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Speaker 1: There is something that has always captivated uh, you, Matt

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Speaker 1: So let's jump right in. This is the legend of

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Speaker 1: Dieglock or the Bell. Oh is that a spoiler alert?

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Speaker 1: And maybe it is. I can't remember how we tackle

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Speaker 1: it in this episode, but it's a legendary thing. Maybe

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Speaker 1: it happened, maybe it didn't. Let's explore it. From UFOs

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Speaker 1: to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is riddled with

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Speaker 1: unexplained events. You can turn back now or learn the

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Speaker 1: stuff they don't want you to know. Hello, welcome back

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Speaker 1: to the show. My name is Matt, my name is

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Speaker 1: doled Guten tug get it. Guys. They call me ben

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Speaker 1: your you that makes this stuff they don't want you

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Speaker 1: to know. And today we're going to uh not quite

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter. It's an audio show. We're going to start

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Speaker 1: our Australian mate Stefan who wrote to us about this

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Speaker 1: Shrinking Gun. Even the look of it, it's got this

427
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: like kind of cyberpunk letting out cyberpunk, like steampunk, kind

428
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 1: of weird, like the coils and exposed metal. It seems

429
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 1: like something the Nazis would have been hip too. You know. Yeah,

430
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,719
Speaker 1: that is a great movie, all of the iterations of it.

431
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: I've I think I enjoyed all of them. Yeah. Wait,

432
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 1: there's more than two, aren't there. Honey, we shrunk ourselves. Honey,

433
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 1: we shrunk the Kids. Kids was first? Honey shrunk No

434
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 1: in particular, I guess I remember. The second one was Honey,

435
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: I blew up the baby right there. At least every

436
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 1: one wasn't straight to video Honey, we shrunk the budget. Honey,

437
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 1: I don't remember my childhood. Um. So, out of all

438
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:23,120
Speaker 1: of these proven uh proven weapons and pieces of technology

439
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,400
Speaker 1: like the hord Hure oh or the V two Rockets,

440
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 1: or of the Propaganda trilogy, the Propaganda Dynasty known as

441
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: Honey I Shrunk the Kids or prototype super weapons UH

442
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: one in particular, gets by far the most attention from

443
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 1: fringe theorists around the world and we will dive into

444
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: the story behind that after award from our sponsors, and

445
00:28:56,440 --> 00:29:01,719
Speaker 1: it now begins the legend of the nazill In two

446
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: thousand of Polish author named Igor Wittkowski published a book

447
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: called Prauda oh Wounder Waffle or the Truth about the

448
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: Wonder Weapon. And guess what, I didn't pronounce that correctly.

449
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: This was reprinted in German as die away at hobb

450
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: not even going to try that it was reprinted in German.

451
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 1: So this is the first public printed mention of what

452
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: this guy calls the Nazi Bell. And here is what

453
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: he claims. While conducting some research, he happened upon these

454
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,479
Speaker 1: transcripts from the interrogation of a Nazi s S officer

455
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: named Jacob Sporenberg. And inside this transcript he found the

456
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 1: first mention of this thing that was called the bell,

457
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 1: although it was in German and I can't do it correctly,

458
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: so dick luck. So he did all this during his

459
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 1: time as SS and police leader of Lublin in the

460
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: General Government of Occupied Poland. In August of nine then

461
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: he was captured after a relocation in Norway and was

462
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 1: extensively questioned. Um sporn R was extradited to Poland in

463
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: October of nine and then sentenced to death by a

464
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: Polish court in Warsaw in nineteen fifty The sentence was

465
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 1: carried out on December six of nineteen fifty two, when

466
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 1: he was executed by hanging. Um. Then, according to what Kowski,

467
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 1: he was shown these allegedly classified transcripts in August by

468
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 1: an unnamed Polish intelligence contact who said he had access

469
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: to Polish government documents regarding Nazi secret weapons. So what

470
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 1: Kowski maintains that he was only allowed to transcribe the

471
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: document and was not actually allowed to make any copies

472
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: of no photos, no primary source documentation. Uh. And the

473
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 1: legend was popularized by an author named Nick Cook, who

474
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 1: used Witkowski stories in his own book on zero point Energy.

475
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: So there's a lot to unpack here, right. Uh. This

476
00:30:55,920 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: guy was allegedly shown these documents, shown these transcripts, and

477
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: it seems like that might be a big red light

478
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: that's flashing and tells you, Okay, he's shown these things,

479
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: but he can't document them whatsoever. Um. Okay. It makes

480
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: you wonder about the intentions, if it's true, the intentions

481
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: of the person that showed it to him, and you know,

482
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 1: it also makes you wonder is this real? Right? So yeah,

483
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: there's a there's a weak spot in the argument there.

484
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: The first mention of this bell, whatever it might be, uh,

485
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: doesn't doesn't arrive until decades after the war, right, right,

486
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: So when when would this well, even if we just

487
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: say that the author says it happened in he was

488
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: shown these things. The book comes out in two thousands,

489
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: so it depends on, you know, how much of this

490
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: person's word we want to take for sac saint fact,

491
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: we do know that there were Nazi secret weapons because

492
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: Allied powers found a lot of them. We do know

493
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: that in some classified situations are dealing with compartment and

494
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: compartmentalized information as they will call it in the US,

495
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: that there are you know, situations where people are not

496
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: allowed to take photographic evidence or two be provided copies.

497
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a country where the Supreme Court,

498
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:36,479
Speaker 1: which has immense power, he doesn't ever doesn't get films.

499
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: You know, there are no cameras in the courtroom when

500
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: the ring braiths are in session. But there's nine of

501
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: them or you know there there will be there will

502
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: be there nine spots. So they're looking for the next

503
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: ring bearer. But but also an important detail here is

504
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: that Spornberg is dead. There's no record of him saying

505
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: anything about this the other time, and there's no way

506
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: with current technology that we can ask him. Um, so,

507
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: what the heck is this thing? It wasn't even around

508
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: and even though it was in two thousand, wasn't really

509
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: around in English much until the author Nick Cook made

510
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 1: a book looking into people, inventors, entrepreneurs who felt like

511
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: they had discovered of various forms of alternate energy, right,

512
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: zero point energy, anti gravity, stuff like that, all that jazz,

513
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: all that smooth jazz, something that will change the game, right?

514
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 1: So what? What the heck? What in Sam Hill? What

515
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: in Sweet Sninky Pete? Is this Nazi bell thing? Allegedly

516
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: it was an experiment carried out by third Riich scientists

517
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: working for the s S in a secret German facility

518
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: known as Dead Ice or the Giants. Uh. It's in

519
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: the once has Lost My and was close to the

520
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: Czech border. Do you think he's the same king like

521
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: from the Christmas song Good King Wincho Slaus? Was that

522
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 1: his his mind, his personal mind the very same? Unless

523
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 1: I mean, like, at least at a logically speaking who

524
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: knew he was a Nazi sympathizer. I feel like it's

525
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:21,280
Speaker 1: implied in the song. I'm gonna have to revisit that text.

526
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: I did say that without having read the lyrics of

527
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: I Apologize to the King, Good King when Charles last

528
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 1: looked down on the Feast of Steve Um. I honestly

529
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 1: have no idea what you're talking about. It it's a

530
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 1: nor moonlay round about deep and Chrispundi panzas, what what

531
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 1: is this? It's a Christmas song? Yeah? What Christmas is

532
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 1: a holiday typically celebrated at the end of the Gregorian

533
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: year and invented by the Nazis. Well, and that's a

534
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: totally different thing. To a side note, if we have time,

535
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 1: I don't want it's take up too much time. But

536
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: side note, Uh, the Nazi Party did have a group

537
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 1: of like an ideological group that was trying to supplant

538
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: Christian celebrations with a more what they felt was traditionally

539
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 1: Germanic based mythos and celebration. Oh, we've got to look

540
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: into that. I think we did in the past, right

541
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,760
Speaker 1: do we talked about that? And I get our videos

542
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 1: in our audio mixed up sometimes, so we'll have to

543
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: look at it, point being, and you can find it's

544
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:38,359
Speaker 1: an amazing story. But point being, um, yes, the this bell,

545
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: what the heck is it? What in good King Winceslaus

546
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: is going on here? Well, we have to look at

547
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: a guy called General Dr Hans Friedrick Carl Franz Kammeler Kammler,

548
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: who oversaw the V two rocket programs. He was born

549
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,280
Speaker 1: in nineteen o one. By the end of the Second

550
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 1: World War he was almost as powerful as s s

551
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: S Chief Heinrich Hemmler Uh and the Armaments Minister who

552
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 1: is Albert Spear, had access to the nazis most advanced technology,

553
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: including the V one and V two rockets, And these

554
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 1: things are some of the only those rockets are some

555
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,399
Speaker 1: of the only weapons that came out in enough time

556
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: to actually reign destruction. Right. The design didn't get rushed

557
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 1: into a point where it was non viable. But as

558
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 1: a lot of military historians tell you, it came down to,

559
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 1: you know, a matter of a couple of years or months.

560
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 1: If if this technology, if more of this technology rolled out,

561
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 1: the war could have ended differently. This was the guy

562
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:50,760
Speaker 1: in charge of a lot of that, this General Kambler. Yes, yes,

563
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: and in addition to designing and supervising secret weapons, because

564
00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: he was also an engineer, he also proved Dan designs

565
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 1: crematoriums in Auschwitz, and he was associated with some of

566
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,720
Speaker 1: the darkest, most disturbing things. So pretty broad skill set

567
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:18,439
Speaker 1: of evil. Yeah, right, he's a utility evil player. But his, uh,

568
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 1: but his the primary thing he was known for at

569
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: the time was supervising these secret weapon programs. And this,

570
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 1: this German facility, in this mind was a real thing. Right.

571
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 1: The bell, the bell? Right, the bell is the question

572
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: the maddening tin tin abulation of hearsay and rumor in

573
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: the telephone game we call history. Here's what with Kowski,

574
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: as told by Cook, says the bell appears to be. Says,

575
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: it's made out of a hard, heavy metal, approximately nine

576
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:56,240
Speaker 1: ft wide twelve to fifteen ft high, and it's similar

577
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 1: in shape to that of a large church bell or handbell.

578
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: So you know, it's got a it's got a bigger

579
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 1: lip or rim at the bottom, and then it tapers

580
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: up to a to the rounded, rounded top the nipple,

581
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 1: which is the technical term, uh, you know. And there

582
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: are various kinds of bells, so you know, they're like

583
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: Carillian bells, which are tubular. We won't. We don't want

584
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: to mislead you. Think about the Liberty bell. Think about

585
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: big old steel bell. Yeah, huge heavy contraptions. So it

586
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: looks like that. And according to Wakowski or Cook's account

587
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: of interview in Wakowski, this device had two counter rotating cylinders,

588
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: so one would be or they both be filled with

589
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 1: a mercury like substance which was violet in color. And

590
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: it was code named ZIOM five to five with that

591
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: zerom with an X, and it was stored in a small,

592
00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 1: thin uh flask that was about a meter high and

593
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 1: encased in lead. So they also said that there were

594
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: additional substances used in the experiments, referred to as light metal,

595
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 1: and they included things like thorium and beryllium peroxides. That's

596
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:22,240
Speaker 1: a quote. Wow, So reactive things, things that thank could

597
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: perhaps being nuclear powered if you use them in a

598
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 1: certain way. Yes, yeah, exactly, so, Wikowski says to Cook.

599
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 1: He says this bell, when they activated it, it also

600
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 1: needed a tremendous amount of power. He says that when

601
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: they activated it had what he called an effect zone

602
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: that extended fo si sixty um. And that seems like

603
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 1: an arbitrary measurement and feet. But that's because you know

604
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 1: this is this is in Europe and in every other

605
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: part of the world except for mean Mahr and the

606
00:39:56,360 --> 00:40:00,280
Speaker 1: US and I think Namibia. Everybody else uses the metrics system.

607
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 1: So we set a hundred fifty two. So what would

608
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: happen when this effect zone was, you know, in full

609
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: effect when it was charged up cooking with zero five

610
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 1: to five. Well, allegedly, if you're an animal and you

611
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: have cells of an animal, blood of an animal, uh,

612
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: it would form into crystals and uh like blood would

613
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 1: turn into gel and separate, while plants would just turn

614
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:34,240
Speaker 1: into this greasy I guess, a grease like substance, something

615
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:38,320
Speaker 1: that just looks nasty, kind of like control to um

616
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: when they would eat the green goo uh and they

617
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 1: turned into plants and then they would disintegrate into a

618
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 1: puddle of greenish snot goo. That's pretty good, yeah, or

619
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: like when people would have a control too, right yeah, yeah,

620
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 1: I actually have it on my computer now turned out. Yeah,

621
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: it's kind of like Indiana Jones when they look at

622
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 1: the Arc of the Covenant, right. Yeah. I think Troll

623
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: two is probably if we're aiming for accuracy and your

624
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 1: own references, and TROLT is probably better because they do

625
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: end up being goo at the end of the troll process.

626
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,800
Speaker 1: Here's one of the worst parts about testing a weapon

627
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 1: like this, when there's an effect zone and you have

628
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 1: to manipulate the stuff and turn it on and make adjustments.

629
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:26,240
Speaker 1: Well sometimes, and in this case, according to this gentleman,

630
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: the scientists become victims. There are five of the seven

631
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: original scientists allegedly died over the course of testing this thing.

632
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 1: And now we get to some of the architecture here.

633
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: So Wakowski states that there are the ruins near the winces.

634
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: Last mind, there are ruins of a concrete framework and

635
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 1: there's one thing called the hinge. This looks like a

636
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 1: frame with hooks attached that make people think it was

637
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 1: the spot to test a UM a vehicle of some

638
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: sort or some kind of engine, something that had propellant abilities.

639
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,919
Speaker 1: And it's called the hinge because it's reminiscent, well very

640
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 1: slightly reminiscent to Stonehenge, because it is a constructed and

641
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 1: obviously constructed thing of stone um but they're standing rocks

642
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 1: and it is right next to a former secret underground

643
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 1: research facility made by the Nazi parties made by a

644
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: state actor at the time, which was also made using

645
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 1: slave labor. I feel like we have to point that out.

646
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 1: If you are in the vicinity and you would like

647
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: to check this out and maybe send your old pals

648
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: conspiracy stuff, uh some photographic evidence while you, of course

649
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 1: avoid any possible field effects. You can find the You

650
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 1: can find the mine with the coordinates that I will

651
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 1: to you now. It's uh fifty degrees uh thirty seven

652
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:10,879
Speaker 1: forty three north and sixteen degrees east. Dare you have it?

653
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 1: So people who believe in this Nazi bell idea, I

654
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: believe that they see this structure as evidence that there

655
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 1: was actual experimentation with maybe some sort of anti gravity propulsion,

656
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:31,839
Speaker 1: maybe some sort of other advanced application of physics that

657
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 1: we perhaps don't yet understand. The anti gravity thing is

658
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: what I've heard most, or the zero point energy idea

659
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 1: that this thing, once you turned it on, it started

660
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: generating its own power. It took a lot of energy

661
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,760
Speaker 1: to turn it on, but once it's on, it's like, hey,

662
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 1: we're gonna run forever. Yeah, it's very It's like Mick

663
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:53,839
Speaker 1: Jagger and start me up. How However, for people who

664
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 1: think this is not true. That structure itself is just

665
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: another ruin. And they say, well, if it looks like anything,

666
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:07,720
Speaker 1: it looks like a cooling tower. Right. So the really

667
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 1: crazy part what what was it supposed to do? We've

668
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 1: mentioned it being like thought of as a weapon, We've

669
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: mentioned it being thought of as a vehicle, but what

670
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 1: what gives? What's the skinny? Can we cliff hang here

671
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 1: for a second? Sponsor brig Well, as a lot of

672
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 1: these reports are, we are pretty much entering the realm

673
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 1: of wild speculation. Uh, if I didn't have a shoulder injury,

674
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 1: I would be gesticulating wildly. Um So everything after the

675
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 1: original claim by Wikowski itself is completely unsupported. Um It

676
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 1: delves into pretty arbitrary or at least unproven territory. But

677
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 1: that has never stopped us on this show, so let

678
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 1: us sally forth. For example, in the book Hitler's Suppressed

679
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: and Still Secret Weapons, science and technology, author Henry Stevens

680
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: concludes that the violet mercury like substance described by Witkowski

681
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 1: could only be red mercury because normal mercury quote has

682
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 1: no fluid compounds according to conventional wisdom. So what what is?

683
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: What is red mercury. Ben, I'm so glad you asked

684
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 1: the stuff that's in the thermometers, right, Well, that's what

685
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: I thought about too initially. That's that that's that's mercury.

686
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 1: And the difference between those mercuries is the mercury and

687
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 1: your thermometers is real. It's a it's a real proven thing.

688
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 1: Red mercury, at least at this point is a hoax substance.

689
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: And you can tell in some ways because the author Stevens,

690
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 1: his source for this claim is, of course, as an

691
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: all said, conventional wisdom. Right. Uh, many many people have

692
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: had worse things happen because of their conventional wisdom. What's

693
00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: that old saying about common sense being the rarest thing there.

694
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 1: There was an interesting article that talks a little bit

695
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 1: about red mercury because for a while there's a little

696
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,720
Speaker 1: bit of intrigue in here. Okay, So for a while

697
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 1: there there was this idea that separatist groups or terrorist

698
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 1: groups or militias around the world would be able to

699
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 1: get their hands on a substance that they called red mercury.

700
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 1: And I thought it was very, very dangerous. And it

701
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 1: turned out that there's pretty convincing evidence whomever was making

702
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 1: this Red Mercury claim was a state intelligence agency, a

703
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 1: state actor, um, possibly when Uncle Sam's boys who was

704
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 1: was doing like a sting operation on these people. So

705
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 1: it had all these rumors about its putency, how dangerous

706
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: and rare it was, how it could create the equivalent

707
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 1: of a nuclear bomb blast. Yeah, because it's it's an explosive, right,

708
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 1: non non exploding explosive, So one that's safe to handle,

709
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 1: but then we'll explode when I guess activated. And I

710
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: love the idea of a non exploding explosive. It just

711
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 1: seems like a like a gag gift. Ude, I wanted

712
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 1: an explosive that actually explodes. We got you. Well, that's

713
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: like that's like a that's like a terrorist break. But

714
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:33,800
Speaker 1: in this case, it's it's almost the equivalent of a

715
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 1: nuclear explosion if you had enough of this stuff, at

716
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 1: least according to the legends, if we're real. But it's

717
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 1: almost like yellow Cake is something I remember hearing about

718
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 1: back in the day and not knowing at all what

719
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,720
Speaker 1: it was and just having crazy ideas because I hadn't

720
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: done any research on what yellow cake was. Um, I

721
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 1: feel like you hear something like Red Mercury. I don't know,

722
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 1: maybe the same thing applies. You think, oh, it must

723
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: be real. Yeah. That's part of the clever cleverness behind

724
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 1: those kinds of manipulative things is you have this idea

725
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 1: of of two things that you you understand conceptually. I

726
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 1: know what mercury is, I'm aware of the color red,

727
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: and you put them together and then it seems somehow

728
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 1: still understandable because they're not contradictory. Right, So it's it's

729
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 1: an understandable but distressing thing at this point. And we're

730
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 1: being completely fair at this point. There is no universally

731
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 1: accepted proof of something called red mercury. That is the

732
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 1: most fair we can be about it. But let us

733
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: not stop there, because Steven's further allegance that there is

734
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: a concave mirror. Um Steven, Okay, here, here's how he

735
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:52,800
Speaker 1: says it. He relays an anecdote from a guy who

736
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 1: when he was thirteen in nine in the nineteen sixties,

737
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 1: the scientists told him about a divide ice that had

738
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 1: a concave mirror on the top of it, and the

739
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: description of it matched in the author's opinion, or maybe

740
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 1: in the person's interviewings opinion, it matched the description of

741
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 1: the bell, and that this concave mirror provided the ability

742
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 1: to see quote images from the past during its operation.

743
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 1: And this line of thought led other authors to claim

744
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 1: the bell is some sort of time traveling technology or

745
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 1: time viewing device, kind of like the Palanteer and Lord

746
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:34,320
Speaker 1: of the Rings, you know, the Deadly Crystal Ball. I'm

747
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: getting images of Contact, the movie Contact, where there's this

748
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 1: device that spins really fast, and then you can drop

749
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 1: something through it, and it can time travel through time,

750
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 1: I guess, or in some way I see yeah, because

751
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:50,359
Speaker 1: they say only eight minutes past. Yeah. Well yeah, so

752
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 1: I'm imagining the bell being these two spinning things and

753
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 1: then maybe you can even drop something through it, or

754
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: maybe the person inside of it is time traveling if

755
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 1: you can climb in it. Well, I'm immensely glad that

756
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 1: you mentioned UFOs, matt because or aliens or extraterrestrials, because

757
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 1: if you happen to check out things on the Discovery

758
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 1: Network or History Channel there uh infamous love to hate It,

759
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 1: Hate to Love it? Uh program Ancient Aliens, You'll see

760
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:26,839
Speaker 1: that the Nazi Bell is associated with UFOs in those things,

761
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 1: and we'll we'll get to that in just a second

762
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 1: and it all really goes back to the idea of

763
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: where this thing ended up. Right, So we've got Kamler

764
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 1: disappears after the war. People say he commits suicide and

765
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 1: that's the official story. Well, what really happened is he

766
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: disappeared and the world's going to heck in a handbasket

767
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: for Germany, so they have to get rid of this technology, right,

768
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,800
Speaker 1: And obviously no one found a bell and went public

769
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 1: with it. So according to people who believe in its existence,

770
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 1: this either ended up in South America. And that's related

771
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 1: to a lot of other fringe theories, uh, and some

772
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 1: fringe facts that we are we are already aware of.

773
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 1: You probably have heard this a million times if you

774
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: check out our if you enjoy our show, And that

775
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:17,240
Speaker 1: is the idea of Nazis escaping World War two through

776
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 1: the Vatican at times Vatican sponsored ratlines and living out

777
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 1: and in some isolated cases, living their entire natural lives

778
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:35,319
Speaker 1: out um punishment free in areas of South America. So

779
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 1: people believe that the bell was a real thing that

780
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 1: hasn't been found. I think that Kamler brought it with

781
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 1: him or somehow sent it to South America where it resides.

782
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 1: Just imagine folks in the jungle today, stay away from

783
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 1: bells in the woods, regardless of what size they are.

784
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 1: Just in general, if it's not your bell, don't touch it.

785
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 1: Or it ended up somewhere else. What if it ended

786
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 1: up in Kentucky, y'all, Yes, Kentucky, the logical logical destination.

787
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:11,919
Speaker 1: There's this thing that we may have touched on before year.

788
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 1: I know we've touched on it in our video series

789
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 1: the Kecksburg Incidents. This is a UFO and unidentified flying

790
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 1: object that came down in nineteen sixty on December nine.

791
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:26,760
Speaker 1: It was originally thought to be a meteorite or called

792
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 1: a meteor right, that's what it was thought to be. Well,

793
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:33,919
Speaker 1: current researchers just believed that this was a g E

794
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:38,240
Speaker 1: Mark two that's General Electric reentry vehicle that was launched

795
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 1: by the Air Force as a spy satellite, which very

796
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 1: plausible in my opinion. Unfortunately, this one just fell out

797
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 1: of orbit and then landed in Kentucky as it does. Yeah,

798
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 1: but originally, of course the Kentucky gets all the meteors

799
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 1: and fallen satellites. But there's a lot of hubble hubble

800
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,320
Speaker 1: balu hubbal lou I don't know how to say, is

801
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 1: this a hubble joke. There's a hullabaloo hubble blue, hubble blue,

802
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 1: hubble balue, more like hillbilly blue. But of course there's

803
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 1: a lot of hullabaloo at the time when this when

804
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:16,840
Speaker 1: the Kexperg incident occurred, because this thing was was bright

805
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:20,320
Speaker 1: and it appeared to enter the atmosphere and then crash somewhere,

806
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 1: and people are like, oh man, it's a UFO, you

807
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 1: guys well, and technically it is. Yeah, it was a

808
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: flying saucer that crashed Holmes right, the homes as they

809
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 1: called each other. But be that as it may, pun

810
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 1: making prodigies though we may be u there is a

811
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 1: there is an unfunny and inescapable truth here, which is,

812
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 1: of course, the government most likely lied to these people.

813
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:51,320
Speaker 1: The Kexberg incident is different because civilians got there first,

814
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 1: and we're able to look at this in detail. But imagine,

815
00:53:56,440 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 1: if you're your state power, right, you how have to

816
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:04,800
Speaker 1: control what your enemies would see or what other people

817
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 1: would see. Right, So having a spy satellite fall first off,

818
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:15,240
Speaker 1: very fortunate for it to fall in the contiguous US. Uh.

819
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 1: But you you have to get that out because you

820
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 1: don't want other people talking about something that you know

821
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,880
Speaker 1: your rivals in the U S, SRS or what have

822
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 1: you will immediately recognize when they hear it described. So,

823
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,840
Speaker 1: as far as we know now, it was probably the

824
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 1: satellite that Matt described. But at the time, you can't

825
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:40,280
Speaker 1: blame people for thinking this is Tunguska event all over again,

826
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 1: or this is a piece of alien technology, because who

827
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 1: at that time would have seen a satellite up close.

828
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,320
Speaker 1: And by the way, guys, we have an entire audio

829
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 1: episode on the Kecksburg incident if you're interested and you

830
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 1: want to learn more about it. We've described everything that

831
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 1: happened in more detail. Yeah, check it out. Go there

832
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 1: now when you're done with this, But be kind. Yes,

833
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:09,800
Speaker 1: it was an earlier so it was awesome. This is

834
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 1: an awesome This is an awesome thing. This this idea

835
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 1: that there could be technology that's beyond what we even

836
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 1: possessed today in TV. And of course this is just

837
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 1: my opinion, and I don't know why you guys feel

838
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 1: about this, but I'm pretty convinced. I have certitude that

839
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 1: the technology that militaries have is at the minimum several

840
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 1: years in vance of the civilian stuff. Right. I think

841
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 1: it's compounded over time too. We never really knew the

842
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 1: top speed of the the yeah, right, until until it

843
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 1: was in museums, you know it was retired, or about

844
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 1: how it expanded its metal and stuff. It was designed

845
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 1: so it could expand because it got so hot and

846
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:00,080
Speaker 1: went so fast. I just want a million tear a

847
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 1: bite thumb drive. When can I have that? I guess

848
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 1: when you start working for DARPA. Man, it's a million terabytes.

849
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 1: That's that's a name for that, right? Is that a

850
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 1: that's a lot hep heppa byte, a pepper bite. I

851
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:14,359
Speaker 1: think they call it king size bagel bite. Someone right

852
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 1: to us conspiracy and how stuff works, and let us

853
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 1: know what a million terabyte drive would be. All right, man,

854
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:23,399
Speaker 1: we'll get back on track. I apologize, No, I want

855
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 1: to know. Um. So we we have all these questions.

856
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,400
Speaker 1: This this story leaves us with more questions. Some of

857
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 1: them are psychological, some of them are material, and some

858
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 1: of them are a little bit more philosophical. So it's

859
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 1: true that we will never have complete answers to many

860
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 1: questions surrounding World War Two. If you believe that a

861
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 1: lot of people disappeared in the Vietnam War first, you

862
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 1: are correct, but World War two had probably even more

863
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:55,359
Speaker 1: people just wiped off the face, even more soldiers went missing. Right.

864
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 1: We know, for example, that this the thing that we

865
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 1: all grew up being taught with Hitler's skull by in

866
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 1: possession of the Soviet Party. I believe was not in

867
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:09,799
Speaker 1: fact his skull. No, it was a female. But there

868
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 1: was a jaw, part of a jaw that was found

869
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 1: that was supposedly Hitler's that was identified by people at

870
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 1: the time, at least according to Skeptoid, which is what

871
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 1: I was reading. And this feeds into, you know, this

872
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 1: feeds into the propagation of theories of Hitler escaping and

873
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 1: living to be somewhere else, uh, living his natural life

874
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 1: out somewhere else, maybe South America. But if we can't

875
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:37,919
Speaker 1: arrive immediately a good answers, we can ask increasingly well

876
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 1: informed questions. So the first question about this particular device

877
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 1: that sounds straight out of science fiction, right, uses either

878
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 1: an ancient and ancient power source descended from real in

879
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 1: the flying machines right, that appear in the Bajagavad Gita

880
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 1: and are rediscovered in in some sort of occult field

881
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 1: trip on the SIA Nazi Party um or some space

882
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 1: age thing that never been built on Earth before. If

883
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 1: either way, if it's so advanced, here's question number one,

884
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 1: why did the ACCESS lose the war? Yeah, if they

885
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 1: had UFOs, if if there were underground basis, if there

886
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 1: was revolutionary technology, then why did they lose the war? Well,

887
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 1: first of all, it melted all the scientists, so they

888
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 1: couldn't finish the thing. Five out of seven five well

889
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 1: probably maybe the good ones. The last two were like this,

890
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 1: associate scientists, it was like this first day. Yeah, that's

891
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, that's that's I think that's an answer.

892
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 1: Assuming the s S officer really did mention some sort

893
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 1: of device like the bell and an interrogation, how much

894
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 1: could he've actually known or understood. Sure, he was a

895
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 1: notoriously bad person and an effective um effective at what

896
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 1: he did in the military, but nothing he did had

897
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 1: a technical or scientific role in his entire career. So

898
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 1: it's possibly that you could have seen something and been mistaken.

899
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:08,919
Speaker 1: It's possible that he could have never mentioned it. Yep,

900
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 1: it's possible there could have been some miscommunication and then Kammeler,

901
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 1: the guys in charge of the two rockets. In this case,

902
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 1: we do have an answer. Officially committed suicide at the

903
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 1: end of the war, Yet growing evidence indicates that the

904
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 1: US faked his death, gave him a brand new identity

905
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 1: in America, secretly using his knowledge of weaponry to advance

906
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 1: their own studies, which means that he was never prosecuted.

907
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 1: And this is never prosecuted in a country that will

908
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 1: lock people up for life for non violent drug offenses,

909
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 1: right in a country that has three strike offenses, to

910
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 1: the point where you know, children can be locked up

911
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 1: for the better part of their natural life. So whatever

912
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 1: happened to that giant underground complex, well, it remains in

913
00:59:56,240 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 1: ruins today, unfinished, just kinda hanging out sitting there. And

914
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 1: get this, it's only one of the just multiple underground

915
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 1: storage facilities that the Nazis built. As thought there's some

916
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 1: magic alien crystals buried in that mess somewhere. Well, I okay,

917
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 1: it's possible that there's undiscovered stuff like that out there.

918
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 1: It's possible, like tiny, itty, tiny bit possible. But it's

919
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 1: been a long time, right, it's been decades of there

920
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 1: are governments that would have an interest in anything to

921
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:31,920
Speaker 1: any kind of technology or magic that may exist out

922
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 1: there and you'd think that they would go through it,

923
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 1: but maybe not. And we do know that camera was

924
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 1: in charge of you know, eight or nine of these things.

925
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 1: They were dug out pretty extensively because it was one

926
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 1: of the only ways to protect uh secret, this sort

927
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 1: of secret experimental research from Allied bombers. Because it's not

928
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 1: like documents they could have shredded, you know, like when

929
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 1: the when when the jig was up and the Nazis

930
01:00:56,280 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 1: were being toppled and everyone was coming in rans sacking

931
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 1: their facilities, their bunkers, what have you. It would be

932
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 1: pretty difficult to cover their tracks on something this large. Yeah,

933
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 1: it's true, I mean, yeah, but it could be like

934
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:15,600
Speaker 1: the tombs like King Tut's tombs are other tombs that

935
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 1: are yet to be discovered that just maybe we haven't

936
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 1: used the light our technology on it yet in these areas,

937
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 1: you know, to find the secret bunker parts inside the

938
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 1: secret bunker. You're all about that light are I mean,

939
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 1: it's one of the coolest technologies that exists right now,

940
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 1: I think. And so there we are concluding for now

941
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 1: our story of the Nazi Belt. We looked into this

942
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:46,440
Speaker 1: extensively and without saying that it is without saying that

943
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 1: it's like our purposeful hoax or anything. The best we

944
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 1: can say is that we found evidence of very very

945
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 1: strange things like these underground facilities, right, and we know

946
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 1: that we know that had the timing worked out differently,

947
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 1: the technological advances that UH that Germany was researching at

948
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 1: the time could well have changed the tide of war,

949
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 1: including their research into nuclear weapons UH nuclear warheads specifically,

950
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 1: and they were much closer than a lot of a

951
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 1: lot of people might imagine. But we couldn't find anything

952
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:24,440
Speaker 1: about the Nazi Bell before the year two thousand. If

953
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 1: you want to be you know, if you if you

954
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 1: want to entirely accept the claims made in the book,

955
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 1: we would like to hear what you think about the

956
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 1: Nazi Bell. If you'd like to learn more about this

957
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 1: from maybe a more conspiratorial angle, check out The Brotherhood

958
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 1: of the Bell, check out the other two books we

959
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 1: mentioned here, and most importantly, if you have if you

960
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 1: have some ideas or some insight that we haven't heard yet,

961
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 1: we'd love to hear from you. And speaking of listeners,

962
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 1: just like you, it's time for shot at Corners. Our

963
01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 1: first shout out today comes from Alex h Alex says,

964
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 1: I'm listening to your Grimoire episode now, and I thought

965
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:09,040
Speaker 1: I would send you something of insider perspective. Something of

966
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 1: an insider's perspective, he says. Um, I had Narnia and

967
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 1: Middle Earth as my bedtime stories from a young age.

968
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 1: Once I could read, I devoured the mythology and folklore

969
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 1: sections of my local library. I was raised Catholic, but

970
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 1: after my mother became very ill in my teenage years,

971
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:27,480
Speaker 1: I had a crisis of faith and began to doubt

972
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:29,880
Speaker 1: what I had been told. When I got to college,

973
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 1: I discovered weed, LSD and mushrooms. As you do, you know,

974
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 1: whatever whatever tickles your third eye, um, and it really

975
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 1: altered what I believed was possible. I read Grant Morrison's

976
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 1: comic book series The Invisibles, huge favorite of the show

977
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 1: around the same time, and was enthralled by its wild, experimental,

978
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 1: psycho sexual, spiritual, spy conspiracy story. That is a mouthful, Um,

979
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 1: try as I might, and I really it. After that,

980
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 1: I couldn't just put the genie back in the bottle.

981
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 1: So I tried Buddhism for a while, and yoga and

982
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 1: the whole famelieu that comes with that, but it never

983
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 1: completely squared with my worldview. Western occultism is the only

984
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 1: thing that has. Ultimately, what it comes down to is

985
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 1: the fact that belief is a choice, a belief in,

986
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:22,480
Speaker 1: and the practice of magic works for me. It is anecdotal,

987
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:25,640
Speaker 1: much of it is psychological, and obviously it stands against

988
01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 1: the dominant paradigm of modern society. But the simple fact

989
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 1: is when I am practicing, I feel happy and engaged

990
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 1: with the world in a way that I do not

991
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:37,560
Speaker 1: under normal circumstances. Severe depression has been a condition of

992
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:40,680
Speaker 1: my existence for much of my life. Um, and if

993
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 1: the fix for that is something most people would consider crazy,

994
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:46,240
Speaker 1: so be it. It's worth it to live in an

995
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 1: enchanted world. It's a beautiful sentiment. Um. Anyway, those are

996
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 1: my two cents. Love the podcast, you have the great work.

997
01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more. Um. I'm not a religious person myself.

998
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 1: I begrudge no one that practices religion if they do

999
01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 1: so respectfully of others, and it is thing that works

1000
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 1: for them and keeps them on a path they find

1001
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:09,480
Speaker 1: to be you know, successful, uh, mentally and spiritually. It

1002
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 1: doesn't work for me, but I see plenty of people

1003
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 1: in my life that use religion as a tool to

1004
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 1: kind of guide their lives in an ordered way, and

1005
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:22,520
Speaker 1: this is no different in my opinion. Thanks so much

1006
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 1: for writing in like h that is a beautiful cinnamon.

1007
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 1: I think we all agree here. Yeah, and we definitely

1008
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 1: share your from childhood interest in the uh Folklore and

1009
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:38,960
Speaker 1: Mythology section at the library. So who's next? Our next

1010
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 1: message comes from Kelsey says, Hey, guys, I'm a new

1011
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:45,120
Speaker 1: listener and I've been going back through the archive and

1012
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 1: catching up on old episodes. I got to the cannibalism one,

1013
01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:53,040
Speaker 1: and y'all said, you're wondering what your listeners were doing

1014
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 1: while they were listening about such a dark subject. Well,

1015
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 1: I'm an electrical engineer student doing research with semiconductors and

1016
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 1: like listening to your podcasts while I catalog samples, read papers,

1017
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 1: do homework, etcetera. Today, while I was cataloging and listening,

1018
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 1: I got a surprise phone interview for a full time

1019
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:14,919
Speaker 1: position after I graduate. Congratulations Kelsey, that is a huge

1020
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:19,080
Speaker 1: accomplishment and such good news. It went well. But it's

1021
01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 1: hard to talk about green technology when you just heard

1022
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:26,200
Speaker 1: about someone's testicles being fed to them. Oh, cannibalism. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1023
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:34,720
Speaker 1: sorry that apron it was uh sorry, Kelsey, but you

1024
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:37,160
Speaker 1: know we we are very glad that you got that

1025
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 1: good news. Kelsey says, love the podcast PS. I'll let

1026
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 1: you know if I get it. Well, we certainly hope

1027
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 1: you do. I Kelsey, you first off, we're sending you

1028
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 1: good vibes, unanimously and immensely and profoundly sending good vibes.

1029
01:06:55,680 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 1: I gotta say your your comments. Your comment regarding testicles

1030
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 1: and cannibalism reminds me. I do a live show on

1031
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:09,120
Speaker 1: Facebook called snack Stuff where we try strange and weird

1032
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:12,600
Speaker 1: snacks from around the world. You could check it out

1033
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:16,560
Speaker 1: Tuesday's three pm Eastern Standard time every couple of weeks.

1034
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:18,560
Speaker 1: And we also have a food show that's come out,

1035
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:20,960
Speaker 1: which I can say is good because I'm not part

1036
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:23,680
Speaker 1: of it. It's called food Stuff. It's about the science

1037
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 1: and culture of everything wonderful, weird, delicious, and gusta tory.

1038
01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:33,520
Speaker 1: But neither of those shows have covered cannibalism yet. Right

1039
01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:37,080
Speaker 1: give a time, they'll run into topics. Have you eaten

1040
01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:43,480
Speaker 1: testicles yet? On Snacks Stuff? I have not. Volunteers. Oh,

1041
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:45,840
Speaker 1: and point of order, lest we not forget. The month

1042
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:49,600
Speaker 1: of March is Tripod month. That's with it. Why try

1043
01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 1: a pod cast? That's the right hashtag tripod? Hashtag that

1044
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:56,880
Speaker 1: try it, then hashtag it. Use the hashtag tripod when

1045
01:07:56,960 --> 01:08:01,160
Speaker 1: you're tweeting out your favorite podcast recommendations for your friends.

1046
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:04,200
Speaker 1: Whoever and so um today, I've got one. I'm a

1047
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:06,720
Speaker 1: big fan of the podcast How Did This Get Made?

1048
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 1: With Paul Sheer and Jason man Zukas from the League,

1049
01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:16,640
Speaker 1: and also Paul's hilarious wife June Diane Riffael, where they

1050
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 1: basically just riff and rip on crappy movies. Yeah, they

1051
01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:23,120
Speaker 1: all get together. They'll watch it separately or together and

1052
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:25,880
Speaker 1: then just talk about it and it is hilarious. They're

1053
01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:30,559
Speaker 1: part of the ear Wolf group of podcasts and some

1054
01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:32,360
Speaker 1: of my favorite if I ever go on a trip,

1055
01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:35,679
Speaker 1: I've got that show in comedy Bang Bang and several

1056
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:38,840
Speaker 1: others of theirs just rocking in my car. I can't

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Speaker 1: recommend it highly enough. Yeah, for sure, So get out

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Speaker 1: there and try a pod They did Hackers not long ago.

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Speaker 1: Hackers is the best. That's yeah, that's the one where

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Speaker 1: June doesn't understand what the Little BB eight Toys mission

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Speaker 1: is She's like, what's its mission? And everyone just cracks

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Speaker 1: up because it's like, what's its mission? It's wonderful. Nobody knows.

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Speaker 1: You never know what's going to happen in the meantime.

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