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Speaker 2: And we are underway.

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Speaker 3: What is up? Everybody?

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Action Network Podcast. I'm your host, Chris Raybain,

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Speaker 1: and I am joined today by the Prime Minister of

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Speaker 1: Degenerate Nation, my main man, Stucky Stuck.

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Speaker 3: What's going on? Uh, happy to be back in the fold.

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Speaker 1: I know we're about to get some Marathon Pop recording

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Speaker 1: sessions out here for NFL.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, camp is on the horizon. Just another hurdle

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Speaker 2: that we're about to clear and come up on that

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Speaker 2: will signify that the season will be here before we

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Speaker 2: know it. So yeah, just continuing the grind, looking forward

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Speaker 2: to kind of discussing a key question or two for

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Speaker 2: every team, starting with the AFC in this episode and

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Speaker 2: then the NFC kind of things that we're looking for,

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Speaker 2: things that could make or break a team season. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: there's a lot to keep an eye on with camp

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Speaker 2: coming up, you have contract situations, injuries, sometimes legal issues,

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Speaker 2: and then how are the rookies going to perform? How

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Speaker 2: then you have coaching changes as well, So there's some

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Speaker 2: schematic angles to keep an eye on. So there's a

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five NFL season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it feels like there's no there's not really as

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Speaker 1: many just consistent teams that we can plug in this year.

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Speaker 1: It seems like there's a lot of questions even for

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Speaker 1: for the NFC episode as well. And I'm gonna read

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Speaker 1: it off stuck with the AFC South thing, you know.

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Speaker 1: because I think William Cohen could make a big difference.

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Speaker 1: But we don't know, we have a we have a

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Speaker 1: or this organization and specifically for Trevor Lawrence and that

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Speaker 2: McCarthy I think was a nice get. He's a very

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Speaker 2: But I'm a big come believer. I get the samples.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to the Indianapolis Colts and the the major

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Speaker 3: The coach.

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Speaker 1: If they get a good quarterback play, they start withing

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Speaker 1: The only real glaring issue is that quarterback, So I

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Speaker 2: it just comes down with the quarterback. And in the AFC,

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Speaker 2: Otherwise, yeah, I don't. I don't think that we have to, Like,

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Speaker 2: it all comes down to the offense. I think Stroud,

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Speaker 2: the clear favorites, the Buffalo Bills, who will be on

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Speaker 2: hard knocks, so you'll get a little deeper look and

436
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Speaker 2: more interesting lens into what's going on up there in

437
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Speaker 2: Western New York. I mean, for me, when I look

438
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Speaker 2: at the Bills, the Cook contract situation is interesting to

439
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Speaker 2: watch and monitor see what goes on there. But I

440
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Speaker 2: think there's just two clear position groups that you have

441
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Speaker 2: to watch with Buffalo. But before I say Mine'm curious

442
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Speaker 2: to get like, what do you we know who the

443
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Speaker 2: Bills are? Like, you're what are they? They've won double

444
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,000
Speaker 2: digit games the last five years? I think, so, like

445
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Speaker 2: have your favorites from the division? They're going to be

446
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Speaker 2: there in the end, barring you know, a catastrophe injury situation,

447
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,200
Speaker 2: a catastrophic injury situation, maybe like Josh Allen goes down obviously,

448
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,159
Speaker 2: but they should be there in the end. What are

449
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:13,520
Speaker 2: you watching to see if this team can finally break through?

450
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 2: Like what needs to come together? What are the most

451
00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:17,880
Speaker 2: interesting position battles that you're watching in camp?

452
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Speaker 3: I wonder if they're.

453
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Speaker 1: Josh Allen's just so good that they don't realize that

454
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Speaker 1: this this still might not be the best. I like,

455
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Speaker 1: they've never fully figured out the offense and the receivers

456
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Speaker 1: and the interplay. You know, they had digs, but then

457
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,560
Speaker 1: they gave Davis was like a flawed number two receiver. Yeah,

458
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Speaker 1: he was good as a run bogger, but he's not

459
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Speaker 1: a not a guy that you would necessarily want out

460
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Speaker 1: there for ninety percent of the snap. He's more of

461
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Speaker 1: a number four kind of situational guy. Then they decide, Okay,

462
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Speaker 1: we're just gonna go away from that, We're gonna feed everybody,

463
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Speaker 1: and like that's great, and it worked, and I like

464
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Speaker 1: the fact that they're not going crazy with uh, you know,

465
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Speaker 1: spending money at the receiver position and other kind of

466
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Speaker 1: But but at the same time, you still question some

467
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Speaker 1: of the evaluations, right because you probably hung on to

468
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Speaker 1: digs a little too long at the time where you

469
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Speaker 1: definitely weren't getting the most out of him toward the end,

470
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Speaker 1: and then you still haven't really fully utilized Concaid in

471
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Speaker 1: the right way or you know, kind of gotten him

472
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Speaker 1: to do what he needs to do. I heard, you know,

473
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Speaker 1: there's weight issues and he's not blocking, and but it's

474
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Speaker 1: like Josh Allens is so good that at some point

475
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Speaker 1: you gotta like, I think they might have had it

476
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Speaker 1: right the first time when remember I think they brought

477
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Speaker 1: in like a John Brown and he was in the

478
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Speaker 1: digs and like just more higher profile guys at receiver.

479
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Speaker 1: That's what I'm kind of looking at because they got

480
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Speaker 1: so they've been so run heavy since Brady took over

481
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Speaker 1: in the middle of the twenty twenty three season and

482
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Speaker 1: you're playing with fire, you know, if Cook missus time

483
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,400
Speaker 1: or you know, like this is Ray Davis is completely different.

484
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Speaker 1: Running back Ty Johnson can make plays in the pass game,

485
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 1: but you just you're putting so much on Josh Allen

486
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,919
Speaker 1: once again and his his his rushing touchdowns and just

487
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 1: they're relying on him more and more in that running

488
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Speaker 1: game more and more, and it's just kind of odd

489
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Speaker 1: because he's so good as a thrower that I just

490
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Speaker 1: wonder if they're playing it a little too safe, like

491
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Speaker 1: that's that's my conserver buffer with that they might be

492
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Speaker 1: capping their own ceiling and just not realizing it because

493
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Speaker 1: they're so happy they could just breeze through the season

494
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Speaker 1: and win twelve twelve games every year. But I mean,

495
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Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on this Bills team?

496
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Speaker 2: And they worried about the offense, I mean the composition

497
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Speaker 2: group that I'm watching, Like, the offensive line looks good again, Alan,

498
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 2: it's obviously a pece. You want to watch the Cook situation,

499
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Speaker 2: but I want to watch the receiver group, like you said,

500
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Speaker 2: and that includes the tight ends. What can Josh Palmer bring.

501
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 2: Does Kean Coleman take a leap? You know, chick when

502
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Speaker 2: here when healthy, I think is a good piece that

503
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Speaker 2: you can use, and I mean especially against zone. It

504
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Speaker 2: can't be man though. Yeah, that's true. That's something they

505
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 2: got to figure out. But I'm not worried about the offense.

506
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 2: Like the offense is going to be elite. This team's

507
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 2: goal should be to get the one seed. With their

508
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 2: schedule and their division, they've got to finally get the

509
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Speaker 2: one seed. I mean, is the team that's gone. They've

510
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Speaker 2: lost one game in regulation at home in the regular

511
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Speaker 2: season over the past three seasons. It's a weird game

512
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Speaker 2: against Denver by two points. I know they've lost a

513
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Speaker 2: couple in the playoffs at home. I think they're four

514
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Speaker 2: and two at home. But this is a dominant team

515
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Speaker 2: at home. You've got to get home field advantage with

516
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Speaker 2: this schedule this year, the way that the break is

517
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Speaker 2: getting all your tough games at home in this division.

518
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Speaker 2: Can they get the one seed that the past catching

519
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 2: room just can it hit its ceiling? But I think

520
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Speaker 2: more importantly it's the defense. And last year they were

521
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Speaker 2: I mean plus twenty four turnover margin. That mesks a

522
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Speaker 2: lot a lot of issues. That's the best margin in

523
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Speaker 2: twelve years. I mean that the extreme fumble luck. I mean,

524
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Speaker 2: if you go back and you look at some of

525
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Speaker 2: the teams that have had a turnover margin at that level,

526
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Speaker 2: you can expect some major regressions. So how do you

527
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Speaker 2: make up for that? Well, the secondary asks me better,

528
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Speaker 2: and that's my biggest question on this team and what

529
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Speaker 2: I'm watching on hard knocks and in camp. So like

530
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Speaker 2: Maxwell harriston the rookie, what can he give you at corner?

531
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Speaker 2: Obviously dealing with some other stuff as well. The safety room,

532
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Speaker 2: can Cold Bishop step up because I'm just not sold

533
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Speaker 2: on Hamlin and rat being the answer on the back end.

534
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Speaker 2: So yeah, the secondary to a lesser extent, the wide

535
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Speaker 2: receiver rooms the two positions that I'm watching, But that

536
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Speaker 2: secondary needs to be a whole lot better because it's

537
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Speaker 2: the defense and they were able to mask it last

538
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Speaker 2: year until the playoffs. It's the defense that let them

539
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Speaker 2: down in their playoff losses. So that's what I'm watching

540
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Speaker 2: because last year they were number one and turnovers per drive,

541
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Speaker 2: thirty first in punts force per drive, you know, number

542
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Speaker 2: twenty four in yards per drive. So like, this is

543
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 2: a team that needs to get better on the defensive side.

544
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 2: It's there's a reason they went out, they're for their

545
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 2: five free agent signings, their first five draft picks. On

546
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 2: the defensive side of the ball, how do these new pieces,

547
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 2: how does how does the secondary come together? Because it's

548
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 2: all about the defense this year. As long as the

549
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,679
Speaker 2: offense stays healthy, they're going to be fine. That the

550
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 2: goal should be to get the one seed. In order

551
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Speaker 2: to do that, I think you just need some improvement

552
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,679
Speaker 2: in the secondary because if that turnover aggression hits like

553
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 2: a brick, the defense is going to have to pull

554
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Speaker 2: its weight and it starts to think in the secondary.

555
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 2: Moving on to the let's go to the Patriots to

556
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 2: getting a lot of hype. I mean the wind total increases,

557
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 2: I mean as drastic as you'll see from last year

558
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 2: to this. I think that they're their hope is can

559
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 2: they be the commanders of last year? Like that's the

560
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 2: optimistic view, right, Like you had an unseerious coaching staff.

561
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 2: You overhaul that, you overhaul everything. Now it's not a

562
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 2: rookie quarterback, but it's a second year quarterback that showed promise.

563
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 2: You went out, you spent, spent a lot of money,

564
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 2: brought in a lot of new pieces, and will that

565
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 2: translate to better results on the field and then the

566
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 2: win column. What are your thoughts on the Patriots and

567
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 2: what are you looking at as they head into camp Here.

568
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Speaker 1: Mike Rabel's gonna win them some games or keep them

569
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 1: in games they probably wouldn't otherwise be in. The division

570
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 1: is getting worse. So I think they're already the second

571
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: best team in this division. I thought they were pretty

572
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: much since even heading into the draft. I mean, so

573
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Speaker 1: it's no surprise that they're kind of going a little

574
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Speaker 1: more aggressively now.

575
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Speaker 3: And you know you mentioned it.

576
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Speaker 1: If you could take advantage of those rookie quarterbacks, quarterbacks

577
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Speaker 1: on the rookie deals, it's it's a big positive. I

578
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: think this may be a little bit of an opening

579
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Speaker 1: because you're looking at a situation where, you know, going

580
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: back to Buffalo, what you said, the off is gonna

581
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 1: be fine, but they can't be man coverage so you

582
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: get to the playoffs. If you play with Baltimore Kansas City,

583
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 1: I still I still think they're their cap so but

584
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: if you get him out of the way, you know,

585
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 1: it's the Patriots. I think they're the team that capitalizes

586
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: more so than the Dolphins. And it was just there

587
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: are so many things are wrong, and I just wonder

588
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: if they're you know, if they're learning the wrong lessons,

589
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: because Frabel's good, but it's like he's a retread or

590
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: he's a guy.

591
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Speaker 3: He's like, Okay, it worked, like he was here before.

592
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 3: Let's bring him back in.

593
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Speaker 1: Uh, finally give him you know what, he what a

594
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 1: lot of people thought here supposed to have that job

595
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: from the jrump then you go, but char also bring

596
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 1: back Daniels. You kind of got lucky with Drake May,

597
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: kind of fell into your lap. So and he's really

598
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: the true HiPE spot. You always have had trouble.

599
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 3: Developing receivers in the McDaniel offense.

600
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Speaker 1: Uh, Stefan Diggs, I think you know he's going right

601
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: enough in fantasy that I'm willing to take fires on him.

602
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: But that's a curious signing given you know that you

603
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 1: really it is really important. Like Drake May's development probably

604
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 1: the worst for steving Corny League last year.

605
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Speaker 3: Stefan digs very low floor for that for that kind

606
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Speaker 3: of money.

607
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Speaker 1: So I just wonder if this whole division is kind

608
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Speaker 1: of such a shit show that we're we might even

609
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 1: be we're overrating Buffalo and then probably at least the

610
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 1: market I think now, and I was hired in New

611
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: England from a while ago, but I think we're probably

612
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:46,719
Speaker 1: overlooked over rating them too.

613
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Speaker 3: I mean, I think the biggest positive.

614
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Speaker 1: For them is verable and they're gonna probably do some

615
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 1: things on defense that play above themselves. But you know,

616
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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna take more time. I'm still I

617
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 1: still think this offense could be the Drake like just

618
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Speaker 1: Drake Maye propping it up. Yet again, It's still it's

619
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Speaker 1: still a shaky offense with it could go bad real quick.

620
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think the pages are a bit

621
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Speaker 2: over valued in the market, but I could there's also

622
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 2: a lot of aarans to the I mean, they could

623
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Speaker 2: have let ten new starters across the board this year.

624
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 2: They definitely addressed some of their holes. I'm curious the

625
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 2: offensive line was so bad, I mean, it was historically

626
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 2: bad last year that a lot of those guys that

627
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 2: were relying on are now deep into the depth charter gone.

628
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Speaker 2: The left side of the offensive line, could you have

629
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Speaker 2: could you have an all rookie left side of the

630
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 2: offensive line. That's something that I'm watching and how that

631
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 2: comes together with Campbell at left tackle potentially Wilson as well.

632
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 2: So I'm curious to see how the offensive line comes

633
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 2: together because that just enabled that just really crushed them

634
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 2: so many times they couldn't do anything. And then yeah, Diggs,

635
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Speaker 2: what kind of ceiling does he still have? What does

636
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 2: what can Williams give you a receiver because their pass

637
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 2: catters have just been so bad the past couple of years.

638
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 2: So if you can, if you if Diggs still has

639
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 2: that next gear, which I have questions about, if Williams

640
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 2: can really contribute, and that offensive line comes together right

641
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 2: with your new additions the left, the left side comes together,

642
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 2: then yeah, this offense has something. And you know they

643
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 2: obviously added a bunch on the defensive side, so you know,

644
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 2: you bring in Landerie Davis, Milton Williams. So there's there's

645
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 2: definitely a lot more talent, and I think the coaching

646
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 2: staff is more serious and they're gonna be favored in

647
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 2: eleven games. Had bad injury luck last year. The schedule

648
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 2: is going to be easy a lot easier this year.

649
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Speaker 2: So there's a lot of things to like. There's a

650
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 2: bunch of injury. There's a lot of injury watch for

651
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 2: a lot of players on this team as well that

652
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 2: I'm keeping an eye on. But I do think they're

653
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 2: a tad overvalued, but definitely an intriguing team to watch.

654
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 2: You have Drake May showed a lot of prominents in

655
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,479
Speaker 2: a horrendous situation. How much better does that situation get?

656
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 2: And then how much better can he get second year?

657
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 2: And can you avoid you know, sort of a sophomore slump.

658
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 2: But really interesting team to watch. A lot of differing

659
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 2: opinions on the Patriots. Let's move on to the Dolphins.

660
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 2: You and I are pretty low in the Dolphins this year.

661
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 2: There's just a lot of holes here. I mean the secondary.

662
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 2: His yikes, I know Ramsey's not around. You went out

663
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 2: and got Fitzpatrick. He's on the decline. Uh do you

664
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 2: need you need Jason Marshall to start and be good

665
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 2: at corner? Your rookie? You might the offensive line? You

666
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 2: need Paul to hit it left tackle, a rookie at

667
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 2: left guard? Offensive line? A lot of questions there. It's

668
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 2: like a bad offensive line, potentially really bad secondary. That's scary.

669
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 2: How can you make up for it? I mean, I

670
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 2: don't know. I think this team is in trouble. I

671
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 2: mean Phillips and Chubb, how healthy are they and when

672
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 2: can they contribute? Can they get back to the players

673
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 2: that they were that'll help, which you know as a

674
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 2: front seven then has a lot of potential there because

675
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 2: the offense, like if the offensive line is going to

676
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 2: be there, then you gotta worry about two of staying healthy.

677
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 2: Is Tyreek the same player that he once was? Because

678
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 2: without Tyreek, you know, bad offensive line and Tyreek not

679
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 2: garnering the same respect that he once did. He saw

680
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,879
Speaker 2: what it did at the offense last year and it's

681
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 2: just not the same unit. I don't know. I think

682
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 2: this team's in trouble. I think this team has been

683
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 2: built so poorly, managed so poorly. And if you look

684
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 2: at Tyreek last year, one point eight yards per rout run.

685
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 2: Two years before that he was at three point twenty five,

686
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 2: three point seven to five, pretty big drop off. He's

687
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 2: not getting any younger. But yeah, I mean the secondary

688
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 2: is in trouble, the offensive line is in trouble. I

689
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 2: have I'm pretty low in this team. I'll go to you,

690
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 2: do you have anything to add and what do you

691
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 2: think or what do you think could happen for this

692
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 2: team to reach its ceiling and get to a next level.

693
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 1: I mean, I just think it continues the theme of

694
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:10,720
Speaker 1: kind of the in shitification of the AFC East, largely

695
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: due to what I what I'm starting to think is,

696
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: you know, this day and age, it's it's easier than ever.

697
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: We all work remote to some capacity, and I just

698
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: wonder if that's kind of affecting the way these like

699
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 1: head coaches and front offices are kind of working, because

700
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 1: it almost feels like they're not on the same page

701
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 1: and like you have a good coach. But then your

702
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,439
Speaker 1: question some of the GM moves or what not, because

703
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: I think Miami, to your point it you know, McDaniel

704
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: is looking worse and worse, but a lot of the

705
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: moves careers made have been it just it just doesn't

706
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 1: make sense. And I don't think we're ever getting that

707
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: offense bat first of all, because what you've done in

708
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: Miami is you've essentially said, okay, we're as long as

709
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: we have too a tongue of Baio as our quarterback,

710
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:58,320
Speaker 1: we gotta get the ball out of his hands.

711
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 3: We can't we can't have sitting back in the pocket.

712
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 1: So you're never getting that offense back from two years

713
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 1: ago where Tyreek was averaging three point seven yards a

714
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 1: route because tour was you know, the top of the

715
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: league in a died which you need time for that,

716
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: Like you can't. You can't just drop back off the

717
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: back foot and just throw it up.

718
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 3: So what did you do? You your best offensive line

719
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:20,240
Speaker 3: are retired?

720
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 2: Uh?

721
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 3: You know your your offensive line has been deteriorating. You.

722
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: You make a trade that I don't know, like your

723
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 1: your relations with your players seem like Tyreek Co didn't

724
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,959
Speaker 1: want to play for you last year. John Smith doesn't

725
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 1: want to didn't want to play for you this year

726
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 1: because they felt like he felt disrespected.

727
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 3: And the most you see that most tweet, I did

728
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:43,760
Speaker 3: not see the most of you. What did he tweet?

729
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 2: He tweeted out, Uh, hot take be a pro bowler

730
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 2: on the Dolphins get treated like shit. Happy for my

731
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 2: guys though, go ball out. This was when the tweet

732
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 2: about the Steelers acquiring Johnny Smith and Jalen Ramsey.

733
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it it's I mean, listen the Steelers for

734
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 1: whatever you want to say about the Steelers, like I

735
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: take that trade like ten of times, Like I just

736
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 1: don't know what the Dolphins are like. The Dolphins to

737
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 1: me the biggest because you you can kind of use context.

738
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: Cool if you get such a small stample in the

739
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:18,879
Speaker 1: NFL that you kind of have to say, okay, well,

740
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: you know, if guys had success in the past, maybe

741
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 1: had something, you know, kind of like we're looking at

742
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: Liam Cohne.

743
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,879
Speaker 3: Uh, you know, just okay, let's let's kind of grasp

744
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 3: onto something. It's it just seems like.

745
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: There's no vision of how to truly excel anymore in Miami,

746
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: including McDaniel. It just seems like they're kind of he's

747
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 1: kind of tethered to making it work as best he

748
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: can with Tua getting the ball out super quick, and

749
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: nothing's getting fixed. You're losing skale guys, your offensive line

750
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: is getting worse. Uh, you're never gonna get now. You're

751
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: not even unlocking Waddle to his full potential either. Because

752
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 1: it was they you had this offense, and it wasn't

753
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: just the time, but it was once you took it

754
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: was like mid season, what was it twenty three or

755
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: something like that, once Steve Fense just started to figure

756
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: out where to put guys in.

757
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 3: The throwing lanes for Tua. It's just it's just nothing.

758
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 1: Nothing was ever the same since, and it wasn't just

759
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,399
Speaker 1: simply like, Okay, Mahomes with the two deep shell things.

760
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:22,240
Speaker 1: It was like, it's this has just been a bad offense.

761
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,479
Speaker 1: It's been it hasn't been efficient. Tyreek kill is probably

762
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: the least of their issues. I mean, guys just aren't

763
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 1: playing up to their potential and then and then when

764
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 1: guys do, they're off the.

765
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 3: Tree in the next year.

766
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:35,240
Speaker 2: Definitely, Yeah, it hurts.

767
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 1: And John Smith was a weak last year. So the

768
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 1: fact that you just chased him out of town and

769
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,839
Speaker 1: of all people, why would you sign a guy who

770
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 1: has commitment issues? And he literally said, the Giants made

771
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: me lead block and I knew right then and there

772
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: I was going to retire.

773
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 3: And then he was he dropped.

774
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 1: He was like in the position to catch a game winner,

775
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: but like he had already decided he was going to

776
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: retire by that.

777
00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 2: And this is the this is the guy that essentially

778
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 2: going down to Miami. Man, they don't this.

779
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,959
Speaker 1: This is why, this is why we're not concerned about

780
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: the bills and why people are you know, prior rat

781
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,760
Speaker 1: the Patriots because look at the Violet.

782
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 2: Well we didn't mention, we didn't mention the Jets. Yet

783
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 2: I won't spend too much time on them. Sorry Jets fans,

784
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 2: but how does this thing work for the Jets this year?

785
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 2: In terms of exceeding their expectations? Flirting with a wild card?

786
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 2: We will have to happen. The offensive line has to

787
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 2: be really good. They're gonna have to run the ball.

788
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 2: The offensive line is gonna have to be really good.

789
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,240
Speaker 2: So who wins that center battle between Timman and Myers?

790
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 2: Does the Fishanu Membo tackle duo come together? And can

791
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,879
Speaker 2: they be elite? Because they need to run the ball.

792
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 2: The offensive line needs to be great. You know, Field

793
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 2: is gonna hold the ball too long? Like they need

794
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 2: to Who's the wide receiver too? Like? They need someone

795
00:39:55,719 --> 00:40:00,080
Speaker 2: to step up and help out Garrett Wilson. Because in

796
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 2: order for this team to get where they want to get,

797
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 2: it's run the ball. And then their defense has to

798
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 2: be really good. And I have questions on that side

799
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 2: of the ball as well. I mean, Jermaine Johnson his health,

800
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,879
Speaker 2: that's something to keep an eye on. And then I'm

801
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 2: just really worried about the cornerbacks after Sauce Gardner. Now,

802
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 2: I mean, I can tell you's the Ravens van Brandon scene.

803
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 2: It isn't the answer. So it's the defense has to

804
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,840
Speaker 2: They really got to hit the defense. They gotta stay healthy,

805
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,879
Speaker 2: they got to find a consistent pass rush, the corner group,

806
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 2: and it's just the whole secondor in general outside of

807
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 2: Gardner has to come together in the offensive line. Like

808
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 2: that's what I'm watching. This team is gonna have to

809
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 2: run the ball to be successful. A lot of questions

810
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 2: on the Jets, obviously with one of the lowest win

811
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,439
Speaker 2: totals in the league. Any quick thoughts on the Jets

812
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 2: before we hit the AFC West.

813
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's another one of these teams where whatever positives

814
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: are probably just going to be completely outweighed by the

815
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: incompetent owner and.

816
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 2: They're run so bad.

817
00:40:58,360 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah.

818
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 2: They have they have what a fifty million dollar dead

819
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 2: cap it for Rogers this year next and then you

820
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,280
Speaker 2: paid Fields forty million.

821
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 3: It's like that is there's something and you got you

822
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 3: didn't get.

823
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 1: You didn't get Ben Johnson, so you go get his

824
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 1: wacky and like I mean not not to you know,

825
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 1: Tanner entry, Mike, Mike transformed the office, but I mean

826
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: you didn't e't give much to work with and then

827
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: so he's just going back like the guy keep hearing

828
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 1: is a making the most noise in campus, Josh Reynolds,

829
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: and that's you know, he's a guy that was was

830
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 1: there on Detroit, you know, wasting away with like the

831
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 1: likes of DJ Chark, and it's just like, is it

832
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: the front office?

833
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 3: Is it the coaching staff who has the most?

834
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: But it's the meld is not there, and it's you're

835
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 1: kind of you got guys just reverting to what they.

836
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 3: Know and star Yeah, I mean, yeah, they were bad.

837
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 2: They were that's one score games. There were horrible like

838
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 2: disciplined stats, that's the coaching penalties at horrible field goal

839
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 2: luck on both sides, like Ulbrick Hackett downing. It was

840
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,879
Speaker 2: a disaster. So like there's some upside there, but they're

841
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 2: gonna have to run the ball with fields and the

842
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 2: defense has to be good. And I'm not sure that

843
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 2: both of those things are defense. They're off the line,

844
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:21,240
Speaker 2: are lead enough to compensate for some of the issues

845
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:22,959
Speaker 2: they have elsewhere. So it might be a long season

846
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 2: for the Jets, but there's a lot of change with

847
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 2: the coaching staff, so we'll see what they can do.

848
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 3: That's gonna do it.

849
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,160
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