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Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I almost famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with our radio. Actually, there is a lot to talk

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Speaker 1: about today. Are you ready for this? I'm stoked, dude.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be awesome Ashley. There's a lot of hot topics.

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Speaker 1: We also have a whole episode to break down, and

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Speaker 1: we have a really special guest who I believe, uh,

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Speaker 1: whose life's changed quite a bit here in the last year.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm yep. We have Cordy Robertson coming on to

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Speaker 1: talk about her baby and very new marriage. And we

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Speaker 1: also have a Bachelor super fan and Gray's Anatomy alum,

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Speaker 1: Marika doman Check. Uh. Let's start out by saying, this

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Speaker 1: episode of the Bachelorette was one that I actually didn't

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Speaker 1: want to end, Like I was like, how many more

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Speaker 1: minutes do I have left? Oh? I only have twenty

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Speaker 1: more minutes left, Like I was really just wanting it

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Speaker 1: to be longer and longer. That means we have a

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Speaker 1: lot to talk about today. Uh, it's gonna say that

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Speaker 1: we'll save that for Marika. And now I would love

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Speaker 1: to get into hot topics because we've got some juicy ones.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with this one. This has been a bachel

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Speaker 1: Nation headline all week long. Yes, we saw in the

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Speaker 1: first episode a little disagreement between Tyler Ce and Joseph. Well,

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Speaker 1: as the weeks have continued, Joseph has continued to be

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Speaker 1: a storyline on the show, but he's also making stories

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Speaker 1: off of the show. Here's the headline. TikTok video spark

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Speaker 1: rumors about Bachelorette villain Joseph This according to The New

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Speaker 1: York Post. You could also just go on TikTok and

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Speaker 1: see what was posted by Carly Hammond on October. She

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Speaker 1: is the woman that, well allegedly but like pretty much

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Speaker 1: that Tyler C was alleging that Joseph was dating back

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Speaker 1: home right before The Bachelorette started filming. So this woman, Carly,

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Speaker 1: she gets on her TikTok and she says that she

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Speaker 1: had been facetiming talking for hours with Joseph, speaking about

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Speaker 1: one day and then um, he came to visit her,

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of comments and a lot of opinions

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Speaker 1: about this story, right, but can we just say that

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Speaker 1: this timeline feels a little off, like we're talking about

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Speaker 1: a family and kids together, and then he comes to

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Speaker 1: visit Like I was like, then, why are you laughing?

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Speaker 1: And then I was like, oh yeah, okay, so all

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Speaker 1: those conversations happened before they even met face to face. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, like, that's not my style. But we'll continue

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Speaker 1: with her story here. So she says that he did

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Speaker 1: come to visit her in person, and oh he was visiting.

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Speaker 1: So while he was visiting, she ends up getting a

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Speaker 1: video to her phone of him. We may have to

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Speaker 1: beat this out because we are pretty much a PGPG

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Speaker 1: thirteen podcast. Um, he was being off in this video

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Speaker 1: And then she also posted another TikTok showing messages that, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, dirty messages from from Yosef or allegedly Yosa

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Speaker 1: him out on having sent this dirty video. To another woman,

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Speaker 1: like as if like you could just erase their relationship.

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Speaker 1: let's start here. Now. I have been proved time and

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Speaker 1: time again that I'm out of touch with the common,

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Speaker 1: And I don't think this is as big as story. Actually,

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Speaker 1: in this episode between Joseph and Claire where he calls

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Speaker 1: He's constantly throwing out the I have a daughter card.

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Speaker 1: So Carly Hammond's her first name is Carly, right her

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Speaker 1: her TikTok's blew up. They went viral. I mean they're everywhere.

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Speaker 1: just a rough scenario for for Tyler Cee. The poor

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Speaker 1: out there, Joseph of you doing things to yourself and like,

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Speaker 1: have to mention bachelor atte. Claire Crawley fires back. It

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Speaker 1: claims she lied about not attending prom. This according to

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Speaker 1: Crawley too. Senior prom. At Claire Crawley, you went to prom.

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Speaker 1: Hashtag bachelorette, hashtag Claire Crawley, hashtag senior ball. She wanted

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Speaker 1: and she also continued to say, um, Claire went to

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Speaker 1: speak like Claire Claire is a public figure. You were

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Speaker 1: there's more dances in high school that are not prom.

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Speaker 1: Why is she keeping her husband's old dance photos? I'm

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Speaker 1: can see how this happened. Okay, find you're right. I

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Speaker 1: can see you're right. If Jared went to prom with Wow,

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Speaker 1: well you had to go with Olivia, the most beautiful

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Speaker 1: that part isn't concerning. I'm just saying, hey, be careful

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Speaker 1: get some last of my friends. Whatever. Well the story,

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Speaker 1: it's just now it's like, okay's calming down and it's

426
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 1: just really exciting and pretty easy. Did you have anything

427
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 1: with the wedding planned? Um? Was there any alterations that

428
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 1: you had to make make to the wedding or was

429
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 1: this the way you planned it? Pretty much? I mean

430
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:32,639
Speaker 1: we were like, should just go down to the courthouse,

431
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,200
Speaker 1: but we had already paid for pretty much everything in

432
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 1: deposits and everything was nonrefundable, so I was like, I

433
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 1: don't want to leave money on the table. We had

434
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 1: a hundred people originally on our guest lists we already

435
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 1: sent out to save the days. Um, so we just

436
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 1: started scaling it back. I mean, we have some high

437
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 1: risk people in our family, and we end up doing

438
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 1: our first looks in the chapel my parents got married

439
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 1: at but small, I mean like thirty people can fit

440
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 1: in there. Really, let's not cram a bunch of people

441
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,199
Speaker 1: in a small space. So we moved outside and then

442
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 1: we actually got married on that terrorist so people were

443
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,880
Speaker 1: exceeded comfortable and we just we did all the safety precautions.

444
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,199
Speaker 1: You know, this is UH has actually mentioned this has

445
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 1: been a crazy you know, a couple of years for you,

446
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 1: but especially the last six months obviously now you are married,

447
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: but you also just had a child. What queen, what

448
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 1: is motherhood? Like? Oh my gosh, it's everything I thought

449
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 1: it would be. And then some um it's like they say,

450
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 1: like the grunch, like your heart just grows like three sizes. Um,

451
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:42,159
Speaker 1: It's definitely has its challenges, but it's been it's just

452
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:46,439
Speaker 1: been amazing. I'm just savoring every every little milestone, like

453
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 1: he's starting to sit up and he's sleeping really good.

454
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 1: So that's good because because as we talk right now,

455
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 1: while Keen is hold, he is four months old, alright, awesome,

456
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 1: and he has a Dodgers uh jersey on which her

457
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 1: to my heart. But he is a good looking kid,

458
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 1: really good looking boy. Yeah, he's so, he's playful, he's

459
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,919
Speaker 1: got like a really good nature. Um, he's a Gemini.

460
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,679
Speaker 1: Was born in juneteenth. I actually saw back up that

461
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 1: Martinez had a baby the same day, a couple of

462
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 1: days early. We really wanted to cancer baby, but became

463
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 1: he was a perfect gentleman delivery with smooth. I mean,

464
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 1: you just you don't know what you don't know. So

465
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 1: I mean with the pandemic and having the labor in

466
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:32,160
Speaker 1: a mask. Um, it's definitely knowing that he's in the world.

467
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 1: I guess I'll say this like I will probably never

468
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 1: sleep the same again. You know, he's just like just

469
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:43,919
Speaker 1: like you had to labor in a mask. Yeah, that's

470
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 1: really rough. Luckily I didn't have to like go for

471
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 1: too long. Like you hear these horror stories about people

472
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 1: like laboring for days and uh it was limited space.

473
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 1: It must have been like a full moon Friday kind

474
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,679
Speaker 1: of sitch, but thank god I got my epidural. I

475
00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 1: was laboring. They didn't have a room for me for

476
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 1: a while, so, um, we're a'mbared to. He was like, oh,

477
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 1: so hard to watch. It's so uncomfortable until you get

478
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 1: is there anybody else allowed in the room. I don't

479
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 1: know the restrictions when it comes to having a job.

480
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 1: But was he able to be there beside you during

481
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,679
Speaker 1: the whole pregnancy. Yeah? Yeah, Umberto was allowed to be

482
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 1: there and he had a mask on um and he

483
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: did so good. I mean I was really working at

484
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 1: a breath towards the end, and he was like I

485
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:25,640
Speaker 1: could just hear him in the ear, like keep going,

486
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: keep going. And I felt like they were It's like

487
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 1: l A. I was like, compared to l A traffic,

488
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:31,719
Speaker 1: you know when people are like I'll be there in

489
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: five minutes and you have their house saying like you

490
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,439
Speaker 1: know he's gonna be here, He's on his way, and

491
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 1: I was like thinking like yeah, right, yeah, right, And

492
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden he's in the world. It's

493
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 1: like you get goose and what's What's something about motherhood

494
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 1: that had surprised you? Um, let's see I think like

495
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: the U but like the instincts are natural, like because

496
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 1: you don't know what to expect, and like I hired

497
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,479
Speaker 1: like a sleep coach to come in and help us

498
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:05,120
Speaker 1: the first couple of weeks and just learning like how

499
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 1: to be with him and like they need to learn

500
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: the difference between night and day. And we've been happy, happy,

501
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 1: and but yeah, that's been refreshing. I guess you know,

502
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 1: I've heard I listened to your podcast regularly and you

503
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 1: guys talking about coming parents. I love it. Yeah, And

504
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: it's like you just you don't know what to expect,

505
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 1: and I've been pleasantly surprised at like just like you

506
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 1: kind of know what to do. Not all the time,

507
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: but it does come naturally. That's good to know, not

508
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 1: just google it. We're always like I'm like, oh my god,

509
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: you said something super interesting, um that I haven't stopped

510
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: thinking about. You said now that what keens in the world,

511
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: you're never going to be able to sleep the same.

512
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: Why is that It's just like I have this little

513
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: person to like, I mean, he can't speak for himself,

514
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: and I just need to take care of him, and

515
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 1: and you know, it's just it's like probably like your

516
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 1: parents feel like when you travel or you're nervous. It's

517
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,959
Speaker 1: just one of those things. He's always up to the

518
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: top of mine. But it also creates a little anxiety

519
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: for me too, And like with the woking and navigating,

520
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 1: like a lot of my friends haven't met him, or

521
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: like people coming to the house and like, you know,

522
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: do you tell them to put a mask on? And

523
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 1: like for me, it's like that's where I'm like my voice.

524
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: I need to really step up and protect them. You know.

525
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: Can you talk about your wedding day for a little

526
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: bit more. I just want to know about how emotional

527
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: it is. Can you paint the picture of the day

528
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 1: for us? Where it was the setting? Because I see

529
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: the People magazine photos and you guys just look stunning.

530
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: Thank you. Well, Um, so it was in Arizona. I

531
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 1: don't know if you guys have been there, but it's

532
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: like a super special place to me. My parents got

533
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 1: married there forty years ago, and um it's about a

534
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 1: two hour drive from where we live. So for me,

535
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: it was like I grew up going there and hiking

536
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: and we wanted a place to where we could go

537
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 1: just for a day trip, like every on our anniversary um, so, yeah,

538
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: that was It was nice and his family came. It

539
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 1: was just my immediate family. A couple of my cousins

540
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: couldn't come. Um, so it just was adults and five kids,

541
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 1: and it was it worked out that the day was

542
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: emotional for me obviously, I you know, walked my mom

543
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 1: and that was really heavy for me, um, And that's

544
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 1: part of the reason why we moved it out of

545
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 1: the chapel. We did our first looks in there, but

546
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 1: it just as the day approached, it just got to

547
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 1: be too heavy and for my dad too. So but

548
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: the music things went wrong. Like I'm like, I've learned,

549
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: like maybe not as detail oriented as I would like

550
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 1: to be the wedding planning, like the correspondence and you know,

551
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 1: all the details. But the day of like things went

552
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 1: wrong and I just kind of had to have some

553
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: grace and just we just wanted it to be some

554
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 1: a day that we'll always remember. I'm so sorry about

555
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 1: your mom. I remember seeing it on Instagram and so

556
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: it was so sad for you. Um. Did she get

557
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 1: to meet Humberto before she passed? No, And that was

558
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: really hard for me for sure. That was hard, but

559
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 1: he was right there by my side, and um, yeah,

560
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: like he came, I mean, to be new in a

561
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: relationship and go through that is you know, he's just

562
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: been like my rock. So yeah, really it's a really

563
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 1: good gray. Now where is he from? Uh? Is he

564
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: from Arizona as well? Yeah, so he grew up here

565
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: and then he went to law school in New York

566
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 1: and I was actually modeling at the time living there,

567
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: So we lived in New York at the same time.

568
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: We've just kind of been passing ships. It's beautiful. How

569
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: did you guys meet? Remind me know you told us,

570
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 1: but yeah, we're fresher memories please. So he had liked

571
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: a couple of photos of mine on Instagram and I idem,

572
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 1: but there'd be old like where do I know he from?

573
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 1: And I really thought I knew him a friend of mine,

574
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: an old friend of mine, had dated him once ten

575
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: years ago, so his name is pretty unique. So I

576
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 1: was like where do I I mean, there was some

577
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 1: truth to it, and then he was like, I remember

578
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 1: if I met you? And we went out a few

579
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: days later and it was pretty pretty instent for me,

580
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,959
Speaker 1: like just which I didn't know if I'd have that feeling.

581
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: I was starting to lose hope and you know, you

582
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: know dating and actually you know I saw you. I

583
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 1: was kind of like open minded or whatnot, but kind

584
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: of and now I feel for people dating in this pandemic.

585
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: I got a nice message on Instagram the other day,

586
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: so I'm a girl saying like I'm keeping my Instagram

587
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: open because of you. I'm thirty five and single, and

588
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: I hear a lot of that and I'm like, just

589
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: like that photo, you know, just I know Ben that

590
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 1: time too, So yeah, it's the same way I met

591
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: Jess as I messaged her. So I'm yeah, I'm not

592
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: against it. I think it's a great idea. Yeah, be

593
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 1: bold out there. Who cares, Like what works. The worst

594
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: is going to happen. They're not going to respond or

595
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: they're not going to be into it whatever. Unsend messages

596
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: too and honest fully and he doesn't believe me. I

597
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: hear him and they're playing so cute. Um. This was

598
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 1: the first time ever DM I like I swear Bible,

599
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: like I just like I'm gonna take a chance. I

600
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: was ready to put myself out there and it was

601
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: beginner's luck maybe, but like I hadn't messaged. I mean,

602
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: I don't know the exact number, but it's not like

603
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: more than three girls that I had. Doesn't seem like

604
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 1: a guy that just slides into Yeah, I hadn't um

605
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: and I was actually encouraged by my buddies to do it.

606
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: So like, here's the truth. You do it on the

607
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: first try. Let's say mine is like the second try,

608
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 1: maybe third, Like, here's the here's the warning. Be careful.

609
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: If you're really looking for a partner and you message

610
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 1: somebody on Instagram, the chances of it working out long

611
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:43,479
Speaker 1: term are fairly high, so be aware. I think so,

612
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: I think the Yeah, I like that. Like that well, Corney, Uh,

613
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: it's really great to catch up with you and from

614
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 1: the whole podcast team here and then the people listening. Uh,

615
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: it's obvious you have just like dove head first into

616
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: motherhood in the coolest of ways. Uh. I wish everybody

617
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: could see like you holding your child because I know

618
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: they would just get a picture of how much you

619
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 1: love him and uh, just how awesome it is that

620
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: you are raising life into this world. So thank you

621
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 1: for coming on, thank you for sharing some time with us.

622
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 1: We'll let you get back to playing UM as a

623
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 1: family out in the living room, which you know, as

624
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 1: you said, they're doing right now. Yeah, I know. I

625
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 1: love that's like the best sound in the world just

626
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: hearing them. I'm so happy for you. This is this

627
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: has been an amazing story to watch. Well, actually, thank you.

628
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: I'm happy for you than to thank you. I can't

629
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 1: wait for you when you're ready. If you ever need

630
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: any kids, I think, because that's also been really nice.

631
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: Just like how embrace, I've been like welcomed into the

632
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: motherhood club. I love that. I definitely will reach out

633
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 1: yes anytime. Well, thank you guys so much. Thank you

634
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:56,359
Speaker 1: by Actuley. As we were as we're closing up here

635
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 1: with Courtney, we were talking about this. There's been a

636
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: lot of babies being born into Bachelor Nation here recently.

637
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: I mean it's crazy, I know, so crazy. A lot

638
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 1: of life in this world. Hey, let's take a break here.

639
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: When we come back, we are going to break down

640
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 1: this week's episode with a Bachelor super fan. We'll be

641
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: back on the Almost podcast. Okay, guys, we've got Marika

642
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: dom and check on the podcast. She is. She's a

643
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 1: very well known actress from Gray's Anatomy, Brothers and Sisters,

644
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: north Shore. The help forty year old virgin and right

645
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 1: now you're calling us from you and your husband, Scott

646
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 1: FOLI are big move during the pandemic. That's always fun,

647
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 1: is that where you guys are from? Who? Who's from? Nobody?

648
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: I was born in Poland and raised in Brooklyn, and

649
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 1: my whole family is in New Jersey and New York work.

650
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 1: And we've been in l A. I've been there seventeen years,

651
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 1: he's been there thirty and it was just time and

652
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: we have planned the move before a pandemic, and then

653
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: pandemic hit and we did it anywhere because it's just

654
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,760
Speaker 1: close enough to New York, New Jersey to my family,

655
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 1: but just far away enough from New York, New Jersey. Perfect,

656
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: and it's beautiful and we can still work, you know.

657
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 1: It's really close to the city, like no problem to

658
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: go to New York City to Manhattan to work. And

659
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 1: it's good. It's just nice more suburbs for the children.

660
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: We have three kids, so so nice. I met you

661
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: at the I Heart Awards I Heard Music Festival last

662
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: year and we talked about The Bachelor and we had

663
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 1: no filter when we talked about and all the characters

664
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: from it. So let's stay with that theme while we

665
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: recap this third episode of Claire's season, starting with Yosef.

666
00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 1: Give us all your thoughts about this scene with Yosef out.

667
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 1: I feel like Joseph tried to like play the same

668
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 1: the dad card, and I was just not feeling it

669
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: at all because like, as a mom and I have

670
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 1: a husband, we have three kids, Like you left your

671
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: kid to be on this show to be with Claire,

672
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 1: So like then you can't turn it around and say

673
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: she doesn't have class and this and that. I'm like,

674
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 1: do you not know what you signed on for? Like,

675
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 1: like she doesn't have kids, she's free, She's she's going

676
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 1: to look like you like paused your life. Yes, So

677
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 1: who's He's been all over the headlines this week too?

678
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 1: I mean we just broke it down at the beating

679
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: of the episode with kind of his history, and it

680
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 1: feels like every week up until this point when obviously

681
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: he says goodbye, Joseph has been like I feel like

682
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: we never got to see him fully villainized, Like he

683
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 1: was always close and like I think he could have

684
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 1: like self destructed himself, but I feel like him leaving

685
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: early was his best move to not make a fool

686
00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:00,760
Speaker 1: of himself anymore. Are you talking about? He was a fool.

687
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 1: I don't think you can get worse than what he did.

688
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: He dragged this on for two more weeks. It's worse

689
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 1: than it was just for three weeks. So I feel

690
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 1: like he knew that it was going crantastic for him,

691
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: so he was like, Oh, I'm gonna be I'm going

692
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,399
Speaker 1: to send myself out before she kicks me out. It

693
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 1: was like, this was like tell you know, he had

694
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 1: like zero self esteem. But then usually when that happens,

695
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: he acts like big man, you know, and I'm like,

696
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:31,240
Speaker 1: where is this confidence coming from you? He seemed prideful

697
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 1: that he had the villain narrative. It was like he

698
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: was leaning in completely to being that guy. He didn't

699
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 1: even have like any you know, how normally did they

700
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: try to backtrack and save themselves. He was like, no,

701
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 1: no saving, I'm not going to even try to make

702
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: what I just said seem more gentle. I'm going to

703
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: fully lean in and just repeat myself over and over again.

704
00:38:56,080 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 1: He's just so unattractive. Attitude and everything altogether there made

705
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 1: it just so like smartie. He's been so smarty to me,

706
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: you know, like what like why why are you there?

707
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,359
Speaker 1: Like I don't know what his intentions were. That chick

708
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: is crazy, she's love her, I love watching her. Or man,

709
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: I can't hear you high Scott. Do you watch the

710
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: show with Marie? Oh? Yeah, we watched it all fantastic.

711
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 1: We're having a discussion right now. Ben thinks Joseph could

712
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: have stuck around a few more weeks and been even

713
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 1: more villainous. It could there be such a thing. Yeah, absolutely,

714
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 1: I think I think you're right, Ben. And and here's

715
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: why he decided to blow it all up in one

716
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 1: sort of fell swoop, right, he could have dold that

717
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: hate out over three or four more episodes. Stuck around,

718
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 1: he could have gotten some guys on his side because

719
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,919
Speaker 1: she is not sort of playing your typical bachelorette role,

720
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: and he really could have druged that out. I'm with you, man,

721
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 1: it must just be us. I think we're alone on

722
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: this thought here between the two women. But I I'm

723
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: with you. I think he could have gone off a

724
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 1: lot worse. Now. It was bad, don't get me wrong,

725
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 1: it was bad, but like, give me two more weeks

726
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: of how bad that was that guy has it's a

727
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 1: lot worse looking. Yeah, look with her behavior, uh, and

728
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: you know who knows where things are gonna go. What

729
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 1: do you mean her behavior? Look, look, I'm I am.

730
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 1: I am a romantic. I'm gonna get on my knees here.

731
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 1: I'm a romantic at heart, all right, I believe in love.

732
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 1: But the premise of this show, good or Bad, is

733
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: to string people along. Right, You've got a whole group

734
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: of people. You can't choose one person in the first

735
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 1: week or the second week. Then what you end up

736
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 1: doing is what she's done, which is unfortunately alienating the

737
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: rest of the guys and building up this, uh, this

738
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 1: sense of distrust and uh, you know, they were all

739
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 1: sort of loyal to her without any reason to be

740
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:57,839
Speaker 1: at the beginning, except of the fact she's the bachelor.

741
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 1: I love you, good to see you. Guess we talked

742
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 1: about it last night. I'm like, we just steal everything

743
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But because we love the batch, we love

744
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: you guys. But going off of what Scott was saying,

745
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: I think that because she's not behaving in the prototypical

746
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: lead way, that it's creating a much more entertaining season

747
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: for us. I don't know about that, because you kind

748
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: of like, if you know, I mean listen. I rewatched

749
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: right now, just the last half hour. Again, the amount

750
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: of times she talks about Dale. She literally is like

751
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 1: I would have spoke with him last night. I wish

752
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:38,919
Speaker 1: he was here on this day. I can't stop thinking

753
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,320
Speaker 1: about him, like we got it, we got it. He's hot,

754
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: He's definitely, definitely a good looking man. He really is.

755
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: Does he like her and Jerry's out for me? I

756
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: cannot tell. I cannot tell anything with him. He is

757
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 1: like one emotion across the board, that pretty smile, and

758
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 1: then I have not seen him go any levels, any

759
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 1: levels of like any any emotions, So I don't know

760
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: if he likes her or if he just likes make

761
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: an out with her. Okay, here's my thoughts on that.

762
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: I kind of drank the Dale kool aid this episode,

763
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: Like I was kind of like, Okay, I'm gonna throw

764
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: caution into the wind and totally ship these two. I

765
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:21,240
Speaker 1: really like the way that he behaved once Josef left screaming, um,

766
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 1: I didn't like the other guy's approach for like I'm

767
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 1: so heated right now, like they're all puffing up their chest.

768
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: I really liked his approach, the way he gently came

769
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: up to her. Of course that was like producer lead.

770
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: They were like, oh, you can go walk over to

771
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:39,280
Speaker 1: Claire now. Um, but I I'm trying to lean into

772
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 1: them being together. However, I wonder if he would have

773
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: all these all these moves and all this sweet dalenus

774
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: would exist no matter who the lead was. That's what

775
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I don't know who. You don't know who

776
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: he is. He could be like that with any Maybe

777
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: he just wants to win, you know, he's an athlete

778
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 1: x athlete. Maybe he's just like wants to be the winner,

779
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: who loves to be the front runner, like it's a competition.

780
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: He's there. I'm not saying he doesn't like her. Obviously

781
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,959
Speaker 1: they have physical chemistry, you know, but I just don't

782
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 1: feel it like in other seasons and stuff when two

783
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 1: people connect, like you feel it more. It like, I

784
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 1: just don't feel it. For whatever reason. I know she's

785
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 1: been completely infatuated. I mean she calls him her fiance

786
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: to the producer when she's like walking away, She's like,

787
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 1: these guys are dog in my fiance family. Girl, you

788
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: did not even have a one on one with him.

789
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 1: I'm with you. It just seems fishy, like either she's

790
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 1: just crazy infatuated he's so hot in real life that

791
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: she's like, oh my god, that loves you, or they

792
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 1: secretly were talking, or their relationship is something already established

793
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 1: because she had no problem talking to every single dude

794
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 1: talking about Dale. Dale said about me like eighth grades that, like,

795
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: oh did you hear this? What do you say? What

796
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,800
Speaker 1: do you say? What is it? What? What is it?

797
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,879
Speaker 1: Reta I was gonna say. I mean, that's one thing

798
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: we've always known about Claire is you know, with even

799
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 1: like when her games, we were on it with her,

800
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: like with ben Wa or like somebody, like she's very passionate.

801
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 1: Like passionate is a word I'd use to described Claire

802
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: and I. I want to go back and listen to

803
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: a couple of our podcasts. I bet when Claire has

804
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: announced that the Bachelor at we had predicted just knowing her,

805
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,800
Speaker 1: that something like this could easily happen with her because

806
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 1: she is passionate and she's very committed, and she puts

807
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: her sights on something, she goes after it. Now here's

808
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: the problem with picking one and isolating them. Though the

809
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 1: love story part I can kind of get behind. It's

810
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: like that sweet and that's nice, and you found your love.

811
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: I get that when she's saying, hey, you can get

812
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 1: mad at that, but you can't get mad at love.

813
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:42,720
Speaker 1: The problem is we only get four weeks of a season.

814
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 1: At the end. I like that at the end, I

815
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 1: like that. I like that when like ten guys are

816
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: gone or seven guys are gone, and then it's narrow

817
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: down and then you can see the spark and then

818
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 1: you know because at that point, right towards the end,

819
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: you're like invested in other people, and even if they're

820
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 1: not the one, you don't want to hurt their feelings.

821
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 1: It's a little bit of finesse to how you treat

822
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: the other contestants. So there's zero pests for her. She

823
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 1: like could give too they get mad at her all.

824
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 1: She wants to talk about Dale, so it kind of

825
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 1: makes it. I was so happy when some of the

826
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 1: guys were like to bs, like why am I here?

827
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 1: You know, that's a good point when you say that,

828
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 1: they end up caring about them for the person they

829
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 1: are feeling, even though you're not the one. I know

830
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: I'm not picking you, but like, at this point, I

831
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: feel like I'll feel a little gross if I'm not

832
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 1: nice to you. At this point, all her eggs are

833
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:43,720
Speaker 1: in one basket and it's crazy obvious. So it also

834
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: makes it, you know, it's the weirdest at the weirdest

835
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: season ever because the pandemic and the way that's set up,

836
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,399
Speaker 1: and they're all you know, isolated with each other and

837
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,959
Speaker 1: like at like kinda and like everything is just right there.

838
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: So it must be so weird for these dudes to

839
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: like feel like she's just like nothing, doesn't care about

840
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: any Can you name one other person you think she likes.

841
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 1: I honestly don't know if I can name many other

842
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: people from the season. I've watched every episode. There's just

843
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: no main characters like right now, like there's kind of them,

844
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 1: but there's like nobody that we're like, oh my gosh,

845
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 1: that really liked her. I could I thought that he

846
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 1: liked her, and I cannot believe that she just like

847
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 1: kicked him out because of an awkward second. We got

848
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 1: to talk about that. Let's take one break here. When

849
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 1: we come back, we're gonna continue to break down this

850
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 1: episode of the Bachelor. Yes, it's wild, there's a lot

851
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 1: to talk about. We'll be back with the almost famous podcast. Okay,

852
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 1: Zach was the guy that I picked Jeff based on

853
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 1: pictures and months months ago, not when we saw the

854
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 1: full and final you know, October premier cast. But I

855
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 1: predicted him to win the whole the guy that she

856
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: eliminated because they liked her though, but he like he

857
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:07,839
Speaker 1: seemed like he liked her, and I didn't. I didn't

858
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:09,879
Speaker 1: get that. I watched that part twice too. I didn't

859
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: see him push her away, like I don't know what

860
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 1: her deal was in that second of like, oh my god,

861
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: he pushed me right, and now I like not feeling things.

862
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 1: Really I watched it twice two and I was like, oh,

863
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 1: that really was as awkward as she acted, Like he

864
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: did not go you know the Hits rule you're supposed

865
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: to go like she went in for it went in

866
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 1: zero percent. He was holding her hands. I don't know.

867
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 1: It was just the whole thing. It was a weird

868
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 1: thing to send some one home over unless you're in

869
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 1: love with somebody else already, so you don't give you

870
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 1: I think this is this is a big topic though,

871
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 1: because there was you know, she was uncomfortable, Like the

872
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 1: reason she sent him home wasn't just the kissing. I

873
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: get it, she said, She felt unsafe and she doesn't

874
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 1: want to go there and talk about it. And it

875
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 1: just she got a bad vibe. Like I get that

876
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:56,359
Speaker 1: she got a bad vibe, so it was out. I

877
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 1: just couldn't see it as an audience member like I couldn't.

878
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 1: I didn't see it. You know. I think we're not

879
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,919
Speaker 1: taking into consideration the vibes that Claire got from Zack.

880
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: I'm thinking that we need to just trust Claire's decision

881
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: on eliminating Zack when she did. It goes beyond an

882
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 1: awkward kiss. It was the fact that he tried to

883
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 1: pull her back multiple times after the failed kiss that

884
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 1: she felt triggered by. He made her feel uncomfortable, and

885
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: something about that experience with him reminded her of her past.

886
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 1: This wasn't just her trying to get rid of another

887
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 1: guy to get closer to being with Dale. I think

888
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 1: Zach maybe a nice guy that we won't get to

889
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 1: know beyond this moment. But Claire's intuition told her he

890
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 1: wasn't right for her, and I think that is just

891
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 1: important that we point that out. I mean, so as

892
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 1: fans and I don't want to pull this to the listeners. Uh,

893
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 1: please email us or tweet us and hashtag almost famous

894
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: podcasts within it in that moment um, were you seeing

895
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 1: what Claire was feeling like? And I think that's for

896
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: us as as viewers. When he was in the car,

897
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 1: I think if I I think he was kind of shocked. Um,

898
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: but there was obviously something there that just made her

899
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: say goodbye. Now here's the question for you. Was it

900
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: because she was still still so into Dale that she

901
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 1: really wasn't in the mood the day anybody wassoever at

902
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 1: any level? Or was there something there like did he

903
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: not leaning for the kiss? Was there an uncomfortability and

904
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 1: she said, hey, really like you just gotta go. I

905
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: think there's both. I think she got embarrassed then it

906
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 1: wasn't a quicker moving for a kiss. I think she

907
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 1: felt a little rejected for a foot second, and then

908
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:41,839
Speaker 1: she was like, I don't like you anyway and you're

909
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 1: not gonna make me look bad, so the fight out. Yeah,

910
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: interesting completely agree with her. Yeah, it's kind of like

911
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,879
Speaker 1: going off of last week's group date when the guys

912
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 1: didn't immediately jump up to take her away that moment

913
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 1: like I'm here, hello, all eyes on me? Or get

914
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: out because she's you know, not for nothing. She is

915
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: thirty nine years old and she kind of knows what

916
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 1: she wants and she's not playing. But it's kind of

917
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 1: weird only because you signed on for the show and

918
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,439
Speaker 1: there's a certain way the show goes, so it's like

919
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 1: you gotta pick a lane. No, I mean, Ben, you

920
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 1: are the bachelor, Like, do they ever tell you, like

921
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 1: even if you find the one, don't don't like reveal

922
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 1: all or like keep it going or like whatever, Like

923
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, because it's so odd to me that

924
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 1: she's just like he's that's it, day one, goodbye. Yeah,

925
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 1: I mean I think the show doesn't really okay, So

926
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 1: this is how it happens. Like when you start to

927
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 1: have your favorite, the show encourages you, says stay open, right,

928
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 1: and they kind of say because you've seen episodes or

929
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 1: seasons before or you know that, like there's twists and

930
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 1: turns that you won't expect until the very end, and

931
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,839
Speaker 1: so until that very end, until that moment that you're celebrating,

932
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 1: stay open to the process. They open to get to

933
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 1: know these these people, and and I think that's what

934
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 1: helps you out because you end up respecting, loving, caring

935
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 1: about many people because you're learning about them, and then

936
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 1: the end is always super difficult, like you said, because

937
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 1: you care, but also super exciting because you're at the end.

938
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 1: It makes the show so good. That's why like me

939
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 1: and got love watching it. It's like towards middle to

940
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 1: the end where you can see relationships even friendships or whatever,

941
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 1: or just like candying about another human where it gets

942
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 1: like I think you did you know? I think you'll

943
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 1: get that at least with Tasia. So now you'll think

944
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:35,319
Speaker 1: of it like two totally separate seasons, and like this

945
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 1: season is like the unique, never been seen before transparent girl,

946
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 1: who I do feel is so relatable, like she can't

947
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: stop thinking or faking that she's just into one person.

948
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 1: So I think there's a lot of girls out there

949
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 1: that are like, oh, Claire is me. That's how I

950
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,359
Speaker 1: would be in this situation, or at least that's how

951
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: I think of it. And then like, while we can't

952
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 1: watch a whole season of this, least we'll get to

953
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 1: a regularly, regularly scheduled like yeah, oh my god, but

954
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:19,720
Speaker 1: you don't know, but it could, right, I mean, he knows,

955
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 1: that's so excited to see if he if he's gonna

956
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 1: go if she goes, if he's gonna go with it.

957
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 1: I So here's based on experience, Yes, that would be

958
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 1: wild and that is super entertaining. Um I can see though,

959
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 1: where as a lead, if you pick a favorite and

960
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: you make it very obvious and that it would destruct

961
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 1: the environment immediately. So like what I'm saying is if

962
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: you even at any level, hint that you try to

963
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 1: protect yourself from expressing and showing emotion or your interest

964
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 1: in anyone when you're in group settings to such a

965
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 1: degree so that like it doesn't blow up the environment

966
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 1: and it doesn't affect the masses. I mean, it spreads fast.

967
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 1: And so if you do come out and you're like, hey,

968
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: I like this person, I'm gonna spend an hour of

969
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:09,319
Speaker 1: my group date with him and I'm not really even

970
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 1: gonna care to come back to you. Like I know,

971
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 1: if you did that on week one, or if you

972
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 1: did that week six, everybody in the house would be

973
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 1: affected and they wouldn't. And it's hard to get over

974
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 1: it because it spreads quick. So based on that question,

975
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,720
Speaker 1: do we think the guys in this house are roasting

976
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 1: Dale the way they are because they are jealous or

977
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 1: because there's another reason? Because for the first time, I'm

978
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 1: watching this and I'm like, I don't know if we're

979
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 1: being given any other reason beyond jealousy for them to

980
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 1: hate him. Mm hmmm. I don't know. Like I said,

981
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 1: there's no show me who Dale is, Like, I don't

982
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 1: know besides being handled with a dope smile. I don't

983
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 1: know if Dale is like he doesn't really there's been

984
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 1: no real discussions with him. There's like a minute of

985
00:53:57,719 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: him and easy talking easy by the way, I love

986
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 1: is for anality so much like like you could see

987
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 1: his personality, you know what I mean. I like the

988
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 1: guys would need to you're like, oh, I know who

989
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 1: you are or the kind of guy you are. I

990
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 1: don't know the kind of guy deal is. I don't

991
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 1: know what the hell Dale saying to them in the house.

992
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,839
Speaker 1: Or maybe there's really not much to Dale and he's

993
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,959
Speaker 1: just really beautiful and the guys just making fun of him. Well,

994
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 1: we do see. I think we can get a hint

995
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 1: at who Dale is the house because he does get

996
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 1: called out and he doesn't handle that well. No matter

997
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 1: if you like Dale or not like that that moment

998
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 1: is him like kind of dancing around and being like, oh,

999
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 1: I got lost and I just randomly walked in the

1000
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 1: clears room and there she was, and I was surprised, Like, Okay, well,

1001
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 1: as all the guys are saying, Dale, if you're into

1002
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:40,839
Speaker 1: it and you went after her, just just tell us

1003
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 1: like that fixes that, Like, just be honest with me

1004
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 1: about that. So you see that. I think that starts

1005
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:48,799
Speaker 1: to really make the guy's mad because they don't feel

1006
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 1: like he's on their side. And and then you see

1007
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 1: him in Easy talking, and Easy so far has been

1008
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 1: a character that you know, I enjoy watching, I appreciate,

1009
00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 1: I like, and he is honest with Dale by saying, Dude,

1010
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 1: I don't hate you, but I but like you've messed up,

1011
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 1: like you I forget the exact words, but pretty much

1012
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 1: what you're saying is like you you talk around yourself

1013
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 1: all the time, and you're not straightforward with us, and

1014
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 1: you just say the right thing all the time, and

1015
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 1: that frustrates all of us because we don't get to

1016
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 1: know you. And we also are frustrated because you're the

1017
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 1: only one spending time with Claire. And I think if

1018
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:21,839
Speaker 1: we want to know what Dale is like in the house,

1019
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 1: we have to trust a guy like Easy who is

1020
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 1: obviously cares for him, and it's like not like hey,

1021
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 1: I don't I want you to leave, but just saying

1022
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,879
Speaker 1: like if you want to make friendships here at all,

1023
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 1: then like just be a little more honest. I just

1024
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 1: don't know if it's like if it's just he's like

1025
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 1: a little sneaky or a little immature or what it is,

1026
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I wish I could tell

1027
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:42,800
Speaker 1: if he really liked Clari or not, because I'm telling you,

1028
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,959
Speaker 1: like for me, I don't know, I don't. I don't

1029
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 1: know besides physical, you know what I mean, Because they

1030
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 1: don't have like any like his love language speech was

1031
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 1: kind of compared to some others, you know what I mean.

1032
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 1: They haven't had like a deep combo and they're just

1033
00:55:56,600 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 1: like making out all the time. They haven't happening conversation,

1034
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 1: right have they know it? Well, we don't know the extent.

1035
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 1: We haven't been He haven't been it. We haven't seen it.

1036
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 1: She do you think that she's going to possibly leave

1037
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 1: this show having never had a one on one with

1038
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 1: this guy? Yeah? Yeah, I mean it looks like it's

1039
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 1: from the previous but looks like it's coming quick. So

1040
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, I hope not, because I

1041
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 1: was so weird not to see that. Also, like I said,

1042
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, there's like a teeny percentage of me

1043
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 1: that's like maybe he won't goold be great? How is

1044
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 1: this conversation gonna go She's gonna be like or she

1045
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 1: sits down, has her Harrison thing where he says we

1046
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 1: can't go on like Claire, and then he's just going

1047
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 1: to be like, well, he says, you blow up the Bachelorette, right,

1048
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:57,840
Speaker 1: he says you blow I don't know. So she she's

1049
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 1: so yeah, like you blow up the Bachelorette? And then

1050
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 1: is she just going to go to Dale's room and

1051
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 1: be like, look, I should probably not continue with this

1052
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 1: because I like you enough. Do you want to get

1053
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 1: out of here? Like, gow's this conversation going to go down?

1054
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 1: Can you wait here one second? Can someone refreshed my memory?

1055
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 1: Did she not do this on Batch in Paradise where

1056
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 1: she was like, there's no one here for me, I'm

1057
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 1: out After a couple of episodes, am I wrong? Yes?

1058
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 1: I was there? Yeah, you were there? Yeah? Is that

1059
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 1: just like her emo like not feeling it? So she's

1060
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 1: like out, I don't know, I mean she was around

1061
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 1: Winter Games. That's the only time I've been like around

1062
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 1: her consistently, and I mean she left and what we

1063
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 1: didn't get talked about it she was engaged after Winter Games,

1064
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 1: like ben Wa got down on one knee at a

1065
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 1: live show and she said yes, Like I was sitting

1066
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 1: next to her and she came back, and I was like,

1067
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 1: what just happened? Like I didn't see this one coming.

1068
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 1: I mean I was sitting right next where, and I

1069
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 1: was like, I feel like I'm watching something I shouldn't

1070
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 1: and it proved that. But yeah, I mean what I

1071
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 1: know about Claire from being around here and now she

1072
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 1: told me from like she really wants to find love

1073
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 1: and she's very direct in her pursuit at love. And

1074
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 1: I think it was the biggest concern, if you will,

1075
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 1: about her being the bachelor at is that like she is,

1076
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 1: she sets her eyes forward and she doesn't she's not

1077
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 1: going to take the process slow, Like if this is

1078
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 1: you're for me or you're not. And if you're not

1079
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 1: for me, then you can go home. If you are

1080
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 1: for me, then stick around and let's figure this thing out.

1081
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 1: But I've never known Claire or seeing Claire to be

1082
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 1: like you're for me, and I'm for you now let's

1083
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 1: just get out of here too, So I don't know.

1084
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 1: I think this is kind of why I'm so into this,

1085
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 1: because it's just so different, and because she is so

1086
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 1: firm in her feelings, and even if she were to

1087
00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 1: stick around for the eleven airing weeks that we normally get,

1088
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 1: she she there's no way she would fall for anyone

1089
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 1: other than their dale. She's gonna have tunnel vision now

1090
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 1: through out. Yeah, I feel like I feel like like

1091
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 1: game over now, especially because it's so awkward anyway, trying

1092
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 1: to meet someone in this way. You know, it's such

1093
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 1: a process and you already basically are closing the door

1094
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 1: on so many other guys. Like if I was one

1095
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 1: of the guys, I'd be like, I don't trust that

1096
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 1: you like me at all, But you know, it's it

1097
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 1: almost seems like it would take a lot longer for

1098
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 1: their even to be like a number two or number

1099
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 1: three or a number four person for her, I would agree.

1100
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 1: I'd also say that Blake, who did not play a

1101
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 1: huge role in this episode, is probably her number such

1102
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 1: a far number. Yeah, but I feel like he genuinely

1103
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 1: likes her, Like I feel like he likes her. He's sweet,

1104
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 1: but I don't know that that. I don't know. There's

1105
00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 1: like a big age gap there too. There's ten years between.

1106
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:04,919
Speaker 1: That's a lot of life experience that Claire has on him. Yeah,

1107
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 1: that is a lot. That's a lot of time. Um, okay.

1108
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 1: The one thing we didn't cover is the fact that

1109
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 1: she decided to forego the day portion of one of

1110
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 1: the group dates. Do we like? She's literally telling everybody

1111
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 1: like I've chosen and that she didn't gave herself the roads.

1112
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 1: She gave herself the road. She gave herself the road.

1113
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 1: She gave her the pat out of I'm like, why

1114
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:37,439
Speaker 1: are you giving yourself the road? The that was their

1115
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 1: mission was to roast They all completed the mission, but

1116
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 1: you didn't like what you heard, so none of them

1117
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 1: got a road. That's such crap, guys, we have to

1118
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 1: be honest here. She is so into Dale, Like, I'm

1119
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 1: going to make the assumption that she's so into Dale

1120
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 1: that the show is actually downplaying just how much she

1121
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 1: is into Dale and how uninterested she is in being

1122
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 1: around and being with any of these other guys. I

1123
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 1: I was thinking the same thing, Ben. I was like,

1124
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 1: I bet you there was even more material I have

1125
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 1: could be and everything she says, she's like, I wish

1126
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 1: he was here. I would have left with him. I

1127
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 1: would have stayed longer. Oh I just meet him around.

1128
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 1: Oh he's just the best. Oh I wonder what he's

1129
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 1: doing today. Oh he's on the group date. Because I

1130
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:18,440
Speaker 1: just needed him to be with Like I just wanted

1131
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 1: to see him quickly. That's why he wanted to solo date, right, Yeah,

1132
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 1: I mean you guys, I thought that he was going

1133
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:28,439
Speaker 1: she was going to invite him on the second time,

1134
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 1: like gets two days to this week. It's been fantastic,

1135
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 1: Like why not at this point, Like seriously, like if

1136
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 1: if this is if, if this is how this thing

1137
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 1: is going to play out, like let it. Let her,

1138
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 1: let her do what she wants, like if she wants

1139
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 1: him around all the time, if he wants if she

1140
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 1: wants him to move in, and like she'll date. They

1141
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 1: should do like one episode where it's just the two

1142
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 1: of them the whole hour and a half and then

1143
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 1: you just see at the end if they make it

1144
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 1: or not, like a fast forward, like a fast forward season,

1145
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 1: just like it would be wild. So like I think

1146
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 1: this shows under playing. Just tell into into him. She was,

1147
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 1: and I think all these decisions are based on the

1148
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 1: fact that she's she is transparent and for everything that,

1149
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 1: like you know, Claire is doing like she is being

1150
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 1: very authentic to how she's feeling. I just really hope

1151
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 1: he goes if she goes, I hope he goes with her.

1152
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 1: I really do, because I feel like that would be

1153
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not by I'm not laughing. I like

1154
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 1: Claire and I want her to find live and I

1155
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 1: really hope, but I can I have I had this

1156
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:33,360
Speaker 1: vision of, like, I don't know, do you know what's funny?

1157
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 1: As I Danna came into her room and she was

1158
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 1: supposed to be like leading a date that afternoon. She's like,

1159
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 1: wait to get to know these guys. And then the

1160
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 1: date's canceled. Diana never shows back up again, may not

1161
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:48,200
Speaker 1: have ever met the guys. And then and then Claire

1162
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:50,000
Speaker 1: is just like, yeah, I'm going to cancel a day.

1163
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 1: Portion Um. It was honestly probably too hot. She either

1164
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 1: like one didn't have the energy too. It was annoyed

1165
01:02:57,240 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 1: because Dale was Dale was not on that day. No wait,

1166
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:02,920
Speaker 1: Dale was not going to be on the date. He

1167
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 1: was on the first one. Yeah, Okay, Yeah, it was

1168
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 1: front after you like go on a date with a

1169
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 1: dude that you really like. Like, it's like it was

1170
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:14,680
Speaker 1: like she was not on the Bachelorette anymore. She was

1171
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 1: just like, oh God, let me talk about you. It's like,

1172
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 1: I want to get some sleeping. Okay, it's too hot outside.

1173
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 1: We're just gonna just talk over drinks later. I wish

1174
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 1: I would have I wish I would have known you

1175
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 1: could just like canceled dates when you're tired. Fantastic, Like

1176
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 1: if that's how you if that's how you get some

1177
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:34,000
Speaker 1: sleep at night, like that. Today we're not meeting because

1178
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 1: I'm tired and it's hot outside and I just want

1179
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:42,640
Speaker 1: to watch football. It's Saturday. Yeah. Um, well, there's a few. Obviously,

1180
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 1: Dale is going to be the main storyline because that

1181
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 1: is the main storyline of our breakdown of this episode.

1182
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 1: It goes it's the storyline that wraps this way all

1183
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 1: the way into next episode and even the episodes previous.

1184
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 1: But there are a few moments that we do need

1185
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 1: to highlight. We've already talked about Joseph that is a

1186
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 1: big moment in this season. His from this show completely

1187
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 1: inappropriate and his way of confronting it. Even his way

1188
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 1: of sitting down at the beginning and saying, you know

1189
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 1: he almost to me looked like he took pride when

1190
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 1: he said, you know me, like I will speak my mind.

1191
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 1: It's like there's a difference between speaking your mind and

1192
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 1: and just being yeah I did. Like there's a difference

1193
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:27,960
Speaker 1: between ego got bruised and this is how it came out.

1194
01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 1: He can't hang. He's not like a man man in

1195
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 1: that way, you know what I mean. He just went

1196
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 1: fo baby mode. I'm gonna say, you're the wholest atrement. Okay, bye, Felicia,

1197
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 1: see later. And she doesn't care that much. Deals right

1198
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:43,960
Speaker 1: there in the in the wings waiting like what are

1199
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:45,840
Speaker 1: you doing? And you I'm like, what are you doing?

1200
01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 1: Your dead? Yeah, go back home to your daughter, and

1201
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 1: like stop putting judgments on other people. You're a part

1202
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 1: of the show. It's supposed to be fun and it's

1203
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:56,240
Speaker 1: sometimes ridiculous, and you knew what you signed on for.

1204
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 1: And then he's going to come in like he's the

1205
01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 1: most pious, Like it was so not classy. Okay, she

1206
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 1: she did stand up for herself in perfect clear fashion fashion.

1207
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 1: We have the clip of that I've listened to the

1208
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 1: last you know what you are done. Let me tell

1209
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 1: you something. The way you're talking to me right now,

1210
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:20,680
Speaker 1: never in a million years, listen to me. Listen. Never

1211
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 1: in a million years did I ever think I would

1212
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:27,560
Speaker 1: have to utter these words again. Do not ever talk

1213
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:29,320
Speaker 1: to me like that. I never thought i'd ever have

1214
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 1: to tell any man that I would never want them

1215
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:35,240
Speaker 1: being the father of my child. And I stand by that.

1216
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 1: I would never want my children having a father like you.

1217
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 1: Get out of here. The other thing I think we

1218
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:44,880
Speaker 1: need to bring up before Marica leaves is Tastia's awkward

1219
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 1: entrance during the scenes for the next episode. So weird,

1220
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:54,320
Speaker 1: Ben your face says at all it was a little much. Yeah,

1221
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 1: I mean, like Tassia's beautiful. Don't get me wrong, I

1222
01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:59,400
Speaker 1: love her. Okay, she's a good friend. I just want

1223
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:02,960
Speaker 1: to know John Paul Jones is coming back. Yeah, I

1224
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:05,200
Speaker 1: mean it was a lot. It was like all of

1225
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 1: a sudden, there's Tasia in the swimming pool and rising

1226
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 1: out of the water SloMo, and here's the truth. It

1227
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:15,480
Speaker 1: comes out of nowhere, like there's no lead up to this,

1228
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 1: Like there's just all of a sensations getting out of

1229
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:19,920
Speaker 1: pool and then I think Chris Harris in the background

1230
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 1: says like welcome Tasia or something, and you're like, for what,

1231
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 1: like what is she? Like? We still don't know what

1232
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 1: she's doing. She shows up out of the pool somehow

1233
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:31,840
Speaker 1: the craziest way to like drop the hint that clears

1234
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:35,600
Speaker 1: out and Tastia is the new bachelorrete It's like, please

1235
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:37,960
Speaker 1: just show a foot stepping out of the limit with

1236
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 1: a pretty dress, right, yes, I would have loved it

1237
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:42,200
Speaker 1: if they just like did the pan up. It didn't

1238
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 1: show us the face, like I know there's stuff, but

1239
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 1: just like something. This was so abrupt and so like

1240
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:55,920
Speaker 1: here I am in SloMo glitter, there's Tassia glowing, blowing, yes,

1241
01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 1: looking beautiful, but like all of a sudden, there's Tasia.

1242
01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:03,040
Speaker 1: So we have Tastia's interns, we have Joseph's exit. We

1243
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 1: obviously have Zack's exit that we talked about, um that

1244
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:10,040
Speaker 1: you know, Claire just wasn't feeling that and was feeling uncomfortable,

1245
01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:13,800
Speaker 1: so she sent him home. Here is one last guy

1246
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:15,840
Speaker 1: that I just want to get a comment on because

1247
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:19,000
Speaker 1: I just really enjoy him, like he is my I

1248
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:23,240
Speaker 1: love I know been It's great. Ben it's hilarious. Yeah,

1249
01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:25,919
Speaker 1: Bennett knows what he's doing. He's he's great. But there's

1250
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:27,600
Speaker 1: two guys. One is Easy that we've talked about. I

1251
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:31,840
Speaker 1: think he Easy is just terrific, could be the next Bachelor. Um.

1252
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 1: I think he has just really shown himself well. But

1253
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:40,400
Speaker 1: here is my underdog that I've really enjoyed, Riley. I

1254
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:43,680
Speaker 1: think Riley is a guy who has been patient, who's

1255
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:46,440
Speaker 1: listened well, who speaks a lot of wisdom if you

1256
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:48,800
Speaker 1: listen to what he says. When he says it, it's

1257
01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 1: always coming from a good place. It's always super wise.

1258
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:55,400
Speaker 1: It's never mean necessarily, it's just like it's either saying

1259
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:57,600
Speaker 1: guys calmed down or don't speak for me, let me

1260
01:07:57,640 --> 01:08:00,080
Speaker 1: speak for myself. But he just has kind of it

1261
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:03,800
Speaker 1: on the background. But I really like Riley. I'm gonna

1262
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:09,120
Speaker 1: look up to see which one Riley is exactly. No, No,

1263
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Speaker 1: he's the one that last week. Yes, I like the

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01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:16,679
Speaker 1: prom dance. Yes. Yeah, he's really sweet and seems very

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01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:22,720
Speaker 1: genuine I've really enjoyed him, very genuinely sweet. Sorry that

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01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:27,200
Speaker 1: didn't You're right. He doesn't have like any sort of

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01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:29,920
Speaker 1: judge e tone. He's just kind of like talking out

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01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:36,080
Speaker 1: his feelings. But do you know what I mean by

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01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:38,880
Speaker 1: him not having a judge tone. It's like he's trying

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01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 1: to accuse anyone of anything. He's like just he's there

1271
01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:44,360
Speaker 1: and he's observing. He's observing, and he's commenting on what's

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01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 1: happening around him. And I mean, any other season, I

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01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:49,679
Speaker 1: think he's a front runner. I think any other season,

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01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:53,879
Speaker 1: somebody gets to know him and go, you're you're incredibly kind, sweet, gentle,

1275
01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:56,599
Speaker 1: like understanding, like I want to get to know you more.

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01:08:56,600 --> 01:08:58,559
Speaker 1: Instead on this season, he just kind of sitting back,

1277
01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:02,400
Speaker 1: being like, I don't know what I'm doing here. I mean,

1278
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:05,760
Speaker 1: a bunch of dudes popping lamar tre prosecco cracks me

1279
01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:09,599
Speaker 1: up so hard because it's like subourbon mom, drink of choic.

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01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:18,519
Speaker 1: I'm like, here they are. It's always no funny. Wait,

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01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:20,599
Speaker 1: come here, we're almost done. You have any last thoughts

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01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:26,840
Speaker 1: on the batch? Come here? Sorry. I was I was, hey, guys, okay,

1283
01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:29,240
Speaker 1: I was driving taking my daughter in art class. I

1284
01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:31,960
Speaker 1: was thinking like, maybe I was too hard on Claire

1285
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:36,439
Speaker 1: when I spoke earlier, and I I like her. I

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01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 1: think she's good and I'm happy she found love and

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01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:41,680
Speaker 1: that's ultimately what it's about on this show, right, But

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01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:46,840
Speaker 1: I think, do you think Dale's absolutely absolutely gonna leave

1289
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:48,760
Speaker 1: with her? She leaves like Dylan want to be there,

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01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:52,200
Speaker 1: No one wants to be there, stuff like but but

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01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:53,960
Speaker 1: but I think that I think the conceit of the

1292
01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:58,040
Speaker 1: show is that it's a TV show, right, and we

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01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 1: want to draw out the conclusion to the end with

1294
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:07,240
Speaker 1: a couple of choices. And what she's done by congratulating

1295
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 1: congratulations from me, by falling in love with this guy

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01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:13,200
Speaker 1: so quickly, is taken away the conceit of the show,

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01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:17,000
Speaker 1: and the and the Bachelorette and Bachelor would not. You

1298
01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:21,880
Speaker 1: can't have a show keep going if you lose, if

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01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:25,240
Speaker 1: you give up that conceit, unfortunately, and we're all happy

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01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:27,120
Speaker 1: for her. I think she's very sweet. I hope she

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01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 1: finds love. I hope it lasts forever. But man, oh man,

1302
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:31,640
Speaker 1: Like I feel bad for those guys that date. That

1303
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 1: dude was shredded and she sent him home, just shredded

1304
01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:40,040
Speaker 1: a little nervous energy. But he was sweet, he was nice,

1305
01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:42,599
Speaker 1: he was polite, he had good feet, he didn't actually

1306
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:45,479
Speaker 1: lean back for kiss, like you know, there's weird stuff

1307
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:47,479
Speaker 1: happening there and she just got rid of him. I

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01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:52,400
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know. Okay, as men, Ben and Scott,

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01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:56,639
Speaker 1: how would you feel with a bachelorette leaving and then

1310
01:10:56,800 --> 01:11:03,560
Speaker 1: you getting a replacement bachelorette? You want to take that first? No,

1311
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:05,840
Speaker 1: because I feel like Scott, you're gonna speak from a

1312
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:09,320
Speaker 1: place like of of like I've been there, so I

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01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:11,960
Speaker 1: know how it would feel, and I want to hear

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01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:13,880
Speaker 1: what you think and then I I'll fill in. I

1315
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:16,639
Speaker 1: would feel like a bit of a piece of meat.

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01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:20,519
Speaker 1: First of all, you know, like it's if if I

1317
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:22,880
Speaker 1: was really one of these guys who was there because

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01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:24,600
Speaker 1: of Claire, as they really all say they do. I

1319
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:26,679
Speaker 1: don't know whether they have to say that they feel

1320
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:28,519
Speaker 1: like they should say it, or they were all fans

1321
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:35,599
Speaker 1: of Claire's beforehand. Um, but I would feel uh a cheated,

1322
01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 1: be like a consolation prize. Um. And see, like what

1323
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:45,360
Speaker 1: am I doing now? Like I guess I'm still on

1324
01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:47,200
Speaker 1: the I guess I'm here to keep this TV show

1325
01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 1: going and that's what we gotta do. So I feel

1326
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:52,920
Speaker 1: a responsibility to do that. But it wouldn't the the

1327
01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:55,000
Speaker 1: honesty has sort of been taken out of it for me.

1328
01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:58,439
Speaker 1: M Yeah, that's a good point. Like I feel like

1329
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:01,920
Speaker 1: that I would feel like I would feel like the

1330
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:04,080
Speaker 1: consolation prize. And I think that's exactly what I'm gonna say,

1331
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:09,080
Speaker 1: is it would be hard for me mentally to be like, Okay, everybody,

1332
01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 1: everybody that's left after Dale, you now get a shot

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01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:17,439
Speaker 1: at love. Also, um, I think the positive that they

1334
01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:20,960
Speaker 1: might have is I think they've been so disconnected from

1335
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 1: Claire so far because there hasn't been another connection, that

1336
01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:27,120
Speaker 1: they're probably just excited to go back to dating again,

1337
01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:29,400
Speaker 1: like to give it a shot. Like, Hey, I'm just

1338
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:31,800
Speaker 1: excited that somebody's here that might be interested in me.

1339
01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:34,880
Speaker 1: It's a fresh start. I think, you know, beat down

1340
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:37,800
Speaker 1: so much and felt like such a consolation prize that

1341
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 1: I just want to feel like I'm actually a desirable partner. Yeah,

1342
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:43,360
Speaker 1: I agree with that. I and I think they want

1343
01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:44,760
Speaker 1: to look there there because they want to be on

1344
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:46,599
Speaker 1: the show. I felt so bad for them when they didn't.

1345
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:49,000
Speaker 1: They sat around for four hours waiting for to go

1346
01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:50,760
Speaker 1: on that date and then they had like a quote

1347
01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:54,479
Speaker 1: unquote extended uh cocktail hour, but she spent the whole

1348
01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:57,840
Speaker 1: damn thing with Dale. Anyway, Like these poor guys, Like

1349
01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:00,760
Speaker 1: what are they doing there? They got lives. That dude

1350
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:02,240
Speaker 1: has a daughter, even though he wanted to blow it

1351
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:04,599
Speaker 1: up and go home anyway, Like come on, man, like,

1352
01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:07,080
Speaker 1: let's play the game. Play the game all right. I

1353
01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:10,479
Speaker 1: love you guys. We'll see later. Well, to finish his thought, too,

1354
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:15,479
Speaker 1: he's always fun. He loves the bat. Oh it's actually

1355
01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:18,160
Speaker 1: has a couple. It just gives us joy and it's

1356
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:23,000
Speaker 1: a nice escapism. I love it. So here's a quick

1357
01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 1: note though, to finish his thought is, we as fans,

1358
01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:28,280
Speaker 1: get to watch this thing in two and a half

1359
01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:31,400
Speaker 1: hours or however long it takes, right, and we're already

1360
01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:33,400
Speaker 1: tired and feeling for these guys, like, wow, you've been

1361
01:13:33,439 --> 01:13:35,639
Speaker 1: sitting around a while while this date took a long time,

1362
01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:39,240
Speaker 1: and you haven't seen clear yet. Like in real time,

1363
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:41,519
Speaker 1: these guys might be at that date for ten hours,

1364
01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:45,120
Speaker 1: sitting on a couch waiting for something to happen, Like

1365
01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:48,160
Speaker 1: this is their real This isn't like they're real lives.

1366
01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:50,160
Speaker 1: They're just kind of hanging out now, And so I

1367
01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:54,000
Speaker 1: bet they're excited for something new to happen, excited for

1368
01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:57,800
Speaker 1: somebody walk in specifically with this because they were so

1369
01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:01,160
Speaker 1: jipped so quickly. I feel like they'd be like, great,

1370
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:02,920
Speaker 1: can like what Scott said? Can we play now? Can

1371
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:05,680
Speaker 1: we do it? Like, let's go, Because if you are

1372
01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 1: signed on for something like this and then immediately you're like,

1373
01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:11,040
Speaker 1: oh wait, I can't even get a shot at the running,

1374
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:15,160
Speaker 1: you know, that's kind of sad. So I don't know.

1375
01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:16,800
Speaker 1: I want to see I want to see dates. I

1376
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:20,600
Speaker 1: want to see flirting. I want to see stuck. I

1377
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 1: want to see relationships. Okay, we'll actually ask the question

1378
01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:25,040
Speaker 1: to the guys. I'm gonna ask a question to the girls.

1379
01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:29,759
Speaker 1: Oh god, I was literally just gonna ask this to Marica.

1380
01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:31,800
Speaker 1: Know where you're going with it. But let's see if

1381
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 1: we read each other's minds. Okay, here's my question. Tassie

1382
01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:37,880
Speaker 1: comes in now, let's assume now we can start talking

1383
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 1: about that she is now coming in as the bachelor.

1384
01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:42,519
Speaker 1: Let's just make that assumption. It's been teased for so long.

1385
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:44,800
Speaker 1: We've now seen her go out of the pool. If

1386
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:47,799
Speaker 1: it happens, how do we remember this season? Is Claire

1387
01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:50,160
Speaker 1: and Dale remembered or is it tastious season as the

1388
01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:52,240
Speaker 1: bachelorette from here on out? And that's how we remember

1389
01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:56,600
Speaker 1: this season as fans. Okay, so I my question was

1390
01:14:56,640 --> 01:15:00,519
Speaker 1: gonna be, Marika, how do you I hate using the

1391
01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 1: term replacement bachelorette because Tasia herself deserves her own season.

1392
01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:09,800
Speaker 1: She's so worthy of being the Bachelorette, So we need

1393
01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:11,559
Speaker 1: to come up with a better term. But how would

1394
01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:15,799
Speaker 1: you feel being sent in to take somebody else's leftover?

1395
01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:20,120
Speaker 1: But when you're an actress and you either replace somebody

1396
01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:22,679
Speaker 1: on a pilot or on a show or something, it's

1397
01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:25,840
Speaker 1: like that walking into something like that. I'm sure she's

1398
01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:28,439
Speaker 1: going to feel a little bit like insecure about it,

1399
01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:31,080
Speaker 1: but you gotta plow through and be like, Okay, that

1400
01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:34,120
Speaker 1: was meant to be. It's my time to shine, and

1401
01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:36,760
Speaker 1: let's hit it and let's go and find the confidence

1402
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:38,280
Speaker 1: and just just do it. And I feel like it

1403
01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:41,200
Speaker 1: could very well end up being her season, more so

1404
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:44,439
Speaker 1: than Claire's, because just the amount of episodes that will

1405
01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:46,720
Speaker 1: be left an the amount of time, and then the

1406
01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:49,840
Speaker 1: stories and the relationships and all that, and like at

1407
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:52,080
Speaker 1: this point, like Ben said, I don't even know half

1408
01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:55,400
Speaker 1: these guys names, so like it's it's so hard for

1409
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:57,559
Speaker 1: me to be like, oh, it's Claire. If she leaves

1410
01:15:57,560 --> 01:16:01,080
Speaker 1: in the next one or two episodes. I think Tati

1411
01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:02,840
Speaker 1: is the one who's going to introduce us to all

1412
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:04,840
Speaker 1: these men and who they are, you know, because she's

1413
01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:08,640
Speaker 1: not giving anyone air to m I think best case scenario,

1414
01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:11,360
Speaker 1: it was meant to be for both of them to

1415
01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:14,000
Speaker 1: be the leads of the season because hopefully both of

1416
01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:15,960
Speaker 1: them end up getting married to one of the guys

1417
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:19,000
Speaker 1: on it. So it was very hopefully it's fate like.

1418
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:24,240
Speaker 1: But to answer Ben's question directly, um, I would say

1419
01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:28,000
Speaker 1: time will tell whose season We look back on this

1420
01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:31,280
Speaker 1: and think who season was it. But I do believe

1421
01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:34,759
Speaker 1: that if both girls end up being with their pick,

1422
01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:39,040
Speaker 1: that that it will just be equally viewed as like

1423
01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:45,320
Speaker 1: declare tatious Hella entertaining, like two bachelorettes for the price,

1424
01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:49,479
Speaker 1: the one for the audience, you know, like and I'm

1425
01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:51,200
Speaker 1: sure the men are going to be different, you know,

1426
01:16:51,439 --> 01:16:54,439
Speaker 1: you're different, different vibes, different energy with people, and I

1427
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:56,800
Speaker 1: think I'll be it will be fun to watch and

1428
01:16:56,800 --> 01:16:59,240
Speaker 1: get to know these dudes because I, like I said,

1429
01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:03,240
Speaker 1: I don't know any but til and easy to because

1430
01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:07,200
Speaker 1: I like him, he's the best. Well, we really appreciate

1431
01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:08,880
Speaker 1: you coming on. Thank you for breaking down, Thank you

1432
01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 1: for being a passionate fan. UM now this is uh yeah,

1433
01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:18,240
Speaker 1: Scott was. It was a great addition to this UM

1434
01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:21,840
Speaker 1: now you've heard it before. Follow our lead, Ashley. It

1435
01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:26,439
Speaker 1: was another great episode, uh with a crazy breakdown of

1436
01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:28,519
Speaker 1: Claire's season. We're gonna see what happens next. We'll be

1437
01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:31,320
Speaker 1: back next week, uh, probably to start talking about Tashia,

1438
01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:35,599
Speaker 1: which I'm excited about. UM. But until then, I've been been,

1439
01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:43,120
Speaker 1: I've been Ashley, I've been racah. Thank you. Follow the

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01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:46,000
Speaker 1: Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast on I Heart

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01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:48,920
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