1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: Show Final Hour, Major breaking News Thursday. Here, as we 4 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: are trying to keep you apprized of everything that is 5 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:19,479 Speaker 1: going on. We are joined now by Senator Ran Paul 6 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: of Kentucky, recently reelected for a new six year term. 7 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: We've got a lot to discuss with him, but I 8 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: want to hit a couple of news stories for those 9 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: of you who may have just gotten in your car. 10 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 1: They have uncovered more classified documents that Joe Biden was 11 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 1: mishandling inside of his garage and also his Wilmington, Delaware 12 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: area home. As a result, in the last forty five 13 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: minutes or so, Merritt Garland has announced the Attorney General 14 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: of the United States a new special counsel who will 15 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: investigate Joe Biden's handling of classified documents. Robert Herr is 16 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: that individual. Earlier, Joe Biden had a press conference. I 17 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: want to play for those of you who have not heard, 18 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: and let Senator Rampaul react to this. Peter Doocey asked 19 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: Joe Biden how he could be so reckless as to 20 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: be saving storing classified documents in his garage. Here is 21 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: what that sounded like, my material next year, corvette. What 22 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: were you thinking, Lenny. We're gonna get a chance to 23 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: speak on all this, God Williams soon. But I said 24 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: earlier this week people, And by the way, my corvette's 25 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: in the locked garage. Okay, so it's not like you're 26 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: sitting out in the street. But anyway, yes, as well 27 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,199 Speaker 1: as my corvette. But as I said earlier this week, 28 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: people know I take classified documents and classified materials seriously. Okay, 29 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: So Senator ram Paul, I don't know if you'd heard 30 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 1: that clip yet. I'm sure you're running around busy. But 31 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: when you hear that, your reaction is what I think. 32 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: People don't like hypocracy. I don't like it. American people 33 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: don't like it. They don't like one standard for one 34 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: fellow and another for Biden. The Trump arrangement syndrome got 35 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: them all high up. They were ready to lynch him 36 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: and put him in jail and lock him up forever 37 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: because he mishandled classified information. It'll be interesting to see 38 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: if we get the same I'm actually the opinion that 39 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 1: rather than treat them both as if they need to 40 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 1: go to prison. I think they need to be both 41 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: treated the same. But what we should treat them as 42 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 1: is that we've got a real problem with overclassifying everything. 43 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: I mean, the menu for the White House I think 44 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: is classified. So I mean there's a lot of problems 45 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: with everything being classified. Right now, I'm investigating the origins 46 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 1: of the COVID virus and there's information it's classified that 47 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: basically goes a long way towards proving or putting forth 48 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 1: the hypothesis that this came from the lab. And yet 49 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: I'm not allowed to say it because it's classified. Half 50 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 1: of it's been printed already in books. But I think 51 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: we have a problem on our hands of overclassifying things. 52 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 1: So I'm not in the position of saying, oh, yeah, 53 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: we need to throw the book at Biden. We probably 54 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:57,959 Speaker 1: need to not throw the book at either one of them, 55 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: and look at the problem the stamp and classified on everything. 56 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: The intelligence community I think does this because they're largely 57 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: protecting their turf. And this isn't like the secrets to 58 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: the nuclear bomb. You know, they're like, oh, Trump as 59 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: a top secret. Well, the thing is is, do you 60 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: think somebody at the White House is saying, mister President, 61 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 1: this is the technical diagrams of hell we make a 62 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: ducal weapon. Oh, by the way, here, just keep a copy. 63 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: You know, it's kind of ridiculous. None of it is 64 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: that and a lot of the information we have to 65 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 1: figure out ways to get it to the American public 66 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: of giving an example, recently, the Republican Minority put out 67 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: an unclassified version of a classified document on the origins 68 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: of the COVID virus. Well, they went to painstaking detail 69 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: to go ahead and tell us within the classified document 70 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: by calling it a hypothesis. A hypothesis exists that so 71 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: and so made a virus that was trying to experiment 72 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: on a vaccine that probably leaked in November of twenty nineteen. 73 00:03:55,960 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: And so, really this is a problem with overclassification. But ultimately, 74 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: people are very angry and right to be upset about 75 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: two standards of justice, and I think people ought to 76 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: be treated the same, whether you're a Republican or a Democrat. 77 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: Senator Paul, do you think that this could affect I know, 78 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: I'm asking to just looking to the crystal ball here 79 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: of politics, and there's a lot that's still going to 80 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,799 Speaker 1: be coming out, But do you think that the appointment 81 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: of a special counsel today or the announcement of that 82 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: appointment could affect will affect Joe Biden's decisions you run 83 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 1: or not run in twenty twenty four. I don't know 84 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: if it does. Actually, I think the one thing that 85 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: will be for certain is we'll spend a ton of 86 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: money trying to prosecute Trump over classified documents. Now we're 87 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: going to spend tens of millions more on Biden. And 88 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 1: in the end, because they know they have both of 89 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: them on this and both of them are guilty of 90 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: probably not obeying the letter of the law, both will 91 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: be dismissed. But I predict ten to twenty million dollars 92 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: worth of expendusers to the taxpayer. They'll investigate it and 93 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: then they'll say, well, gosh, if we can Biden, we're 94 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: gonna have to if we convict Trump, apps to convict Biden, 95 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 1: so let's not convict you to one. And really I 96 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: think they'll both be reprimanded. That will it affect the election? 97 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 1: I think hypocrisy is never a good thing, and it 98 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 1: makes him look a little bit like, oh well, yeah, 99 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: I had them walked up. You know, there were the 100 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: nuclear secrets, but I had him walked up with my corvette, 101 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: so they must be Okay, no one's ever stolen my corvette. 102 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 1: But you know, when Trump made the same argument that 103 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 1: his documents were locked in a secure room, they completely 104 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: lampooned it. And we'll see if you think any of 105 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 1: the nightly comics will be lampooning Biden for saying, oh, yeah, 106 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: the nuclear secrets are locked up with my corvette, but 107 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: they're safe. What do you think about the FBI needing 108 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: to be called in tomorrow lago to conduct a raid. 109 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: And it appears that essentially Joe Biden and his employees 110 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 1: and associates were allowed to conduct their own search over 111 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: these documents for months, basically based on the timeline laid 112 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 1: out by Attorney General Mayor Garland. November two was the 113 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 1: initial discovery. They made an additional document discovery on December twentieth, 114 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 1: an additional one on January eleven. That's over two months 115 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: where the Biden team would have had access to his 116 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 1: documents theoretically without the FBI involved. Once again, independence the 117 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: American people, they don't like to see a double standard, 118 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: and this is why it's really important that the Conservatives 119 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: who held out initially against Kevin McCarthy did get a committee. 120 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 1: There's going to be a special committee on the optanization 121 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: of government. And so when the FBI is able to 122 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: move forward and you know, do the purp walk for 123 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: Roger Stone or for anybody in the Trump world, they 124 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: all get the purp walk. They arrested I think a 125 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 1: pro life protester in front of his seven kids, handcuffed 126 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 1: him at seven in the morning to make sure all 127 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 1: his kids would see him walked out to a police car. 128 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: You know, this is infuriating. I don't know, if you know, 129 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 1: only having one body of congressman, how much we're gonna 130 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: be able to do. But we need to expose it 131 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: to sunlight. And then if we can ever get a 132 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: president again that has any kind of sense of hairs, 133 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: we need to absolutely take the FBI out of the 134 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 1: political games. And one of the things I'm proposing in 135 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 1: a bill that I'll be putting forward the next couple 136 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: of weeks is preventing the FBI from meeting to collude 137 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: or discuss protected speech. So long history of Supreme Court 138 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: case is saying what is protecting what isn't protected? So 139 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: the government will say, oh, well, don't you want to 140 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: stop ISIS from recruiting. Well, yeah, that's fine. If you 141 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: want to talk to Twitter about some guy who you 142 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: think is ISIS, that's fine. But you can't go talk 143 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: to Twitter or Facebook or YouTube. You can't go to 144 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: talk to them to say, well, the government doesn't want 145 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: anybody saying masks don't work, or saying the vaccines aren't 146 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: necessary for children. Those are debatable protected speech and we 147 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: absolutely have to give the government out of that. Senator Paul. 148 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: Also today there's been the latest Twitter files released, this 149 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: one having to do with the Russian bot armies. What 150 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: has just been your overall takeaway about the Twitter releases 151 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: and do you have any thoughts on the latest that 152 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: the Russian bot armies were exaggerated. I can't help but 153 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: think about you know, when everybody said, you know, the Russians, 154 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: you know elected Donald Trump, one of my favorites. Was 155 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: one of his lines. He was in I think West Virginian. 156 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: West Virginians like you know, from the mountain area, a 157 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: lot like Kentucky and hard working people that have worked, 158 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: you know, hard in the coal mines, and Trump would 159 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: say to them, he said, are there any Russians? Here, 160 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 1: are there any Russians in the audience. You know, it 161 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: was crazy to everthink somehow he was elected or supported 162 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 1: by Russia, you know, getting him elected. But I think 163 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: the truth helps, and the fact that Elon Musk is 164 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: doing this is it's an extraordinary thing because you rarely 165 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: get to see behind the veil. And you know what 166 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 1: we saw yesterday with you know, board members of Visor 167 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: of Visor, the vaccine maker actually trying to tamp down 168 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 1: anybody who even had this was a former assistant secretary 169 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: of HHS saying that there was you know, look, natural 170 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: immunity does work in his protective and Scott Gottlieb, you know, 171 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: a board member of FISER trying to get that censored. 172 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: So this is a big problem. What we're waiting to 173 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: fix it is for people on the left who used 174 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: to be champions of the First Amendment to wake up 175 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: and join the fight. Senator and Paul with us right 176 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 1: now breaking down the latest news. But also I'm sure 177 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: you read the editorial in the Wall Street Journal. We've 178 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: talked a lot about the Twitter files, but Facebook, Instagram, heck, 179 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: even WhatsApp YouTube. The degree of basically censorship that was 180 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: coming out of the White House is frankly unprecedented and 181 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: unlike anything I've ever seen, and I bet you would 182 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: agree they seem to be clear unconstitutional violations. What was 183 00:09:55,280 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: your reaction to those documents coming out? I agree. I 184 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 1: think we have to be careful what we think the 185 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: solution is. So if people think the solution is that 186 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 1: we should regulate speech at Twitter or regulate speech at 187 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: Facebook or YouTube, I'm not there. I think we can 188 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: regulate government's interaction with those platforms, but I don't necessarily 189 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: want to regulate their speech. As much as the people 190 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: at YouTube despise me and I despise them, or Facebook 191 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: for that matter, or any of these other social media 192 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: networks that take me down or take down my opinions, 193 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: I don't want to enforce my ability to say what 194 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: I want to say on their platform. I will go 195 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: somewhere else. And I think the big danger is we 196 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: have to realize that if we open the door for 197 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 1: government to regulate big tech and the speech on big tech, 198 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 1: we're also opening the door to regulating radio and radio waves. 199 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: Right now, probably talk radio is ninety percent from the 200 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 1: right wing, and that's a great thing because it shows 201 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: a lot of Americans want to listen to that point 202 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: of view. We agree it as a beautiful regulating radio 203 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: Content's that well, I just this is You're right, It's 204 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 1: among the most beautiful things for anyone's ears talk radio. 205 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: It's why our audience keeps exploding, Senator. And I was 206 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 1: just going to mention to your point. I agree with 207 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: you on the regulation issue. You may recall this because 208 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: we shared an interview with you on this program. YouTube 209 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: refused to allow us to share that interview, and I 210 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: just am still boggled by the idea that And this 211 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: is as you are running for reelection, regardless of what 212 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: people might think about you, why in the world would 213 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: your opinions not deserve to be as widely distributed as 214 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: possible to allow people to react to and positively or 215 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: negatively at the ballot box. And as I recall, the 216 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: discussion was over whether masks work, and I was saying 217 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,679 Speaker 1: adamantly the cloth mask don't work. In fact, they might 218 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: encourage you to have risky contacts with people who have 219 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,199 Speaker 1: COVID if you think cloth mask is helping you. And 220 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: about three weeks after YouTube took me down and banned 221 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: us discussing it on your program, then the CNN doctor 222 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: who'd been a big fan of doctor Fauci Sefi. They 223 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 1: said on air, the cloth masks are nothing more than aration, 224 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, it's okay, It's okay, 225 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: out cloth masks. We just want you, doctor Paul to 226 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 1: know that the Clay and Buck Show will always be 227 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: a safe space for science and truth. So you don't 228 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 1: worry about that. We've got you here. We love it, 229 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: and talk radio is something that is It's an amazing niche. 230 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: You meet how many people who work for a living 231 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: that are in the car all the time, traveling salesman, truckers, 232 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 1: meanps drivers, you name it, that are in the car 233 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: all day long. These are the real backbone of our country. 234 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: These are the working people, and they are buying large 235 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,599 Speaker 1: unsympathetic to those who don't want to work, and you 236 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: want to sit on their butt and get money. And 237 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: if you want to probably meet the people who are 238 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: least tolerant of those who choose not to work, go 239 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,319 Speaker 1: anywhere where a bunch of guys have grease on their 240 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: hands and have big, strong forums because they work every day, 241 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: and you'll find, you know what, almost no tolerance for 242 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 1: these people sitting on their butt not working, Senator Paul 243 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 1: One more for you. The FDA no longer acquires drugs 244 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: to be tested on animals before human trials. Tell us 245 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: about this is a big win. Yeah, this is a 246 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: bipartisan bill I did with Senator Booker Corey Booker from 247 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: New Jersey. So we have a progressive Democrat, conservative Republican. 248 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: We came together and we basically changed a law from 249 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 1: the nineteen forties that said you cannot approve any drug 250 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: for humans unless it's first tested on animals. And what 251 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: we did is change it. We didn't forbid testing on animals. 252 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: We just said that you don't have to do it. 253 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: It's no longer mandatory. If they can prove safety without 254 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: doing animal testing, they can. And our hope is over 255 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: time that this will change because we found that some 256 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: drugs that are unsafe in animals are actually safe for humans, 257 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 1: and vice versas, some drugs that are unsafe in animals 258 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 1: are actually fine for humans. And so really we have 259 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 1: the ability to do less of the animal testing. It 260 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 1: won't be forbidden, but we're hoping there will be less. 261 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: And there's a lot of frivolous stuff too, And frankly, 262 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 1: doctor Fauci has been the leading a lot of this. 263 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: We farm out a lot of this grotesque and gruesome 264 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: and tortuous research to foreign countries. You know, the beagles 265 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: in Tunisia having their eyelids sown open and their larynx 266 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,319 Speaker 1: has cut out so the scientists don't have to hear 267 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: them whimpering and crying as we inject sand fleas into 268 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: their eyes. That kind of stuff is gratuitous and not necessary. 269 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: Over decades, people became more conscious of this and actually 270 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: voluntarily the cosmetic industry, you know, will advertise not tested 271 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: on animals, and it turned out that there was a 272 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: huge market of people buying cosmetics who actually preferred to 273 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: have it not tested on animals. Senator Ran Paul, keep 274 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: up a good fight. We can't wait to see what 275 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: you're gonna be able to do to help get the 276 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: truth out about COVID, Fauci and more. And also we 277 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: want to say hi to your wife, Kelly, who we 278 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: know as a big fan. Thank you for coming on 279 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: the show and all you're doing. Thanks guys, thanks for 280 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: having man. Thank you at Senator Rand Paul. We are waiting. 281 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: It should be interesting. Karine Jean Pierre is about right 282 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: a straight face. 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Clay Travis 312 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton. Welcome back to White a day on 313 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: Clay and Buck. Here it is amazing special counsel name 314 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: for the Biden classified docks. And you got that going on. 315 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: You got a national egg shortage which we were talking about, 316 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: which is dogs and cats living together mass hysteria. And 317 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, Clay, I want to get one 318 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: of these Biden jobs. Think about the way they pull 319 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: this stuff off. Hunter Biden was getting. 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The timeline out there November two, the 354 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 1: initial discovery, December twentieth, additional documents classified in nature discovered 355 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 1: in his garage beside the Biden family corvette, and yesterday 356 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 1: on January eleventh, another document was found. Today around one 357 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:43,880 Speaker 1: fifteen pm Eastern, a special council was appointed and that 358 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: is where we are. Let me play that audio for 359 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: those of you who might have missed it here as 360 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: Merritt Garland announcing the Special Counsel. I'm here today to 361 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: announce the appointment of Robert her as a special Council 362 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:59,199 Speaker 1: pursuing the Department of Justice regulations governing such matters and 363 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 1: keeping with those regulations, I have today notified the designated 364 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,400 Speaker 1: members of each House of Congress of the appointment. I'm 365 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: joined today by John Lausch, the US Attorney for the 366 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: Northern District of Illinois, who conducted the initial investigation into 367 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 1: the matter that I will describe today. On the evening 368 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:17,919 Speaker 1: of November fourth, twenty twenty two, the National Archives Office 369 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 1: of Inspector General contacted a prosecutor at the Department of Justice. 370 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 1: It informed him that the White House had notified the 371 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: Archives that documents sparing classification markings were identified at the 372 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 1: office of the Penn Biden Center for Diplomacy and Global Engagement, 373 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: located in Washington, DC. Okay, I think we can cut 374 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: this off, but that is the official announcement. That's the 375 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: timeline that was laid out by the Attorney General Merrick Garland. 376 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: Both Buck and I believe that ultimately this will lead 377 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: sometime in the summer to Marrick Garland coming out wagging 378 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: his finger, saying that both men mishandled classified documents, but 379 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: there won't be charges brought against either. That's what I 380 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 1: would predict. But I want to ask you this buck. 381 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: You were in the CIA, you have been around classified 382 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 1: documents quite a lot in your career. What would happen 383 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: if you had classified documents in your garage, if you 384 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 1: had possession of them in three different places that you worked. 385 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 1: I mean, I always remember I was sitting at in 386 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 1: the Langley cafeteria with a friend, young woman who was 387 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: also an analyst, and I was trying to get her 388 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: to stop crying, and I was asking, what's you know, 389 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: what's going on? And she says that she had gone 390 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: to do a briefing and you know, she she had 391 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 1: classified documents and she was holding them in her They 392 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 1: have these special case she put the classified documents and 393 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: you'll see people go around DC and foggy bottom and 394 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: stuff with them, a secure case for your classified documents. 395 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: And she had she had misplaced one, oh, displaced classified document. 396 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: She wouldn't stop crying. She's like, I have to go 397 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,919 Speaker 1: tell security. I've been looking. I've been looking, and you 398 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: know you have to and like security in the building 399 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 1: is going to tell you that you're basically the worst 400 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 1: person ever and your clearance is going to be suspended. Everything. 401 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: We actually talked to her and it's like, have you checked? 402 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:12,719 Speaker 1: This is really happened. I was like, have you checked 403 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: everywhere in your car? And kind of the light went 404 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: off and she realized, wait a second, and she went 405 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 1: she found it. The piece of paper had gotten lodged 406 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 1: under her seat. Always folks, whether it's your wallet, your 407 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: cell phone, the stuff that can get under those seats. 408 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: You know, you can fit a you can fit a 409 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 1: hippopotamus under a car seat somehow, like, it's crazy, what 410 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 1: could get stuck under there? She found it. It was fine. 411 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 1: She did have a moment where she didn't have what 412 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,479 Speaker 1: you positive control of the document, so she did have 413 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:48,199 Speaker 1: to go report to security. But they assumed on the 414 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: drive from Foggy Bottom to headquarters, nobody snuck into her 415 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: car a five minute grabber car, and she got a strike. 416 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: She got you know, she got a warning. But I'm 417 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 1: just bringing this up because that is how seriously you 418 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 1: are made to take this stuff. If you are dealing 419 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: with the day to day and you're just an everyday 420 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 1: person and you're doing nothing reckless, nothing wrong, but you know, 421 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: mistakes happen. Mistakes happen leads to adults who you know, 422 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: went to fancy schools that have advanced degrees and stuff 423 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: breaking down into tears in the middle of the day. 424 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,400 Speaker 1: So yeah, that gives you. I think a basic context 425 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: for this is taken for the rank and file, super seriously. 426 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: I mean, there was years ago a Navy guy, I 427 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: forget his rank, a guy in the Navy who took 428 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,719 Speaker 1: a photo. This became a famous case and he was 429 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 1: eventually pardoned. I think Trump pardoned him actually, which was 430 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: the right thing to do. He took a photo. I 431 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: think he took a photo on an area of a 432 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: submarine that he wasn't supposed to and then he deleted 433 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: it right away, and he actually got six months I 434 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: think for that, Like he got time in prison for that. 435 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: Now I'm going my memory, so I might have missed something, 436 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:01,479 Speaker 1: But those sorts of things happen. Look, everything Senator Rampaul 437 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 1: said is absolutely true. I tweeted this before before Rand 438 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: Paul came on. I said, when you're dealing with a 439 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: lot of class documents about ten percent, you know, if 440 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: you've got if You've got ten pages of classified on 441 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 1: you on your table. You know, depending on what office 442 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: you're in, what you're dealing with, maybe one of those 443 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: pages has some stuff that you're like, oh gosh, like 444 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 1: don't want the bad guys to know about this or whatever. 445 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: Sources and methods may be compromised. Most of it, though, 446 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 1: you're like, is this the front page of the economists? Like, 447 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:32,239 Speaker 1: give me a break Overclassification is totally the norm all 448 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: across the federal bureaucracy, and it is to protect themselves. 449 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 1: It is to maintain control of different, you know, areas 450 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 1: of interest and budgets, and it goes to all that 451 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: bureaucratic sloth and nonsense. So the real issue here, though 452 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: Clay is Democrats went all in on the Marlago thing. 453 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: I mean they radied with the FBI the home they rated, 454 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: the home of a former president and likely future president, 455 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:02,439 Speaker 1: over nothing that We've been consistent. By the way, this 456 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: is important, I think, and I know many of you 457 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: out there will remember this, but we said this was 458 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: a political rig job, and we talked about the fact 459 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 1: that we had been in mar Lago and the fact 460 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: that you had to go through Secret Service to move 461 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: anywhere basically around that property. And now and we told 462 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: you it was a setup and all this, that it 463 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 1: was outlandish that the FBI had decided to conduct this raid, 464 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: that Merritt Garland had given them that authority, all that 465 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: we told you back in August when this happened. And 466 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: now left wingers, allies of Joe Biden who argued that 467 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 1: the entire book should get thrown at Trump over these 468 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: classified documents, they're now dealing with Joe Biden saying, oh, 469 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 1: these were secured in my garage beside the corvette, when 470 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: everybody out there listening knows the garage is if you're 471 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: putting paper out the place where you would put paper 472 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 1: that matters to you the least. Right, your kids birth 473 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 1: certificates are probably not in the garage, your marriage certificate 474 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 1: hopefully is not in the garage. Things that matter in 475 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 1: your life are typically not stored in the garage. And 476 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 1: Joe Biden even and this is why it kind of 477 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 1: hits the height of absurdity, and I couldn't help but 478 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,679 Speaker 1: laugh as all this information came out. Buck They actually 479 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: have a advertisement that they ran in the twenty twenty 480 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: election where Joe Biden is driving this corvette and it's 481 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: probably a nineteen sixties era corvette. But in the background 482 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:40,360 Speaker 1: of the shot you can see the documents potentially up 483 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: against the back wall there not stored very well. Now 484 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: important details here. Independent council appointed. It's the first independent 485 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 1: council to investigate a Democratic president since Ken Starr was 486 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 1: appointed to investigate Bill Clinton. So this is a big deal, 487 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: even if we think the actual result will be small. 488 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 1: And I will say this Robert Herr, if he got 489 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 1: the authority based on some of these documents being from Ukraine, 490 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 1: based on Hunter Biden potentially having access to this garage 491 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: and these other office settings to start to ask questions 492 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: about Hunter Biden's involvement with his father that could if 493 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 1: they were if he were able to potentially open the 494 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: door to connect the Biden crime family. I don't think 495 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: it will happen, but it's worth mentioning now that there 496 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: is in theory an independent counsel. Well, well this, I 497 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: do feel very confident and if they expand the investigation 498 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: beyond look why I think it's worth saying, why did 499 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 1: I think they wouldn't appoint the special counsel here because 500 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: of the political hit and the neutralization of what they're 501 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: doing against Trump. Now, I've already had some people in 502 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 1: the last hour texting me and messaging me saying, well, 503 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,159 Speaker 1: don't assume that because they're going to make this a 504 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: nothing burger for Biden, that they'll be rational and make 505 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 1: it a nothing burger for Trump. I think this becomes 506 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: a really tough sell, you know. I think that it 507 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: becomes difficult for them. I'm glad you brought that up. 508 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: It's important to note the Special Counsel investigation of Trump 509 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: encompasses January sixth and the classified materials. There's a there's 510 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,919 Speaker 1: a much either, but that's right, there's like two different 511 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: avenues of potential legality. I think this cancels out the 512 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: classified materials aspect, probably leads to more focus on January 513 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: six would be my expectation. But charging Trump criminally for 514 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: January sixth is the is the thermonuclear legal option that 515 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 1: I I don't know if they're going to plus. I 516 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 1: think it's honestly just a super weak case. I mean 517 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: with the DC jury case than the classified document case. 518 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: I mean, the classified documents is effectively a process is 519 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: effectively a process cross It's much more long lines of 520 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: like did you lie about this thing in the investigation? Well, 521 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: you're you know you're not a trader, but like you 522 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: lied about the fact that you're not a trader. That's 523 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: what they did during all the Russia collusion stuff. So 524 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: but I do think that the reason I didn't believe 525 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 1: that they were going to necessarily do the special council thing, 526 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: but now I can see maybe why they why they 527 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: have gone to this step, is they can this can 528 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: be a very limited and very brief special counsel investigation, 529 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: so they get to do a version of remember how 530 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: you were saying, Oh, they want to indict hunters, so 531 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: they can also indict Trump have the political capital to 532 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 1: get away with that at some level, and I don't 533 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 1: know if they even think they need that, But put 534 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 1: that aside for a second. In this instance, by declaring 535 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 1: a special count and by appointing a special counsel, I 536 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: declare a special counsel. I think that what you see 537 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: is this will be very short. If it's not, though, 538 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: this is what made me think of it. To what 539 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: you just said about, well, what if they look at hunters. 540 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 1: If anything else starts to get entangled into this, it 541 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: is the push Biden out for twenty twenty four operation 542 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: full stop. If this becomes a super narrow, limited and 543 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 1: brief in duration special counsel. If it really is just 544 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 1: Biden had some senior moments, as he is a senior 545 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: and left some documents in places he shouldn't have, there 546 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: won't be any charges. They'll close it quickly. And that's 547 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: where the finger wagging, Oh he was naughty, he won't 548 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: do it again comes into play. That's how, that's how 549 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 1: I think you'll know. Right. If this is just a 550 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 1: limited investigation, then this was an essence to get it 551 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: out of the way. Um. But if this is bigger 552 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 1: in any way, they're you know, Gavin Newsom, better start 553 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 1: doing some uh better start doing some chin ups and 554 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: work on the hair gel and start doing the swagger 555 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: and all this stuff. What about Kamala? I mean, I 556 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 1: mean again, this is a big mess. It will be 557 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 1: Kamala by the way, I'm not are you were? Are you? 558 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 1: Where are you on this? I don't think Newson, I 559 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 1: think are better candidate. I think it's really hard for 560 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 1: Democrats to get past the racist, sexist angle, and I 561 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 1: think it implodes the Democrat base if they if they 562 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: in a clear case where you know, this is like, 563 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: you know, she's the person at the company most qualified, 564 00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: whether you think she's good or not. She's the next 565 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: man up. She's here, she's on deck. So this is like, 566 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,719 Speaker 1: you know, the guy in the batter's box, you know 567 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 1: is uh, you know, he strikes out and then you 568 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: push the person from the on deck circle aside. I 569 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: don't think you're gonna be able. 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They 610 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: set up two sets of rules, one for them and 611 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: the other set of rules for all the rest of us. 612 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: They do not abide by the rules they set up 613 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: for us. The rules they set up for us are 614 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 1: basically about controlling us, limiting our freedom mobility, while scaring 615 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 1: us to death. There, of course, words of wisdom from 616 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: the greatest of all time in radio Rush Lambaugh himself, 617 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 1: And well, we're always thinking about Rush and we talk 618 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 1: about these issues because here we are on the platform 619 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: and in the house that Rush bill to Clay and 620 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 1: I every day. But also today is Rush's birthday, so 621 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: we're thinking about him for that reason as well. His 622 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:08,320 Speaker 1: name is getting some much deserved shout outs and praise 623 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,800 Speaker 1: from people like our friend Michael Barry and Houston and others, 624 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 1: some of the other greats in the radio business who 625 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 1: all recognize the greatest Rush, Limbaugh and Clay. The point 626 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 1: he made about the standards, I think it's so he 627 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 1: Rush saw this for decades. There is hypocrisy. We call 628 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 1: out the hypocrisy, but it is the point. They don't 629 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,240 Speaker 1: see it as well. There's rules for them and rules 630 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 1: for us, and that's not fair. It's of course there's 631 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: rules for them and rules for us, because they're better 632 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 1: than us, and so they have rules that are more 633 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 1: to their liking. Yeah, there's no doubt. And Rush was 634 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 1: a legend, and he obviously saw around the corner very 635 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 1: often in the direction that we were all headed. And 636 00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 1: we told you Buck on this show that twenty twenty 637 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: three I thought was going to be a wild year. 638 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 1: And I do think as we're finishing off the show today, 639 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: it's worth mentioning that the Biden people were planning on 640 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 1: announcing that he is running for reelection, potentially as soon 641 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 1: as February. So today we get the appointment of a 642 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 1: special council. Even if it's a rapid investigation, I would 643 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 1: expect that it would run into the summer. How, if 644 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 1: at all, does this implicate the timing of the Biden 645 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 1: administration regime's decision to announce a potential reelection bid. And 646 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,840 Speaker 1: is there more right? I mean, well, what I was 647 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:44,800 Speaker 1: going to say is that among the smartest minds from 648 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 1: the Trump White House, I would put Stephen Miller on 649 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,919 Speaker 1: that list. Very sharp, very very high wattage guy. We've 650 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,280 Speaker 1: had him on the show many times. He just tweeted 651 00:35:55,280 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 1: this out. They didn't just suddenly find a box of 652 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 1: highly classified documents next to Joe Biden's corvette. A lot 653 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 1: more going on here than meets the eye, a lot more. 654 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 1: I think he's onto something there, Buddy, You and I 655 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 1: both feel it. There's a missing piece here, There's something 656 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:19,879 Speaker 1: that does not add up well. And again the timeline, well, 657 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 1: we started this show. What I've been hammering on for 658 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 1: a long time. According to reports, the first discovery of 659 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 1: classified documents was made on November second. They then didn't 660 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 1: announce any additional documents had been found until December twentieth. 661 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 1: Why almost two months passed between those discoveries and then 662 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 1: yesterday they told the Department of Justice they had found 663 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 1: another classified document. Why do they get two months to 664 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:53,400 Speaker 1: conduct their own investigation? What's the real story here and 665 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 1: where is it headed and what are the implications going 666 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:57,919 Speaker 1: to be. I feel like we're gonna be talking about 667 00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 1: this for a while, though. I mean, you want to 668 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,880 Speaker 1: hear about all the stuff on the Clay and Buck Show, obviously, 669 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 1: so we'll talk you tomorrow about it, folks,