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Speaker 1: Hello Sunshine, Hey bessies, It's Wellness Wednesday. And whether you're

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Speaker 1: still recovering from the election or just navigating the messiness

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Speaker 1: of life, stress feels very real for a lot of

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Speaker 1: us right now. Psychologist and Northwestern University professor Judith Moskowitz

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Speaker 1: is here to reveal why positive thinking can actually help

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Speaker 1: us live longer lives. It's Wednesday, November six. I'm Simone

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Speaker 1: Boyce and.

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Speaker 2: I'm Danielle Robe and this is the bright Side from

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Speaker 2: Hello Sunshine, a daily show where we come together to

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Speaker 2: share women's stories, to laugh, learn and brighten your day.

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Speaker 1: Today's Wellness Wednesday is presented by Coliguard.

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Speaker 3: Danielle.

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Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but I have been stress

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Speaker 1: eating to get through this election cycle.

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Speaker 3: Is it throwing your mental health off too? It really is.

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Speaker 2: I kept saying I was cautiously optimistic, and then a

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Speaker 2: friend of mine said, no, I'm nauseously optimistic. And that's

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Speaker 2: truly how I feel. I'm jittery about it.

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Speaker 1: It's jittery is the exact right word, because it's this

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Speaker 1: mix of anxiety and hope and anticipation, all very powerful emotions.

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Speaker 2: And I think that's true no matter where you stand

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Speaker 2: on the political spectrum. Elections, specifically presidential elections just bring

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Speaker 2: a whirlwind of emotions, and I think a lot of

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Speaker 2: us think about what comes next the day after the election,

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Speaker 2: what now? And to me, it's like a really powerful

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Speaker 2: reminder that we're all navigating this moment together, and so

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Speaker 2: regardless of the stress and uncertainty, what can we focus

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Speaker 2: on that unites us and reminds us of our shared values?

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Speaker 1: And even in these uncertain times, there is one thing

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Speaker 1: that we can control, and that is our mindset, how

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Speaker 2: It's so well said, and I think that's why we're

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Speaker 2: calling in an expert today, right Judith Moskowitz is a

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Speaker 2: professor at Northwestern University who studies the effects of positive

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Speaker 1: She is one of the most trusted voices on the

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Speaker 1: unique mental and physical effects of positive emotions. I'm actually

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Speaker 1: really curious about this course that she created, called the

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Speaker 1: Resilience Challenge, which studies eight key skills that apparently can

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Speaker 1: cultivate positive emotions. So we're going to learn all about

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Speaker 1: it right now. Judith Moskowitz, Welcome to the bright Side.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, for inviting me. Welcome, Welcome, We're so happy

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Speaker 3: to have you.

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Speaker 1: Perfect timing because it is International Stress Awareness Day, but

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Speaker 1: we honestly didn't even need that holiday designation because it's

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Speaker 1: the day after the election, So I think everybody understands

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Speaker 1: what stress feels like. Right now, we are going to

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Speaker 1: get into the research backed ways that we can deal

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Speaker 1: with stress, but before we do, i'd love to hear

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Speaker 1: how you got involved in this field in the first place.

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Speaker 1: Will you tell us about your early days as a

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Speaker 1: stress and coping researcher.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, So I'm trained as a social psychologist and mixper

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Speaker 4: cheeses and stress and co and emotion. And early on,

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Speaker 2: One of my favorite definitions of wisdom is being able

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Speaker 2: to hold two opposite truths at one time. And when

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Speaker 2: I was reading your work, you talk about that idea

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Speaker 4: So thank you for picking up on that, And it's

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Speaker 4: it'll all be fine. So that is absolutely not what

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Speaker 3: What are some of those ways?

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Speaker 2: Because I've heard you say that you're a natural positive reappraiser,

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Speaker 2: and I've never heard that term, and I was thinking

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Speaker 3: It doesn't mean saying, Okay, it's not bad.

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Speaker 4: So the reappraisal of you know, our political climate right

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Speaker 4: That could be your initial appraisal, and your reappraisal of

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Speaker 3: You can give me any situation.

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Speaker 3: So I've positively reappraised it. So that's just one of

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Speaker 2: So when we talk about the power of positivity, it's

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Speaker 2: but there really is a.

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Speaker 1: Power in it.

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Speaker 2: And your research reveals what happens in our bodies when

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Speaker 3: What does happen in our bodies.

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Speaker 4: When you're experiencing stress of any kind, you have a

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Speaker 4: very natural and mostly adaptive stress response in your body, right,

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Speaker 4: So your heart rate increases, your palm sweat, your blood

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Speaker 4: evolutionarily adaptive responses that were good when we were running

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Speaker 4: greater susceptibility to infection. So what practicing some sort of

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Speaker 4: it helps bring down that stress response, even if it's

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Speaker 4: just for a moment of respite. The experience of a

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Speaker 2: We'll be right back with Judith Moscowitz. Don't go anywhere,

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Speaker 2: and we're back.

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Speaker 1: So you mentioned that you've don developed a course at

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Speaker 1: Northwestern that uses eight skills to increase positivity. I know

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Speaker 1: to recognize a positive event each day and then savor

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Speaker 1: that positive event by logging it in a journal or

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Speaker 1: telling someone about it. How is positivity different when experienced

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Speaker 1: in the context of community.

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Speaker 4: Oh, so this is great. So you just talked about

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Speaker 3: And I think the savoring.

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Speaker 4: Part is the one that can really be practiced easily

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Speaker 4: in communities. So with other people, you can notice that, oh,

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Speaker 4: get to experience that positive event as well. When I'm

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Speaker 3: So that's all the more powerful.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just thinking that as you share a

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Speaker 1: do the same thing. I actually really love this list

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Speaker 1: of eight tips that can help us use positive emotions

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Speaker 1: to build resilience. Well, you just list out all eight

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Speaker 3: Would be super helpful for our bright side besties.

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Speaker 4: So positive events and savoring were the first two that

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Speaker 4: we just talked about. The third one we teach was gratitude,

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Speaker 4: but it could be gratitude for you know, nature or God,

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Speaker 4: if that's part of your spiritual belief system, or good

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Speaker 4: things in your life you're grateful for. Our fourth skill

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Speaker 4: then we also talk about sort of mindful meditation as

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Speaker 1: Everyone always tells us to sit with our emotions, but

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Speaker 4: All the societal pushtages be happy, you'll live longer, you'll

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Speaker 3: Yes, and I'm glad I said it that way. I

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Speaker 2: What advice would you give to people who want to

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Speaker 3: In, it's going to increase your wellbeing.

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Speaker 4: And it's also going to increase positive emotion, which is

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Speaker 2: I think this has been really positive. We so appreciate

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Speaker 2: your time. Thank you for joining us on the right side.

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Speaker 3: Judith, thank you so much. I've really enjoyed it.

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Speaker 1: Judith Moskowitz is a professor at Northwestern University who studies

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Speaker 1: the mental and physical health effects of positive emotion during

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Speaker 3: That's it for today's show.

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