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What a nice little series it 19 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 2: ended up being out in LA Everyone was very very 20 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 2: worried about how we were gonna look against Los Angeles Dodgers, 21 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 2: and to be fair, the first two games of the 22 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 2: series we lost and we're going, uh oh, maybe people 23 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 2: were right, but no, the Mets came back won the 24 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 2: last two of the series. We split in Los Angeles, 25 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 2: which I feel like we haven't been able to do 26 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 2: in a really long time. Me and James have been 27 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 2: watching the games. We are super super excited to talk 28 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 2: to you guys, especially after that crazy exciting Game four. 29 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 2: Before we do get going into everything, though, make sure 30 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 2: you guys are following us on all our social media 31 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 2: at mets up, Twitter and Instagram, as well as the 32 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 2: YouTube channel mets up Podcast. 33 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: There will be a YouTube video this time. We have 34 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 1: good internet. The boys are in studio together in the office. 35 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: We're ready to go, so you should have a video 36 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: for you on the YouTube channel. If you're listening to us, 37 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google, wherever you listen, download the podcast, 38 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: follow us, subscribe whatever it is, drop us a rating, 39 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: drop us a review as well. It really does help 40 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: us out. And without further ado, let's bring in James. 41 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 2: What's up? Long time no see a right? Good series, 42 00:01:57,840 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 2: great series. We haven't clapped it up in a while, 43 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 2: but was especially considering how it started. But we'll talk 44 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 2: about that later. Let's talk about the good stuff because 45 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 2: Game three and four, the Mets came out and they 46 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 2: swung the bats well they pitched well, and particularly in 47 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 2: Game four, it feels like everybody made an impact. Absolutely, 48 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 2: we gotta start a game four because last game of 49 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 2: this series on Sunday was one of the more intense 50 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 2: Mets games I can remember in recent memory, whatsoever, I 51 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 2: haven't been pacing like I was in this game. It 52 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 2: feels like in a long time. 53 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: Like granted, there have been some type Mets games this year, 54 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: but this one from pitch one, it felt like we're 55 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: like on edge watching this intently. 56 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 2: This was the first Mets game that thought had this 57 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 2: type of intensity since even before the pandemic twenty nineteen, 58 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 2: when they got hot in that second half a little 59 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 2: bit actually made this think they could seek into the 60 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 2: playoffs for half a second. This was This was the 61 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 2: most intense Mets game, the most like Keith in even personally, 62 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 2: I've been to a Mets game in a long time. 63 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: It had playoff atmosphere, it did. It had a playoff 64 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 1: vibe in June, which is really good. And I think 65 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 1: you can look forward to these guys playing each other 66 00:02:57,840 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: probably at some point in the playoffs. Is as long 67 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: as everything continues to go well for these Mets. And 68 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: like we said from the start of the game. It 69 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: was kind of just rare in to go. It didn't 70 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: feel great at the start. We saw Trey Turner take 71 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 1: a pitch deep in his first at bat. 72 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, a little spiteful move from Turner here hitting a 73 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 2: home run the day after we killed his i think 74 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 2: twenty six game history. Yeah, literally his first at bat 75 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 2: after not getting the history continued, nice shot to left field, 76 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 2: and when we saw that, I went, maybe this is 77 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 2: gonna be. 78 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: The game where Trevor Williams finally gets shelled. But no, 79 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: he settled in really nicely. 80 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, Trevor Williams was really good going up just against 81 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 2: Julia Rius, who's one of the better young pitchers and 82 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 2: all of baseball, against the Dodgers, who have one of 83 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 2: the best lionstall baseball. That's what probably gave most Mets 84 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 2: fans pause, probably made some people a little nervous. I 85 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 2: didn't even think it wasn't cookie schedules start this game, 86 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 2: you know, That's what I thought, like as of last night, 87 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 2: he was on the schedule. But I don't know if 88 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 2: that was different for the Mets internally, but I think 89 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 2: he was expected. But Williams was awesome. He showed up 90 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 2: against the Dodgers. He threw fifty percent ninety mile an 91 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 2: hour fastballs and just got people out, which is kind 92 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 2: of been his thing. I feel like all year you 93 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 2: watch Trevor Williams pitch and you don't really understand why 94 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 2: it works. 95 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I can't believe he got five strikeouts. The 96 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: Dodgers have one of the best lines in baseball, not 97 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: an easy one to strike out by any meanings. 98 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 2: Sive strikeouts in five innings and the only damage was 99 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 2: that Trade Turner home run the first. He scattered a 100 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 2: few other hits. I kind of shited myself when he 101 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 2: was left in there for the fifth inning to face 102 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 2: Mookie Freeman and Trey for the third time. But he 103 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 2: got them out, and I kind of think something that 104 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,359 Speaker 2: was big for Williams. I haven't I didn't notice this before, 105 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 2: but his slider kind of showed up today. It was 106 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 2: a really, really good looking pitch. I got five whiffs 107 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:29,559 Speaker 2: on seven swings. Look gross at times. Well, I remember 108 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 2: at one point during this game. I don't know to 109 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 2: who it was, but he threw one and really Trey yeah, 110 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 2: and we're like, hey, throw more of those, because he's 111 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 2: been throwing this curveball that I think has probably been 112 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 2: his more used pitch than the slider in the past, 113 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 2: and even in Colorado I mentioned I was like, stop 114 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 2: throwing this pitch. It just hangs. Trey Turner caught that 115 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 2: hanging curveball early on in the game. But like you said, yeah, 116 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 2: that slider is really solid, and I would like to 117 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 2: see Trevor Williams maybe used a little bit more in 118 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,359 Speaker 2: lieu of that curveball not being as sharp sometimes definitely, 119 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 2: but overall, his effectiveness has been a really, really really 120 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 2: big deal for the this team. Oh it's been huge. 121 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 2: It's been massive. 122 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: The fact that he's been able to take over this 123 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: spot for whether it's Max Scherzer or Tyler McGill, whichever 124 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: you want to put it, and come out every five days, 125 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: give us basically five hittings and keep us in the 126 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: game against a perennial offense. I mean, this lineup top 127 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: to bottom, I don't think we can stress how good 128 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: it is. 129 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 2: The top three hitters are MVP basically like all MVP players. 130 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: We talked about me and you were saying, Mookie Betsen, 131 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: Frey Freeman or Hall of Famers, and Trey Turner is 132 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: probably gonna be one if he continues playing like this 133 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 1: as a. 134 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:28,679 Speaker 2: Chance he is. If you had to set up any 135 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 2: like three consecutive hitters in baseball, I think all three 136 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 2: of these guys are at least in the top ten, 137 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 2: top twelve of your selections. 138 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, like everyone's picking my trout. You're probably picking one 139 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: so two, like, but these guys are right on the fringe. 140 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 2: And then like even like guaranteed, like definitely better than 141 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 2: those guys. Probably then vlad Kunya probably kind of tatis. Yeah, 142 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 2: I guess your do. But think of the guys we're 143 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 2: talking about. But it's hard to even name five guys 144 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 2: better than any of those three. 145 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, they're they're absolutely discussing in the fact that 146 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: they hit one, two, three in that lineup is insane. 147 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's the fact that you have to make 148 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 2: that decision every single time that lineup turns back over, 149 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 2: which was something that we'll talk about more in Game 150 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 2: three and the other games of this series. But it's 151 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 2: difficult when this thing flips and you have to see 152 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 2: those three guys again, you're like, I can't even imagine 153 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 2: getting out of this. About damage, But Trevor Williams is 154 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 2: able to get through them. Yeah. Really, his effectiveness is 155 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 2: a big deal this Mets team right now. 156 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 1: And like we said, it kept us in the game 157 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 1: because even though those two runs early, that was it 158 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: that we saw from Trevor Williams and the Mets kind 159 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 1: of chipped away. We got a run by the starring 160 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: Marte home run, who is just scalding hot. I don't 161 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: know what's gone on since Starry Marte has come back, 162 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: but he looks like a completely new player's hitting the 163 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: ball in the air and it's great. 164 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 2: Seventh home run of the year for Marte. His career 165 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 2: highs twenty three, and that was with the rabbit ball 166 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen, so on pace to beat that number 167 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 2: in a completely different run environment. And with that, you 168 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 2: kind of think the power might be real because he's 169 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 2: running a career high fly ball rate like about twenty 170 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 2: nine percent right now, which is not like significantly higher 171 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 2: last year. I think he was running about twenty two 172 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 2: and like he's always been kind those mid to low twenties, 173 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 2: but even just pushing thirty percent for him is a 174 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 2: major milestone and him with a little bit more power 175 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 2: because he always hit the ball hars. Yeah, always on 176 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 2: the ground. The fact that maybe the Mets have actually 177 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 2: done something internally to help him lift it, help him 178 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 2: drive it more consistently. That changes his entire complexion as 179 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 2: a player. As he enters his mid thirties, him being 180 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 2: in that two hole feels a whole lot better when 181 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 2: he has when he has the ability to hit for 182 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 2: power like he has shown. He's been so so instrumental 183 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 2: with this team's success over the last month. He's been 184 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 2: fantastic and it really I just I love that that 185 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 2: kid who tweeted me, that's Stirling Marte tweet about Oh 186 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 2: thank god he's on the Mets, and he had six 187 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 2: hundred ops at the time at the beginning of the 188 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 2: month of May, and right now I think he's right 189 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 2: around eight hundred. If not over it, I don't know. 190 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 2: I'll try. I'll try to go ops like you. It's great. 191 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 2: He's just played really well. That's all we need to 192 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 2: And this was the only thing we got Agains Julia Reus. 193 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 2: We were kind of looked like we were putting the 194 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 2: bat in the ball a little bit. In the first inning. 195 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 2: He had Brandon Nemo's number. Yeah, he decided his their 196 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 2: that bad. He had a very nice line drive with 197 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 2: men on, but that was really all we did. Agains 198 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 2: Hulio Reus, who just throws curveballs in awkward spots every 199 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 2: single pitch, seemingly. And the Mets too struggle with curveballs. 200 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 2: We've known this for years now, but everyone struggles with 201 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 2: a curveballs. Gribbles really hard pitching hit. That's why they 202 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 2: throw him so often. 203 00:07:57,840 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: Now and then we're gonna pick this up in the 204 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: eighth because this is kind of where it really started 205 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: to heat up here, Mets. We're still down to one. 206 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: We start the getting off though, with the horrible, terrible 207 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: shortstop that nobody wants on their team, Francisco Lindor and 208 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: shocker because Francisco Lindor is good, in case you didn't 209 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: catch the sarcasm there, double, followed up by Pete who 210 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: hit another double, get a run, make it two to two, 211 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: and the Mets are starting to cook right. 212 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 2: Now here, starting to cook. And you get that kind 213 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 2: of monkey off your back immediately. It's the other thing 214 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 2: of this game. You're losing. I believe Bruce darg Gratherw 215 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 2: is already in the game, I think sorry for and 216 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 2: the Dodgers just throw all these relievers at you. You don't 217 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 2: know who they are, and they all just do incredible 218 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 2: things with their with their arms. But you get the 219 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 2: monkey off your back immediately. The game is tied. Your 220 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:37,719 Speaker 2: two best hitters did that, and now you have a 221 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 2: situation where it's kind of house money. Now we have 222 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 2: a man of second, nobody out, we have Scratch went 223 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,559 Speaker 2: across and JD. Davis really good professional piece of hitting. 224 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 2: I think Keith broke out in a half. Chubby hit 225 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 2: the ground ball to second base and move the run 226 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 2: into third. Didn't try to do too much what I say, 227 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 2: he was bricked up. He was full tors like he 228 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 2: was when he saw JD. Davis take the ball to 229 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 2: the right side give up it out essentially a sacrifice, 230 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 2: even though it wasn't because he's still swinging the bat. 231 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 2: That was good baseball. That is good baseball, especially in 232 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:06,839 Speaker 2: a TI game against the Dodgers when it's going to 233 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 2: be super super tight like we know. That was big, 234 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 2: followed up by a Canada hit by pitch on a 235 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 2: two to two count which was also used yes, and 236 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 2: then Escobar, Oh so close. I thought it was gone. 237 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 2: I thought it was gone off the bat, but the 238 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 2: sack fly will take it something. I don't want to 239 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 2: get lost in the fold here. I thought, this is 240 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 2: where you were going when you were going. Ah, this 241 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 2: wasn't a crazy at bat from dwile Wes was fantastic. 242 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 2: To get a sackfly. I think ten pitches in total, 243 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 2: four consecutive foul balls in a full count was really 244 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 2: really impressive from a guy who's been struggling, who's kind 245 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 2: of been a better ish. But I mean, you're just 246 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 2: saying the guy who's kind of becoming like the escapego 247 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 2: of the Mets Tweather right now for why the lineup 248 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 2: has been struggling. And you also had in that bat 249 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:42,839 Speaker 2: a couple of innings before this where he struck out 250 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 2: with men On and you had a situation where you 251 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 2: kind of love Marcanda being up with a guy in 252 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 2: third less than two hours because he always takes such 253 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 2: good at bats, and you get terrified. You have a 254 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 2: guy like Bruce dar Gratherof facing Atwalleo Westcobar who's been 255 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,559 Speaker 2: blown away by fastballs on occasion this year. So to 256 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 2: see him clutch up get the go ahead run in God, 257 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 2: I think that feels good for the Vet was absolutely huge. 258 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 1: And then the last insurance one that we got there, 259 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: which was unexpected by all means. Tomas Nito playing some 260 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: really really good baseball lately, walking, putting the ball and 261 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: play huge insurance run for us. 262 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 2: If you don want Neo knows the speed of the 263 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 2: pitch coming in, he's swing at it. Yeah, it's easy. No, 264 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,439 Speaker 2: he's He's much improved and seems like he's taking advantage 265 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 2: of the additional playing time since Shaves McCann has gone down, 266 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 2: which we saw a little bit too last year when 267 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 2: he started get a little more playing time. But it's true. 268 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 2: It's a very, i want to say, delicate balance. It's 269 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 2: a delicate bounce with Thomas Needo because he's not an 270 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 2: every day captured by no means. But he's done a 271 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 2: great job this far and the team loves him. They 272 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 2: do love him. He's a very good defensive catcher. Now 273 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 2: it gets interesting, though, because now the Mets have taken 274 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 2: a four to two league kind of against all lotts 275 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 2: net's only had one run of a solo home run 276 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 2: coming into the inning against a very talented Dodgers bullpen, 277 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 2: and now were it's kind of weird talking about nowasons 278 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 2: we're picking this series up at the end, right at 279 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 2: the beginning. But we used a lot, a lot, a 280 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 2: lot of relievers on Saturday night, so the bullpen was taxed. 281 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 2: Drew Smith was certainly not available going to innings night before. 282 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 2: Adam Alvino had already pitched in this game in the 283 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 2: sixth inning. Came in after Trevor Williams. Yeah, came in 284 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 2: right after Trevor Wild Gostick was used, and Gostick was used. 285 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 2: Alderman was used the night before, didn't throw that many pitches. 286 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 2: He might have been available, but kind of seemed like 287 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 2: he hasn't even though we only threw five pitches the 288 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 2: night before. He'd just been pitching a lot. It seems 289 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 2: like recently, Yeah, I don't remember your pitch on Friday, 290 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 2: but then you pitched on Thursday. He definitely pitched twice 291 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 2: this yearies. Yes, so you had said Lugo, who had 292 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 2: pitched the night before but didn't throw that many pitches, 293 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 2: and the Mets have seemingly become more comfortable with him 294 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 2: pitching on back to back days more recently, and had 295 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 2: Edward Diaz was yet to pitch in this series because 296 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 2: the Mets lost the first two games. Kind of not 297 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 2: competitively and they won by a good margin. As Gary 298 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 2: Cohen said, destroyed the Dodgers crazy. It was crazy before 299 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 2: the game. I've never seen Gary b like that aggressive. 300 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 2: And then he said that like just as sny showed 301 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 2: the slow motion like frame by frame of a bird 302 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,199 Speaker 2: just annihilating a moth like on the railing at Dodgers 303 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 2: Day in really weird pregame set, but funny talk about that. 304 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 2: So you have these two guys to pitch, and the 305 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 2: eighth thing you have due up Mookie Bets, Freddie Freeman, 306 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 2: Trade Turner, the gauntlet if you will, three of the 307 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 2: ten best hitters in baseball you have to face consecutively, 308 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 2: and after that we will know what's going to happen. 309 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 2: And we saw its warm up as mess got through 310 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 2: the eighth, which that's that's smart baseball. 311 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: That's something that me and you have been screaming to 312 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 1: the mountains for is that while the idea of a 313 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: traditional closer is still very much in. 314 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 2: Baseball, especially with this Mets team, especially usage of Edwin, 315 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 2: but this is something that we've seen the Rays do. 316 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 2: This is something that we've seen the Brewers do. Whenever 317 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 2: you have the heart of the order, truly, what is 318 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 2: like really the safe situation. Of course it's not traditionally 319 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 2: the save, but who do you want facing Mookie Bets, 320 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 2: Freddie Freeman and Trey Turner. It shouldn't matter if it's 321 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 2: the eighth or the ninth inning. Those are the three 322 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 2: best hitters. And who's our best out of the pet 323 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 2: best arm out of the pen. It's clearly Edwin Diaz. 324 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 2: So I personally love that move. I know you like 325 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 2: that move as well. Mets Twitter, though, especially with what 326 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 2: happened later in the game, kind of flip flopped a lot. Well, 327 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 2: it's kind of funy because the second Edwin he has 328 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 2: got through this eighth inning cleanly. People were like Buck 329 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 2: Showalter managerial victory, Like, like best move Buck is made 330 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:49,319 Speaker 2: all year. This guy continues to push all the right buttons. 331 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 2: I'm not saying he doesn't push a lot of the 332 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 2: right buttons, but people, when the game was still going on, 333 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 2: when the Dodger still had three outs to go, we're 334 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 2: exalting the Mets. 335 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 1: If you guys were watching our twitters, neither me or 336 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: James tweeted about that right after the game, because we 337 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: go there's three more outs. We've seen this too many times. 338 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 1: The Dodgers are too good to say you won in 339 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: the eighth inning. That doesn't really happen with them. And 340 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: at the time I didn't really know. 341 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 2: No one really knew if this was going to be 342 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 2: Edward Diaz for a second inning for a six out save, 343 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 2: or if you're going to use lougo on back to 344 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 2: back knights, which are two things that the Mets have 345 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 2: shown they don't really want to do either of them 346 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 2: at all this year. So I guess it was kind 347 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 2: of a toss up at the time, But I do 348 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 2: think that this was the plan that Buck show Walter 349 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 2: Jeremy Heffner. The plan was that Edward Dia is pitching 350 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 2: the eighth because he wants to get the top of 351 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:30,559 Speaker 2: his Dodgers or they're out. He getting gotten out very close, 352 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 2: which he did. He can pitches, he looks great, dominant, 353 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 2: he's so sick chin music to Mookie Best and dropped 354 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 2: the slider on his ass, messed up to see one 355 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 2: hundred literally at your eyes, and then a slider on 356 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 2: the outside corner that you're like, oh, FAPs, oh never mind, 357 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 2: it's not there. But nevertheless, this was a good modern 358 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 2: decision by Buck Showalter and the Mets pitching staff. It 359 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 2: showed very good process. The only issue was the execution. Yes, 360 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 2: because of the ninth As we know, Seth Lugo comes 361 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:56,439 Speaker 2: into the game and immediately gives up a home run 362 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 2: to will Smith, immediately throwing the sinker, which we just 363 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,559 Speaker 2: we can't wrap our head it. Even watching the game, 364 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 2: you can see the difference between the sinker and the 365 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 2: four scene when you go one of them is a 366 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 2: really really good pitch and the other one is kind 367 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 2: of like a lazy I hope I can drop it 368 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 2: in there and steal a strike, which like, why would 369 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 2: you ever throw that when you have such a good 370 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 2: fastball like Seth Lugo. And also you can kind of 371 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 2: pick that singer up, I feel like easily for these 372 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 2: hitters because it doesn't look a lot like the fastball 373 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 2: or the curveball. I feel like it plays off the slader, 374 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 2: which also it doesn't seem to be that good of 375 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 2: a pitch yet we'll go through tons of sinkers and 376 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 2: sliders in this poor outing. That singer the will Smith 377 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 2: was like right just right in the middle of the play. 378 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 2: It dropped in like an outside singer when you don't 379 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 2: have a plus sinker like that just falls into the 380 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 2: middle of the plate if you miss, And I don't 381 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 2: understand the thought process behind that. A lot of these Dodgers, 382 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 2: not the ones who are elite, Like a lot of 383 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 2: these Dodgers were still just good. Are kind of all 384 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 2: happened to be lowball hitters. Well, Will Smith can't hit 385 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 2: a high pitch. We've seen Will Smith hit high pitches. Yeah, 386 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 2: these are very good players. And a sinker that while 387 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 2: it does have good velocity and like slightly above average 388 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 2: movement profile, it's nothing nothing compared to forcing fastball and 389 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 2: curveball can do in tandem. And it didn't look like 390 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 2: you really did have the best feel for the curve 391 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 2: or the fastball. He wasn't placing many of them at all, 392 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 2: but he really seeking, Like I say, through seven second helps 393 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 2: throwing pitching this inning, and right when Will Smith hit 394 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 2: the home run off the singer, he did not feel 395 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 2: good about Lugo getting through this. No, we didn't feel great. 396 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 2: He did get too quick outs right after that, though, 397 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 2: which was nice. But then Chris Taylor comes to the 398 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 2: plate and kind of the same thing like Mooie bets 399 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 2: earlier in this series. He throws a curveball that hung 400 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 2: massively and Chris Taylor hit what I thought was a 401 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 2: home run off the bat everyone did because the SNY 402 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 2: camera guy lost the ball. There were a lot of 403 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 2: like the sun was very active in this game. You 404 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 2: saw Mookie Bets and Stalling Marte both struggle in right 405 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 2: field with the sun, and by this point at the 406 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 2: end of the game, there were a lot of shadows 407 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 2: and left field where Chris Taylor hit the moonshot foul ball, 408 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 2: but he kind of lost the tilt of the ball, 409 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 2: lost the path of the ball, and you just saw 410 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 2: a ball go into the stands as Markana looked at it, 411 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 2: and you were like, I don't know, yeah, we had 412 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 2: no glue. Gumbis didn't even really know. My roommates stood 413 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 2: up and screamed, and I was like, no screaming, yet, 414 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 2: we don't know what this closed. It was very much 415 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 2: a foul ball. 416 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: It wasn't even really close actually, but it made us 417 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: get out of our seats a little bit, got him 418 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: all the way to O two, and then Chris Taylor 419 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: does what Taylor does, and that's just battle and battle 420 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: and battle. And then he hung another curveball to him 421 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: and he just hit it down the line for a double. 422 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 2: Through three straight balls after went down to two, a 423 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 2: couple of close pitches, one either fastball slide that was 424 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 2: way out so you completely missed, and then fouled off 425 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 2: two straight singers that got a lot of plate, and 426 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 2: then he just put the curveball low middle got the play. 427 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 2: I don't know if that was the intention, if he 428 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 2: didn't want to walk him. I told you this that 429 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 2: I didn't even think in that situation a walk to 430 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 2: Chris Taylor would be very bad because if Chris Taylor 431 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 2: is standing on first base, there's a good chance he 432 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 2: will get the second base in the steel. But you're 433 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 2: not assuming that Eddie Alvarez is on deck. Eddie Alvarez, 434 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 2: I can't even how many extra base hits you think 435 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 2: he has in the last one hundred games played. Three 436 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 2: and I mean anything, right, Yeah, So basically a situation 437 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 2: where if Chris Taylor is on first base, there's still 438 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 2: a very low likelihood that the game becomes tied. And 439 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 2: he's a guy who does chase a decent amount. This 440 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 2: is probably the one hole in Chris Taylor's games that 441 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 2: he will go outside and fish a little bit so 442 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 2: to put three straight balls in the heart of the 443 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 2: plate on a three to two count with not your 444 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 2: best pitch to the sinker like that, and then the 445 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 2: carve ball, though he did end with the curve both 446 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 2: the best pitch, but again we don't know if this 447 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 2: was the plan. Seth Lugo was having some struggle with 448 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 2: command this inning, but just seeing those three pitches drop 449 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 2: in get good with on all three laysa double and 450 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 2: Eddie Alvarez also getting a pitch on the plate merely 451 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 2: hitting a single. It was deflating. And then you saw 452 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 2: the conversation switch to Buck botch this to which we'll defend. 453 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:20,239 Speaker 2: I'll defend Buck on this, which is a great mom 454 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 2: Seth Lugo has to get out Eddie Alvarez. Yeah, Chris Taylor, 455 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 2: he's gonna get hits. He's a good hitter, Eddie Alvarez, 456 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 2: it has like a career average of like one sixty. 457 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 2: And also giving up a home run to Will Smith 458 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 2: like that's there's a lot that goes into poor execution, 459 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 2: but the process here was completely sound. With a couple 460 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 2: listeners tweet at me. Process still good after this play, 461 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 2: which is good because I just hope that now the 462 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 2: Mets don't go into like an reverse analytic shell here 463 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:44,719 Speaker 2: and start like bastardizing the process, because I think that 464 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 2: really was the right move to make when just execution. 465 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 2: What would the Rays do? I think they would do that. 466 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,199 Speaker 2: I think so too, And I Mookie Betts is going 467 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 2: to face any Mets pitcher, I would rather be Edwin 468 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 2: Diaz first for sure, before anybody else, one of the 469 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:00,199 Speaker 2: nastiest pitchers in the entire league, or Seth Lugo, like 470 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:01,959 Speaker 2: I don't know what I'm picking. And it's funny how 471 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 2: this played off of We're gonna talk about a few minutes, 472 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 2: but the decision on Saturday night, which was only in 473 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 2: the fourth inning when Mookie Bets had found his way 474 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 2: to the play for the third time in the game. 475 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 2: As Mark mentioned before, he had a ridiculous foul ball 476 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 2: off of a David Peace and I think it might 477 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 2: have been the slider it was. It was just something 478 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 2: that hung whatever a pitch on the plate, and it 479 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 2: took this one foul ball for Buck to make the 480 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 2: data driven decision and not let Mooki Bets see David 481 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 2: Peas in for a third time with men on base. 482 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 2: I could just imagine that people in the Met's R 483 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 2: and D department were standing up screaming at the TV like 484 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 2: thank you. They give the high five, fang high five. Yeah, yes, 485 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 2: we did it. We did it. 486 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: Buck listened or Buck understands, because it did seem like 487 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 1: he figured out the play in here a little bit. 488 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 1: Of course, it's a little bittersweet even though that's win 489 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 1: this game. It's now going to start this whole conversation 490 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,120 Speaker 1: of Oh, Lugo in the ninth he's our eight dinning guy. 491 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 2: I can't wait to hear Sala Lakat or John Jashremsky 492 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:53,719 Speaker 2: talk about something that's nonsense. Oh god, jeez, absolute nonsense 493 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 2: of Dash is a closer. He's got to pitch the ninth. 494 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 2: What are we crazy? We should try to tune into 495 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 2: the Yoshremsky Lakata hour. And I said, why, God, we 496 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 2: don't want to get dumber. Though. That's the thing, like, 497 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 2: like I like my level of intelligence, I don't want 498 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 2: to decrease it. Content content content is Maybe that could 499 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 2: be a little fun thing we do. One day, we 500 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 2: watched Selakata and John de Streemsky just talking about the 501 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 2: Mets on a live stream. What the hell are they're 502 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 2: talking about? Like wrong, wrong? Wrong, incorrect? Where are they 503 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,199 Speaker 2: going anyway? He could have get Eddie Alvarez. Ouw, that 504 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 2: was the whole thing. We go to the tenth inning 505 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 2: game still time you didn't lose? Did he lose? Mark 506 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 2: said that loud just ended. I don't care anymore. Yeah, 507 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 2: I did say that. I was I was I was mad, 508 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 2: I was perturbed. I was angry, especially because Craig Kimbrel 509 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 2: was in the game and we just don't touch him historically. 510 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 2: I mean, he's one of the better relievers like that 511 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 2: we've seen in the last like ten fifteen years. Statisically 512 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 2: my best relievers ever. Yeah, and especially against the Mets. 513 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 2: It feels like we never have any success against him. 514 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 2: But we have that run around second And the irony 515 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 2: here is that he had a very clean ninth inning. 516 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 2: They sent it back out for the tenth because in 517 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 2: a four game series, Dodger's bullpen was also taxed, and 518 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 2: immediately not that sharp first second DRD pitch of the 519 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 2: ending JD. Davis laced a single, no double. Well, it 520 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 2: was a single that kind of caught Chris Taylor in 521 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 2: a short hops with how Markanic got caught a short 522 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,640 Speaker 2: hop earlier in the game, got kind of like around him. 523 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 2: The best way to describe that ball Peach Corsey easily 524 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 2: JD slide in the second, You're like, holy crap, we 525 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 2: already got a lead and it's like they didn't just 526 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 2: started man a second nobody out Yeah, and then whether 527 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 2: it was a strikeout I believe in Canda had a 528 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 2: rough Oh yeah, we bads called nasty sliders. Yeah. We 529 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:20,919 Speaker 2: were like, wow, that was a bad Mark Canda at 530 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 2: bat like but also lead Kimba, it's also kimberl he 531 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 2: was nasty. And then we had the line out Escobar, 532 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 2: Escobar shortstop. He did hit it hard, but Jad was 533 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 2: caught in the middle of the baseline between second and 534 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 2: third double play, and that was kind of like, ooh, 535 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 2: only one. 536 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: Don't really like that. We just went from replacing the 537 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 1: guy on second base with. 538 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 2: No outs too. We got the whole up and the 539 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 2: booth was actually having a small argument during I think 540 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 2: it was JD's at bat because Keith was like, needs 541 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 2: some more smart baseball from JD got together run and 542 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 2: Ronnie and Gary were like, gotta play for at least 543 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 2: two here. One run is not ironically one runs probably 544 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,199 Speaker 2: not getted against the Dodgers, But I mean, who are 545 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 2: we to say that because we have relief ace the 546 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 2: adonis a Donnas Medina ready for the tenth inning against 547 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 2: a couple of scrubs pirates and former pirates, yes, owning 548 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 2: the Dodgers, Trevor Williams former pirate nasty today and donas 549 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 2: Medina former pirate nasty today. Chason Shreeve has score standing 550 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 2: on Saturday. There we go, Starling Marte hold run. Oh man, 551 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 2: look at the pirates own Los Angeles. I think that's 552 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 2: what we're learning today, especially after that sweep. But man, 553 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 2: a donnas Medina versus the top of the order, I 554 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 2: don't think I would have ever made the bet that 555 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 2: he would have done as well as he did. I 556 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 2: was praying to leave with a TI game, but got 557 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,719 Speaker 2: Mookie had a very intense flat ball. He got Freddy 558 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 2: Freeman to a nice ground ball to the right side, 559 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 2: and then all you gotta do is get Trey Turner 560 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 2: out after that. Yeah, but we had a little drama because, 561 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 2: of course, because this series was had a little bit 562 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 2: of everything. Yeah, Trey Turner, catchers interference on listen, Catcher's interference, 563 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 2: I think is a good rule in practice, but it's 564 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 2: also stupid when you can like literally take a purposely 565 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 2: late swing. You can extend your arms all the way back, swing, 566 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 2: catch the cat around a pitcher. We're never gonna swing 567 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 2: at and just get first base like Trade Turner did. 568 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 2: And I also didn't know that you could get catcher's 569 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 2: in apperance on the picture that you technically didn't swing at. 570 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 2: I guess the bylaws that you offer that it so 571 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 2: you can say I intended to swing at it, but 572 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 2: he stopped bullshit. Yeah, yeah, which is dumb because if 573 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 2: you watch that swing, Trade Turner basically got saved by 574 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 2: the catcher's glove because it would have been like a 575 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 2: check swing that we have just nicked off the bat 576 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 2: and rolled the first base for the end of the game. Yep, 577 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 2: But so he got the first base, stall second, stole 578 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 2: second because turn sick. 579 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: It was awesome, but ball don't lie though. We faced 580 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: Will Smith, who obviously hit the home run in the 581 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: ninth inning, little little nervous not feeling great Donas Medina, 582 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: but he ends up getting him out with a nasty, 583 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 1: nasty little sequence of pitches and we win the game 584 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: with the Donas media against he struck him out. 585 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 2: I mean really impressed with the donas media, someone who 586 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 2: we've said looks better than we expected, and this game 587 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 2: talk about big old balls for Adonis Medina, my god, 588 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:55,679 Speaker 2: cahs grandt and also just crazy irony because Trey Turner 589 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 2: literally took the bat out of his own hands the 590 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:02,199 Speaker 2: situation where his team was and and with the main 591 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 2: on third, yes and two outs, like there is an 592 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 2: argument to whether or not he should have been even 593 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 2: intentionally walking in the situation. If it was like someone 594 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 2: not Trey Turner, I would be much more inclined to 595 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 2: do it because he's gonna steal second base, and he 596 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 2: did so We'll Smith. A single from Will Smith will 597 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 2: have won the game there. But Trey Turner is literally 598 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 2: one of the best hitters in all of baseball, and 599 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 2: he argued to get on base rather than to hit 600 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 2: for a guy Will Smith to come up, who is 601 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 2: very good hasn't been up to I think his standards 602 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 2: this year is very good. And he got out and 603 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 2: the Mets wound up winning a game while Trade Turner 604 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 2: stilled on second base, which. 605 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: Ultimately makes us split the series. Now, as you guys know, 606 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: we're gonna still talk about the other games here. It 607 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 1: was just Game four was hot, guys. 608 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 2: Guys, no, especially with the four games series, we like 609 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 2: to roll with what's hot, and Game four was hot. 610 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,640 Speaker 2: Talk about the other one though, game three, because after 611 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 2: Game one and two, which were snooze fests, honestly, there 612 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 2: were just bad baseball games for the Mets. 613 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 1: We woke up, which was nice, especially getting to start 614 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 1: with that Lindor first sitting home run. 615 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:53,120 Speaker 2: Yes, and after the first two games there was some 616 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 2: not There wasn't a lot of guys falling rhetoric, but 617 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,439 Speaker 2: there was some of like Mets are being exposed rhetoric, 618 00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 2: scoring one run and two games off of Dodgers pitching, 619 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 2: the only run being a Pilanzo Sole home run, which 620 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 2: I shudn't even count because if he's not getting a 621 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 2: home run four games, like something else that's got wrong. 622 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 2: But Lindor coming back and hitting a home run right 623 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 2: away off Walker Bueller, things felt different. It felt like 624 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 2: the Mets were engaged and ready, and they were of 625 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 2: the same caliber as a Dodgers and ready to share 626 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 2: the field with them. 627 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: So I do believe that these numbers are caught up 628 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 1: with today's game, all right, six five. Yeah, I think 629 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,479 Speaker 1: these numbers are caught up. This is for the you know, 630 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 1: one of the top paid shortstops in baseball, Francisco Lindor, 631 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 1: who has what the highest four among all National League 632 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 1: shortstops in Major League baseball, which I don't know. I 633 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 1: heard this guy stinks. I heard he stinks. Wants a 634 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: lot of money. 635 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, makes a lot of money. 636 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: So he's not very good on the year, nine homers, 637 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: forty five RBIs. He's even stole seven bases, which is 638 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: like the most quiet seven steals ever, seven for eight 639 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: as well. Yep, two fifty nine average three forty one 640 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: on base seven to eighty nine. 641 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 2: Oh ps. 642 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: If you're looking at his career numbers, they're about the 643 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: exact same man. We know that the start of this 644 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: year average was a little bit lower because of the 645 00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 1: baseball's being different. Now that the balls seem to be 646 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 1: flying a little bit more again, we're seeing Lindor's numbers 647 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: go back up, and he's just basically exactly. 648 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 2: What we trade for. Heading into the game today, I 649 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,199 Speaker 2: was just looking at this guy, was doing some general 650 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 2: fangraf scrolling I try to do most days. Francisco Lindor, 651 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 2: if the season ended today, would have had the highest 652 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 2: WRC plus his entire career, including a forth the home 653 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 2: run season. 654 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 1: But he thinks though it's terrible, he's awful. You don't 655 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 1: want this guy on your team. He's got nothing. It's 656 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,199 Speaker 1: great to see him playing good baseball because he's a 657 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: good player. And we're big Francisco lind Lindor fans here. 658 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: We are not at lind Doork. No, he's quite good. 659 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: Noland Dorks Nolndork's allowed. 660 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:35,199 Speaker 2: But David Peterson, as he kind of does, wasn't that sharp. 661 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 2: He was also not that bad. The issue was that 662 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 2: the floodgates opened the second inning. Yeah, ground ball to 663 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 2: Pete should have been double play ball, and I forgot 664 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:44,959 Speaker 2: who was running. It was probably fast because almost every 665 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 2: day I think his hands are Alberto That sounds right. 666 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 2: I was gonna gress Taylor, one of those guys. Yeah, yeah, 667 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 2: grandball the Pete could have been easy to double play ball, 668 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 2: and he just sailed to throw a second an he 669 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 2: stayed alive. Peterson is someone who we've seen kind of 670 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,080 Speaker 2: be sullen after misplays in the field before that I 671 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:01,719 Speaker 2: noticed any of that this time. But something that has 672 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 2: effected this game in the past and and goes on 673 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 2: gives a big basis clearing double. The Mookie bets four 674 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 2: runs in because one score in the er, and now suddenly, 675 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 2: after a first sitting home run, a game you felt 676 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 2: like he needed to win, You're down four to one 677 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 2: in the second inning on an error and the guy 678 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 2: didn't pick him up, and things felt bad. But the 679 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 2: Mets do that thing where they answer right back. And 680 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 2: I feel like, especially knowing the context of being down 681 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 2: oh two in this series already, with the murmurs of 682 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 2: this team's really not that good, here come the Mets 683 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 2: that we all knew were eventually gonna come. This is huge. 684 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 2: This was huge, and it gets started with Patrick Mazica, 685 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 2: who works a fantastic walk Because I don't I don't 686 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 2: really know what to think about Patrick Mezka, but he 687 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 2: seems to make something happen every time he's on the field. 688 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 2: It's a good ballplayer, I think that. Yeah, I think 689 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 2: that's what it is. He's just a goo good ball player. 690 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 2: It seems like he has been pushed out of a 691 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 2: fifty to fifty share with Needo to more of a 692 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 2: seventy to thirty. We just fine this week. I think 693 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 2: Mesica only played once. Yeah, I mean especially against with 694 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 2: lefties on the mountain. He will never face a lefty 695 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 2: because Needle played all I mean, he might have played 696 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 2: there as an't remember, but Needle played all three games 697 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 2: in Washington. But this was a good little little walk 698 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 2: for Mezekie here which got the getting started. And he 699 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 2: was that one too. Took some tough pitches against a 700 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,199 Speaker 2: very good pitcher and walker Buller and to be the 701 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 2: nine hither and be able to draw that walk that's 702 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 2: like the epitome of a cat and mask game. And 703 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 2: getting off first base with the with the top of 704 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 2: the other behind the mets, top of the other that 705 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 2: has been scorching hat all year long, very very big yep. 706 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 1: Nimo walked another great at back because it was a beast. 707 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 1: And then Starling Marte who's been hot, like we said, 708 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: double which was huge. Lindor got a ground ball, and 709 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 1: then of course it all culminated with that big meat 710 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: Pete Donger. 711 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 2: He's a he's so good. He's literally in the MVP 712 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 2: conversation right now. Literally, of course he's in the MVP conversation. 713 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 2: He is the most he is the most home runs. 714 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 2: N RBIs in the National League. That sounds like an mvpick, 715 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 2: and the Pete MVP keeps saying it. This ball was like, 716 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 2: not the easiest pitch to Homer. It was like on 717 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 2: a lo a little bit outside. Yeah, I believe went 718 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 2: down and got the barrel on and just flung it 719 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 2: out to left field. No, Pete was a tiny Dodger fences. 720 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 2: He owns Dodger satan by the way, I think he 721 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 2: has seven home runs in eleven games there, or. 722 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: Might be seven to twelve now because of four but 723 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,120 Speaker 1: pretty good record for Pete Alonso. 724 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 2: In Los Angeles, pe Alonzo had just made an error. 725 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 2: The guys team I'm not gonna say guys team down 726 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 2: four one, but he opened up a situation where they 727 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 2: ended up being down, coming up two straight losses. And 728 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 2: you put a four spot right back on these guys 729 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 2: after they put one on you, and you knock Walker 730 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 2: Buehler out of this game in the third inning and 731 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 2: get to that Dodgers' bullpen. Walker Buleer looked like you 732 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 2: saw a ghosts he did. He fastball's not gata swings 733 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 2: and misses right now. Don't know what's going on with 734 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 2: he just. 735 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: Doesn't have a lot of juice on anything. Nothing particularly 736 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: looked Walker Buehler esque. 737 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 2: No, I mean he is a young guy. He's pitched 738 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 2: a lot the last few years. Big workload between even college, 739 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,199 Speaker 2: going through all the COVID stuff. I don't know how 740 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 2: to throwing program work for guys that came up that year. 741 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 2: Workhorse last two winnings. We talked a lot about how 742 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 2: consistently he was able to go six and seven last year. Yeah, 743 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 2: one of the most consistently in all of baseball is 744 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 2: Wearing's Harris fatigued. These guys are still young. They've paid 745 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 2: a lot of Baseball's Dodgers team last few years, and 746 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 2: they only have twenty seven percent of a World Series 747 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 2: to show for it. Yeah, that's true. They did not 748 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 2: win a full World Series. Forgot about that. I almost 749 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 2: forgot that they won a fraudulent series. It's a good 750 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 2: it's more than the mess of won World Series. Yeah, 751 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 2: but almost. It's almost half a World Series. It's almost. 752 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 2: It's a little over a quarter, so a little. It's 753 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 2: over a quarter of a World Series's basically the amount 754 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 2: of games we played this year that determined the World 755 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 2: Series champion. Oh my god, that's actually hilarious. Yeah right, Yeah. 756 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 2: Peterson then came back and actually gave us exactly what 757 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 2: I thought we needed, and I really thought this was 758 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 2: going to push him through the game. He gave us 759 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 2: a clean inning against the heart of the order, which 760 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 2: is so big shutdown innings after rally already sixty pitches 761 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 2: this point. Oh yeah, he was, he was. He's nibbling. 762 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 2: He loves to get three two or two two, it 763 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 2: feels like on everybody. And foul balls, foul balls too. Still, 764 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 2: I'm I'm gonna defend what Peterson did in this game overall, 765 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 2: Like he didn't get out of the fourth inning, so 766 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 2: you can't really call this like a very good star 767 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 2: of the overall. But I guess we'll talk about his 768 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 2: the way he got taken out of the ending once. 769 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 2: I just talk about his game in general. Three two thirds, 770 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 2: two hits, four walk, six k's, but just one and run. 771 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 2: All those three under and runs, it would have been 772 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 2: nice if he didn't let those in. But only three 773 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 2: hard hit balls this whole out. He can get eleven 774 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 2: wis seven of them on his slider, which is becoming 775 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 2: legitimate outpitch. He was guys are swinging through and he 776 00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 2: wasn't even really able to place it very consistently. It 777 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 2: was just moving so well that when he was able 778 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 2: to put in the right spot a couple even he 779 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 2: left over the plane. Guys just swung through. It's becoming 780 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 2: a very good pitch and the command is rough. But 781 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 2: the fact that Peterson stuff is now good enough to 782 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 2: at least get him through a Dodgers' lineup, a scary 783 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 2: Dodger's lineup twice and only give up three hard hit balls. 784 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 2: This is a good thing. And there was a lot 785 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 2: of stress and there was a high pitch COUMP A 786 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 2: lot of that was bred from the Peter A Lonzo air. 787 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 2: If hete didn't make that error, this could have been 788 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 2: like a legit five or six inning star for pietersnohere 789 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 2: he had six or seven strikeouts against this Dodgers' lineup, 790 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 2: and this development from him is a really, really, really 791 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 2: big deal and is helping the Mets so much, so 792 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 2: so much during this stretch with Autter Grammin Scherz, I'm 793 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 2: glad you brought that up because I didn't feel great 794 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 2: about how Peterson pitched, and I kind of felt like 795 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 2: we were almost taking step backwards, like we've seen him 796 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 2: step out at some point this year and like, look 797 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 2: good and give us what we need. And if I 798 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 2: was just a little bit disappointed, but now hearing a 799 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,719 Speaker 2: little bit of deeper numbers, I feel better. And the 800 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 2: irony is that this is a game that could have 801 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 2: gotten away from Peterson and could have been one of 802 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 2: those snowball games where things went wrong. And that is 803 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 2: all because Mookie Bets came up in the fourth inning 804 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 2: with men on. Would have been the third time you've 805 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 2: seen him, and we all know the stats were basically 806 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 2: every single hit and every single picture in baseball, the 807 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 2: third time someone sees somebody else, things get very very 808 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 2: easy for the hither and he came in mentioned this 809 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 2: a couple of minutes ago, laced lace of foul ball. 810 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 2: Do you remember what I texted you when this was 811 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 2: coming up. I said, this is a huge mistake. Yeah, 812 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 2: I think, I responded, I agree. 813 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, You're like, well, and you texted me, You're like, 814 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 1: thank god we got him out of there, because that 815 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: fal ball was scary. That foul ball was like and 816 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: I think buck, like you said we said earlier, even 817 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: when oh yeah, no, no, no, it almost like woke him up, like, oh, yeah, wait, 818 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: this is Mookie Bets against David Peterson, one of the 819 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: best hitters in baseball, going up against the left he crushes. 820 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 2: But you felt it because Buck was really trying to 821 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 2: nurse him through this inning because he had like ninety 822 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:43,959 Speaker 2: ish pitches at the time. Not that you wanted him 823 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 2: to throw another inning, but it's just like it's kind 824 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 2: of embedded in old baseball minds, like we get to 825 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 2: get this guy through as much as we can and 826 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 2: save the bullpen. But it's so rare to see you 827 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 2: guy taking out of a game in the middle of 828 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 2: that bad and it's kind of I think, probably a 829 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 2: little bit embarrassing for the pitcher. Did you see his reaction? 830 00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 2: I was tracking on my phone was out and about 831 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 2: he was not happy. I can't imagine it was. 832 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: I don't want to say he gave Buck lip because 833 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 1: I don't think that's fair. I think he was frustrated 834 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 1: that he got taken out in that spot, and then 835 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 1: when he came into the dugout, I mean throwing shit 836 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: and slamming shit where I was like, that's interesting. I've 837 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 1: never seen David Pearson show a motion like that. I've 838 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: seen him kind of like you said, get a little 839 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: down some shoulders. 840 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 2: I like to see a little fire from him. And 841 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 2: it's also a situation for Peterson where he knew his 842 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 2: stuff was good on this night. It was just the command. 843 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 2: And when you're a picture and your command isn't good 844 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 2: from God's commands, usually fine at least, I would say, 845 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 2: league average, you figure that's just an execution problem, like 846 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 2: the just something tiny with my mechanics. I clicked, I 847 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 2: found it, I found it, I found it. I know 848 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 2: I can get this guy like you don't want to 849 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 2: be taken out. It's kind of demasculating. And it's the 850 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 2: second start in a row for him too, where he's 851 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 2: like he wasn't as close as the last one, but 852 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 2: like on the precipice of getting like that, that win 853 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 2: per se. Yeah, and I think that is something that 854 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 2: still reigns important for a lot of these guys. But 855 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 2: it turned out to be the right move because Colin 856 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 2: Holderman was able to get Mookie Betts out and this 857 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 2: led to a string of Mets relievers just simply handling 858 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 2: the Dodgers. It wasn't exactly easy and it wasn't that pretty, 859 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 2: but Holderman out of Vieno chasing Shreeve, Drew Smith for two, 860 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 2: Juelia Rodriguez and Seth Lugo Joey one pitch again, by 861 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 2: the way, yes, one pitch. He does it every time, 862 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 2: seemingly at least once a week. Those guys combined for 863 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 2: five and a third scoreless innings against this Dodger lineup, 864 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 2: which is awesome, awesome, And when a decision like that 865 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 2: is made and someone gets upset, you kind of see 866 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 2: that it has the potential to not spiral a locker 867 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,239 Speaker 2: room or a club, especially now a veteran locker room 868 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 2: of club pass like this one. But it could piss 869 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 2: people off and make people upset. It could have people 870 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 2: second second guesting or thinking otherwise. And it just showed 871 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 2: that the right process bore the right results, and that 872 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 2: is a big reason the mess won these last two games. 873 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 2: How awesome is it? Though? 874 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 1: Like Dismet's bullpen, I feel like it's talked about so 875 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 1: much and it's so under a microscope. I mean, god forbid, 876 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 1: you see what Miguel Casher was doing, which he blew 877 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: that Yankees game today, which is nice because again a 878 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: lot of Mets fans I still think we're like, where's 879 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: Migul Castro. 880 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 2: I can't believe we don't have that guy. Wow, is crazy. 881 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 2: Colra Olderban's better than I think Migul Casher right now. 882 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 2: I think there's an argument to be made about that. 883 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 2: I wouldn't say's better than migul Casher right now. I 884 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 2: think he. I'm big on Holder, but I think hold 885 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 2: Him is really good. But they're like you comparing Miguel 886 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 2: Castro and Holderman, it's like comparing like tacos and like 887 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 2: I don't even know burritos, like a roopier float. No, 888 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,319 Speaker 2: it's not that, No, it is they both are really good, 889 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,239 Speaker 2: and they both have a different purpose. Miguel Castro is 890 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 2: like a four seamer which throws ninety seven with like 891 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 2: a white bout slide. Their Holderman is like sinker sinker color, 892 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 2: and he kind of hangs around, makes you swinging miss sometimes. 893 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,359 Speaker 2: He's playing a lot of the soft contact game with highvelocity. 894 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 2: They're just such different types of relievers around the zone. 895 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,800 Speaker 2: Bgaul Castro's kind of higher, a higher reward with the sliders, 896 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 2: but also tons of walks. Like those guys are very different. 897 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 1: My point being, how nice is it that we get 898 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 1: to have Colin Holderman, Ottavino Shree of Joelay, Like these 899 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 1: guys come in as are back into the bullpen, when 900 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: even just last year we saw Jacob Barnes get some 901 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,320 Speaker 1: significant innings early on. We've seeing guys like Daniel Zamora 902 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: get innings early on. Even before paulsey Will figured out 903 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,240 Speaker 1: how to be good, he was terrible with the Mets. 904 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 1: He was getting a lot of innings in the past. Like, 905 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,760 Speaker 1: it's really nice that this Mets bullpen, which is always 906 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 1: a question mark amongst Mets fans, seems. 907 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 2: To be really solid. It's also a situation where it 908 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 2: seems like the narrative has kind of ran out, like 909 00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 2: how far past like the truth the Mets has it. 910 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 2: Team have the ninth lowest bullpen eight in baseball. It's 911 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 2: pretty good, just behind the Rays and the Dodgers, two 912 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 2: teams who I would say are smart and have good bullpens. 913 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 2: So while it's not always that pretty, and while you 914 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 2: kind of see the Mets are lacking that true second option, 915 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 2: especially without Trevor may as he continues to rehab and 916 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 2: get back from injury, this bullpen does tons and tons 917 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,359 Speaker 2: of things well. And I would say there again are 918 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 2: an underrated group just because they happen to be the 919 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 2: scapegoat for most of the Mets losses and they lack 920 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 2: a second sexy option. Oh for sure, it's it's fun 921 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 2: to make fun of the Mets bullpen because you've been 922 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,760 Speaker 2: doing it for the last twenty years. If you're online 923 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 2: or whatever, it's going to be. Even with the ninth 924 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,399 Speaker 2: lowest era, the Mets have the second highest k rate 925 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 2: of any bullpen in baseball, and that's sick. Like this 926 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 2: bullpen does a lot of things well and they catch 927 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 2: a lot of shit, And I do get it. If 928 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 2: the Mets do want to go far, they're going to 929 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 2: need a second option to either be acquired or emerge, 930 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,359 Speaker 2: because there could potentially be like a I don't want, 931 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 2: a wealth of pitching options possibly could emerge at some 932 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 2: point in the second half. I don't know from where. 933 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 2: I don't know from how, I don't know why, guys, 934 00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 2: I don't even I'm not gonna say any names, but 935 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 2: it's possible some guy even through a bullpen session that 936 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:02,919 Speaker 2: was not talked about at all on Saturday, which is really, 937 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,319 Speaker 2: shut the fuck up, don't care. This Mets bullpen has 938 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 2: been pitching really well, right now not getting the respected 939 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 2: deserve again. Ninth lows cra second highest strike out rate. 940 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 2: I don't know how to argue with any of those 941 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,799 Speaker 2: things from a judging a bullpen's perspective. Both really good. 942 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 2: Great work from them on Saturday to lock down this win. 943 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 1: Yep, especially because we got the insurance runs from an 944 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 1: all another Alonso home run, and Wardo Escobar got on 945 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 1: the board with a home run. The balls were flying, 946 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 1: the Mets were on the receiving end, and escabomb and 947 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:28,760 Speaker 1: Esco bomb. 948 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,319 Speaker 2: It was good. And you see the Mets play these 949 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 2: games in the heat, balls flying Dodger Stadium pretty easy, relatively, 950 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,799 Speaker 2: Parke ten home runs out of and the offense can 951 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,280 Speaker 2: get back after two bad games. The other thing, briefly 952 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:40,800 Speaker 2: we should talk about the end of this game is 953 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,319 Speaker 2: Jeff McNeil. Oh yes, yeah, we should bring that up. 954 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 2: That in the ninth inning. Oh we didn't even bring 955 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 2: up the Buck whole Zach mckinstrey thing either. Oh yeah, 956 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,400 Speaker 2: oh my god. If this is what happens in the 957 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 2: four game series, they gotta stop giving us good things 958 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 2: to talk about. We would talking about Max Schuer's again 959 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 2: bit by his dog. Yeah, I mean we shouldn't talk 960 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:57,399 Speaker 2: about that because Mac Suiers has a non story. Because 961 00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:58,919 Speaker 2: of his non story, he got bit by a dog. 962 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 2: It's not a baseball jury. Mike Buma, of all people, 963 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,240 Speaker 2: was out from blood and Saturday morning. Well he's a catman, 964 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 2: Mike Puma. That's why that makes dogs. He's anti dog. 965 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,239 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say that anti dog. Mike Booma was anti dog. 966 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 2: I wouldn't say. I wouldn't go that far. Hand to God. 967 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 2: But we forgot to talk about the Buck thing with 968 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 2: the ninth inning? Was Zach mckinstree wasn't it was a ninth. 969 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:17,919 Speaker 2: It was the top of the eighth. It was the 970 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 2: top of the ninth. Sure he it was the top 971 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 2: of the knife for sure. Because the Dodgers threw in 972 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 2: the white towel. Dave roberts said on game Dave robertson 973 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,759 Speaker 2: were down five, you guys win. Zach mcintrey is gonna pitch. 974 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 2: We don't want to use one of our bullpen arms, 975 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,799 Speaker 2: and Buck said, no, no, no. The rule is if 976 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 2: you're gonna put in a position player to pitch, you 977 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 2: have to be down by six or more runs. To 978 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,280 Speaker 2: my brain, I went, why didn't you want Zach mcintrey 979 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 2: to pitch where we'd see we get one or more 980 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,239 Speaker 2: runs off of it. But I think the idea was 981 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 2: that you can use this guy so you can't use 982 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 2: him as much tomorrow, which we saw happen in Game 983 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 2: four because Evan Phillips was supposed to pitch two innings 984 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,399 Speaker 2: in Game four, but he was only able to pitch 985 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 2: one because he had to be used in Game three. 986 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,240 Speaker 2: So buck a little bit of manager chess there. Yes, 987 00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,919 Speaker 2: it ended up working out really well for us, it did, 988 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:00,880 Speaker 2: but it led to one of like the bizarre baseball 989 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,799 Speaker 2: sequence as ever, because Dave Roberts didn't know the rule. 990 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 2: I don't know if anybody knew this rule. Apparently this 991 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:07,319 Speaker 2: rule was supposed to be put in the play for 992 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,800 Speaker 2: twenty twenty and it got put on hold. It finally 993 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 2: actually became a Code of five rule at the beginning 994 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 2: of this year. So not yeah, not blaming any but 995 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 2: if not known this rule, but if you're a mager, 996 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 2: you should know every single rule. That's literally your job. 997 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 1: So let me ask you this, and I don't think 998 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,880 Speaker 1: you're gonna have the answer. If I'm up fifteen runs 999 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 1: in the last inning, can I put in? Can I 1000 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 1: put in luisqu Armory to pitch if I'm up fifteen 1001 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:26,840 Speaker 1: runs or you have to be losing. 1002 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:28,839 Speaker 2: Oh, I think it's just the game that's over six 1003 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,919 Speaker 2: runs of difference. Okay, Okay, I think that's the rule. Okay, gotcha. Yeah, 1004 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 2: because it was a bizarre odd thing didn't end up mattering, 1005 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 2: of course, no, But it's also it's so weird that 1006 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,840 Speaker 2: this Dodger team with this lineup, like you would think, like, 1007 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 2: we why can't we score five runs? I think there's 1008 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,319 Speaker 2: also just a world where the Dodgers think, I mean 1009 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,319 Speaker 2: it was what the middle ish bottom of the order, right, 1010 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 2: because yeah, I think they were also like get one 1011 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,400 Speaker 2: more if we have to score five and sad or 1012 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,759 Speaker 2: six or whatever, it's gonna be. Like I think that 1013 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 2: arm was more valuable to them in Game four, a 1014 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 2: game where they could still see themselves winning, where this 1015 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 2: one they're like, what smart guys, the Dodgers. I'm sure 1016 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 2: the numbers very smart people. So the win probability is 1017 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 2: we don't care. We probably the bigger difference in our 1018 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 2: went probably getting an extra inning I ever got tomorrow. 1019 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 2: But there's also a situation now where like Grey Keith 1020 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,279 Speaker 2: and Ron were losing their minds. They cause, like a 1021 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 2: Travesy said, it was like one of the most embarrassing 1022 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,279 Speaker 2: displays in baseball they could remember. I think I think 1023 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,400 Speaker 2: it is embarrassing for the game. It's definitely embarrassing, but 1024 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:21,839 Speaker 2: I don't think it was like as egregious. I think 1025 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 2: it's embarrassing for Dave Roberts. Yeah, sure he botched, and 1026 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:26,799 Speaker 2: he almost had to put one of his pitchers in 1027 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,960 Speaker 2: a legitimately like dangerous situation without warming up. That's that's 1028 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:30,880 Speaker 2: how you read an injury. 1029 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, the umpire sept and we're like, no, no, no, he's 1030 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,279 Speaker 1: gonna get his mess. 1031 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,239 Speaker 2: Fans like annoyed about that, And I think that's kind 1032 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 2: of heartless because you're gonna have You're gonna give a 1033 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 2: player who has nothing to do with the decision of 1034 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 2: consequence for his manager being an idiot. Like that's kind 1035 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 2: of screwed up. I was. It would have been more 1036 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,760 Speaker 2: embarrassing if Zach McKinstry pitched and there was a notice 1037 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:52,360 Speaker 2: from the league because someone with tweeted Jason Bennetti, Mike Petriello, 1038 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 2: Jeremy Frank really smart would have found this and been 1039 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 2: like that's not allowed. Jeremy Frank I think would have 1040 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 2: been all over that probably the tweet Q Devin think, yeah, 1041 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 2: one of those guys would be all over it. But 1042 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 2: in joy. Yeah, again, it didn't really end up mattering 1043 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 2: Met's win this game nine to four. Easy. Busy also 1044 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 2: not briefly mention Jeff McNeil after striking in the ninth 1045 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 2: inning of the ending that took twenty minutes to start 1046 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 2: in a five run lead. He did the Jeff McNeil thing. 1047 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:15,880 Speaker 2: He's not been hitting as well the last week as 1048 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,160 Speaker 2: he was the week before, so I guess you can 1049 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,840 Speaker 2: call it like a mini slump, struck out, screamed to 1050 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,920 Speaker 2: his helmet, kind of slammed it, slammed saw slam relatively 1051 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,399 Speaker 2: to Jeff mcneils passed. It was. It was a half 1052 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,920 Speaker 2: a slam. It was a really thorough place. And he 1053 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 2: was taken out of the game, yes or shortly after that, 1054 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,600 Speaker 2: and he did not come into the game in game four. 1055 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,359 Speaker 2: There were a lot of opportunities when the metsical views 1056 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 2: the left hand to pitch Heather, and Jeff McNeil was 1057 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:39,439 Speaker 2: not one of them. I do think this Buck's sending 1058 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 2: a little bit of a message, so too I don't 1059 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 2: know if there's any proof or truth to any of that. Also, 1060 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 2: a tough lefty on the mound, so there's a good 1061 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 2: chance McNeil in a little bit of half of a 1062 00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 2: slump win in the plane anyway, Yeah, especially because he 1063 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:50,960 Speaker 2: had all year. He hasn't hit left as well. That's 1064 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,120 Speaker 2: one thing he hasn't done, saying like three sixty against righties, 1065 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 2: against lefties, not so much. 1066 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:56,880 Speaker 1: But I do think this Buck sending a little bit 1067 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 1: of a message because in a nine to four game 1068 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:00,880 Speaker 1: where the Mets are winning and playing well, that was 1069 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 1: a little bit. 1070 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,359 Speaker 2: Of me before we Yes, good, good one right there. 1071 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,799 Speaker 2: I know I was around a baseball field this week 1072 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,840 Speaker 2: and I heard a lot of cliches. That's true, But 1073 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,840 Speaker 2: I think it's also just when you have a veteran 1074 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 2: manager like Buck, he's like I guarantee you, like Buck 1075 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:18,600 Speaker 2: wrote accountability on a whiteboard like February. They gotta be accountable. 1076 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 2: Everyone's gotta be accountable. And striking out there is not 1077 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 2: the time to have a tantrum. 1078 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 1: No, but good win for the Mets. That ended up 1079 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 1: being the first win of the series. Of course, as 1080 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,319 Speaker 1: we know, we split it. We'll briefly talk about Game 1081 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,400 Speaker 1: one and two. Again, there were seas fests, there were 1082 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,439 Speaker 1: poop fests. They were not particularly good. 1083 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,600 Speaker 2: See I purposely did not write poop fests ont of 1084 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,799 Speaker 2: these games because they weren't exactly poorly played games like 1085 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,200 Speaker 2: these were games that there were opportunities for the Mets 1086 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,280 Speaker 2: to have made them more competitive than they weren't possibly 1087 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,600 Speaker 2: even win them. Yeah, it was just the fact that 1088 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,399 Speaker 2: I think they kind of got bum rushed by playing 1089 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,719 Speaker 2: against a team that both pitches well and plays defense well. 1090 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 2: Well yeah, after the spender recall team has done both 1091 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,279 Speaker 2: those things in weeks that we've played Braves. Maybe that 1092 00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 2: was the. 1093 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,799 Speaker 1: Beginning of may not a long time Mike Petriello. It 1094 00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 1: even got him to write an article right after Game 1095 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:04,360 Speaker 1: two talking about how the Mets offense will struggle more 1096 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 1: against good teams, which I think everyone kind of knows. 1097 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,719 Speaker 1: But that was smart, smart Jay journo right there by 1098 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:11,879 Speaker 1: Mike Petrello, because that's as an easy clicker if you're 1099 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:12,239 Speaker 1: a Mets fan. 1100 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,400 Speaker 2: Mike petrel is a big content guy. He's one of 1101 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 2: the best out there right now, yeaking baseball content. Big 1102 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 2: Mike Petrello fans if he ever wants to come on 1103 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,080 Speaker 2: the podcast. We know he's a secret Mets fan, so 1104 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,400 Speaker 2: he can talk with us whatever you like. But he's 1105 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,800 Speaker 2: basically saying, like, yeah, when you play the Dodgers, they're smarter, 1106 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 2: they put guys in better positions. They're a better team 1107 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 2: that better pitchers with better fielding, it's gonna be harder 1108 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:30,799 Speaker 2: to get hits. And I felt like there were so 1109 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,719 Speaker 2: many plays in these first two games where you thought 1110 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,319 Speaker 2: you hit a fly ball in the gap or one 1111 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,319 Speaker 2: that would have dropped in against the Nationals or the 1112 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,520 Speaker 2: Giants or the Phillies, teams that are not very good 1113 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,280 Speaker 2: defensively this year, and Chris Taylor was just there, Cody 1114 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,920 Speaker 2: Bellinger was just there, Bets was there, Gavin Locks, Like, 1115 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,200 Speaker 2: these are guys who are good defenders at their positions 1116 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 2: all across the Diamond Trade. Turners one who actually, hilariously 1117 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 2: has not been that good defender this year, but he's 1118 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,279 Speaker 2: generally at least slightly by the league average in the past. 1119 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,439 Speaker 2: Jama Justin Turner, who can't really move anymore but still 1120 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,239 Speaker 2: has a gun for an arm. You just balls were 1121 00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 2: in play and they were making plays like this is 1122 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,239 Speaker 2: what good teams do, and you kind of we kind 1123 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:01,920 Speaker 2: of got used to playing those bad defensive teams. 1124 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,239 Speaker 1: And to be fair too, like Tony Gonsolin and Tyler 1125 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:05,320 Speaker 1: Anderson both. 1126 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,759 Speaker 2: Shut us down. They're both on different levels right now. 1127 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:09,960 Speaker 2: These guys, hilariously the two best pictures in the Dodgers 1128 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:11,680 Speaker 2: over the last month plus. 1129 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:13,959 Speaker 1: Tyler Anderson being a guy you were begging the Mets 1130 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:18,000 Speaker 1: to get this off. Listen to the offseason episodes, guys, 1131 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,359 Speaker 1: James was always saying Tyler Anderson. I'll admit I went 1132 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,360 Speaker 1: Tyler Anderson, Alex cop two guys who would be welcome 1133 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,160 Speaker 1: editions to the New York Mets right now, So keep that. 1134 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 2: I also talked about Decman has been one of the 1135 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,680 Speaker 2: best relievers. I talked about Aaron Louping overrated. True, I 1136 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:32,840 Speaker 2: was kind of money with my pitching up. Kakuchu has 1137 00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,240 Speaker 2: actually been really good. Yeah, you figure I've been capturing 1138 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:36,880 Speaker 2: these guys're the pitching Gary, I'm the hitting guys. How 1139 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,360 Speaker 2: it works and Yang. But again Game one, Mester just 1140 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,480 Speaker 2: shut down by Gonsolin. He's he is a good picture 1141 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 2: in the midst of a massive breakout. Didn't help Eln 1142 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,239 Speaker 2: Door slammed his finger in his hotel door before which 1143 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,760 Speaker 2: is ironic. Guess Steve compoint of that lin door finger 1144 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:50,480 Speaker 2: in a door door in the name if you guys 1145 00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,879 Speaker 2: got that one. Lol. That feels like literally a month ago. 1146 00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:54,839 Speaker 2: Yeah right, this has been the long All these four 1147 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 2: games series are always so incredibly ten o'clock. They were 1148 00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,080 Speaker 2: just so happened that most of these days and Mets 1149 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:00,840 Speaker 2: we like the only ten o'clock game. So even like 1150 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,480 Speaker 2: staying up for these games, I was like, okay, here 1151 00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,640 Speaker 2: we go almost ready. Yeah, this series felt like forever ago, 1152 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:10,080 Speaker 2: and that Lindor thing that along with the Maxers are 1153 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,319 Speaker 2: getting bit by the dog. There was a time where 1154 00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,560 Speaker 2: I was like, what is happened? Two right hands on 1155 00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,040 Speaker 2: the Mets got screwed up? Yeah luckily, I mean we're 1156 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:19,799 Speaker 2: all good. It sounds like, but yeah, that's just didn't 1157 00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,680 Speaker 2: really hit. Got a few off of what bruisear, couple 1158 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,279 Speaker 2: good hit balls, two hits off Tony Gonsolin, one hit 1159 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,440 Speaker 2: offf bruis Ar. Rather all three hits that were scattered 1160 00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:29,040 Speaker 2: in this game. No base runners in the eighth or 1161 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,880 Speaker 2: ninth inning. This is a traveling out west after a 1162 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,400 Speaker 2: game the day before. Seems like they were just completely 1163 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,839 Speaker 2: a sleep henceive snoozefest and just gota brief to talk 1164 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,320 Speaker 2: about Taiwan because he this was one of the hilarious, 1165 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,239 Speaker 2: most hilarious stats lines I've seen in a while. Five 1166 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,280 Speaker 2: and two thirds innings, pitch only give up two earned 1167 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:47,040 Speaker 2: sixteen hard hit balls, two balls and play the whole 1168 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,239 Speaker 2: game off Taiwan under ninety miles an hour. Scary shit, 1169 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,719 Speaker 2: hard hit merchant, Hard hit merchant. You showed me his 1170 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,480 Speaker 2: Baseball Savant page. You're like, look at this. It was 1171 00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,839 Speaker 2: all red with one bar of white and one bar 1172 00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:00,680 Speaker 2: of blue. I've never seen anything like that does and 1173 00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:02,319 Speaker 2: being the balls in play in that game. If you 1174 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,680 Speaker 2: saw that, you would have said ten runs. And crazily, 1175 00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,480 Speaker 2: he didn't give up any runs before the lineup flipped 1176 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,480 Speaker 2: for a third time, which is that This is the 1177 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,000 Speaker 2: thing I'm just saying about Tyler Walker for months now, 1178 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,400 Speaker 2: basically since he came to the team last year. No 1179 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,359 Speaker 2: runs were the first four innings, and he got through 1180 00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,799 Speaker 2: the beginning of the fifth, and then once Movie Betts 1181 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:21,479 Speaker 2: came up, he had an RBI and then Justin Turner, 1182 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:22,680 Speaker 2: how were the next hitning, And that's how he gave 1183 00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,200 Speaker 2: his two runs the third time around the order. If 1184 00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,000 Speaker 2: the Mets had enough pitching depth right now and they 1185 00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:27,879 Speaker 2: could commit to Tylan Walker being a three to four 1186 00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,000 Speaker 2: inning guy, basically a sixty pitch guy who only sees 1187 00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:32,480 Speaker 2: orders twice, he'd be incredibly effective. He's so good the 1188 00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,000 Speaker 2: first couple of times for the order. They were talking 1189 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,279 Speaker 2: about that on the broadcast too. That is Ops just 1190 00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:40,200 Speaker 2: the team. Ops goes crazy high, like almost nine hundred 1191 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,120 Speaker 2: third time through the first two times cash money and 1192 00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,799 Speaker 2: last Taiwan update, he again forcing fast ball split change. 1193 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,560 Speaker 2: Split change was really good. It was money diving out 1194 00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:50,960 Speaker 2: of the bomb of zone enough even as a lot 1195 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:52,920 Speaker 2: of these balls were hit hard. That was the pitch 1196 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:54,960 Speaker 2: getting whiffs. His only pitch with multiple whiffs, and it 1197 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:56,879 Speaker 2: had like five, six, seven or eight. I can't remember 1198 00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,160 Speaker 2: the number right now, but that pitch looked really good 1199 00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,160 Speaker 2: playing off of four. That sits ninety four ninety five 1200 00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:05,440 Speaker 2: ish touches ninety six. Sometimes that sounds like a really 1201 00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,480 Speaker 2: good repertoire for to the four inning guy. Oh definitely, 1202 00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:12,200 Speaker 2: I think Taiwan we'll reconsider when some guys come back. 1203 00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,120 Speaker 2: Maybe what he's doing right now though, is very important, 1204 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:16,560 Speaker 2: only two and runs in five to two thirds innings. 1205 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,440 Speaker 2: He did touch a six inning is was important for 1206 00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,120 Speaker 2: the rest of the series. If the Mets would have 1207 00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:21,400 Speaker 2: taken him out of early, I don't know if they 1208 00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:22,799 Speaker 2: would have won this game, and it might have cost 1209 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,160 Speaker 2: them one of the later games. So everything building on 1210 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,440 Speaker 2: top of each other still worked out. But just crazy 1211 00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,200 Speaker 2: that there were only two balls and play the whole 1212 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:32,719 Speaker 2: game on nine hours like you got a roller coaster. 1213 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,560 Speaker 2: I hit the ball ninety miles. Now that there's only 1214 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,120 Speaker 2: two guys that hit the ball about as hard as me, 1215 00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,160 Speaker 2: which is crazy. That was it for that game. They 1216 00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,759 Speaker 2: lost really well, Doc just a really good really a 1217 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:44,399 Speaker 2: really good team. 1218 00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,120 Speaker 1: And after watching that game, and we mentioned it briefly 1219 00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,120 Speaker 1: a little bit earlier too, I watched it went Man, 1220 00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,319 Speaker 1: They're just good. They're just a really good team, and 1221 00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,920 Speaker 1: they probably are better than us, let's be honest. 1222 00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,680 Speaker 2: For sure, if you like on paper, yeah, but I 1223 00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,040 Speaker 2: mean power rankings. I think there's no argument for the 1224 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,680 Speaker 2: Mets higher win percentage because we know that matters and 1225 00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:03,600 Speaker 2: definitely has nothing to do with more games we can played, 1226 00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,080 Speaker 2: just beat their two arguably most talented pitchers, and back 1227 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,440 Speaker 2: to back games with David Peterson and Trevor Williams on 1228 00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,040 Speaker 2: the mound for us, those are our back end guys. 1229 00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:13,480 Speaker 2: Those are our villains for injuries. I mean donads Medina 1230 00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,200 Speaker 2: in the save opportunity, because why not because form Pittsburgh Pirates. Well, 1231 00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:17,719 Speaker 2: I of course, then just got run through Game two 1232 00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:19,520 Speaker 2: real quickly here because I was having too much fun 1233 00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:23,000 Speaker 2: Midgres newsfest. Tyler Anderson like shit, that stinks to throw 1234 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:24,960 Speaker 2: a change ups. You couldn't even get close to touching them. 1235 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:26,719 Speaker 2: He's had good success against the Mets too in the past. 1236 00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,040 Speaker 2: Remember the Pirates game. Yeah, he's been great against the Mets. 1237 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:30,759 Speaker 2: I was like, these are like an eight inch shot 1238 00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,040 Speaker 2: out or something something like that. Has also hit a 1239 00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:34,680 Speaker 2: home run against the Mets too, Like, I think he's 1240 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:36,719 Speaker 2: hundred percent of home run against the Mets last year. 1241 00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:38,440 Speaker 2: I think he just owned with the Mets. Yeah. I 1242 00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,319 Speaker 2: think it's just that simple, all right, Maybe it is, 1243 00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,360 Speaker 2: But also bassetting this one wasn't the sharpest fell victims 1244 00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:44,720 Speaker 2: of the home run ball and one of the easiest 1245 00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:46,760 Speaker 2: place hit home runs in baseball. Gave won the Bellinger 1246 00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:48,960 Speaker 2: one to McKinstry. And when you give him home runs 1247 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:50,680 Speaker 2: to those two guys in this lineup, you just realize 1248 00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,000 Speaker 2: how deep this roster is. I mentioned that in the Dodgers' 1249 00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:56,319 Speaker 2: preview last week. Just there's no second to breathe when 1250 00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,279 Speaker 2: Zach McKinstry's hitting home run against here with the bomb 1251 00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,200 Speaker 2: of the oiler. Lineup is apps loaded. It is a 1252 00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,839 Speaker 2: long lineup, and it feels like every time you're he's 1253 00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:07,640 Speaker 2: up again, He's here again house because once in a while, 1254 00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:09,239 Speaker 2: when you're seventy and nine hitters, draw a walk or 1255 00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,160 Speaker 2: get the Bay's hit and he gets movie bets up 1256 00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:15,160 Speaker 2: to the play a batter, sooner they're they're unbelievable. Alonso 1257 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:18,640 Speaker 2: got the home run, which is nice, well come up, 1258 00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:20,520 Speaker 2: and then the Dodgers got some runs off of Joey 1259 00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,080 Speaker 2: and to go sick. I mean they just they just 1260 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:23,840 Speaker 2: beat us. Yeah, you weren' gonna win this. This is 1261 00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:25,720 Speaker 2: when everyone thought the sky was falling. Well, I shouldn't 1262 00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,240 Speaker 2: say everyone, some people. Some people thought the sky was falling. 1263 00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,200 Speaker 2: Most people, at least for the first time, I felt 1264 00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,480 Speaker 2: a good a while in the media were not like that. 1265 00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:36,240 Speaker 2: They were like, this is chill, yeah, good prominent Mets 1266 00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,759 Speaker 2: fans for not just jumping off the roof and saying 1267 00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,000 Speaker 2: the season's over. We didn't check Salakata's. We didn't check 1268 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:44,600 Speaker 2: Salacata because why would you follow him? He probably deleted anyway, probably, Uh, 1269 00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:47,200 Speaker 2: we don't follow Frank, which he I mean, he was 1270 00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,920 Speaker 2: freaking out, but you guys can't. That's a Frank Fleming. Seriously, 1271 00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:51,640 Speaker 2: that's a shtick. We don't know what it is. It's 1272 00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,120 Speaker 2: a shtick that's been purported. But I do think that's 1273 00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,120 Speaker 2: how he really feels. Oh yeah, I don't. Yeah, I 1274 00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:59,359 Speaker 2: don't think. I think he's unfortunately a miserable person. Yeah, 1275 00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,400 Speaker 2: but there is a subsect of Mets fans who was 1276 00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,440 Speaker 2: completely lockstep with Frank Fleming. Yeah, Like, I'm sure he's 1277 00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,360 Speaker 2: a nice guy. It's kind of like in the like 1278 00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,840 Speaker 2: like European nations, where there's like seven political parties that 1279 00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:10,279 Speaker 2: get votes, and then why is it being like a 1280 00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:13,080 Speaker 2: plurality winner, Like there is that one faction of like 1281 00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:16,240 Speaker 2: those crazy like Germany is the Pirate Party? Just crazy 1282 00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,240 Speaker 2: shit like that. You'll see that one subsection of crazy 1283 00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:19,759 Speaker 2: to get like six percent of the vote. And if 1284 00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:21,480 Speaker 2: you were like splitting up the Mets fan base, like 1285 00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,799 Speaker 2: seeing what percent of vote, like the guy's got, Frank 1286 00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,480 Speaker 2: Clemming would get a percentage of him's content. He is content, 1287 00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,120 Speaker 2: and but there are Mets fans I think like that, 1288 00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,040 Speaker 2: and they're we're not gonna we can't get rid of 1289 00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:31,680 Speaker 2: him yet. But it was nice to see a lot 1290 00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,040 Speaker 2: of people sp calm. Some people were not, some people 1291 00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,200 Speaker 2: thought it was dead. Got some twitter dms. You guys 1292 00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,880 Speaker 2: know who you are? Who what can the Mets do? 1293 00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:40,759 Speaker 2: They get to get on pace with the Dodgers, like 1294 00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:42,160 Speaker 2: who were traded for? I was like, you guys, gotta 1295 00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,359 Speaker 2: watch the next couple of games, and to which we won. Yeah, 1296 00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:45,839 Speaker 2: we got right on pace with the Dodgers. In fact, 1297 00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:47,200 Speaker 2: we're ahead of the pace of the Dodgers. 1298 00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,560 Speaker 1: Yet we have a higher winning percentage, which means we're 1299 00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,799 Speaker 1: the better team, because that's never failed anyone. Right now, 1300 00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,080 Speaker 1: right now, at this exact lement, we are the best 1301 00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:58,040 Speaker 1: team in the National League, something that I don't think 1302 00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,120 Speaker 1: a lot of people thought would happen this late in 1303 00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:01,600 Speaker 1: the season for the Mets. I would think a lot 1304 00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:03,680 Speaker 1: of people would say this after the Dodgers series, losing 1305 00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,840 Speaker 1: the first two. Colin Coward himself, what a fucking idiot 1306 00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:07,360 Speaker 1: that guy is. 1307 00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:08,879 Speaker 2: Let me roast him for a second. I mean, I'm 1308 00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:10,680 Speaker 2: not gonna call anybody who has a level of success 1309 00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:12,960 Speaker 2: that Colin Coward has an idiot. Colin Gowhard talks to 1310 00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,040 Speaker 2: himself about sports four hours a day and gets paid 1311 00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,360 Speaker 2: millions of dollars. He is success. That guy's brilliant. No, 1312 00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:19,080 Speaker 2: he's successful. I don't want to hear what he has 1313 00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,960 Speaker 2: to say about baseball. He's a baseball idiot for sure. Yeah, 1314 00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,440 Speaker 2: he tweeted out after they won Game two. Mets Twitter 1315 00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,240 Speaker 2: was getting a little out of control. This Dodger series 1316 00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,879 Speaker 2: was needed to restore some sanity. I'm sure Mets fans 1317 00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,480 Speaker 2: will handle it with grease and humility, to which I go, yep, 1318 00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,920 Speaker 2: big big middle finger right to you, sit and twist 1319 00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,759 Speaker 2: whatever you want to say. And this is a new 1320 00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:40,960 Speaker 2: copy pasta that I think. I think every time the 1321 00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,200 Speaker 2: Dodgers lose or to the Mets or whatever it's gonna be, 1322 00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:44,920 Speaker 2: I think this is the copy past Oh, if the 1323 00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,719 Speaker 2: Dodgers lose the next game they play, I'm gonna tweet that. Yeah, 1324 00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:49,839 Speaker 2: Mets Twitter is getting a little out of control. Mark 1325 00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:53,800 Speaker 2: sent to me. Yeah, I'm gonna book now because honestly, 1326 00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,200 Speaker 2: we'll leave it in the description somewhere in this episode, 1327 00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,000 Speaker 2: so you guys can also see it. I quote tweeted 1328 00:50:58,040 --> 00:50:59,520 Speaker 2: on my person I might say like Fox Sports was 1329 00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:03,479 Speaker 2: getting a little control this this ESPN series, the NBA 1330 00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,320 Speaker 2: Final Series would needs to restore some sanity. That's funny, 1331 00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,160 Speaker 2: that's funny. That's funny. Great, great ending to a series 1332 00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,120 Speaker 2: that could have gone really badly. Shame for the Dodgers. 1333 00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,960 Speaker 2: Would they go this week two and five? They could 1334 00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,279 Speaker 2: have beat the Pirates, could bet the Pirates or the Mets, 1335 00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,279 Speaker 2: and and with the their fan base was described as 1336 00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,640 Speaker 2: two worst teams in the NL. Yeah. I mean again, 1337 00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:22,120 Speaker 2: that's only hot early. We're only a third of the 1338 00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:23,800 Speaker 2: way through the season. We've only played more than the 1339 00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:25,600 Speaker 2: amount of games that Dodgers played in the regular season. 1340 00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:30,359 Speaker 2: They won a championship. What percentage World Series? World Series? 1341 00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:32,399 Speaker 2: That happens more than most teams. They have as much 1342 00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:36,360 Speaker 2: percentage of the achies have rings exactly. Don't tell Dodgers 1343 00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,600 Speaker 2: found that? Oh no, I mean, imagine if they won 1344 00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,239 Speaker 2: the World Series against the Astros too, each tough one 1345 00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:42,680 Speaker 2: that was close, those back and forth series. He also 1346 00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:44,640 Speaker 2: got bombarded by the Red Sox the year after that. 1347 00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:46,680 Speaker 2: They just just sounds like just sounds like a team 1348 00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:48,600 Speaker 2: that really can't step up to the play when it counts. No, 1349 00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:50,399 Speaker 2: I mean, hey, the Dodgers are a team that usually 1350 00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:52,320 Speaker 2: do very good in the regular season against the bad teams, 1351 00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,360 Speaker 2: so once the going gets tough, they seem to fall apart. 1352 00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,960 Speaker 2: You know that coming into this series, they had played 1353 00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,360 Speaker 2: majority under five hundred teams. The Mets were one of 1354 00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:02,160 Speaker 2: the first legitimate good teams that they've played all year, 1355 00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,279 Speaker 2: And I feel like those narratives only build against like 1356 00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:06,319 Speaker 2: the Mets. Though, Yeah, of course, but this is this 1357 00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,640 Speaker 2: is fun because now it builds against the Dodgers. They've 1358 00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:10,319 Speaker 2: placed a good team to play a good team at 1359 00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:13,080 Speaker 2: home against Tremor Williams, David Peterson. They split. But yeah, 1360 00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:14,560 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't want to keep talking about the 1361 00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,080 Speaker 2: Dodgers because I'm sure he's gonna come back to Bias 1362 00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,200 Speaker 2: and the oh without it down terrible. It's gonna be 1363 00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:20,800 Speaker 2: awful when it's the next time we played them and 1364 00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,640 Speaker 2: they take the first game and we're like, shit, damn it, 1365 00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:25,960 Speaker 2: we did it to ourselves. But we're feeling good. We're 1366 00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:26,680 Speaker 2: feeling great. 1367 00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,319 Speaker 1: The Messas had a crazy, crazy win of Game four 1368 00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,879 Speaker 1: to split the series, and now we head to San 1369 00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:35,279 Speaker 1: Diego to play those Padres who just recently cut Robinson Cano. 1370 00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:37,799 Speaker 1: So it seems that maybe they're not as stupid as 1371 00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:39,520 Speaker 1: we once thought because they were playing that guy every 1372 00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:41,000 Speaker 1: day for a while, which was crazy. 1373 00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:43,160 Speaker 2: Still a pen and pensive organization, though for sure not 1374 00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,600 Speaker 2: one of the smart ones. But they they're coming up 1375 00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,200 Speaker 2: three straight wins against the Browers. His team is good. 1376 00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,480 Speaker 2: They're not great, They're just still not to be trifled with. 1377 00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:52,840 Speaker 2: And it's gonna be another rock fight of the series 1378 00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:53,279 Speaker 2: to get through. 1379 00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:55,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I really do think, like we talked about 1380 00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,040 Speaker 1: worst case scenario, right we said three and seven was 1381 00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:57,680 Speaker 1: our worst case. 1382 00:52:57,840 --> 00:52:59,560 Speaker 2: We got two right now. Yes, and I really do 1383 00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:01,960 Speaker 2: think we can take two from the Padres without batting it. 1384 00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:03,640 Speaker 2: And the Angels have lost eleven games in a row. Yeah, 1385 00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:06,680 Speaker 2: they're really really right now. But this Padres series is 1386 00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:09,480 Speaker 2: gonna start immediately. We're facing three Vergus starting pictures, no 1387 00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:11,359 Speaker 2: off day again. The Mets are likely on the way 1388 00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,120 Speaker 2: to San Diego right now is the time we're recording this. 1389 00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:14,520 Speaker 2: They'll be there by the time you guys listen to this. 1390 00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:17,280 Speaker 2: Definitely we were arguing before and maybe you guys tweets 1391 00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,720 Speaker 2: this do you guys think the Dodgers fly or bust 1392 00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:21,520 Speaker 2: to San Diego from LA and I think it has 1393 00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:23,120 Speaker 2: to be a fly. I think so too. But that's 1394 00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,600 Speaker 2: like similar distance between like Philadelphia, New York and the 1395 00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:27,919 Speaker 2: Mets usually take a bus to Philly. Yeah, but it's 1396 00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,799 Speaker 2: just the traffic's just different. The traffic between New York 1397 00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:33,120 Speaker 2: and Philadelphi is also usually not good. The park, the 1398 00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:34,840 Speaker 2: turn parks are right, it's usually all right, But you 1399 00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,040 Speaker 2: gotta take a bus out of New York. Think about 1400 00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,520 Speaker 2: think about getting from Queens, like just getting getting a 1401 00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:43,840 Speaker 2: bus across the George Washington Bridge. All right, Yes, that's insane. 1402 00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:45,640 Speaker 2: It's in the sane thing to think about. And a 1403 00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:47,880 Speaker 2: Sunday evening, you think the traffic on the PCA the 1404 00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:49,440 Speaker 2: four or five thing is really that bad? Oh no, 1405 00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:51,279 Speaker 2: I'm sure Steve Comen could close down the tunnel to 1406 00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,000 Speaker 2: get the Mets to go through or whatever it's got 1407 00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:55,640 Speaker 2: to be so that there's no traffic. Pacifica's Highway's gorgeous. 1408 00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:57,239 Speaker 2: Take a ride with the guys after a big win, 1409 00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:00,120 Speaker 2: but big pitching matchups in this series. Game one, one, 1410 00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:03,680 Speaker 2: Monday Night, Carls Grasso versus Blake Snell. Snell's freshly off 1411 00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:05,680 Speaker 2: the il. He is doing the Blake Snell thing where 1412 00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:07,879 Speaker 2: he's good and not good at the same time. Look 1413 00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:09,839 Speaker 2: for us to stack this lineup with Riotyes, because Blake 1414 00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:12,799 Speaker 2: Snell is significantly better against lefties than Riothy's. Because he 1415 00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,840 Speaker 2: really just only has a resort of throwing fastballs and sliders. 1416 00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:17,399 Speaker 2: He's starting to mix a change up back and again 1417 00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:19,640 Speaker 2: after he removed it from his repertoire last year, because 1418 00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:21,040 Speaker 2: I pitched a comic Jacky and Hide for him and 1419 00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:22,799 Speaker 2: goes back and forth. But gonna be interesting to see 1420 00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:24,239 Speaker 2: what we can do against him. A very patient team. 1421 00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:25,520 Speaker 2: I feel like we'll be able to get to him. 1422 00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:30,000 Speaker 2: Tuesday night Taiwan Walker versus you Darvish. You Darvish habitually 1423 00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:31,360 Speaker 2: just destroys the Mets. 1424 00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:34,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't matter how much he's struggling, he will 1425 00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:34,600 Speaker 1: figure it out. 1426 00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:36,760 Speaker 2: For this game, get right game for you, Darvish as usual. 1427 00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,759 Speaker 2: And then Wednesday in another night game which we're gonna 1428 00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,560 Speaker 2: be grinding and get you guys a podcasts after that one, 1429 00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:44,960 Speaker 2: Chris Bassi or shan and Iya in a game of 1430 00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:47,440 Speaker 2: two two wiley vets who came from the Oaklands in 1431 00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:49,000 Speaker 2: the same offseason. It's gonna be a good, good day 1432 00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:51,399 Speaker 2: for them. I'm sure. Yeah, definitely. Uh. Fun fact about 1433 00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:54,440 Speaker 2: the Padres twenty third in shifts this year. I like 1434 00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:55,719 Speaker 2: that for a team like the Mets, it puts the 1435 00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:57,200 Speaker 2: ball and play. Mets put the ball in play. 1436 00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,400 Speaker 1: We saw that whole article about teams not playing the 1437 00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:02,120 Speaker 1: Mets smart. Seems like the Padres don't really play that smart. 1438 00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,040 Speaker 2: Even if a team like the Padres, who I think 1439 00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:08,160 Speaker 2: is modernizing relatively two years past, they're great at prospects, 1440 00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:10,759 Speaker 2: they're great at prospects, and they're great acquiring ready made 1441 00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:12,839 Speaker 2: starting pitchers. Like they just pulled as many starting pitcher 1442 00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:14,359 Speaker 2: as they could. We're already good, or like we gotta 1443 00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,239 Speaker 2: get your good, which is why they're good right now. Yeah, 1444 00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:18,760 Speaker 2: and they hired forgot his first name. I think rubyin Diebla, 1445 00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:20,359 Speaker 2: who is a pitching coach in Cleveland for a long 1446 00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,959 Speaker 2: time who people have had rave rave rave reviews about. 1447 00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,040 Speaker 2: And the Guardians we know are not the pending pencil team. 1448 00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:27,400 Speaker 2: The team uses ample amounts of data. They also have 1449 00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:30,120 Speaker 2: many Machado who's playing like an MVP. Yea was incredible. 1450 00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:33,000 Speaker 2: Jae Cronwort's annoying as shit. Who else even good in 1451 00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:34,440 Speaker 2: that right? Trent Grishams looks terrible. 1452 00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure Eric Cosm will be annoying, just because that's 1453 00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:38,040 Speaker 1: that's who he is. 1454 00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:40,359 Speaker 2: Jerks and profile like is actually playing well. He has 1455 00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:42,680 Speaker 2: the play discipline, He's actually finally married it with power. 1456 00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:44,759 Speaker 2: His bower rate, it's significantly higher than before in his 1457 00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:45,920 Speaker 2: career and is at a point where it might be 1458 00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:48,680 Speaker 2: kind of stable. He looks good. Taylor Rodgers has been struggling, 1459 00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:50,120 Speaker 2: but I do think he is still really good. Is 1460 00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:53,440 Speaker 2: their bullpen good? Kind of? I mean Luis Garcia, their 1461 00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:56,320 Speaker 2: seventh man, is quite good. Nick Martinez is now pitching 1462 00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:58,800 Speaker 2: in a hybrid role out of the rotation and the bullpen. 1463 00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,040 Speaker 2: He has looked decent over all. We're missing Mackenzie Gore 1464 00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:02,600 Speaker 2: was a world be there. That's awesome. Thank god were 1465 00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:04,719 Speaker 2: missing him. He looks incredible right now. But otherwise in 1466 00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:06,440 Speaker 2: that bullpens they still Stammond who. I don't know if 1467 00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:08,200 Speaker 2: Craig Stamond's any good. I feel like the Mets always 1468 00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:10,560 Speaker 2: hit Craigs. Here's Johnson might still be there. There was 1469 00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:12,759 Speaker 2: lost sliders. Yeah, like the team they've they have a 1470 00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:14,600 Speaker 2: collection of good players, they don't always put them in 1471 00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:16,799 Speaker 2: the best opportunities to succeed. I think the Mets are 1472 00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:19,080 Speaker 2: a better team than the Padres. That's a better run team. 1473 00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,480 Speaker 2: Should win the series, but it's going to be close. 1474 00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:22,880 Speaker 2: It was close last year against him, even though we 1475 00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:24,640 Speaker 2: took the games from them, and you could argue them 1476 00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:26,680 Speaker 2: as kind of might have pitching this vantage in every game. 1477 00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,879 Speaker 2: Not really strong between Carrasco, Snell, Basset and I. Those 1478 00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:31,759 Speaker 2: are kind of close, especially Basset and I. You could 1479 00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:33,279 Speaker 2: argue Chris bass is probably better than Sean ma Andai 1480 00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:37,200 Speaker 2: has really good this year, but they're throwing three starting 1481 00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:40,839 Speaker 2: pitchers out there with some legit pedigree, and it's let's 1482 00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:42,719 Speaker 2: play play some baseball. Also nice that we miss Joe 1483 00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:44,759 Speaker 2: Musgrove because he's sick. Yeah, he's sick. He hasn't as 1484 00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:46,040 Speaker 2: good this year he was last year. He was also 1485 00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:47,520 Speaker 2: still good, but the fasketball has not been as good. 1486 00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:49,719 Speaker 2: But yeah, probably we're arguably missing the Padricks two best 1487 00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:52,480 Speaker 2: starting pitchers. Okay, I'm cool with that. Go out win 1488 00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:54,759 Speaker 2: another series like the Mets have done all year long. 1489 00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,239 Speaker 2: And Taylor Rodgers, I thinks might have pitched three days 1490 00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:58,839 Speaker 2: in a row for these guys, or maybe at least 1491 00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,080 Speaker 2: the last two, because he definitely save. It may be 1492 00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:02,920 Speaker 2: one or another. He definitely pitched on Sunday, and he 1493 00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:05,319 Speaker 2: blew another save this weekend. I remember because I bet 1494 00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:07,120 Speaker 2: them and I was mad. I hadn't been fancy. No, 1495 00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,439 Speaker 2: actually I bet he blew a saved last Saturday against 1496 00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:10,839 Speaker 2: the pirates. I bet them, and I was mad. Man. 1497 00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:13,520 Speaker 2: The pirates have really been killing you. Killing the pirates 1498 00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:15,160 Speaker 2: have caused me a couple of bets in the last week. 1499 00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,240 Speaker 2: It was very annoying. How great Hot Hot half finished 1500 00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,120 Speaker 2: the weekend Hot Finish Half Finish just have finished. 1501 00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:21,200 Speaker 1: The boys bought tickets to the Rangers game five as well, 1502 00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:23,040 Speaker 1: so if you're gonna be at that game, yeah, we 1503 00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:23,920 Speaker 1: will be this up. 1504 00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:26,360 Speaker 2: We will be indulging in some adult beverages as well. 1505 00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:28,800 Speaker 2: We're recording another podcast before then. Yeah, oh yeah we are. 1506 00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:30,760 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I forgot all right, we'll talk about that 1507 00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:32,320 Speaker 2: in the next one too. We'll remind you guys. 1508 00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:34,840 Speaker 1: Thank you so much though for listening to this episode here. 1509 00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,600 Speaker 1: Episode number ninety gave the met Stuff podcast percent one hundred, 1510 00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:39,480 Speaker 1: getting close to one hundred maybe some big news coming 1511 00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:40,040 Speaker 1: out one hundred. 1512 00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:40,760 Speaker 2: Who knows that. 1513 00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep teasing it until it comes out. We're 1514 00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,760 Speaker 1: so close, but yeah, present by the seven line. 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