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Speaker 1: Draft No officially over. This is draft season. My name

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Speaker 1: is John schmil joined by Tony Pauline talking NFL Draft

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Speaker 1: prospects with you. It's all brought to you by Tommy

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Speaker 1: the New York Football Giant. Just remember this is not

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Speaker 1: a Giants podcast, folks. Despite the background, then my little

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Speaker 1: quarters zip here. This is an NFL Draft podcast. We

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Speaker 1: talk everything NFL Draft with no focus on any particular team,

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Speaker 1: Just trying to get everybody ready to go with the

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Speaker 1: NFL Draft. Now, Tony, oh boy, we're getting there, only

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Speaker 1: about four months away. And of course we have a

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Speaker 1: shrine ball and senior ball coming in January. We have

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Speaker 1: the Combine coming in February. It should be a lot

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Speaker 1: of fun. As you move forward. Here is things start

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Speaker 1: to pick up in this draft class and what it's

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Speaker 1: Andy Williams once aptly sang, it's the most wonderful time

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Speaker 1: of the year, right, I mean, ball season is great.

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Speaker 1: It you can sit back while you're you're enjoying your holiday,

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Speaker 1: whatever holiday you may celebrate, and they'll be four college

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Speaker 1: games on your TV from noon till eleven twelve o'clock

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Speaker 1: at night. And uh, you know we're coming to the

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Speaker 1: end of the NFL season. You got the college football

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Speaker 1: playoffs coming this weekend. Uh, and it is the most

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Speaker 1: and then we go into like you said, the Shrine,

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Speaker 1: the Senior and everything else. Like Andy Williams said, it's

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Speaker 1: the most wonderful time of the year. It is. Things

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Speaker 1: are happening. There's a lot of football to watch. Let's

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Speaker 1: get into a Tony Big Show today. We're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: about a few more early entrance into the draft under

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Speaker 1: classmen that have made their declarations. More will come after

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Speaker 1: some of these bowl games in the college football playoffs obviously,

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Speaker 1: then we'll go through some of these bowl games and

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Speaker 1: we'll talk about some of the prospects Tony has his

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Speaker 1: And three boy, it goes fast. So early entrance here,

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Speaker 1: Tony a couple of guys that we didn't touch on

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Speaker 1: on him in the first round. For me, this feels

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Speaker 1: I think Malik Willis is much further ahead than Anthony Richardson.

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Speaker 1: Penny Sewell's younger brother, Noah Sewell, the linebacker Tony, what

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Speaker 1: Let's head over now to be Jean Robinson. Tony the

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Speaker 1: probably not gonna be in this game. Beyonte Banks the cornerback,

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Speaker 1: who's gonna be a day to pick where team Jarrett

430
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Speaker 1: the receiver. We've talked about him before, in the show

431
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Speaker 1: is a Day three selection. You know a lot of

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Speaker 1: decent players who probably won't be on the field as

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Speaker 1: far as North Carolina is concerned. They've got two linebackers

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Speaker 1: I like. Last show. I talked about Peyton Wilson, the

435
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Speaker 1: linebacker who is a second day player but has got

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Speaker 1: free agent type of medicals because he's had a shoulder injuries.

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Speaker 1: And Isaiah Moore, who was the guy who can play inside,

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Speaker 1: he could play outside. He's not gonna wow anybody with

439
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Speaker 1: his great athleticism, but all he does is make positive

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Speaker 1: plays on the ball. All right, let's jump to Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: u c l A. Here, Tony. We talked about the

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Speaker 1: strength of this running back class. One of them is

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Speaker 1: the u c l A running back Zack Arbe and

444
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Speaker 1: all he does he former Michigan player transferred to u

445
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Speaker 1: c l A two years ago. And he's a guy.

446
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Speaker 1: You know, if you're talking about a feature runner in

447
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Speaker 1: the classical sense, that's what Charbonnet is. He's a big

448
00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:22,320
Speaker 1: downhill grinder. He's got good short area quickness. He shows

449
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Speaker 1: the ability to make defenders missing in the uh in

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Speaker 1: a small area. But he's someone who will not only

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Speaker 1: pick up a lot of yards off initial contact. He

452
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Speaker 1: will push the pile, he will carry the pile, and

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Speaker 1: he is someone who really is a beast at the position.

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Speaker 1: When you look at Pittsburgh, one guy who's not playing

455
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Speaker 1: is Kalijah Cancy, who may enter the draft. People have

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Speaker 1: talked to have mentioned him to me as a poor

457
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Speaker 1: man's Aaron Donald. He's more of a smaller three technique

458
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Speaker 1: type of guy that makes a lot of plays on

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Speaker 1: the ball. They've got a real good pass rusher. The

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Speaker 1: last name is bald Nato, number eight seven, very explosive,

461
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Speaker 1: makes a lot of plays behind the line, scream it.

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Speaker 1: It will be interesting to see how he holds up

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Speaker 1: against the run when he goes up against Charbonne. Because

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Speaker 1: he's more of a pass rusher than a run defender.

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Speaker 1: Charbonne is gonna really pose a terrific challenge for him.

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Speaker 1: All Right, let's go to Notre Dame in South Carolina here, Tony.

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame is gonna be missing some of their guys

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Speaker 1: that are coming out, but there are some players in

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Speaker 1: this game to keep an eye on. Yeah. So with

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Speaker 1: South Carolina, I mean the big one being camp Smith,

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Speaker 1: who uh entered the decided he's going to end of

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Speaker 1: the drafting and camp Smith is very likely going to be,

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Speaker 1: you know, first if he's not a first round pick,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna be a top forty section. He could be

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Speaker 1: an early first round selection depending on how he works out.

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Speaker 1: You know. As far as the rest of the guys

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Speaker 1: from South Carolina, Josh Van who's a real good receiver,

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Speaker 1: return specialist. It'll be interesting to see Spencer Rattler. I mean,

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Speaker 1: which Spencer Rattler? Are we going to get? The quarterback

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Speaker 1: from South Carolina who transferred over from Oklahoma. You know,

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Speaker 1: at times he looks like a world lead. At times

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Speaker 1: he looks like an a beater. You just don't know

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Speaker 1: what you're gonna get, uh with Spencer Ratler, he's got

484
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Speaker 1: he's got amazing ability. Just a matter of him playing consistently,

485
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Speaker 1: not you Dame Jared Patterson has been a stalwart there.

486
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Speaker 1: He's finally he's finishing out his college career. He's a

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Speaker 1: guy who could play center guard, middle round choice who

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Speaker 1: I think in the power gaps sort of system in

489
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Speaker 1: the NFL could be very productive. And then there's Randon Joseph,

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Speaker 1: the big safety transfer from Northwestern, who is he's got

491
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Speaker 1: good range, he's an imposing safety. He's intimidating safety. He

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Speaker 1: makes a lot of players on the ball. Spencer Rattler

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Speaker 1: better make sure he keeps an eye number sixteen when

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Speaker 1: he puts that ball up in the air. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's go to Tennessee Clemson, Tony. This is one of

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Speaker 1: the premier games in terms of teams that finished with,

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Speaker 1: you know, really good records, but just outside the college

498
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Speaker 1: football playoffs. Unfortunately, a lot of these guys are not

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Speaker 1: gonna play in this game, guys that we talked about

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Speaker 1: early entrance, especially Clemson up front. Um, but we are

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Speaker 1: gonna see a couple of guys like Tennessee right tackle

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Speaker 1: Darnell Wright, who's going to the Senior Bowl. He's gonna

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Speaker 1: play in this game. And Clemson defensive and kJ Henry

504
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Speaker 1: is gonna play in this game too, and they might

505
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Speaker 1: be up against each other. Yeah, And I haven't heard

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Speaker 1: anything about Brian Breeze. I'm told he's gonna enter the draft,

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Speaker 1: but I you know, unless I miss something, I haven't

508
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Speaker 1: heard that he's not gonna play. You know, they also

509
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Speaker 1: have another good defensive tackle, but it's Tylie Davis, who, uh,

510
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Speaker 1: smaller guy but very explosive more of that three technique

511
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Speaker 1: lineman number thirteen. He makes a lot of plays behind

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Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. You mentioned kJ Henry uh defense offensively.

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Speaker 1: Keep an eye on the question I was asked before

514
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Speaker 1: was about guards in the upcoming draft. Keep an eye

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Speaker 1: on Clemson left. Clemson's left tackle Georgian McFadden. Shorter guy,

516
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Speaker 1: very good, moves well around the field, moves well on

517
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Speaker 1: his feet. I project him the guard because he's only

518
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Speaker 1: about six ft three. I think he's a potential Day

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Speaker 1: two pick. I mean after Darnell. Darnell right for Tennessee

520
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Speaker 1: kind of falls off the cliff because I don't know

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Speaker 1: if Tillman's playing Jalen High, it's not playing Hendon. Hooker's hurt.

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Speaker 1: So you're right, I mean on paper back in September.

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Speaker 1: Let's looks like a great game now with everybody on

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Speaker 1: the sidelines. You just don't know. Hey, Giant fans, if

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Speaker 1: you're listening to this podcast, you want to go to

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Speaker 1: If you're a Giants fan listening to this, or but

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Speaker 1: if you want to go check out a gaming you're

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Speaker 1: Jeff Ferar and Eagle fan in the area, you want

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Speaker 1: game for the Giants coming up this Sunday. Go check

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Speaker 1: it out, all right, Tony, let's keep going down our

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Speaker 1: list here Iowa Kentucky. You're getting Iowa linebacker book As

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Speaker 1: Award winner Jack Campbell in this game. Well, I would

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Speaker 1: like to know from you how he you know, projects

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Speaker 1: to the to the NFL here and then Kentucky has

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Speaker 1: some good prospects too. Yeah, I mean, I think Campbell's

542
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Speaker 1: a day to pick. He's a guy who's got scheme versatility.

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Speaker 1: He's got position versatility. You can play him on the outside,

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Speaker 1: you can play him on the inside. He's got sized,

545
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Speaker 1: he's got speed, he's good moving in reverse. You can

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Speaker 1: put him in coverage over a big tight end. You

547
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Speaker 1: can use him up the field. I mean Campbell is

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Speaker 1: at times he's shown he's shown a lot of first

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Speaker 1: round ability. Uh, I don't think i Will had the

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Speaker 1: season that they expected this year. I think that Campbell's

551
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Speaker 1: gonna test off the charts. I do believe he's gonna

552
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Speaker 1: go somewhere early in round two, and I think teams

553
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Speaker 1: are gonna fall in love with him because of that

554
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Speaker 1: skiing versatility, because of that position versatility in the sense

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Speaker 1: that you can line him up in a number of

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Speaker 1: linebacker positions. Iowa again has another outstanding tight end and

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Speaker 1: Sam Laporta, who has been a little bit injured. I'm

558
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Speaker 1: told he's likely going to play in this game. But

559
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Speaker 1: but he's one of those down the field pass catchers,

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Speaker 1: you know, a tight end that plays the position like

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Speaker 1: he's a receiver, but he's also a tough guy, gets

562
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Speaker 1: up in a crowd, will come away with the difficult catch.

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Speaker 1: Has been very productive as far as uh concern, you know,

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Speaker 1: kind of the the luster was taken off that Will Levis.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's playing in this game. Uh, he's

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Speaker 1: He's gonna enter the draft. It's gonna be an interesting

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Speaker 1: story with Will Levis. We talked before about the Shrine

568
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Speaker 1: Game and the Senior Bowl. I think that if Will

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Speaker 1: Levis goes to the Shrine or Senior and has a

570
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Speaker 1: knockout week, He's gonna be a first round pick. But

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Speaker 1: you know, as you mentioned in one of the first shows,

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Speaker 1: Will Levice looks one of like one of those guys

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Speaker 1: who is a big athlete that they said, well let

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Speaker 1: him play quarterback. He shows some incredible talent at times

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Speaker 1: and then there are other downs in other situations where

576
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Speaker 1: you're scratching your head and you're saying, what's going on here?

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Speaker 1: So Levin levis like Anthony Richardson. He's more polished than

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Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson, but he still needs a lot of work

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Speaker 1: on his game. Yeah, he's a big guy, right, He's

580
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Speaker 1: he's six five, he's I think to thirty or two forty,

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Speaker 1: can run over mobile. He's got a big arm. But

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Speaker 1: does he have that if factor as a quarterback playing

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Speaker 1: the position? I think is the question? Right? And to

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Speaker 1: me he doesn't. I mean, you know, he strikes fear

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Speaker 1: in teams because of his physical abilities, but the consistency

586
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Speaker 1: isn't there, The consistent pass placement isn't there yet. My

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Speaker 1: guest is that a constant debate We're gonna have Tony

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Speaker 1: once we get through this process. Here is who's gonna

589
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Speaker 1: get taken first? Levers or Stroud. I imagine that's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a conversation that we're gonna be having a lot of.

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Speaker 1: And I think, like we had this conversation about Matt

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Speaker 1: Jones a couple of years ago, Bill Levis goes to

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Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl or even the Shrine Game, because they're

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Speaker 1: gonna be NFL teams coaching the Shrine Game and has

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Speaker 1: repractices like Matt Jones did at the Senior Bowl two

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Speaker 1: years ago. You know it will be a conversation, but

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Speaker 1: it won't be an argument because Will Levis can stamp

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Speaker 1: himself as the second quarterback in this draft. But be

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Speaker 1: fun to watch. Alright, Alabama Kansas State Tony Sugar Bowl

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Speaker 1: another you know, really dynamic game. And the good news

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Speaker 1: about this a lot of these Alabama guys are gonna play.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna see Bryce Young, We're gonna see Will Anderson

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Speaker 1: in this game. I know there's a couple of guys

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Speaker 1: from Kansas State you really like. And I don't think

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Speaker 1: let's start here. I don't think we really talked much

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Speaker 1: about Will Anderson since early in our in our season here, uh,

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Speaker 1: and I know you said you you were a little disappointing.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't quite as productive early. Where are you on

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Speaker 1: Will Anderson right now? Is he still a top three,

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Speaker 1: top five pick? Where do you think he's gonna land? Well,

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Speaker 1: let me start. I wasn't disappointed. It's just that he

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Speaker 1: had such an incredible season in two thousand one. And

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Speaker 1: if you remember, it wasn't just talk about Will Anderson

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Speaker 1: being the first pick of the draft when we entered,

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Speaker 1: when the season started in September, it was Will Anderson

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Speaker 1: winning the Heisman Trophy or Will Anderson the Heisman Trophy candidate.

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Speaker 1: He had a really good year. When you look at

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Speaker 1: the numbers, it just wasn't as dominant as his you know,

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Speaker 1: world record year in two thousand twenty one. So but

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Speaker 1: when you look at it, I mean he's still a big,

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Speaker 1: explosive player, who can come out of a three point stands,

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Speaker 1: who could stand over tackle, who can rush the passer,

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Speaker 1: who can change direction and get out to the flanks

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Speaker 1: and make plays in backside pursuit. I mean, you look

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Speaker 1: at this Alabama defense, Henry totoa demark of the linebacker,

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Speaker 1: Ryan Branch, the safety, Uh Jordan's battless safety. I mean

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Speaker 1: it's loaded. And then of course you got you know,

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Speaker 1: right young on the other side of the ball. And

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Speaker 1: one matchup. You what we're gonna talk about Kansas State.

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Speaker 1: Kansas State has a quarterback by the name of Julius

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Speaker 1: Grent six to two, five pounds, runs in the four fours,

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Speaker 1: has all the measurables that teams want in a cornerback.

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Speaker 1: In the early part of the draft, early part being

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Speaker 1: the initial sixty picks, uh Brent showed a lot of

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Speaker 1: improvement in his game this year. Entered the season created

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Speaker 1: as a seventh round pick. Now he is a Day

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Speaker 1: two pick. Did have his problems in that Big Twelve

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Speaker 1: the title game, got beat a couple of times, got

639
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Speaker 1: a call for a pass interference. So keep an eye on,

640
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 1: you know, if your team, if you're looking at cornerbacks,

641
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 1: keep an eye on number twenty three in Kansas State.

642
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: How he does against Gryce Young. It's gonna be a

643
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: good matchup. And i gotta say I'm very disappointed. You know,

644
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 1: I'm used to the Sugar Ball being the last game

645
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: on January one. Although January one games in January sewod

646
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,719
Speaker 1: the Sugar Bowls being played at twelve o'clock eastern New

647
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:08,719
Speaker 1: Eastern Standard time. That's really unusual. Yeah, well that is strange.

648
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: All right, let's jump over Mississippi State in Illinois and

649
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,959
Speaker 1: Illinois Tony has some players that I know that are

650
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 1: making some noise here, specifically in the secondary. I mean,

651
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: they've got some terrific players. Gonna be interesting. Who's who's

652
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: on the field. You know. You start off with Devin Witherspoon,

653
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: number thirty one, the corner, who is a ice de ressive,

654
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: confident guy. He's got excellent ball skills. He's not afraid

655
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,239
Speaker 1: to mix it up in the pile. Deep speeds are

656
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: concern for with Devin Witherspoon, but he's still gonna be

657
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: a Day two pick. Next to him is Sydney Round,

658
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: the safety, who's a smaller guy, but he you want

659
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: to talk about a guy who is always willing to

660
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: throw his pads in a pile against the run in

661
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: the past, even though he's shortened stature. He's intimidating guy.

662
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 1: His brother is the running back, Chase Ground that's had

663
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: a record set a year. Smaller guy have but plays hard,

664
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: plays cup and he's also an outstanding pass catcher out

665
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: of the backfield. And they have a guy who wasn't

666
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: even great coming into the season. By image George Tavious Marton,

667
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,719
Speaker 1: who's there nickelback who really when he's facing the action

668
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,719
Speaker 1: in his own type system, he's got excellent ball skills.

669
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 1: When he has to play over the receiver and he's

670
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: got a transition or back pedal, he gets a little bit,

671
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: it gets a little bit crazy for him, and it's

672
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,239
Speaker 1: he's not as good in that sort of situation. And

673
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: against the you know, Mississippi State, they've been playing against

674
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: Will Rodgers, the quarterback who's had a terrific year, who

675
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 1: showed a lot of improvement in his game, who really

676
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: took well to that mic Leach system. So that's gonna

677
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: be a big challenge for those guys, big opportunity as well. Yeah,

678
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 1: let's go to LC Purdue Tony. You mentioned Jane and

679
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: Daniels returning to school. UM. One player that's interesting to

680
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: me is Charlie Jones, the Purdue wide receiver has had

681
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: a really good year. He was a transfer. He's in

682
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: a six years, so he's an older prospect, but he's

683
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: been very productive and he knows how to get behind

684
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 1: the defense, and he's he's a he's a twice transfer.

685
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: I think he started a Buffalo, then he went to

686
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 1: I will then he ended up at Perdue and he's

687
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: had a great year and he was Aidan Campbell's number

688
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: Aiden O'Connell's number one target. He was a guy who

689
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: couldn't uh couldn't be stopped. Real good receiver. I'm told

690
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: he's got some medical issues. You've gotta keep an eye

691
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 1: and had some issues with his hips. Uh. You know,

692
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,239
Speaker 1: you go against the l s U. They've always got

693
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: some good guys in their secondary. Mickey Garner, the transfer

694
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 1: from Louisiana, who's gonna enter the draft. Could be a

695
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 1: day to pick more of a middle round choice. Gregg Brooks,

696
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: the safety gonna It's gonna be a good challenge, uh

697
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 1: for Jones if he's playing in this game. I'm not

698
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: sure he's even playing this game, but if he does,

699
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: because I know you O'Connell's sitting out the game, a

700
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: lot of the Perdu guys are sitting out the game. Uh,

701
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 1: it'll be a big challenge for Charlie Jones going to

702
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: get up against that talented l s U secondary. Let's

703
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: go to USC two lane here. I don't think Kayla

704
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: Williams is gonna play in this game. Tony with the

705
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 1: injury stuff from the last one, but I'm not sure

706
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: about that. Correct me if I'm wrong, and then they're playing. Um.

707
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: You know, you have a couple of players in this

708
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: game that I think are really interesting for USC. Yeah,

709
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: as well as Tou Lane. I mean, it's great to

710
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: see Tu Lane, you know, playing a game like this.

711
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: To Lane's got an outstanding running back, Taija Spears. I

712
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 1: haven't really put my thumb as to whether or not

713
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: he's gonna enter the draft. He's an explosive guy. He's

714
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: a terrific perimeter runner who also catches the ball while

715
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 1: out of the backfield. I think when you look at

716
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: Taija Spears projecting him the next level, he's more of

717
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: a situational third down type back. They had some good

718
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: guys in the end the and the defense as well.

719
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: Dorry and Williams a linebacker, Nick Anderson the linebacker, Larry

720
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: Brooks safety making Clark of safety. These guys are more

721
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:38,320
Speaker 1: late round even pete priority free agents hide guys who

722
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: will make a roster at the next level as the

723
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 1: eighth linebacker or the seventh defensive back. You know, you

724
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 1: look at USC, you gotta start with their especially on defense. Uh,

725
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:53,439
Speaker 1: their their defensive lineman Julei TOI p Loto, who I'm

726
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: told is going to enter the draft. Thank you, especially

727
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 1: for me. There are some people who think he's going

728
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: to be a first round pick because he's a big,

729
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: explosive pass rusher who can play in a two gap system.

730
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 1: I also like their cornerback Micky Blackman, the transfer from Colorado,

731
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: who's shown a lot of improvement in his game. Project

732
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: him as a middle round choice. All let's go to Utah.

733
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 1: Penn State here, Tony who jumps out? I know Penn

734
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: State has the big left tackle that we really like.

735
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,280
Speaker 1: He's not gonna come out, but I think people already

736
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 1: talking about top five pick for him, and you know

737
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: the draft. Who else in this game gets you excited? Ye?

738
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,919
Speaker 1: Interesting in the sense that, uh, you know, he bypassed

739
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 1: uh thirty million dollars on guaranteed Saturday to go back.

740
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 1: But I'm told that there were some injury concerns, which

741
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: was part of the reason why he went back. As

742
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: far as US as far as Penn State's concerned, Penn

743
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,760
Speaker 1: State always has good safeties. They always put him on

744
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 1: the on the field, and they got another one in

745
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: Ji year Brown. Who is you know, very complete, not

746
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,720
Speaker 1: a great athlete, but goes sidelines to sideline, makes plays

747
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 1: against the run as well as the past. P J.

748
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: Mustafer who went back for another Sea in your season.

749
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:04,280
Speaker 1: He's an explosive interior defensive tackle. He's the guy to watch.

750
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 1: Utah always has good players. I mean the guy to

751
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: watch right now is Clark Phillips, UH, their cornerback who

752
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,240
Speaker 1: I'm told is going to enter the draft. Clark Phillips,

753
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 1: the Clark Clark Phillips, the third who who actually has

754
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: an announced for the draft. I don't know if he's

755
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: playing in this game. And Dalton Kincaid, the tight end

756
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 1: who filled in when their primary UH tight end Brian

757
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,760
Speaker 1: Queif went down with injury and then Dalton Kinkaid's game,

758
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 1: you know, took off. Dalton Kinkaid was always known as

759
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 1: a guy who had size, who had speed, but just

760
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: didn't have a lot of production. That ended when Queith

761
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 1: went down and Kincaid became the starter. And now Kinkaid

762
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: is really looking at himself as a mid round choice,

763
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: maybe even a Day two pick if he tests as

764
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 1: expected before the draft. All right, let's get to our

765
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: college playoff preview here. Tony Well start in Michigan. TCU.

766
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 1: Now we did a lot of the Michigan guys. All right,

767
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 1: if you guys want to go back at think it's

768
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 1: two episodes ago. We did our big Ohio State Michigan

769
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,720
Speaker 1: episode and we talked about a lot of these guys

770
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 1: on Michigan. But feel for to touch on anyone else

771
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 1: in Michigan or reinforce something from that group, Tony that

772
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 1: you want. And then TCUs had a great year and

773
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: we kind of did a little thumbnail on Quentin Johnson earlier.

774
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 1: But he's a guy that is vying for that top

775
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 1: receiver off the board. Yeah. Well, the only thing I'll

776
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: tell you about Michigan from what I'm here and what

777
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: I have reported, is that Mazzy Smith, Mike Morris, and

778
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: DJ Turner, all on the defensive side of the ball,

779
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: are expected to enter the draft. They've got that terrific center.

780
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: I'm not even although a teeny who is he's a

781
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,240
Speaker 1: great football player. I don't know he's a great athlete,

782
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,399
Speaker 1: but he's a great football player with a great right

783
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 1: rain for the position. I think it's gonna be a

784
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: gay three pick. One of those interior offensive lineman that

785
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 1: turned into that are six or seventh round pick and

786
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 1: then go on to be a tenure start in the NFL.

787
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 1: You know, as far as uh TCU is concerned, I

788
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: don't think MaTx Newgan gets the respect that he deserves

789
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 1: the quarterback. He was great in that big, tall championship game.

790
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:06,399
Speaker 1: Holy cow, was he unbelievable. He's been outstanding all season long.

791
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 1: When it wasn't even he wasn't even the starter, wasn't

792
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 1: even sure he's gonna be the starter coming in. He's

793
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 1: had a lot of different offensive coordinators there at TCU.

794
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: He's really taken well to the system there. He's big,

795
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: he's got it on. He needs some polish on his game,

796
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: needs to improve his techniques, but he's had a real

797
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: good year. And I don't think people are talking about

798
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 1: Max Dowgan the way they should. We talked about Quentin Johnson,

799
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: got Darius Davis is a terrific downfield receiver for them,

800
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 1: Hey Barbara, another guy who's also an explosive return specialist.

801
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 1: They've got some players in the secondary and various Hodge

802
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,240
Speaker 1: Thomlinson who was a shorter corner, but he's got great

803
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 1: ball skills and he's a feisty run defender who can

804
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: also play special teams. A lot of underrated talent on

805
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 1: that TCU depth chart that people don't talk about. Yeah,

806
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: I want to dig in on Quinn Johnson before we

807
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: get to our final game, Tony real quick. I don't

808
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 1: even mentioned that he's kind of a take the top

809
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: off the defense, big size speed guy. Right. Where is

810
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 1: he lacking? Where does he still need to make some

811
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 1: of those um improvements to be a more well rounded

812
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,879
Speaker 1: wide receiver. Route running? He's got a very limited route tree,

813
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: and you know, he's got to learn that it's not

814
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 1: just a straight line game that he can get in

815
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,959
Speaker 1: and out of routes and separate. You know, I don't

816
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 1: want to random as one of those bigger athletic, big

817
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: twelve receivers that everyone goes gaga over, you know, while

818
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,399
Speaker 1: they watch him on on Saturday, but they never pan

819
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,879
Speaker 1: out on Sunday. Hakeen Butler, Hello, anybody, I don't think

820
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna random that yet. But he's got to

821
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 1: improve his right running. He also drops too many passes

822
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 1: that should uh he should hold onto the ball goes

823
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 1: slipping through his hands. All right, keep an eye on

824
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 1: that if you're looking for a wide receiver in the draft. Alrighty,

825
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: final game here and then we'll, you know, we'll we'll

826
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: do a review of these playoff games and ball games

827
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 1: coming up next week on draft season. Make sure you

828
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: guys tune in for that Georgia Ohio State. And there

829
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 1: is no shortage of players that are gonna get drafted

830
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 1: in this game, Tony. And it's funny. I almost feel

831
00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: like Ohio State is the best chance to knock Georgia

832
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 1: off and they're playing him in the first round of

833
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: this thing. We'll see, um, but take this anyway you want, Uh,

834
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,479
Speaker 1: what group do you want to dissect? First? Well, I mean,

835
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: we could do a whole show on this game, right.

836
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you look at Georgia. You look at their defense.

837
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: I mean they had what four defensive players selected in

838
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: the first round last year, and in Jalen Carter, they're

839
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: gonna have a guy that's gonna be a top five pick.

840
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: I mean Jalen Carter. He might be the best of

841
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: the whole group last year and this year. And never

842
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 1: mind the fact that you know they've lost three got eight.

843
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: You know, three of his teammates graduated to the NFL

844
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 1: last year, and here he is you know, how is

845
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 1: he gonna do? And he just improved. I mean his

846
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,240
Speaker 1: game just took off this year. He just dominates everyone.

847
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 1: He's big, size, speed, quickness, everything, He's got it all. Athletic,

848
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: can rush the passer, can can stack well against the run.

849
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 1: He's gonna be a very early pick. He is going

850
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,720
Speaker 1: to enter the draft. Robert Fields a good player. Teelee Ringo.

851
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 1: I know people are absolutely love with Ringo. I have

852
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 1: my concerns. Chris. Chris, when he was on one of

853
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: the earlier shows, said yeah, that there were some concerns

854
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: about his game in the sense that he's you know,

855
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 1: he gives up some receptions that he shouldn't Tony. For me,

856
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: he's like he's he's almost like a tools cornerback, right.

857
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: People love his size and speed, but and the flashes. Yeah,

858
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: but the consistent and I'll call it production. I just

859
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 1: mean consistent play. I don't think he's there yet. There

860
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: are a lot of lapses in his that is a

861
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 1: concern at the cornerback position. I mean, you you you've

862
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 1: got to you know, my gardener. There were lapses in

863
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: his game, but he showed improvement. He showed him through it.

864
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 1: I don't see that sort of player in Keeley Ringo.

865
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,399
Speaker 1: They do have an outstanding safety and Chris Smith, who

866
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 1: I think is going to be a mid round choice,

867
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 1: gonna play at the next level. You go to the

868
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball. Kenny McIntosh was highly rated

869
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 1: by scouts coming into the year. At times Kenny macintosh

870
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 1: looks like a top sixty pick. At other times you're

871
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: wondering where is Kenny McIntosh. You know he's not in

872
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: the field. He's not product to Roderick Jones, their left tackle,

873
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: I'm told is going to enter the draft. He's going

874
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: to be a Day two pick. I think the thing

875
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: with Roderick Jones is what are his measurables? Are teams

876
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: happy with his measurables that they either gonna keep him

877
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 1: at left tackle? I have him on my guardboard. You

878
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: go over to Ohio State and as I said, I

879
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 1: believe I said the left show. What I'm told is

880
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 1: after this game you're gonna see the floodgates open with

881
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 1: Ohio State and they're under classmen. A bunch of their

882
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 1: under classmen are going to enter the draft. C J. Stroud,

883
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:32,760
Speaker 1: Paris Johnson left tackle, Luke Whippler the center Kate Stover,

884
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 1: the tight end, all under classmen going to enter the draft. Uh,

885
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 1: you look on the off the defensive side of the ball,

886
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 1: They've got some terrific players, terrific linebackers and Steel Chambers

887
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 1: and Tommy Eikenberg. I mean, this game comes down to

888
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: Ohio State's got to get the ball in the end

889
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 1: zone early and often, and when they get in the

890
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 1: red zone, they can't settle for field goals because if

891
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,839
Speaker 1: they settle for field goals, it's gonna be in lot

892
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: situation like what happened against Michigan, where or you will

893
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,800
Speaker 1: just steamroll over them late in the game. Yeah, a

894
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: couple of things here told him before we say goodbye.

895
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 1: I think this is a huge game for c J. Stroud.

896
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 1: I gotta be honest with you. I think you're going

897
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: up against and literally an NFL caliber defense that is

898
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: really coached well, having a lot of good players, and

899
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: it's not like a House States out man. They have

900
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 1: the talent, So I don't need see z Strive to

901
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: come out here and go for three seventy five and

902
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:27,280
Speaker 1: four touchdowns. But he can't be like twelve or thirty

903
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,959
Speaker 1: for one seventy five and three picks. Here. He needs

904
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 1: to at least be good in this game, I think

905
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 1: to secure that draft stock. When you look at it

906
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 1: from a top sixty point of view, Ohio State has

907
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: more Top sixty players than Georgia does. It's just Georgia's

908
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 1: got Jalen Carter, who you know is going to be

909
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: in very early picked. They got a quarterback in Stetson

910
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: Bennett that plays over his head over a cheese and

911
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: does more than anyone ever expects of him, and they

912
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: got a left tackle. It's very consistent. So when you're

913
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:01,720
Speaker 1: looking at it from the next level perspective of Ohio States,

914
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 1: he probably has an edge over Georgia. But Georgia just

915
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 1: finds ways to win because they execute, and they overachieve,

916
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: and they basically play the way people expect. Al Right,

917
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 1: two other guys in the house, Stay, I want to

918
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 1: touch on real quick. House. They usually develops really good

919
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 1: running backs. Tony, what do you think of this Ohio

920
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:22,800
Speaker 1: State running back group this year? We haven't heard a

921
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 1: buch about him? Yeah, I mean, and he and they

922
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: are not. I think those guys are injured and not playing.

923
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 1: I don't know that they're even uh they're even draft eligible.

924
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:34,399
Speaker 1: I mean they look very good. They have a good

925
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: offensive line in front of them. On Williams, I think

926
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:38,800
Speaker 1: is draft eligble, right, Am I wrong about that? I

927
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 1: could be wrong. Uh Myrin Williams is draft me and

928
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,839
Speaker 1: Williams is draft eligible. I've not heard. I mean maybe

929
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 1: he answers the draft. I've not heard that. He's one

930
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,399
Speaker 1: of the few underclassmens that I've not heard about. I mean,

931
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 1: you know, like you said, we talked about the Oklahoma

932
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: running backs. Ohio State running backs always do very well. Uh,

933
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: I would like to see them more productive. Is past

934
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 1: catch years out of the backfield, but that's also c J.

935
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,280
Speaker 1: Stroud using them as pass catchers out of the backfield

936
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 1: and improving his short passing all right. On defense, we

937
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: talked about a lot about their offense. Zach Harrison and

938
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: Tommy Eikenberg. Give me your little thumbnail on those two guys.

939
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: Irrison is a guy, can stand over tackle, come out

940
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 1: of a three point stance, real good pass rusher, explosive,

941
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: not a bad run defender. I mean, he's not a

942
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 1: liability against the run. He's shown the ability to hold up,

943
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: change direction, make plays in every area of the field.

944
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 1: Like him as the middle round pick. Ken Burg is

945
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: a guy who's really jumped off the film this year.

946
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 1: I mean he is your you talk about Ohio State

947
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: running back, so how state linebackers, you know, have a

948
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 1: have a history of being that tough, punching amount type

949
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 1: of defender. That's what Eichenberg is if he enters the draft,

950
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: depending on how he tests and his measurables, maybe late

951
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: day two. Good stuff telling anything else you want to

952
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 1: throw out there about these bowl games college football, he

953
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 1: got anything before we say goodbye, And it's gonna be

954
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 1: fun to watch, especially SAT today. Uh you know, we

955
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,280
Speaker 1: basically said as far as Ohio State and George's concern,

956
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: Ohio State's got to score early. I think TCU you

957
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 1: want to be you want to see that they are

958
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 1: outmatched against Michigan. What we said that about TCU throughout

959
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: the season. Every time you think TCU is outmatched and

960
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: doesn't it's not gonna win the game, they find a

961
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 1: way to pull it out. So I think both games

962
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,879
Speaker 1: can be very very interesting. Yeah, I agree. And and and look,

963
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: I think Dougan, you know, he kind of doesn't feel

964
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,439
Speaker 1: like an NFL quarterback to me. I think he's gonna

965
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 1: be kind of one of those really good career backups

966
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 1: that can come in and give you a spark within

967
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 1: a few games. But his toughness, he could run it.

968
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 1: I don't know. There's something about him that I think

969
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 1: we'll keep this game against Michigan close. I'm with you,

970
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:40,479
Speaker 1: I think it'll be It'll be a fun New Year's

971
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,399
Speaker 1: Eve before everyone you know drops the drops the ball

972
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 1: and you know, does some drinking. You can enjoy some

973
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 1: good football before you get to that point on on

974
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,240
Speaker 1: Saturday night. Tony, good stuff, my friend. Always a pleasure

975
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 1: to talk to you. Absolutely. Happy New Year everyone. Thanks

976
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 1: for joining us on draft season. It was all brought

977
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,240
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978
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979
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:01,959
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980
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,960
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981
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,919
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982
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,240
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983
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,880
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984
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,160
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