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Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's to show that she

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Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know he's given me

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Speaker 1: You know. He'll be interviewing celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs and industry

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Speaker 1: my man, Rashan McDonald. Money Making Conversations. Here we go.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversation Masterclass. I am your host,

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Speaker 1: Rashan McDonald. I recognize that we all have different definitions

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Speaker 1: of success. For you, it may be the size of

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Speaker 1: your paycheck. Mine is inspiring people to accomplish their goals

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Speaker 1: and live their very best life. It's time to stop

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Speaker 1: reading other people's success stories and really start writing your own.

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Speaker 1: People always talk about your purpose a gift. If you

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Speaker 1: have a gift, lead with your gift and don't let

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Speaker 1: your friends, family, or coworkers stop you from planning or

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Speaker 1: living your dreams. My guest today is Derek D. Hayes.

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Speaker 1: He was recently featured on the couple of Ess magazine.

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Speaker 1: His vision for his restaurant, Big Dave's Cheesecake beginning twenty fourteen,

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Speaker 1: as he aimed to merge his passion for community, food

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Speaker 1: Shelled gas station and Dunewoody, Georgia. Since twenty sixteen has

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Speaker 1: generated nationally on Big Day's Cheesecake. If you've not been there,

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Speaker 1: I recommend you go there. He's right down the street.

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Speaker 1: For my business, my staff, they need, they need to

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Speaker 1: and Derek Hayes Foundation and co owner a vegan cheesecake concept,

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Speaker 1: Thinkies with Sloody, Vegan Atlanta CEO and vegan restaurant phenom

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Speaker 1: Pinky Colt in twenty twenty one. Hayes passion for community

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Speaker 1: because sustus journey into Big Dave's Cheesecake, being a community leader,

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Speaker 1: being bigger than food. Please welcome to Money Making Conversations

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Speaker 1: Master Class, Derek D. Hayes. How are you doing, sir?

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Speaker 1: I'm good man. Thank you so much, mister Vshan McDonald

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Speaker 1: for having me. Man. I appreciate your brother. Hey Man.

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Speaker 1: They had to lay it out there for you, Derek,

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Speaker 1: because you know, because now you did, Man, that was good.

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Speaker 1: You know sometimes hearing you know the stuff that you did,

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Speaker 1: you know along the way, it feels good. You know,

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Speaker 1: oh your heart rate, you know, somebody else honoring it.

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Speaker 1: So it's always a blessing. Well, the thing about it

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Speaker 1: they've done. Because we tend to be too humble about

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Speaker 1: see when we get that sandwich because the cheesecakes that

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Speaker 1: because what happens was there's a journey to get there.

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Speaker 1: So how did I hit the date? Twenty fourteen? I

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Speaker 1: what takes him to that next step? Now, when you

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Speaker 1: don't deserve it. And I think, see, and that's what

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to teach too. You know, I was asked

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Speaker 1: why do you think our culture, you know, handle things differently?

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Speaker 1: And the reason what that being is just to imagine

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Speaker 1: if you was a kid on Christmas, right, everybody got

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Speaker 1: this toy, but this one kid got the best toy

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Speaker 1: that everybody wanted. That if that kid never was told

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Speaker 1: how to share that toy, because he never had the

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Speaker 1: resources to feel good about having anything that feel good.

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Speaker 1: Then how can that kid ever know he's going wrong?

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Speaker 1: When you win an environment of everything a certain way,

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Speaker 1: that's what you're accustomed to. Now, what I'm trying to

439
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Speaker 1: show different is, Okay, we stepped out of these boundaries

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Speaker 1: of these inner cities, these lower lower income communities, and

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Speaker 1: now we got social media outlets showing us when it's

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Speaker 1: right from Rome. But the leaders that got the voice

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Speaker 1: got to help out and say, let's now that we

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Speaker 1: got the ball in our hands, let's stick together and

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Speaker 1: change these communities out and give resources. Let's build community centers, centers,

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Speaker 1: Let's build a financial literacy program so that when kids

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Speaker 1: get to high school, and when they're about to get

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Speaker 1: out of high school, they ain't lost on about a

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Speaker 1: credit card or how they going to do their financial

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Speaker 1: literacy or how they going to get through college. They

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Speaker 1: know that spending over thirty percent on their credit card

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Speaker 1: gonna mess they credit up. Before the bill cycle hit,

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Speaker 1: they know that they can now you know, utilize their

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Speaker 1: their capital before that bill cycle hit, so that now

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Speaker 1: they're not getting put all outs for interest. So they're

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Speaker 1: rotating this money making money they know how to get

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Speaker 1: cash back cash rewards cards when they spending money to

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Speaker 1: pit it in their savings account when it earns enough

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Speaker 1: money to now move the money in this free money

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Speaker 1: off of spending money. But we can't teach that, and

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Speaker 1: we don't know that, and all we can know is

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Speaker 1: what's going on these communities to survive. Like I said, well,

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Speaker 1: I come from that in Philly. I was bored to

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Speaker 1: just survive. And my day of living it was my

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Speaker 1: dad survival. I ain't thinking about tomorrow. So I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to teach my generation now, let's worry about tomorrow. Because

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Speaker 1: when you got our kids, got to lead them set

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Speaker 1: up for when you ain't here, you got to take

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Speaker 1: care of them from the grave. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: That's why we're doing as a life insurance initiative right now. Wow,

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Speaker 1: you know I love as we progress through this interview, Derek,

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Speaker 1: how you your energy your comfort zone with me has

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Speaker 1: just picked up and keep transferring to an even more

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Speaker 1: positive level. But the number one thing when I talk

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Speaker 1: about and I meet individuals like you, because you're a

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Speaker 1: self made person, Like I said, you're not ashamed of

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Speaker 1: your journey now because at the beginning. I always talk

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Speaker 1: about friends, family, and don't let anybody stop you from

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Speaker 1: living your dream and stop you from planning your dream. Okay,

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Speaker 1: when you talk about the community and the next step,

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Speaker 1: what is Big Dave's future? How do you? How do

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Speaker 1: you conceptualize that deal? Who do you? Because you know

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Speaker 1: it ain't you no more than seven hundred and fifty

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Speaker 1: scrabfoot shall gas station by yourself. You have to put

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Speaker 1: a team around you. What does that team look like?

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Speaker 1: So I'll teach so our listeners and our viewers can understand.

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Speaker 1: When you grow, grow has to be surrounded by quality.

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Speaker 1: You have to spend money to keep that qualities around

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Speaker 1: you in order if you dream to grow. I like

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Speaker 1: this topic right here because a lot of people, you know, um,

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Speaker 1: they might tell me I'm too top heavy with the

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Speaker 1: locations that I have. But the thing is, if you ain't,

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Speaker 1: if you're ready, you ain't got to get ready. You

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Speaker 1: know when that moment happens. So I'm about to open

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Speaker 1: my third location in Jones Brow, Georgia. Hopefully you know

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Speaker 1: the doors will open this summer. You know a lot

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Speaker 1: is going through with the pandemic, so it's pushing a

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Speaker 1: lot of materials back, you know, and a lot of

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Speaker 1: stuff is on hold. But in the midst of in

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Speaker 1: the midst of everything that I'm done with my brand,

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Speaker 1: I'm about to pay eight rows in the market where

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Speaker 1: you're about to be able to go and your nearest

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Speaker 1: stories and be able to make your own eight rows

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Speaker 1: whenever you want big days. And that's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: big thing for me because that's a dream of mine.

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Speaker 1: Is going to market. I'm coming out with the new

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Speaker 1: Big Dave seasoning. You're gonna be able to come in

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Speaker 1: Big Dave Stories and you're gonna be able to pick

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Speaker 1: up the same season and we make the product with

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Speaker 1: So when you want to become your own Big Dave

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Speaker 1: at home, you do it. You know, I just want

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Speaker 1: for me, like philanthropy is a big thing for me,

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Speaker 1: you know, building this brand. I love it just as

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Speaker 1: much as I love, you know, the restaurant space. I

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Speaker 1: love talking to people because, for one, I know that

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Speaker 1: I'm giving them real game that I've been through in

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Speaker 1: my life to help them change theirs. No, I don't

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Speaker 1: think I know everything but me at thirty four years old,

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Speaker 1: I was blessed in a lot of ways that you know,

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Speaker 1: a lot of people may not have got to yet,

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Speaker 1: and I can now help them when they get to

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Speaker 1: this situation in their life. They're not making those same

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Speaker 1: mistakes I made. Now, let me tell you something, Mistakes

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Speaker 1: costs in a business. Right when you're in business, mistakes costs.

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Speaker 1: It costs. When I mean it costs. It's more than money.

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Speaker 1: It hurt you in the finance side. But scaling the business,

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Speaker 1: you need your CRRO to be good, your COO to

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Speaker 1: be good, your GMS to be good, your assistant managers

529
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Speaker 1: to be good, your fry cooks, your grilled cooks. Everybody

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Speaker 1: is a is a motor that works to able to

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Speaker 1: operate this vehicle, and without that, you can't scale. And

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Speaker 1: it took me years to really be able to get

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Speaker 1: that together because, like I said, I love heart, so

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Speaker 1: I see the best out of people. Sometimes they dont

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Speaker 1: seeing themselves. But I was also told this by multiple

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Speaker 1: different billionaires and this was my blessing. Right, you know,

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Speaker 1: you're never going to scale if you don't get thick

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Speaker 1: skin to be able to do it because these same

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Speaker 1: people aren't gonna be with you. The ones that belong

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Speaker 1: what you're gonna be with you because they want to

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Speaker 1: better themselves along the journey. But the ones who just

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Speaker 1: tagging along and the business is growing and they're not growing,

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Speaker 1: you know, you're gonna eventually have to leave them or

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Speaker 1: the business is going to leave you. And if the

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Speaker 1: business leave the CEO, you know what happens after that

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Speaker 1: goes It goes down the dream And and that's what

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Speaker 1: I'm not building. Like I told you, this a highness

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Speaker 1: to my father, I know, and the end of this

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna building. I'm building a billion dollar business. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna have big days everywhere. After Jonesborough, we am gonna

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Speaker 1: leave the state because I feel like it's enough big

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Speaker 1: days right now the state of Georgia. UM And I

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Speaker 1: don't want to oversaturate the market. I want people to

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Speaker 1: really um continue to love the brand the way they

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Speaker 1: love the brand. UM and I want to keep on

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Speaker 1: setting the bar high and setting the culture and what

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Speaker 1: I got going on outside of you know, just the

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Speaker 1: big Davi's brand. You know, me and Pinky we jumped

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Speaker 1: in real estate heavy. We're buying up a lot of

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Speaker 1: real estate right now. And the reason why we're doing

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Speaker 1: that is because we're trying to build up these communities.

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Speaker 1: So when stuff ain't looking right in these communities. Which

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Speaker 1: better to say it. It's people that look just like

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Speaker 1: the people that's from these communities building them up, and

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Speaker 1: ain't developers tearing them up and moving them out. You

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, right, We're gonna keep them. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna keep them in, We're gonna give them jobs. And

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Speaker 1: the way we're gonna do that is all these companies

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Speaker 1: were building. Love it, you know some Derek. First of all,

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Speaker 1: when Jones burd opened up, you better contact me. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I got you because I want to be there. Like

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Speaker 1: I said, I'm right down the street from your location

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Speaker 1: over there, Brand Mark, I'm right now, that's where you at.

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Speaker 1: I'm right down the street from that. And so my

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Speaker 1: staff supports it. First of all, a joy they talk

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Speaker 1: to you. Your passion, your information, your gift, man, your gift,

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Speaker 1: and a blessing your entrepreneurial spirit. You are what America

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Speaker 1: is built on, a land of opportunity. You know, we

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Speaker 1: should never be denied based on the color of our

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Speaker 1: skin or the education that people perceived we don't have.

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Speaker 1: You are the person that I bring on the show

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Speaker 1: to educate my audience that anything is possible and I

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Speaker 1: want to thank you for coming up Money Making Conversation

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Speaker 1: master Class. Thank you man, and I thank you for

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Speaker 1: having me, and I want to release one more thing. OK,

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Speaker 1: people listening, So it's not about how you start. It's

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Speaker 1: not about what's gonna happen in the middle of that race.

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Speaker 1: You shoot, get untied, your soul, getting messed up, your

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Speaker 1: sneak and fall off. Just finish the race. Don't worry

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Speaker 1: about the place you're gonna be in because as long

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Speaker 1: as you finish the race, the job is done. And

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Speaker 1: when a job is done, guess what you can say

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Speaker 1: at the end of the day. I finished the man

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Speaker 1: because I wasn't worrying about the race. You know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. So at the end of it all, you

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Speaker 1: gave it all you got. As long as you give

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Speaker 1: it all you got, and you finished that line as

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Speaker 1: long as you crossed it. Be proud of yourself and

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Speaker 1: your journey, and stop sizing and stuff up to other people,

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Speaker 1: because guy got everybody journey for themselves to be able

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Speaker 1: to better other people. You don't know. It may feel

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Speaker 1: like that man or that woman got that success of

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Speaker 1: a night, but you don't know what they've been through

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Speaker 1: to get that success. Absolutely, it's not attract meets of marathon.

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Speaker 1: So I always remember that. I love it because I

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Speaker 1: always tell people that, you know, don't look at that's

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Speaker 1: the old it's saying, don't look at somebody else's y'all.

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Speaker 1: You know, you don't have to explain the word. I finished,

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Speaker 1: versus I quit. I quit you out to explain it.

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Speaker 1: I finished me and I made maximum effort to get

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Speaker 1: the job done. That's all you're saying. And I love it. Brother.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk in person because I want to sit

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Speaker 1: down and just chat with your time man, because you're special. Again.

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Speaker 1: I've had Pinky on the show. Both of y'all are special.

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Speaker 1: But congratulations. You know, mister Jews ever a Big Dave's cheesecake.

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Speaker 1: You know, mister sexy, mister sexy, mister look got the

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Speaker 1: te fall out there, you know, forty three tattoos straight

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Speaker 1: out of Philly, Big Dave. Gee, thank you, bro, keep

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Speaker 1: doing your thing. I see you being the kitchen whipping

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Speaker 1: up your recipe. Chee steak man. I love it, man,

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Speaker 1: stay strong, steak man. Thank you man. All Right, we

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Speaker 1: talked soon. If you want to hear us, see any

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Speaker 1: Conversations dot com. I'm with Sean McDonald. I am your host,

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Speaker 1: Derek Man, a super super great interview. Brother, You're a

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Speaker 1: special man. Okay, hey man, it was good talking to you.

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Speaker 1: I could have talked to your father. Brother. Well, hey, listen,

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Speaker 1: I'll be saying you whip up on your page. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I see you going on Buba drop out. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: let you know when I come back. So sit down, man,

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Speaker 1: Let's sit down. Let's talk. Man. Okay, stay strong. Thank you, bye, bro,

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Speaker 1: thank you. We'll be right back with more money Making

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Speaker 1: with dancer and actress Sky Alvester Black, He's disgust the

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Speaker 1: necessity of yielding to what God has for you, and

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Speaker 1: even when you can't see it for yourself. Always to

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Speaker 1: think you want and follow what will God has for you. Yes,

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Speaker 1: in your life. And I always say when I prayed,

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Speaker 1: but I prayed. I said, I want to be on TV,

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Speaker 1: and that was my destiny. I felt like God gave

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Speaker 1: me an angel in Debila to notice what was already

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Speaker 1: going to do my destiny down the line and walk

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Speaker 1: fully in purpose. I'm a true believer of that. You

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Speaker 1: can listen to this full interview with Sky Alvester Black.

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Speaker 1: It's available on money Making Now Let's return to Money

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Speaker 1: Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald and it's fun and

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Speaker 1: it's just you know, it's I think about, you know,

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Speaker 1: when we grew up. Let me let me just start

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Speaker 1: the interview, Drico, let's get this start. I'm about the

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Speaker 1: I'm about I'm about to start crying talking about talking

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Speaker 1: about it because everybody can't relate the big families, you

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I'm about to go start reminiscing.

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Speaker 1: You know I was in the hood, you know, two

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Speaker 1: to campus. They're gonna count us down. And then I'm

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Speaker 1: going to introduce the show, and then I'm gonna set

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Speaker 1: up the show talking about the upcoming third season and

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Speaker 1: um and we go from there. But just a nice,

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Speaker 1: comfortable show. We're gonna find laugh and you guys are

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Speaker 1: gonna give me some advice and I'm gonna share with

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Speaker 1: my audience. Okay, perfect. I really love kids. That's what

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Speaker 1: she says all the time. I mean, live kids. You

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Speaker 1: don't know that you carrying chills. I live kids. Welcome

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Speaker 1: of Money Making Conversation master Class. I am your host,

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Speaker 1: ras Sean McDonald. I recognize that we all have different

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Speaker 1: definitions of success. For you, it may be the size

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Speaker 1: of your paycheck. Mine is inspiring people to accomplish their

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Speaker 1: goals and live their very best life. It's time to

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Speaker 1: stop reading other people's success stories and start writing your own.

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Speaker 1: People always talk about your purpose or gifts. If you

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Speaker 1: have a gift, lead with your gifts and don't let

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Speaker 1: your friends, family, or co workers stop you from planning

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Speaker 1: or living your dreams. My next guests are Karen and

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Speaker 1: Dion Dereco. They're promoting their TLC show doubling down with

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Speaker 1: the Drico. The fan favorite series is airing season three.

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Speaker 1: Now they so happy, I said today right, Navigating life

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Speaker 1: with kist y'all ten plus four fourteen, including four sets

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Speaker 1: or naturally conceived multiples is never easy. I grew up

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Speaker 1: with six sisters two brothers, so I know the never

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Speaker 1: easy story. And that's why people always wonder why eat

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Speaker 1: up the third season for y'all kids are getting old

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Speaker 1: to see. See when you can just tell the kids

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Speaker 1: shut up. At some point they don't. They ain't working

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Speaker 1: no more. Including a fifteen year old quest for independence

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Speaker 1: and a driver's license, eleven year old ten year old

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Speaker 1: twins developing their first questions for your triple starting preschool

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Speaker 1: plus party training. I saw them all sitting on the

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Speaker 1: taller a trip to Disney Disneyland. Imagine all of them

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Speaker 1: As soon as they walked up, fast pass, they are passed.

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Speaker 1: They are a fast pass killer. New health issues and

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Speaker 1: more in the midst of the regular chaos of raising

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Speaker 1: childing do the Recods also in the brick of a

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Speaker 1: big decision moving cross country to South Carolina. I know

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Speaker 1: about the low country, great food down there. Okay, Karen's

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Speaker 1: she try to go back down there, you know, swoopy

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Speaker 1: ahead that the Recods, We're facing together. This is how

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Speaker 1: raise this unique family. Please welcome to Bundy Make Conversations

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Speaker 1: master Class. Karen and Dan do we call I love it?

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Speaker 1: I love it? You know? You know? And when I

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Speaker 1: first heard about the show coming on, you know it

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Speaker 1: because people look at it anything that's unusual as a novelty.

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Speaker 1: That's a novelty. And so let's go back to and

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Speaker 1: you you know, you guys didn't do this to be

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Speaker 1: to be some type of this word like a shell

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Speaker 1: freak show or novel or novelty. So who contacted you

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Speaker 1: and who had to convince who to do the show?

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Speaker 1: I don't think it was any convincing. Both Karen Back

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Speaker 1: and we discussed it, you know, we talked about what

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Speaker 1: we would do with such a platform and how platform

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Speaker 1: that no matter what, we stayed true too, of course,

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Speaker 1: who we are, and we wanted to too many people

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Speaker 1: that may be facing some of the challenges in which

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Speaker 1: you would watch on our show, right, and so then

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Speaker 1: you see on our show it's real, it's us, it's

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Speaker 1: a life, and we're showing how we navigate through those

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Speaker 1: many challenges. We're just a large family, no different from

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Speaker 1: anyone else except the fact there's so many of us. Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know I come from a large family, six sisters,

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Speaker 1: two brothers, and there is a difference. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: it's feeding a big family, you know. Feeding that's because

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Speaker 1: you know it's like you have to wait in line

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Speaker 1: for the food. You have to like this, no getting

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Speaker 1: around it, okay, you know you have to get to

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Speaker 1: make enough food. People are And I was just a

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't say impoverished, but we wasn't wasn't middle class,

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Speaker 1: and so I would I was, I was still in college.

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Speaker 1: I was always used a spoon. I wouldn't even a

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Speaker 1: spoon all the time. In fact, if you gave me,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't even use a knife to cut I use

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Speaker 1: I didn't even think about that. Because when you don't

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Speaker 1: have a lot do you was available? It becomes normal

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Speaker 1: because normal and I'm not saying you guys live that life,

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Speaker 1: but I'm just saying, is that you make adjustments to

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Speaker 1: be able to provide for you. Like I thought that

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Speaker 1: so what a justice have you guys made so your

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Speaker 1: children can be as normal as possible in an environment

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Speaker 1: with fourteen kids? That's a good question. What do we

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Speaker 1: do to make it normal? Is you know, children follow

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Speaker 1: the head right with the parents. So I think the

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Speaker 1: to what we wanted in life, where we expected to go.

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Speaker 1: We talked about having a lot of children. We just

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Speaker 1: didn't anticipate having all these multiples. That right, right, that's

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Speaker 1: a surprise, God, trich God. But we did understand and

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Speaker 1: actually talked about how we wanted to parent, what type

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Speaker 1: of relationship we wanted to have with our children. And

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Speaker 1: so from having said that, thank god I got into

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Speaker 1: real estate very very early, and that those were the funds.

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Speaker 1: The funds were available to allow for she and I

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Speaker 1: to be at home with them. That's the biggest blessing

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Speaker 1: that we were able to give our children is we're

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Speaker 1: both at home parents because we look the income that

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Speaker 1: would sustain us being able to be at home. My

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Speaker 1: wife specializes in early childhood education. So with that being said,

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Speaker 1: she's a teacher, and then mine teaching them in life

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Speaker 1: and the streat mentality. I grew up in a very

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Speaker 1: hard area like yourself, and so educating on so many levels,

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Speaker 1: and she and I giving them the level of education

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Speaker 1: that we did as being important such as financial literacy,

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Speaker 1: right you know these this wasn't talked to me in

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Speaker 1: school about read it and why you need to read it,

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Speaker 1: an interest rates. And so having said that, we were

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Speaker 1: able together to put together such a plan, and I mean,

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Speaker 1: A great plan that she and I put together, and

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Speaker 1: so answering your question as to how did we prepare

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Speaker 1: we started from the ground up, baby, and we built

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Speaker 1: this thing the right way, you know. And it's important

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Speaker 1: to have two heads communicating, you know, communicat especially with

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Speaker 1: the family in this side. And it's equally important to

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Speaker 1: have the male's participation, especially on the feet of the

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Speaker 1: girl's side. The daughters and I play a role. I

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Speaker 1: can tell if my absences in my daughter's life, if

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Speaker 1: the world, she would be a different person because she

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Speaker 1: respects the process and that's the process, you know. Whoever,

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Speaker 1: how I treat her and raise her, it's the type

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Speaker 1: of man she may marry or date, you know, based

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Speaker 1: on the value she see. Well, Daddy treated me like this,

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Speaker 1: or Daddy didn't give me Christmas prayers, or Daddy didn't

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Speaker 1: think much of my birthday, then gets what the man

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Speaker 1: in my life? Okay, if he does the same thing,

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Speaker 1: and that could be like you know, parental abuse in

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Speaker 1: the sense. To me, I always tell people what you

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Speaker 1: would you teach your child because they come in the world.

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Speaker 1: Like I always the blessing of this shows me is

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Speaker 1: this is that And I'm talking to Karen and theco

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Speaker 1: TLC is that these kids didn't ask to come into

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Speaker 1: this world. And I always tell me that's why, that's

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Speaker 1: why I see parents and the child abuse. I just

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Speaker 1: it angers me. It angers me and when it come

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Speaker 1: into this world, that's a responsibility with each case, Like

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Speaker 1: you said, you didn't expect multiple child children being born

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Speaker 1: at each time. You once you recognize that, you knew

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Speaker 1: you had to plan for that. So as each situation

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Speaker 1: happened emotionally, what did that do for you? The motivation?

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Speaker 1: Because you know you are kids over here, okay, and

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Speaker 1: normally when you're pregnant you're bringing one child. Additional child

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Speaker 1: in the world, you bring multiple How does that? How

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Speaker 1: do you balance that conversation Karen as a mother in

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Speaker 1: regards to these additional kids that you bring on and

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Speaker 1: being able to maintain that love balance it is. That's

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Speaker 1: a really good question. You know, I first start with

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Speaker 1: this was a you know, we asked when drink. When

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Speaker 1: conversation and the question is asked, how many children you want?

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Speaker 1: You know, it was how many? Ever got how many

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Speaker 1: God blesses me to have? And I feel as though

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Speaker 1: with each pregnancy and when the multiples especially started to

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Speaker 1: come along, we were extremely grateful. But we also looked

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Speaker 1: at it as God believed them. And this is we

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Speaker 1: want to make sure that they contribute to society. Want

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Speaker 1: to raise them in a way where they are positively

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Speaker 1: contributing into society. So the justice that we make is,

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Speaker 1: you know what God gave you, all gave you us

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Speaker 1: for a reason, right, and he knew that He knew

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Speaker 1: that you were you were all well all tell our mustiples,

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Speaker 1: you were so special A God made a partner right

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Speaker 1: here on a higher accord and you have to answer

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Speaker 1: that call. And it's our job to nurture you and

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Speaker 1: to figure that out, and that to help find your

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Speaker 1: place and like you said, your purpose and your gifts.

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Speaker 1: And we they go by without reminding them that you

850
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 1: are here for a reason. Let's let's find your special

851
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: gift and let's share it with the world. Right and

852
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 1: then being the responsibility because you know that, then you

853
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: know the era we live in. And you know, look

854
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 1: at television, the George Floyd's situation, the pandemic, and and

855
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,919
Speaker 1: this this is not the world we grew up in. Okay, technology,

856
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 1: you know your children and they don't. You have to

857
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 1: tell them about the version B. You have to keep

858
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: them off their cell phone. You know what I'm saying.

859
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 1: You know, so you don't want to learn the wrong way. So, Derek,

860
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 1: as as as as the man as to being able to,

861
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 1: you know, certain things you can't control? What what as

862
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:05,399
Speaker 1: as the father? What responsibility in this new era? Because

863
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 1: you got fourteen of them? Okay, it's bad enough trying

864
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 1: to keep two under control or one under control, but

865
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 1: fourteen of them, okay, and then you got some of

866
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: them that think they know warn you when they hit

867
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: that age that's where they had on the show in

868
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: the third season. How's your dad? You know, you maintaining

869
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 1: that when you're not losing the rest of your head

870
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: because somebody's turning great, it's probably about to take over.

871
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: It's about to take over this season, You're about to

872
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 1: take over. That's why I got to add on right now,

873
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: my brothers, that's what the head is on right now. Okay,

874
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 1: hear me, but no, everything right on the um. It's

875
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:43,959
Speaker 1: very important that we set the tone and the standard. Yeah,

876
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 1: the tone and the one of the very first things

877
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: we do with all of our children. We remind them

878
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: of their importance and we let so that we validate them.

879
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 1: Only topic can validate them. No one in the street,

880
00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 1: no one outside of this home has the authority need

881
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: to validate them. That's one, right, And when we validate them,

882
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 1: we validate them with greatness. Uh. And in order for

883
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: us to change the trajectory in which we see as

884
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: some of the things go right now within the world,

885
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: we have to set a standard of greatness in the

886
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: mind of our youth. Because once that standard has been

887
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 1: properly placed, they won't be so quick to throw their

888
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: lives away. But something that appears to be great in

889
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: that moment, right, That's one of the key things is

890
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: having something worth having, something worth fighting for right, Well,

891
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 1: were then life to prevent you from making a very

892
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 1: bad decision without right right? You know? The interesting thing

893
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: about is that you know as they get older, and

894
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 1: because you have kids watching kids, okay, they see them

895
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,320
Speaker 1: they're older, can get away with Okay, now you this

896
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: upcoming third season the drivers license, the independence. So so

897
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 1: when talking parenting, now you know parenting, won't on't want though,

898
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 1: you know, just because you see that happened, I don't

899
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 1: mean it's gonna happen for you. Or they said, well

900
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: he can do it or she can do it. Why

901
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: can't I do it? How are you dealing with that?

902
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 1: I see this? She gets away with that, he gets

903
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: here with that? How are you getting here with that?

904
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 1: How are you controlling the yin and the yang in

905
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,959
Speaker 1: the house from these kids saying that you favorite him?

906
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: You did even do that. I can't do that. I

907
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:27,320
Speaker 1: want to go that. I'm old enough. Respect me. Oh

908
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 1: it's coming up now. This is this season three, this

909
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: season three, now, this season three, now, Karen, because I'll

910
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 1: be watching the show, because here's the funny park. When

911
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: y'all sitting that sofa, care you'd be looking lively. Then

912
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: he'd be on that sofa time, git me sit, git

913
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 1: me laying back on that sofa. He be looking like

914
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,919
Speaker 1: he about twenty five years older. He'd be so time.

915
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: You don't know, I'd be laughing up my wife looking

916
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: at it. Boy, he tied, he tied. He don't care

917
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 1: about the cameras no more, he had forgot their own.

918
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,040
Speaker 1: Chara still trying to sit up right then here, I

919
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 1: just I'm on this so for y'all, Honey, supposed to

920
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 1: get my seat away? Hey, hey, hey, you know I'm

921
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:13,240
Speaker 1: telling the truth, Jimmy, she may chain that camera. Pose

922
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 1: she staying um right on that sofar you see you

923
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 1: right there? The boy he can sofa. You leaned back.

924
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 1: Oh he missing as a beer. It's only missing as

925
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 1: a beer. It's beautiful. I love it because of the

926
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 1: fact that that's why I was so excited to talk

927
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 1: to you guys, because it's such a real image of

928
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:40,320
Speaker 1: familihood and the fact that I come from that large

929
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: family environment. I know you know when and I'm not

930
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to place you guys, because lord knows,

931
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: my parents were not in the real estate. My dad

932
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 1: was a truck driver, third grade education, my mom graduate

933
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 1: from high school. That's that's the life I drove, Race,

934
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 1: not the life that your children are raising it. But

935
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 1: it didn't stop me from being great, stop me from

936
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: dreaming and realizing that the impossible as possible. And that's

937
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: where we're here on this show all the time. But

938
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: as parents tell us, a little bit of what's coming

939
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,439
Speaker 1: up this season because I don't want to give away

940
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 1: all the tricks. But it's an interesting season because of

941
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 1: the fact that it's kind of like a coming of

942
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 1: age because you knew you did the first season, and

943
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: you learn some things the second season. Not. The kids

944
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 1: kind of know, they know what they know what's going

945
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: on now, and they're kind of pitching a little bit

946
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,800
Speaker 1: of ideas too, Well, why can't we do this? So

947
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 1: so Daddy talk about controlling this family, holding them down,

948
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 1: keeping them ship ship shape for season three. The ship

949
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,439
Speaker 1: shape is something we put in place years ago. Thank god,

950
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 1: you've seen regarding our children on Dubbing Down with the Dricos,

951
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:51,800
Speaker 1: which is on TLC and you can stream us a

952
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: Discovery Plus D I ain't about to say goodbye now,

953
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 1: say it's a goodbye. That's a goodbye right there? You

954
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 1: know you're saying all the credits and there thing. Uh

955
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 1: we on TLC doubling Down with the Ricos. Okay, continue,

956
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 1: let me talk to you, Let me talk to you.

957
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: He gonna keep talking like that, Karen, is she gonna

958
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 1: talking like you know? He? You know, here an announcer,

959
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 1: Where where's this fun guy? I see on TV he

960
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 1: just went in pr mode. U on TLC is a

961
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: family or in his show doubling Down with the Dricos,

962
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 1: he changed his voice and everything where that guy on

963
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 1: the so for tied, that's the guy I want to

964
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 1: talk to. I gotta make it ready for those viewers

965
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 1: of yours is they may not know And so it

966
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 1: had been a minute since the last time you said it,

967
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: So we'll continue, sir, I apologize. I apologize, don't worries

968
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 1: so anyway, as I was saying, doubling down every plus.

969
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 1: But one of the things you'll see is you'll see

970
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:02,399
Speaker 1: how we uh deal with the esoterics of having two

971
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:06,879
Speaker 1: year old babies that are being trained and sixteen year

972
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,919
Speaker 1: old who wants to drive now yes, and who's still

973
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 1: talking about dating, and that's in between there, that's going

974
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 1: through the many stages. I think one of the things

975
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,839
Speaker 1: that's so unique about our show is that we had

976
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 1: and about our family is that we have so many

977
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 1: different ages that we have to cater so much going

978
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: on constantly, all at one time, and thank god we

979
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 1: both have each other. I don't know how we would

980
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 1: naviget yeah through it, and we definitely let our children

981
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:37,720
Speaker 1: know that just because one person is doing something doesn't

982
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: mean that you get to do something else, Like we

983
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 1: have to find you know, they'll say, well, like how

984
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 1: you said earlier, you know what this one's trying to drip.

985
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 1: I want to get understand when's right when you're not

986
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: ready yet, you're not ready to the various reasons, and

987
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,839
Speaker 1: we explain it to them and it goes back to

988
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: read directing them about what they are, you know, what

989
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: they should be doing, what they should be learning, and

990
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 1: just nurturing talents that they have. You know, Darien is

991
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 1: of an age whereas she is, you know, eager to

992
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: learn to drive, and that's what Poppy and I are

993
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 1: going to be doing to make sure she learns. And

994
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: when you get to that point will also help you, um,

995
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 1: you know, get your driver's from middle license on. However

996
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:17,479
Speaker 1: that is at that time. But meantime, let's focus on

997
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 1: something else right now, and so you know, we make

998
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 1: sure we we we close that up real quick with that.

999
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 1: Oh well, they get to do it, okay, So she

1000
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 1: got that tone though she heard it. Oh well, yeah,

1001
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:37,320
Speaker 1: absolutely absolutely. We'll be right back with more money Making Conversations.

1002
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: Masterclass with Rashan McDonald. Now let's return to Money Making

1003
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 1: Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald. You know, the thing about

1004
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 1: it is that you know, this is TV, so there's

1005
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 1: entertainment that's editing. You know, people create situations, but the

1006
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: bottom line is just being making sure you're you're don't

1007
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,360
Speaker 1: get damaged by the process. You know, this is you

1008
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,359
Speaker 1: know that that's the key because like I will tell you,

1009
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: they can stop to show the bar, you know, but

1010
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 1: you still gotta be great parents. You still got to

1011
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 1: provide for them. And and that's what I love about

1012
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 1: the show because this is not this is something, this

1013
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 1: is a tool and show people that they can parent.

1014
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 1: But one thing that I wanted to talk to people

1015
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 1: who hadn't saw the shows, and you should watch the show,

1016
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: tell them how you you you know they have the

1017
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 1: chores with the kids, how you have the scheduling, the

1018
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 1: mills and everything. So they get the sense of the

1019
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 1: level of professionalism that goes into because this is this

1020
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 1: is a job. Okay, this is a job. Don't get

1021
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 1: a chore. Now, you can't come in there and problem

1022
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 1: with fourteen kids. You can't in problem with fourteen kids.

1023
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 1: And so because if they do it the kids to

1024
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 1: see it that the kids are smart. They see things

1025
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 1: that you they remember things that you may have thought

1026
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 1: they didn't even see. And so how does how does

1027
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 1: the chores the chores and happen, and how does the

1028
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: whole of the meals and getting them up and getting

1029
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 1: them ready at work, Because like you said, you have

1030
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 1: different age groups, so different age group of me, you

1031
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 1: have to treat them all differently. Yes, yes, so mommy

1032
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 1: works with getting them up in the morning. Again, mommy

1033
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 1: does the homeschooling, so she works them up setting that up.

1034
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 1: And then I'm the cook in the house, so I'll

1035
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 1: start getting their breakfast together and their lunch and of

1036
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 1: course dinner. But of course I'm doing it, you know,

1037
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:32,280
Speaker 1: as a day progresses, and every child, every human being

1038
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 1: in this house has a responsibility to the house right,

1039
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:40,760
Speaker 1: no pree ride. And that's for many, many, many reasons

1040
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,359
Speaker 1: why we do that, because we're teaching them how to

1041
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 1: work with the team, and we are their first team.

1042
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:50,319
Speaker 1: And so saying that even the younger babies will go

1043
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,879
Speaker 1: put trash, and you know something in the trash, we'll

1044
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:57,320
Speaker 1: get a diner or full up where everyone is doing something.

1045
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 1: And it also creates that camaraderie amongst the family. And

1046
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 1: so there's so many different levels to this thing. I

1047
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 1: mean this this conversation is not even long enough for

1048
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 1: us to have it for me to catch you up

1049
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 1: on all the things that we do. But mommy has

1050
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 1: a great system. I just you know, they're homeschool to

1051
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 1: do a wonderful homeschool blended program. So they're everyone is

1052
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: you know, up by seven thirty, um, in front of

1053
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 1: their laptop. Two start school at nine, School is over

1054
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:31,399
Speaker 1: at twelve. We start homework. We're done by three, and

1055
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 1: then by five dinner is um getting in our belly.

1056
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 1: That that family time. And then by thirty everyone is

1057
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 1: in the bed. And so when we try to do

1058
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: as much as we can throughout the day and coordinate

1059
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 1: effective communication, texting each other, Hey I got disappointment, I

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00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 1: got that one or this one. You know, we're constantly

1061
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 1: talking about that, and then um, we try to have

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00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 1: a little mean time at night, which ends up probably

1063
00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 1: watching us the television, the night news watching us, but um,

1064
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 1: and we just try to get that that time like

1065
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 1: that you threw that in y'all just and fell asleep

1066
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 1: in front of television. See I do that look watching us.

1067
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 1: I do that. Look, that's that's a grown folks were

1068
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: tied line watching us, news watching us. Don't care, don't try.

1069
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 1: I'm a whole school care you can't slip them lives

1070
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 1: back as a whole school and like me now news

1071
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 1: watching us. We know we we tried, but wake up

1072
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: is old school. We wake up just the flag and

1073
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: beyond back in the den in the sixties, you know,

1074
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 1: one of the key promotional moments of you guys, go move.

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00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 1: It's promoting the fact that moving to South Carolina, which

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00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 1: I love South Carolina by the way, Charles to South

1077
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 1: Carolina is one of my favorite city, low country everybody,

1078
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: good food, good people, good atmosphere. And that was that

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00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 1: a planned part or was it three years ago? Was

1080
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:59,400
Speaker 1: that a played decision to move or how did that

1081
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: come about? Well? I lost my grandmother. Um, I lost

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00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 1: my grandmother and my uncle within six months time period

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00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 1: and COVID and that was just a lot. And you

1084
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 1: already know when someone passes as a way of course

1085
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 1: it you know, death mix the living reflect on their

1086
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 1: life and the life. And so when that happened, I

1087
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:26,319
Speaker 1: had a conversation with Drico and just talked to him

1088
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 1: and let them know that, you know, we're far away.

1089
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:30,840
Speaker 1: My children don't really know a lot of my side

1090
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 1: of the family m due to the fact that we

1091
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 1: live so far away, and I wouldn't mind moving closer home,

1092
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 1: but it had to make sense. So that's when I,

1093
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 1: you know, brought about the business idea to Drico and

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00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:47,280
Speaker 1: Um and we just started talking about it. And Drico,

1095
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 1: who's a phenomenal husband, I had a recent stroke scare

1096
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:54,720
Speaker 1: on last season, and he was like, you know, whatever

1097
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 1: you want to do, baby, I'll do it. You know.

1098
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 1: He was just one of those those moments where we're like,

1099
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 1: oh my god, think died and it wasn't a stroke

1100
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 1: and ended up being a muscle spasm and talking about that,

1101
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: and that's how it came about, you know, just do

1102
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 1: we move back home or how do we do this right?

1103
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 1: And then when you make it the move because you

1104
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:18,760
Speaker 1: know you're still these are the decisions they made together,

1105
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 1: but they still impact you. Could they make your mind

1106
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: role because that wasn't a part of your process because

1107
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 1: you know, you're carrying me in a planners. You know,

1108
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 1: we're playing stuff and you know it's like driving with

1109
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 1: no direction. We'll just keep driving and try to get there.

1110
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 1: And so so when this plan in his mind, he

1111
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 1: had a plan. So she brought this plan to you,

1112
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 1: how did you you know, processing in your brain and

1113
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 1: said this, this is something that good for the entire family.

1114
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 1: Is something we had to do because this is the

1115
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 1: woman I love, and and the and the mother my

1116
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 1: fourteen kids. Absolutely so, m that's a very good question,

1117
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 1: one of them things one of my makers terms of course,

1118
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 1: as you just said, this mother of my children and

1119
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 1: that's her husband. I have a respond to listen to

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00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 1: what you know she wants to do, try to put

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00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 1: it in a forum that works for everyone. Right. So,

1122
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:12,280
Speaker 1: but at the same time, you know, we're having pushed

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00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 1: back from you know, some of the other family members,

1124
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 1: like some of the children said, I have Eric and Gig,

1125
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 1: they're not really into doing it. So the job is

1126
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 1: trying to find that happy spot in the middle. And

1127
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 1: then remember I'm a businessman, so I'm an investor. That's

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00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 1: how a family And so when she mentioned it, I

1129
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 1: thought it was a very good idea from a financial perspective.

1130
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 1: If we're able to secure the financial backing, if we're

1131
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 1: able to funding from the right investors, I could see it.

1132
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:46,879
Speaker 1: They're very lucrative. So for me, I was torn with

1133
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:49,759
Speaker 1: I want to stay here in Vegas, but this is

1134
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 1: a very lucrative opportunity for us to create something great

1135
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 1: for our family, and I love her for having such

1136
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 1: a great idea. So of course it's battling, and that's

1137
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:03,479
Speaker 1: what you're gonna see is the battle between I want

1138
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 1: to do it for the financial freedom that it would

1139
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 1: give us, yes, sir, But time I'm torn between one

1140
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 1: of the state bakers, myself plus the rest of the

1141
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 1: family want to stay here and we'll be able to

1142
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 1: find enough financial securing or backing to make such a

1143
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 1: thing happen. So there's a lot that has to get

1144
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 1: figured out that we still have not figured out. Okay,

1145
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 1: let me say that right still, but there's a lot

1146
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 1: to deal with. And you know, as being as she

1147
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 1: and I we're the heads of the house, right so

1148
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 1: we have always been on one chord at some point.

1149
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 1: So we're we're working that thing out. Yeah, we're getting

1150
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 1: the stay workout, but you're gonna have I got to

1151
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 1: wrap it up there. They little think out the little

1152
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:45,439
Speaker 1: chat when it gets popped up on the screen. Five minutes, y'all,

1153
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 1: got it. Yeah, y'all been talking to it long. Y'all

1154
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 1: been having a good time. You know. Usually they didn't

1155
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 1: threat me like I can't talk to y'all. Now they're

1156
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 1: telling me that I got to stop talking to y'all.

1157
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 1: You know. That's how they're doing when you're having fun

1158
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 1: the care But I love y'all. I don't want to lose.

1159
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 1: And if you privilege because I want to be back

1160
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 1: for season four with the doubling Down with the Rico

1161
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 1: and on t let me get that voice right for

1162
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 1: you know, could be like the you know we're on

1163
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 1: TLC show, Doubling Down with the Drico's a fan favorite series,

1164
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 1: is air in season three and uh, we'll be going

1165
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 1: through all type of things and kids, you know, trying

1166
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 1: to get drivers licensed China. The fifteen year olds just

1167
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 1: out of control. But you know I'm Pops over here.

1168
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 1: You'll mess with pops mom over here. She got the

1169
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 1: four year old trip list, you know, the preschool and

1170
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 1: got potty training and all this stuff. But going to

1171
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 1: Dissy Landing, I gotta move either from Vegas, South Carolina

1172
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 1: fighting off the mosquitoes down to South Carolina. Have y'all

1173
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 1: been in South Carolina, Mosquito, the Biggest Birds. I love you.

1174
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:45,919
Speaker 1: I want to thank y'all for coming on this show

1175
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 1: and I will support this man. Y'all fun. You've been

1176
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 1: listening to Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. Always

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00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 1: remember to lead with your gifts. Money Making Conversations Masterclass

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