WEBVTT - Germ-free Dirty Hippies 0:00:03.800 --> 0:00:06.680 Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind from how Stuff 0:00:06.680 --> 0:00:13.760 Works dot com. Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind. 0:00:13.800 --> 0:00:17.400 My name is Robert Lamb, and I'm Julie Douglas. You know, Julie, 0:00:17.400 --> 0:00:21.480 I I found out very recently, after almost three years 0:00:21.480 --> 0:00:25.560 working here, that there's a shower, like a full bathroom 0:00:25.560 --> 0:00:29.479 and shower on this floor. Yes, yeah, yeah, it's a 0:00:29.640 --> 0:00:33.239 it's of course a high ranking official. We cannot disclose 0:00:33.280 --> 0:00:35.920 the person's name, but yeah, they have a shower. And 0:00:35.960 --> 0:00:38.920 now that person is no longer in that area. And 0:00:40.240 --> 0:00:41.920 I think all of this riff raff have taken it 0:00:42.000 --> 0:00:45.239 over well not well, last I checked, maybe you have 0:00:45.600 --> 0:00:47.440 a shower shower you. I don't think anybody can get 0:00:47.440 --> 0:00:50.400 into the actual executive bathroom, but unless you have a 0:00:50.400 --> 0:00:53.680 special key, yeah, the executive and somebody may have it. 0:00:53.720 --> 0:00:56.160 I don't know. Somebody's done from it instead of using 0:00:56.200 --> 0:00:59.920 the public squalor toilet, so the rest of us used. 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:02.440 But it makes you think it's like cleanliness, right, is 0:01:02.960 --> 0:01:06.039 next to godliness? That's the old old thing. Yeah, so 0:01:06.160 --> 0:01:09.480 if you are a high ranking executive, then you're a 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:13.200 little closer to godliness and the corporate ladder of things 0:01:13.200 --> 0:01:15.960 and Therefore, you get to bathe as much as you want. 0:01:16.000 --> 0:01:18.040 Like you can have like a morning meeting, take a shower, 0:01:18.120 --> 0:01:22.160 get out, dry off, have another conference call, than another meeting, 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:24.160 than another shower. You can get up to like five 0:01:24.160 --> 0:01:28.840 showers a day. Okay, So sure, you're you're that executive. 0:01:29.120 --> 0:01:31.880 You're very clean, you have a lot of Lamborghinis and 0:01:32.040 --> 0:01:38.360 nice income. You have many choices of mustaches that you 0:01:38.360 --> 0:01:41.440 could wear. I'm assuming this is like a luxe thing, right, 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:45.200 I'm assuming this is every executive has this kind of thing. Yeah, 0:01:45.280 --> 0:01:47.520 but here's a little something to throw down there that 0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:50.720 you don't have. What's that You probably don't have good bacteria. 0:01:51.680 --> 0:01:53.760 And that's how it is. Sometimes it doesn't matter if 0:01:53.800 --> 0:01:55.320 you have all the money in the world. If you 0:01:55.360 --> 0:01:59.560 don't have good bacteria, you ain't got nothing. So this 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:03.000 this comes under the idea that that maybe on one 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:05.280 hand you have the the the clean cut executives and 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:07.680 the other the dirty hippies. Yes, and then maybe the 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:12.160 dirty hippies, um, who not only don't have a shower 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:15.040 at work, might not even be using their shower at 0:02:15.080 --> 0:02:18.280 home every day. Um that they may have the right 0:02:18.280 --> 0:02:20.799 philosophy here. They may have the correct way of life 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:23.679 and this culture war of bathing. Well, okay, we talked 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:25.520 a little bit. Uh you know, we talked about this 0:02:25.560 --> 0:02:27.560 in the in the podcast about as your Gut to Genius, 0:02:27.560 --> 0:02:29.760 we talked about all the bacteria in your gut and 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:34.320 what's going on there. Similarly, scientists researchers are starting to 0:02:34.440 --> 0:02:36.680 look at the bacteria in our skin and say, who 0:02:36.760 --> 0:02:38.840 wall hold on a second, there's a lot more going 0:02:38.880 --> 0:02:42.840 on here at skin deep level than we knew about before. 0:02:43.040 --> 0:02:45.440 Perhaps it's not a good idea to wash away a 0:02:45.480 --> 0:02:48.079 lot of good bacteria. And in fact, there's something called 0:02:48.080 --> 0:02:52.080 the Human Microbiome Project which is essentially mapping the skins 0:02:52.120 --> 0:02:57.280 ecosystem and the Yeah, they're calling the skins ecosystem, which 0:02:57.320 --> 0:03:01.079 was really cool. And they're even saying that it's it's 0:03:01.080 --> 0:03:03.119 a lot like a zoo and that there's much more 0:03:03.240 --> 0:03:07.760 diversity or maybe even like a rainforest. Um. Yeah, so 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:12.400 they're saying that the human body is resembling a super organism. Okay, 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:15.280 so my body, my my skin rather is a jungle, 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:18.520 and I should maybe not get up every morning and 0:03:18.560 --> 0:03:22.799 slash and burn it in the shower exactly exactly. Um, 0:03:22.840 --> 0:03:25.880 And I'm like Okay, I'm gonna say this. I don't 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:29.119 know what everybody's uh jungles are like with their armpits, 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:33.520 so I'm not suggesting that people don't bathe. However, we 0:03:33.560 --> 0:03:37.360 do have good data that perhaps it's not as necessary 0:03:37.400 --> 0:03:41.440 as before. This sort of American ideal of cleanliness and 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:45.280 godliness isn't exactly the right path, right. Well, the connection 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:48.560 between cleanliness and godliness is really fascinating and pretty much 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:51.760 spans the entire length of human history. There's a great 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:54.880 book out there called Clean A History of Personal Hygiene 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:58.800 Impurity by Virginia Smith, and I highly recommend picking this 0:03:58.920 --> 0:04:00.960 up if anybody's really interests in it, because it basically 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:07.160 she exhaustively analyzes the the emergence and UH and an 0:04:07.200 --> 0:04:10.760 advancement of On one hand, hygiene, which is my body 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:13.040 needs to be cleaned sometimes because it gets dirty, and 0:04:13.080 --> 0:04:15.360 if it gets to dirty, there's a problem. And then 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:19.599 the idea of purity, the idea that yes, exactly that 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:22.440 my my soul is pure, that that there's a connection 0:04:22.480 --> 0:04:26.680 but in between physical and spiritual purity or mental purity, 0:04:26.760 --> 0:04:30.240 and these two issues become intertwined throughout human history. So 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:32.320 suddenly we have situations where it's like, oh, I'm going 0:04:32.320 --> 0:04:35.719 into the sauna to sweat out my illness and also 0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:38.919 maybe a tone for sins and just it just gets 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:43.720 just complicated and intertwined throughout history. So we have this thing, 0:04:43.760 --> 0:04:46.880 this cleanliness and godliness that if I can, if I 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:49.800 can scrub it out, then that I'm going to be 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:51.680 better in the long run. Right, Yeah, we have that. 0:04:51.800 --> 0:04:54.200 So we've got that that sort of um, you know, 0:04:54.279 --> 0:04:57.480 altross of history, honest, right, that has colored our perception 0:04:57.600 --> 0:05:01.599 of bathing and hygiene. And then we also have the 0:05:01.640 --> 0:05:05.120 American Civil War in which Frederick law Homestead if it 0:05:05.120 --> 0:05:08.760 sounds familiar, he was the guy who um created Central 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:12.560 Parker was the architecture. Yeah, but he was actually on 0:05:12.560 --> 0:05:15.440 the Union side. He created a big sanitation campaign and 0:05:15.480 --> 0:05:17.960 he basically said, look, um, let's, you know, for all 0:05:17.960 --> 0:05:20.920 the soldiers coming in off warfield. You know, if they're 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:25.360 if they're even if they're just hanging out let alone, 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:27.720 they've got some sort of wound. Let's make sure that 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:31.560 they're cleaned regularly. But their linens are clean regularly, and 0:05:31.560 --> 0:05:34.040 that the walls and you know, the hospitals and whatnot 0:05:34.080 --> 0:05:37.480 are all cleaned and they found that that greatly decreased 0:05:37.480 --> 0:05:39.599 disease and illness. So all of a sudden, people have 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:41.960 that aha moment and we're like, oh, yeah, we should 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:45.039 probably do this all the time, which has led to 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:47.839 our obsession with bathing. Well. I also have to say, 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:51.960 as a I'll admit that I am sometimes a maybe 0:05:52.000 --> 0:05:55.240 not compulsive, but I I love a good shower, you know. 0:05:55.320 --> 0:05:56.880 I Mean it's like I get up in the morning 0:05:56.920 --> 0:05:59.560 and on one level, yes, I want to feel clean um. 0:05:59.760 --> 0:06:01.880 On another level, I want my hair to not stand 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:05.400 straight up. Yeah. But then also it's just like you're 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:07.560 you're hit with all this hot water. It wakes you up, 0:06:07.640 --> 0:06:10.880 it refreshes you, it it's just you know, you're you're 0:06:10.920 --> 0:06:14.200 living completely in the moment while that water is on 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:17.560 your face, and there's nothing wrong with that. It's the 0:06:17.600 --> 0:06:21.080 soap thing. Yes, well it becomes problematic if you do 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:24.320 it all the time, right. I mean, I'm like, one 0:06:24.400 --> 0:06:26.559 level of that is the whole No Pooh movement, which 0:06:27.080 --> 0:06:30.039 isn't quite as strange as it sounds, because when I 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:31.840 first a friend of mine was like, yeah, I'm doing 0:06:31.839 --> 0:06:33.520 this no Pooh thing, and I'm like, WHOA, I don't 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:36.719 know if that's possible. I think, Yeah, I'm still hoping. 0:06:36.839 --> 0:06:40.400 What is shampoo? Okay, all right, well you know I 0:06:40.440 --> 0:06:44.160 mean for me, that's chologically, it's just I'm going to 0:06:44.240 --> 0:06:46.720 go there. Well yeah, when I first I was like, yeah, 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:49.320 let's if that's possible, I'm I'm on board. No, No, 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:51.839 it's actually with the the shampoo thing, it is actually 0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:54.160 really good for I was talking about not pooing ever 0:06:54.240 --> 0:06:57.160 again like that's that's also good for me. But but 0:06:57.279 --> 0:06:59.719 I'm not using shampoo, and the idea of being that 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:01.320 you're hair is gonna be better off in the long 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:04.600 run if you're not either, the more extreme version being 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:07.080 that you're not using all these harsh soaps, right, The 0:07:07.120 --> 0:07:09.159 idea is to distribute the oils rather than strip them 0:07:09.200 --> 0:07:13.360 a wet. The same thing with the skin though, So, um, 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:15.040 I don't know if you know this, but this is 0:07:15.240 --> 0:07:18.000 so crazy. There are ten bacterial cells for every one 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:21.120 human cell. So you know, if they had a quorum, 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:25.120 like you wouldn't even have a vote there, right, basically, um, 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:27.520 and then although some of the bacteria on our skin 0:07:27.680 --> 0:07:29.600 is is foreign and can make a sick, most of 0:07:29.640 --> 0:07:32.400 it is harmless and a lot of it is beneficial. 0:07:33.160 --> 0:07:36.440 So there's this a great New York Times UM article 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:39.560 called The Grid Unwashed, and in that article they say 0:07:39.600 --> 0:07:42.200 that good bacteria are educating your own skin cells to 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:45.800 make your own antibiotics. Says Dr Richard Gallo when that's 0:07:45.880 --> 0:07:49.240 he's the chief of Dermatology Division at the University of California, 0:07:49.280 --> 0:07:51.480 San Diego, so we know what he's talking about. And 0:07:51.520 --> 0:07:53.960 so they essentially produced their own antibotics that kill off 0:07:54.040 --> 0:07:57.320 bad bacteria. So if you're showering three times a day, 0:07:57.440 --> 0:08:00.000 then you're probably gonna have a real problem in terms 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:02.760 of that good bacteria that you're stripping off, and you're 0:08:02.760 --> 0:08:05.000 actually gonna be damaging your skin cells and making it 0:08:06.040 --> 0:08:11.280 more apt perhaps to actually have that bad bacteria gualm 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:13.760 onto it. Yeah, the US Centers for Disease Control and 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:18.160 Prevention actually warns that UM that that Washington scrubbing um 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:20.600 excessively or in an environment like a hospital where you're 0:08:20.640 --> 0:08:23.440 you're constantly using these anti bacterials and you're wearing gloves, 0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:28.400 that you can get irritant contact dermatitis, which is uh 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:32.000 actually an occupational risk for health care professionals. And UH 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:36.280 also excessive scrubbing can wear away the stratum corneum, which 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:39.520 is the utmost skin barrier, so that you know, if 0:08:39.520 --> 0:08:42.440 you're regularly breaching this drying it out, it's getting irritated 0:08:42.440 --> 0:08:45.439 and cracked. Like you said, it's gonna be um more 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:50.960 susceptible to pathogens. It's like cleaning out a neighborhood, like 0:08:51.160 --> 0:08:53.240 you know, everybody gets for closed on suddenly all these 0:08:53.280 --> 0:08:56.640 empty houses and less reputable things, and people may move 0:08:56.679 --> 0:08:59.440 into those homes. You know, you clean out the natural 0:08:59.520 --> 0:09:02.760 environment of bacteria. You know, who knows what the what 0:09:02.800 --> 0:09:04.839 the next tenants are going. You're saying behind my ear 0:09:04.920 --> 0:09:07.440 might become a crack den, Yes, a crack den of 0:09:07.679 --> 0:09:12.880 bacterial may am okay, I thought that might be the case. Um, 0:09:12.920 --> 0:09:15.199 this is actually interesting to the places on the human 0:09:15.200 --> 0:09:18.920 body where there are different types of diversity, because again, 0:09:19.000 --> 0:09:21.120 remember you've got all that bacteria, and it's not just 0:09:21.240 --> 0:09:24.679 one kind of bacteria. There's actually read somewhere there's like 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:28.160 a thousand different type of bacteria on your skin at 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:31.520 this very moment um. Scientists actually expected to find the 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:36.040 most bacteria and the most diversity in moist, dark environments 0:09:36.080 --> 0:09:39.600 such as our under arms, between our toes um. How 0:09:39.640 --> 0:09:45.160 do I say this delicately. Are our Crecus buddcus? Yeah, 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:48.920 I think that's the Latin here, Yes, But it was 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:54.680 actually the forearms that have the most bacterial diversity, like 0:09:54.720 --> 0:09:57.600 the inside of the forearm. Well that they didn't say exactly. 0:09:58.120 --> 0:10:00.679 I think I'm gonna guess it's on the inside, just 0:10:00.720 --> 0:10:02.680 because you know your your arm is going up and 0:10:02.679 --> 0:10:05.079 down and perhaps and I don't know, this is Julie's 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:10.400 like flimsy theory, and you might might have more uh 0:10:10.600 --> 0:10:13.320 contact with your other skin right right, I don't know, 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:17.480 but actually the forum has forty four bacteria species on average. 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:23.160 By comparison, the behind the ear only saw nineteen bacteria species. Wow, 0:10:23.200 --> 0:10:25.480 so like the worst like instead of like thinking about 0:10:25.520 --> 0:10:27.240 like spitting on somebody, if you're really mad at somebody, 0:10:27.240 --> 0:10:29.760 come to them and just start rubbing your forearms against 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:31.640 their face, just like when I'm both side up and 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:35.240 down against their cheeks. Yeah. And then also the crease 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:38.600 of the arm right, um, So you know that's that 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:40.560 kind of makes sense because that's sort of a waste 0:10:40.559 --> 0:10:43.160 area that really, So that I found that really interesting 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:45.920 because a lot of times when I'm on the Marta, 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:49.439 the public transportation train here, we have in Atlanta. Um, 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:51.640 you know, it's just it's just like uh, you know, 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:54.679 it's it's just like the London tube, except smaller and 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:58.480 less efficient. Um mind the gap. Yeah it's uh, but 0:10:58.480 --> 0:11:01.720 but I'm generally reluctant to actually touch surfaces with my fingers, 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:04.640 so I will wrap my arm around it and actually 0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:10.040 end up clutching the bar with that area right below 0:11:10.120 --> 0:11:12.880 the what are we calling it, the opposite of the elbow, 0:11:12.960 --> 0:11:17.959 the inner elbow, the increase of your your arm. Yeah, 0:11:18.200 --> 0:11:20.400 so I'm I'm doing I'm I thought I was doing 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:22.560 a good thing. I'm actually doing my part to dirty 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:25.840 up part up all funky. Yeah. Yeah. And then there's 0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:27.760 the whole thing where they say, you know, of course 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:31.000 cover your mouth when you sneeze or but people have 0:11:31.040 --> 0:11:33.839 been encouraging to use as to use the vampire or 0:11:33.880 --> 0:11:35.800 the Dracula method right where you bring it up and 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:40.120 you cover your nose and mouth with the the crook 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:44.160 of your elbow there the crook and uh and that 0:11:44.240 --> 0:11:46.160 sounded great. It's like, okay, I'm not going to be 0:11:46.240 --> 0:11:48.160 you know, using that for anything. I'm not you know, 0:11:48.240 --> 0:11:50.640 putting my food there and eating out of it. So 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:52.959 but it but it turns out it's like, oh, I'm 0:11:53.000 --> 0:11:54.840 I might be getting a little sick here. Let me 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:57.440 press my face to pick up against the dirtiest, most 0:11:57.600 --> 0:12:00.880 bacterial populated part of my body. Let me blow this possible, 0:12:01.440 --> 0:12:04.600 you know, virus now into the crook of my elbow 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:06.520 with the forty four bacteria, and see if I can 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:09.160 create my little peatree dish and then rub it on 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:13.040 some mass transportation like pole and yeah, you look down 0:12:13.080 --> 0:12:15.760 and they're like their little cities emerging there. Yeah, yeah, 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:23.640 the little skyscrapers. This presentation is brought to you by 0:12:23.720 --> 0:12:32.680 Intel Sponsors of Tomorrow. But that's a Again, that's the 0:12:32.760 --> 0:12:34.800 surprise of all of this is that, you know, from 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:36.880 what I could tell and the research, it wasn't until 0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:39.040 two thousand and seven that people actually started to look 0:12:39.080 --> 0:12:41.920 at the skin and say, what about the bacteria there? Um. 0:12:41.960 --> 0:12:44.600 And another really cool stat that that we found is 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:48.160 that the most stable skin sites look more similar across 0:12:48.280 --> 0:12:52.040 different people than separate skin sites on one person. So 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:55.360 that means that strangers often share the same bacteria living 0:12:55.480 --> 0:12:58.439 on their under arms, even as two separate sites on 0:12:58.520 --> 0:13:02.160 the same person contained wild different bacteria. So if you 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:04.720 ever like you know, you feel really separate from humanity. 0:13:04.800 --> 0:13:07.000 Just think about that. Just think about your your armpits 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:10.680 uniting all of us. It's a beautiful thought, isn't it. 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:15.280 It's and I mean, it's just you know, thinking about 0:13:15.280 --> 0:13:17.280 it's like it's only been since the forties and fifties 0:13:17.640 --> 0:13:20.320 that that we've really gotten into the whole like must 0:13:20.320 --> 0:13:23.360 bathe every day kind of thing and modern convenience for 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:27.120 modern conveniences, everybody suddenly has a bathroom. Um, it's why 0:13:27.160 --> 0:13:29.600 if you you stay at older hotels, you frequently find 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:33.199 the whole exterior bathroom thing and you're you're, you're like, WHOA, 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:35.120 I can't believe I'm playing X amount of night and 0:13:35.160 --> 0:13:36.520 I've got to walk out in the middle of the 0:13:36.640 --> 0:13:39.880 night to go pee. But that's just part of it. 0:13:40.000 --> 0:13:43.040 But but, but the core here is that long before this, 0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:46.680 for millions of years before this, we were not taking 0:13:46.720 --> 0:13:48.880 baths every day. It's just it's a part of our 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:53.360 development that we were a dirtier people. Well, and they 0:13:53.440 --> 0:13:56.719 also are funkier people. We were a funkier people, and 0:13:57.400 --> 0:13:59.600 technology has changed with so much. I mean, even if 0:13:59.600 --> 0:14:03.480 you're a armor today, you're probably still not um in 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:06.120 the soil quite as much as you were before, right, 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:08.040 because we have machines that are taking care of things, 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:10.560 so we're not getting as so crazy dirty as we 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:12.719 were before, to the point where you come home from 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:15.200 your job and it's just like you've got hold dust, 0:14:15.240 --> 0:14:17.439 you know, under your your nail bed. I mean, it 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:20.320 still happens, right, but it's just not as frequent. Yeah, 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:22.160 Like I I don't take a shower when I come 0:14:22.200 --> 0:14:25.200 in in the afternoon from work because that would be 0:14:25.240 --> 0:14:28.600 a little silly since I generally don't break a sweat 0:14:28.600 --> 0:14:30.840 in the course of the day, and unless well maybe 0:14:30.840 --> 0:14:33.880 I should sometimes with Allen Marta and it's maybe you're 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:36.800 just trying to slough all that those e pollutants. Yeah, 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:39.880 that's true from your computer E pollutants and then just 0:14:40.040 --> 0:14:42.400 sort of smig and exhaust and all that. Okay, so 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:44.400 maybe maybe I should take a shower when I get home. 0:14:44.520 --> 0:14:47.280 But but the point being, I'm not toiling in the mud. 0:14:47.360 --> 0:14:50.640 I'm not, you know, I'm not returning home like streaked 0:14:50.760 --> 0:14:56.000 in the excrement of various farm animals. Most days. That's beautiful. Yeah, 0:14:56.040 --> 0:14:59.560 it's not. It's not like the Black Plague era, right, 0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:02.280 Like they're there's not urine hopefully um in the streets 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:04.960 and in feces and so on and so forth. Yeah, 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:06.800 And it's also even if I am breaking a sweat, 0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:09.000 it's uh like sweat in and of itself. It is 0:15:09.040 --> 0:15:12.160 not like stink juice coming out of your body. It's uh. 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:14.680 Now you let sweat set, you let it go on 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:18.960 unwashed than uh, than things can get a little extra funky, 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:21.760 I guess. But I mean sweat is not the enemy, actually, right, 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:26.160 that's not the funk causing um active ingredient here, right, 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:29.360 And in fact, i've heard um actually from There was 0:15:29.400 --> 0:15:31.640 a this American life that several years back for some 0:15:31.640 --> 0:15:34.800 guys intentionally went I became homeless. They were kind of 0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:36.200 down on their luck, and they're like, hey, it would 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:38.200 be easier if we just went ahead and became homeless, 0:15:38.240 --> 0:15:40.280 lived on the streets in New York where there are 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:41.640 a lot of you know, so we won't have to 0:15:41.680 --> 0:15:44.080 worry about going hungry because we know where to hit 0:15:44.120 --> 0:15:46.600 and where to go. Um. But but early on in 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:48.360 the process they were very into like, all right, we're 0:15:48.360 --> 0:15:51.000 gonna but we're gonna avoid falling into these into the 0:15:51.040 --> 0:15:53.920 trap of being like stinky bums and One of the 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:56.560 things they advocated was was washing the socks was just 0:15:56.720 --> 0:15:59.240 vital and there they said that if you ever like 0:15:59.320 --> 0:16:02.960 smell somebody on public transportations down on their their luck 0:16:02.960 --> 0:16:06.000 and kind of grimy and there's just they're reeking, there's 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:09.440 a good chance it's sock funk that's going on socks 0:16:09.680 --> 0:16:11.880 just you know completely, you know, they soak with sweat, 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:15.080 et cetera, and then they just stuff starts growing. I 0:16:15.080 --> 0:16:17.240 mean that, yeah, that makes sense, right, you're just you've 0:16:17.280 --> 0:16:19.680 got your own little ecosystem in your shoes. Yeah. And 0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:23.400 nobody's making the argument the dirty hippies. I mean they 0:16:23.680 --> 0:16:27.920 generally don't even wear socks, right, No, no, just yeah, 0:16:28.120 --> 0:16:32.040 see again they're that is like sort of I think 0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:39.200 the higher coal type of footwear that's worn by hippies. Um. 0:16:39.280 --> 0:16:42.200 But also the other thing here is the African glands. 0:16:42.240 --> 0:16:43.800 And these are glands that are found in the breast 0:16:43.840 --> 0:16:48.160 general area. Eyelids aren't pits and ear and in the breast. 0:16:48.200 --> 0:16:50.800 They if you're wondering, like why are they in the breast, Uh, 0:16:50.880 --> 0:16:54.800 they actually secrete fat droplets into the breast milk. They're 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:57.800 not making smelly breasts or anything. Um. And in the 0:16:57.840 --> 0:17:01.960 ear they helped form earwax. So again that's the culprit here. 0:17:02.000 --> 0:17:04.760 It's not the fact that you actually sweat. And I've 0:17:04.800 --> 0:17:08.399 also read before to the diet can obviously give you 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:10.879 a funk. Yeah yeah, Like if you're eating nothing but 0:17:11.000 --> 0:17:14.720 garlic and onions every day, day and day out broad 0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:17.640 chicken like four seven. Yeah, if your diet is nothing 0:17:17.640 --> 0:17:20.679 but fast food fried foods, then then yeah it might 0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:23.400 it might have an effect on the waist you smell yeah, yeah, 0:17:24.080 --> 0:17:27.119 So you know, with all that in mind, still I 0:17:27.520 --> 0:17:30.160 think that what's interesting about all of this is that, Okay, 0:17:30.200 --> 0:17:32.240 we've got the discovery that there's good bacterial in the skin, 0:17:32.600 --> 0:17:38.160 and yet we have this very robust antibacterial soap market 0:17:38.560 --> 0:17:41.800 that's in everything. It seems like it maybe has cooled 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:44.040 off a little bit in the last year, but I 0:17:44.040 --> 0:17:46.000 mean I were seeing it in body wash and so 0:17:46.040 --> 0:17:49.080 on and so forth, and actually it's not ideal at 0:17:49.080 --> 0:17:52.399 all to be using antibacterial wash, at least the stuff 0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:56.199 that's used um commercially. There's a place for it in 0:17:56.280 --> 0:17:59.840 hospitals obviously, yeah, or you know, it's like maybe you 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:03.760 keep it around for for times when yes, some antibacterial 0:18:03.760 --> 0:18:06.400 soap would be a good idea, right, Like you're doing 0:18:06.440 --> 0:18:10.080 something particularly dirty, or you accidentally stick your hand in 0:18:10.400 --> 0:18:15.320 cat feces. I don't know, um accidentally, Yeah, every placing 0:18:15.920 --> 0:18:21.119 dozy dough with the polls on mass transit, right, so 0:18:21.240 --> 0:18:22.960 you might want a little pure l. Yeah, but it's 0:18:23.000 --> 0:18:24.280 like you just ate dinner and you got a little 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:28.160 grease on your your fingers. Maybe not a good time 0:18:28.200 --> 0:18:31.320 to actually just scour the bacteria from your hands. Yeah, 0:18:31.320 --> 0:18:33.720 And there are plenty of studies out there that have 0:18:33.960 --> 0:18:36.880 looked at the effectiveness of antibacterial step and they're essentially 0:18:36.880 --> 0:18:41.560 saying that that just the normal soaping, counting the your A, 0:18:41.640 --> 0:18:43.959 B c's, you know, I think it's like under two 0:18:44.000 --> 0:18:46.639 minutes or something. Um, washing your hands for two minutes 0:18:46.720 --> 0:18:49.040 with just regular soap is much more effective than the 0:18:49.080 --> 0:18:53.440 antibacterial soap because the antibacterial soup is actually stripping away 0:18:53.480 --> 0:18:56.840 the good bacteria along with the bad bacteria. I think 0:18:56.880 --> 0:19:00.960 sometimes there's a sense with with washing hands though, that 0:19:01.040 --> 0:19:03.679 it's it's kind of like bacteria and these these deadly 0:19:03.720 --> 0:19:05.960 things that can get into it's all these germs that 0:19:05.960 --> 0:19:09.160 they're kind of magic and and therefore you're gonna need 0:19:09.280 --> 0:19:13.080 something equally magical to get rid of it. I don't 0:19:13.080 --> 0:19:14.959 know that that that really makes sense. Like I like, 0:19:15.040 --> 0:19:17.800 I I know on a on a scientific level what's 0:19:17.840 --> 0:19:20.520 going on with germs, But but still there's this sense 0:19:20.600 --> 0:19:24.000 like like like there are germs everywhere and uh, and 0:19:24.040 --> 0:19:26.840 they're these kind of magical unseen things, and so you're 0:19:26.840 --> 0:19:29.520 gonna need something with a little magical potency to it 0:19:29.640 --> 0:19:31.560 to take it out, and not just something that kind 0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:35.439 of smells nice. It's m M. You're saying, it's kind 0:19:35.440 --> 0:19:37.840 of like it's kind of crazy, I admit, but I 0:19:37.840 --> 0:19:40.720 mean I feel like a lot of people must see 0:19:40.760 --> 0:19:43.080 it that way, you know, I don't know, I don't know. 0:19:43.160 --> 0:19:45.119 I mean we are we talking about, like like I 0:19:45.200 --> 0:19:48.200 used to use antibacterial stops a lot more until my 0:19:48.200 --> 0:19:51.720 my wife convinced me not to so, and I think 0:19:51.720 --> 0:19:53.400 part of it when I was using it all all 0:19:53.440 --> 0:19:55.280 the all the time, it was like I'm gonna wash 0:19:55.280 --> 0:19:57.119 my hands, it's gonna be as clean as possible, and 0:19:57.160 --> 0:20:00.000 then they're gonna if there's any risk of germs getting 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:01.320 on my hand, I'm gonna go ahead nip that in 0:20:01.320 --> 0:20:04.280 the butt because it could be these these hidden and visit. 0:20:04.359 --> 0:20:06.760 You know, it's like putting some sort of magic token 0:20:06.840 --> 0:20:08.720 up on the door to keep ghosts out, all right, 0:20:08.760 --> 0:20:10.520 So it's like a talisman. Yeah, it's kind of a 0:20:11.359 --> 0:20:15.040 weirdly like, yeah, a talisman like science looping back around 0:20:15.040 --> 0:20:19.160 and becoming fault pale all in the course of your handwashing. Well, actually, 0:20:19.160 --> 0:20:22.600 all that handwashing with antibacterial soap has given rise to 0:20:22.640 --> 0:20:25.920 something called the hygiene hypothesis, which is actually really interesting because, 0:20:25.960 --> 0:20:27.880 as we all know, there's been a huge up tech 0:20:27.880 --> 0:20:32.520 analogies with children, and so the hygiene hypothesis says basically 0:20:32.520 --> 0:20:35.639 that our super clean world is depriving our children's immune 0:20:35.640 --> 0:20:40.080 system system of developing properly. So instead of doing what 0:20:40.080 --> 0:20:42.200 it's supposed to do, which is to fight off bacteria, 0:20:42.520 --> 0:20:45.720 it doesn't really have that bacteria anymore really to fight off. 0:20:45.760 --> 0:20:48.240 So it's kind of the mother boy effect, right where 0:20:48.280 --> 0:20:53.760 them like motherboy, like you're you're the codl child, Mama's boy. Yeah. Yeah, 0:20:53.800 --> 0:20:56.920 that that that is protected from all the hart realities 0:20:56.920 --> 0:20:59.280 of the era of the world, and then therefore can 0:20:59.320 --> 0:21:05.400 never really um survive unattended because they just have no defenses. 0:21:05.520 --> 0:21:08.399