1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: And now Wilson comes to the left side Rogers in 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: the shotgun hal to his right on third and sixteen, 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: back to pass, Rogers looking to load up fires deep 4 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: rainbow down. 5 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 2: The field looking for Mike Williams, and it's intercepted. 6 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 3: Tarren Johnson. 7 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: Welcome back, a hu fungus interception by the nickel corner. 8 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 4: Welcome back to Taron Johnson, Welcome back to Trel Bernard, 9 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:28,479 Speaker 4: Welcome back to me. 10 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 5: I'm back state side. 11 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 4: The Buffalo Bills are back in first place in the 12 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 4: AFC East. That was Chris Brown, of course, on the 13 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 4: Bills Radio network. Bills get to win twenty three to twenty. 14 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 4: On another entertaining primetime game, Aaron Rodgers. Nick Schook has 15 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 4: a chance for the third straight week to go win 16 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 4: a game on a drive down just a few points 17 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 4: in the final minutes, and for the third straight week 18 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 4: he comes up short. Second straight week, it's an interception 19 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 4: on a pass intended for Mike Williams. Thank you, Nick, 20 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 4: by the way, for keeping the home front warm and 21 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 4: getting that Sunday night recap done just a night ago. 22 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 4: And here you are right and off a good game tonight. 23 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'll probably sleep better than Aaron Rodgers will 24 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 2: right now, because the man is clearly frustrated. Despite the 25 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 2: fact that the chain to Todd downing his play caller 26 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 2: did produce better results offensively, it ultimately ends up with 27 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 2: the same final result, which is a loss, and a 28 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 2: loss in which he, like you said, targeted Mike Williams 29 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 2: and got picked off to end their hopes and dreams. 30 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 2: I mean, it's got to be a tough time for 31 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 2: the Jets right now, but a big win for the Bills. 32 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 2: Not because it was pretty, because we're not gonna lie 33 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 2: here and say it was pretty for anybody. Statistically it 34 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 2: was pretty visually, not so much because of all the penalties, 35 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 2: but a huge win for them after losing two straight 36 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 2: to get back on the right side of things. 37 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, the penalties were crazy. It finishes with I believe 38 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 4: eleven penalties for both teams, the most penalty yards combined 39 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 4: in any game this season, and it could have been 40 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 4: even much higher because there were multiple plays in the 41 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 4: second half where there were offsetting penalties, where there was 42 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 4: a long PI that got called back because there was 43 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 4: an offensive line holding penalty, and then just like matching holding. 44 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 4: So the second half you're right, was ugly. The first 45 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 4: half was it. I mean, the Bills offense played fantastic, 46 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 4: But talking about that ending, I thought both quarterbacks played 47 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 4: quite well in this game. Josh Allen very efficient making 48 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 4: plays outside the pocket. Aaron Rodgers, I thought, probably at 49 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 4: his best game as a Jets quarterback, and considering he's 50 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 4: thrown one touchdown and eight interceptions on the season, like, 51 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 4: I actually think he's played reasonably well, but he's come 52 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 4: up short in these big spots, And it does make 53 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 4: you think about the differences between two quarterbacks, Like at 54 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 4: one point Aaron Rodgers was in the top five quarterbacks, right, 55 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 4: and it's because he had so many different ways he 56 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 4: could beat you. And you think about the way this 57 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 4: game ended with them being able to blitz and get 58 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 4: to him before that play in a couple times late, 59 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 4: whereas Josh Allen, after that interception on third and five, 60 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 4: fakes a pick to the right, runs to the left, 61 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 4: and finishes the game like one of the best running 62 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 4: quarterbacks of all time, which he is, so he can 63 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 4: beat in so many different ways. And to me, it 64 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 4: was a small difference in this game, but there was 65 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 4: a difference in quarterbacks in this game. 66 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 2: Now a small difference, but a massive difference when he 67 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 2: came down to winning football. I mean, it's that simple. 68 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 2: It's Josh Allen being able to extend plays, you know, 69 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 2: throwing a pass on the run to Ray Davis for 70 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 2: a pickup of forty two and a down they absolutely needed. 71 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 2: It was the fastest speed by a ball carrier on 72 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 2: a pass completed of that distance in the next gen 73 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 2: stats era, I believe. I mean, that's what Josh Allen 74 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 2: is capable of doing. And it's not that Aaron Rodgers 75 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 2: played poorly because he didn't. You know, he's getting the 76 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 2: ball out quickly, he's making the proper reads and everything else. 77 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 2: I feel bad for him because for a stretch there, 78 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 2: Tyron Smith was serving him up on a platter to 79 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 2: aj A Panessa for sacks and crushing hits ones that 80 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 2: drew penalty is still you know, they pile up on 81 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 2: a guy like him. But yeah, Josh Allen, you know 82 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 2: he's He's in the top three in the QB Index 83 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 2: for a reason. 84 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers. 85 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 5: There we go. It's simple. 86 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 4: I shouldn't be the only one doing self promotion on 87 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 4: this show all the time. Yes, everyone should check out 88 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 4: QB Index week after week Nick Shook killing it and yeah, 89 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 4: what what is the top three right now? Must be 90 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 4: Josh Allen, Lamar and Joe Burrow. 91 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 2: Yeah it was this past week it was Lamar, Joe Burrow, 92 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,679 Speaker 2: Josh Allen, maybe Alan behind my homes. 93 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 3: I think Allen was still. 94 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 2: At my home. 95 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 5: I might have Stroud right behind those. 96 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 3: Stroud was fifth. Yeah, he was right there. 97 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 5: Love it. 98 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, you look at Rogers' numbers. He takes five QB hits, 99 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 4: three sacks, and yet he wasn't pressured that much. And 100 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 4: so it's something that I've noticed throughout this season. He 101 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 4: gets rid of the ball quickly for the most part, 102 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 4: but when he does hold on to it, he tends 103 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 4: to take a lot of hits and the word is out. 104 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:00,159 Speaker 4: I think in blitzing him that the Bills are not 105 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 4: a heavy blitz team. But when they did blitz tonight, 106 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 4: he went one of four for eight yards and took 107 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 4: three sacks. So it has been something I think that 108 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 4: isn't shown in the numbers. That he is throwing the 109 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 4: ball well, but that when you get pressure in his face, 110 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 4: he's not reacting as well to it. Meanwhile, Josh Allen 111 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 4: on third downs tonight was six of eight two touchdowns. 112 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 4: He had the two rushing first downs, and he has 113 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 4: no interceptions on the season, which is crazy and it's 114 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 4: a little misleading. It's a little lucky. 115 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 5: Like it was. 116 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 4: The ultimate Josh Allen moment in sequenced tonight, right before halftime, 117 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 4: He's running to the right outside the pocket inside the 118 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 4: ten with under a minute left in the second quarter, 119 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 4: and he gets loose with the ball and fumbles it 120 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 4: and they happen to recover after it bounces around between 121 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 4: the Bills and the Jets. And on the very next play, 122 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 4: he makes an awesome roll out to the left where 123 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 4: he gets Dawson Knox for a touchdown that I thought 124 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 4: was going to be such a big moment in this 125 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 4: game shook, But all it did was set up Aaron 126 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 4: Rodgers for another magical hail Mary moment. After this play 127 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 4: that we're going to listen to, I was convinced the 128 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 4: Jets are winning this game. You can't lose a game 129 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 4: when Aaron Rodgers throws a hail Mary, can you. 130 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers in a shotgun, takes the snap and drops 131 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 6: back again at two man rush steps up in the pocket, 132 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,559 Speaker 6: has time and he's just gonna heave the ball towards 133 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 6: the Endzill Jets a hail mary into the Enzo. It's 134 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 6: sit around Alan Mazard, the ball pounces out. 135 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 5: He thought he had it for a touchdown. Did he 136 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 5: have it? It's a touchdown. 137 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 2: It's a hail mary touchdown to Allen Lazard. 138 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 4: Before halftime, w axq Bob with Susan that felt like 139 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 4: another moment where it's like, Wow, Aaron Rodgers is really 140 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 4: a Jet again. He's hitting the hailbary and that that 141 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 4: was the time. And the Bills end up blowing that 142 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 4: ten point lead and the Jets have a moment where 143 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 4: they actually think they take the lead, but it's called 144 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 4: back by a Tyron Smith holding penalty. You mentioned what 145 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 4: a bad night he had, but I thought, wow, okay, 146 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 4: this is going to be the night a little Rogers 147 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 4: bagic in prime time and again he gets the chance 148 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 4: with a three point deficit late in the game, but 149 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 4: it just it just didn't happen. 150 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 5: But at least he gave us that. 151 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that was you know, classic Rogers. Everybody 152 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 2: on Twitter immediately is like, hey, he did it again, 153 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 2: fourth time in his career. He's throwing a hail mary 154 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 2: for a touchdown and that's great, And it felt like 155 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 2: one of those momentum swinging plays that basically led me 156 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 2: to believe that we're going to see the exact same 157 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 2: thing that happened between Jets and Bills last year also 158 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 2: in primetime, in which you know, they walk it off 159 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 2: with the Gibson punt return touchdown, and we never got 160 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 2: that opportunity because instead and it ended in all too 161 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 2: familiar fashion with that pick. 162 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 3: But yeah, in that moment, that was great. 163 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 2: And what was also great Greg, I don't know if 164 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 2: a lot of people picked up on this, but I 165 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 2: certainly did. We had a little bit of a fail 166 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 2: Mary Part two where we had one official saying incomplete 167 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 2: and the other one's touchdown and I was like, oh, 168 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 2: please tell me photographers are catching this. I thought that 169 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 2: might be the only time, you know, back when it 170 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 2: happened in Seattle, that we'd ever see that, and we 171 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 2: got it for a moment there, even though they got 172 00:07:57,880 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 2: the call right. 173 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 4: Okay, So we're gonna connect a couple of different threads 174 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 4: we've been talking about in this show. The officiating which 175 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 4: was questionable, some of the roughing the passer calls. There 176 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 4: was one on both sides were shaky, and there was 177 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 4: just so many penalties. 178 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 5: I'm so sick of the illegal formations. 179 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 4: It is on pace right now to triple the amount 180 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 4: of illegal formations. I believe tonight we almost tied the 181 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 4: amount of illegal formations in the entire twenty twenty three seasons. 182 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 4: So all these freaking penalties, and Aaron Rodgers was complaining 183 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 4: about it, and he actually has a reference here back 184 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 4: to uh, yeah, when we had the replacement refs tonight. 185 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, it seemed a little ridiculous. Yeah, some of them 186 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:47,199 Speaker 7: seemed really bad, including the rough in the pastor on me, 187 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 7: and that's not rough in the passer. I was going 188 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 7: to play sarcasta ball if we're going to call those things. 189 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 7: And I thought the one on Kin Long was not 190 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 7: rough in the passer either. 191 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,199 Speaker 4: So do you know what sarcast the ball is without googling? 192 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 4: I have Google. I was waiting for you to finish writing, 193 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 4: so I've done the research. 194 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 3: Honestly, I'm drawing a blank, so enlighten me. 195 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 4: It's a South Park episode that they made about the 196 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 4: replacement refs where they created another sports so cast the ball, 197 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 4: and I do love it's in Rogers's wheelhouse age wise, 198 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 4: and certainly sense of humor that he just he just 199 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 4: throws that out there as if everyone knows it. 200 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:23,559 Speaker 5: Good job. 201 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 2: I was in college back then, so I do recall 202 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 2: my friends being very on top of it at that time. 203 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 5: That it was a really interesting press conference. 204 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 4: You'll probably see the photo of him just staring off 205 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 4: to space, wondering about the meaning of life, kind of 206 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 4: like thing at the end of Monday night football. I 207 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 4: kind of was feeling that way too. It's about five 208 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 4: thirty am back in London and then you know it's 209 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 4: up to a couple hours before racing to the airport. 210 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 4: So I am a little fried right now. So I 211 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 4: was thinking that way too. But like at the end 212 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 4: of this game, he was asked about that William's route, 213 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:02,319 Speaker 4: which felt typical that they can't get on the same page, 214 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 4: and he all but threw Williams under the bus for 215 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 4: not running the right route. Now, he didn't say he 216 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 4: ran the right wrong route, but he said that he's 217 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 4: expecting him to run a certain way. I think he 218 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 4: called it like, I forget the wording that he used. 219 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 4: They explained Ryan Clark explained it on ESPN, But essentially 220 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 4: he thinks he's going to go vertical, but he's not 221 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 4: as outside. He sees him breaking one way before he 222 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 4: throws it, and he almost had to adjust the throw midway. 223 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 5: Williams has to come back for it. It was a 224 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 5: bad throw. 225 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 4: I think Rogers was not so subtly saying that it 226 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 4: was a bad throw because he caught me off guard 227 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 4: for not being where I expected him to be. 228 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that speaks to their lack of rapport because 229 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,079 Speaker 2: the interception that he threw against the Vikings overseas was similar. 230 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 2: It was that they just don't understand where each other 231 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 2: wants to each other to be at a certain time 232 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 2: where you know, he throws that pass, he gets picked 233 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 2: off against the Vikings. That would have been a great 234 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 2: backshoulder throw, but Mike Williams continues running downfield, and this 235 00:10:57,960 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 2: time Mike Williams is not quite running the same route 236 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 2: that he won, ends up in another interception, a spectacular interception, 237 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 2: noe less like. It was definitely a great play, but 238 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 2: a play that Mike Williams slips and falls trying to 239 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 2: get back to the ball because they're not on the 240 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 2: same page, which is just indicative of where the Jets 241 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 2: offense has been even after the play color change, it's 242 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 2: still where they kind of are. 243 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, so you mentioned the play color change. I do 244 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 4: think there were more open receivers tonight that the running 245 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 4: game looked fantastic, especially in the first half. Breestau goes 246 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 4: eighteen for one to thirteen. At mid third quarter, they 247 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 4: had seven twenty plus yard plays, so this was an 248 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 4: explosive offense. They put up almost four hundred yards. I 249 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 4: don't know if they got another twenty yard play after that. 250 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 4: I don't think they did. Garrett Wilson had a nice night. 251 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:46,559 Speaker 4: Lizard's having a nice season in general, so it's not 252 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 4: like they're that far away. But there's always just one 253 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 4: thing that's going wrong. Tyron Smith tonight, Joe Tipman had 254 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 4: a big penalty in this game, and they just can't 255 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 4: get it consistent enough. When they have a chance to 256 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 4: take the lead, they get in. I had the five 257 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 4: yard line. You expect them to be able to punch 258 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 4: it in instead of penalty blows it there. So I 259 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 4: don't think they're done yet. And the coach of the 260 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 4: Jets actually agrees with me, Jeff Ahlbrick. 261 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 5: Let's listen to him. 262 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 8: I think there's always a sense of urgency. There has 263 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 8: to be, you know, that's just the nature of this league. 264 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 8: But at the same time, two of four is by 265 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,079 Speaker 8: we are by no means out of this thing, by 266 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 8: no means. I know the character that locker room. I 267 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 8: know the way we will respond. I know that I 268 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 8: thought this week's process was right. I thought the way 269 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 8: we were prepared was exceptional, you know, And we got 270 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 8: to start stacking these weeks of exceptional preparation and I 271 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 8: promise you it'll start to pay off on Sundays. 272 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 2: They felt like they were closer this week, right, Greg, 273 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 2: Like they felt even with the coaching change and everything else. 274 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:45,839 Speaker 2: And that's a guy who had run a brick through 275 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 2: a brick wall for right, but they felt like they 276 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 2: were closer than they'd been in the last few weeks, 277 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 2: even if they didn't get the job done. 278 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 5: Yes, well, offensively, they were much better. 279 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:54,839 Speaker 7: Now. 280 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,719 Speaker 4: He's calling the defense Brick is what Rogers called him 281 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 4: at his press coverence, and he was gushing about what 282 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 4: a good job Brick has been doing. So that, yeah, 283 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 4: I think is somewhat telling. He's got the seal of 284 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 4: approval from Aaron Rodgers. And defensively, they did not play 285 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 4: well in the first half. Second half, they tightened up 286 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 4: on the Bill's four possessions of the second half. They 287 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 4: miss a field goal Tyler Bass cost them four points 288 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 4: in this game. 289 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 5: Greg zerline. 290 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 4: On the other side, it was very windy, missed two kicks, 291 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:26,959 Speaker 4: doinked them both. 292 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 5: You don't see that too much. 293 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 4: And then punt punt, and then that long field goal 294 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 4: drive that ultimately was the game winning drive. So the 295 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 4: Jets defense wasn't great, Brick said it was not too 296 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 4: much for him to call all the plays. I think 297 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 4: ultimately you're right, they were closer on offense. It really 298 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 4: felt like the play caller change was effective. We should 299 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 4: give some love to the Bill's offense and Ray Davis. 300 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 5: I love me some Ray Davis. Just the way he runs. 301 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 4: There's an aggression that sometimes running backs don't have after 302 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 4: their rookie year or their second year, and Ray Davis 303 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 4: has it right now. He just runs so hard and 304 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 4: you can't teach that. 305 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 2: I think diehard listeners NFL Daily might recall me pointing 306 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 2: out Ray Davis in the preseason as a guy to 307 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 2: watch out for. He is a low center of gravity 308 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 2: runner who's hard to bring down on first contact. 309 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 3: He runs hard. He did that tonight. They had that. 310 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 2: Their first scoring drive was a statement drive. Six of 311 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 2: their nine plays are Ray Davis caries. He totals like 312 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 2: forty eight yards on that drive alone, marches them down 313 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 2: the field. And I'm sitting there watching it, just going, yes, 314 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 2: we're getting the Ray Davis game. And that's before he 315 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 2: even got involved in the passing game. And you know what, 316 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 2: let's give a tip of the cap to the Bill's 317 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 2: defense too. Taylor Rap made a couple of really big 318 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 2: hits and timely plays, breaking up passes that could have 319 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 2: swung the game, including a pass to Garrett Wilson in 320 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 2: the end zone. Jets had to settle for a field 321 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 2: goal in that situation. Like the Bill's defense did come 322 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 2: to play and made some big stops and key moments. 323 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, that Taylor Rap hit in the end zone, like 324 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 4: you mentioned, was huge, And at the end of the game, 325 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 4: I think Tabar Hamlin had had a tough game, but 326 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 4: they are a much better defense in general with Taron 327 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 4: Johnson and Trell Bernard. 328 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 3: Oh yeah out there. 329 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 4: And he Rap's been a little up and down this year, 330 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 4: but he played well tonight. I did notice after the 331 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 4: game there was some social media going around that Tomorrow, 332 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 4: Hamlin got Aaron Rodgers's jersey after the game, got the 333 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 4: jersey swap with a little autograph saying You're an inspiration 334 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 4: to me. I think it was a surprise. He was 335 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 4: just in his locker room and Rogers had sent it over. 336 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 4: And you forget that these guys are just you know, 337 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 4: they're still fans. He was probably a fan of Aaron 338 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 4: Rodgers when Rogers was an MVP, and he said he 339 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 4: felt like a kid on Christmas. What's better than not 340 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 4: only getting Aaron rodgers jersey, but beating him along the way. 341 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then getting the jersey after the fact like that. 342 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 2: That's how you know right there that you've made an impact. 343 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 2: And he's got an inspiring story and it's beautiful to 344 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 2: see him out there. Honestly, sometimes a little surprising to 345 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 2: see him out there and just laying his body on 346 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 2: the line after what happened to him. But that's football, 347 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 2: and these are football players more than anything. Like something 348 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 2: like that just illustrates the fact that look their competitors 349 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 2: and their opponents and everything else, but they're all doing 350 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 2: the same thing, which is playing a kids game. For 351 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 2: varying sums of money and they know the sacrifice that's involved. 352 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 2: And tomorrow Hamlin's definitely gotten an up close experience with 353 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 2: just you know how much of a zachrific could be. 354 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 2: And I'm sure he very much appreciates every snap that 355 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 2: he gets to play now that he's healthy and back 356 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 2: on the field. 357 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 4: So before we move on and take a little break, 358 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 4: I do want to just put where this puts the 359 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 4: team at four and two. 360 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 5: You're up two. 361 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 4: Games now, the Bills are over the Jets in the division, 362 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 4: and you have the tie break. 363 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 5: That's significant. 364 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 4: And if there was one person that was happier that 365 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 4: Robert Salah lost his job in the AFCs, I don't 366 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 4: know if it was anyone but Josh Allen. I mean, 367 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 4: Josh Allen's had a nightmare against these Robert sala defenses 368 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 4: over the years. His numbers have been brutal, and tonight 369 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 4: was the opposite nineteen for twenty five two hundred and 370 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 4: fifteen yards and two touchdowns and had the two key rushes, 371 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 4: He had the score and then the play at the end. 372 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 4: It was his third best game of his career in 373 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 4: terms of completion percentage over expected that Ray Davis throw 374 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 4: against his body probably. 375 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 5: Was a part of that number two. 376 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 4: So like he he's settled down after a couple down weeks. 377 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 4: That's going to be the Josh Allen experience. But are 378 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 4: you worried, Nick about the lack of weapons. Davis leads 379 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 4: the team in receiving because he has that one play. 380 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 4: Dalton Kincaid was finally a little more involved six for 381 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:34,360 Speaker 4: fifty one, not really hitting big plays, and then their 382 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 4: leader in terms of receiving yards was Curtis Samuel because 383 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 4: he got that one big play. 384 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 5: But otherwise it's Keon. 385 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 4: Coleman getting almost the most I mean not the most targets, 386 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 4: but the most routes run. It's just it's a little rough. 387 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:49,679 Speaker 4: They need Colio security to be healthier. He was out 388 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 4: there tonight, but not every time, but I think that's 389 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 4: something to watch it as the trade deadline approaches. 390 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 2: Kean Coleman actually dropped a pass that would have been 391 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 2: a beautiful completion just in front of the end zone there, 392 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:01,439 Speaker 2: so you know, but he's a rookie, Like this is 393 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 2: what we kind of should have expected going to the season. 394 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 2: You lose Digs, you lose Gabe Davis. You have to 395 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 2: rebuild your receiving cord and you're relying heavily on a rookie. 396 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 2: This is they're gonna take a bit of a step 397 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 2: back when it comes to connecting with these guys. Especially 398 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 2: we saw it in Houston. A lot of them just 399 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 2: are on the same page. I mean, at the end 400 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 2: of that game, Mac Collins and Josh Allen is not 401 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 2: in the same page on a completable pass. 402 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 3: So you're gonna have these issues. 403 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 5: Yeah. 404 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 4: The fun thing about this matchup is like they are 405 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 4: out there hitting, we're getting flags for them getting in 406 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 4: fights between quarters. That was the only flag I enjoyed. 407 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 4: Like that was the only flag I enjoyed. The lights 408 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 4: were out and they're pushing and on the field. I 409 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 4: know it wasn't all clean, but this was a physical 410 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 4: game between two teams that genuinely don't seem to like 411 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 4: each other that much. And once again it looks like 412 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 4: it's the Bill's division. I'm not rolling the Jets out yet. 413 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 4: I know it's a dark time for the Jets, but 414 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 4: and they have the Steelers on the road this week, 415 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 4: that's a big game. After that, the schedule eases up 416 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 4: relatively down this stretch. 417 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Albert kind of said it right there, 418 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,239 Speaker 2: we're by no means out of it. Yeah, you're two 419 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 2: and four, but you have a lot of season left, 420 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 2: and when you look at the Jets schedule, I just 421 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 2: think about the next two weeks because they're always the 422 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 2: most important. What's your weakness right now? Your defense is not. 423 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 2: I mean, statistically, they are a number two defense in 424 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 2: terms of yards lot per game, but we've seen them 425 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 2: give up big point totals in primetime games. Right We're 426 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 2: going into another primetime game on Sunday night against the 427 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 2: Steelers this week, but at the same time, you're facing 428 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 2: one of the least explosive offenses in the NFL. So 429 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 2: if your offense is actually where you think it is 430 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 2: after tonight, you're gonna play a better defense than the Steelers. 431 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 2: But if your offense is where you think it is tonight, 432 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 2: that's a winnable game. You dominated New England. Yes, you 433 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 2: have to go there in the following week, but that's 434 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,199 Speaker 2: another winnable, very winnable game. So before you know it, 435 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 2: you could be four and four and feel much better 436 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 2: about your team right now, So you want to hit 437 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 2: the panic button because it's frustrating, and you see hereon 438 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,439 Speaker 2: Rodgers frustrated. But I'm telling you right now, Jets fans, 439 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 2: right out a little bit longer before you decide to 440 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 2: jump ship. 441 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 5: Okay. 442 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 4: I like the optimism that Sunday Night one is huge. 443 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 4: Three and four feels way different to me than two 444 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 4: and five with it potentially coming apart at the seams. 445 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 4: As Troy Yiekman said after the game, I'm like, what 446 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 4: does Troy know? He thinks this thing might collapse a 447 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 4: little under its own weight, so maybe maybe he is 448 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 4: picking up a few things. 449 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 5: All right, we are going to take a break. 450 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 4: We're going to come back on the other side, do 451 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 4: some news, give our Captain of the Week, and then 452 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 4: I'm going to go to sleep. Back on NFL Daily. Yes, 453 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 4: back in America. Didn't miss a snap shook. The plane 454 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 4: landed about forty minutes early. Watch some of the first 455 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 4: quarter in the uber home, but didn't didn't miss a snap. 456 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 5: We're here. 457 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 2: That's the beauty. That's the beauty of rideshare coming from Lax. 458 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 4: Yeah about arriving at Lax, but it was a lovely time. 459 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 4: And shout out to the fan. I'm glad that you're 460 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 4: on this show with me because this would have slipped 461 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 4: my mind. Shout out to the fan that came up, 462 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 4: the listener that said he really enjoys the nick shook 463 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 4: the recaps, So you got one. 464 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 2: Here we go, all right, there we go. One fan overseas. 465 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:24,360 Speaker 2: That's one more than I have to have one. 466 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 4: You know, if I'm only meeting like a sample of them, 467 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 4: then you can extrapolate it out. 468 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 5: It's like a poll. 469 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 4: So that means there's there's thousands of shooky fans out 470 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 4: there in the UK and worldwide. But it is great 471 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 4: to be back, and yes, I'll be back in the 472 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 4: studio to do our next show with Colleen and Jordan, 473 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 4: and we're. 474 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 5: Back on our regular schedule. 475 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 4: So I appreciate everyone listening last week and dealing with 476 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 4: all the different times that the show was going up. 477 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 5: Let's do some news. 478 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 4: Hutchinson will be out four to six months with a 479 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 4: fractured tibia and fibula and the range of outcomes that 480 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 4: was possible after this injury. 481 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 5: As Dan Campbell put. 482 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 4: It, this probably was on the more positive side. How 483 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 4: I read into that is that it was essentially closer 484 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 4: to like a clean break instead of ligament damage, and 485 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 4: sometimes where it's at the ankle and the leg that 486 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 4: four to six month timeline would indicate it's more of 487 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 4: a traditional recovery. Everything goes well, they're even thrown out there, 488 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 4: like maybe he'd be ready for the super Bowl if 489 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 4: they got there late in the playoffs, but either way, 490 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 4: they're going to be shorthanded for the rest of the 491 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 4: regular season. 492 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd have to come through on the short side 493 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 2: of that timeline. I'm just glad that he avoided the 494 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 2: Alex Smith scenario or even the Teddy Bridgewater scenario when 495 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 2: he had, like grew some knee injury, you know, because 496 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 2: any type of compound fracture, anything significant like that, you 497 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 2: always fear that. So it sucks because they lose their 498 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 2: best pass rusher and it's a department for them that 499 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 2: they've already kind of lacked depth then, but this is football. 500 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 2: This is part of what happens. So they're gonna have 501 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 2: to find out a way to go forward without him. 502 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, we dove deep into it on the Recap show 503 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 4: on Sunday night Monday morning. I recommend everyone check that out. 504 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 4: I mean, it's about as long as a Godfather movie. 505 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 4: I saw that they pop up in my phone when 506 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 4: I woke up this morning. It's like, oh, I did 507 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 4: not realize we went that long late into the night. 508 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 4: So yeah, we tried to come up with seven fun 509 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 4: We'll see, it was a lot of fun. I want 510 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 4: to give you another updated injury which we weren't aware 511 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 4: of on Sunday, which was Jonathan Allen. But the commanders 512 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 4: did not think that was a major injury, and it 513 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 4: turns out he is going to miss the season with 514 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 4: a tornpeck torol muzzle. Jonathan Allen was one of the 515 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 4: best defensive tackles ends kind of a hybrid interior player 516 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 4: in the league for a handful of seasons. I would 517 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 4: say he wasn't playing at that level since the start 518 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 4: of twenty twenty three. That continued this year, but he 519 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 4: still was a ardor and a significant player on a 520 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 4: team that doesn't have a lot of defensive talent. 521 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,120 Speaker 2: He's also the guy who has the third highest cap 522 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,120 Speaker 2: number on the roster right now. That's always a big 523 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 2: blow when you lose a guy who's making that much money. Yeah, 524 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 2: PFF didn't have him great very well last year or 525 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 2: into this year, but it's a blow for them and 526 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 2: now they have to lean on Jerson Newton. The rookie 527 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 2: out of Illinois to replace him, and I expect them 528 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 2: to make a roster move just for death purposes. 529 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 4: I liked me some Jerry Newton in the pre draft process, 530 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 4: thought thought he was good. 531 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 5: I've tried to keep an eye on him in these games. 532 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 4: It's tough if you're not watching the All twenty two, 533 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 4: but he's made a lot of splash plays. I think 534 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 4: he probably has like a lot of negative plays, but 535 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 4: he goes for big plays. So he's kind of fun 536 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 4: to watch. This Washington team. I want them to stay 537 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 4: in the mix, stay in the playoff race. They're going 538 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 4: to do it with offense, but they need a little 539 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 4: help from their defense. The Colts are expected to start 540 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 4: Anthony Richardson this week, so he was close to starting 541 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,360 Speaker 4: on Sunday. They decided to give Flacco one more go. 542 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 4: He gets to win. At three and three. They haven't 543 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 4: been impressive, but they're in the mix in what's going 544 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 4: to be I think kind of a weird and ugly 545 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 4: race for the last couple AFC spots. I don't know 546 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 4: if it's like a deep conference right now. We'll see, 547 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 4: but I feel like nine wins might get you that 548 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 4: seventh spot. Like someone's going to get a tiebreaker at 549 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 4: nine wins in the AFC. 550 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, this season's gonna been like that. There's a lot 551 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 2: of gray area. It's hard to project at this point. 552 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 2: But I'll tell you what, Greg, Joe Flaco put together 553 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 2: two very solid games. And back in the day when 554 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 2: football players weren't making crazy money, a lot of guys 555 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,880 Speaker 2: went and got off season jobs, some of them door 556 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:35,360 Speaker 2: to door insurance salesman. 557 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 3: Joe Flacco. 558 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 2: I know you're not going to need employment afterward, but 559 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 2: because of how you perform last year and in these 560 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 2: two games this year, you're the best insurance policy an 561 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 2: NFL team could find. 562 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 3: No Flacco insurance. Baby, let's go right now. 563 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 4: I was wondering where you were going with that shook 564 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 4: with some dad humor. I'm the dad here. Let's go 565 00:25:54,880 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 4: to Philadelphia. I mean, man, Nick Sirianni every week has 566 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 4: some story that he's apologizing for after the fact or 567 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 4: explaining after the fact. Where he's the main character. You know, 568 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 4: we talk about different people that have main character energy. 569 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 4: It's like, doesn't matter what happens with the Eagles, we're 570 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,159 Speaker 4: talking about Nick Sirianni. Let's hear him talk about what 571 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 4: happened with his home crowd fans on Sunday. 572 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 9: Now, I was trying to bring energy yesterday, energy enthusiasm yesterday. 573 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 9: And I'm sorry and disappointed on how my energy was 574 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 9: directed at the end of the game. And you know, 575 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 9: my energy should be all in on coaching, motivating right 576 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 9: and celebrating with our guys, and so you know, that's 577 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 9: you know, and I got to have better wisdom and 578 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 9: discernment of when to use that energy, and that wasn't 579 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 9: and that wasn't the time. 580 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 5: Great go ahead. 581 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,880 Speaker 2: This this reads like he got a talking to from 582 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 2: the principle and had to go out and apologize to 583 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,479 Speaker 2: his classmates after breaking some sort of he cost them 584 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 2: their pizza party. That's essentially what he's speaking like this 585 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 2: in this situation. And look, he has energy. He's got 586 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 2: bro energy, He's got D three football energy. And as 587 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,679 Speaker 2: somebody who's familiar with D three football, that comes right 588 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 2: out of the OAC Baby he went to Mount Union. 589 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 2: And he still acts like it sometimes, especially in situations 590 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 2: like when they get a win over the lowly Browns 591 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 2: on Sunday. 592 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 4: Well, it just seems like he's spinning all season, reacting 593 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 4: from one last thing he did, and then overreacting and 594 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 4: going too far the other way, and then going too 595 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 4: far the other way, and trying to figure out what 596 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 4: he actually does, because he says it partly came from 597 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 4: he talked with his players like Jalen and aj Brown, 598 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 4: and they were telling him during the biway, you be you, 599 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 4: you be, you know, get back to being crazy Nick. 600 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 4: We like crazy Nick, and then he like goes goes 601 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 4: too hard, yelling at fans, and it's all a little 602 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 4: mystifying and makes me think that maybe they should have 603 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 4: just made a clean break of it at the end 604 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 4: of last season. But then I saw one tweet which 605 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 4: made me rethink this whole story, and they said, Nick Sirianni, 606 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 4: I have no problem with him yelling at the fans 607 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 4: because I can guarantee you if you met whoever that 608 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 4: was that he yelled at, it would be one of 609 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 4: the ten worst people you've ever met in your life. 610 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 4: And I thought, you're probably right, for whoever was yelling 611 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 4: at him to make Sirianni mad enough for him to 612 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 4: do that, I bet that was true. 613 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good point, but it is a lot 614 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 2: of come at me bro energy, and it's just like 615 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 2: a broof like I went a side note. I went 616 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,880 Speaker 2: to the Guardians Tigers Alds, you know, decisive Game five 617 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 2: on Saturday, and I'm watching a Tiger's fan flipping off 618 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 2: this whole section of Guardians fans and waving his talent 619 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 2: and everything. And that guy had big come at me 620 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 2: bro energy, except Sirianni was on the winning side, so 621 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 2: he was able to have the last laugh. 622 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 5: That's bold. 623 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 4: You cannot do that, uh at Yankee Stadium or no friendly, 624 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 4: especially Fenway. No, like New York fans have a bad rap. 625 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 4: Back back when I was going to those games in 626 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 4: three h four, sort of at the peak of the 627 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 4: Yankees Red Sox rivalry, it was not great to be 628 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 4: a Red Sox fan at Yankee Stadium. You probably don't 629 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 4: even want to wear your hat, and if you do, 630 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 4: when you're leaving, like keep it, keep it tucked on. 631 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 4: You know, you might get ripped off and thrown away. 632 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 4: But it was way worse and way more aggressive if 633 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 4: you were a Yankees fan at Fenway. Unfortunately. To be honest, 634 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 4: all right, let's go to the Dolphins. Mike McDaniel says 635 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 4: he expects to a tug of Iloa to play in 636 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 4: twenty twenty four. It didn't give a timeline on it, 637 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 4: but basically said it's coming. So that's an interesting addition 638 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 4: to the story. There are two and three. You never 639 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 4: know if they could get to a back soon. They're 640 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 4: not technically out of it, as bad as they've looked 641 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,959 Speaker 4: on the field. Kevin Stefanski did the Monday follow up 642 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 4: nick that he's sticking with Watson. We don't need to 643 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 4: go deep into it. I think everyone knows at this 644 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 4: point he's one of the worst quarterbacks through six weeks 645 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 4: in the last twenty years. But I did think it 646 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 4: was notable because I thought this Monday was a possible 647 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 4: chance that he would change his mind and make the move, 648 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 4: and he is not making the move. 649 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 2: I think we're creeping toward and maybe slowly building more 650 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 2: speed toward a decision, probably at the point where Stefanski 651 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 2: starts to feel his own job threatened, and even for 652 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 2: a two time Coach of the Year, you continue at 653 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 2: this rate, you're gonna have to make a change before 654 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 2: long to save your job. 655 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 3: So I think it'll happen eventually. 656 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 4: Right, I mean, that's even assuming it's his choice to make. 657 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 4: Andrew Berry is involved the ownership is involved mutiny. I 658 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 4: wonder about Andrew Berry's job. I know he signed that contract. Yeah, 659 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 4: he's weirdly skated on making the worst trade in NFL history, 660 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 4: just saying. 661 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 3: No, you're not wrong. 662 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 4: Jim Harbaugh had that scary incident that included a heart murmur, 663 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 4: which is something he's been dealing with. We found out 664 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 4: recently that happened on the sideline during the win over 665 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 4: the Broncos. He spoke Monday after visiting a doctor earlier 666 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:55,479 Speaker 4: in the day. 667 00:30:55,520 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 10: I talk to John to talk to my dead mom too, 668 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 10: and my wife. So yeah, yeah, they they know, they know, 669 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 10: they know how deeply I am. It would take my 670 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 10: heart stopping, yeah, for me not to be out there 671 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 10: in the sideline. 672 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 5: I don't love hearing that. 673 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 4: I remember Gary Kubiak had some heart issues too on 674 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 4: the sideline. That was really scary because he's laughing saying 675 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 4: that his heart would have to stop for him to stop. 676 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 4: So he is not stopping. He says he's gonna have 677 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 4: another check up in a couple of weeks. I think 678 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 4: he's going to wear something that monitors how the heart 679 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 4: is going now, so it's some sort of device, but 680 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 4: it's intense Jim Harbor is intense. He's got an intense 681 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 4: football team that he's taken care of. 682 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't ever like to hear, you know, medical 683 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 2: situations like this, of course, but I'm not surprised because 684 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 2: because that intensity that you just spoke of. He's a 685 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 2: guy who has spawned many memes with his intensity on 686 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 2: the sideline, whether he was coaching at Michigan or with 687 00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,479 Speaker 2: the forty nine ers or even back at Stanford. So 688 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 2: hoping for the best and hopefully, you know, he monitors 689 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 2: his health and he'll be fine the long run. 690 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 4: Okay, couple injuries to just recap quickly before we get 691 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 4: to our players of the week, Pat Certain and Chris o'lave. 692 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 4: They both look unlikely for Thursday night football. They both 693 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 4: had concussions on Sunday. Certain miss basically the entire game. 694 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 4: That's o Lavi's third concussion in three seasons. Just you know, 695 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 4: you never want to see that one of them was 696 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,239 Speaker 4: pretty severe a year ago. Rashid Shaheed surprisingly has a 697 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 4: concerning knee injury according to Ian Rappaport that could keep 698 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 4: him out this week that was not known during the game, 699 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 4: that popped up on Monday, and just the way Rapaport 700 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 4: said it, the Saints are just a mass unit. They 701 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 4: might get Taysom Hill back for this game, but that's 702 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 4: scary for them. On Thursday night with Sean Payton coming 703 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 4: to town, Taj Spears is week to week with a 704 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 4: hamstring injury. Same with Jaguars running back Travis etm The 705 00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 4: Jaguars made a trade sending Robert Roy Robertson Harris to 706 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 4: the Seahawks for a sixth round pick to kind of 707 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 4: a rotational defensive lineman. So he's got to go from 708 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 4: London all the way over to Seattle and go play 709 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 4: this week. And people were saying, no, that's that's got 710 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 4: to be the longest possible trip that that you can make. 711 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 4: But it's not as long as to La. LA's further. 712 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 4: You know, you go over, you go over the top, right. 713 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true, that is true. And he he packed 714 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 3: for two weeks in. 715 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 4: The circle, so LA's a solid extra hour and a 716 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 4: half or so. Uh, Finally we are going to do 717 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 4: what we do each and every week on this show. Yes, 718 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 4: it's time for the Captain's Corner, presented by Captain Morgan. 719 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,239 Speaker 2: Why don't you get us going shook all right. This 720 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 2: is gonna be way out of left field. But stick 721 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 2: with me here, and this is a name you should 722 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 2: pay attention to. The Buccaneers have a lot of young 723 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 2: defensive back you know, defensive backs that are solid players. 724 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 2: You know, Christianizing is one of them. You can name 725 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 2: a number of them that Zion McCollum h Servasier Dennis 726 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 2: perhaps the best name in football, but this week belonged 727 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 2: to none other than rookie safety Tike Smith. He finishes 728 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 2: with five tackles. He finishes with a pick that was 729 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 2: at the end of a blowout win that didn't seem 730 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:10,760 Speaker 2: like he was going to be a blowout win early 731 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,399 Speaker 2: Well middleports portions of the game because early on he 732 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 2: forces a fumble on the play, actually Olave was concussed 733 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 2: on He forces a fumble right before Olave takes the 734 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 2: hit to the head and Antwine Winfield Junior recovers it 735 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 2: for a touchdown. He nearly did it again later in 736 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 2: the game, but it was called back by a penalty elsewhere. 737 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,240 Speaker 2: I actually no it was. It was overturned on review. 738 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 2: But this guy is flying all over the field. He's 739 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,839 Speaker 2: making plays, and he's another young capable player who made 740 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,439 Speaker 2: a big part in this game as the Buccaneers rolled 741 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 2: to a victory that for a little bit. 742 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 3: There looked like it was a little dicey. 743 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 2: They blew a seventeen to nothing lead early, but they 744 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 2: came back with a vengeance and he was a big. 745 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 3: Part of it. 746 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, that game was absolutely drunk. I mean the bonkers. 747 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 5: It was just a crazy, crazy game. 748 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 4: I'm going to the best game of the week in 749 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 4: my mind, which was Raven's Commanders. I'm giving it to 750 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 4: Zay Flowers nine for one, thirty two, all of it 751 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 4: in the first half. Every single target that went his 752 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 4: way included a forty four yard catch. I wanted to 753 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 4: give him some love just because I love his development. 754 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,399 Speaker 4: I love the way Todd Monkin and Lamar Jackson are 755 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 4: using him. He can create so much separation. I think 756 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 4: he's a little tougher than I would expect. You wouldn't 757 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 4: think that you could build so much of an offense 758 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 4: around a guy his size, and yet they're doing it. 759 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,360 Speaker 4: He's not a traditional number one receiver, neither's Jaden Reid, 760 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 4: and yet those two guys are gonna be the number 761 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,399 Speaker 4: one receivers essentially for two of the best offenses. 762 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:37,240 Speaker 5: In the league. 763 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 4: So love a little second year player development from a 764 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 4: wide receiver Zay Flowers getting it done for the Ravens, 765 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 4: for Lamar Jackson for his fantasy owners. Yes, that was 766 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 4: Captain's Corner presented by Captain Morgan. It's delicious and crisp, 767 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,399 Speaker 4: perfect for game day with your friends. Spice it up. 768 00:35:55,880 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 4: Visit Captain Morgan dot com to find a Captain. Are 769 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,280 Speaker 4: you please drink responsibly? 770 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 5: It's good. It's good to be back with you, Nick. 771 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 3: You know, I know, it's great. It's great. 772 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 2: You know, I'm excited for the development of small receivers. 773 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill probably gets the nod for leading the way. 774 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:12,800 Speaker 2: But what I'm more excited about. 775 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 3: Greg. 776 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 2: We had like five flea flickers this weekend. They all 777 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 2: worked to varying degrees or didn't work. I don't know 778 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 2: who sent like a message out like, hey, this is 779 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 2: flea Flicker weekend. But it preceded National tight End Day, 780 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,479 Speaker 2: which is coming up in a few weeks, so why 781 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 2: not make it a holiday. But we do know one thing. 782 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 2: There's five flea flickers in a weekend. What does that mean? 783 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 3: Greg? 784 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 4: That means football is back. We'll see you Wednesday.