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Speaker 1: Yes, it's time. Hell no Lo Lo Loelo. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the Naughty but Night Show't your host, Rob Shooter. It's

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Speaker 1: Thursday morning. Normally, our dear friend Mark Lupo joins us

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Speaker 1: every Thursday. In fact, he very rarely misses a show.

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Speaker 1: Even when he's traveling home to see his family, he

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Speaker 1: takes his microphone. However, he's not with us today. Some Mark,

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Speaker 1: I know, I think you're going to LA. I think

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Speaker 1: he's on his way to LA right now. I think

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Speaker 1: he's on a flight. If Mark could figure out a

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Speaker 1: way to record the show on the plane, that trusts

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Speaker 1: me he would do so. And Mark, I want you

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Speaker 1: to know that we are grateful for that. Don't ever

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Speaker 1: think we take you for granted. We're going to miss

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Speaker 1: you today. But don't worry, Naughty's We've got a ton

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Speaker 1: of gossip to get to. What time is it? My friends?

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Speaker 1: It is tea time big story at the show. So

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Speaker 1: we love to know about what people earn. We might

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Speaker 1: not like talking about money, but be honest, we all

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Speaker 1: like to know. Well, Pete Davidson from Saturday Night Live

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Speaker 1: is now revealing what they all got paid. So comedian

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Speaker 1: Pete has dropped a bombshell about the salaries of Saturday

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Speaker 1: Night Live cast members, which has left fans stunned. Pete

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Speaker 1: revealed that the cast members each earn like three grand

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Speaker 1: an episode. So let me break this down for you.

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Speaker 1: With SNL season, it typically is eighteen to twenty two episodes,

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Speaker 1: so they don't do fifty two episodes. It's not on

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Speaker 1: sixty six thousand a year, a figure that pales in

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Speaker 1: comparison to the show's glitzy reputation. Pete was asked what

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Speaker 1: was his first big splurge after he got paid, and

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Speaker 1: he said, I think I got dinner. Well, let's do

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Speaker 1: a big picture though here. So I hit the phones

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Speaker 1: and I asked my sources, is this right, and they said, yes,

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Speaker 1: it is. All My TV inside has said, there's a

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Speaker 1: myth on television that everybody on television earns hundreds and

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Speaker 1: These huge numbers just not true. It wasn't true at all.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I think the entire first season of the

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Speaker 1: Real Housewives of New York the cast made between seven

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Speaker 1: When I was on the VH one Morning Show hosting

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Speaker 1: five hundred dollars an episode. And get this, I got

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Speaker 1: other cast members were certainly getting less than five hundred

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Speaker 1: reality shows that they earned millions of dollars. That's not

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Speaker 1: earning about the same as the real Housewives. But let

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Speaker 1: me help put this into a little bit of perspective here.

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Speaker 1: Source has told me that despite the very modest paychecks,

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Speaker 1: SNL serves as a launching pad for countless comedy icons,

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Speaker 1: and it's still still thought of as the premieer comedy

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Speaker 1: or paid advertisement deals, all that stuff really increases here.

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Speaker 1: So it's almost like an investment in yourself when you

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Speaker 1: audition for SNL. It's not for the money. Nobody gets

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Speaker 1: When do I start? And so if you don't have

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Speaker 1: first celebrity clients was Monica Lewinsky. Yes I swear now,

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Speaker 1: And so once again, next time somebody pretends that they

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Speaker 1: Our question is very simple, do they deserve more? Go

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Speaker 1: to hear your results. Okay, moving along, One Direction has

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Speaker 1: Liam's passing was a wake up call for them, adding

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Speaker 1: that while the group remained loosely in touch, and that's

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Speaker 1: out on. They became superstars together. They became very, very rich, together.

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Speaker 1: They have experiences that nobody else, almost nobody else in

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