

1895
01:40:30,920 --> 01:40:33,240
Speaker 3: I think all of us kind of come to it

1896
01:40:33,400 --> 01:40:36,400
Speaker 3: and unless there's intervention, you never know, you know. I'm glad.

1897
01:40:36,400 --> 01:40:41,120
Speaker 3: I'm very thankful for my parents, teachers that tried to

1898
01:40:41,160 --> 01:40:43,760
Speaker 3: help me the game, you know, Like that's why it's

1899
01:40:43,760 --> 01:40:47,960
Speaker 3: important to have black teachers. You know, someone brought up church,

1900
01:40:48,040 --> 01:40:49,400
Speaker 3: but to be honest, I didn't get a lot of

1901
01:40:49,439 --> 01:40:51,800
Speaker 3: history lessons in church. Church was more obsessed at least

1902
01:40:52,040 --> 01:40:54,000
Speaker 3: when I was a kid, the churches I went to

1903
01:40:54,240 --> 01:40:59,880
Speaker 3: was more obsessed with like, man, I don't mean this

1904
01:41:00,080 --> 01:41:02,000
Speaker 3: to sound demeaning, but it was more of a white

1905
01:41:02,040 --> 01:41:06,960
Speaker 3: supremacy type of like doctrine to the church, and the

1906
01:41:07,080 --> 01:41:09,040
Speaker 3: church had to kind of be that way in order

1907
01:41:09,080 --> 01:41:12,599
Speaker 3: to survive. Like not every church was Martin Luther King's church,

1908
01:41:12,800 --> 01:41:15,280
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Some churches are very much like,

1909
01:41:16,600 --> 01:41:19,240
Speaker 3: you know, white Jesus on the walls type of church.

1910
01:41:20,280 --> 01:41:24,280
Speaker 3: So we weren't getting a lot of like I said,

1911
01:41:24,560 --> 01:41:26,320
Speaker 3: I don't you know, I don't mean this to like

1912
01:41:26,479 --> 01:41:28,519
Speaker 3: down all churches or nothing, but once I went to

1913
01:41:28,720 --> 01:41:30,720
Speaker 3: at least of the few I went to when I

1914
01:41:30,840 --> 01:41:35,560
Speaker 3: was a kid, it wasn't necessarily like black power empowerment

1915
01:41:35,760 --> 01:41:40,360
Speaker 3: during Black History Month, Like, yeah, they celebrated, you know,

1916
01:41:40,920 --> 01:41:43,720
Speaker 3: Martin Luther King, you know, like the reverence, you know

1917
01:41:43,760 --> 01:41:46,439
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, the respectable ones, but they weren't really

1918
01:41:46,520 --> 01:41:50,639
Speaker 3: about the non respectable type of revolutionary type of protests

1919
01:41:50,680 --> 01:41:54,280
Speaker 3: and stuff. And they also weren't really interested in putting

1920
01:41:54,400 --> 01:41:58,040
Speaker 3: like white supremacy on display as like whatever, because at

1921
01:41:58,080 --> 01:42:00,200
Speaker 3: the end of the day, white supremacy brought us a

1922
01:42:00,760 --> 01:42:03,679
Speaker 3: lot of US Christianity in at least the American version,

1923
01:42:03,800 --> 01:42:07,840
Speaker 3: so it was a complicated fucking mess of a relationship

1924
01:42:09,080 --> 01:42:12,599
Speaker 3: with church and white supremacy, so even Black church of course.

1925
01:42:13,560 --> 01:42:15,960
Speaker 3: But yet, oh go ahead, I'm sorry, but yeah, I

1926
01:42:16,040 --> 01:42:19,320
Speaker 3: was just gonna say, there's no shame in it. And honestly,

1927
01:42:19,520 --> 01:42:21,240
Speaker 3: I don't even like, I know this is a big

1928
01:42:21,320 --> 01:42:23,599
Speaker 3: thing for a lot of black people because they're angry

1929
01:42:23,640 --> 01:42:25,760
Speaker 3: and stuff, but I don't really want white people to

1930
01:42:25,840 --> 01:42:29,160
Speaker 3: feel ashamed about this shit. I want them to learn

1931
01:42:29,240 --> 01:42:32,600
Speaker 3: about it so then they can stop it. They have

1932
01:42:32,720 --> 01:42:34,760
Speaker 3: way more power than us. It's not our job to

1933
01:42:34,800 --> 01:42:37,840
Speaker 3: stop this. The only thing we really can do is

1934
01:42:37,960 --> 01:42:40,320
Speaker 3: kind of educate white people on what the fuck is

1935
01:42:40,360 --> 01:42:43,280
Speaker 3: the problem, you know, not saying that there's no means

1936
01:42:43,320 --> 01:42:46,040
Speaker 3: of revolutionary protest, blah blah bla. But even if you

1937
01:42:46,080 --> 01:42:48,000
Speaker 3: look at most of our protests, our protest is to

1938
01:42:48,040 --> 01:42:50,640
Speaker 3: bring awareness to something, to get other people to do

1939
01:42:50,760 --> 01:42:53,479
Speaker 3: the work to stop it, because we don't have the

1940
01:42:53,800 --> 01:42:55,120
Speaker 3: power in those places to do it.

1941
01:42:55,240 --> 01:42:55,360
Speaker 1: You know.

1942
01:42:55,520 --> 01:42:58,160
Speaker 3: Kaepefnick's taking the knee is a great example of somebody

1943
01:42:58,240 --> 01:43:01,360
Speaker 3: that is really about elevating the conversation to get awareness

1944
01:43:01,680 --> 01:43:03,840
Speaker 3: for other people to do the problem, to solve it,

1945
01:43:03,960 --> 01:43:04,120
Speaker 3: you know.

1946
01:43:04,520 --> 01:43:08,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, And because the way white supremacists and the way

1947
01:43:08,640 --> 01:43:12,080
Speaker 1: the structure is, you know, because I had to change

1948
01:43:12,160 --> 01:43:13,800
Speaker 1: my philosophy on a lot of things.

1949
01:43:14,000 --> 01:43:16,280
Speaker 5: I don't care how we get to a conclusion. Let's

1950
01:43:16,320 --> 01:43:17,280
Speaker 5: just get to the conclusion.

1951
01:43:17,520 --> 01:43:21,080
Speaker 1: Because the thing is, you have to disrupt whiteness for

1952
01:43:21,200 --> 01:43:23,880
Speaker 1: white people to look, and you have to disrupt it badly.

1953
01:43:24,200 --> 01:43:26,080
Speaker 1: And once people like, oh, you're fucking up my brunch,

1954
01:43:26,120 --> 01:43:27,840
Speaker 1: what the fuck, they give them what the fuck they want,

1955
01:43:28,200 --> 01:43:30,320
Speaker 1: so that they can quit blocking the street, giving them

1956
01:43:30,320 --> 01:43:32,200
Speaker 1: what the fuck they want, so I ain't got to

1957
01:43:32,280 --> 01:43:35,000
Speaker 1: be with them being downtown and wasting my taxpayers money.

1958
01:43:35,120 --> 01:43:38,120
Speaker 3: Well, that's that's one thing, right, But that's not education, No,

1959
01:43:38,280 --> 01:43:41,479
Speaker 3: that's not that's just this is inconvenient, and now I

1960
01:43:41,680 --> 01:43:43,800
Speaker 3: just want to fucking I'll put on the Black Lives

1961
01:43:43,880 --> 01:43:48,000
Speaker 3: Matter shirre of y'all stop. Right, that's different. I think

1962
01:43:48,040 --> 01:43:51,840
Speaker 3: there has to be some level of like work where

1963
01:43:52,080 --> 01:43:54,760
Speaker 3: these motherfuckers are educated about this kind of shit so

1964
01:43:54,880 --> 01:43:57,360
Speaker 3: that it then stops. Because if you don't know better,

1965
01:43:57,439 --> 01:44:00,080
Speaker 3: you will never do better. And the society's design for

1966
01:44:00,160 --> 01:44:04,360
Speaker 3: them to a never know and b one confronted to

1967
01:44:04,520 --> 01:44:09,240
Speaker 3: feel bad, and then they're feeling supersede everything that comes

1968
01:44:09,280 --> 01:44:09,640
Speaker 3: after that.

1969
01:44:10,000 --> 01:44:12,640
Speaker 1: And I agree, and I think it used to make

1970
01:44:12,680 --> 01:44:14,640
Speaker 1: me mad because I'm like, the fuck you don't why

1971
01:44:14,680 --> 01:44:16,519
Speaker 1: don't you just get it? Like, what the why do

1972
01:44:16,600 --> 01:44:18,720
Speaker 1: we have to keep going through these fucking cycles over

1973
01:44:18,720 --> 01:44:21,360
Speaker 1: and over and over again? And everybody acts like they repeat,

1974
01:44:21,360 --> 01:44:24,040
Speaker 1: and everybody gets the amnesia and nobody fucking remembers, and

1975
01:44:24,160 --> 01:44:26,799
Speaker 1: everybody forgets that this is some shit that's been happening

1976
01:44:27,080 --> 01:44:29,800
Speaker 1: forever and ever and ever. People forget about the you know,

1977
01:44:29,960 --> 01:44:32,080
Speaker 1: the walks in the marches they had back in the day,

1978
01:44:32,479 --> 01:44:34,200
Speaker 1: all you it's just a reboot.

1979
01:44:34,240 --> 01:44:35,360
Speaker 3: They're doing the same thing now.

1980
01:44:35,479 --> 01:44:39,040
Speaker 1: People forget about these black towns, you know, where where

1981
01:44:39,160 --> 01:44:40,080
Speaker 1: where they're they're.

1982
01:44:39,920 --> 01:44:41,959
Speaker 3: Police with these white police officers.

1983
01:44:42,240 --> 01:44:44,080
Speaker 1: And you get to the point where it's a racial

1984
01:44:44,160 --> 01:44:47,000
Speaker 1: and you know, aggression and and and and and and

1985
01:44:48,360 --> 01:44:51,839
Speaker 1: the city is about to explode, and then it explodes.

1986
01:44:51,920 --> 01:44:54,400
Speaker 1: Black people start protesting, burning shit down, and white people

1987
01:44:54,400 --> 01:44:56,360
Speaker 1: want to express like that's the ship that used to

1988
01:44:56,400 --> 01:44:58,880
Speaker 1: make me really mad. So I'm not I'm not gonna

1989
01:44:58,880 --> 01:45:00,560
Speaker 1: say I gave up on whiteness, but right, fuck it,

1990
01:45:00,880 --> 01:45:03,000
Speaker 1: just pass laws so you won't do this fucked up

1991
01:45:03,000 --> 01:45:03,559
Speaker 1: shit to us.

1992
01:45:04,400 --> 01:45:06,800
Speaker 3: But you are on those same field trips and you

1993
01:45:06,920 --> 01:45:10,120
Speaker 3: didn't know and you weren't curious to know. No, you're

1994
01:45:10,160 --> 01:45:14,960
Speaker 3: not even white, so they have even lesson centered you

1995
01:45:15,000 --> 01:45:17,400
Speaker 3: see what I'm saying. It's all designed that way. So

1996
01:45:17,600 --> 01:45:20,519
Speaker 3: I mean, even the look at these cycles and da

1997
01:45:20,640 --> 01:45:22,559
Speaker 3: da da da, we don't like looking at the cycles.

1998
01:45:22,720 --> 01:45:25,479
Speaker 3: In many cases, we are the ones like, stop showing

1999
01:45:25,560 --> 01:45:28,320
Speaker 3: my children that shit. A lot of black people feel

2000
01:45:28,400 --> 01:45:30,720
Speaker 3: the duality of blackness in America. We feel like we

2001
01:45:30,800 --> 01:45:34,280
Speaker 3: are taking our children's childhood away to tell them slavery existed,

2002
01:45:34,400 --> 01:45:37,200
Speaker 3: to tell them these are your ancestors, and that white

2003
01:45:37,240 --> 01:45:41,320
Speaker 3: people have done horrible things historically, and not all this

2004
01:45:41,360 --> 01:45:44,320
Speaker 3: stuff is to be trusted. And systemic racism exists, and

2005
01:45:44,400 --> 01:45:46,280
Speaker 3: you can get caught up in the system and we

2006
01:45:46,400 --> 01:45:48,479
Speaker 3: all and we have a duality about that because on

2007
01:45:48,560 --> 01:45:50,280
Speaker 3: the one hand, yes, I don't want my child to

2008
01:45:50,320 --> 01:45:53,439
Speaker 3: be fucking traumatize leaving the house. On the other hand,

2009
01:45:53,520 --> 01:45:55,840
Speaker 3: I am responsible for raising a fucking black child to

2010
01:45:55,880 --> 01:45:59,280
Speaker 3: adulthood in a world that is trying to fuck them over.

2011
01:45:59,479 --> 01:46:02,799
Speaker 3: So it's you know, it's a thing that makes people angry.

2012
01:46:03,360 --> 01:46:06,880
Speaker 3: But like I said, I try to educate myself to

2013
01:46:06,920 --> 01:46:09,720
Speaker 3: get past just being angry about the shit, because the

2014
01:46:09,840 --> 01:46:12,680
Speaker 3: next thing is like, so, what benefit is there to

2015
01:46:12,840 --> 01:46:15,519
Speaker 3: learning and stuff? What benefit is there? What connections do

2016
01:46:15,640 --> 01:46:18,600
Speaker 3: I see today from things that were happening? Then? What

2017
01:46:19,400 --> 01:46:21,960
Speaker 3: things do I not trust today? Because I couldn't trust

2018
01:46:21,960 --> 01:46:23,680
Speaker 3: because I know better than to trust them then, and

2019
01:46:23,720 --> 01:46:26,840
Speaker 3: I look at what people trusted like, you know, one

2020
01:46:26,840 --> 01:46:28,640
Speaker 3: of the reasons I don't really get mad at the

2021
01:46:28,640 --> 01:46:31,240
Speaker 3: people who get mad about the crime Bill, even though

2022
01:46:31,280 --> 01:46:33,000
Speaker 3: I know it's very like what do you call it,

2023
01:46:33,080 --> 01:46:36,679
Speaker 3: revision's history to be mad like black people wanted that bill.

2024
01:46:37,360 --> 01:46:39,920
Speaker 3: I was old enough to remember them wanting that bill

2025
01:46:40,360 --> 01:46:42,680
Speaker 3: and to be like, these crackheads are ruining our neighborhoods

2026
01:46:42,680 --> 01:46:45,680
Speaker 3: blah blah blah, and then to watch it now. I

2027
01:46:45,680 --> 01:46:47,719
Speaker 3: don't get mad at people because they have the sober

2028
01:46:47,840 --> 01:46:50,280
Speaker 3: hindsight of now to be like, no, this thing was horrible.

2029
01:46:50,840 --> 01:46:53,760
Speaker 3: Aided mass incarceration. It treated black people that were drug

2030
01:46:54,040 --> 01:46:57,439
Speaker 3: addicts like they were fucking criminals, like they were drug dealers,

2031
01:46:57,560 --> 01:46:59,640
Speaker 3: like you know, like they were less than human. But

2032
01:46:59,800 --> 01:47:01,800
Speaker 3: the thing is, I want to know about that so

2033
01:47:01,880 --> 01:47:03,840
Speaker 3: I can connect it to the day, like what's the

2034
01:47:03,920 --> 01:47:05,439
Speaker 3: newest thing? You know what I'm saying, Like what are

2035
01:47:05,439 --> 01:47:09,040
Speaker 3: we looking at now we talk about massivecarceration? What might

2036
01:47:09,080 --> 01:47:13,120
Speaker 3: be some of the pitfalls and Van Jones's Massive Carceration

2037
01:47:13,240 --> 01:47:16,720
Speaker 3: Bill and stuff like that. These kind of connections come

2038
01:47:16,840 --> 01:47:20,840
Speaker 3: from learning that shit. You know, it comes from you know,

2039
01:47:21,240 --> 01:47:25,200
Speaker 3: going on these trips. And so this one sign being

2040
01:47:25,280 --> 01:47:29,040
Speaker 3: taken down is obviously a good thing, But my question becomes,

2041
01:47:29,120 --> 01:47:32,160
Speaker 3: what's the sign that goes up to replace it? Come right?

2042
01:47:32,880 --> 01:47:35,560
Speaker 3: Because now let's talk about the truth. Now, now that

2043
01:47:35,600 --> 01:47:38,559
Speaker 3: we've gotten a lout of the room, let's get these

2044
01:47:38,640 --> 01:47:41,560
Speaker 3: kids some truth. Let's talk about the horrible conditions of

2045
01:47:41,600 --> 01:47:45,439
Speaker 3: slavery even on your plantation that you opened up to

2046
01:47:45,520 --> 01:47:47,519
Speaker 3: the public probably and let be like as some sort

2047
01:47:47,560 --> 01:47:49,559
Speaker 3: of you know, because to them, they're like, I let

2048
01:47:49,640 --> 01:47:51,880
Speaker 3: people come to my plantation to show them the history

2049
01:47:51,960 --> 01:47:55,639
Speaker 3: of just plantation South. They don't think the history of slavery.

2050
01:47:56,280 --> 01:47:59,040
Speaker 3: Tell me about the slaves that escape, what happened during

2051
01:47:59,080 --> 01:48:02,000
Speaker 3: the Civil war, Tell me about post civil war them,

2052
01:48:02,320 --> 01:48:06,559
Speaker 3: tell me about you know, where are the Where did

2053
01:48:06,560 --> 01:48:09,400
Speaker 3: those slaves and their families go? What are their lives like?

2054
01:48:09,800 --> 01:48:12,040
Speaker 3: Did they become your sharecroppers? Did they leave? Did they

2055
01:48:12,080 --> 01:48:14,760
Speaker 3: go to Chicago? Like these type of things, you know.

2056
01:48:15,000 --> 01:48:17,400
Speaker 3: And that's that's the question that I always come up with.

2057
01:48:17,840 --> 01:48:20,600
Speaker 3: It's not just taking the sign down, it's not just

2058
01:48:20,680 --> 01:48:23,120
Speaker 3: taking out a Confederate flag or a Civil War monument

2059
01:48:23,240 --> 01:48:27,960
Speaker 3: to the South. What goes up? And that's the thing

2060
01:48:28,040 --> 01:48:30,559
Speaker 3: I think we haven't gotten to yet. Everybody's so convinced

2061
01:48:30,560 --> 01:48:33,080
Speaker 3: that we can just take down this history and we've

2062
01:48:33,160 --> 01:48:35,559
Speaker 3: done our job, and I'm like, that's not the point.

2063
01:48:35,880 --> 01:48:40,320
Speaker 3: And I love the end of this article because the

2064
01:48:40,400 --> 01:48:43,640
Speaker 3: person they interviewed about it says, I'm not saying we

2065
01:48:43,640 --> 01:48:46,080
Speaker 3: should get rid of these things, but they need to

2066
01:48:46,120 --> 01:48:48,639
Speaker 3: be put in the proper historical context. We do ourselves

2067
01:48:48,720 --> 01:48:51,000
Speaker 3: no favors by pretending that this thing didn't exist when

2068
01:48:51,040 --> 01:48:55,519
Speaker 3: it did. That's the part that I that I'm about. Yeah, And.

2069
01:48:58,280 --> 01:49:03,360
Speaker 1: Sometimes I feel is though, I guess because I'm not

2070
01:49:03,400 --> 01:49:04,960
Speaker 1: gonna say you quote unquote being in a fight, but

2071
01:49:05,040 --> 01:49:10,840
Speaker 1: because you're more willing to and have learned you have

2072
01:49:10,960 --> 01:49:14,160
Speaker 1: on history with accepting a lot of things than I have.

2073
01:49:15,320 --> 01:49:17,719
Speaker 1: And so I don't want to say you're quote unquote

2074
01:49:17,760 --> 01:49:19,400
Speaker 1: on the other side, because things do bother you and

2075
01:49:19,439 --> 01:49:22,639
Speaker 1: they make you angry. But I know for me, I'm

2076
01:49:22,720 --> 01:49:26,479
Speaker 1: quicker to get angry because so I haven't made it

2077
01:49:26,600 --> 01:49:28,080
Speaker 1: to the other side. But the thing is, you got

2078
01:49:28,120 --> 01:49:29,519
Speaker 1: to make it to the other side, because once you

2079
01:49:29,560 --> 01:49:32,639
Speaker 1: get to the other side, you can view things out

2080
01:49:32,680 --> 01:49:34,760
Speaker 1: of the lens of anger. Yes, they you will not

2081
01:49:35,160 --> 01:49:36,640
Speaker 1: that you won't get mad, you won't get upset and

2082
01:49:36,640 --> 01:49:39,400
Speaker 1: all that stuff, but you'll you'll look at it from

2083
01:49:39,439 --> 01:49:41,040
Speaker 1: a different perspective.

2084
01:49:41,520 --> 01:49:44,800
Speaker 3: And you also go, well, what can we do?

2085
01:49:45,600 --> 01:49:50,160
Speaker 1: And also you realize the same conclusion that most black

2086
01:49:50,240 --> 01:49:53,639
Speaker 1: leaders did years ago. You can't make a change because

2087
01:49:53,640 --> 01:49:56,080
Speaker 1: the structure of white supremacy in the way this country is,

2088
01:49:56,160 --> 01:49:59,120
Speaker 1: you can't make any significant changes in this country.

2089
01:49:58,880 --> 01:49:59,920
Speaker 5: Without white people, period.

2090
01:50:00,439 --> 01:50:02,280
Speaker 3: So you've got to reach across that out.

2091
01:50:02,600 --> 01:50:06,800
Speaker 1: And so I understand these attica, attica, these fuck all

2092
01:50:06,840 --> 01:50:10,240
Speaker 1: white I understand how they got there, But the way

2093
01:50:10,360 --> 01:50:11,880
Speaker 1: this country functions.

2094
01:50:11,479 --> 01:50:14,080
Speaker 3: The reality of it, you cannot do it alone.

2095
01:50:14,120 --> 01:50:16,320
Speaker 1: Whiteness has got to help you in some way shape

2096
01:50:16,320 --> 01:50:19,520
Speaker 1: from a faction, and whiteness can't help you with white supremacy.

2097
01:50:19,640 --> 01:50:21,479
Speaker 1: So these white people have got to be taught. They

2098
01:50:21,560 --> 01:50:23,840
Speaker 1: got to learn, They got to you know, somebody has

2099
01:50:23,920 --> 01:50:28,280
Speaker 1: got to go through the process of getting them to

2100
01:50:28,360 --> 01:50:30,400
Speaker 1: the point where they have a full understanding.

2101
01:50:30,880 --> 01:50:33,880
Speaker 3: And the thing is, once they're taught, they need to

2102
01:50:33,960 --> 01:50:34,840
Speaker 3: go teach others.

2103
01:50:35,280 --> 01:50:37,799
Speaker 1: And the thing is, like we talked about before, everybody

2104
01:50:37,920 --> 01:50:40,720
Speaker 1: wants to you have white people out here doing the

2105
01:50:40,840 --> 01:50:42,800
Speaker 1: work and doing these things that people claim, and then

2106
01:50:42,840 --> 01:50:45,000
Speaker 1: people want to criticize them about doing the work.

2107
01:50:45,040 --> 01:50:45,920
Speaker 3: You can't have it both ways.

2108
01:50:45,960 --> 01:50:47,800
Speaker 1: You can't be like white people, teach yourself and then

2109
01:50:47,840 --> 01:50:49,639
Speaker 1: white people, why the fuck are you teaching yourselves?

2110
01:50:49,960 --> 01:50:51,920
Speaker 3: You know, you can't have it but ways.

2111
01:50:52,400 --> 01:50:55,360
Speaker 1: I enjoy the fact that once a white person understands,

2112
01:50:55,439 --> 01:50:57,320
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, I'm not here for the bullshit they

2113
01:50:57,400 --> 01:51:00,920
Speaker 1: call they call other people out to take that hit.

2114
01:51:01,040 --> 01:51:03,840
Speaker 3: In whiteness. There's a resentment that we will always have

2115
01:51:03,960 --> 01:51:09,040
Speaker 3: for white people. That will be at some times, well

2116
01:51:10,880 --> 01:51:12,519
Speaker 3: probably the vast majority of the time, it will be

2117
01:51:12,600 --> 01:51:16,400
Speaker 3: non constructive and not productive. Correct, But that's just part

2118
01:51:16,400 --> 01:51:19,080
Speaker 3: of the game now, Like we are old that, you know,

2119
01:51:19,280 --> 01:51:21,519
Speaker 3: and I'm not saying it's right. I'm not saying it's fair.

2120
01:51:21,520 --> 01:51:24,760
Speaker 3: I'm not even saying it's really For the most part,

2121
01:51:24,800 --> 01:51:29,960
Speaker 3: it is not very expedient, and it's not very Yeah,

2122
01:51:30,080 --> 01:51:32,400
Speaker 3: it's just it's like if I was teaching a class,

2123
01:51:32,439 --> 01:51:34,479
Speaker 3: it's not the best way to teach a class. And

2124
01:51:34,600 --> 01:51:37,000
Speaker 3: that's why you have to separate that out of the situation,

2125
01:51:37,160 --> 01:51:39,400
Speaker 3: because I think we have to have that. We have

2126
01:51:39,479 --> 01:51:41,160
Speaker 3: to have places where we can be angry and we

2127
01:51:41,240 --> 01:51:44,080
Speaker 3: convent and we can rage, and we also have to

2128
01:51:44,120 --> 01:51:47,519
Speaker 3: have points where there's work to educate and to move

2129
01:51:47,600 --> 01:51:51,320
Speaker 3: people that we can somehow separate that out for the

2130
01:51:51,400 --> 01:51:55,240
Speaker 3: time being, because the humanity of people is still kind

2131
01:51:55,280 --> 01:51:57,320
Speaker 3: of universal. It doesn't really matter if you're white, black,

2132
01:51:57,400 --> 01:52:00,280
Speaker 3: or whatever. The humanity of a person, the huge of

2133
01:52:00,320 --> 01:52:01,880
Speaker 3: a person is about the same. So if I come

2134
01:52:01,920 --> 01:52:03,599
Speaker 3: in and start yelling at you, most people are gonna

2135
01:52:03,600 --> 01:52:05,680
Speaker 3: get defensive and walk the fuck away. It doesn't matter

2136
01:52:05,680 --> 01:52:07,560
Speaker 3: if they're white or black. Nope. Like a lot of

2137
01:52:08,120 --> 01:52:10,959
Speaker 3: what I've noticed with social media activism and online activism,

2138
01:52:11,520 --> 01:52:16,920
Speaker 3: it assumes some level of like altruistic tolerance from white

2139
01:52:16,920 --> 01:52:20,160
Speaker 3: people that has never been there. And I don't know

2140
01:52:20,200 --> 01:52:24,160
Speaker 3: why anyone would assume that it could be where it's like,

2141
01:52:24,240 --> 01:52:26,680
Speaker 3: I'm gonna yell at this white person into doing what

2142
01:52:26,760 --> 01:52:28,840
Speaker 3: I want them to do, and then and then we

2143
01:52:28,960 --> 01:52:32,080
Speaker 3: see that cycle not work over and over and over again,

2144
01:52:32,640 --> 01:52:34,280
Speaker 3: and so then you have to look at the whole situation.

2145
01:52:34,360 --> 01:52:36,559
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, you're just yelling because you're already upset.

2146
01:52:37,280 --> 01:52:40,040
Speaker 3: You're not at the point where this is about educating anyone.

2147
01:52:40,160 --> 01:52:43,240
Speaker 3: You expect to be blocked or muted or unfollowed or

2148
01:52:43,680 --> 01:52:45,599
Speaker 3: whatever the fuck. And then when the white person plays

2149
01:52:45,680 --> 01:52:47,519
Speaker 3: victim because they kind of have been made the victim

2150
01:52:47,560 --> 01:52:50,200
Speaker 3: in this point, then we all mock the victim and

2151
01:52:50,240 --> 01:52:51,960
Speaker 3: it's the same cycle over and over. But it's really

2152
01:52:52,000 --> 01:52:56,479
Speaker 3: about venting anger more than anything else, right, So that's

2153
01:52:56,520 --> 01:52:59,160
Speaker 3: not necessarily constructive. You look at most black leaders that

2154
01:53:00,400 --> 01:53:02,920
Speaker 3: have decided to try to better things in real life.

2155
01:53:03,040 --> 01:53:05,920
Speaker 3: They can't do that all the time. Like they may

2156
01:53:06,000 --> 01:53:07,880
Speaker 3: have an angry speech or two, but it's not just

2157
01:53:08,080 --> 01:53:10,880
Speaker 3: I spend the whole world day. I spend my whole

2158
01:53:11,000 --> 01:53:15,280
Speaker 3: day yelling at white people and chastising them, right, because

2159
01:53:15,479 --> 01:53:18,680
Speaker 3: we still want to educate them. But then there's this

2160
01:53:18,800 --> 01:53:23,760
Speaker 3: other part of it too, that is when you brought

2161
01:53:23,840 --> 01:53:27,840
Speaker 3: up being angry a lot of this stuff is just

2162
01:53:28,000 --> 01:53:30,759
Speaker 3: like anything else. Like I guess I still get angry

2163
01:53:30,800 --> 01:53:35,160
Speaker 3: as shit all the time. Shit when that is to me,

2164
01:53:35,280 --> 01:53:38,160
Speaker 3: I get angry at stuff more in the present than

2165
01:53:38,200 --> 01:53:41,720
Speaker 3: in the past. So like something horrible that happened in

2166
01:53:41,760 --> 01:53:44,920
Speaker 3: the past, I mean, it happened. It may be a

2167
01:53:45,040 --> 01:53:47,599
Speaker 3: horrible injustice, but it's nothing I can do about it now.

2168
01:53:48,240 --> 01:53:50,640
Speaker 3: And there's and there's also things that are like of

2169
01:53:50,760 --> 01:53:54,680
Speaker 3: the time, right right, excuse me. That doesn't make them

2170
01:53:54,760 --> 01:53:58,800
Speaker 3: less egregious, but it's of the time. But like I

2171
01:53:58,880 --> 01:54:01,439
Speaker 3: remember when that lady, I mean up the street, old

2172
01:54:01,479 --> 01:54:03,600
Speaker 3: black woman couldn't use the bathroom, had to urinate in

2173
01:54:03,720 --> 01:54:06,200
Speaker 3: a I mean, that made me so angry I cried,

2174
01:54:06,400 --> 01:54:08,840
Speaker 3: like like because it's an impotence in it, and then

2175
01:54:08,960 --> 01:54:12,599
Speaker 3: just a fundamental lack of humanity and understanding of us,

2176
01:54:12,720 --> 01:54:17,640
Speaker 3: and then a fundamental lack of change and progress. Now,

2177
01:54:17,680 --> 01:54:20,800
Speaker 3: of course it's anecdotal, but that's a very simple thing.

2178
01:54:20,960 --> 01:54:24,240
Speaker 3: That's very simple math, you know. And I don't care.

2179
01:54:24,360 --> 01:54:26,439
Speaker 3: I can't help but think if that was some white woman,

2180
01:54:27,520 --> 01:54:29,960
Speaker 3: old white woman, like, can I use your bad restroom?

2181
01:54:30,840 --> 01:54:33,760
Speaker 3: And they would just let her do it. But in

2182
01:54:33,840 --> 01:54:36,000
Speaker 3: a black part of town. Y'all think what it's a

2183
01:54:36,120 --> 01:54:39,960
Speaker 3: secret ninety seven year old grandma robbery, crons free going on. No,

2184
01:54:40,720 --> 01:54:44,240
Speaker 3: it's just your inhumanity, your lack of seeing us as people.

2185
01:54:44,560 --> 01:54:47,280
Speaker 3: So like, I get mad all the time, but there's

2186
01:54:47,320 --> 01:54:49,840
Speaker 3: phases to this shit. And so it's one of the

2187
01:54:49,880 --> 01:54:52,040
Speaker 3: reasons when Kaepernick took a knee and then they started

2188
01:54:52,040 --> 01:54:57,360
Speaker 3: asking his political opinion. You know, I laughed a little

2189
01:54:57,480 --> 01:54:59,640
Speaker 3: and I kind of chuckled because he sounds to me

2190
01:54:59,800 --> 01:55:05,760
Speaker 3: like every like freshman college black kid that starts reading

2191
01:55:05,840 --> 01:55:09,200
Speaker 3: about racism and slavery and then you get super fucking

2192
01:55:09,280 --> 01:55:12,920
Speaker 3: militant and all the fuck the entire system, fuck all

2193
01:55:13,000 --> 01:55:17,800
Speaker 3: the presidents, fuck politicians, fuck everything. You can't hundred father.

2194
01:55:17,920 --> 01:55:20,240
Speaker 3: But yees, yeah, Now I'm not saying hotel. I'm not

2195
01:55:20,320 --> 01:55:22,680
Speaker 3: saying hotel trade. I think that's a little different. But

2196
01:55:23,320 --> 01:55:26,720
Speaker 3: you know, you get that like one oh one level

2197
01:55:26,800 --> 01:55:30,360
Speaker 3: of like I'm mad. It's like, now what you're gonna

2198
01:55:30,360 --> 01:55:30,680
Speaker 3: do with it?

2199
01:55:31,200 --> 01:55:34,720
Speaker 5: I don't know, I'm mad, right, Like what, Okay, So what's.

2200
01:55:34,720 --> 01:55:36,560
Speaker 3: Next for you? And I think a lot of people

2201
01:55:36,600 --> 01:55:39,520
Speaker 3: are there, like, you know, we all have that in us.

2202
01:55:39,720 --> 01:55:42,600
Speaker 3: But also, like some people get stuck there obviously correct,

2203
01:55:42,920 --> 01:55:44,960
Speaker 3: but it's still a phase of the thing. It's a

2204
01:55:45,040 --> 01:55:47,760
Speaker 3: phase of the learning. Like it's the part is the

2205
01:55:47,880 --> 01:55:49,960
Speaker 3: ripping the band aid off that people say they don't

2206
01:55:49,960 --> 01:55:51,520
Speaker 3: want to do for black kids. I don't want my

2207
01:55:51,640 --> 01:55:53,840
Speaker 3: kid to know about this shit because they gonna be mad.

2208
01:55:54,600 --> 01:55:56,440
Speaker 3: But I just went through that a lot earlier than

2209
01:55:56,560 --> 01:55:59,120
Speaker 3: most people. I'm not correct. It's not that I'm like, oh,

2210
01:55:59,160 --> 01:56:01,080
Speaker 3: I'm so much moment here and I just know how

2211
01:56:01,120 --> 01:56:04,520
Speaker 3: to process. No, I was at thirteen being like, fuck

2212
01:56:04,640 --> 01:56:06,720
Speaker 3: all white people, I'm gonna join the Nation of Islam.

2213
01:56:06,840 --> 01:56:09,400
Speaker 3: Me and my friend Damien, his brother was in the Nation.

2214
01:56:09,640 --> 01:56:12,040
Speaker 3: Are you a full bag? I was like, these white

2215
01:56:12,120 --> 01:56:14,560
Speaker 3: devils and all this shit. I remember that at thirteen,

2216
01:56:14,800 --> 01:56:18,000
Speaker 3: like listen to publican to me and fucking X Clan

2217
01:56:18,160 --> 01:56:20,360
Speaker 3: and all this shit. I was convinced that fucking like,

2218
01:56:21,200 --> 01:56:24,200
Speaker 3: you know, all white people was just the evil yakoobian

2219
01:56:24,360 --> 01:56:26,320
Speaker 3: blah blah blahs, and I was, you know, and the

2220
01:56:26,360 --> 01:56:30,080
Speaker 3: pure righteous black man like you Like. That's just a

2221
01:56:30,200 --> 01:56:32,400
Speaker 3: part of the process, I think, And the later you

2222
01:56:32,520 --> 01:56:34,640
Speaker 3: do it in life, the more it happens, you know.

2223
01:56:35,920 --> 01:56:37,480
Speaker 3: But it's just what are you gonna do. Are you

2224
01:56:37,560 --> 01:56:40,040
Speaker 3: gonna educate yourself? Are you gonna learn? Are you just

2225
01:56:40,120 --> 01:56:43,720
Speaker 3: gonna be mad? And that's it because to me, it

2226
01:56:43,880 --> 01:56:46,280
Speaker 3: was a great relief in my life to know that

2227
01:56:46,760 --> 01:56:51,520
Speaker 3: these feelings weren't coming from nowhere, right. And uh, it's

2228
01:56:51,560 --> 01:56:54,360
Speaker 3: why get Out resonated with so many black people, because

2229
01:56:54,440 --> 01:56:56,400
Speaker 3: get Out is about a vibe, It's about a feeling.

2230
01:56:56,600 --> 01:56:58,480
Speaker 3: These white people want to take our bodies. They want

2231
01:56:58,520 --> 01:57:01,040
Speaker 3: to like, I can't trust you white people. They're smiling

2232
01:57:01,080 --> 01:57:02,880
Speaker 3: in my face. I don't like, why do I feel

2233
01:57:02,920 --> 01:57:05,360
Speaker 3: a distrust? And then you find this big, vast historical

2234
01:57:05,440 --> 01:57:09,800
Speaker 3: conspiracy of them, you know, essentially using our bodies and

2235
01:57:09,920 --> 01:57:12,480
Speaker 3: minds and labor and all this stuff and not respecting

2236
01:57:12,560 --> 01:57:17,160
Speaker 3: us at all. And so there's that level of paranoia

2237
01:57:17,360 --> 01:57:19,840
Speaker 3: that all black people live with, and it resonated with

2238
01:57:19,960 --> 01:57:23,000
Speaker 3: so many of us, you know, and I think that's

2239
01:57:23,120 --> 01:57:27,200
Speaker 3: kind of life for black people in America is as this'

2240
01:57:27,360 --> 01:57:31,240
Speaker 3: paranoia that I'm gonna tell black people, I'm glad we

2241
01:57:31,280 --> 01:57:33,320
Speaker 3: can use this platform to do it. But to be like, hey,

2242
01:57:33,880 --> 01:57:37,640
Speaker 3: pick up some books, watch a couple documentaries, read up

2243
01:57:37,680 --> 01:57:40,400
Speaker 3: on some shit. You will actually at first you're gonna

2244
01:57:40,400 --> 01:57:42,560
Speaker 3: be mad and shocked, and you're gonna be sad, you're

2245
01:57:42,600 --> 01:57:44,880
Speaker 3: gonna you're gonna go through aut the feelings. But at

2246
01:57:44,920 --> 01:57:46,920
Speaker 3: the end of that tunnel, I do feel like there

2247
01:57:47,000 --> 01:57:53,960
Speaker 3: is some relief because there's a reassuring that you're not crazy,

2248
01:57:55,120 --> 01:57:58,720
Speaker 3: You're not just somebody who thinks I feel awkward in

2249
01:57:58,800 --> 01:58:02,520
Speaker 3: these situations. I haven'tnxiety. This is founded in things that

2250
01:58:02,600 --> 01:58:05,560
Speaker 3: have happened. This is true, and now you have some

2251
01:58:05,920 --> 01:58:07,600
Speaker 3: So that's how I feel about it.

2252
01:58:07,800 --> 01:58:11,760
Speaker 1: And also for me, I think that, like I said,

2253
01:58:11,800 --> 01:58:14,640
Speaker 1: I'm not there yet, but now I can actually speak

2254
01:58:14,680 --> 01:58:18,520
Speaker 1: about things calmer, you know, more level headed.

2255
01:58:18,920 --> 01:58:21,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, those feelings are going to be there, but everything

2256
01:58:21,880 --> 01:58:25,720
Speaker 3: ain't rage. Everything ain't you. I just want to tear

2257
01:58:25,800 --> 01:58:29,320
Speaker 3: everything up. And the other thing is you learn. And

2258
01:58:29,440 --> 01:58:31,680
Speaker 3: this is the biggest, probably conceived of it all, And

2259
01:58:31,800 --> 01:58:34,000
Speaker 3: this is probably the most like of all the things

2260
01:58:34,040 --> 01:58:36,320
Speaker 3: that I can get upset about, This is probably the

2261
01:58:36,360 --> 01:58:39,200
Speaker 3: most upsetting is that we just don't learn about our

2262
01:58:39,280 --> 01:58:42,720
Speaker 3: heroes because of this. We learn about like a handful

2263
01:58:42,800 --> 01:58:46,080
Speaker 3: of them that have been pre selected as the acceptable

2264
01:58:46,120 --> 01:58:49,160
Speaker 3: black people. Yeah, the accept negro list Martin Luther King,

2265
01:58:50,360 --> 01:58:53,920
Speaker 3: Rosa Parks, who's actually the second. You know, like there

2266
01:58:53,960 --> 01:58:57,280
Speaker 3: was another black woman who was pregnant, dark skinned, and

2267
01:58:58,160 --> 01:59:00,720
Speaker 3: sad the same situation happened to her did not go

2268
01:59:00,840 --> 01:59:05,560
Speaker 3: as far. You know, we learned more about certain people

2269
01:59:05,720 --> 01:59:09,040
Speaker 3: Harriet Tubman. So these are not knocking these people. Harry

2270
01:59:09,080 --> 01:59:12,040
Speaker 3: Tubman is still my faith. But my point being, like

2271
01:59:12,360 --> 01:59:14,600
Speaker 3: there's a list of just oh, Charles Drew, you can

2272
01:59:14,680 --> 01:59:16,960
Speaker 3: learn about him, and then there's like people that did

2273
01:59:17,000 --> 01:59:21,320
Speaker 3: shit like started slave rebellions, you know. Then there's people

2274
01:59:21,400 --> 01:59:26,560
Speaker 3: that you know, were politicians in the South for the

2275
01:59:26,680 --> 01:59:27,840
Speaker 3: eight years of reconstruction.

2276
01:59:28,400 --> 01:59:28,560
Speaker 1: You know.

2277
01:59:28,880 --> 01:59:30,960
Speaker 3: Then there's you know, there's just this bunch of just

2278
01:59:31,040 --> 01:59:33,160
Speaker 3: a litmeant people. Every day I learned about some black

2279
01:59:33,200 --> 01:59:35,800
Speaker 3: person that was robbed from history from me, right, you

2280
01:59:35,880 --> 01:59:38,560
Speaker 3: know that no one in any classroom ever thought about

2281
01:59:38,640 --> 01:59:41,520
Speaker 3: teaching me about And that's the part that still makes

2282
01:59:41,560 --> 01:59:45,080
Speaker 3: me mad. But in general, like it's because we've been

2283
01:59:45,200 --> 01:59:48,920
Speaker 3: robbed of the resistance to this white supremacy, and that

2284
01:59:49,360 --> 01:59:52,520
Speaker 3: is as much what the purpose of not hurting those

2285
01:59:52,560 --> 01:59:55,520
Speaker 3: white kids feelings is. That's also the purpose of not

2286
01:59:55,640 --> 01:59:59,120
Speaker 3: teaching us about slavery. It's because then we as black

2287
01:59:59,200 --> 02:00:03,560
Speaker 3: kids will learn. Oh so part of The lazy slave

2288
02:00:03,680 --> 02:00:06,160
Speaker 3: narrative comes from the fact that slaves didn't want to

2289
02:00:06,160 --> 02:00:10,360
Speaker 3: do this work, and that was resistance to white people.

2290
02:00:11,080 --> 02:00:14,200
Speaker 3: What's lazier than having a slave? How you a hard

2291
02:00:14,280 --> 02:00:17,200
Speaker 3: working farmer and I'm doing all the work. So you

2292
02:00:17,280 --> 02:00:20,000
Speaker 3: know the way that white women were complicit in it,

2293
02:00:20,320 --> 02:00:24,120
Speaker 3: the way that you know the laws that changed that

2294
02:00:24,240 --> 02:00:27,800
Speaker 3: made that made black a thing, like like black was

2295
02:00:27,880 --> 02:00:30,000
Speaker 3: not a thing for a while. You just came over

2296
02:00:30,080 --> 02:00:32,920
Speaker 3: to America and you were it's so fucked up. What

2297
02:00:33,120 --> 02:00:36,880
Speaker 3: happened to northrom what he said that when he was like,

2298
02:00:37,040 --> 02:00:39,800
Speaker 3: you know, it's uh and Din your servants came to

2299
02:00:39,880 --> 02:00:42,080
Speaker 3: America and everybody was like, no, it was slaves, but

2300
02:00:42,200 --> 02:00:45,360
Speaker 3: it really wasn't. At first it wasn't dinher servants. Now

2301
02:00:45,400 --> 02:00:47,920
Speaker 3: I'm not really trying to correct the black face guy,

2302
02:00:48,320 --> 02:00:50,400
Speaker 3: like I'm not trying to help him out, so I

2303
02:00:50,560 --> 02:00:52,680
Speaker 3: just let it slide on the show. But he's right,

2304
02:00:52,880 --> 02:00:56,280
Speaker 3: that's what happened. And then at one point these motherfuckers

2305
02:00:56,360 --> 02:00:59,040
Speaker 3: absconded and said I don't feel like feeling out my contract.

2306
02:00:59,120 --> 02:01:01,920
Speaker 3: It was white and black people that left, and the

2307
02:01:02,040 --> 02:01:04,720
Speaker 3: loss said, we need to find these motherfuckers. So what

2308
02:01:04,800 --> 02:01:06,880
Speaker 3: we'll do will incentivize the white people to come back.

2309
02:01:07,200 --> 02:01:10,000
Speaker 3: So we'll say, hey, as a white person, you won't

2310
02:01:10,000 --> 02:01:12,800
Speaker 3: get in as much trouble, but that black motherfucker is

2311
02:01:12,880 --> 02:01:16,240
Speaker 3: in trouble. Okay, So then all of a sudden, guess

2312
02:01:16,280 --> 02:01:19,160
Speaker 3: what happens? I now am enlisted in helping you find

2313
02:01:19,200 --> 02:01:22,680
Speaker 3: this person. Now, black is a thing, you know what

2314
02:01:22,680 --> 02:01:25,640
Speaker 3: I'm saying, And that's something that people don't even know

2315
02:01:25,720 --> 02:01:26,600
Speaker 3: because it's not taught to.

2316
02:01:26,720 --> 02:01:28,360
Speaker 1: Us, right, And then when you tell you, when you

2317
02:01:28,480 --> 02:01:30,280
Speaker 1: think about it, it was white people that actually worked

2318
02:01:30,280 --> 02:01:32,200
Speaker 1: the fields too, but they got fucking paid. And there's

2319
02:01:32,240 --> 02:01:35,040
Speaker 1: something else they don't talk about white people service to like.

2320
02:01:35,160 --> 02:01:37,960
Speaker 3: It was not the same for white people, But it

2321
02:01:38,120 --> 02:01:40,920
Speaker 3: didn't start out different, is my point. It was the same.

2322
02:01:41,000 --> 02:01:43,760
Speaker 3: At first, something happened and then it's not the same.

2323
02:01:43,880 --> 02:01:46,680
Speaker 3: The same thing with the one drop rule and why

2324
02:01:46,880 --> 02:01:51,920
Speaker 3: black babies that are fathered by white men are considered

2325
02:01:52,480 --> 02:01:54,720
Speaker 3: black now, right, that it was not always the case.

2326
02:01:54,840 --> 02:01:56,680
Speaker 3: It was a time where a white man's rights were

2327
02:01:56,720 --> 02:02:02,000
Speaker 3: so strong. Whoever he sired was supposed inherit his whiteness. Right,

2328
02:02:02,120 --> 02:02:03,920
Speaker 3: Because how you're gonna tell me, as a white man,

2329
02:02:04,000 --> 02:02:06,600
Speaker 3: my fucking child is invaluable. And then they have a

2330
02:02:06,960 --> 02:02:10,360
Speaker 3: Then they basically had a court case that was like

2331
02:02:10,520 --> 02:02:15,960
Speaker 3: no black is black. That like a drop that motherfucker black.

2332
02:02:16,160 --> 02:02:18,400
Speaker 3: Don't fuck no black women have babies with them. We

2333
02:02:18,440 --> 02:02:21,160
Speaker 3: ain't giving them no rights. You can't free them. Their

2334
02:02:21,480 --> 02:02:25,240
Speaker 3: progeny will always be black like it now. Fathers the

2335
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Speaker 3: follows the mother in this situation, not the father.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: That was not always a case, but these are things

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Speaker 3: that they just don't teach us. So, man, we've talked.

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Speaker 3: That was a long, long tangent. That was not what

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Speaker 3: I planned on doing. I brought that story DA zero

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Speaker 3: T one hundred for that sign, oh one hundred sign. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I guess I'm gonna say seventy five because they took

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Speaker 3: the sign down, but uh put something else up, man,

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Speaker 3: with the truth because it was for so long. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, this is not me disagreeing. Okay,

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Speaker 3: I'm giving it my seventy five because they took it

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Speaker 3: down one hundreds. This is not a debate. So I

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Speaker 3: feel seventy five one point five million slavery era documents

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Speaker 3: will be digitized, helping African Americans to learn about their

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Speaker 3: lost ancestors. Open culture wonderful Yup. Freeman's Bureau project and

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Speaker 3: new initiative spearheaded by the Smithsonian, the National Archives, and

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Speaker 3: the Afro American Historical Genealogical Society and the Church of

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Speaker 3: Jesus Christ as Latter Day Saints will be made will

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Speaker 3: make available online one point five million historical documents, finally

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Speaker 3: allowing to senduts of former American slaves to learn more

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Speaker 3: about their family roots. Near the end of the US

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Speaker 3: Civil War, the Freeman's Bureau was created to help newly

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Speaker 3: free slaves find their footing in post Bellum America. The

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Speaker 3: Bureau opened schools to educate the literate the illiterate I'm sorry,

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02:03:47,800 --> 02:03:51,640
Speaker 3: managed hospitals, rational food and clothing for the destitute, and

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Speaker 3: even solemnize marriages. And along the way, the Bureau gathered

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Speaker 3: handwritten records on roughly four million African Americans. Now these

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02:03:58,920 --> 02:04:01,320
Speaker 3: documents are being digit ties of the help of volunteers.

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Speaker 3: About the end of twenty sixteen, they will be made

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Speaker 3: available in the searchable database at discovered freemen dot org.

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Speaker 3: Wait the end of twenty sixteen, since oh, I didn't

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Speaker 3: even know this, Oh yeah, here's tho. Okay, cool, I

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Speaker 3: just wanted to just shaded it on my Facebook. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: go to discover Freeman dot org. Speaking of preserving our history,

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Speaker 3: someone has said it in the chat room, so boom

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Speaker 3: uh and that one leads me zero fucked with oh zero.

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Speaker 1: And you know what, this will also give people a chance,

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02:04:30,840 --> 02:04:33,560
Speaker 1: you know, to start a lot of people hopefully will

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02:04:33,600 --> 02:04:35,680
Speaker 1: start acting like they uncles and their aunts and their

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02:04:35,720 --> 02:04:37,520
Speaker 1: great uncles and their great uncles, like names and shit

2376
02:04:37,600 --> 02:04:37,720
Speaker 1: like that.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna people gonna suck around and find their family members'

2378
02:04:40,280 --> 02:04:42,360
Speaker 3: names on somebody in some of these charts. That's a

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02:04:42,480 --> 02:04:43,480
Speaker 3: lot of growth.

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Speaker 1: So somebody is gonna be able to trust back their

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02:04:46,600 --> 02:04:48,560
Speaker 1: family tree further than they ever could before.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you can put your you can search for an ancestor,

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02:04:51,040 --> 02:04:53,200
Speaker 3: first and last name out here on Discovery your Roots.

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Speaker 3: Ooh yep. So all right, Uh, you know what, we've

2385
02:04:59,080 --> 02:05:01,480
Speaker 3: talked so long at this point, I'm not gonna play

2386
02:05:01,480 --> 02:05:03,160
Speaker 3: any other games. I'm just gonna get out of here.

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Speaker 3: We'll be back later in the week.

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Speaker 5: I enjoyed talking with you, and I always enjoy talking

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Speaker 5: with you.

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Speaker 3: We will do some sword ratching this though. Uh. Police

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02:05:34,600 --> 02:05:40,480
Speaker 3: family dollar clerk pulls gun on men armed with swords.

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02:05:41,240 --> 02:05:47,360
Speaker 3: Oh shit. First of all, First of all, apparently the

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02:05:47,440 --> 02:05:50,280
Speaker 3: Family Dollar clerk's are ready for all the smoke, all

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02:05:50,400 --> 02:05:53,920
Speaker 3: of it in the city. God damn. They was like,

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Speaker 3: oh work, Family Dollar was ready. It was a business.

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02:06:01,200 --> 02:06:05,520
Speaker 3: Ain't no family tree crank clink? Well you think the publics? Okay?

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02:06:05,600 --> 02:06:07,440
Speaker 3: My life is on the line every time I stepped

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Speaker 3: on five and five.

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Speaker 1: Two men are accused of walking into a Family Dollar

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Speaker 1: armed with swords. They were gonna try to rob the place,

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Speaker 1: but not before they were confronted by a clerk.

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Speaker 7: With a gun.

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Speaker 3: Jammy's priced back at the store today.

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Speaker 8: Hearing from a woman inside when this all went down.

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Speaker 4: Jimmi's Jonathan, a store manager, said, it all sounds bizarre

2406
02:06:25,120 --> 02:06:27,240
Speaker 4: when you think back on it, but in that moment,

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02:06:27,400 --> 02:06:29,680
Speaker 4: it was scary. She told me the store has been

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02:06:29,760 --> 02:06:33,240
Speaker 4: hit thirteen times since October and that's why she believes

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02:06:33,280 --> 02:06:35,440
Speaker 4: her coworker decided to carry a gun.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's okay. It was back to business for Precious Spenser.

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02:06:41,440 --> 02:06:45,200
Speaker 4: Just days after this, Family Dollar on Bessemer Road was

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Speaker 4: robbed by two men armed with swords.

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Speaker 3: They put that out of the head.

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Speaker 6: One had a short win and one had a long win.

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02:06:50,840 --> 02:06:53,800
Speaker 4: Precious, who had only been on the job for two days,

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02:06:54,360 --> 02:06:57,400
Speaker 4: was in the store with two more managers when it happened.

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Speaker 3: She said.

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02:06:58,400 --> 02:07:01,520
Speaker 4: One of those managers spotted two men and took action.

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02:07:01,760 --> 02:07:03,880
Speaker 6: So he got to the end of the hour. He

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02:07:03,920 --> 02:07:05,480
Speaker 6: had his gun and he's hand and he was like,

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02:07:05,720 --> 02:07:07,680
Speaker 6: they're robbing us, they robbing, they're robbing us.

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Speaker 3: So he holds his guns.

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Speaker 6: So he was like, well, when they seen me take

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02:07:10,840 --> 02:07:13,000
Speaker 6: my gun out, then they ran. But they came in

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02:07:13,080 --> 02:07:15,320
Speaker 6: here with swards. I was like, with swords, So he

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02:07:15,480 --> 02:07:17,240
Speaker 6: kind of throw those for a looke, because nobody never

2427
02:07:17,320 --> 02:07:20,160
Speaker 6: really got robbed with swords. Top my heads off and

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02:07:20,200 --> 02:07:20,800
Speaker 6: get this stuff with.

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02:07:22,040 --> 02:07:25,080
Speaker 3: How much do you have to get robbed for you

2430
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Speaker 3: to be like now, this one threw me for a

2431
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Speaker 3: looke because we never never would have saw it. So

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Speaker 3: I was, I guess, I guess the thirteenth or forte.

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Speaker 1: Time, I said, oh, okay, well you know what, that

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02:07:34,360 --> 02:07:36,600
Speaker 1: masic got tired. Look I'm tired of coming up the

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Speaker 1: short on my resident bench. It happened on they shift

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02:07:39,040 --> 02:07:39,400
Speaker 1: too a.

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Speaker 3: Right, you robbed us so much, you get a free sub, Like, ah,

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02:07:43,000 --> 02:07:45,040
Speaker 3: how many times y'all gonna be robbing us. Man, it's

2439
02:07:45,040 --> 02:07:48,280
Speaker 3: getting ridiculous. Also, I had to put this on screen

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02:07:48,360 --> 02:07:51,200
Speaker 3: so y'all can see this. This black dude that's behind

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02:07:51,280 --> 02:07:53,560
Speaker 3: Precious that clearly is one of those people that's happy

2442
02:07:53,600 --> 02:07:56,120
Speaker 3: the news is there so they can get on camera.

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02:07:56,760 --> 02:07:58,880
Speaker 3: This always cracks me up when you're robbing us.

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02:07:59,000 --> 02:08:00,640
Speaker 6: So he holds his gun, so he was like, well,

2445
02:08:00,680 --> 02:08:03,520
Speaker 6: when they seen me say my gun out, then they ran.

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02:08:03,600 --> 02:08:05,120
Speaker 6: But they came in here with swards. I was like,

2447
02:08:05,200 --> 02:08:07,360
Speaker 6: its wars, so it kind of throw us for a

2448
02:08:07,400 --> 02:08:10,160
Speaker 6: look because nobody never really got robbed with Fords. Gulled

2449
02:08:10,240 --> 02:08:11,840
Speaker 6: them to tie my heads off and get the stuff with.

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02:08:12,240 --> 02:08:13,760
Speaker 3: I don't get a precious set.

2451
02:08:13,800 --> 02:08:16,920
Speaker 4: Associates aren't allowed to carry guns on the job.

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02:08:17,000 --> 02:08:18,000
Speaker 3: They're supposed to have their hair.

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02:08:18,000 --> 02:08:19,400
Speaker 6: They supposed to have their hair. And I was like,

2454
02:08:19,640 --> 02:08:21,960
Speaker 6: I'm like, oh, well, he's like they robbed us too much.

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02:08:22,000 --> 02:08:24,600
Speaker 3: That's why I got my gun. So I'll stay why

2456
02:08:24,640 --> 02:08:25,680
Speaker 3: he feared the way he feeled.

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Speaker 6: You know what I'm say trying to Securio seven particts

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02:08:27,880 --> 02:08:29,680
Speaker 6: here because he was like, Precious, if that way here,

2459
02:08:29,840 --> 02:08:31,600
Speaker 6: what I'm telling what they would have done to yeat this.

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Speaker 11: Clerk did what they felt they had to do at

2461
02:08:33,320 --> 02:08:36,600
Speaker 11: that particular time. Luckily no one was injured.

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02:08:36,680 --> 02:08:40,760
Speaker 4: But make no mistake, Birmingham Police want these men off

2463
02:08:40,880 --> 02:08:41,440
Speaker 4: the streets.

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02:08:41,800 --> 02:08:44,960
Speaker 11: Even though this may seem funny to some, we still

2465
02:08:45,000 --> 02:08:48,080
Speaker 11: consider these guys as dangerous. But these guys could easily

2466
02:08:48,280 --> 02:08:51,640
Speaker 11: escalate to using any other type weapon firearms.

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02:08:52,720 --> 02:08:54,920
Speaker 4: That manager told me they are planning to get an

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Speaker 4: armed security guard.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 4: If you have any information, contact Birmingham Police at two

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02:08:59,560 --> 02:09:02,680
Speaker 4: five four seventeen fifty three. You can always call crime

2472
02:09:02,720 --> 02:09:04,720
Speaker 4: stoppers in the studio Jimmy's Price.

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02:09:04,760 --> 02:09:06,880
Speaker 1: W b r C Fox ex News on your side

2474
02:09:07,080 --> 02:09:09,640
Speaker 1: thanks to I don't know if they find somebody said

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02:09:09,640 --> 02:09:10,160
Speaker 1: that they fire.

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02:09:10,320 --> 02:09:10,800
Speaker 3: I don't think.

2477
02:09:10,840 --> 02:09:12,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if they did or now they may

2478
02:09:12,160 --> 02:09:15,400
Speaker 1: have had to because it's like you, they broke the policy,

2479
02:09:15,880 --> 02:09:18,240
Speaker 1: but they're like, well, god damn thirteen.

2480
02:09:17,960 --> 02:09:23,120
Speaker 3: Times that is normally how you get fired. Though, yeah, man,

2481
02:09:23,160 --> 02:09:25,640
Speaker 3: I can't lie. I mean, like, I'm security you should

2482
02:09:25,680 --> 02:09:27,040
Speaker 3: have been. Why do I got to be the one

2483
02:09:27,080 --> 02:09:27,880
Speaker 3: to lose my job?

2484
02:09:28,080 --> 02:09:30,360
Speaker 1: So it's for the greater good of y'all finally investing

2485
02:09:30,400 --> 02:09:31,640
Speaker 1: their money into armed security.

2486
02:09:32,080 --> 02:09:33,840
Speaker 3: Right should have been had it I would have read

2487
02:09:33,880 --> 02:09:40,080
Speaker 3: it like uh, I'm finna kill you. I'm finna kill you,

2488
02:09:41,880 --> 02:09:42,920
Speaker 3: and now you be.

2489
02:09:46,320 --> 02:09:46,520
Speaker 6: Yeh.

2490
02:09:52,080 --> 02:09:53,280
Speaker 3: The noise don't lig.

2491
02:09:56,720 --> 02:09:58,320
Speaker 1: It was like, I don't know about y'all, but I

2492
02:09:58,440 --> 02:10:00,720
Speaker 1: plan on going home tonight. I it's my job over

2493
02:10:00,800 --> 02:10:01,280
Speaker 1: this shit.

2494
02:10:01,240 --> 02:10:03,960
Speaker 3: Right, I lost my job, but I kept on the life.

2495
02:10:04,160 --> 02:10:06,920
Speaker 3: I know that much. Come on, all right, y'all, that's it.

2496
02:10:07,080 --> 02:10:09,360
Speaker 3: We'll be back later on in the weekend. Y'all. Don't

2497
02:10:09,440 --> 02:10:12,400
Speaker 3: hurt nobody out there. Please, don't you am the family dollars,

2498
02:10:12,480 --> 02:10:15,480
Speaker 3: treat them nice, all right, talk to y'all later till then.

2499
02:10:15,600 --> 02:10:18,440
Speaker 3: I love you, all right, I forgot hold up before

2500
02:10:18,480 --> 02:10:22,480
Speaker 3: I say that. No, this too much this afternoon. It's

2501
02:10:22,480 --> 02:10:24,960
Speaker 3: actually gonna be tomorrow morning at ten, okay, because Box

2502
02:10:25,080 --> 02:10:27,360
Speaker 3: is gonna see us, and I literally half forgot about.

2503
02:10:27,600 --> 02:10:29,880
Speaker 3: We said so the afternoon, so we'll do it tomorrow

2504
02:10:29,920 --> 02:10:32,720
Speaker 3: morning at ten. So all right, until then, I love you,