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Speaker 1: This is The EDS with Eddie Judge and Edwin Aroyave

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Speaker 1: the husband's know best at two Cheese Production. All right, guys,

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Speaker 1: welcome to another podcast of The EDS here with my

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Speaker 1: co host Edwin, and we are going to interview John Fuda.

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Speaker 1: John Fuda is married to the Real Housewives of New

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Speaker 1: Jersey cast member Rachel Fuda. John is a husband, father,

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Speaker 1: and business owner in New Jersey. And today we get

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Speaker 1: to know more about John off Reality TV. Really excited

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Speaker 1: about that. They do have three kids, Jayden, Gianella and Juliana.

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Speaker 1: Did I say those right?

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Speaker 2: Yes? You did?

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Speaker 1: Okay, And here's a surprise. They're expecting a fourth. We're

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Speaker 1: super excited for you, man, that's so cool. John and

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Speaker 1: Rachel joined the Housewives in twenty twenty three, so we're

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Speaker 1: excited to get the perspective from a newer house husband.

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Speaker 1: Well it's still fresh, you know. Welcome John Fuda.

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Speaker 2: Hey, you know what, thank you guys for having me.

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Speaker 2: Happy to be a part of the Edge show. Let's

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Speaker 2: do it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, congratulations John on the fourth kid, and welcome to

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Speaker 3: the club. I got four. Four is a good number.

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Speaker 2: By the way, what changes anything.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, the thing that changes the most I

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Speaker 3: think for the fourth one, you're not as like you

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Speaker 3: tend to leave the fourth one behind a little longer

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Speaker 3: than you did your first one, right and your second

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Speaker 3: this one's going to be on. We called mine. She

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Speaker 3: got red shirted for like the first year because you know,

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Speaker 3: she's just we couldn't take her anywhere whereas our first one.

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Speaker 3: I mean we were taking her to dinner at nine pm.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: The fourth one, it's like, oh, you're staying behind. You're

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Speaker 3: staying behind. And I don't think we started taking her

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Speaker 3: out there. She was like eighteen months, so she was

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Speaker 3: a true, true COVID baby.

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Speaker 2: Wow, so different because I have you know, with having

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Speaker 2: my son, Jaden's going to be eighteen, right, I have

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Speaker 2: an eighteen year old, a four year old, a two

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Speaker 2: It's just different. Like I was looking at colleges yesterday

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Speaker 2: and it's just like, wow, it's a reality check for sure.

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Speaker 2: I have two different age groups going on here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you definitely hit the reset button. And so John

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Speaker 3: tell us about so before Housewives. What was your childhood like.

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Speaker 2: My childhood?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you grew up in Jersey, right, how was that, John?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I grew up in Jersey. Family business Italians.

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Speaker 2: We're in the tile industry. I started I was laying tile,

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Speaker 2: my family selling tile.

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Speaker 2: Then I got into the parking industry and to my

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Speaker 2: business and then just kind of grinded. Man, wanted to

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Speaker 2: build a family. I found the perfect you know, found

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Speaker 2: also she accepted my son, which is not that easy, right,

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Speaker 2: but she took him on her own. That was a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so tell us about your siblings. Do you have

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Speaker 1: any siblings?

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Speaker 2: I do. I have one brother, one brother.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what was it like growing up with a brother

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Speaker 2: I have one step brother and maybe a couple of

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Speaker 1: But so you had a big family growing up typical Italian?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, typical time. One immediate brother. I do have

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Speaker 2: a step brother. And then, like I said, but we're

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Speaker 3: So you grew up John, So you grew up selling

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Speaker 3: tile Teresa says you were selling some other stuff. She

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Speaker 2: Listen, this comment is so crazy, right because when you

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Speaker 2: I got arrested. I think I had eleven or twelve

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Speaker 3: Wow, So did you take up any of those potential partnerships.

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Speaker 2: I didn't because I was afraid to after that comment

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Speaker 2: and who knows what would it came next, you know, So.

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Speaker 1: That's a valid comment, that's a totally valid When we

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Speaker 1: little side effect here that you might need to watch out.

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Speaker 1: You know, we are going into competition with the cartels,

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Speaker 1: so it's a little dangerous. You know. It's not like

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Speaker 1: you're not just dealing with the Feds. You're dealing with

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Speaker 1: the cartels. And if you ever you know, if you

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Speaker 2: That comment made it seem like I was the cartel, Right,

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Speaker 2: it's like you're the largest I'm like, whoa relaxed there,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like, that's that's ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know what we're gonna We're gonna get

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Speaker 1: into how that all transpires. Because in my experience, you know,

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Speaker 1: I've been on the show for many years. The women

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Speaker 1: will do anything to hurt the other women on the show,

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Speaker 1: and if they can't get to those women, they will

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Speaker 1: attack their family, including the kids and husband, right. And

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Speaker 1: I think that's just low blow, trashy way of conducting themselves, honestly.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the husband's okay, you know, they're fair game

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Speaker 1: limits completely. So I've been accused of many things, but

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Speaker 1: the reality is, John, that's all they can come up with.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's that bad, right, you know. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Right they I think with me, you know, I got

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Speaker 2: a scarlet letter, I call it. I think there was

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Speaker 2: you have this platform where people follow and listen to you,

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Speaker 2: and you use it to your advantage to hurt somebody. Well,

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Speaker 2: I mean you've been on the show for how long now.

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Speaker 1: Gosh, I think something like twelve years.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you've got some time served.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, served my time, man. And I'm at the

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Speaker 1: point where I don't care because the reality is, John,

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Speaker 1: I don't have those kind of skeletons in my closet.

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Speaker 1: I'm not perfect, you know. I've done some stupid shit

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Speaker 1: You know, I am not a crook. And for these

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Speaker 1: people to come after us, men who have legitimate business,

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Speaker 1: you know, just want to support our wives on the

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Speaker 1: or not to be. It just it just irks me,

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Speaker 1: and it questions the whole why are we on this

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: But before we go that far, let's go back to

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Speaker 1: the beginning. John. I want to know, I want to

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Speaker 1: Real Housewives in New Jersey and did you have any

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Speaker 1: any knowledge of the show before you were a cast member?

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Speaker 2: Of course, well, I definitely had knowledge, right, So Joe

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Speaker 2: of Teresa's bankruptcy attorneys who helped take the time, So

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of connection to the show. But frank

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Speaker 2: to be honest with you, we moved up to Franklin Lake's.

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Speaker 2: you know. And I was buddies were Joey still because

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Speaker 1: First year on the show. Okay, so you guys were buddies.

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Speaker 2: And I was friends with Gorgo's before the show because

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Speaker 2: We were friends. Oh did give me a warning. He

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's funny you say that. I've only had

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Speaker 2: She she was incarcerator. I believe she was recently let out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. How long were you a single dad before you

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Speaker 2: She would watch him when I go out at night,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a long time. Mine was only three weeks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I had to listen. I didn't want to rush

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Speaker 2: Most challenging things I guess this. You know, he didn't

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Speaker 2: laws regarding employment. Learn all those laws and just wait

437
00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,080
Speaker 2: three years. Man, don't give up till three years is done.

438
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Speaker 1: I like good advice.

439
00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, the number three, the number three.

440
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Speaker 3: What's the toughest part of what you do?

441
00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:02,280
Speaker 2: You think the toughest part about what I do is

442
00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,240
Speaker 2: dealing with personality. So I deal with the client, I

443
00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,840
Speaker 2: deal with the employee. Now there's a lot of labor

444
00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,160
Speaker 2: laws out there now that make the job a little harder.

445
00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:11,760
Speaker 2: And then you have to go to the client to

446
00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,560
Speaker 2: get more money. You know, obviously pay for more things

447
00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,800
Speaker 2: that they're offering as a law, and that's what makes

448
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:19,480
Speaker 2: it harder for fund the equal balance to do.

449
00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,399
Speaker 3: So, by the way, is Jersey like Cali, where like

450
00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,879
Speaker 3: the other day I was driving on the freeway and

451
00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,359
Speaker 3: I kid you not, I took a two hour drive

452
00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,679
Speaker 3: and then I just started seeing billboards and all of

453
00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:34,760
Speaker 3: them are lawyers. Like it got my attention. I'm like, oh, shoot,

454
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,800
Speaker 3: every billboard is a freaking lawyer like that.

455
00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jersey is just like that, but not as bad

456
00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,240
Speaker 2: as Calie. Cali has to be one of the worst

457
00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:49,640
Speaker 2: states to employ people in. It is. It is something else,

458
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,240
Speaker 2: it really is. But I mean, look, that's just the

459
00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,080
Speaker 2: world we're living right, Guys like, look, yeah, a world.

460
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,040
Speaker 2: I don't know. You both can remember five years ago,

461
00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,720
Speaker 2: just before COVID how different it was to what is now.

462
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:02,960
Speaker 2: You know, just being in business is a whole different

463
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:07,159
Speaker 2: ballgame right now. Yeah, there's so many people that are

464
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:11,359
Speaker 2: going in business for themselves, you know, they're Grooper really

465
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,440
Speaker 2: changed a lot in the game. But there's so many

466
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,480
Speaker 2: I would say, migrants and people that are basically going

467
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,600
Speaker 2: in business for themselves competing and they're not they're not

468
00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,119
Speaker 2: paying the right insurances, they're not doing things right, and

469
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:23,800
Speaker 2: you're you're stuck competing against that.

470
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's the best. The bottom line is,

471
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:30,320
Speaker 1: you know, I've learned throughout my business career there's always

472
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:34,040
Speaker 1: going to be those that break the law and seem

473
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 1: to be getting away with it. You know, they might

474
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:40,119
Speaker 1: advertise illegally and claim make claims that are not true

475
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 1: and get the business, get the customers, and ultimately they

476
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 1: fail because they don't deliver on their promise or what

477
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 1: they're selling. Right. So I always say, it's it's not

478
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,680
Speaker 1: a matter of if, it's a matter of when they

479
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 1: get caught and their business is going to be under

480
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,359
Speaker 1: And I noticed kind of a pattern as well with

481
00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,280
Speaker 1: those same people that do that kind of crap. They

482
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 1: start a business, they get their money, then they bankrupt it,

483
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,360
Speaker 1: and then they go up and open up another business

484
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,200
Speaker 1: and do the same shit it over and over and over,

485
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 1: and eventually it'll catch up to them, maybe, like the

486
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 1: FBI will catch up to them. But you know, it's

487
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 1: just it makes it hard for legitimate businesses to not

488
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 1: only you know, maintain the validity of the industry, like

489
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 1: the cannabis industry especially right now. Right we have a

490
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 1: lot of competition with a lot of fake products out

491
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 1: there that say, you know, this is cannabis, and then

492
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,640
Speaker 1: it hurts the industry. Even though we're doing everything diligent,

493
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 1: providing quality ingredients and quality products, doing all the testing

494
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,880
Speaker 1: and everything and giving the customer exactly what we say

495
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 1: is in our product, there's other companies out there that

496
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 1: are not providing any of that, and it hurts the

497
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 1: industry overall. So that irks me and I hate that,

498
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 1: But that's the reality of business in America, right, Yeah.

499
00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 2: No, it really is. That you just spelled it out perfectly. Now,

500
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,879
Speaker 2: there's always going to be guys around us in business

501
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,680
Speaker 2: that are always looking to raise capital. I always that's

502
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 2: a red flag whenever I hear that, what do you

503
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 2: need money for it? And then all of a sudden

504
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,400
Speaker 2: they're starting business to putting it into some other type

505
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 2: of their business and stealing the money that way. So

506
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:19,119
Speaker 2: I always looked out for those people. And then you

507
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,679
Speaker 2: get you know, if someone needed a loan or whatever

508
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,119
Speaker 2: and you can't go to a bank, it's a huge

509
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,919
Speaker 2: red flag. And I feel so bad for business people

510
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,239
Speaker 2: that I talk to and people it's like, oh, I

511
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,880
Speaker 2: loan money to this person to help them start a business,

512
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,360
Speaker 2: and I haven't seen him return in two years and

513
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,159
Speaker 2: they haven't shown me anything. What can I do? What

514
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,880
Speaker 2: can you do? I mean, what what's mattered? Every quarter?

515
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 2: You should be looking for a statement. And if that

516
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 2: statement is not there, how did you guarantee to your loan.

517
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,119
Speaker 2: There's so many things that I feel bad for that

518
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 2: I sit and I'm like, you loan money to who

519
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 2: for what? And I don't loan money to family. I

520
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 2: don't help. I don't know. I don't do that.

521
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,119
Speaker 1: It's a giveaway for money for family. You you just

522
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 1: don't expect it back.

523
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 2: No, I don't. I don't do that. Yeah, You'll never

524
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 2: get it back.

525
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 1: Yeh, I never get it back.

526
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 3: Hey, John, tell us about glamorous studios and you what

527
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:20,880
Speaker 3: made you want to partner up with Joe?

528
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 2: What made me want to partner with the Gorgas?

529
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:24,239
Speaker 3: Uh?

530
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 2: Well, everybody says to the partner with the Gorga and

531
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 2: they got screwed or some business deal went bad. Right,

532
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 2: So I guess I challenge the ultimate, right. I was like,

533
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,360
Speaker 2: you know what, I want to go at this now.

534
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 2: I'm just kidding around. So me and Joe are really

535
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:41,679
Speaker 2: good friends. Look, I'm in this phase now where passive

536
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 2: income is my new thing, all right. I just want

537
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 2: to create passive income. And the way I explained it

538
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 2: all I was like, I want to build rivers, and

539
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,919
Speaker 2: those rivers are going to feed the bay, and I

540
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 2: want those rivers to constantly flow. So you know, I

541
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 2: have a billable hour river that's flowing. I have a

542
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 2: couple of rental units, and I'm building that river that's flowing.

543
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 2: And I wanted to expand. So going into glan Slon

544
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 2: Studios is basically the space that I think is thriving. Right.

545
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 2: Everybody wants to be in business for themselves now, so

546
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 2: why not take a larger space, subdivided, give them the

547
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 2: ability to be in business for themselves. Now both of

548
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 2: our wives. I have people in and out of my

549
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 2: house daily, and all I do is I talk to

550
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 2: these people because that's just who I am, the personality.

551
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 2: I talked to everybody. How you doing? We just start?

552
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 2: Had you come up? You know? And I talked to

553
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 2: all these beauty exeditions and I just hear the story

554
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 2: and I'm like, you know what, this is a great idea.

555
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 2: I started fishing around. There was a buddy who was

556
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 2: doing it where I was going to invest in them

557
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:42,120
Speaker 2: with him. Something turned me off about investing with them,

558
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 2: so I decided that that wasn't the route to go.

559
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 2: So me and Joe decided at that point, hey, let's

560
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 2: just do it ourselves. You know, it's just I'm We're

561
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 2: going to go for it. See what we could turn

562
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 2: it into. He's got the construction background. I have some

563
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,120
Speaker 2: of it. We could turn this into a money maker.

564
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 2: Why not let's try it.

565
00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 1: Well, tell us about the business. What is it?

566
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 2: So what it is is it's basically subdivided studios. So

567
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,120
Speaker 2: we took a larger space. We subdivided it. Now, if

568
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 2: you're in the business of waxing people. Right, I got wax.

569
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,439
Speaker 2: So here you go, there's a wax studio. This is

570
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 2: I'm going to give Joe his own wax studio. This

571
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 2: you go wax away in there, right, But you want

572
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 2: to wax people, and you want to bring your clients there.

573
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 2: You pay us, you know, weekly, and then you're able

574
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 2: to bring your clients there. So now it's ay least

575
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 2: from us yearly, but it's just distributed weekly. And now

576
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 2: if they have a client base, they can bring them

577
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 2: there and they can use it as their studio. If

578
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 2: they are a eyebrow waxer, they do eyebrow waxing, we're tattooing.

579
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 2: You can rent a studio from us if you do hair.

580
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 2: And you don't want to work for a beauty salon

581
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 2: because a lot of these girls, you don't realize they're

582
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 2: working for these salons and they're getting they're given all

583
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 2: their money to the Salona arm. You wouldn't believe how

584
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 2: much the cut is. Where they're all going in business

585
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 2: for themselves at this point. And I mean, I'm sure

586
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 2: you guys see it. You got hair and makeup in

587
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 2: your house every day, you see what going on you know,

588
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 2: they're bringing everything to people's homes at this point just

589
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 2: to make the money, So why not give them a

590
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 2: studio space and then people can come to the studio. Yeah,

591
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,360
Speaker 2: so that's really what it is. It's basically you've got

592
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 2: boat talks. Come there. Now. Even if you're a doctor

593
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 2: and you need a strings office comes see, yes, we

594
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 2: got you.

595
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: So you're building the infrastructure, the real estate infrastructure around it.

596
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 1: So these folks have an economical way of conducting their

597
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 1: business without you know, breaking the bank. When it comes

598
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: to having your own brick and mortar, right, well.

599
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 2: Think about it. To open a beauty salon, you have

600
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 2: to go out, you have to lease the space, you

601
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 2: have to put a security deposit down. Once you do that,

602
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 2: now you have to do a build out, right, You

603
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 2: got to build a whole place out. So if you

604
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 2: only need one chair really for yourself, and you have

605
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 2: to build four or five chairs and then go and

606
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 2: hire and manage employees. A lot of people don't want

607
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 2: to deal with that. They want to work for themselves,

608
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 2: but they don't want to deal with that. So our

609
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 2: salon suites give them the ability to work for themselves,

610
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 2: manage their own schedule. Have their own suite and that's it.

611
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 2: They don't have to put the money out to really

612
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 2: go crazy and build this whole place.

613
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 3: So is it like a Regius but for beauty right?

614
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 2: Pretty much?

615
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 3: Nice?

616
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: I like it. I like it.

617
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 2: We work are Regius, but it's all beauty space nice.

618
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 2: So it's interesting, you know, But it's about trying things.

619
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 3: So our next episode we're going to talk about what

620
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 3: Eddie and I do for beauty that would actually work

621
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 3: for us. We could actually go to one of your

622
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 3: salons if you open one in California.

623
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 2: What's your beauty routine? What do you do?

624
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 4: You just get a wait for the other episode. Yeah,

625
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 4: we'll talk about that at the next episode for sure.

626
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 4: But we want to we really want to just make

627
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 4: this about you and and learn as much as we

628
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 4: can about you. John, I'd like to talk a little

629
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 4: bit more about the me experience Ed and I Edwin

630
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 4: and I Can I.

631
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: Call you Ed because yeah, yeah, so Ed and I

632
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: we we've experienced it good and bad, and we've shared

633
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 1: our experience on the show and with some examples. Can

634
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: you tell us a little bit about what do you

635
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 1: like and what you dislike about filming reality TV? Real Housewives.

636
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,959
Speaker 2: So one of the one of the things I like is,

637
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 2: you know, obviously your wife is happy. You see her happy, right,

638
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 2: And you get to meet people and you get to

639
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 2: do with some of the some very interesting things that

640
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 2: you probably wouldn't really do every day. Right. You get

641
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 2: to go to certain events, you get to do things,

642
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 2: you get put on a pedestal a little bit, you

643
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 2: get reservations easy, you get hooked up. But I think

644
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 2: some of the most challenging things I have is being

645
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 2: a guy on The Real Housewives New Jersey. It's almost

646
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 2: like you're a main cast member, but you're not right

647
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 2: because you're not a housewife technically, right, But your whole

648
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 2: life is on TV, your whole kids are on TV,

649
00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 2: and you have people that are blowing you up on

650
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 2: social media. Right. Social media is the playground for everybody

651
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 2: to have their opinion, right, like, oh, you're involving yourself

652
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 2: too much, or you're this, or you're that, And it's

653
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 2: very easy to have an opinion. It's very easy to

654
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 2: have an opinion until you're the person that's being judged constantly.

655
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 2: You know, But I just don't care, so it doesn't

656
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 2: bother me. But you know, when you're thinking in the

657
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 2: moment and you're like, Okay, well I did it this way.

658
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 2: You don't really have so much time to really think

659
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 2: about the best way to do it. Sometimes this is

660
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 2: not scripted, you know, you just freestyleing off the cup.

661
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 2: And I didn't go to school being in a reality

662
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 2: TV And I'm a business dude. I'm in a valet

663
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 2: business and tile business. You know, I'm not in theater

664
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 2: at all art, you know. So I don't like you know,

665
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 2: there's a lot of things going on on social media,

666
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 2: and there's a lot of people that kind of rip

667
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 2: our lives apart as if we're toys and then actually

668
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 2: in a play chess and we're really not. I don't

669
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 2: like our kids involved, you know. I don't like when

670
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 2: people bring the kids into it. The kids are there,

671
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 2: they're part of our life, but they shouldn't be subject

672
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 2: to comments on social media things that are going on

673
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 2: that's out of bounce. You know, you totally now, Yeah,

674
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 2: my son doesn't need to you know, people are signed

675
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 2: him Bilbo pictures and this and that, and then you're

676
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 2: trying to tell me how to parent at the same time. No,

677
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 2: you know, it's very simple. I don't like, as a guy,

678
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 2: you just don't get any recognition. Your whole life is

679
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 2: being broadcast and you get no recognition to really say it.

680
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 2: I don't even have a confessional moment where I can

681
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 2: even defend myself most of these times. Right, some of

682
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 2: the other guys can get that, but I get ripped

683
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,479
Speaker 2: apart on season fourteen. I don't even have the ability

684
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 2: to say, hey, this is my version of what and

685
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 2: this is how this happened. I don't have that platform. Yeah,

686
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 2: so I don't like that. Other than that, it's not bad,

687
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 2: you know, it's just when the Housewives says something about

688
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 2: a guy, you don't really have the defense that you

689
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 2: should have.

690
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: Right, No, it's it's hard, especially when they're making a

691
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: fabricated lies about you, whatever they may be. You know,

692
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 1: it's it's how do you defend the lie? You just

693
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: ignore it. It has no legs, it's got no validity,

694
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 1: and you can say whatever you want until you break

695
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: the law. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna engage with you, right,

696
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,239
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna go there. I mean,

697
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: I can't tell you how many times I just wanted

698
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: to blow up and you know, go to the media

699
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: and tell my side of the story or or retaliate

700
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: if you will. But it really just becomes a waste

701
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: of my time when I could be doing some so

702
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: much other stuff, you know, more productive stuff, then defending

703
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: myself on a reality TV show which I have no

704
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: control of.

705
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 2: Right, right, And then it it just gets to a

706
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 2: point though where it's like whatever, it's only it's it's

707
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 2: a reality TV show and it's not real life. This

708
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 2: is ridiculous. And I think men process a little different

709
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 2: than women. Do you get angry about it, You go

710
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 2: to the gym, you work it off, and I think

711
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 2: you kind of just you know, move on with your day. Yeah.

712
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 2: I do think, and I'm a strong advocator for you know,

713
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 2: I do think there should be a men's time out,

714
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 2: or a men's show or men's vacation. I think that

715
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 2: there's so much the guys get along. Obviously in Vegas

716
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 2: we had a great time. We get along. There's so

717
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 2: much more to learn about the guys. And I think

718
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 2: that the guys tend to make people laugh.

719
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 1: And I think that, Yeah, I was just going to

720
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: say that the biggest difference about the Jersey men's cast

721
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 1: versus all the franchises, and I don't watch all of them.

722
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 1: I barely even watch mine. My experience on my own

723
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 1: cast is I don't know these guys from Adam. And

724
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 1: There's been very few, maybe three guys in the entire

725
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: twelve years that I've filmed that I've actually liked the

726
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 1: guys on the other on the cast, you know, Terry

727
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 1: Burrow being one, Shane being another, David deb Or, David Badoor,

728
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: you know, very few guys. The rest of them sketchy,

729
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: you know, like I don't want anything to do with them,

730
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 1: zero to do with them, and and like, and that's

731
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 1: the problem I have with being on a show where

732
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: I can you know, I don't know these people. I

733
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,760
Speaker 1: don't want to know these people. But even if I did,

734
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: I wouldn't trust to tell them anything because you never

735
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 1: know what's going to be shown on TV, right, or

736
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: what they're going to bring up for whatever reason? Right, Yeah,

737
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: I don't know who. Do you think Edwin well?

738
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 3: No, I tend to agree. It's it's tough. I think

739
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 3: the Jersey guys do a good job of like really

740
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 3: hanging out and stuff, but it is hard to what

741
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,760
Speaker 3: do you tell? How much could you tell a cast

742
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 3: member because they could tell the wife and then the

743
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 3: wife turns around and blows you up on TV. Right, So, uh,

744
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 3: you just to your point, you never know, And I

745
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 3: think that's what makes it a little harder for the

746
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 3: guys to like really kind of hang out. Uh is

747
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 3: that I think most won't admit it, but I think

748
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 3: deep down it's kind of hard to hang out because

749
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 3: of that because you just don't know. That's when when

750
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 3: I mean, I haven't seen it, but you saw it.

751
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 3: Maybe you see it, Eddie, But typically once you stop filming,

752
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 3: you're not really hanging out.

753
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 2: I think.

754
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 3: Again, I think the Jersey guys do a good job

755
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 3: of that, but I think everyone else I haven't really

756
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,959
Speaker 3: seen anybody really hang out after filming.

757
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:15,879
Speaker 1: Like that was my point I was trying to make,

758
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,479
Speaker 1: is that the Jersey guys are different when it comes

759
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,919
Speaker 1: to the show. Because you guys all get along, most

760
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: of you get along.

761
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 2: You got to make sure you say most of us.

762
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you know. And in my opinion, this is

763
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 1: just my opinion, it's all revolving around Joe Gorga, who's

764
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 1: the life of the party, totally down to earth cool guy.

765
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,760
Speaker 1: We had him on our podcast and We really enjoyed

766
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 1: his energy and his story. And from day one I

767
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 1: got along with Joe because he's just such a cool

768
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: cat and he just wants to have a good time.

769
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 1: You know, he's not attacking the guys. He's just I mean,

770
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 1: he wants to be on stage and he's good. He's

771
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: got charismatic charisma up the yin yang and he's had

772
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: your own show at the Bravo Calm last year. It's

773
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 1: just phenomenal. Yeah. I mean, you guys are enjoying it

774
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,919
Speaker 1: and having fun, and I do admire that, but we

775
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 1: we don't have any of that in my in my franchise.

776
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: I don't think you have that edwin like that kind

777
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 1: of connection. Yeah. Yeah, it's just it's it's not it's

778
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: not something that is common in the Housewives show. But

779
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: you guys definitely stand out. And when I hung out

780
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: with you guys, gave me the opportunity to hang out

781
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: with you guys at probably Con, I really enjoyed myself

782
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 1: and there was no pressure, there was no like I'm

783
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: trying to be somebody I'm not and and it was cool.

784
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed hanging out with you guys.

785
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 2: No, you hit it best we just all, you know,

786
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 2: we all want to have a good time, not just

787
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 2: we all want to just have a good time, laugh

788
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 2: and have a good time go home. That's that is

789
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 2: Like even tonight Joe and Frank they got a comedy show.

790
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 2: I'll probably go there at some point tonight or tomorrow

791
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 2: and bust their chops in the audience.

792
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 1: Have fun.

793
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 2: It's just we have a good camaraderie. Again, not all

794
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 2: of us, but before there's four of us that have

795
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 2: a really close relationship.

796
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, Joe's doing comedy now, Yeah, I got to keep

797
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 3: up with him.

798
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, he does it all. I'm telling you, he's been

799
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 1: doing comedy.

800
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 2: And actually he's pretty funny, man, I give him that.

801
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 2: You know, he's pretty funny. But I mean, look, Joe's

802
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 2: a great guy. I know him on a different level.

803
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 2: I mean since I got in this show, he took

804
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 2: me right underneath his wedding. Could have could have steered

805
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 2: me in the wrong direction. There was no jelus here,

806
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 2: any of that steered me in the right direction. We're

807
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 2: boys who are friends to his day. Just have fun

808
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 2: with it, That's all I can say. Man, I have

809
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 2: fun with it. There's good days and bad you know.

810
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 2: There's some days but the internet's blowing up and it

811
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 2: just like, what the hell did I do this for?

812
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 2: You know?

813
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, Eventually, like.

814
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 2: Anything else, you outgrow it. I think that's that's the

815
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 2: best word. Eventually. It's like I would either run in

816
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 2: their mouth again, so be it. Like I heard, you know,

817
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,399
Speaker 2: Kenny and was just doing a podcast running her mouth

818
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 2: about my family. Yeah, go ahead if you need to

819
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 2: talk about me that bad.

820
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: I love that.

821
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel bad because we're not talking. I don't

822
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 2: really give a shit about your people. Yeah, that's how

823
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 2: I call it. I really don't give us to it.

824
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: And I think that's another really good point we want

825
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: to bring up is that the show is a show,

826
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 1: and even though it is reality TV, it's still a production.

827
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 1: It's still edited, and it's still designed to create a

828
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: story and a show for what it's worth. Taking it

829
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 1: outside of the filming days and the airing days and

830
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: making this a personal attack on your social media or however,

831
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 1: just anything outside of the Bravo curtain. It should be

832
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,919
Speaker 1: off limits. You know. It's like you go to work.

833
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 1: Let's say you're a lawyer. You go to work, you

834
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,399
Speaker 1: practice law, and then you leave it at the office. Right,

835
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 1: sometimes you take it home, but it's here. You're not

836
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: broadcasting it to the world to say, this is the

837
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,439
Speaker 1: biggest case I'm working on, and I'm going to tell

838
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,760
Speaker 1: everybody what's going on, because then you'd lose the case.

839
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 1: But the point is keep it in the TV realm,

840
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 1: don't take it outside of this and make it that

841
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: much more personal than it has to be. And I

842
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: get it. Some people have to defend their lies, but

843
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,720
Speaker 1: you know, the truth is the truth and will always prevail.

844
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: The truth will always prevail.

845
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 2: I also think some people just need to do that

846
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 2: to build who they are, you know, And I don't

847
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,280
Speaker 2: think unless you have somebody to take down, you have nothing.

848
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 2: There's some people that are like that in the world, right.

849
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 2: I know a lot of people that they have to

850
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 2: rip people apart to build themselves up.

851
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's kind of their character. But some would

852
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 1: argue that my wife falls into that category. But she

853
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: just tells the truth, you know, she just calls out

854
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: the truth. She's not making up lies. She's not pretending that.

855
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 1: You know that. You know, she won't say anything that's

856
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,720
Speaker 1: not true about you. She might get a little crazy,

857
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: but she doesn't, you know, make lies up.

858
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,919
Speaker 2: Except yep, I thought your wife's awesome. Man, I'm pretty

859
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,359
Speaker 2: good judge of character, but I thought I thought she's

860
00:40:58,400 --> 00:40:58,919
Speaker 2: a great girl.

861
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: She is is. I love her as well.

862
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 2: I like them both.

863
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're very they're very famous on their podcasts.

864
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 1: They're really happy with themselves because you know, they're killing it.

865
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 2: I like what you guys did to turn it, you know,

866
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 2: with you guys. I like that as well.

867
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 3: By the way, John, with with with everything being so

868
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 3: divided with New Jersey and you know, everybody kind of

869
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 3: just do you if Rachel were to come back, I mean,

870
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 3: is she coming back? And if she gets the call

871
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 3: to come back, would you tell her not to or.

872
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I'm gonna use Joe when you're already pregnant.

873
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,320
Speaker 2: You're already pregnant, right, so we're already pregnant for the

874
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 2: most part. That's how he says it. But my thing is,

875
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 2: we're already in the water, just seep right. Yeah. I'm

876
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 2: not saying we wouldn't get out, and I'm not saying

877
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 2: that we would. We'd have to feel it out and

878
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,399
Speaker 2: see what the rest of the circle looks like. And

879
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 2: you know, if you feel like you're going to be

880
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 2: in another toxic circle, then at some point you'd got

881
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 2: to walk away, right, you don't want to You're I'm

882
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 2: going to do something where it continues to affect you

883
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 2: in your career and stuff like that. If it's toxic, now,

884
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 2: if it makes sense and it's fun and there could be,

885
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 2: you know, something good that comes out of it and

886
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 2: people can have a good time, then yeah, it makes

887
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 2: sense to continue.

888
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 1: I like that answer, and I'll add to that. I

889
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: think it's you know, in reality in the real world,

890
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 1: if I find out that I'm in a circle of criminals,

891
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 1: I'm going to get out right. I don't want to

892
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: be around that, and not because I hold myself at

893
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 1: a higher standard, but because I don't want to risk

894
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:55,919
Speaker 1: my family being surrounded by that, you know. And that's

895
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: one of the issues I have with reality TV is

896
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 1: they're glorifying all this illegal transactions and illegalities of reality TV. Right,

897
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: Why are they getting so much attention if they're doing

898
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 1: something illegal? It doesn't make any sense to me. So

899
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: my answer would be, you know, if we're going to

900
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 1: surround us with a bunch of criminals, I'm out. I

901
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 1: don't want anything to do with that. But because in real

902
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: life I would take my stuff out of that picture easily, right, right,

903
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: Like you gotta.

904
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,280
Speaker 2: If you see that you got a bunch of criminals

905
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 2: around you, you have to evaluate at that point and

906
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 2: say this is not for me.

907
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 1: Yeah.

908
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, unfortunately till you get there, you know,

909
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 2: you don't really know what is there season by season.

910
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 1: Right, I mean, I think to that point, if you

911
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: are hanging out with a bunch of kids and you

912
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:46,760
Speaker 1: find out one kid you know is stealing and breaking

913
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,439
Speaker 1: into cars and you're just there hanging with them, yeah,

914
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 1: you're you're guilty by association, but you learn as a

915
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: young kid, I want nothing to do with those people, right,

916
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:56,879
Speaker 1: Because it.

917
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 2: Also looks like on you, it looks back because we're associated.

918
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 2: If you don't falk to somebody and you don't want

919
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 2: to mess with them, we're still associated. Yes, we're on

920
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 2: the same show, you know. Yeah, I hate it. Yeah,

921
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 2: I don't like it because it reflects on your character.

922
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 1: It does, it does, And you know, we spend at

923
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 1: least I know you guys too, We spend most of

924
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 1: our life being as good as a citizen and as

925
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,320
Speaker 1: good a person as we can. You know, we're not perfect.

926
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: But we do what's right, and and that just has

927
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: kept me out of trouble. And I've not done anything

928
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: so drastically illegal. You know. God, I haven't got a

929
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 1: speeding ticket in a long time. But I'm gonna knock

930
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 1: on wood right right, you know, good at night, I

931
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 1: sleep very good at night. I don't screw anybody. I

932
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: don't steal from people. I you know, if I don't

933
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,479
Speaker 1: like something, I just keep my mouth shut and stay

934
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 1: away from it, you know, unless unless it affects my

935
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,919
Speaker 1: family and and you know, the people I love. It's

936
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 1: not my business and I'd rather stay out of it.

937
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 2: But and that's that's just a man in general. Right

938
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 2: when you start messing with your family and you start,

939
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 2: of course you're gonna piss them off. They're gonna wake

940
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:06,879
Speaker 2: them up a little bit.

941
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So awesome question for you.

942
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 3: That's kind of out there. So just because the New

943
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 3: Jersey girls are a little intimidating, I think, is there

944
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 3: one in particular that you're like, I do not want

945
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 3: to get in a mess with that one?

946
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:28,399
Speaker 2: Interesting question? Is there one that.

947
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 3: You're just like, Man, this one's too quick, too witted,

948
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 3: like too much wit. I don't even have a chance.

949
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 2: My wife. Yeah, my wife, good answer. My wife would

950
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 2: be the one. Other than that, that's it.

951
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

952
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 2: So the Jersey girls you feel are intimidating. Man.

953
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 3: I've seen a little bit of them in action, and

954
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh shit, man, I would not want to

955
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 3: get in an argument with one of those.

956
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 2: There you go. It's funny, man. Jersey is such an

957
00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 2: interesting place, so is New York. But they're they're very catty,

958
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 2: that's for sure. Yeah, very caddy.

959
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: So, as we come to the end of the discussion here, John,

960
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: is there anything else you would like to tell the

961
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 1: listeners about yourself like that you don't want them to know.

962
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,839
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, obviously don't believe in what you're here.

963
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 2: That's just straight out ridiculous. Yeah. But yeah, listen, I

964
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 2: don't like to fight with women. I don't like to

965
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 2: do all that. I'm only in a position where I

966
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 2: have to defend myself and I did.

967
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:29,879
Speaker 1: Yeah.

968
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 2: Other than that, I want not to do any any

969
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 2: of the other ones. You know, unless you attack my family,

970
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 2: I'm going to do what every man does. It's going

971
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:41,320
Speaker 2: to be defend his family. Yeah, but and my children.

972
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 2: You know, I definitely don't think it's right that the

973
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 2: kids deal with stuff.

974
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's totally low blow. I mean that's trash

975
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: when when women do that.

976
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's not just women too, there's some guys

977
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 2: that do it as well. But just come on and

978
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 2: leave the kids out of it.

979
00:46:57,719 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, yeah, it.

980
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 2: Is, it is so but on that's it, man. You know,

981
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 2: unless you guys have any questions for me. But I'm

982
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 2: an open book. I got nothing to hide, and most

983
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 2: of the viewers know. If there's something they want to know,

984
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 2: shoot me a message. I always answer everybody.

985
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's awesome, and I do appreciate the transparency. There's

986
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 3: some questions that were probably hard to answer that you answered,

987
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,839
Speaker 3: and man, it's been a pleasure having you on the show.

988
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 3: Congratulations on all the success and keep questioning it.

989
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 2: Thank you, Bettie, Thank you. Man. It's only hard if

990
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 2: you've got something to hide. Man, if you've got nothing,

991
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 2: I agree with life. It's easy, man. There's nothing hard

992
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 2: about any of that, you know.

993
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, And to that point, I know that there's not

994
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 1: one person out there that doesn't have at least one

995
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: skeleton in the closet. But when you have a freaking

996
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: cemetery you should stay off reality TV shows.

997
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll put, We'll put when you're hiring bloggers to

998
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 2: attack people and things like that, like yeah, yeah, you

999
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 2: got to say that there's some crazy people out there. Man.

1000
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 2: Some of the things that I have witnessed in the

1001
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 2: last year and a half on what was being done

1002
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 2: behind the scenes to tarnish me and evidence improved, I'm

1003
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 2: still like, whoa, I feel like I'm part of I

1004
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 2: want to make a documentary. That's my next thing. I

1005
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 2: want to film a documentary next.

1006
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 1: Yeah you MANU will tune in?

1007
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,240
Speaker 2: Yeah right, probably right.

1008
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 1: Well, maybe the house franchise will come up with the

1009
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: Real House Husbands of New Jersey and the Real House

1010
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 1: Husbands of Orange County and the Real House Husbands of

1011
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills, and we'll have our own show.

1012
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 2: You would not believe how many viewers want to see

1013
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 2: a Guys trip. Man. I get told all the time

1014
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 2: I hear about it. I don't know why Bravo hasn't

1015
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 2: done it. I mean, it's it's very apparent that they

1016
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 2: want to see it, so I would just I mean,

1017
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 2: it doesn't make any sense as a business not to say, hey,

1018
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 2: let's go and do two or three days of film

1019
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 2: and let's see how this does as a pilot. I

1020
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 2: think it would make a lot of sense bringing a

1021
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 2: lot of the guys from the franchises together and having fun.

1022
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, that could be fun. That could be a

1023
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 1: lot of fun. But it goes back to my point.

1024
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 1: You know, the Real House that's of Orange County. It's

1025
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: really a woman's show, a female show. And you know,

1026
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 1: I won't leave the gays out because it's a show

1027
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 1: for them too. But most mature male, like business driven guys,

1028
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 1: they don't sit and watch this show. You know, most

1029
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: of the guys don't.

1030
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 2: So you would think that I had the biggest biker

1031
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 2: in ac come up to me a Hell's Angels. My

1032
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 2: man was huge. Wow, And I'm like, you watch it? Yeah, man, yeah, yeah,

1033
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:39,359
Speaker 2: I love that shit.

1034
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 3: The wives make them watch it.

1035
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 2: You shocked, man, how many guys that actually watched the

1036
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 2: show addicted?

1037
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 3: Once you start watching it, like, you gotta be careful,

1038
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 3: Like I always tell friends, like, I know, you want

1039
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 3: to watch one episode, you're gonna get hooked on it.

1040
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I do have had that experience John as well,

1041
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 1: where Burley guys and and even you know in the beginning.

1042
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: I told the story in the beginning of our podcast

1043
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 1: as well. When we first started dating and we went

1044
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: to watch What Happens in New York and we were

1045
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:12,720
Speaker 1: walking down the Broadway or something. A big fire truck

1046
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 1: passed by and they noticed camera, and then they put

1047
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 1: two and two together and they started going crazy, we

1048
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: love Yeah, And I turned around and I'm like, the

1049
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 1: Fireman watch you.

1050
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 2: Reality check? Right? Yeah? Oh my god. I didn't realize that.

1051
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:31,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, I personally can't sit and watch

1052
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: all the cattiness and the fighting and all that. I

1053
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 1: do find it interesting. It's quite a phenomenon that this

1054
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: show has lasted this long. That's more intriguing to me, Like,

1055
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:45,280
Speaker 1: how did this show have such long longevity and duration?

1056
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 1: And god knows how much money it's generated, you know

1057
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:52,399
Speaker 1: in the last what is it, almost twenty years. That's

1058
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 1: more interesting to me than you know, who's fighting with

1059
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,240
Speaker 1: who and who's calling who out? And you know who's

1060
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 1: the criminal this season? You know, it's just right.

1061
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 2: Endless. Yeah, there's always been to be families, There's always

1062
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 2: gonna be something.

1063
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 1: So yeah, I get it. Always the stery to tell.

1064
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 2: That's it, man, You know, there really is and I

1065
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 2: think there's a lot of life left and off. You know,

1066
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 2: as a photo family, we have a lot going on.

1067
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:23,879
Speaker 2: You know that they're missing unfortunately.

1068
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So the show's on pause, right your show?

1069
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, pause or whatever they want to call it. Pause.

1070
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.

1071
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 1: I only hear this through my wife because she tells

1072
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 1: me a little bit what's going on over there. And

1073
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: then I just saw Joe in New York and he

1074
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 1: was telling me it's on pause. So well, you know,

1075
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: I wish you guys luck. I hope the show comes

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Speaker 1: back because Jersey is one of the most entertaining, because

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Speaker 1: the guys and the girls are both entertaining, and I

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Speaker 1: think the viewers would be really lost if they didn't

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Speaker 1: have Jersey. So I hope you guys come back and

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Speaker 1: they clean up the show.

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Speaker 2: Agreed, Let's see Man from your Mouth and God's Ears,

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Speaker 2: Let's see what happens. John.

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Speaker 1: It was great catching up to you and having you

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Speaker 1: on the pod. It's been a pleasure. I look forward

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Speaker 1: to catching up next time I see you.

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Speaker 2: All right, guys, it was a pleasure being on. Let

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Speaker 2: me know if there's any questions you

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Speaker 1: Guys have after awesome awesome, I'll see you guys later

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Speaker 1: Thanks John, have a good one.