1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: This is twenty four, a weekly highlight reel from the Clay, 2 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton Show featuring all things the election coverage. 3 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 2: Let's get started. Here are Clay and Buck. 4 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 3: I understand for a lot of people out there, it's 5 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 3: kind of hard to even keep tabs on all of 6 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 3: the different storylines out there circulating, whether it's e. Gene Carroll, 7 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 3: whether it's Alvin Bragg, whether it's Letitia James and the 8 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 3: business related case, whether it's down in South Florida with 9 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:37,599 Speaker 3: the classified documents in Washington, d C. With January sixth, 10 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 3: in Atlanta, Georgia, with everything that happened in the state 11 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 3: of Georgia, and now in front of the Supreme Court, 12 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:51,480 Speaker 3: unprecedented as Colorado and Maine have taken Donald Trump off 13 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 3: the ballot and are arguing that he is ineligible to 14 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 3: be the president of the United States. 15 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 2: Now, let's play a couple of cuts. 16 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 3: Maybe we'll even go jump in and and listen to 17 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 3: a bit of this live, as it is an unprecedented 18 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 3: and historic argument that is currently taking place in the 19 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 3: Supreme Court. But here is Trump's attorney Jonathan Mitchell, responding 20 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 3: to questions from Katanji Brown Jackson saying straight up it 21 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 3: was not an insurrection. A strong part of his argument 22 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 3: Let's play cut one. 23 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 4: I read your opening brief to accept that those events 24 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 4: counted as an insurrection, but then your reply seemed to 25 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 4: suggest that they were not. 26 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 2: So what is your positions? 27 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 5: Then? 28 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 6: We never accepted or conceded in our opening brief that 29 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 6: this was an insurrection. What we said in our opening 30 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 6: brief was President Trump did not engage in any act 31 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 6: that can plausibly be characterized as in surremby. 32 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 4: Right, So why would this not be an insert? What 33 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 4: is your argument that it's not? Your reply brief says 34 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 4: that it wasn't because I think you say it did 35 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 4: not involve an organized attempt to overthrow the government. 36 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 6: So that's one of many reasons. But for an insurrection, 37 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 6: there needs to be an organized, concerted effort to overthrow 38 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 6: the government of the United It stays through violence. 39 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 4: And this point is that a chaotic effort to overthrow 40 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 4: the government is not an insurrection. 41 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 6: But we didn't con see that it's an effort to 42 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 6: overthrow the government either. 43 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 5: Justice Jackson right. 44 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 6: None of these criteria were met. This was a riot, 45 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,519 Speaker 6: It was not an insurrection. The events were shameful, criminal, violent, 46 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 6: all of those things, but did not qualify as insurrection 47 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 6: as that term is used in section three. 48 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 7: That is excellent work by that attorney on the absolutely 49 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 7: critical issue here, Clay. I remember I wrote, I think 50 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 7: it was back in twenty twenty or twenty twenty one, 51 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 7: an op ed where I just said, anyone who says 52 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 7: this is an insurrection is an idiot or a liar. 53 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 7: It's clearly not an insurrection, and let's just take a 54 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 7: step back. 55 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 2: I think the lawyer there did a. 56 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 7: Good job of arguing this on behalf of the Trump campaign. 57 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 7: But keep in mind, it's not just a person here 58 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 7: that they are saying was trying to overthrow the government. 59 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 7: They are explicitly stating that the commander in chief of 60 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 7: the most powerful military in the history of the world, 61 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 7: in all all of human history, somehow was trying to 62 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 7: overthrow the government without a single armed person doing anything 63 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 7: to anyone. Okay, that somehow the guy who has at 64 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 7: his disposal the nuclear codes the branches of the United 65 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 7: States military. Now you could say the military would have 66 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 7: refused a lawful order. Okay, But if Trump had told, 67 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 7: you know, a marine expeditionary for. 68 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 2: The military at all. 69 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,119 Speaker 3: Buck, Hey, I need you to go to the Capitol 70 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 3: and try to prevent a proceeding from taking place. 71 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 2: That's an insurrection. 72 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 7: That's an insurrection, and it's not hard. He was somebody 73 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 7: who had the full capability to try an insurrection if 74 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 7: Donald Trump had wanted to, and it would have been 75 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 7: a definitional I would have been the clearest possible insurrection, 76 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 7: which is party in power says, you know what, We're 77 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 7: using the military to subvert the democratic process and overthrow 78 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 7: the peaceful transfer of power. If Trump had did that, yes, 79 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 7: it would have been an insurrection. We would not be 80 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 7: sitting here arguing about this. It would have been clear. Okay, 81 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 7: that's not what happened. And I'm sorry, but we can't 82 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 7: forget the political party and the political ideology. The Democrats 83 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 7: who embraced months of riots to intimidate the American population 84 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 7: going into an election year and pretended that somehow people 85 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 7: burning down buildings and looting drug stores and punching cops 86 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 7: and throwing bottles of urine at them, not one time 87 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 7: at one over excited protest, but for months and months, 88 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 7: for the summer of BLM two point zero twenty twenty, 89 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 7: that they lionized these individuals that they held them up 90 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 7: as civil rights heroes. They're going to lecture us now 91 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 7: and try to prevent the political process from playing out 92 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 7: based on our riot that happened. 93 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 2: That's really how this is going to go. 94 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 7: You know, I'm I'm happy that the Supreme Court, I 95 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 7: think Clay is going to come to the right conclusion here. 96 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 7: Everyone should be appalled at the fact that you're so 97 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 7: to my Ore and Catangi Brown, Jackson, Jackson. I can 98 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 7: assure you, I think this was an insurrection and if 99 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 7: they could, they would keep Donald Trump off the ballot. 100 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 7: I don't think you're going to get a nine to 101 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 7: oh here. 102 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 2: I hope we get a nine to oh. I think 103 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 2: I hope we get a NYE. I do think because 104 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 2: we will. I don't. 105 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 7: I think a Tangy Brown, Jackson and so do my 106 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 7: Ore are going to say this was an insurrection. Trump 107 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 7: should be off the ballot. 108 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 2: That's how. 109 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 7: By the way, I hope that I'm wrong, because that's appalling, 110 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 7: But I think that they will, and that tells you 111 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 7: a lot. 112 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 3: Well, if that happens, I hope Elena Kagan at least 113 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 3: leaves behind the My biggest concern Buck is that we 114 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 3: get a six to three verdict, right, and it is 115 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 3: everybody on the left of the Supreme Court says Trump 116 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 3: should be removed from a ballot, and then they have 117 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:52,919 Speaker 3: to file a descent and they have to set that 118 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 3: precedent as a descent out there for years and years 119 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 3: into the future, hundreds of years hopefully maybe even at 120 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 3: the years. Who knows how long our republic will stand. 121 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 3: But the precedent that they set here is going to 122 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 3: echo throughout generation. So that's why I hope it's an IINO. 123 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 3: I hope it is an IO. I fear that it's 124 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 3: going to be a six to three. I hope at 125 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 3: minimum to your point that it's a seven to two, 126 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 3: so at least Elena Kagan can break off and not 127 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 3: be straight political. 128 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 2: In terms of it. I can't tell you why I 129 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 2: think demarcation are. 130 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that's I mean, I might now want 131 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 7: to amend and say it it'll be six to three. 132 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 7: I am very confident that Soda Mayor and Jackson will 133 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 7: we'll go along with this, this fantasy, this mythology. 134 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 5: That it's an insurrection. 135 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 7: And also, how do you have due process if it's 136 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 7: just an argument in the public square, that you can 137 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 7: be taken off because people say so, right, I mean 138 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 7: that the whole thing is nuts. The public square argument 139 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 7: is the ballot box. That's how This the only way 140 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 7: that this whole thing for Trump should be solved. And 141 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 7: any adult, any like sentient, emotionally able adult can see 142 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 7: this is let the people vote. Let's see what the 143 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 7: American people actually really think. 144 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 5: Right. 145 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 7: I mean, that's but I think Kagan I didn't want 146 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 7: to skip past this. Kagan knows that as a matter 147 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 7: of law, this is absurd, but she's also a leftist 148 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 7: and she may feel too much pressure, you know what 149 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 7: I mean. I think she recognizes in her heart that 150 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 7: this is crazy, but she may go along with the 151 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 7: other two because this is so emotionally devastating to the left, 152 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 7: the fact that Donald Trump may actually be able to 153 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 7: run and win. 154 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 3: I think the idea of it being a descent that 155 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 3: you have to write and for people out there who 156 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 3: don't really think a lot about this, Scullia was an 157 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 3: expert at this. There have been many great dissenters over 158 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 3: the course of the Supreme Court's history, and the great 159 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 3: thing about a dissent is you're writing for the future 160 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 3: and argument that you believe in today, and you're trying 161 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 3: to lay the groundwork to win a case maybe twenty fifty, 162 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 3: maybe one hundred years from now, based on a really 163 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 3: strong argument that you firmly believe in that could carry 164 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 3: the day in the future. The one reason why I'm 165 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 3: optimistic a little tiny bit Buck, that we could get 166 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 3: a nine to zero is I think this dissent if 167 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 3: they say that Trump should be taken off the ballot. 168 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 3: I think when you move away from the passions of 169 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 3: the moment, which is what a court is supposed to do, 170 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 3: not be taken up. What did Benjamin Franklin say back 171 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 3: in the day, passion rules and she never rules wisely 172 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 3: a lot of times the moment, you know, think about Buck, 173 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 3: what they said, I mean Kormatsu. I believe it was 174 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 3: where they said, hey, you can put Japanese people in 175 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 3: internment camps. 176 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 2: And it takes a long time. 177 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:56,079 Speaker 7: Supreme Court upheld it, right, that's it. No federal ranch 178 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 7: did it. And then the Supreme Court said yeah. 179 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 3: And that was obviously reacting in real time to what 180 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 3: was going on in the World War two elements and 181 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:09,719 Speaker 3: the passions of the moment. And then they come back 182 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 3: on it, and they're like, man, this was an embarrassment 183 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,839 Speaker 3: of the court. I think twenty years, forty years from now, 184 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 3: this could be an embarrassment to the court. And I 185 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 3: think writing a dissent Kagan, I think would get that 186 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 3: better than most. Sotomayor you may be right, and Katanji 187 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 3: Brown Jackson may be such leftists that they would not 188 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 3: be able to rise to the level of thinking about 189 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 3: the history that they're making and what that discent would 190 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 3: look like for years to come. And by the way, 191 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 3: there are people out there who are intelligent we should 192 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 3: play this. I mean, this is judge, former federal judge Ludig, 193 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 3: who is a Republican and is a conservative and obviously 194 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 3: hates Trump, but he was one of these individuals who 195 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 3: even started this argument. To be fair, it's not just 196 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 3: the leftists who have made the argue that Trump I 197 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 3: disagree with it, but it's not just leftifs to have 198 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 3: made this argument. Here's cut two that there is I 199 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 3: don't know twenty percent of the legal community probably that 200 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 3: would subscribe to the idea that Trump is not eligible anymore. 201 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 3: Here is letting a former Federal Circuit Court judge. I 202 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 3: think listen to him. 203 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:24,959 Speaker 8: Cut to there's no question whatsoever that the former president 204 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 8: engage in an insurrection against the Constitution when he attempted 205 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 8: to remain in power beyond his constitutional term of four years. 206 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 8: This is precisely the insurrection that disqualifies one under section 207 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,959 Speaker 8: three of the fourteenth Amendment. But there's such massive political 208 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 8: consequences that although the Supreme Court ought not consider those, 209 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 8: undoubtedly they will consider them. But the Constitution requires the 210 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 8: disqualification of the former president. 211 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 7: Okay, hold on a second. First of all, it's a 212 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 7: horrible argument, okay, because all you have then is any 213 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 7: part is in state can keep at any point in 214 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 7: time a presidential candidate off the ballot because they say so, okay, 215 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 7: there's no process here. Trump has not been adjudicated to 216 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 7: have engaged in any crime, never mind insurrection. But beyond 217 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 7: that for a second, you look at this. They're conflating, 218 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 7: and I think this is critical. They're conflating the Trump efforts, 219 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 7: which they've also tried to criminalize, but put that aside. 220 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 7: They're conflating the Trump efforts to challenge via legal argument 221 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 7: the election outcome and people on their own volition gathering 222 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 7: and then some portion of those people it was. Remember 223 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 7: there were one hundred thousand people gathered in DC and 224 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 7: a few thousand of them went to the Capitol and 225 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 7: then even a smaller percentage of that engaged in actual 226 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 7: criminal behavior. And they're acting like those are the same thing. Effectively, 227 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 7: Trump having his legal team questioning different things and coming 228 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 7: up with strategies, whether you agree with the strategies or not, 229 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 7: is not the same thing as people breaking the law. 230 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 7: On attacking cops on Capitol Hill? Did Trump say attack cops? 231 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 7: Did Trump say stop the peaceful transfer of power? 232 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 9: No? 233 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 7: In fact, he's on video saying have your voices heard peacefully? 234 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 2: Now. 235 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 7: They can be upset that Trump didn't shut it down sooner, 236 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 7: we can be upset that this is a political blunder 237 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 7: that you know, we still have to deal with years later. 238 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 7: But nonetheless, they're conflating trump legal arguments with criminal acts. 239 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 7: And then the even bigger conflation is the criminal acts 240 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 7: of a riot amounting to an insurrection. There are leaps 241 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 7: here that simply are not in evidence. 242 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 3: I want to play a couple of more cuts as 243 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 3: we move through this hour, because I think this is 244 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 3: such a significant day, and I think that's well said 245 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 3: And the other thing I would I would ask people 246 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 3: to think about is Buck, what would the political process 247 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 3: look like today if jan six never happened. They probably 248 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 3: are still coming after Trump for calls that he made 249 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 3: surrounding Georgia and everything else. But I think the legacy 250 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 3: of January sixth four Democrats as a politically cogent message 251 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 3: is dying a little bit more every day. And we'll 252 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 3: talk about that as well. And I think ultimately this 253 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 3: question comes down to and I think in the back 254 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:17,839 Speaker 3: of their minds that the justices are going to be 255 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 3: thinking about it. Do we want one hundred and fifty 256 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 3: million people to be able to make a choice about 257 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 3: whether or not they think Trump is qualified to be 258 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 3: president of the United States? Or do we want nine 259 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 3: jurors sitting on the Supreme Court right now? And I 260 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,599 Speaker 3: would even extend it further, Buck or twelve members of 261 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 3: a jury in Washington, d C. I want as many 262 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 3: people as possible weighing in as opposed to his few. 263 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 7: This is a fundamentally political question, and Democrats subverting the 264 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 7: political process in the name of saving it are doing 265 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 7: violence to the constitution. 266 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: You're listening to twenty four, the Year of Impact with 267 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: Clay and Bach. 268 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:06,319 Speaker 7: Our friend Mollie Hemingway, who's a brilliant conservative writer and pundit. 269 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 7: She is up on Capitol Hill today testifying about election integrity, 270 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:18,319 Speaker 7: election security flaws, challenges. I wanted you to hear some 271 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 7: of her testimony because she was on fire today. 272 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 10: The American system of self governance is under attack. Instead 273 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 10: of an election day where everyone votes at the same 274 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 10: time and with the same full set of information, votes 275 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 10: are counted quickly and everyone promptly knows and trusts the outcome, 276 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 10: we now have lengthy election seasons that can last months 277 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 10: prior to and even after election day. The situation is 278 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 10: so absurd that we have presidential and gubernatorial debates weeks 279 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 10: after some people have already voted. I look forward to 280 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 10: answering questions about how the private oligarch takeover of elections 281 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 10: is a threat to our system of self government. 282 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 7: I mean, she goes on Clay. She was making phenomenal points. 283 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 7: Know she wrote a very good book on this rigged 284 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 7: Yes about the twenty twenty election and what really went 285 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 7: on there, heavily researched and footnoted and fact checked. And 286 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 7: people ask us, this has this stuff all been fixed, 287 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 7: not all, maybe some. 288 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 3: She's super smart and you may remember Buck that one 289 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 3: of the last times we saw her face to face. 290 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 3: Her mom is a big fan of the program, lives 291 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 3: in Colorado and may well be listening right now. So 292 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 3: I would imagine as a dad who just managed to 293 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 3: finish two hundred miles of car training. It's always great 294 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 3: to hear your kids praised. So thank you to Molly 295 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 3: Himingway's mom for raising such a talented daughter. And also, 296 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 3: if she is listening right now, thank you to Molly h. 297 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 3: Hemingway's mom for having such great taste in radio. We 298 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 3: appreciate you listening every single day and enjoying the program. 299 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 3: And that book, Rigged is a phenomenal book if you 300 00:15:56,560 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 3: want to understand better exactly what went on in twenty twenty, 301 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 3: get outside of just the big headlines and get into 302 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 3: the nitty gritty. 303 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 2: She wrote a really good book. 304 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 3: And she also did Buck a fabulous book on the 305 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 3: Kabinaugh Hearings. 306 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 7: Yes, which Justin saw trottail. 307 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 3: Yes, so well done there too, that was fantastically well done. 308 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: You're listening to twenty four The Most Important Tier in 309 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: Politics with Clay Travis en Buck. 310 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 7: Sexton they say Joe Biden is not of sound enough 311 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 7: mind that a jury would prosecute him because he's a kindly, 312 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 7: grandfatherly figure who forgets things all the time. And this 313 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 7: all would make perhaps a bit more sense if Joe 314 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 7: Biden spent most of his time working on his memoirs 315 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 7: and fly fishing. But he is, at least in theory, 316 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 7: the current sitting commander in chief of the United States Military, 317 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 7: the President of the United States, the leader of the 318 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 7: free world. It almost makes you laugh as you say 319 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 7: say this. Joe Biden is technically the most powerful human 320 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 7: being on the planet right now. Yeah, let's let that 321 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 7: one sink in for a moment. And we've been told 322 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 7: that in order to excuse his criminal acts, can we 323 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 7: also just get a Democrat who doesn't commit crimes? You know, 324 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 7: Hillary Clinton commit crimes. She destroyed evidence, she mishandled classified 325 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 7: many times. Joe Biden, I mean, can we just get 326 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 7: a Democrat to run up against who isn't being excused 327 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 7: by some federal prosecutor because of reasons of politics. But Clay, 328 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 7: I thought this was this was quite a moment. Wasn't 329 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 7: Dan Goldman one of the big get Trump guys over 330 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 7: jan six. Now he's Congressman Dan Goldman. He was a lawyer, 331 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 7: and I remember MSNBC who they were so excited when 332 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 7: Dan Goldman was shouting about Trump's insurrection and all this stuff. 333 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 2: Here he is. 334 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 7: We could just do so many of these saying that 335 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 7: Biden's mistakes are no big deal. This has cut six plays, so. 336 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 9: So true that Speaker of Mike Johnson went on Meet 337 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 9: the Press and confused Iran and Israel, which is a 338 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 9: much more significant mistake than President cc as being in Mexico. 339 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 9: But I'm not going to sit here saying Mike Johnson 340 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 9: has no memory loss or you know that he is 341 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 9: ill equipped to be Speaker of the House because he 342 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 9: made an obvious, incidental, tangential mistake. And it's wrong to 343 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 9: think that because President Biden made a simple incidental mistake 344 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 9: that everyone understood what he was referring to, that that 345 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 9: has anything to do with his mental acuity. 346 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:42,120 Speaker 7: Goldman is a liar. He knows, he knows that this 347 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:46,360 Speaker 7: is a garbage comparison he's making. But the true defenders 348 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 7: of Biden have got to lie at this point. 349 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:52,640 Speaker 3: We've said on this show for some time that we're 350 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 3: not going to get every word right, and everybody Democrat, Republican, 351 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 3: independence sometimes says one thing when they mean another. And 352 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 3: I've used an example for whatever reason, I used to 353 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 3: get Brett fav than Aaron Rodgers mixed up. I still say, 354 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 3: because the La Chargers now are in Los Angeles, I 355 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 3: sometimes still call him San Diego. I'm in Las Vegas 356 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 3: right now, where the Raiders are now an NFL team 357 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 3: that is playing here. Buck, I still say the Oakland 358 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 3: Raiders sometimes. 359 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:27,360 Speaker 7: Has he ever explained to you why it's Brett Fava? 360 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 7: But you say farv. 361 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 3: I know I've never asked, But that is something about 362 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 3: Mary right as they're the joke from. 363 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 2: Something about that. 364 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 3: Yes, it doesn't make any sense the way it's pronounced, 365 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 3: but people make mistakes when they sometimes use one word 366 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 3: mean another, and a lot of times that happens in 367 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 3: normal conversation. That's not what we're talking about here, Joe 368 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 3: Biden based on and look, the easiest way to handle 369 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 3: this would be for the Special Counsel to release the 370 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 3: transcripts or the audio recordings, because all of you could 371 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 3: then hear for yourself whether Joe Biden knows what the 372 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 3: date of his son's death is or whether he is 373 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 3: aware of when he was or was not vice president 374 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 3: of the United States. One of our VIPs, Sue, wrote 375 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 3: in and said, good morning, Clay and Buck. I lost 376 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 3: my daughter on July twenty first, twenty fifteen, and as 377 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 3: long as I live, I will never forget the day 378 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 3: she died. If Biden would remember anything, I'm pretty sure 379 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 3: his son's death would be the one thing he would remember. 380 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 2: She's right. 381 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 3: Any mom or dad out there, if you lose a child, 382 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 3: you are going to remember that heartbreaking day for the 383 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 3: rest of your life, so long as you have a 384 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 3: cognitively functioning memory. What's scary here, Buck, is not only 385 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 3: that Biden, according to Robert hur clearly committed felonies in 386 00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 3: the way that he handled the classified documents, which they 387 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,479 Speaker 3: decided was so important when it came to Trump that 388 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 3: they need to try to put. 389 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 2: Him in prison for the rest of his life. 390 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 3: To me, Buck, it is Biden is so cognitively impaired 391 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:17,439 Speaker 3: that he doesn't have the ability to be proven to 392 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:21,199 Speaker 3: have willfully done this, and so a jury would be 393 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 3: unlikely to convict him. This is damning on a level 394 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 3: that I think is still being underrated. Think about this 395 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 3: for a minute. Sometimes when you are charged with a crime. 396 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 3: We talked about history. I believe the first person to 397 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 3: successfully use the insanity defense when it came to committing 398 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 3: a murder was Daniel Sickles, who was a union general 399 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 3: at Gettysburg ended up losing his leg at that battle. Sometimes, Buck, 400 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 3: they will come out and they will say, due to insanity, 401 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 3: can't be responsible for what happened. I believe the shooter 402 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 3: of Ronald Ray in nineteen eighty you are nineteen eighty 403 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 3: one used that argument successfully. Haven't they released Hinkley? It's Hinkley, right. 404 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 3: I believe they've released him from full confinement because he 405 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 3: thought he was trying to get attention for Jody Foster. 406 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 3: He was mentally unable to understand what he was doing. 407 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 3: The Special Council set for five hours of interviews with 408 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 3: Joe Biden, and based on those five hours of interviews, 409 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 3: his reasoned legal analysis is Biden's memory and brain is 410 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 3: so flawed that nobody who saw him at trial could 411 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 3: believe he was intending to commit a crime. 412 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 7: Well, I can just tell you, Clay that Mika Brzhinski 413 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 7: over on Morning Joe disagrees with your assessment about Biden 414 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 7: at least that's what she's pretending to do. This is 415 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 7: cut eight. He says, it wasn't that bad. Basically like 416 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 7: get over yourselves, mister GOP. People play it. 417 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 11: When you look at a very bad day for President 418 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 11: Biden and then you compare it to Donald Trump with 419 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 11: ninety one counts sexual assault, fraud, sex with the porn 420 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 11: star and everything he says every day. 421 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 7: The day that. 422 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 11: President Biden had yesterday is like just another Tuesday for 423 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 11: Donald Trump with far worse things well that he's putting 424 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 11: on the table. 425 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 7: Exactly, Sonna, I'm gonna say this, and it's something that 426 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 7: I wish was not true for Democrats like Mika Brzhinski 427 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 7: and others, many many, many others, millions of them, almost 428 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 7: all of the Democrat voters. I'm just going to say it. 429 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:42,719 Speaker 7: There is nothing that they could find out about Joe Biden. 430 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 7: I mean nothing, nothing could come out about his ability, 431 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 7: about his passion, nothing. As long as he is a 432 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 7: Democrat who they believe is committed to the continuation of 433 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 7: the Democrat apparatus agenda, they will they view him as 434 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 7: an easy choice over Donald Trump. That it does not 435 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 7: change one bit. So all we all sit here and 436 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,439 Speaker 7: say Oh my gosh, it doesn't. This doesn't matter at 437 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 7: all in Democrat land. It maybe matters in with independence 438 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 7: and swing voters, which is what determines the election anyway. Right, 439 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 7: that's the thing that they have to patch up. That's 440 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 7: the challenge that they're not worth the Democrat base going 441 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 7: to vote for them. They don't care what I said 442 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 7: about the sippy cup and the blanket on the knees. 443 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 7: Everyone was commenting, gonna click because it's true. 444 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 2: It's true. 445 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 7: We all know it's true. 446 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 3: Okay, So here is where I think that becomes an issue. 447 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 3: Not in our forty percent of the American population going 448 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 3: to show up and vote for whomever the Democrat nominee is, 449 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 3: no matter what I think, what we're gonna see in 450 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 3: the way, it's forty eight percent, forty nine percent that 451 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 3: but that is with the leaners and everybody else rolled in. 452 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 3: I think there's forty percent that are like I am 453 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 3: all in on Democrats, no matter what like the part 454 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 3: is in right, I would say there's forty forty and 455 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 3: then there's two that would swing one way or the other. 456 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:02,719 Speaker 2: They tend to be allied. 457 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 3: So here here's what I would say, though, And you 458 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 3: can say forty five percent, whatever you want, nearly half 459 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 3: the country right before all is said and done, we're 460 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 3: in a fifty to fifty America. But here's what I 461 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 3: think is integral here. Prior to this Special Council report 462 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:22,360 Speaker 3: and the disastrous press conference last night, you could make 463 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 3: an argument, and I think it's probably true that of 464 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 3: every Democrat out there, Joe Biden has the best chance 465 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 3: to beat Donald Trump. 466 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 2: I think that's really what this is about. 467 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 3: They're willing to deal with anything with Biden because they 468 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 3: think he has the best chance to win. And by 469 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 3: the way, to her eternal discredit, Kamala Harris has bungled 470 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 3: what should have been the easiest pass off power transition 471 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 3: in any of our lives. Because when she took over 472 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 3: as vice president, they won billion percent thought Biden will 473 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 3: not run again. Kamala will do a decent job. She'll 474 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 3: be the pathway to the next generation. Remember they didn't 475 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 3: even argue when they were running that Biden was going 476 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 3: to run again. She's so bad that Biden is better 477 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 3: than her. What I think this has been my theory 478 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 3: for a while. I believe they're going to get the 479 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 3: numbers are going to get so bad and I think 480 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 3: the numbers with independence and swing voters in the wake 481 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 3: of this is going to get so bad that they're 482 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 3: going to start looking around and saying, we're going to 483 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 3: lose to Trump if we put forward Biden. The numbers 484 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,479 Speaker 3: I think are alarming to them already. And yes, they 485 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 3: have the hail Mary of trying to convict Trump Trump 486 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 3: with a felony and all those things, but I think 487 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 3: Biden's mental and physical weakness is a bigger story to 488 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,919 Speaker 3: swing voters than Trump's charges, and I think that's going 489 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 3: to become more and more apparent. And that's when I 490 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 3: think they have to break the glass moment. Buck, It's 491 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 3: you're right, there is a segment of the population that's 492 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 3: going to go with him. I think the Biden numbers 493 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 3: are after this going to get so bad that the 494 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 3: pressure on him to step down is going to get 495 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 3: ratcheted up. And by the way, this is without him 496 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 3: falling or without the inevitable worse statement than what happened 497 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 3: last night occurring. Biden gaffs are not going away. If anything, 498 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 3: they're going to become more prominent, and I think they're 499 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 3: going to force him out. It's a challenge, but I 500 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,880 Speaker 3: think they're going to force him out. And that's why 501 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 3: I think they don't want to go to Kamala, because 502 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,719 Speaker 3: she's worse against Biden against Trump. I think Trump, if 503 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 3: you said right now, Trump, choose your opponent, I think 504 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 3: Trump would rather run against Kamalin than Biden. I think 505 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,719 Speaker 3: she would do worse against him than Biden would. But 506 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,919 Speaker 3: that's where I think they start to put other people 507 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 3: in play, and I think we get a late sort 508 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 3: of change the horse and the jockey change, and Biden 509 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 3: ends up forced out. 510 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 7: I think if Biden's alive, he's the nominee basically. I mean, 511 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 7: I just I still don't see what. 512 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 2: Would you set the odds right now. 513 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 3: By the way, if we had the election Monday, right 514 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,120 Speaker 3: super Bowl Sunday, everybody comes out of the Super Bowl 515 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 3: and they go out to the election, how close do 516 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 3: you think Trump v. Biden would be if everybody in 517 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 3: the country was voting on Monday. 518 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 7: I mean, I think from an electoral perspective, it's a 519 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 7: landslide for Trump. I think he wins every single swing 520 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 7: state that we think of as a swing state, and 521 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,120 Speaker 7: maybe even picks off one or two more that we're 522 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 7: not even considered, like. 523 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 3: A Minnesota that we're not even really that he's never 524 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 3: won before. 525 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 7: But it's February and we have many, many months, and 526 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 7: I was just looking up in a break out of 527 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 7: curiosity what some of the races have been like in 528 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 7: the past. And Jimmy Carter was way out ahead of 529 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 7: Ronald Reagan even a month before the election, like eight 530 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 7: points at nationally. Eight points ahead got smoked in nineteen eighty. 531 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 7: So these things can change very rapidly. And I still here. 532 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 7: Here's what I would say. I would be worried. Okay, 533 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 7: I'll admit this. If all if it was clear that 534 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 7: none of the legal cases were gonna happen, and specifically 535 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 7: that j six DC case was off the table, like 536 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 7: it's not happening full stop, and Biden is where he 537 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 7: is right now, I might be concerned, Clay that I'd 538 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 7: have to buy you very expensive dinner. But I still 539 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 7: think that they believe it's close enough, the gap is 540 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 7: narrow enough even with all of this, that if they 541 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 7: can get a conviction of Donald Trump in any of 542 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 7: and it's probably gonna be the DC. When they put 543 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 7: all their eggs in the basket, they get a conviction 544 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 7: in the DC trial, and Biden gets out ahead a 545 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 7: few points in the key states and he wins. I 546 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 7: think that that is still the strategy. I don't see 547 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 7: what the other strategy. I mean, Clay, can we talk 548 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 7: about We're talking about Michelle Obama for a minute. We we 549 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 7: have like a real conversation with Michelle Obama. 550 00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 5: She was first Lady for eight years. 551 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 7: He's had no job in how many years of any kind? 552 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 7: No elected job, no private sector job, nothing. In what 553 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 7: universe is she qualified to be president of the United States? 554 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 3: Fine, I think you can make that argument. Do you 555 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 3: think black voters would show up and vote for Michelle 556 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,239 Speaker 3: Obama if Barack Obama asked him to do it? 557 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 7: Yes, But I think that white working class voters and 558 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 7: swing state voters in places like Arizona and Michigan would 559 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 7: be a lot a lot tougher self for Joe Biden. 560 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 7: And there are far more white working class voters in 561 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 7: some of the swing states than any other up for 562 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 7: grabs demographic. That's true, But I think that audience would 563 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 7: be far more likely to go for Michelle Obama than 564 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 7: they would Joe Biden. Here's a question for you, as 565 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 7: a going to break I'm gonna ask you this when 566 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 7: we come back, think. 567 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:46,719 Speaker 3: I don't know. 568 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 7: I don't know. I think a lot of assumptions getting 569 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 7: baked in here, a lot of assumptions. 570 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 3: All right, question for you, should Republicans want Joe Biden 571 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 3: to be the nominee, not to talk about him leaving. 572 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 3: I think there's a strong arm argument that everyone listening 573 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 3: to us right now should want Joe Biden as the 574 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 3: standard bear because I think he's so incredibly weaken right now. 575 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 2: Buck, I don't think he can win. I really don't. 576 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 3: And when I say that, I love your confidence, I 577 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 3: just mean his mental and physical weakness is going to 578 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 3: I think, dominate anything else. And if they actually put 579 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 3: him out on the campaign trail, it's going to get 580 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 3: accelerated and exacerbated. 581 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 1: You're listening to twenty four the Year of Impact with 582 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 1: Clay and Buck. 583 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 3: We are joined now by our friend Donald Trump Junior. 584 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 3: I imagine that yesterday was a hell of a day 585 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 3: for you as you watched all the chaos play out. 586 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 3: But I saw you had a great tweet about your 587 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 3: dad and the Super Bowl. CBS won't let him do 588 00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 3: it because it's too political. You said, let my dad 589 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 3: do it. He offered, Actually capable. He's the clear leading 590 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 3: opposition candidate and presumptive nominee, and most important, the Super 591 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 3: Bowl is not way past his bedtime. Donald Trump Junior 592 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 3: with us, Now, what did you think yesterday of the 593 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 3: Joe Biden press conference, of the chaos surrounding him? Is 594 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 3: there any way he's actually going to be the nominee? 595 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 12: You know, I find it hard to believe. I mean 596 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 12: I put out some tweets about that, like I think 597 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,719 Speaker 12: that was sort of the shot across the bow finally 598 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 12: from the Democrats saying we've had enough. 599 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 5: I mean, his own DOJ. 600 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 12: Appointed a special counsel that basically said, hey, he's guilty 601 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 12: of crimes, but I just put this guy in front 602 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 12: of a jury. No one would think he's confident or 603 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 12: capable of, you know, remembering anything or what's going on. 604 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 12: I mean, you know, that's not a great sign. I mean, 605 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 12: so he's not capable of standing trial for being reckless 606 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,239 Speaker 12: with you know, super careless. I mean, the Chinese had 607 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 12: access to the pen Biden Center. You know, Hunter and 608 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 12: his partners from all over every corrupt regime around the 609 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 12: world had access to the home. The files are stacked 610 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 12: in the garage next to the corvette. You know, that's 611 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 12: not a crime. But he's incompetent, you know, and you know, 612 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 12: but he can still have the nuclear football. I mean 613 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 12: that was really scary, and honestly, it all sort of 614 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 12: juxtaposed together because then you watched Vladimir Putin for two 615 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 12: and a half hours give a master class dissertation on 616 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 12: Russian history starting in the ninth century off the top 617 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 12: of his head, and you say, in what planet could 618 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 12: Joe Biden compete with that guy on any level? 619 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 5: You know? 620 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 12: And then that's not being a Putin apologist, that's just 621 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 12: being a realist. That's someone objectively looking, you know, at 622 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 12: the two people. One guy can't find his way off 623 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 12: at the stage, the other gives a dissertation on Russian history, 624 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 12: you know, of the off the cuff, and you start saying, like, 625 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 12: we're in serious trouble. 626 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 5: You know, we're not being. 627 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 12: Led by the best, you know. On the bright side, 628 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 12: On the bright side, I guess Trump is apparently competent 629 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 12: to rule the country because they're going to try him 630 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 12: for all sorts of crimes and put him in jail 631 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 12: for seven hundred years. So you know, that's I guess 632 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 12: that's the silver lining of all of this. So it's 633 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 12: just absolutely insane watching what's going on right now. 634 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, don it's buck, thanks for being here. It feels 635 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 7: like the Democrats are not sending us their best and 636 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 7: this is now the second time that your father will 637 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 7: be going up against a Democrat for president who committed crimes. 638 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 7: Hillary committed crimes. Everyone knows it. They said, yeah, but 639 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 7: like not going to call it a crime because it's Hillary. 640 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,800 Speaker 7: Then your dad said, for the better mint of the country, 641 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 7: I'm gonna let this go because I'm going to focus 642 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 7: on being president for the next four years. And now 643 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,280 Speaker 7: here he is running, and now another Democrat's committed crimes 644 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 7: and now this Democrat, well, I guess Hillary actually did 645 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 7: the same thing, but that's a whole other story. Trying 646 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 7: to use the law as a weapon against your dad. 647 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 7: I mean, how do you get past this stuff? And 648 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 7: just it just feels so personal and so insane. 649 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 12: Well, I mean it's personal. I know We've had this conversation. 650 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 12: You know, I always compare myself to Hunter Biden. And 651 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 12: while I understand I'm not the upstanding citizen that he is, 652 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:02,879 Speaker 12: you know, it feels like I was treated a little 653 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 12: bit disparently you know, as it relates to everything that's 654 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 12: going on, and that continues to be the case. So 655 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 12: you know, it does suck. But what the irony is 656 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 12: perhaps even greater, in that you have Joe Biden screaming 657 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 12: about fascism and all the Democrats screaming about fascism, and 658 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 12: yet they are the ones that, to a tea, are 659 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,760 Speaker 12: following the fascist playbook. I mean, they are the ones 660 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,959 Speaker 12: trying to jail, trying to silence, actually jailing. In many 661 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 12: cases they're political opposition. So they keep screaming about this 662 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 12: word fascism, but it seems as though they don't actually 663 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,319 Speaker 12: understand what it means because they are playing out the 664 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 12: fascist playbook to an absolute tee. But again, that's easy 665 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 12: to get away with when you have the entire weight 666 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 12: and force of the mainstream media pretending that you guys are. 667 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 5: You know, they're for democracy. 668 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 12: You have all of big tech suppressing, censoring, and artificially 669 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 12: boosting the Democrats while suppressing the opposition. I mean, you're 670 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 12: really living in a dystopian world. And you know that 671 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:03,319 Speaker 12: really played out yesterday watching the mental gymnastics going on 672 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 12: on you know, on Truth Today and on Twitter today. 673 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 5: You know, Democrats trying to say no. 674 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 12: No, no, Joe Biden. You know, behind closed doors, he's 675 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 12: running mental gymnastics hurdles. 676 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 5: Or hurdles around all these young Ivy League kids. 677 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 12: I'm like, so, so he's a genius is closed doors guys, 678 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 12: but he can't find his way off of the stage. 679 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 5: I mean, he used up all. 680 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 12: Of his genius each and every time behind closed doors, 681 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 12: and yet the American public, after three and a half years, 682 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,839 Speaker 12: have yet to witness one moment of genius. I mean, 683 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 12: that was what's scary. I saw, you know, with the 684 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,879 Speaker 12: Putin thing. You know, he didn't remember the last time 685 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 12: he spoke to Biden, you know, say what you want 686 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 12: about Trump. But like he got on the phone, he 687 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 12: made the phone call, and you know, rather than sort 688 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 12: of let's say, since we're a radio rather than mf 689 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 12: someone on a global. 690 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,280 Speaker 5: Stage, he said, Hey, we had a good conversation. 691 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 12: I'm not going to throw him under the bus because 692 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 12: if things go bad, I want to be able to 693 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,360 Speaker 12: make that phone call. I need to be able to 694 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:55,920 Speaker 12: make that phone call, and I need someone to be 695 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 12: receptive on the other end. 696 00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 5: Uh, it's not a pr stunt. 697 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 12: Joe Biden hasn't even thought about making this, sonkle We 698 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 12: could end this war in two seconds if Trump was 699 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,760 Speaker 12: back in there. But you know, the military industrial complex, 700 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,880 Speaker 12: Nikki Haley and the likes, they don't want it to 701 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 12: end because they're all getting rich off of it, even 702 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,760 Speaker 12: if we're just just killing people randomly in Eastern Europe 703 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 12: for the last two years. 704 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 3: We're talking to Donald Trump Junior, and I think you 705 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 3: hit on something really important. Among many statements that you 706 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 3: made here. Thanks for coming on, the Department of Justice 707 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 3: is prosecuting your dad for classified documents crimes. And clearly, 708 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 3: if they're deciding to prosecute him, they believe that he 709 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,319 Speaker 3: is super sound of mind and physically fit. 710 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 2: Because the standard for Joe Biden is he committed crimes. 711 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 3: There's no way to defend that he didn't, right, And 712 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 3: they're essentially saying, hey, because of his age and his 713 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 3: lack of intellectual capability of his I think frankly dementia, 714 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,319 Speaker 3: he's not going to be charged. To me, that's an 715 00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:01,400 Speaker 3: argument that is impossible to get passed. But if we 716 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 3: had a fan we know we don't, But if we 717 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 3: had a free and fair Department of Justice, when they 718 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 3: released this special Council report, wouldn't they have said, Okay, 719 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 3: if we're going to have this standard for Biden, we're 720 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 3: dropping all the charges as it pertains to classified documents 721 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:17,880 Speaker 3: for your dad. To me, that's an easy argument and 722 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,360 Speaker 3: that they would be obligated to do it based on 723 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:22,880 Speaker 3: the precedent they're setting for Biden. 724 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,560 Speaker 12: But like, are we still under the illusion that we 725 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,320 Speaker 12: have even some anything that even resembles free and fair 726 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:31,840 Speaker 12: you know, quote unquote democracy in our country. 727 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:33,799 Speaker 5: I mean, I understand where a constitutional republic, but that 728 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 5: doesn't seem to matter. 729 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 12: They would much rather have democracy so they can infringe 730 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,279 Speaker 12: on our rights based on the voting capabilities of the 731 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 12: millions of illegals that they're letting into the country right now. 732 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 5: I mean, that's sort of the plan. 733 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,399 Speaker 12: I mean, they shot their whole case through the foot 734 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,320 Speaker 12: because Joe Biden's is frankly much more flavored. First and foremost, 735 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,319 Speaker 12: his documents were stored loosely all over the place, right 736 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 12: in his garage. He didn't have Secret Service, he was 737 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 12: the VPY. He didn't have the ability to declassify those 738 00:38:58,640 --> 00:38:59,719 Speaker 12: documents like Trump did. 739 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 5: He was actually Trump's. 740 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,359 Speaker 12: Government who he and he had the full capabilities of 741 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 12: declassifying these documents, which he said he did. That's irrelevant 742 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:07,720 Speaker 12: to these people because they don't. 743 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 5: Care about reality, the truth, or the law. 744 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,920 Speaker 12: Joe Biden's case is much more flagrant. He didn't have 745 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,440 Speaker 12: any of the abilities that Trump had. And yet it 746 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 12: doesn't matter. We're gonna get a going because you know, 747 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:20,880 Speaker 12: he's a well meaning guy with dementia, Like, you know, 748 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:22,879 Speaker 12: it's no big deal. But jury would they feel bad 749 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:24,760 Speaker 12: for him? I mean that's basically how he got elected. 750 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,880 Speaker 12: You look at him and say, ah, you know, he 751 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 12: may be an imbecile, but I don't hate him. You 752 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:30,839 Speaker 12: feel bad for him, like you're not gonna go kick 753 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 12: an old dog. You know, it was different with Hillary. 754 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,760 Speaker 12: Everyone could hate Hillary. You know, Democrats could hate Hillary 755 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 12: like she was she was one of the least likable 756 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 12: people anywhere in the world. 757 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:42,800 Speaker 5: So it was different. 758 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 12: That was the whole thing with Joe bidden And they're 759 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 12: gonna try to do this, They're gonna try to run 760 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,479 Speaker 12: on you there as an old people guy. Or again, 761 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 12: as I said when we started talking, this was the 762 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,840 Speaker 12: shot across the bow. The Democrats are gonna play their games. 763 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 12: They're gonna put in whoever they want at a at 764 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 12: a time that's a little bit more fitting. 765 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,120 Speaker 5: They're gonna use this excuse. 766 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:01,879 Speaker 12: Get rid of the guy that they know can't win 767 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,520 Speaker 12: because the American public. You can't hide from this anymore. 768 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,919 Speaker 12: You know, you can run a basement campaign in twenty 769 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 12: twenty and blame COVID. 770 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:09,759 Speaker 5: You can. 771 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 7: Hey, hey, don we're coming to the end of the 772 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,279 Speaker 7: hour here. I just want to ask you quick, Donald. 773 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,319 Speaker 7: We only got about thirty seconds. How's your dad doing? 774 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 7: I mean, with all this stuff going on. Last time 775 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 7: we saw him, he was his usual self. He was 776 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,960 Speaker 7: great energy. Send us some milkshakes. How's he handling all this? 777 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:29,880 Speaker 5: Honestly, he's doing well. He's just gotten used to it. 778 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:31,040 Speaker 5: His whole life has always. 779 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,720 Speaker 12: Been pressure, right, so he does well under pressure. 780 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 5: But you know he understands what it is. He could 781 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:36,880 Speaker 5: have stopped, He could have you know, packed it up 782 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:37,719 Speaker 5: after twenty twenty. 783 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:39,440 Speaker 12: They would have left him alone. You know, we all 784 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,920 Speaker 12: understand how that would work. But what we're fighting for 785 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:43,719 Speaker 12: is far too critical. You know, he doesn't need this 786 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:45,880 Speaker 12: job or the headaches, but he's doing it because he 787 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 12: actually believes in what this country stands for. And if 788 00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,759 Speaker 12: someone doesn't fight now, we're not going to recognize this 789 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:51,880 Speaker 12: country in a couple of years. 790 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 7: Donald Trump Junior, everybody don come back again, Sue Man, 791 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 7: thanks for making the time. 792 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:57,879 Speaker 5: Thanks guys, be well.