1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,239 Speaker 1: I listened to the Black Guy Who Tips podcast because 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: Rod and Karen are hot. 3 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 2: Show you bitches how to do this shit? 4 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: Stand back while I demonstrate cousey worths like a million dollars. 5 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 1: I think your nigga dock expensive taste. I'm not a 6 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: bum bitch. I'm a boss bitch. You Sideline, I'm center stage. 7 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 3: I don't even get involved with it. If you don't 8 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 3: make me come, if you don't get me paid. It's 9 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 3: not the money that is goofy gone deal you man 10 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 3: with my on, with my whole team bad bitches and 11 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 3: that little biton our uniform. 12 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 4: Hey, welcome to the Black Houtils Podcast, your host Rod 13 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 4: and Karen. That's right, all my just rolling. We're in 14 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 4: the house on a very special Monday edition of the show. Yes, 15 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 4: I got two of our favorite people on. I don't 16 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 4: think we've ever had them at the same time. No, 17 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 4: which is ironic because we shout you all out all 18 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 4: the time. You know, you guys went on and uh, I. 19 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: Mean I think y'all have Leslie on right after we 20 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: launched Safety Pit Box. 21 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 4: But I was, yeah, okay, yeah, you know, and I 22 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 4: think we you know, we may have reviewed get out 23 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 4: you know, we may have reviewed Get Out Together. 24 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 5: You know, I didn't get so, you know whatever, Thank. 25 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 4: God, thank god, because it would have been she would 26 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 4: have been just pissing all on our party. We had 27 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 4: a good party, laughing at these white folks, and Leslie 28 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 4: would have been like, uh so yeah, man, but you know, 29 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 4: you guys are two of our favorite people. 30 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 6: In the world. 31 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 4: Yes, and we're all happy to have you. But if 32 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 4: you guys out there are living under a rock, I 33 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 4: don't know. It is Leslie and Marissa from the Safety 34 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 4: pin Box, which we talked about the time safetypinbox dot com. 35 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 4: It's a great box for people who want to be 36 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 4: allies and to get educated and to get that monthly 37 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 4: subscription going so that y'all can get some task every 38 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 4: month and go out and actually help change the world 39 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 4: and be a better person, uh, you know, through actions 40 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 4: and not just uh you know, not just talking about it. 41 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 7: How y'all doing for that? 42 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 6: Wait? 43 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: Hold up, say you broke up a little bit I 44 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: said or saying nigger that you could you could get 45 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: Safety box box instead of that? 46 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 6: Can we can we send Bill Maher a Safety pin Box. 47 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: I feel like I literally was just thinking about what 48 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 1: it would be like if we. 49 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 6: Were like on his show, Oh you totally different than 50 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 6: how it went, you know. 51 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,399 Speaker 2: To she was like, I'm not talking about you. I'm 52 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 2: not talking about you. 53 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I'm just. 54 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 2: Talking about aer who likes to say nigger. 55 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 4: I think I think a lot of people wanted uh 56 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 4: n w A or ice Q to be on that, 57 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 4: but we kind of got like, uh not full Disney 58 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 4: ice Cue. 59 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 6: We got like twenty two, we got twenty two jumps. Yeah. 60 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, we got like ride along twenty two Jump Street, 61 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 4: like you know, quasi adorable. 62 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 6: Ice Cube, like you could like not that. 63 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 4: Bill Maher would have arried right, not quite are wearing 64 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 4: before that, but still yeah, like Bill Maher wouldn't have 65 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 4: like pinched his cheeks because that's like when you get full, 66 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 4: when you get full Disney ice Cube, you just want 67 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 4: to like get in there. But he got like, you 68 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 4: know you you would just want to like shake your 69 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 4: head out on ice Cube. 70 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 2: You know. 71 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 4: So he got a stern talking to and I'm sure 72 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 4: his racism is cured so white people. 73 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 6: Can't continue to watch the shirt. 74 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 7: Was it stern? 75 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: Uh? 76 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, it was a stern talking to. Have you ever 77 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 6: seen leave It the Beaver? 78 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 8: Oh? 79 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 6: Wait, you don't. 80 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 2: I'm just trying. 81 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: To think of when my mom gave me a stern 82 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: talking to It was like, now, I know you fucked up, 83 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: but I'm not talking about you. I'm not talking about you, 84 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: but people like hypothetically. 85 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 3: Also, when my mom disciplined me sternly, it didn't start 86 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 3: with telling her that I already heard what she had 87 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 3: to say already, so. 88 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 7: M makes sense. 89 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 4: Now, Well I'm gonna tell you like this, I thought 90 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 4: was the most amazing part of this is uh, I 91 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 4: can continue to be disappointed because my original thought, and 92 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 4: I think most people that are familiar with Bill maher 93 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 4: my original thought was. 94 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 6: Why the fuck would he apologize? 95 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 4: He just gonna double down on that ship like this 96 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 4: all like after that point, after the fact that he apologized, 97 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 4: I immediately was like, Okay, well this what the fuck 98 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 4: is happening right now? 99 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 6: Like I know that this is gonna. 100 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 4: Go way easier for him, because I thought he could 101 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 4: have got away with coming back next week and doing 102 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 4: the whole monologue in blackface and then calling everybody that 103 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 4: didn't laugh pussies and ship like he always does when 104 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 4: people don't think he's funny. He's always like, oh you 105 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 4: guys are liberal and that's why you won't laugh. It's like, 106 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 4: all your shit's not funny. So I thought he was 107 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 4: gonna double down. I can't believe uh he let ice 108 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 4: Q pretend to talk to him like that. 109 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 3: Well that's only because of black Twitter, though, Rod. That's 110 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 3: the difference, right, is that black Twitter is here now 111 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 3: and that changes the landscape and the consequences of folks actions, 112 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 3: especially if they're in a consumable media platform. 113 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 5: So that's the difference. It was was. 114 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I contributed to So I contributed to a few 115 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 4: you know what's wild with it too? 116 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 7: Though? 117 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 4: After all that shit though, like the whole process just 118 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 4: felt like it was about white people. 119 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, the whole time, Like I never got. 120 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 4: Into the whole Like and then it's like, you know, 121 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 4: a number one question white people would ask me when 122 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 4: they would because they would find me via Twitter and be. 123 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 6: Like leave you alone ship now, And they would always 124 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 6: ask like, so are you saying these racists? 125 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 4: And I'm like, oh, you just want me to say 126 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 4: yes or no so you can go back to watching. 127 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 6: You don't give a fuck, like you know what I mean? 128 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 4: If I say yes, you're gonna be like you guys 129 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 4: think everyone's racist. 130 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 6: If I say no, you're like, we didn't leave them alone. 131 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 6: I just won't watch the show. 132 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, you don't give 133 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 4: a fuck about us or any of the stuff he said. 134 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 6: So it just all felt so sad. 135 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 4: And to see all those like black people jump up 136 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 4: in front of it and be like, y'all didn't care 137 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 4: when they took down Abraham Lincoln at the theater And 138 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 4: I'm like, uh, nobody, what are you doing talking about? 139 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, he's not gonna lose his job. 140 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 7: No, And the conversation is never, Oh, go ahead, I'm sorry. 141 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 3: I'll let you into a little secret verson I have learned, 142 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 3: which is that if there's one thing white people are 143 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 3: the worst at, it's not centering themselves. Like they are 144 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 3: almost pathologically incapable of not centering themselves. Even we have 145 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 3: our like like you and a once a month, and 146 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 3: like even the questions they ask. 147 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 5: Will just be like why why why are we still 148 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 5: talking about the white people? 149 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 6: Though yet you know, because their their biggest fear. 150 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 4: I think deep down the question they don't want to 151 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 4: ask what they know is the only question that's relevant 152 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 4: is Okay, so what do I need to do? And 153 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 4: what do I need to give up? And don't nobody 154 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 4: want to get to that point? So you gotta ask, 155 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 4: You gotta hear every fucking question before the before the action, 156 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 4: Like okay, so what all right? 157 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 6: Fuck it? All right, I've been benefiting. 158 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 4: It was racist? What you want me to do? You 159 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 4: want me to stop watching? You want some money? 160 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 6: What was it like? 161 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 4: It's like they started freaking out. You're just like I 162 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 4: was at this dude's racist and fuck him? I was 163 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 4: really That's all I had to add to the conversation. 164 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 7: Yeah, and also I think. 165 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 9: Too, white guilt is a real thing, and white people 166 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 9: don't know how to deal with white guilt. And anybody 167 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 9: in a privileged group just automatically panic whenever it's pointed 168 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 9: out to them. 169 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 7: Like you're wrong for saying that your privileged. 170 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 9: You can acknowledge that your privilege saying okay, yeah I am. 171 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 9: And like you said, the problem comes, now what do 172 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 9: we do? 173 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 6: Yeah? 174 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 9: And it's like, well, you do know that you have 175 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 9: to give something up and you have to look at 176 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 9: things a different light, and that's when you come to 177 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 9: the resistance, and that's it. 178 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 7: It comes to what about me? And that's when you 179 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 7: deal with the white tears, and it's a thing, and 180 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 7: it's a thing. Like I said before, it's a big 181 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 7: ass circle. 182 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 9: And that's why I'm like, I don't get paid to 183 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 9: teach white people how to have compassion about anything other 184 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 9: than whiteness because of a circle, and because every time 185 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 9: you meet a fresh new white person is starting from scratch, 186 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 9: you know, for real, it's like every time you meet 187 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 9: a fresh white person in star Okay, okay, cool, Becky. 188 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 7: Has passed the class. She understands, you know, she still 189 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 7: puck up a little bit. But at least we not 190 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 7: you know, we don't have to cry of a session. 191 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 9: And as soon as you get Backy at the door, 192 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 9: here comes Barbara, and with Barbara hits you got to 193 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 9: go through It's about me, It's about me, what I. 194 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 7: Love you people. You know, you got to go through 195 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 7: the whole thing. And you're like, well, god damn, I'm 196 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 7: not doing this for free. 197 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 9: And that's the thing people want you to do this 198 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 9: across social media. No, no, no, you're not wasting my time. 199 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,839 Speaker 9: You're not mentally breaking me down, spiritually breaking me down. 200 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 7: You're not doing that for free. 201 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 4: And theydn't get mad when you had a nerve to 202 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 4: be like I'm exhausted and I can't do this. They'd 203 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 4: be like, we'll see this why I'm Racist's just like what, Oh, 204 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 4: it's not my fault. 205 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why we had to put everything behind a 206 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: paywall for us. 207 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 2: And it's one directional. So you know, we're. 208 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: Starting to do SPB Live and get out there and 209 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:23,839 Speaker 1: do workshops and stuff. 210 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 2: And Leslie asked me to say you want to do 211 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 2: workshops and say. 212 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 5: Hell no. 213 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: I was like, that's gonna be a solid doll for 214 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: me because my communication with white folks needs to be 215 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: one directional. Right, you can read my shit and you 216 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,319 Speaker 1: can pay me for it, and then we'll give you 217 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: a hour every every month that you can ask me 218 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: questions through my own platform where if you say some function, 219 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: I don't have to respond to it. Like that's the 220 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,559 Speaker 1: only way you're interacting with me. But yeah, I mean 221 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: like here and said, like the script is so predictable. 222 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: That's how we even have a business or a business model. 223 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:04,239 Speaker 1: It's like every white person thinks they're a special snowflake, 224 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 1: but it's like, no, the white supremacy is pathological. Y'all 225 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: believe in pathology, right, And so like the guilt, that's 226 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:15,079 Speaker 1: cute or whatever, but like, uh, your guilt isn't gonna 227 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 1: save us. It's not gonna help us. It's not gonna 228 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: stop bullets. So how do we move past that? You know, 229 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,959 Speaker 1: so you can acknowledge the fuck up, acknowledge the shit 230 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: and change. But it's just hell of funny to me 231 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: because I feel like white folks would be the first 232 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: people to be like, freedom, is it free? 233 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 7: Okay? But you you. 234 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 2: Want this liberation for free? Like, but what do you 235 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 2: what are you really saying? 236 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 4: I don't I can say like I don't like Bill 237 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 4: Maher said house nigga and I'll get freedom of speech. 238 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 6: And I'm like, but was it not using my freedom 239 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 6: of speech? 240 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 3: What? 241 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 6: What does the what does chicken and the egg start here? Dog? 242 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 6: When is it my turn? 243 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 3: I told a joke about you know, allies and the way, 244 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:57,839 Speaker 3: and this squirrel was like, comedy is sacred, but my 245 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 3: joke doesn't count. Like you're out because of a joke 246 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 3: I told. To tell me that comedy is sacred. 247 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 6: You were literally you were literally doing comedy Like it's 248 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 6: literally the irony is just it. It's so much today. 249 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 4: So I found this old article because somebody was saying 250 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 4: someone retweeted me from a long time ago. 251 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 7: Uh. 252 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 6: And I said, if you. 253 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 4: Guys ever want to facetiously but I'm serious, If you 254 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,719 Speaker 4: guys ever want to see the articles that you have 255 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 4: helped contribute to, put your act handle into. 256 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 6: Google and then and then click the news. 257 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 4: The news, like because you know what the topic says, 258 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 4: Like you know, search results are whatever, like uh, you 259 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 4: know videos that click the one that says news. If 260 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 4: you guys are on social media, and you'll see how 261 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 4: many people have used your article, your tweets for their articles, 262 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 4: and it's my mine are the words because half the time, 263 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 4: like it's a joke and they take the joke serious 264 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:02,959 Speaker 4: and they're like people were outraged when Kevin Hard said. 265 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 7: And I'm like, my joke, but you miss the point. 266 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 4: I'm like, my joke was Kevin Hart too short to 267 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,719 Speaker 4: see over that stand? And they're like, wow, they were 268 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 4: really upset in his comments. So like those are like 269 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 4: the worst. But then like occasionally somebody will take like 270 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 4: a string of tweets or something and just like literally 271 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 4: make a whole article. So someone made a whole article 272 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 4: off of uh. And if you people listened to the 273 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 4: show for a while. The episode where we talked about well, 274 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 4: I talked about John Stewart and how he went viral 275 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 4: easier than Trevor Noah and Larry Willmore because he's a 276 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 4: white dude, and regardless of how you feel about funny 277 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 4: and all that other shit, end of the day, white 278 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 4: people feel more comfortable sharing the. 279 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 6: Woke white man. 280 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 7: Uh. 281 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 6: And I wasn't even talking about the funny videos. 282 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 4: I'm talking about the serious ones, the ones like in 283 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 4: the wake of Baltimore riots, in the wake of Mike 284 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 4: Brown getting shot, Like you know, John Stewart's on the air, 285 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 4: and it's always that like solemn, you know, like you know, professorial, 286 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 4: like angry. 287 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 6: He's angry, he's passionate. 288 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 4: There's no jokes for five minutes and the audience, like 289 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 4: the audience is just watching him like perform this grief 290 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 4: and all this shit. And this is not to admonish that, man. 291 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 4: I don't really know it's hard or give a fuck, 292 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 4: but it is. 293 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 5: It was. 294 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 6: It's interesting because that shit gets. 295 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 4: Shared millions of times, like every every website started like 296 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 4: you go on and I'm like, forget just your individuals, 297 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 4: because your individuals get the signal from Raw Story Media, 298 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 4: eyed Facebook, like all these all these corporations go look 299 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 4: at this video, this white man grieving, and then you go, oh. 300 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 6: I gotta share this. This is how I feel. 301 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 4: Black people we all, like all of us feel this way, 302 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 4: and we share this thing, right, and it seems to 303 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 4: be more organic, but it's you know, it's it's a 304 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 4: corporate structure like it. That's how it happens. I was like, 305 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 4: this happens a lot less when it's black people. That's 306 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 4: all I'm saying. If if Trevor Noah I watched The 307 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 4: Daily Show, if he does one of those types of segms, 308 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 4: if he just has a good monologue, less likely to 309 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 4: see that on the front page of places. 310 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 6: Now compared to when it was John Stewart. 311 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 4: Even after John Stewart stopped being so funny and people 312 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 4: stopped watching the show, they would still share it online, 313 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 4: quicker than Trevor Noah and quicker than Larry Wilmore. And 314 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 4: every time this happens, every time I make the statement, 315 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 4: I have to talk to a bunch of white people 316 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 4: who just go, well, I just think John Stewart's funnier 317 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 4: and he's more famous, and that's could not explain everything 318 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 4: you're saying. 319 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 6: I'm like, if you ignored all my words, yes, sure that. 320 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 4: You just want to go back to watching John Stewart 321 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 4: quote unquote and not feeling like you're part of the problem. 322 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what it is is because they see 323 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: themselves in John Stewart. 324 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 2: So when he's saying something, it's like, yeah, this is us. 325 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 2: I'm a good white guy. 326 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: He's representing what my views when it comes from Trevor Noah. 327 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 2: It's against me. 328 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 8: Right. 329 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: Look, That's why I was thinking about why do people 330 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: people I fuck with here in the city. You know 331 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: that I used to be I used to be in 332 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: nanny and I'm still really close to the family that 333 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: I nanny for. But a week before this whole house 334 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: nigga shit, they had posted a photo of them going 335 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: to a. 336 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 2: Bill Mayer's show, and I was like, do I read 337 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 2: them or do I just enjoy with them? 338 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 7: And even though I was. 339 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: Getting to see my little nephews, but I was like 340 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: thinking about, like, why do people why would people call 341 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: themselves liberals? 342 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 2: Like fuck with him? And it's like, because you get 343 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 2: to he you you. 344 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: See yourself in him, and whatever he's able to do, 345 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: you have permission to do so. 346 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 2: If he could say something, if he could say nigga and. 347 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: Not be racist, it's less about John's it's less about 348 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: Bill Maher. 349 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 2: It's more about you, right because now. 350 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: That means the racist shit that you do is cool, 351 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: like your Islamophobia is cool. 352 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 7: Your shit. 353 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: You could still call yourself liberal while pretty much acting 354 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: just like fucking GOP because you call yourself liberal, like 355 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: that's all cool, But it's not the same coming from 356 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: Trevor Noah because that's not you. 357 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 2: And you know what was. 358 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: Interesting, Lesliell probably talk about this a little bit more, 359 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: but we just we finished we filmed a segment with 360 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: The Daily Show which we called in the Show you 361 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: know yes, and uh Roywood Junior was telling us some 362 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: real shit about how even how white folks receive shit 363 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: from Trevor versus Black American comedians exactly. 364 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 2: It's different. 365 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 6: It's levels to the ship in general. 366 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 4: Like I remember when people were going in on Trevor 367 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 4: Know about the Tommy Lauren interview, and I was like, well, 368 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 4: the reason Trevor Noah got that job is because he's 369 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 4: a kind of dude that's gonna want to do the 370 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 4: Tommy Lauren interview. They don't. They don't give the nigga. 371 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 4: That's like, nah, fuck that they don't get that dude 372 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 4: the job. That dude never gets the job. Like if 373 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 4: he gets the job, he don't get to keep the 374 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 4: job very long. Shout out to Larry Wilmore, you know 375 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 4: what I mean, Like the kind of person that's like, 376 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 4: I would never invite my law on my program. 377 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 6: I don't know what the fuck Bill Maher is doing. 378 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 6: That kind of dude. You don't get to keep the 379 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 6: job long, man. 380 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 4: Cause you gotta be willing to like see something worthwhile 381 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 4: in every fucking type of opinion of person or else 382 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 4: you can't have the job. So yeah, it is interesting 383 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 4: because I think Roywood Junior would be a great host. 384 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:08,640 Speaker 6: And I'm not trying to start no shit. 385 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 4: Obviously we love Roy been on the show before all 386 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 4: that stuff. But I don't know that America would accept 387 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 4: Roy Wood Jr. As the older American black host that's 388 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 4: experienced American racism and it's not sitting around being like 389 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 4: maybe we can just talk it out and give it, 390 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 4: give it a chance. Everybody I just got here, like, nah, nigga, 391 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 4: they're not giving him a chance. Like so yeah, I 392 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 4: completely they put. 393 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 3: Like a Steve Harvey in right, that's the comfort of 394 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 3: older black comedian that white people feel it is palatable 395 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 3: for them. That doesn't make them feel quote unquote uncomfortable. 396 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 3: And when you were talking about the viability of John 397 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 3: Stewart versus Larry and versus Trevor, the other part of 398 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 3: it is these news outlets and these content creators and 399 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 3: people that aggregate stuff. You know, they see a white 400 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 3: face as the normative. So when John Stewart said something, 401 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 3: it's news, right, But when Larry Wilmore or Trevor Noa say, 402 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 3: it's black people talking, and that's a different category to 403 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 3: that black problem. 404 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 5: This is the normative. 405 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 3: And so that shit is stuff everybody wants to know, 406 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 3: and this other shit is black. 407 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 5: Shit, and only black people want to know about that. 408 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:16,439 Speaker 3: So we don't need to cover it in our stuff, 409 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 3: and it certainly should be on the frontage, because why 410 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:19,959 Speaker 3: would anybody want to see on the front page. We 411 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 3: only said we only do the norm We only do 412 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 3: the stuff that appeals to everybody, and to them, that's 413 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 3: white dude, that's what you get. 414 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 4: The dude that picked up on it today on our 415 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 4: friends Facebook page, that I just happened to be tagged 416 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 4: at a status. He was going through all the you know, 417 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 4: the historiotics. George Stewart's more funny and famous and that 418 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 4: maybe that explains it. 419 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 6: And I'm like, no, I already addressed this. 420 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 4: If you read what I said that that was like 421 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 4: the first thing I said was, this isn't about who's 422 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 4: funny or famous. This is about like the corporate structure 423 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 4: of sharing something, period, nothing else, just how does something 424 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 4: go viral? And we and we have to go out 425 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,919 Speaker 4: through this insecurities and all this shit, and you know, 426 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 4: this is somebody else's friends. So I don't want to 427 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 4: just be like, listen, although I I'm probably gonna get 428 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 4: banned again because I did say white liberals are useless 429 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 4: a few times. 430 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: Hey, I forgot to say welcome, welcome to I didn't 431 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: know that in. 432 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 6: This club. 433 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 9: Several people you even am out here, Yeah you got 434 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 9: banned and christ you know, Chris, I. 435 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 7: Think they get bad one time. I'm not sure. 436 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 6: I'm not trying to say. I'm not trying. 437 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 4: I'm not trying to say no brothers got band. I'm 438 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 4: saying from the people I know, it's all black women. 439 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 6: And then somehow they just got my ass. I don't 440 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 6: know you. 441 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 4: It's like I was just hanging out at the Black 442 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 4: Women's House and the fucking the at f R. 443 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 6: Yeah I was. The FDA came through, found drugs under 444 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 6: the couch. 445 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 4: It was like everybody going to jail, and I'm like, 446 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 4: I was just hanging out with my friends. 447 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 6: It was like, nigga, you live here too, Now let's go. 448 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 6: I got kicked out. 449 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,239 Speaker 7: They was like, oh, first time, twenty four hour. 450 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 4: Second time, nigga, we got you for three days, right, 451 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 4: so it's my second time. 452 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 6: Man, I don't even know what I'll be. 453 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 7: I mean, why don't we get on the band movie? 454 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: I mean, you'd be bragging about your blue check. But 455 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: are you on the list that me and Leslie are on? 456 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 5: Leslie? 457 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 6: What list is that? 458 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 5: So we don't get banned? 459 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 4: No more bitches that's on that list? 460 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 7: Yeah? 461 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 3: I haven't got banned that one time, like tech Crunch 462 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 3: wrote an article about it, whole bunch of there's like 463 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 3: three articles about it, and it was like, oh shit, 464 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 3: I'm so sorry. And ever since then, like I'm occasionally 465 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 3: I'll get a thing like. 466 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,439 Speaker 5: We reviewed this by accident, and it's fine. 467 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 3: I get those messages every now and then, but they 468 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 3: haven't banned me, and I've been trying. 469 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 5: I've been saying, well, you know, I think they. 470 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: Didn't even write the article about me. Y'all know I'd 471 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,199 Speaker 1: be reckless out on these Facebook streets. I haven't got 472 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: banned since before Safety Pitbox. So I'm just out here 473 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: like a white person, just wilding. People were like, you're 474 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 1: gonna get banned, and I never get banned. 475 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 2: I'm like, this is the life, yo. 476 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: I love it. 477 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 4: I think it might be because my paper clip Box 478 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 4: isn't really going as well as I thought it would 479 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 4: be going. 480 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 6: We tried, and a lot. 481 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 5: Of the I thought you were going to be like 482 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 5: we have five million, it's just. 483 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 6: Not getting off the ground. 484 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 4: Like a lot of my subscribers, like they're not really 485 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 4: doing any of the actions that I have for them, 486 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 4: which is mostly just to send us money and the 487 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 4: boys drinks and stuff. But you know, like beyond that, 488 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 4: we're not getting a lot of interaction, and they don't 489 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 4: really seem to be like we lose a lot of 490 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 4: subscribers when like Bill Marsay's house Nigga, and we're like 491 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 4: that's bad, and then my scribs be like U subscribe, 492 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 4: we disagree. 493 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 6: So it's a little bit different for us, I know. 494 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 9: I mean if we've been on TV too, I mean 495 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 9: how I mean, what what is the standard? 496 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 7: Hill? 497 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 4: I actually just got an email before we went on 498 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,479 Speaker 4: the air, were about to be on TV again because uh, 499 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 4: there we are and all that stuff on Revote con. 500 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:48,880 Speaker 6: I'll try to. 501 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 7: Put the people miss it the first time. A lot 502 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 7: of people were mad. 503 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'll try to put the schedule out there for everybody, guys. 504 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:54,120 Speaker 7: But. 505 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 5: Out here in the middle of Michigan, out here. 506 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,439 Speaker 9: And the funny part about it is while we was 507 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 9: woming up, somebody would say, I saw you on TV 508 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 9: And I said what I said, who you saw to 509 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 9: look like me? 510 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 6: It was like, yeah, you was on Revoke concent. 511 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 7: Oh yeah that was me, my bad man. 512 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 1: They're like, oh wait a second, am I just like 513 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 1: because I was. 514 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 7: Like, I was like, you ain't see this nigga on TV? 515 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 2: Me out here gaslighting? 516 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 5: Folks don't ask. 517 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 4: So how has a safety payment Box been going for 518 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 4: you guys since we since y'all launched it? 519 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 6: Man's I mean, you guys are still going strong. We are. 520 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 3: We are pedal to the meadow, working hard on these streets. 521 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:44,199 Speaker 6: I mean, I. 522 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 4: Like, like low key behind the scenes, like I was 523 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 4: just like hitting them on Facebook messages like hey, y'all 524 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 4: try to come on our show soon. They was like, 525 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 4: have you talked to the assistant? And I was like, oh, oh, 526 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 4: oh they got people now. I'm sorry. I thought I 527 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 4: didn't go through. That's my bad, Okay. I would never 528 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 4: disrespect Eva, you know. Then they rolled up the limo 529 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 4: window on me and skated off, and I was like, 530 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 4: you know what, y'all, yeah, you know. I turned around 531 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 4: to the young kids in the neighborhood was like, yeah, 532 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 4: I used to know them back when. 533 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 7: Listen. 534 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 2: So here's the thing. This is true with all black 535 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 2: women in general. 536 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 1: But you know, when we watched shafetep in boxes, just 537 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: like we're just like, oh, let's start this thing. Let's 538 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: see we get a little bit of money, and it 539 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 1: like blew up right Like I went full time. 540 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 2: Back in February Leslie too. 541 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 1: And I think people were looking from the outside were like, Wow, 542 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: they're doing so many things. 543 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 2: How are they getting all done. 544 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: I think what people didn't know from the outside was, uh, 545 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: that thing that got delivered got finished like two minutes 546 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 1: before it got delivered, Like everything was like coming down 547 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: to the wire, just. 548 00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 10: Like wall bullets, Like we're in two different time zones, 549 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 10: were like missing stuff like and the crazy thing about 550 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 10: our businesses we sell things before we actually produced. 551 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: Them, right, So like our first round of boxes. 552 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 2: We had sold all these boxes, we ain't written no content. 553 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 5: We don't know where we're. 554 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 2: Getting boxes from. 555 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 1: So like for the first like three months or whatever, 556 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: it was just literally like living on a prayer and 557 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: and everybody was like, oh, you guys got all together. 558 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 2: Really we were just like dying. 559 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 1: And so I went on vacation in April, and the 560 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: day I left on vacation was like in the. 561 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 2: Airport leaving a vacation, I said, Lesa's. 562 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I've been thinking about you know, maybe we 563 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,880 Speaker 1: should hire somebody's. I was like, hire them immediately, don't 564 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: even wait till I get back. 565 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 7: You better have. 566 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:48,360 Speaker 1: Somebody back, Like this is crazy, give them my email address. 567 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: And Leslie hired someone within the next few days Page 568 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: who is amazing, who's our assistant. And she's like way 569 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 1: better than either either of us at like getting things 570 00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 1: actually done and staying on track. 571 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 2: So she's like really amazing. 572 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,679 Speaker 1: But so now we're just like a little bit more 573 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 1: on top of it. 574 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 2: We don't have to be like, oh, shoot, we're doing 575 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 2: a Q and A tonight or. 576 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 7: Like I like that. 577 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,679 Speaker 4: My favorite part is that the tightrope that y'all were 578 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 4: watching walking is that uh, so many people were just 579 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 4: hoping hope y'all would fail or fuck up so they 580 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 4: could be like I told you, these motherfuckers ain't worth it. 581 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 4: Look at look at how they do you you give them, 582 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 4: you get these black people, your money. 583 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 7: Is a scam. 584 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 4: They got us, you know, like they couldn't wait. And 585 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 4: I liked that y'all were just barely holding it together, 586 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 4: but y'all made it look so smooth and easy that 587 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 4: they were just like, damn, we can't even hate. I 588 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 4: got my box on time, like I know, like I 589 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,360 Speaker 4: know at least like twenty five percent of y'all boxes 590 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 4: was hate boxes and people being like, I can't wait 591 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 4: for this shit to be a second late because I'm 592 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,919 Speaker 4: almost going to the ass on Twitter and it showed up. 593 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 4: That's like, fuck, I gotta go talk. 594 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 6: To these gold children. Goddamnit true. 595 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 3: And it's like, I mean, we've been releasing these products 596 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 3: with just sent out our kids boxes, which is. 597 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 5: Really cool for families to do this summer. 598 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,199 Speaker 3: Some amazing content that Marissa wrote, and yeah, we just 599 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 3: got those boxes out last week and I sent Marissa 600 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 3: a picture all of them sitting outside. I go, girl, 601 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 3: we barely barely a deadline because I was really like, 602 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 3: oh oh no, and we saw I think we have 603 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 3: one box left, Like we come. I ordered like just 604 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 3: enough to get us to where we needed to get to. 605 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 5: But you know, it's working. 606 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 2: But you know what, we we kind of sit here 607 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 2: and we joke. 608 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: But I will say this, Leslie and I both as individuals, 609 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,239 Speaker 1: are exceptional in our craft and in our work, and 610 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 1: together as a team and with the rest of our team, 611 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: why people. 612 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 2: Stay even through the hiccups or whatever is We. 613 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 1: Produce dope ass content and honestly, we're doing some work 614 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: that nobody else is interested in doing. You know, for 615 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 1: all the shit and the conversations that people were having 616 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: with the presidential election, I still got I got mentioned 617 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: in an article that was in the World Post like 618 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: two days ago with Bernie Sanders and some shit, and 619 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: they're still talking about, uh, he handed the MC to 620 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: Black Lives Matter, all kinds of revisionist bullshit, you know, 621 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 1: But for all of that, like what have what has 622 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: anybody really done since November? Like people are not really 623 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 1: serious about, you know, a large part of what they're doing, 624 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,439 Speaker 1: and so it's like if you're actually hungry to do work, 625 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 1: to do something, to be engaged, people are like, yes, 626 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: I'm here, And what's been interesting that me and Leslie 627 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: like did not really foresee because we're just really trying 628 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: to get these coins for these black women and that's 629 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 1: our primary goal. Is if you talk to our subscribers, 630 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: they're gonna tell you, Wow, this has like changed my life, 631 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: Like for real, this has changed me life. 632 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 2: This is like helping me regain humanity. This is like 633 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 2: changing my relationships with people. 634 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: This is helping me parents better, Like this is helping 635 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 1: me be a more compassionate person. 636 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 2: Like all of this kind of stuff. 637 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 1: So, I mean the details and the last minute details 638 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: and the nuts of bolt, you know, we scraped those in. 639 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 1: But it's also that you know, we've been able to 640 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: come together and put and create a sort of structure 641 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: where we can put our knowledge and expertise in a 642 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 1: way that works for black folks and can push white 643 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 1: folks at the same time, and unfortunately. Just my opinion 644 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: is like nobody else is really interested in doing. 645 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 2: That right now, and it's a work No. 646 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 6: I agree. 647 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 4: I think a lot of people are more interested in 648 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 4: like seasoned political power, who can they like vote for 649 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 4: next and stuff and that For the record, I'm not 650 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 4: demeaning those things. Is you should be looking forward to 651 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 4: those things. Those are also ways to change things and whatnot. 652 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 4: But yeah, it does feel like the energy is less 653 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 4: about the like let's go shut down the airport now, 654 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 4: and more like let's go to the. 655 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 6: Next Bernie talk at the town hall, meaning like. 656 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 4: It's kind of switched over to other shit and people 657 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 4: are back to arguing like Bernie versus Hillary, And you know, 658 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 4: how is this. 659 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 2: Still a conversation all y'all need than myself. 660 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 5: I just had a whole Twitter thread about it a 661 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 5: couple of days ago. 662 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 3: You know, for us, Marissa said, like, we've only just 663 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 3: been focused on getting this money to Cardoon for black women. 664 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 5: You know, we're coming up. 665 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 3: On around seventy thousand dollars that we've given away since 666 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 3: we launched, and wonderful that's always been. 667 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: Okay, pause post, that's what all the niggas who call 668 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: this scammers leave saying dragging our name through the mud, 669 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: talking about who's gonna give away what money? Since the 670 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: day we gave away money, guess how many scam tweets 671 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: we've had. 672 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 2: That many? That many? 673 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 4: Wow, I was gonna say seven, So I was way off. 674 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 4: Oh I'm sorry. 675 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 3: No, I'm just saying, like, for us, that's been kind 676 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 3: of the push and because we do need to have material, 677 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 3: you know, progress in our minds anyways for the work 678 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 3: that we do, and it can't be tied into what 679 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 3: white people do, right, that's just stupid. As black folks, 680 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 3: we can never hitch any success we want to have 681 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 3: to how white people are going to behave because white 682 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 3: supremacy interrupts that particular transaction on the regular. 683 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 6: Right. 684 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 5: So for us, it's always been. 685 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 3: About how much money we can move over to black women, 686 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 3: how what kind of company we're trying to build, how 687 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 3: we treat the people that work with and for us. 688 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 3: You know, we pay every black woman that touches safety 689 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 3: pin box. We built an incredible team. Our lawyer is black, 690 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 3: our accountant is black, our photographers black black women, All 691 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 3: black women are you know, customer service person is a 692 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 3: black women. Our sistant is a black woman. Our marketing 693 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 3: person is a black woman. You know, We're just really 694 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:40,719 Speaker 3: focused on making sure that we are spreading the safety 695 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 3: pin Box Bounty to as many black women as we 696 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 3: possibly can. And so that's what that's been really exciting 697 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 3: for both of us. 698 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 6: And really over there. 699 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 4: The forming your Own Door millitay over there, just a 700 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 4: team of badass black women out here taking care of shit. 701 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 2: But did you wait, did you hear the news though 702 00:30:58,080 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 2: that they're canceling. 703 00:30:59,240 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: Uh? 704 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 4: The spinoff was the Black Panther and the crew. Oh, 705 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 4: the castling world will kind of yeah, world of. 706 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: Kind of that Karen was just talking about because I 707 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 1: was listening to it. I was listening to the episode, 708 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: y'all's episode on my hike. Were y'all talking about Black Panther. 709 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: I'm just like in the woods and ship and then 710 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 1: I read I think this morning wow something like that 711 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 1: that they mixed it. 712 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 4: No I had I hadn't heard that. That's sad news man, 713 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 4: you know, not even gonna do the whole rant, but 714 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 4: just uh, it's important for people out there don't just 715 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 4: talk about these books. 716 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 6: Don't just say oh this is dope, we got this artist. 717 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 4: You do have to buy the books, because if we 718 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 4: don't buy the books, that's that's the only fucking thing 719 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 4: they care about. 720 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 6: They don't care about ship. 721 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 4: Else that we're like that, like it's a mistake to 722 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 4: think and I mean this for the fucking Republican like 723 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 4: I hate you, h J. W. Cooks, it's a mistake 724 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 4: for anybody them and people that are like liberal don't 725 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 4: think these businesses have politics. They don't give a fuck 726 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 4: about any of this shit. They only care about if 727 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 4: they can move this unit. And right now, the way 728 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 4: for a lot of stuff is like Black Lives Matter, 729 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 4: it's black feminism, Like people are cashing in on this shit, 730 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 4: so they might give some dip a toe in the water, 731 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 4: but if nobody supports it's not gonna happen. And if 732 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 4: we say we want to see black artists that you know, 733 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 4: get chances at these companies, then we do have to 734 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 4: support them because and I don't say that to blame anybody. 735 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 4: I'm saying because the reality is white people ain't never 736 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 4: gonna do it. So it's only us, but for us, 737 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 4: by us or nobody else. 738 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: So and I only reason I think the group covered 739 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: it this morning and said that that they had low sales, 740 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 1: but that some people are arguing that they didn't give 741 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: enough time or whatever for it to build this audience. 742 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 4: Well, the other thing is, and this is also notchade, 743 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 4: but people only read that Black Panther book because coachs 744 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 4: write it. Like if that would have been somebody else, 745 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 4: they wouldn't have wrote it. 746 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 6: So, I mean, they wouldn't read it. 747 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 4: So that's the reason that book sells is regardless of 748 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 4: anything else. 749 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 6: White people love. 750 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 4: Coach Dog like that ain't that's not a knock to him. 751 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 4: I don't really think to the most part, I don't 752 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 4: even think you can really can control when they decide 753 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 4: you the nigga, you know, like white people love Kevin 754 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 4: Hart like, but I don't know why. Like, well, until 755 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 4: last year, Kevin had never really said nothing to make 756 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 4: white people need to love him more than any other nigga. 757 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 4: They just decided, like this is the guy anyway funck 758 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 4: out other funny black people, you know. So they decided 759 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 4: that with Coach like two three years ago. And I 760 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 4: think when Marvel getting him was a huge deal. But yeah, 761 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 4: if it doesn't extend beyond to like rock saying gay 762 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 4: and you know, the artists and the other storylines that 763 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 4: cover black characters. Then it's not real, you know what 764 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 4: I mean. You don't really care. You just want to like, 765 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 4: I get to get a wop pin. I like safety, 766 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 4: I like uh, I like to of Hockey Coast guys. 767 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 6: So yeah, I think that's what happened. All right. 768 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 4: We have all kinds of stuff to get into, guys. 769 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,399 Speaker 4: All right, we've just been talking and enjoying ourselves. There's 770 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,399 Speaker 4: no need to pollo us. I enjoyed talking to y'all. 771 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 6: There's all kinds of news and stuff. And actually, you 772 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,759 Speaker 6: know what, before we even go on first thing, I 773 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 6: did want to say, you. 774 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 4: Know, I listen to Black Hotels all that shit, Bulletball straight. 775 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 1: So uh, this nigga's in the instro like Bill Maget 776 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: is apology. 777 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,839 Speaker 6: You guys know, you guys know at this point I'm selling. 778 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 6: I did. 779 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 4: I did want to say, Man, we had like some 780 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,359 Speaker 4: stuff happened with the Facebook group and shit, and I've 781 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 4: been thinking about it. It's been bothering me for a while. 782 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 4: It's people that know that I'm like the moderator of 783 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 4: the Facebook group of twenty two hundred people. It's been 784 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:02,360 Speaker 4: a fucking burden or a minute, so we're like exploring the 785 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 4: options of like moderators or something like that, because it 786 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 4: was either that or just fucking deleade the group to 787 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 4: be honest, child, and I would hate to do that 788 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 4: because people have talked about the progress they made, the 789 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 4: friendships they made, the you know, like everything. I swear 790 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 4: to God every time I get ready to just be like, man, 791 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 4: fuck that shit, I'm just deleting it. I don't care 792 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 4: about this. Every single time I go in there and 793 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 4: I see something do I'm like, you know, like today 794 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:32,400 Speaker 4: with some woman that had like her her kid or 795 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:33,799 Speaker 4: it's like I don't know if it's a kid or 796 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 4: like her family like nephew or something. Is like he's 797 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 4: an interracial cow and he's in this town where they 798 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 4: don't have anybody take care of his hair, like he 799 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,439 Speaker 4: is the brown person in town, you know what I mean. 800 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 4: And I just watched this group of black women come 801 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 4: through just on some like girl, listen, let me tell 802 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 4: you what you need to do with that shit, and like, 803 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. It's like for those that 804 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,359 Speaker 4: watch this is Us, it was like when the black 805 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 4: women took uh, yeah, when she took Randall to the side, 806 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,399 Speaker 4: it was like excuse me before you take your ass 807 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 4: back over there, though. 808 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 6: You're gonna need to do something about that baby hair. 809 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 4: But it was just like a moment where you're like, 810 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 4: that's a real ass moment that has to happen, and 811 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,400 Speaker 4: I don't know that that would have happened for her outside. 812 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,399 Speaker 4: Like I was happy and proud to see that. So 813 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 4: we're gonna figure something out with the group, whether it's moderators, 814 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 4: possibly even at some point just handing the group over. 815 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 4: I think it would be dope to just have the 816 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 4: fans run it for the fans, because honestly, y'all, I 817 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 4: don't need to know what y'all think about us, like 818 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 4: like like point point blank, I am not designed to 819 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 4: see motherfuckers talking bad about me, and especially in a 820 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:56,719 Speaker 4: group we created for a podcast that we created, well motherfuckers, 821 00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,799 Speaker 4: like motherfuckers wouldn't have come together if not for us. 822 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,799 Speaker 4: So to then be like salty with me because I 823 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 4: was like, yeah, well, you can't be in here calling 824 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 4: people uh slut buddies or whatever the fuck it is 825 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 4: this week. You can't do that, man, that's kind of disrespectful. 826 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 4: And then be like fuck Rod, fuck everybody forever, like 827 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 4: that's not no one else is doing that, Like you 828 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 4: ain't never you can't do that. 829 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 6: The crystals, Like you can't. 830 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:26,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're gonna get to just roll up on other 831 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:27,279 Speaker 4: hosts like that. 832 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 6: Like you know, people are salty at me, and. 833 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,839 Speaker 4: It's been months and sometimes years, and I'm like, this 834 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 4: is thankless for me, you know what I mean, Like 835 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,760 Speaker 4: it doesn't generate any money for us to have that group. 836 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,320 Speaker 6: It's on a platform that can kick. 837 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 4: Me off at whill for being like these white people 838 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:44,840 Speaker 4: is crazy, Like. 839 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 7: And I'm the only one that's running it. And then y'all, 840 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 7: I'm y'all, motherfuckers don't wrote me running beat you. 841 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:54,880 Speaker 4: Rockets, right, So it's kind of a thankless task anyway. 842 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 4: So I'm you know, my and like I said, it 843 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 4: stressed me out. And then like I'm dealing with other 844 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 4: shit where like we're about to travel, We're about to 845 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 4: do negro Con this week. I'm arranging all that shit. 846 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 4: You know, people want to meet us, Like we're gonna 847 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 4: be there for four or five days, and it feels 848 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 4: like everybody's like, yeah, you gotta come minutes spel, I 849 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:13,440 Speaker 4: gotta come hang out with y'all. 850 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 2: You know. 851 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 4: So like I'm coordinating all this shit in my head 852 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,319 Speaker 4: and I don't have time to come in and be like, hey, guys, hey, hey, 853 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,879 Speaker 4: don't call her sweat and you stop calling people bitch 854 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 4: like it's just too much for. 855 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 6: One person to do. 856 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,239 Speaker 4: And that's you know, like, and I think we have 857 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 4: a great group to compare to other groups I've seen. 858 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,439 Speaker 6: But even right, but. 859 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,239 Speaker 4: Even with all that shit, I just I can't do it. 860 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 4: And I'm not designed to do it. 861 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 6: I don't. I barely like people. 862 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 7: Like. 863 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 4: People were saying, like, can you pick some y'all you 864 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,799 Speaker 4: and Karen should pick the moderators y'all want, And I 865 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 4: was like, y'all should probably pick because. 866 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 6: I don't like. 867 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 4: I don't like people like that, like I don't have 868 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,440 Speaker 4: like it's amazing. 869 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,319 Speaker 6: People got mad at me and said Rod comes in, 870 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 6: he picks his phase, which one? Who are the phaves? 871 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:02,319 Speaker 9: Like? 872 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:03,839 Speaker 6: You know what I mean? 873 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:05,760 Speaker 4: If I can't pick you out a lineup, we can't 874 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 4: be phased, dog, if we never met, we can't be phased. 875 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 4: If if I see two people arguing and I just 876 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 4: go this person seems wrong, that person seems right, that's it, 877 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,360 Speaker 4: you know. I try to have respect and see people's 878 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 4: humanity despite their grievances and shit, and even the people 879 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,759 Speaker 4: that you know. But it just it made me think 880 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,839 Speaker 4: this weekend when I was like because I was sad 881 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,919 Speaker 4: about it, I was depressed, and I was like, wait 882 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 4: a minute. It's a group that's supposed to be about 883 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 4: loving what we do and I'm sitting here thinking about 884 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:38,360 Speaker 4: how motherfuckers don't like me in the group for us. 885 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,480 Speaker 7: Right and and and my thing is this. 886 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 9: Le'm gonna tell y'all right now, you know Roger is 887 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:45,640 Speaker 9: very diplomatic. 888 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 7: Roger, you're on the top of y'all. Yah. Yah, I 889 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,439 Speaker 7: ain't got time for that bullshit. We do not get 890 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:51,399 Speaker 7: paid to run this group. 891 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:51,840 Speaker 5: Y'all. 892 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,239 Speaker 9: The problems y'all have in this group our personal problem. 893 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 9: Y'all bring y'all personal problems into this group, and y'all 894 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,800 Speaker 9: follow out richel. Y'all do know y'all talk to real people. 895 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,279 Speaker 9: Y'all do know that y'all might meet these people one day. 896 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,480 Speaker 9: Y'all do know we have functions of y'all show up. 897 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 9: We don't want y'all out there showing y'all black asses 898 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 9: at our functions. Y'all represent us, right, And I'm creeping 899 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:13,480 Speaker 9: it ric because I know I've been kind of quiet 900 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 9: on it and I haven't said anything about it. So 901 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 9: now it's my time to talk, cause you know Roger's 902 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 9: been stressed out. Y'all not gonna stress my husband. Now, 903 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:21,920 Speaker 9: I'm gonna keep rid. Y'all do know that this is 904 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,720 Speaker 9: my husband. I got to live here with my husband. 905 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,920 Speaker 9: Y'all not gonna stress it out by a fucking Facebook group. 906 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:28,799 Speaker 7: It's not that goddamn important. Let me tell you that 907 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 7: right now. Okay, you're ground. 908 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,320 Speaker 9: Everybody in this group is a fucking grown ass adult. 909 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 7: You're grown. Some of you got children. You're grown people. 910 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 9: I do not understand how you fight and bigger like 911 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 9: fucking children. 912 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:42,360 Speaker 7: You're grown. 913 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 9: You will not allow your children to have this same behavior. 914 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 9: You get in there, you fust to fight everybody plant 915 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,239 Speaker 9: of each other, and then you tag us after y'all 916 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,479 Speaker 9: called each other bitch in the holes and slept, after 917 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,359 Speaker 9: y'all have made homophobic shit, And my thing is this 918 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,239 Speaker 9: y'all fight, And then y'all wants to fix the fight. 919 00:40:58,280 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 9: And then when Roger comes in and try to fix 920 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 9: the fight, everybody get mad at Rody trying to fix 921 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,319 Speaker 9: the fight. We ain't got clicks in the group, y'all. 922 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,719 Speaker 9: I'm telling a round. We ain't got clicks. We don't 923 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:08,840 Speaker 9: have games like like, you know, cause people roll with 924 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 9: each other, and that's cool. I don't mind people rolling 925 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:12,920 Speaker 9: with each other. But when your faith fuck up and 926 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 9: get kicked out the group, your faith fucked up and 927 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,799 Speaker 9: they got to lead a group, there's nothing for us 928 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:18,319 Speaker 9: to talk about. 929 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:19,440 Speaker 7: There's nothing for us to discuss. 930 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,280 Speaker 9: I don't care about your faith, dog like we moderate 931 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 9: the group. Y'all are in the group, y'all have a 932 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 9: good time in the group. We don't care about their 933 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:27,400 Speaker 9: having a good time in the group. We don't care 934 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 9: about y'all enjoying. 935 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,280 Speaker 7: The group with. What you're not gonna do is stress 936 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 7: me out for. 937 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 9: Fucking something that's fucking motherfucking for you. Don't make a 938 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 9: goddamn down off that Facebook group. 939 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:39,920 Speaker 4: Right, And then it's weird because like we like, I 940 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,239 Speaker 4: don't even know who listens to the show in there 941 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 4: at this point, because it's like discussions about the show 942 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,120 Speaker 4: don't happen often, you know, Like, and like I said, 943 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:49,840 Speaker 4: I don't mind having a place for cool people to 944 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 4: hang out and collect and all that shit, And I 945 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,120 Speaker 4: you know, I'll try to leave some guidelines or something, 946 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,440 Speaker 4: hand it off to somebody that probably is better equipped 947 00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 4: to deal with that, because I think it wouldn't be 948 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:03,719 Speaker 4: so hard for other people to hear about us, like 949 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:05,799 Speaker 4: like you know me, if you don't like me, I 950 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,000 Speaker 4: just don't want to hear like I don't. I don't 951 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 4: like I don't have a problem with you not liking me. 952 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,319 Speaker 4: People don't like people. That's you know, some of my 953 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,359 Speaker 4: friends don't like each other. Like it ain't like that's 954 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,880 Speaker 4: a thing that happens. I've always kind of existed that 955 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,279 Speaker 4: this like nexus in blackness my whole life, where like 956 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 4: I fuck with these people, they fuck with me. These 957 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,200 Speaker 4: people don't fuck with me, but or they don't fuck 958 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 4: with each other, but they both fuck with me. 959 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:29,080 Speaker 6: Like that's been my whole life. 960 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,960 Speaker 4: It's stressful sometimes and with social media, you see so 961 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,760 Speaker 4: much like I see shit I don't want to see, 962 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:40,359 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like like right like like 963 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,120 Speaker 4: I don't want to see y'all talking shit about me, 964 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:44,560 Speaker 4: Like I don't need to see it. 965 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 6: So, uh, it's just not you know, it's just not 966 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 6: for me. It does affect me. 967 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,480 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna try to pretend to be like unaffected 968 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,920 Speaker 4: or unbothered. I don't feel like there's any strength in that. 969 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:56,919 Speaker 4: But I do find that their strength and honesty, which 970 00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,720 Speaker 4: is it is bugging me, is bothering me, is dragging 971 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:01,200 Speaker 4: me down. 972 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:01,680 Speaker 5: You know. 973 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,120 Speaker 6: It made me sad today, and I'm like, I shouldn't 974 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:04,719 Speaker 6: be sad. 975 00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,280 Speaker 4: Thinking about I don't get sad when I think about 976 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:08,120 Speaker 4: recording and doing the. 977 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,600 Speaker 6: Show, which is what we got here to do. 978 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:12,759 Speaker 4: So, but I do get sad when I think about 979 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:13,600 Speaker 4: the Facebook group. 980 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:13,799 Speaker 9: Man. 981 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:18,719 Speaker 4: I you know, even with like Marissa and Leslie, I'll 982 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,440 Speaker 4: see people try to throw shots at them in it, 983 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,719 Speaker 4: like in the group like where it's like, oh dude, 984 00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:25,759 Speaker 4: you know they always And I'm like, but hold up 985 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:29,880 Speaker 4: now that that's that's phantom, you know what I'm saying. 986 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,319 Speaker 4: That's like coming in my house and being like, oh, 987 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:35,080 Speaker 4: I can't stand your mama. 988 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:36,160 Speaker 6: Like what are you doing? 989 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:37,560 Speaker 7: You know what I mean? 990 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:38,880 Speaker 6: Like, that's like that's fa. 991 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:42,080 Speaker 4: But that's what I realize is y'all might need a 992 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,480 Speaker 4: space for that. That's not right. This isn't like I'm 993 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,920 Speaker 4: trying not to be selfish about it. I don't want 994 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:48,400 Speaker 4: to be a control free like I'm gonna be on 995 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,520 Speaker 4: my page because you know, I don't need anyone on 996 00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:50,920 Speaker 4: my page. 997 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:51,799 Speaker 6: They don't want to be there. 998 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:55,120 Speaker 4: But in that group, maybe y'all need the space to 999 00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 4: be like fuck so and so I don't like this. 1000 00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,319 Speaker 6: I don't like that why they do this. I don't 1001 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:01,400 Speaker 6: need to be privy to it. 1002 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 4: If that space is going to exist, So I think 1003 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:07,680 Speaker 4: I have to check out and let somebody else run it, right, And. 1004 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,799 Speaker 1: I think too, if I could offer just an encouragement 1005 00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:14,560 Speaker 1: to you, rod Is, It's like folks, Black folks connect 1006 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 1: in all kinds of different ways in online, and they're 1007 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,200 Speaker 1: going to do that whether your Facebook group exists or not. 1008 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,040 Speaker 1: Right Like, those people will still be able to find 1009 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,960 Speaker 1: connections and stuff like that, and just don't want that 1010 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:26,880 Speaker 1: to be a burden on you. Right Like we were like, 1011 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,480 Speaker 1: oh I see some shit people coming together or whatever. 1012 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,839 Speaker 1: It's like, uh, we can't ever feel like too much 1013 00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,759 Speaker 1: of that pressure for making that happen is on any 1014 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,200 Speaker 1: of us, right. I think there's a difference between saying like, 1015 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:42,000 Speaker 1: these connections are valuable and good for people to, you know, 1016 00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,480 Speaker 1: to have, versus I have to be the one who's 1017 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,320 Speaker 1: holding all of the emotional energy and the emotional labor 1018 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,719 Speaker 1: for what's happening, and so just just an encouragement of 1019 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,480 Speaker 1: like people find ways to connect, they. 1020 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,640 Speaker 2: Can start their own Facebook group, they can you know whatever. 1021 00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:57,839 Speaker 1: But you also, one of the good things that's been 1022 00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,120 Speaker 1: for me and Lesley in our business, and I know 1023 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,880 Speaker 1: they're totally different, is we've just really stressed for each 1024 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,959 Speaker 1: other and holding each other accountable and prioritizing our own 1025 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,480 Speaker 1: boundaries and well being bright and center. 1026 00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:13,520 Speaker 2: And if some crossing our boundaries, we we we don't. 1027 00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,359 Speaker 1: Do it and we just trust that that people will 1028 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:16,600 Speaker 1: be able to figure out. And you know what the 1029 00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,640 Speaker 1: thing is, people will figure it out. Those people will 1030 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:23,000 Speaker 1: go somewhere else, Like just be real, now, you're right. 1031 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:26,520 Speaker 3: Also, the boundaries piece is really critical, and I there's 1032 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:30,040 Speaker 3: like a real correlation between like how popular you get to. 1033 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:31,759 Speaker 5: How many boundaries you have to draw. 1034 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,560 Speaker 3: And I don't think people like always acknowledge that, you know, 1035 00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,000 Speaker 3: the more people, the more eyeballs you have on you, 1036 00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,960 Speaker 3: the more you know influence and access you have, the 1037 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,000 Speaker 3: more boundaries you need to set because people will take 1038 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:42,960 Speaker 3: all kinds of liberty. 1039 00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:43,360 Speaker 9: You know. 1040 00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:44,960 Speaker 5: I had a conversation with a black. 1041 00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:46,360 Speaker 3: Woman the other day she was saying, you know, I 1042 00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,440 Speaker 3: feel like I should charge for you know, people say 1043 00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:49,920 Speaker 3: they want to pick my brain. I go, there's no 1044 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,359 Speaker 3: picking in my fucking bring without some dollars on the line, 1045 00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,320 Speaker 3: because my time is valuable, right So I have to 1046 00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:58,799 Speaker 3: set boundaries around even those little side conversations that maybe 1047 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,920 Speaker 3: when I first that are organizing, I would do at 1048 00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:02,719 Speaker 3: the drop of a hat because I have other shit 1049 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,120 Speaker 3: to do, right So, and people don't get that, Like 1050 00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,000 Speaker 3: it's hard for them to get that you were joking 1051 00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,000 Speaker 3: earlier about our as system page and you would be 1052 00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:13,160 Speaker 3: surprised how many people like legit get mad when we're like, hey, listen, 1053 00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:14,920 Speaker 3: I'd love to sit down and talk with you, but 1054 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:16,640 Speaker 3: you need to go through this process so that I 1055 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:18,800 Speaker 3: ensure you get on my calendar and that we actually 1056 00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,839 Speaker 3: make time to spend with you. And people will be like, oh, 1057 00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:23,640 Speaker 3: I see, you know you don't you don't want to. 1058 00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:25,600 Speaker 3: I don't have the direct phone number no more, And 1059 00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,640 Speaker 3: I'm like, you do, That's why I'm giving you this 1060 00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,359 Speaker 3: other person's access. You think I tell everybody they can 1061 00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,000 Speaker 3: just call my my assistant to get an appointment with me. No, 1062 00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:34,760 Speaker 3: most people, I'm like, no, I don't want. 1063 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:39,120 Speaker 6: To see you, so you pass out, you know, yeah, 1064 00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:39,680 Speaker 6: New York. 1065 00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,200 Speaker 2: And also sorry, I'm just thinking about this. One last 1066 00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:45,279 Speaker 2: thing is I just. 1067 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,200 Speaker 1: Just want to encourage you and rod A Karen in 1068 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:51,040 Speaker 1: that in letting go is you'll be surprised what people 1069 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,960 Speaker 1: can come up with, you know, and give people some agency, 1070 00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,080 Speaker 1: right so they can go and create their own stuff too. 1071 00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,720 Speaker 1: You know, y'all don't necessarily have to house this platform 1072 00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,759 Speaker 1: for people, because maybe that's opportunity for other people who 1073 00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,719 Speaker 1: form connections there to take on their own ownership, whether 1074 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,000 Speaker 1: that be mods and it's still you know, how's your 1075 00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:10,040 Speaker 1: name or whatever, but that could be an opportunity for 1076 00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,720 Speaker 1: other people to step up to the play. And sometimes 1077 00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:14,360 Speaker 1: you don't really know what people are capable of, and 1078 00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:15,960 Speaker 1: they don't know what they're capable. 1079 00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,960 Speaker 2: Of until you call people, until you put the ask 1080 00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:20,640 Speaker 2: out there, right, yeah. 1081 00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,799 Speaker 1: And the people are responsible for having some buy in 1082 00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:27,400 Speaker 1: if they want this thing to remain, right, like, that 1083 00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:28,000 Speaker 1: would also be. 1084 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,040 Speaker 2: An opportunity to give give people buy in. 1085 00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:33,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, That's what I did yesterday was I basically just 1086 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,240 Speaker 4: asked the group, like, yo, this is the situation. 1087 00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,520 Speaker 6: What kind of ideas y'all have about. 1088 00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:42,000 Speaker 4: Managing this group better because I don't like at some 1089 00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:43,760 Speaker 4: point I have to just hand it off. I can't 1090 00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:47,920 Speaker 4: like it because I think the other thing is people 1091 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:52,399 Speaker 4: have ideas about power and control and how they think 1092 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:56,880 Speaker 4: that operates. But that's like it's just like this archetype 1093 00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,680 Speaker 4: and it's like like this is what people think, but 1094 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,279 Speaker 4: I don't. I'm not just a archetype like I am. 1095 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,279 Speaker 4: I like, what how people may view me is not 1096 00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,600 Speaker 4: how I am. I don't really get off by having 1097 00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:13,239 Speaker 4: twenty two hundred people look to my word. I don't 1098 00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,799 Speaker 4: get off to I don't like even when we talk 1099 00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,560 Speaker 4: on this show, as popular as the show is, I 1100 00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,799 Speaker 4: never leave the show and think and I just solve that, 1101 00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,359 Speaker 4: like and now these motherfuckers they they they know what 1102 00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,480 Speaker 4: the real issue, Like, I walk away like I was 1103 00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,759 Speaker 4: able to get my opinion out. Hopefully I'm understood and 1104 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,000 Speaker 4: hopefully I'm understanding people that are putting in. 1105 00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:35,200 Speaker 6: But that's it. 1106 00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:38,280 Speaker 4: But I think the view is just different in different 1107 00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:39,200 Speaker 4: spectrums with people. 1108 00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,879 Speaker 6: So they have ideas of like you know. 1109 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,839 Speaker 4: Conspiracy shit of you come into group and you do 1110 00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:46,960 Speaker 4: this and you try to you want this person to 1111 00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,839 Speaker 4: have to get banned. But not this person. It's like, no, 1112 00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:53,640 Speaker 4: I wouldn't ever think about it that much. That's putting 1113 00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:55,200 Speaker 4: way too much on my plate. 1114 00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,640 Speaker 1: Should I think are like these women are gold diggers, 1115 00:48:58,760 --> 00:48:59,200 Speaker 1: But you're. 1116 00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:02,799 Speaker 6: Right right, yeah, Like I don't think like that. 1117 00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:06,200 Speaker 4: And so if I can't, and if just the nature 1118 00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:09,000 Speaker 4: of having a group and having quote unquote power to 1119 00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,000 Speaker 4: some people, which I don't really consider that power, but 1120 00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,800 Speaker 4: just but just the nature of that to certain people, 1121 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,560 Speaker 4: it already has made it like it corrupts and you 1122 00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:20,759 Speaker 4: it's going to your head. And you know, I've had 1123 00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,680 Speaker 4: people be like, oh, you think you big time or 1124 00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:27,360 Speaker 4: you uh, you don't like people that can't do anything 1125 00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,279 Speaker 4: for you. I'm like, who's doing something for me in 1126 00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:32,440 Speaker 4: this group? Likes it's those moments where I'm like, oh, 1127 00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,400 Speaker 4: they're not even really talking to me. They're talking to 1128 00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,680 Speaker 4: this idea of what they think I am, and I 1129 00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,759 Speaker 4: don't care enough. And it's also not healthy for me. 1130 00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:45,400 Speaker 4: I don't like it. So yeah, man, that's gonna be 1131 00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,040 Speaker 4: a transition that we're gonna go through soon, where, like 1132 00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,560 Speaker 4: I said, where we hand this thing off, because it's 1133 00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,760 Speaker 4: like beyond just posting and being like, hey, the show 1134 00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:56,000 Speaker 4: is we got a guess coming on, it's gonna be 1135 00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:56,879 Speaker 4: live at this time. 1136 00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,640 Speaker 6: There's not much we do in the group that you know, 1137 00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,600 Speaker 6: beyond that that that that's that's fruitful for me and Karen. 1138 00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,759 Speaker 7: Okay, so somebody I say, you tea painting and. 1139 00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,600 Speaker 6: My cast just got that that uh that cricket I. 1140 00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:14,640 Speaker 9: Know, right, And and and my thing is this thinking 1141 00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,560 Speaker 9: about what y'all said as and but like this, when 1142 00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:19,360 Speaker 9: we started to show, it was two niggas in the 1143 00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:21,880 Speaker 9: bedroom with a microphone. You could have never told us 1144 00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:23,680 Speaker 9: when we first started to show that this is what 1145 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,680 Speaker 9: we beat. And a lot of times people take for 1146 00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:28,960 Speaker 9: granted the access they have to us. 1147 00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:29,759 Speaker 6: A lot of. 1148 00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,040 Speaker 9: People have taken that for granted, and they just always 1149 00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:35,279 Speaker 9: assume that you're gonna get this unlimited access to what 1150 00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,600 Speaker 9: You're gonna be able to hit us up on social media, 1151 00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:39,920 Speaker 9: You're gonna be able to hit like you just assumed 1152 00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:40,880 Speaker 9: that that's what you're gonna do. 1153 00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:42,520 Speaker 7: And we didn't have a problem with that at first. 1154 00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,800 Speaker 9: But as we began to grow, and as our platform 1155 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,640 Speaker 9: began to grow, and as you started dealing with with 1156 00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:50,800 Speaker 9: crazy motherfuckers and all this ship. 1157 00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:54,239 Speaker 6: Yeah, beat me up. I was like this ain't wanna 1158 00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:54,600 Speaker 6: beat me. 1159 00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:58,759 Speaker 4: He want to beat me up because right, he want 1160 00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:03,400 Speaker 4: to beat me up because because he disagree with me 1161 00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,520 Speaker 4: about Bill Maherin. I didn't want to hear it because 1162 00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:07,600 Speaker 4: last time he was talking real crazy to me and 1163 00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,279 Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, nigga, I don't know, like you 1164 00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:14,279 Speaker 4: blocked out of my life. And then he emailed me 1165 00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:15,920 Speaker 4: again and I was like, wait a minute, ain't this 1166 00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,520 Speaker 4: nigga crazy? And then of course I looked, you know, 1167 00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:22,120 Speaker 4: Google saves everything. I'm like, oh, other crazy emails I 1168 00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:23,040 Speaker 4: got from this dude, No. 1169 00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:23,400 Speaker 6: Thank you. 1170 00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:26,239 Speaker 4: I prefer not to talk to you. You're not respectful 1171 00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,239 Speaker 4: at all. I don't know what you're talking about. And 1172 00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,480 Speaker 4: then the next one was like I'm gonna beat you 1173 00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,080 Speaker 4: up and I'm gonna get some guys and all this shit, 1174 00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:36,600 Speaker 4: and I'm like over a podcast though I none of 1175 00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,080 Speaker 4: this is that important to me, Like, none of this 1176 00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,560 Speaker 4: is that important to me. So it's that kind of 1177 00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:45,600 Speaker 4: shit where I'm just like, compounded with you know, can 1178 00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,839 Speaker 4: you sort out a Facebook argument? Compounded with I come 1179 00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,000 Speaker 4: to look at someone else's status and somebody's in there 1180 00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,400 Speaker 4: talking shit about me. It's shit like there, you know, 1181 00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:57,239 Speaker 4: compounded with white people still mad at me because I 1182 00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,840 Speaker 4: said Bill Maher ain't shit and he never will be, 1183 00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:01,160 Speaker 4: and fuck him forever. 1184 00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:04,359 Speaker 6: Apologizing or not. White people still mad like. 1185 00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:06,480 Speaker 4: It's too much you know what I'm meaning as far 1186 00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:10,320 Speaker 4: as like attention and too much interaction with people like 1187 00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:13,600 Speaker 4: like you said, the access. But when we started, we 1188 00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,680 Speaker 4: started differently than other people at the time, And we 1189 00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,200 Speaker 4: also didn't know this ship was gonna be like this, 1190 00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,680 Speaker 4: Like we were thinking like, oh, we'll have a couple 1191 00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:24,600 Speaker 4: dozen people that listen to this and that'll be cute 1192 00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,759 Speaker 4: with our friends on the internet. We didn't think, oh, 1193 00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:31,040 Speaker 4: we'll be flying the fucking Miami or PC. 1194 00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:34,239 Speaker 6: Or whatever the fuck. None of that shit. None of 1195 00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:35,600 Speaker 6: that ship ever crossed our minds. 1196 00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:38,160 Speaker 4: So now that we're here, we have to start looking 1197 00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:42,000 Speaker 4: at it and certain boundaries from a different perspective, because 1198 00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,840 Speaker 4: because like I said, it's just not healthy to know, uh, 1199 00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,600 Speaker 4: and it's not realistic to expect people to like fall 1200 00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,200 Speaker 4: in line. So I'm not I'm just saying I don't 1201 00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:54,040 Speaker 4: need to see if y'all like ro like his breathstak, 1202 00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:57,399 Speaker 4: just I don't need to know, Like that's a that's 1203 00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:00,400 Speaker 4: a perfectly reasonable thing to think to yourself or to 1204 00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,640 Speaker 4: say without me having to be privy to it, it. 1205 00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,480 Speaker 9: Is and and and sometimes I think that even with 1206 00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,720 Speaker 9: some of our fans, people forget that people are human beings, 1207 00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:10,520 Speaker 9: Like people literally forget that. 1208 00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:14,000 Speaker 6: They forget that each other are fans. Right. That ship 1209 00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:14,840 Speaker 6: is what's killing me. 1210 00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,200 Speaker 4: I don't understand how you can forget the bigger picture 1211 00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,560 Speaker 4: of you're in a place where all of y'all are fans. 1212 00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:23,600 Speaker 6: That's the ship that kills. 1213 00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:26,400 Speaker 4: Me, is you know you would like if we have 1214 00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:28,400 Speaker 4: a meetup and y'all both show. 1215 00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:29,560 Speaker 6: Up, Now what what? 1216 00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:31,040 Speaker 4: I gotta look at the lobby and be like, I 1217 00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:34,080 Speaker 4: hope this nigga don't grab her weave and I hope 1218 00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:34,719 Speaker 4: she don't. 1219 00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:35,799 Speaker 6: Pour drink in his face. 1220 00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:37,960 Speaker 4: Like I gotta sit up there and think that because 1221 00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,520 Speaker 4: I'm like, y'all was talking real regulars to each other 1222 00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,000 Speaker 4: on social media. It's that kind of shit where I'm like, 1223 00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:45,400 Speaker 4: I wish I just didn't even know. I wish I 1224 00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:47,160 Speaker 4: just showed up said Hey, nice to meet you. 1225 00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:49,600 Speaker 6: What's your name? I wish that was it. 1226 00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:51,840 Speaker 4: If that, if this is the ultimate thing, is gonna 1227 00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:53,000 Speaker 4: get me as a bunch of heartaches. 1228 00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:54,080 Speaker 6: So now. 1229 00:53:55,480 --> 00:54:01,759 Speaker 2: I think taking yourself and not just for yourself. That's weird. 1230 00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,440 Speaker 1: But one thing that Leslie and I have noticed in 1231 00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:07,680 Speaker 1: our business was that when we took boundaries for ourselves 1232 00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:10,920 Speaker 1: that we needed for ourselves, we were modeling something different 1233 00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:14,399 Speaker 1: for other black women in our lives. Right, So part 1234 00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,640 Speaker 1: of when we're talking about black lives matter, black lives matter, Okay, cool, 1235 00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:20,720 Speaker 1: but you have to matter to you, right, your mental 1236 00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:22,480 Speaker 1: health and your well being has to matter to you. 1237 00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:26,200 Speaker 1: And what's been really powerful for us is so many 1238 00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:30,200 Speaker 1: black women just me and Leslie being like no, fuck 1239 00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:33,799 Speaker 1: you pay us, like give us our coin. It helped 1240 00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:36,360 Speaker 1: empower so many black women around us to just be 1241 00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:37,799 Speaker 1: like no, yeah. 1242 00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,719 Speaker 2: Me too, like actually no you pay me to like no. 1243 00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:42,160 Speaker 1: I don't work for free, Like no, I don't do 1244 00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:45,040 Speaker 1: those other things. So I mean that's just an encouragement 1245 00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:46,920 Speaker 1: that Like I feel like what I've learned is like 1246 00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:50,920 Speaker 1: setting boundaries for yourself be can help give permission to 1247 00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,680 Speaker 1: other people around you or the people who are watching you. 1248 00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:56,480 Speaker 1: You have visibility for them to make healthier choices for 1249 00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:57,319 Speaker 1: themselves too. 1250 00:54:57,840 --> 00:54:58,160 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1251 00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:01,040 Speaker 4: I think about how like I'll talk on this show 1252 00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:04,080 Speaker 4: about like, look, you gotta be honest with yourself. 1253 00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:06,799 Speaker 6: You gotta be open, you gotta be empathetic, you have to. 1254 00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:09,279 Speaker 4: Be all this shit and it's not up to you 1255 00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:11,279 Speaker 4: to take on a burden for somebody else, not on 1256 00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:13,800 Speaker 4: you to be like somebody else's rock or any of 1257 00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,960 Speaker 4: that shit all the time. It's like, being strong is 1258 00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:20,560 Speaker 4: more than just not admitting when something's wrong. And so 1259 00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:23,279 Speaker 4: for me, I was like, something's wrong, you know what 1260 00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:25,799 Speaker 4: I mean, And it's been wrong for a while. And 1261 00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:28,239 Speaker 4: I think part of it is social media shit and 1262 00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:32,560 Speaker 4: being and like I said, especially the group, but just 1263 00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:34,680 Speaker 4: because of the burden of it, not because of anyone's 1264 00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:36,880 Speaker 4: bad or it's just twenty two hundred people. 1265 00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:39,640 Speaker 6: That's a lot. It's just a lot for anyone person, 1266 00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:40,040 Speaker 6: a lot. 1267 00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:43,279 Speaker 4: So I think it shit had just been dragging on me, 1268 00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:46,520 Speaker 4: and so I didn't want to try to be like 1269 00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:50,680 Speaker 4: fuck it, I'll just I'll just walk it out like no, no, 1270 00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:52,600 Speaker 4: Maybe I just don't need to be doing that and 1271 00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:54,120 Speaker 4: I can go back to a healthier place. 1272 00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:58,280 Speaker 6: So all right, let's talk about news and stuff, guys. 1273 00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:05,520 Speaker 4: Okay, first of all, there's a couple of anniversaries going 1274 00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,840 Speaker 4: on right now. Okay, this is the fiftieth anniversary of 1275 00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:12,480 Speaker 4: Loving v Virginia. So if you saw a lot of 1276 00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:15,440 Speaker 4: people on social media, a lot of accounts sharing like 1277 00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:21,760 Speaker 4: hey guys, international people can can get it on legally 1278 00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:25,280 Speaker 4: and get married and everything. Fifty years ago, Loving v Virginia, 1279 00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:27,520 Speaker 4: that's what you were. That's why you were seeing it. 1280 00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:33,120 Speaker 4: It's the anniversary, dog and happy anniversary. You know that 1281 00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:38,960 Speaker 4: was just fifty years ago. Think about all the interracial 1282 00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:40,600 Speaker 4: people you know that are over fifty years old. 1283 00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:42,399 Speaker 7: It's a lot on not that out. 1284 00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:46,479 Speaker 6: Yep, that's still this country. So make America great again. 1285 00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,120 Speaker 5: I'm so comfort Loving Day every year. 1286 00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:51,359 Speaker 3: I talked about it, I'm the inter racial John today 1287 00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:52,600 Speaker 3: about Drew and I talked about it. 1288 00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:53,040 Speaker 5: How I am. 1289 00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,640 Speaker 3: I find it such a weird thing for people to celebrate. 1290 00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:58,239 Speaker 3: And it's been the last couple of years. Like I said, 1291 00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:00,480 Speaker 3: the last five years has definitely seemed to be like 1292 00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:03,880 Speaker 3: ramping up. Like it used to just be like you know, 1293 00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:05,960 Speaker 3: news people would share it, and now like there was 1294 00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:09,520 Speaker 3: a whole fucking festival here in Grand Rapids, like about 1295 00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:12,200 Speaker 3: Loving Day, like a whole they had like a play 1296 00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:16,920 Speaker 3: and festival sorts of stuff. And I was like, this 1297 00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:20,800 Speaker 3: is interesting, and I just think it's a weird like. 1298 00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:24,360 Speaker 5: Here's what it is. And I said it to do today. 1299 00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:28,000 Speaker 3: I was like, if you're an interracial couple and the 1300 00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,200 Speaker 3: most important or the coolest thing about you is that 1301 00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:35,040 Speaker 3: you're interracial, you're a whack as fuck. And I don't 1302 00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:39,320 Speaker 3: understand why that would be, Like that's that's like the 1303 00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,760 Speaker 3: forty thousand thing about Drew and I that I would 1304 00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:43,720 Speaker 3: ever be like, oh, and by the way, we're interracial, 1305 00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:46,720 Speaker 3: Like that's not the sum total of our relationship. And 1306 00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:48,800 Speaker 3: so I always like cringe a little bit when I 1307 00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:51,520 Speaker 3: see these like weird celebrations, and it also like really 1308 00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:54,720 Speaker 3: plays into this notion that like being interracial couples or 1309 00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:58,320 Speaker 3: like mixed children will save the world once everybody's brown. 1310 00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:00,840 Speaker 3: You know, like a lot of that all gets tangled 1311 00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:02,840 Speaker 3: in in a lot of these celebrations, and I just 1312 00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:05,680 Speaker 3: I like always have like this weird reaction to it. 1313 00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:07,440 Speaker 3: I actually don't know how to react to it, but 1314 00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:10,040 Speaker 3: I know that that it always never sits right for me. 1315 00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:13,040 Speaker 3: And then when we go back to the actual decision 1316 00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:16,480 Speaker 3: of loving v Virginia, know, the ACLU argue that case, 1317 00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:18,880 Speaker 3: and their whole point in that case was not that 1318 00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:20,960 Speaker 3: anybody can marry anybody. 1319 00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:22,040 Speaker 5: Was very specific. 1320 00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,160 Speaker 3: They went and their their argument to the court was 1321 00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,280 Speaker 3: that you can't tell a white man what they can 1322 00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:26,920 Speaker 3: and cannot do. 1323 00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:30,400 Speaker 5: Right in this instance, that's what was trying to happen. 1324 00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:33,440 Speaker 3: If this had been a black man and a white woman, 1325 00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:37,160 Speaker 3: this argument would never have worked. And so I also 1326 00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:39,360 Speaker 3: that nuance of it and like how the how it 1327 00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:42,120 Speaker 3: was actually one is really important to kind of like 1328 00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:45,400 Speaker 3: make sure people understand that even in this historic decision 1329 00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:48,560 Speaker 3: that was supposedly about equality, it was framed as. 1330 00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:51,760 Speaker 5: Centering a white man in the moment and saying that we. 1331 00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:55,040 Speaker 3: At our courts, at our at our highest level, a 1332 00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:57,200 Speaker 3: highest court, they can never tell a white man what 1333 00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:58,120 Speaker 3: they can and cannot do. 1334 00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:00,440 Speaker 5: So there's a lot that go into it. 1335 00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:02,400 Speaker 3: And so I'm always like always like cringe a little 1336 00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:05,240 Speaker 3: bit when I talk about what I hear stuff about 1337 00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:06,320 Speaker 3: loving day and stuff like that. 1338 00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:10,000 Speaker 1: But yeah, I kind of like, what is the what 1339 00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:12,240 Speaker 1: is the goal? Because it harkens back to this like 1340 00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,720 Speaker 1: this view of racial quality that I feel. 1341 00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:17,440 Speaker 2: Like most of us know is bullshit, which. 1342 00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:19,600 Speaker 1: Is just like integration if we just all come together, 1343 00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:22,320 Speaker 1: And it's like, is that the goal, like is the 1344 00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:24,160 Speaker 1: end goal? That we could just like hook up with 1345 00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:26,880 Speaker 1: white people. Is that, like, is that what we're gonna do? 1346 00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:29,240 Speaker 1: Like and and a lot of times too, people not 1347 00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:32,240 Speaker 1: acknowledging like, you know, because Leslie's. 1348 00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:34,320 Speaker 2: Made to a white man. My parents are an interracial couple. 1349 00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:38,000 Speaker 1: But it's like those relationships are in a political context. 1350 00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:40,920 Speaker 1: They're politicized, like it's not just all cute, you know, 1351 00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:43,080 Speaker 1: and low key, I feel like a lot of white 1352 00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:45,880 Speaker 1: folks who are dating, first of all, the whole interracial 1353 00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:49,480 Speaker 1: relationship is usually always only talking about a white person 1354 00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:51,920 Speaker 1: dating someone who's not a white person. 1355 00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:53,360 Speaker 2: There's that it all centers. 1356 00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:58,440 Speaker 1: Around whiteness, right and and sorry, I just it's just 1357 00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:02,720 Speaker 1: I feel like it gives deep political where it's like, yeah, 1358 01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:07,200 Speaker 1: folks won't won't actually like it's like this weird like 1359 01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:10,040 Speaker 1: integration if we just all come together, which I don't 1360 01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:10,600 Speaker 1: know any. 1361 01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:12,200 Speaker 2: Black folks at least my age. 1362 01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:14,080 Speaker 1: Most of the people in the activist circles that I'm 1363 01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:18,640 Speaker 1: around people are more like black love. And the thing 1364 01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:20,640 Speaker 1: that now recurs to me, the thing that I was 1365 01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:22,720 Speaker 1: thinking about is that we were talking about earlier, is like, 1366 01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:25,800 Speaker 1: low key, I feel like white people who were partnered 1367 01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:27,680 Speaker 1: to white people in general, but white people who are 1368 01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:31,320 Speaker 1: partnered to people of color. It's like this is like 1369 01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:34,280 Speaker 1: a weird way that you could be oppressed, like if 1370 01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:36,440 Speaker 1: you're in an you know, like under these guys is 1371 01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:38,200 Speaker 1: like white folks will always find a way to be 1372 01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:41,000 Speaker 1: oppressed or whatever, and so and you'll if you talk 1373 01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:43,880 Speaker 1: to some people, you'll even hear them frame themselves being 1374 01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:45,960 Speaker 1: with a black person or be with a brown person 1375 01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:48,720 Speaker 1: as like, look at how much I need to suffer 1376 01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,080 Speaker 1: or whatever. So I just think it's like I think 1377 01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:54,600 Speaker 1: in general, like Leslie said and stuff, it's like it's 1378 01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:57,240 Speaker 1: so messy and people don't want to talk about everything 1379 01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:59,960 Speaker 1: that's underneath the surface that I would really, I really. 1380 01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:02,800 Speaker 2: Say away from celebrating all of that kind of stuff. 1381 01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:06,440 Speaker 1: Because it feels very superficial, like let's just celebrate this superficial, 1382 01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:09,040 Speaker 1: cute win while everything else is like really fucked up 1383 01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:12,840 Speaker 1: underneath it, which is generally how our country operates now anyways, 1384 01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:15,240 Speaker 1: I guess like we just really funked up but cute. 1385 01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:18,360 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, always we had the best lip gloss. Now 1386 01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:21,080 Speaker 4: I we're right up at against the break at one twenty, 1387 01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:23,200 Speaker 4: so I gotta go to the next session. Bring everybody 1388 01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:25,880 Speaker 4: back on screen, and then I will bring two counterpoints 1389 01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:28,960 Speaker 4: to everything that y'all just said. Give me one second, 1390 01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:38,040 Speaker 4: coming right back, all right, all right, let's wait on this. 1391 01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:39,360 Speaker 5: The oh. 1392 01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:44,520 Speaker 6: It's coming out of her. I can call my father. 1393 01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:53,240 Speaker 4: Jesus, Jesus, how I love him and trust him? 1394 01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:53,760 Speaker 6: Can't? 1395 01:01:56,280 --> 01:02:03,240 Speaker 4: All right, let me see and go live. And now 1396 01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:05,200 Speaker 4: to invite these ladies back on. 1397 01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:11,360 Speaker 6: Karen, Yes, let's start with you. Then I'm gonna blow 1398 01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:13,000 Speaker 6: everybody's mind. 1399 01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:20,240 Speaker 4: All right, get Leslie Mac back on here, and uh. 1400 01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:20,760 Speaker 6: What murse ago? 1401 01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:29,760 Speaker 4: Let you go, all right, invite her back? All right, cool, 1402 01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:38,520 Speaker 4: give her a second and get back on screen. All right, 1403 01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:42,760 Speaker 4: everybody should be back. So anyway, my two counterpoints one 1404 01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:44,440 Speaker 4: Lenny Kravitz. 1405 01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:54,960 Speaker 6: Right exactly, uh and then hell uh and then of 1406 01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:56,320 Speaker 6: course uh yo. 1407 01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:58,040 Speaker 2: Leslie was ready for these counterpoints. 1408 01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:01,120 Speaker 4: She was like ready he got to And then of 1409 01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:04,160 Speaker 4: course the second one. I've never seen black people celebrate 1410 01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:08,320 Speaker 4: this so right like that. And you want me to 1411 01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:11,720 Speaker 4: tell you why, because what they're not talking about is 1412 01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:14,480 Speaker 4: that a lot of people in an international relationship, particularly 1413 01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:16,320 Speaker 4: if you have a white partner and a black partner, 1414 01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:18,280 Speaker 4: don't talk about how the black partner is not a 1415 01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:21,080 Speaker 4: times called nigga and he's international relationships. And when you 1416 01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:22,880 Speaker 4: bring him up, you got to talk about how his 1417 01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:24,880 Speaker 4: wife was called all kinds of niggas and he was 1418 01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:25,640 Speaker 4: called a nigga lover. 1419 01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:28,720 Speaker 7: And it all bought down to not her humanity and 1420 01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:30,959 Speaker 7: not her writing, her choice to marry who she wanted 1421 01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:33,800 Speaker 7: to marry. It was about you not being a white man. 1422 01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:34,120 Speaker 7: What to do? 1423 01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:36,560 Speaker 4: Well, I didn't know they was doing marches. That's some 1424 01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:40,320 Speaker 4: new ship for me. That's uh, it's really extra. 1425 01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:43,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's pretty extra man for everything. 1426 01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:47,520 Speaker 4: And let me tell you what, like what is the 1427 01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:49,920 Speaker 4: loving What is the Loving March? 1428 01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:51,080 Speaker 6: Though? Like, what is it? 1429 01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:53,720 Speaker 4: What are the floats at the Loving March? You know 1430 01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:58,000 Speaker 4: it's like Oreo cookies? Uh fucking uh? 1431 01:03:58,360 --> 01:03:58,560 Speaker 9: You know? 1432 01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:01,440 Speaker 6: Is it evany? And I read like on a float? 1433 01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:03,800 Speaker 5: It's like strom thurmon, let me stop. 1434 01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:08,640 Speaker 3: Let's stop right there, because it's a down hill. This 1435 01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:12,200 Speaker 3: is why I can't be around you, Roger. Come think 1436 01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:14,040 Speaker 3: I'm all nice and respectful when I come on this 1437 01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:16,720 Speaker 3: show and act ratcha as fuck and then everyone's like 1438 01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:17,120 Speaker 3: ha ha. 1439 01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:20,280 Speaker 2: No, Jesse Williams T shirt on. 1440 01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:23,520 Speaker 6: I do I do worry about that. I do worry. 1441 01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:26,240 Speaker 6: Like sometimes there's a certain guest that I'm just like, nah, 1442 01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:27,840 Speaker 6: can't you can't up? 1443 01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:31,000 Speaker 9: They we love and you know how you have the 1444 01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:33,160 Speaker 9: good kid and you know they're gonna do great things 1445 01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:35,480 Speaker 9: in life, and you like you, you you you got 1446 01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:35,880 Speaker 9: to beat it. 1447 01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:38,280 Speaker 7: That's how we like with ol Joe Williams. We love her, but. 1448 01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:42,040 Speaker 5: Let Clarence go to school. He needs to stay on 1449 01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:44,120 Speaker 5: his learning. Don't get him into this life. 1450 01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:48,040 Speaker 4: I'm like, Ljoy might be president one day, right, and 1451 01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:50,600 Speaker 4: I don't want to find the taste. They're gonna find 1452 01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:53,840 Speaker 4: the taste. Like, so uh, before we go on the 1453 01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:57,479 Speaker 4: candidate Williams question, let's play the tape of you playing 1454 01:04:57,520 --> 01:04:58,080 Speaker 4: guesst the race. 1455 01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:01,160 Speaker 6: What is a big lip nigger monkey? 1456 01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:02,080 Speaker 5: Can you please. 1457 01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:04,040 Speaker 6: Elaborate like, I don't want to. I don't want that 1458 01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:04,360 Speaker 6: to happen. 1459 01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:06,200 Speaker 7: I'm not gonna be the reason to hunt down foul. 1460 01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:06,800 Speaker 6: Nope. 1461 01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:10,200 Speaker 4: But yeah, that anniversary quote unquote was kind of a 1462 01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,680 Speaker 4: like I said, I never had seen that even celebrated before, 1463 01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:15,360 Speaker 4: but I saw it like. 1464 01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:18,000 Speaker 6: Trending the day and ship and it was. 1465 01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:19,880 Speaker 4: Funny because the reason I saw training is because I 1466 01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:22,760 Speaker 4: you know, I obviously follow all these black people. 1467 01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:25,320 Speaker 6: And it was all them being like, I don't know 1468 01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:25,800 Speaker 6: about this. 1469 01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:30,080 Speaker 4: It was like it's like every single tweet of loving 1470 01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:33,720 Speaker 4: hashtag loving day was just a retweet of somebody being like, so, 1471 01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:38,400 Speaker 4: what exactly are we celebrating here? What like define celebrated 1472 01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:41,240 Speaker 4: Like I was. I was like, oh man, so yeah, 1473 01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:46,640 Speaker 4: you're good right on. 1474 01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:50,160 Speaker 3: Our end, Okay, Drew tried to start a group for 1475 01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:53,320 Speaker 3: like white wolkish white. 1476 01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:54,320 Speaker 5: Husbands that. 1477 01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:57,240 Speaker 1: What is the first time hearing this? 1478 01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:01,760 Speaker 3: So it was like him like Chesca Lee's husband, and 1479 01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:06,240 Speaker 3: like a couple of other things. So girl, I go, 1480 01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:09,000 Speaker 3: I don't know a bunch of black women organizers that 1481 01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:10,160 Speaker 3: have white partners. 1482 01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:12,440 Speaker 5: Let me, you know, let them know, y'all could go 1483 01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:13,520 Speaker 5: talk about whatever, y'all. 1484 01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:15,320 Speaker 3: So actually it was really around I was having a 1485 01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:17,280 Speaker 3: hard time, and Drew was like, we had to come 1486 01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:19,600 Speaker 3: up with through our therapist, like a plan to like 1487 01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:22,600 Speaker 3: how best to support me when when shit goes left 1488 01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:25,440 Speaker 3: and he's white and don't quite understand how left it is, 1489 01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:27,120 Speaker 3: And so that's what they were supposed to be like 1490 01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:28,240 Speaker 3: talking about like real stuff. 1491 01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:32,320 Speaker 5: So all of these I reached out to quite a 1492 01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:34,080 Speaker 5: few black women organizers that I. 1493 01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:36,040 Speaker 3: Know and like almost all of them were like, oh, 1494 01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:39,880 Speaker 3: you know, my partner's not woke. And I was like, oh, 1495 01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:42,600 Speaker 3: what do you what are you doing with them? Like 1496 01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:45,240 Speaker 3: I was so confused, and it was like like so 1497 01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:46,680 Speaker 3: many of them said this to me and I was 1498 01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:49,840 Speaker 3: like oh. And Drew was so sad. He was just like, oh, 1499 01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:52,360 Speaker 3: but you know what. 1500 01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:56,920 Speaker 4: That's I mean, not the to not not even starting 1501 01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:59,560 Speaker 4: to belittle it, but I mean there's a lot of 1502 01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:04,120 Speaker 4: women's married to less than satisfactory U matches when it 1503 01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:05,760 Speaker 4: comes to people's politics and ship. 1504 01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:11,920 Speaker 6: So like a lot of women women compromise a lot 1505 01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:12,880 Speaker 6: when it comes to that. 1506 01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:15,480 Speaker 4: Ship because there's all kinds of women that's just like 1507 01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:16,760 Speaker 4: super super woke and stuff. 1508 01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:17,760 Speaker 6: And then you meet they man, you. 1509 01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:19,280 Speaker 7: Be like, oh, that's a goddamn hotel. 1510 01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:21,080 Speaker 6: You're like this nigga. 1511 01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:24,600 Speaker 4: She's like he was close enough. Okay, he did believe 1512 01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:30,120 Speaker 4: in some black power. I will talk him the rest 1513 01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:32,720 Speaker 4: of the way. Okay, he's gonna be working on it. 1514 01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:36,080 Speaker 4: He does belong to several black husband groups. But we 1515 01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:39,760 Speaker 4: can't go in there, guys, it's too much. Uh, but yeah, 1516 01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:42,000 Speaker 4: it's it's so yeah, I think people do compromise a 1517 01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:44,040 Speaker 4: lot anyway, So I'm not really surprised to see that 1518 01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:46,360 Speaker 4: there will be people that are like like some Uh 1519 01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:49,840 Speaker 4: this question came up months ago, but remember we got 1520 01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:51,960 Speaker 4: asked that question where it was like why how do. 1521 01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:53,240 Speaker 6: People marry inter racially? 1522 01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:56,360 Speaker 4: If you know, especially if they really woke, if you're 1523 01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:58,600 Speaker 4: a person of color, you're woke and you're married to 1524 01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:00,360 Speaker 4: a white person, Like, how do you make at work? 1525 01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:03,080 Speaker 6: Because white people do? And I was like, how does 1526 01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:05,200 Speaker 6: any woman ever marry any man? 1527 01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:05,800 Speaker 5: Right? 1528 01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:10,560 Speaker 4: Like, knowing knowing we're just going technical and you're just 1529 01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:13,920 Speaker 4: going to technical statistics, why the fuck would you ever 1530 01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:15,360 Speaker 4: put your life in danger like that? 1531 01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:15,600 Speaker 6: Right? 1532 01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:19,760 Speaker 9: Because knowing that, particularly being black women, you are going 1533 01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:22,800 Speaker 9: to get killed by your mate, it's a change. You're 1534 01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:24,760 Speaker 9: a black woman, you don't get killed by your mate 1535 01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:26,240 Speaker 9: or somebody that you have a second life. 1536 01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:29,559 Speaker 4: Like if you get killed of the of the causes 1537 01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:33,000 Speaker 4: of death, that nigga, that's fucking you is no number one. 1538 01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:37,120 Speaker 4: Nobody should ever Like, there's never really a good reason 1539 01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:40,840 Speaker 4: for women to couple up women, Uh, if we're talking 1540 01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:42,759 Speaker 4: about this rest of their lives, Like when. 1541 01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:44,479 Speaker 6: You look at like statistics too, like. 1542 01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:48,720 Speaker 4: Living longer, being healthier, having more money. 1543 01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:52,360 Speaker 6: Right, more education. It's all like attached. 1544 01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:54,160 Speaker 4: To don't get you no man. What you want You 1545 01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:56,280 Speaker 4: want to look good your whole life. Stay away from 1546 01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:58,400 Speaker 4: these niggas, Like that's kind of how it is. 1547 01:08:58,400 --> 01:08:59,519 Speaker 7: So you want to be somebody. 1548 01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:02,120 Speaker 9: M M was like, and that's why we know, more education, 1549 01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:04,599 Speaker 9: we don't need no man, We're gonna like, look, you're 1550 01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:06,639 Speaker 9: gonna have to come up to We done got educated, 1551 01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:09,519 Speaker 9: we got money, and we ain't accept the less right. 1552 01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:11,720 Speaker 4: So I feel like that's like, you know, part of 1553 01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:13,920 Speaker 4: that whole thing where it's like, yeah, there's probably a 1554 01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:16,519 Speaker 4: lot of people that what is that plans that mean, 1555 01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:18,800 Speaker 4: Oh it is me. 1556 01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:23,680 Speaker 6: I didn't do that anyway, that does that took? That took. 1557 01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:25,439 Speaker 6: I don't know why that. I clicked on that link 1558 01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:28,360 Speaker 6: like twenty minutes ago and they just started playing. Anyway. 1559 01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:31,519 Speaker 6: I guess that's the links telling us to move on and. 1560 01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:35,720 Speaker 4: The other the other anniversary and this is more of 1561 01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:36,880 Speaker 4: a summer anniversary. 1562 01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:38,000 Speaker 6: Uh, but. 1563 01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:43,800 Speaker 4: This is the anniversary of the post night club post 1564 01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:45,479 Speaker 4: club post nightclub shooting. 1565 01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:47,880 Speaker 6: Orlando officials declared. 1566 01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:50,160 Speaker 4: The Day of Love and Kindness on the anniversary of 1567 01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:54,599 Speaker 4: the Post nightclub shooting, and people are being gathered around 1568 01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:58,800 Speaker 4: to uh cause you know, they were gonna like rebuild it, 1569 01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:02,880 Speaker 4: they were gonna make like a memorial. The city was 1570 01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:08,040 Speaker 4: gonna buy it, like all the stuff. But I'm from 1571 01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:12,479 Speaker 4: my understanding the owner didn't end up selling it. So yeah, 1572 01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:16,240 Speaker 4: it's still you know, people going there and gathering and 1573 01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:20,479 Speaker 4: being like you know, uh, I guess uh having a 1574 01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:25,080 Speaker 4: memorial for for people, And it's just. 1575 01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:26,440 Speaker 6: So weird because. 1576 01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:32,280 Speaker 4: Their actual government officials don't give a fuck about the 1577 01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:37,679 Speaker 4: LGBTQ community. Yet here's an opportunity that looks it feels 1578 01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:41,160 Speaker 4: like that thing where this will look good, give us 1579 01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:43,960 Speaker 4: a reason to say we're good people, and then we'll 1580 01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:46,760 Speaker 4: go right back to like we keep them all how 1581 01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:48,679 Speaker 4: we keep them transgenders from getting it done? 1582 01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:51,240 Speaker 6: Dude, how we keep them o the bathroom? I don't 1583 01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:52,320 Speaker 6: want no gay marriage. 1584 01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:55,800 Speaker 4: Like we're gonna go right back to that tomorrow, but 1585 01:10:56,040 --> 01:10:57,400 Speaker 4: for today it's a ceasefire. 1586 01:10:57,520 --> 01:11:00,000 Speaker 6: Well that's actually a horrible turning. Frank didn't mean to say. 1587 01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:03,439 Speaker 4: But today it's actually like we're gonna, we're gonna take it. 1588 01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:05,840 Speaker 4: We're gonna stop, like we're gonna take it. We're gonna 1589 01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:08,719 Speaker 4: we're gonna stop hating y'all for one day, twenty four hours. 1590 01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:12,280 Speaker 4: Uh Ali alix free on the gay community, and they're 1591 01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:13,240 Speaker 4: right back to hate. 1592 01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:16,559 Speaker 9: She then gonna see some bad comments, yeh slandering them 1593 01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:18,840 Speaker 9: And for some reason, you got all them letters, but 1594 01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:20,680 Speaker 9: the only two to see the matter is the first two. 1595 01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:22,479 Speaker 9: If you and any of them love the letters, dack 1596 01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:23,719 Speaker 9: like yours don't exist. 1597 01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:25,320 Speaker 6: Well, shit, And I'm saying. 1598 01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:29,479 Speaker 1: Well and loving kindness, Like, how about we do some 1599 01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:30,920 Speaker 1: material things to help people. 1600 01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:32,519 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if you saw this. 1601 01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:36,560 Speaker 1: Article from Orlando Weekly, uh that I shared earlier. 1602 01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:39,000 Speaker 2: But uh, it was talking about one of the post survivors. 1603 01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:40,120 Speaker 2: His name is Keenan Carter. 1604 01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:43,519 Speaker 1: He was declared dead at the at the hospital, but 1605 01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:46,120 Speaker 1: he went and took some of the money that people 1606 01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:50,120 Speaker 1: donated to him and opened up a Youth of LGBTQ 1607 01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:54,760 Speaker 1: center for black lgbt youth. And I'm like, those are 1608 01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:56,960 Speaker 1: the things that we should be talking about, right Like 1609 01:11:57,520 --> 01:12:00,600 Speaker 1: people want to be like, oh love Trump's okay, but 1610 01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:02,840 Speaker 1: that has to have a material you know what I mean. 1611 01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:09,800 Speaker 3: Coming together of the LATINX LGBTQ community in Orlando as 1612 01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:11,600 Speaker 3: well in the wake of Orlando and so much of 1613 01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:13,160 Speaker 3: the commentary thought that it was just a bunch of 1614 01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:18,599 Speaker 3: white people writing about this this tragedy that didn't really 1615 01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:22,040 Speaker 3: involve them that specifically. They weren't just attacked because they 1616 01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:25,599 Speaker 3: were LGBTQ. They were attacked because they were of color 1617 01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:29,000 Speaker 3: and LGBTQ. So it's like, you know, again we talk 1618 01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:31,760 Speaker 3: about where those intersections exist, and so I was just 1619 01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:34,920 Speaker 3: starving for only you know, making sure I shared as 1620 01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:38,839 Speaker 3: much as I could from that particular intersectional community because 1621 01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:43,160 Speaker 3: it's it's deliberate and it's specific, and you know, I'm 1622 01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:45,320 Speaker 3: not going to get into the problems with the white gays. 1623 01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:48,400 Speaker 3: Both g A I S N G A Z E, 1624 01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:53,439 Speaker 3: but they both played out very specifically. When you saw 1625 01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:56,360 Speaker 3: the people's commentary and stuff today and the anniversary of 1626 01:12:56,680 --> 01:12:58,479 Speaker 3: the night club shooting. 1627 01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:01,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I can only imagine because anytime you get more 1628 01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:04,800 Speaker 4: specific to a point where it excludes white people, then 1629 01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:06,880 Speaker 4: all of a sudden, it is it becomes a fight. 1630 01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:09,800 Speaker 4: You know, it's like, oh, yeah, it was Latin night 1631 01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:15,360 Speaker 4: Clearly this dude was targeting the like I said, LATINX community. 1632 01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:17,040 Speaker 6: And then it's still gonna. 1633 01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:20,680 Speaker 4: Get well, not really, I mean, two white people were 1634 01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:24,160 Speaker 4: there Okay, so it's like if you think it's if 1635 01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:26,800 Speaker 4: you think it's more fruitful I have that fight in 1636 01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:30,719 Speaker 4: the wake of this, then I mean, I guess good luck, 1637 01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:32,759 Speaker 4: because I don't. I don't think that's the fight anybody 1638 01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:37,760 Speaker 4: should be having. In other news, the Bachelorette. 1639 01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:41,000 Speaker 2: Okay, yes, I'm watching tonight. 1640 01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:44,760 Speaker 4: I want to tell you that because oh ship, Yeah, 1641 01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:47,240 Speaker 4: the NBA game is on though Cleveland. 1642 01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:49,400 Speaker 6: I figured it. 1643 01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:53,720 Speaker 3: So that it wouldn't be like you. It wouldn't like 1644 01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:55,719 Speaker 3: you could just give some of that to Ryan Karen too, 1645 01:13:56,120 --> 01:13:57,600 Speaker 3: not just to me. When I had to break it. 1646 01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:01,599 Speaker 5: Cleveland and seven, how you are. 1647 01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:08,240 Speaker 6: Well according to that discussed well that you. 1648 01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:10,120 Speaker 2: Know, I'll be walking out the live tweet this sucking 1649 01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:11,120 Speaker 2: up my whole schedule. 1650 01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:15,160 Speaker 6: You know, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to interrupt anything tonight. 1651 01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:18,240 Speaker 4: You know. Uh, I'll tell you who wishes we won't 1652 01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:24,559 Speaker 4: be live tweeting. Apparently the Mario is gotten himself. Yeah, 1653 01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:28,320 Speaker 4: the Mario Jackson episode I did watch. The five minutes 1654 01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:29,439 Speaker 4: we watched was with the. 1655 01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:30,360 Speaker 7: Whole five minutes to. 1656 01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:33,280 Speaker 4: Mario had a white side chicken. I just went, well, 1657 01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:37,280 Speaker 4: his name is Tomorrio. Now keep in mind that's before 1658 01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:42,360 Speaker 4: I knew his last name was Jackson. Oh Jackson, the 1659 01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:44,320 Speaker 4: Mario Jackson. If I had known that, I've been like, 1660 01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:45,040 Speaker 4: what are y'all doing? 1661 01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:45,479 Speaker 6: Inviting? 1662 01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:47,680 Speaker 4: She should have called the whole thing off when she's 1663 01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:50,080 Speaker 4: seen the list, and it was like yes. And also 1664 01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:53,360 Speaker 4: the Mario Jackson, what, no, you guys aren't serious. 1665 01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:56,680 Speaker 1: The nigga was on the basketball day and was the 1666 01:14:56,720 --> 01:14:58,280 Speaker 1: only one who could play basketball. 1667 01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:02,320 Speaker 4: Mm hm, you fight, dun't you can tell it's listen, 1668 01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:06,200 Speaker 4: it's certain certain names. I'm just saying, guys, Okay, white 1669 01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:11,960 Speaker 4: people not all wrong about the stereotypes. But yeah, apparently 1670 01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:16,760 Speaker 4: though the Mario Jackson got himself in some trouble. They 1671 01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:20,479 Speaker 4: have a Bachelor in Paradise, which is like this spin 1672 01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:23,160 Speaker 4: off show apparently, and I'm sure Nick Joe will elaborate 1673 01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:24,120 Speaker 4: much more than I can. 1674 01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:30,360 Speaker 7: What's okay? Like the spinoffs? 1675 01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:34,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, Like they have all the like yeah, yeah, all 1676 01:15:34,360 --> 01:15:38,400 Speaker 4: the yeah, all the apes. If you ain't making you 1677 01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:41,040 Speaker 4: can go to this, right, And so all the rejects 1678 01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:44,400 Speaker 4: go and they fuck and they they they do games 1679 01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:48,000 Speaker 4: and they compete and all this shit. Well apparently they're 1680 01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:55,840 Speaker 4: filming that now and uh, Corinne Olympios claims that because 1681 01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:58,639 Speaker 4: the first this story came out white woman, they claim 1682 01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:00,679 Speaker 4: out that, oh, they got caught fucking in the pool 1683 01:16:00,760 --> 01:16:03,200 Speaker 4: or something like that, and there was a staff member 1684 01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:06,639 Speaker 4: that was suing the company like ABC or whatever, like, hey, 1685 01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:09,600 Speaker 4: motherfucker's all fucking in the pool. I ain't signed up 1686 01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:11,320 Speaker 4: for this, which I'm like, did you not sign up 1687 01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:11,559 Speaker 4: for that? 1688 01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:12,920 Speaker 6: But they were. 1689 01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:15,720 Speaker 4: They were like, I don't know how you're gonna win 1690 01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:17,360 Speaker 4: that one in court, you know what I mean. 1691 01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:20,679 Speaker 6: But apparently. 1692 01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:24,800 Speaker 4: She like it's been a few hours now, she is 1693 01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:27,880 Speaker 4: saying that it was a sexual assault, she was passed out. 1694 01:16:28,479 --> 01:16:31,040 Speaker 6: She doesn't she said, she doesn't remember it. 1695 01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:34,559 Speaker 4: This is one of those things where I'm like, Yo, 1696 01:16:35,479 --> 01:16:39,599 Speaker 4: not only is he probably in trouble if this is true, 1697 01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:44,400 Speaker 4: the company gotta be in right, Like they film all 1698 01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:47,760 Speaker 4: this shit. If you let somebody have sex with someone 1699 01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:51,360 Speaker 4: that's passed out on your camera for the offices of entertainment, 1700 01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:57,919 Speaker 4: oh nigga, it's about to be abe Corene Olympio's network. 1701 01:16:58,000 --> 01:16:58,479 Speaker 6: Dog like. 1702 01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:01,120 Speaker 5: She got the whole production down. 1703 01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:05,360 Speaker 3: They shut the entire production down mid shoot. Yeah, and 1704 01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:09,120 Speaker 3: they got to everybody home. So she is serious, af 1705 01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:09,680 Speaker 3: they don't do. 1706 01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:12,800 Speaker 1: That that's the thing from her, from her statement that 1707 01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:14,479 Speaker 1: I read earlier, she. 1708 01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:17,400 Speaker 2: Actually said that like she's actually not. 1709 01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:21,040 Speaker 1: Even blaming him because she said they were both drunk. 1710 01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:25,360 Speaker 1: She's actually blaming producers because she said apparently other people, 1711 01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:28,880 Speaker 1: other contestants and stuff, were telling the producers, you know, 1712 01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:32,160 Speaker 1: they're both super drunk, she's super junk, like, don't do this, 1713 01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:34,960 Speaker 1: and the producers refuse to intervene. So it was like 1714 01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:39,080 Speaker 1: interesting because it's not even at that clear cut of 1715 01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:41,479 Speaker 1: like you already got the issues with. 1716 01:17:41,439 --> 01:17:43,880 Speaker 2: The black man and the white woman, and that's an 1717 01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:44,800 Speaker 2: issue walp top. 1718 01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:48,760 Speaker 1: But she's not even like blaming him, right, Like she's 1719 01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:51,599 Speaker 1: not even going after him. She's saying, this is all 1720 01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:55,240 Speaker 1: the producer's fault. And we barely have a concept of rape. 1721 01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:58,200 Speaker 1: I don't think we have any concept where someone can 1722 01:17:58,240 --> 01:18:00,320 Speaker 1: be a guilty party in a rape and not one 1723 01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:04,400 Speaker 1: of the two parties right like engaged. 1724 01:18:04,439 --> 01:18:06,960 Speaker 2: So it's a messy and it's racialized. I'm just like, 1725 01:18:07,439 --> 01:18:09,480 Speaker 2: I don't think anybody knows. 1726 01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:10,240 Speaker 7: I better. 1727 01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:12,800 Speaker 4: I better not see you niggas on Twitter talking about 1728 01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:15,200 Speaker 4: some immittial I will slap this ship out of y'all. 1729 01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:18,479 Speaker 4: If y'all trying to turn the Mario Jackson into motherfucking 1730 01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:19,519 Speaker 4: I Matial, don't do it. 1731 01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:22,879 Speaker 6: Don't do it, man. Even if and the thing is, even. 1732 01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:26,040 Speaker 4: If both parties are drunk, this I think it will 1733 01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:29,400 Speaker 4: go on the network because that it's not like both 1734 01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:31,600 Speaker 4: parties are drunk in a vacuum. It's both parties are 1735 01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:36,960 Speaker 4: drunk in a sea of cameras, recording equipment, producers, uh, 1736 01:18:37,160 --> 01:18:39,000 Speaker 4: people holding boom mics. 1737 01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:41,879 Speaker 6: And if there's video of other. 1738 01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:44,360 Speaker 4: People in the contest being like, those people are drunk, 1739 01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:47,000 Speaker 4: how are y'all letting them have sex when they're that wasted? 1740 01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:52,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, these motherfuckers have to lose everything behind this ship. 1741 01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:55,360 Speaker 4: And then and if they shut down the fucking production, 1742 01:18:56,320 --> 01:18:57,000 Speaker 4: it's serious. 1743 01:18:57,479 --> 01:18:59,800 Speaker 2: Sent everybody home, They sent everyone home. 1744 01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:01,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, this was. 1745 01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:03,280 Speaker 1: This happened on like one of filming, and they sent 1746 01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:05,360 Speaker 1: everybody home, up every home and they. 1747 01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:09,639 Speaker 3: Always There's a show on Lifetime, I want to say, 1748 01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:12,880 Speaker 3: and it's about a Bachelor esque type show and it's 1749 01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:14,799 Speaker 3: about the behind the scenes, so it's like the producers 1750 01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:17,320 Speaker 3: and everything, and they each get assigned to girls. And 1751 01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:19,080 Speaker 3: the EP of it used to be an EP on 1752 01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:22,479 Speaker 3: The Bachelor, and she basically is like yeah, this is 1753 01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:24,720 Speaker 3: how this is how we do it. Like they they 1754 01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:28,200 Speaker 3: manipulate people because they know their backstories and they try 1755 01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:31,439 Speaker 3: and make it into like as dramatic as they possibly can. 1756 01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:33,960 Speaker 3: I also don't I just don't believe they didn't know 1757 01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:36,760 Speaker 3: to Mario and it had a white girlfriend. That's ridiculous, 1758 01:19:37,280 --> 01:19:39,280 Speaker 3: showed up at the basketball game. So it seems like 1759 01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:40,560 Speaker 3: somebody knew something. 1760 01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:48,120 Speaker 4: Everybody knew. Also, I got job. We none of us 1761 01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:49,920 Speaker 4: watched the show. We all knew we had a white girlfriend. 1762 01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:53,960 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, that's you're right. They rigged the fuck out 1763 01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:55,280 Speaker 4: of this ship, and it's obvious. 1764 01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:57,800 Speaker 6: And yeah, my thing has. 1765 01:19:57,760 --> 01:20:00,559 Speaker 4: Always been, like I've always thought these shows girded the 1766 01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:03,439 Speaker 4: lines right, you know, even when it was just like 1767 01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:07,200 Speaker 4: jersey shorts, Like you're getting people liquored up. The only 1768 01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:09,960 Speaker 4: thing the fucking production people pay for is the alcohol. 1769 01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:12,439 Speaker 4: You get people liquored up, you know they're gonna go 1770 01:20:12,439 --> 01:20:16,839 Speaker 4: out be belligerent, be reckless, make horrible decisions because they're drunk. 1771 01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:18,200 Speaker 6: You're gonna edit it up. 1772 01:20:18,240 --> 01:20:20,600 Speaker 4: We're all gonna laugh at home and judge them and 1773 01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:23,400 Speaker 4: be like, what horrible people they are. They don't have TV, 1774 01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:25,439 Speaker 4: they don't have the internet. They don't have access to 1775 01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:29,679 Speaker 4: magazine like anything. So it's a situation that's a powder keg. 1776 01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:32,920 Speaker 4: And you would think to a certain level, like, well, 1777 01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:35,920 Speaker 4: there are lines that we all know you gotta say no, 1778 01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:37,840 Speaker 4: but it's just a matter of time if you keep 1779 01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:40,320 Speaker 4: playing with fire the song and be like, yall, why 1780 01:20:40,360 --> 01:20:42,960 Speaker 4: wouldn't we let that happen? And I've heard interviews with 1781 01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:45,759 Speaker 4: people that worked on reality TV shows, like on podcasts 1782 01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:49,760 Speaker 4: and stuff, and when you hear like the haphazard way 1783 01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:52,919 Speaker 4: that it's done, like these are people that aren't very experienced. 1784 01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:55,599 Speaker 4: They have no like people don't have technical expertise. They're 1785 01:20:55,640 --> 01:20:57,479 Speaker 4: not they're not lawyers on set. 1786 01:20:58,000 --> 01:20:58,679 Speaker 6: They're just out. 1787 01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:00,599 Speaker 4: There being like O, just film every thing, just get 1788 01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:03,280 Speaker 4: it all and we'll cut it up later. And it's like, yes, 1789 01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:05,200 Speaker 4: it only takes one or two people to be like, 1790 01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:06,960 Speaker 4: you know, I don't see anything wrong with this. 1791 01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:08,160 Speaker 6: We get I mean, if it's. 1792 01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:10,519 Speaker 4: Bad, we'll cut it up later, right, No, nigga, now 1793 01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:14,679 Speaker 4: you gotta go to jail. So yep, a lot of money. 1794 01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:16,240 Speaker 4: But I could have told you all that when y'all, 1795 01:21:16,479 --> 01:21:18,479 Speaker 4: you know, cast the Mario, that this ship was gonna 1796 01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:21,559 Speaker 4: go down man'll had to know better. Okay, his last 1797 01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:25,519 Speaker 4: name is Jackson. That's that's the bottom line, Okay. Nicki 1798 01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:29,320 Speaker 4: Mina said she's playing to release a classic hip hop album. 1799 01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:33,240 Speaker 5: Oh robot, who wants that? 1800 01:21:34,240 --> 01:21:36,240 Speaker 4: What were the other attempts? I want to know what 1801 01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:39,160 Speaker 4: the other albums were. What were they supposed to be? 1802 01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:43,040 Speaker 6: Okay? Okay, so this she's gonna try this time. 1803 01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:48,360 Speaker 4: Yes, I don't know the alien futuristic space princess dog. 1804 01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:52,040 Speaker 6: I. I will say this, man. 1805 01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:57,120 Speaker 4: This feels a little bit like if you follow like basketball, football, whatever. 1806 01:21:57,360 --> 01:21:59,160 Speaker 4: This feels a little bit a bit like when an 1807 01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:02,760 Speaker 4: athlete turns thirty six thirty five and they come to 1808 01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:04,400 Speaker 4: training camp and they're like, I'm in the best shape 1809 01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:05,679 Speaker 4: I ever been in in my life. 1810 01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:07,760 Speaker 6: You know, I'm doing all kinds of things I've never 1811 01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:08,240 Speaker 6: done before. 1812 01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:10,519 Speaker 4: You're like, you, thirty six, dogs, there's no fucking way 1813 01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:11,600 Speaker 4: that's possible. 1814 01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:14,559 Speaker 7: Old, right, Well, that's your bones crack. 1815 01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:16,439 Speaker 6: Right, That's what this feels like. 1816 01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:19,600 Speaker 4: This feels like Peyton Manning saying at forty I'm in 1817 01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:21,080 Speaker 4: the best shape I've ever been in my life, and 1818 01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:24,040 Speaker 4: you're like, your neck can't move, you know. 1819 01:22:25,280 --> 01:22:26,719 Speaker 7: Your metabolism ain't the same. 1820 01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:30,439 Speaker 9: Yeah, like your bones pop nigga, what are we talking 1821 01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:30,720 Speaker 9: about it? 1822 01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:33,439 Speaker 4: I am a fan of Nikki when she's just rapping 1823 01:22:33,479 --> 01:22:37,160 Speaker 4: ass Nikki, but it's it feels like it's so few 1824 01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:40,280 Speaker 4: and far between. It's like rooting for Drake to put 1825 01:22:40,479 --> 01:22:43,760 Speaker 4: fifteen rap tracks together, like you're not gonna get it, 1826 01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:46,680 Speaker 4: so why Like, at some point it's my fault. 1827 01:22:46,400 --> 01:22:48,360 Speaker 6: For just expecting this nigga to stop singing. 1828 01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:51,160 Speaker 4: That's how I felt with Nikki. But for a long 1829 01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:53,640 Speaker 4: time now, I've just been like, I like, I like 1830 01:22:53,680 --> 01:22:55,920 Speaker 4: when she raps. I don't like a lot of people. 1831 01:22:56,760 --> 01:22:58,840 Speaker 4: They just don't see it for her no more. But 1832 01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:01,080 Speaker 4: for me personally, if are you rapping on somebody ship, 1833 01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:02,600 Speaker 4: I'll be like, oh that she goes. I love the 1834 01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:06,120 Speaker 4: Flawless remix verse. I love I fuck with Nikki when 1835 01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:09,280 Speaker 4: she rapping, when it's just so rare that she really 1836 01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:12,800 Speaker 4: rapping so right. I don't know if she really got 1837 01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:15,080 Speaker 4: it in her I hope so, NIGGI. I ain't rooting 1838 01:23:15,080 --> 01:23:17,400 Speaker 4: against you, but I. 1839 01:23:19,160 --> 01:23:23,160 Speaker 1: To remy my out here Wiln bringing out all the 1840 01:23:23,200 --> 01:23:27,240 Speaker 1: female and my girls too, my girl embarrassing the funk 1841 01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:27,720 Speaker 1: out of her. 1842 01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:28,519 Speaker 6: It's too late. 1843 01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:31,400 Speaker 4: It's too that that ship sailed like three months ago, 1844 01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:33,960 Speaker 4: six months ago. Like, I can't even remember how long 1845 01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:36,639 Speaker 4: ago the this was. It feels like it's been two years. 1846 01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:37,720 Speaker 6: No remy Ma. 1847 01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:42,120 Speaker 2: I just posted on Leslie's page earlier. Remy Ma was 1848 01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:42,840 Speaker 2: that what was. 1849 01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:43,559 Speaker 3: That in the Bronx. 1850 01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:46,720 Speaker 5: I think it's like that Summer Jam or whatever that 1851 01:23:47,080 --> 01:23:47,400 Speaker 5: thing is. 1852 01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:51,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was Summer Jam, and remy Ma like brought 1853 01:23:51,320 --> 01:23:54,759 Speaker 1: out basically all the while. 1854 01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:57,280 Speaker 10: Having a picture of Nikki up and being like fuck her, 1855 01:23:57,360 --> 01:24:02,000 Speaker 10: and then at the end has like Queen Latifa. 1856 01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:06,120 Speaker 5: Everybody, Hey, Cardi b like. 1857 01:24:06,200 --> 01:24:10,880 Speaker 1: In se light, like fucking little Kim, fucking everybody, and 1858 01:24:11,080 --> 01:24:13,639 Speaker 1: just basically made it look like I'm in the cool 1859 01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:15,400 Speaker 1: club anywhere. 1860 01:24:16,160 --> 01:24:20,519 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, look, it's I hope it works out, man, 1861 01:24:20,920 --> 01:24:22,640 Speaker 4: And I hope if she do the whole album, I 1862 01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:25,720 Speaker 4: actually hope she doesn't fall for the trap and try 1863 01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:29,519 Speaker 4: to like do some type of response because it's it's. 1864 01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:32,200 Speaker 2: Over Taylor Swift on the album. 1865 01:24:33,240 --> 01:24:37,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I love I love jay Z. 1866 01:24:37,680 --> 01:24:39,880 Speaker 4: I thought he had won the battle between him and 1867 01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:43,160 Speaker 4: Knaves between the Takeover and Ethan and shit, but then 1868 01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:47,880 Speaker 4: like afterwards he kept going and kept making more songs, 1869 01:24:47,880 --> 01:24:48,559 Speaker 4: this and this nigga. 1870 01:24:48,600 --> 01:24:52,160 Speaker 6: I was like, no, no, what did you do? No? No, Okay, 1871 01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:54,120 Speaker 6: Now it does seem like you think you lost cuz 1872 01:24:54,520 --> 01:24:55,519 Speaker 6: this nigga don't moved on. 1873 01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:58,080 Speaker 4: He on a whole nother album and you still talking 1874 01:24:58,120 --> 01:25:01,120 Speaker 4: shit about him. It's been too years. 1875 01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:03,200 Speaker 6: Let it go. It's nobody else cares. 1876 01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:05,920 Speaker 4: And so it was that kind of thing where if 1877 01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:10,320 Speaker 4: Nikki writes another fifteen bars or two whatever she's gonna do, 1878 01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:13,720 Speaker 4: it'll be so late she's gonna get clown for it. 1879 01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:15,280 Speaker 4: So I hope she just tried to put out the 1880 01:25:15,280 --> 01:25:18,200 Speaker 4: best rap album she can and we'll see if it 1881 01:25:18,479 --> 01:25:19,519 Speaker 4: can live up there. 1882 01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:23,200 Speaker 6: With the other you know, female mcs that have killed it. 1883 01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:26,479 Speaker 2: He just waving. 1884 01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:31,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's an audio you guys at home, it's an 1885 01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:32,760 Speaker 4: audio podcast. 1886 01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:37,679 Speaker 6: But she's been shaking. 1887 01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:40,679 Speaker 4: She's been shaking her head for quite some time, speaking 1888 01:25:40,680 --> 01:25:45,280 Speaker 4: of shaking his head. Exclusive one twelve's Q is in 1889 01:25:45,400 --> 01:25:49,400 Speaker 4: broad in a secret paternity drama over an alleged love child. 1890 01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:57,400 Speaker 5: Top Year Different, I think. 1891 01:25:57,280 --> 01:26:00,400 Speaker 6: You're thinking about my man from uh was it? Will 1892 01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:01,360 Speaker 6: they they? 1893 01:26:02,280 --> 01:26:05,400 Speaker 5: What Day twenty? 1894 01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:08,840 Speaker 4: Everybody got numbers in the seven seven days Late on 1895 01:26:08,880 --> 01:26:12,280 Speaker 4: the rint, Well, I think he I think you're thinking 1896 01:26:12,280 --> 01:26:13,479 Speaker 4: about my man from day. 1897 01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:16,280 Speaker 6: The rent is due on the on the fifth, and 1898 01:26:16,360 --> 01:26:18,720 Speaker 6: I'm a little late. Can you hold me over? 1899 01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:19,960 Speaker 1: Not? 1900 01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:24,120 Speaker 6: Q from one twelve is actually that's twelfth grade for me. 1901 01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:26,920 Speaker 7: With eleven twelfth grade, I was before my. 1902 01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:28,680 Speaker 2: Time, so I'm sitting this one out. 1903 01:26:28,720 --> 01:26:31,439 Speaker 7: I was twelve. Who's that? I was like seventeen years old. 1904 01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:32,559 Speaker 7: You know I'm old. 1905 01:26:32,600 --> 01:26:35,479 Speaker 9: So I kept hearing about one twelve one twelve and 1906 01:26:35,680 --> 01:26:38,680 Speaker 9: you couldn't you know, you have all the technology, No Spotify, 1907 01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:40,120 Speaker 9: none of that ship. So I had to go the 1908 01:26:40,160 --> 01:26:42,320 Speaker 9: best buy. That ship was sold that I was mad. 1909 01:26:43,240 --> 01:26:43,559 Speaker 8: He is. 1910 01:26:44,360 --> 01:26:46,280 Speaker 6: Listen that first one twelve album. 1911 01:26:46,040 --> 01:26:48,280 Speaker 7: Is Flames and it's still right. 1912 01:26:48,200 --> 01:26:53,679 Speaker 4: Flames, the straight Flames like I don't care uh. One twelve, 1913 01:26:53,840 --> 01:26:56,479 Speaker 4: Q was waging a secret legal battle over whether he 1914 01:26:56,560 --> 01:26:58,400 Speaker 4: really is the father of an eleven year old love 1915 01:26:58,520 --> 01:27:01,200 Speaker 4: child that he's been paying to support since the boy 1916 01:27:01,320 --> 01:27:13,280 Speaker 4: was born eighteen years a judgment judges Grant accused the 1917 01:27:13,320 --> 01:27:15,240 Speaker 4: quest to take a DNA test last week to see 1918 01:27:15,280 --> 01:27:19,679 Speaker 4: if he's really the child's father, Joshua Josiah Barnett, after 1919 01:27:19,720 --> 01:27:22,639 Speaker 4: the singer claimed that the boy's mom, Leah steel Barnett 1920 01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:25,400 Speaker 4: manipulating him in the child support agreement by threatening to 1921 01:27:25,400 --> 01:27:27,280 Speaker 4: tail Parker's wife about that affair. 1922 01:27:28,560 --> 01:27:29,120 Speaker 6: Now, see. 1923 01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:32,639 Speaker 2: Right, that's problem. 1924 01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:36,439 Speaker 7: It sounds it sound like. 1925 01:27:38,479 --> 01:27:41,000 Speaker 4: It sound like you was out of space and she 1926 01:27:41,200 --> 01:27:43,000 Speaker 4: was calling That's what it sounds like. 1927 01:27:46,920 --> 01:27:48,679 Speaker 6: You called that side chick bluff. 1928 01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:50,880 Speaker 4: But you you all you have was some clubs over 1929 01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:53,120 Speaker 4: there and she was cutting clubs. 1930 01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:55,080 Speaker 6: Dog, that's on you. You can't be like. 1931 01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:57,880 Speaker 4: And then eleven years later, what you and your wife 1932 01:27:57,880 --> 01:28:00,160 Speaker 4: getting a divorce so you finally could be like it 1933 01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:00,839 Speaker 4: ain't mine? 1934 01:28:01,080 --> 01:28:03,800 Speaker 6: Like what anyway his. 1935 01:28:03,880 --> 01:28:07,880 Speaker 1: Real name, if he is the baby father, because that's 1936 01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:11,200 Speaker 1: the greatest scim, that's a gen he probably deserve at 1937 01:28:11,200 --> 01:28:11,679 Speaker 1: that point. 1938 01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:12,639 Speaker 6: That's a g move. 1939 01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:16,160 Speaker 4: Like anybody listens to all these sport know that me 1940 01:28:16,200 --> 01:28:18,720 Speaker 4: and Justin we root for the side check. 1941 01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:22,040 Speaker 6: Okay. Uh, it's a it's a cold world out here 1942 01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:22,639 Speaker 6: with the men. 1943 01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:25,160 Speaker 4: Got out of money and you got out of honey. Okay, 1944 01:28:25,400 --> 01:28:27,720 Speaker 4: so you gotta you gotta find a way to get 1945 01:28:27,720 --> 01:28:29,600 Speaker 4: some of that money on your plate. And if you 1946 01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:31,960 Speaker 4: can trick one of these niggas into taking care of 1947 01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:34,760 Speaker 4: one of these kids, I mean, isn't it really his fault. 1948 01:28:34,880 --> 01:28:37,880 Speaker 6: Think about it. Ain't nobody making you not pull out. 1949 01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:43,040 Speaker 4: So yeah, his real name is Quinn ass Parker and 1950 01:28:43,360 --> 01:28:45,799 Speaker 4: he said it set in court papers. He was forced 1951 01:28:45,800 --> 01:28:48,280 Speaker 4: in the child' support through acts of fraud and duress, 1952 01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:51,839 Speaker 4: and still Barnett only produced testing results that were supposed 1953 01:28:51,880 --> 01:28:54,679 Speaker 4: to identify genetic defects and not an actual DNA test 1954 01:28:54,880 --> 01:28:55,880 Speaker 4: to prove he was a father. 1955 01:28:56,000 --> 01:28:57,120 Speaker 6: Well you feil for it. 1956 01:28:58,520 --> 01:29:01,760 Speaker 4: I mean you making it sound like, well, obviously I 1957 01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:03,240 Speaker 4: should have known not to do that. 1958 01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:06,599 Speaker 6: What You're gonna not be this boy's father after eleven years? 1959 01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:07,320 Speaker 6: It's too late. 1960 01:29:08,840 --> 01:29:11,320 Speaker 4: Oh I know you graduating seventh grade this year, but 1961 01:29:11,479 --> 01:29:12,240 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna be that. 1962 01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:16,439 Speaker 7: I'm not gonna be the graduation long time. But no 1963 01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:17,559 Speaker 7: doing this. 1964 01:29:18,080 --> 01:29:20,400 Speaker 5: On loving hip hop. So they really missing out because 1965 01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:21,160 Speaker 5: they could have him on. 1966 01:29:21,080 --> 01:29:24,240 Speaker 3: The Scott Check right sitting on that desk right now, 1967 01:29:24,360 --> 01:29:26,920 Speaker 3: going through all of this. 1968 01:29:27,080 --> 01:29:29,920 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna like twelve years because he don't want 1969 01:29:29,960 --> 01:29:31,200 Speaker 1: to take that chraternity test. 1970 01:29:31,240 --> 01:29:35,400 Speaker 4: So you know, yeah, y'all know he can't get no y'all. 1971 01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:37,160 Speaker 4: Y'all know he can't get no money. Y'all know he 1972 01:29:37,160 --> 01:29:39,559 Speaker 4: can't get no money, not till puff Daddy get his 1973 01:29:39,600 --> 01:29:43,280 Speaker 4: first y'all know he can't get no money. Y'all know 1974 01:29:43,320 --> 01:29:45,800 Speaker 4: he don't sign that three sixty deal contract. Now, it's 1975 01:29:45,800 --> 01:29:48,240 Speaker 4: no way Q could be on there and get some money. 1976 01:29:48,280 --> 01:29:51,479 Speaker 4: It's impossible that that that that money is gone. 1977 01:29:51,960 --> 01:29:55,720 Speaker 3: Remember one twelve be able to afford a household and 1978 01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:57,000 Speaker 3: side check payments. 1979 01:29:57,479 --> 01:29:59,000 Speaker 5: Something is up. I don't believe it. 1980 01:29:59,160 --> 01:30:02,519 Speaker 4: Something so and drugs or something, because I know he 1981 01:30:02,560 --> 01:30:04,840 Speaker 4: ain't spent it. I know he ain't spentished Sean P. 1982 01:30:05,040 --> 01:30:08,480 Speaker 4: Diddy Kohan's money of it. Nah, it's impossible. 1983 01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:11,360 Speaker 6: Uh yeah, parents says. 1984 01:30:11,400 --> 01:30:14,360 Speaker 4: In our case, miss Still used the results of the 1985 01:30:14,360 --> 01:30:17,000 Speaker 4: exam the pressure mister Parker in the stipulating he was 1986 01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:20,400 Speaker 4: the father of her child and agreeing to support judgment 1987 01:30:20,439 --> 01:30:22,000 Speaker 4: without the benefit of counsel, cues. 1988 01:30:22,040 --> 01:30:22,880 Speaker 6: Petition says. 1989 01:30:23,200 --> 01:30:25,639 Speaker 4: Moreover, knowing that mister Parker was married at the time 1990 01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:29,479 Speaker 4: and of their affair, Miss Still used the threat of 1991 01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:34,360 Speaker 4: disclosure of such of mister mister Parker's wife and family 1992 01:30:34,400 --> 01:30:37,200 Speaker 4: as a method to induce mister Parker into consenting to 1993 01:30:37,240 --> 01:30:40,920 Speaker 4: child support. First of all, if your family has not 1994 01:30:40,960 --> 01:30:44,120 Speaker 4: found out about this singer love child, that. 1995 01:30:44,040 --> 01:30:45,160 Speaker 6: Woman is a woman of. 1996 01:30:45,120 --> 01:30:48,839 Speaker 4: Her word, and you need to honor and cherish y'all's 1997 01:30:48,840 --> 01:30:51,519 Speaker 4: bargain because she could she could have blew. 1998 01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:54,000 Speaker 6: Your spot up at any fucking time. 1999 01:30:53,880 --> 01:30:57,680 Speaker 4: For eleven years, and she let it chill, and she 2000 01:30:57,920 --> 01:30:59,760 Speaker 4: just wanted child support like she ain't trying to eat 2001 01:30:59,800 --> 01:31:02,400 Speaker 4: you up and be like, uh, actually I need a 2002 01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:03,000 Speaker 4: car this week. 2003 01:31:03,080 --> 01:31:04,599 Speaker 7: You know, mm hmm. 2004 01:31:05,120 --> 01:31:06,559 Speaker 6: Don't y'all don't appreciate a good one. 2005 01:31:07,560 --> 01:31:07,800 Speaker 9: Uh. 2006 01:31:08,439 --> 01:31:11,479 Speaker 4: Parker said that after he agreed, the child support order 2007 01:31:11,560 --> 01:31:15,760 Speaker 4: still blocked several of his attempts to get a paternity test. Parker, Yeah, 2008 01:31:15,760 --> 01:31:17,719 Speaker 4: why would she let you get it after you agree? Nigga, 2009 01:31:17,760 --> 01:31:21,160 Speaker 4: that's your fault who agreed first and then but like, 2010 01:31:21,200 --> 01:31:22,360 Speaker 4: actually we should check on this. 2011 01:31:23,680 --> 01:31:25,679 Speaker 6: I'm good. Sounds like he's. 2012 01:31:25,880 --> 01:31:28,000 Speaker 2: Suing just because he was stupid, Like. 2013 01:31:28,520 --> 01:31:30,760 Speaker 6: Sound like it sounds you know. 2014 01:31:30,880 --> 01:31:33,960 Speaker 4: My guess would be something happened with him and his 2015 01:31:34,040 --> 01:31:37,679 Speaker 4: wife wife and now he can like come now, it's 2016 01:31:37,680 --> 01:31:40,080 Speaker 4: not gonna call him like maybe his his wife wife 2017 01:31:40,120 --> 01:31:44,000 Speaker 4: found out he was cheating or something. And now yeah, 2018 01:31:44,040 --> 01:31:45,640 Speaker 4: so now he like, well fuck it, I might as 2019 01:31:45,640 --> 01:31:47,720 Speaker 4: well see like get some money from this child'sport back 2020 01:31:48,160 --> 01:31:53,320 Speaker 4: too late, like for real out of money that's. 2021 01:31:55,320 --> 01:31:56,599 Speaker 7: A GIF if you ain't getting that money back. 2022 01:31:56,680 --> 01:32:00,360 Speaker 4: Parker, who has participated in the fatherhood initiative, insisted and 2023 01:32:00,760 --> 01:32:08,000 Speaker 4: assisted in court papers that a fatherhood initiative he assisted 2024 01:32:08,080 --> 01:32:10,040 Speaker 4: in court papers that he's not trying to shake his 2025 01:32:10,120 --> 01:32:11,599 Speaker 4: responsibilities of being a father. 2026 01:32:11,920 --> 01:32:13,479 Speaker 6: He just wants to know what the boy is really 2027 01:32:13,479 --> 01:32:13,920 Speaker 6: his son. 2028 01:32:14,880 --> 01:32:17,680 Speaker 4: Ultimately, mister Parker is not looking to a void responsibility 2029 01:32:17,720 --> 01:32:22,000 Speaker 4: of Miss Stell's child. Is his, Parker's petitionaries. However, mister 2030 01:32:22,080 --> 01:32:26,160 Speaker 4: Parker simply wishes to base his support on trustworthy paternity results. 2031 01:32:26,160 --> 01:32:28,680 Speaker 4: With a paternity agreement he is not forced into as 2032 01:32:28,680 --> 01:32:31,920 Speaker 4: a hostage of his marital situation and stature as an entertainer. 2033 01:32:32,240 --> 01:32:34,120 Speaker 4: With assistance of the competent counsel. 2034 01:32:35,640 --> 01:32:40,200 Speaker 2: But you're over halfway done. I don't I don't get it. 2035 01:32:40,920 --> 01:32:44,240 Speaker 4: Besides questioning whether the baby was his, Q also filed 2036 01:32:44,280 --> 01:32:46,840 Speaker 4: a participant in court to drastically reduce the amount of 2037 01:32:46,840 --> 01:32:49,920 Speaker 4: monthly child support he's required to pay if he is 2038 01:32:50,000 --> 01:32:50,800 Speaker 4: indeed jo side. 2039 01:32:50,840 --> 01:32:52,200 Speaker 6: He wants child support. 2040 01:32:52,040 --> 01:32:55,599 Speaker 4: Dropped from twenty two hundred and fifty dollars a month 2041 01:32:56,000 --> 01:32:58,639 Speaker 4: to three hundred and nine dollars and twenty seven cents 2042 01:32:58,640 --> 01:33:04,720 Speaker 4: a month. Nigga, what a loving ear al can live 2043 01:33:04,760 --> 01:33:05,240 Speaker 4: on that. 2044 01:33:07,000 --> 01:33:10,599 Speaker 5: In the world dollars It's not even rent. 2045 01:33:10,920 --> 01:33:14,200 Speaker 7: What are we talking about. 2046 01:33:14,680 --> 01:33:17,440 Speaker 3: I'm just saying you wasn't even paying the bare minimum 2047 01:33:17,640 --> 01:33:20,040 Speaker 3: to even keep a child clothes, bed and have a 2048 01:33:20,080 --> 01:33:20,880 Speaker 3: roof over their head. 2049 01:33:21,560 --> 01:33:23,240 Speaker 5: And I know they live in New York too, So. 2050 01:33:23,920 --> 01:33:26,960 Speaker 6: Like, no, good night. 2051 01:33:27,240 --> 01:33:28,639 Speaker 5: I can't. I can't even. 2052 01:33:29,200 --> 01:33:31,920 Speaker 4: You can't even that's not even a night in room 2053 01:33:31,920 --> 01:33:36,280 Speaker 4: one twelve, like you, that's not you. You can't even 2054 01:33:36,600 --> 01:33:38,720 Speaker 4: go to a hotel and be like I would like 2055 01:33:38,760 --> 01:33:40,360 Speaker 4: to check out room one twelve tonight. 2056 01:33:40,400 --> 01:33:42,759 Speaker 6: They would be like not for that little bit of money. 2057 01:33:43,600 --> 01:33:44,280 Speaker 6: He argued in. 2058 01:33:44,240 --> 01:33:48,760 Speaker 4: Court papers obtained by bossip shout Out to bossip U 2059 01:33:49,000 --> 01:33:51,920 Speaker 4: that he can't afford the current child support amount because 2060 01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:55,280 Speaker 4: his income is gone way down. Q claim in court 2061 01:33:55,320 --> 01:33:57,960 Speaker 4: documents that he now makes twenty five hundred dollars each 2062 01:33:58,000 --> 01:34:01,920 Speaker 4: month while he's alleged baby mama still Barnett is now 2063 01:34:01,960 --> 01:34:03,759 Speaker 4: bringing in more than eight thousand dollars. 2064 01:34:04,080 --> 01:34:08,679 Speaker 6: He argued that he yes, right, she came up. 2065 01:34:08,840 --> 01:34:11,479 Speaker 5: Come through Queens. 2066 01:34:11,720 --> 01:34:14,360 Speaker 6: Yeah. He argued that he is the father. 2067 01:34:14,479 --> 01:34:17,360 Speaker 4: If he is the father, she should start paying one 2068 01:34:17,400 --> 01:34:20,240 Speaker 4: thousand and thirty dollars a month towards jo signs upkeep 2069 01:34:21,080 --> 01:34:24,120 Speaker 4: Q's Folkswoman said the singer and his family have been 2070 01:34:24,120 --> 01:34:26,840 Speaker 4: dealing with his infidelity and his alleged love child for 2071 01:34:26,880 --> 01:34:29,040 Speaker 4: several years and has gotten through it with the help 2072 01:34:29,080 --> 01:34:29,759 Speaker 4: of their pastor. 2073 01:34:30,439 --> 01:34:31,680 Speaker 6: Shout out the passes. 2074 01:34:31,360 --> 01:34:34,800 Speaker 4: Coming through, coming through for uh, they've been coming through 2075 01:34:34,800 --> 01:34:37,480 Speaker 4: for Wait what did you say, Rissa. 2076 01:34:38,360 --> 01:34:42,480 Speaker 2: It's going to be it's not claiming kid, not claiming. 2077 01:34:42,240 --> 01:34:45,599 Speaker 7: Kid, but if it is your kid, you gotta get. 2078 01:34:45,439 --> 01:34:49,599 Speaker 1: Those Walmart you know, get the get those child support 2079 01:34:49,640 --> 01:34:50,519 Speaker 1: payments brought. 2080 01:34:50,320 --> 01:34:53,919 Speaker 2: Down from like a an uh an. 2081 01:34:53,800 --> 01:34:57,559 Speaker 1: Abricomian fish to like a Walmart type level. 2082 01:34:58,000 --> 01:35:01,000 Speaker 2: Bring it down load she's she's hustling you. 2083 01:35:01,960 --> 01:35:10,200 Speaker 3: I feel like, watch it's gonna be the pastor in 2084 01:35:10,280 --> 01:35:13,920 Speaker 3: the past and even work. Listen this yes, not what's 2085 01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:14,320 Speaker 3: going on. 2086 01:35:14,680 --> 01:35:16,920 Speaker 6: My thing is the pastors. 2087 01:35:17,720 --> 01:35:22,559 Speaker 4: Uh, Like pastors are the real MVPs of keeping women 2088 01:35:22,600 --> 01:35:26,000 Speaker 4: with ain't ship men like mom. Nobody will come in 2089 01:35:26,200 --> 01:35:29,559 Speaker 4: and have a man's back like a pastor. Like like, 2090 01:35:29,640 --> 01:35:31,439 Speaker 4: I don't even know how women get tricked into that 2091 01:35:31,439 --> 01:35:34,840 Speaker 4: one where it's like we should go talk to the pastors. No, 2092 01:35:34,960 --> 01:35:38,200 Speaker 4: let's go talk to the marriage counselor or something, because I 2093 01:35:38,280 --> 01:35:40,519 Speaker 4: need somebody that's on my side. Pastors just gonna come 2094 01:35:40,560 --> 01:35:42,320 Speaker 4: in and be like, you know, David had to sow 2095 01:35:42,360 --> 01:35:43,639 Speaker 4: his oats or whatever the fuck? 2096 01:35:44,200 --> 01:35:48,160 Speaker 6: Nah, don't fall of that, uh anyway, you. 2097 01:35:48,200 --> 01:35:50,640 Speaker 2: Actually just so proud of this baby mama. 2098 01:35:50,640 --> 01:35:51,040 Speaker 6: Me too. 2099 01:35:51,240 --> 01:35:55,960 Speaker 4: Or my favorite part is that she didn't let him 2100 01:35:56,040 --> 01:35:57,840 Speaker 4: not being shipped and falling off. 2101 01:35:58,160 --> 01:35:59,479 Speaker 6: She never let it hold her back. 2102 01:36:00,760 --> 01:36:03,680 Speaker 2: You know she wants. 2103 01:36:04,280 --> 01:36:07,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, he can't even pull the like my baby mama. 2104 01:36:07,400 --> 01:36:09,400 Speaker 4: Just try and get some money off of me. I 2105 01:36:09,520 --> 01:36:12,439 Speaker 4: make more of you. Nigga, what are you talking about? Like, 2106 01:36:12,560 --> 01:36:16,920 Speaker 4: just put in your part right, Just put in your part? 2107 01:36:17,000 --> 01:36:17,920 Speaker 6: Dog, You don't. 2108 01:36:18,240 --> 01:36:21,080 Speaker 4: You don't put in enough? Is the problem here? I 2109 01:36:21,479 --> 01:36:23,160 Speaker 4: still put it in my part. 2110 01:36:23,439 --> 01:36:23,679 Speaker 1: Uh. 2111 01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:24,600 Speaker 6: It's unfortunate the. 2112 01:36:24,640 --> 01:36:27,200 Speaker 4: Other parties attending to publicly shame a man who is 2113 01:36:27,240 --> 01:36:30,160 Speaker 4: not only being compliant and working towards mutual resolve, but 2114 01:36:30,200 --> 01:36:32,800 Speaker 4: more poorly, has been dedicated to rebuilding his family through 2115 01:36:32,800 --> 01:36:35,920 Speaker 4: faith and respectfully, turning this situation to an opportunity to 2116 01:36:35,920 --> 01:36:38,960 Speaker 4: teach young men the value of family, fatherhood, and discipline. 2117 01:36:39,040 --> 01:36:42,760 Speaker 4: Q's spokeswoman told Bossip in a statement. She added, as 2118 01:36:42,840 --> 01:36:44,959 Speaker 4: Q and his wife continue, I feel like a spokeswoman 2119 01:36:45,040 --> 01:36:45,599 Speaker 4: is his wife. 2120 01:36:45,920 --> 01:36:51,400 Speaker 2: Uh, spokeswoman a month. I'm just trying to understand. 2121 01:36:51,520 --> 01:36:53,400 Speaker 6: I'm pretty sure the spokeswoman is his wife. 2122 01:36:54,240 --> 01:36:56,439 Speaker 4: That's the only that's the only way this works, because 2123 01:36:56,479 --> 01:36:58,960 Speaker 4: you know, his wife ain'tlett him cut another check to 2124 01:36:59,040 --> 01:37:02,560 Speaker 4: another woman. Know as Q and his wife continued to 2125 01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:04,160 Speaker 4: strengthen their union, family and business. 2126 01:37:04,200 --> 01:37:07,080 Speaker 6: We refuse to let this see she slept, she slept, 2127 01:37:07,439 --> 01:37:08,080 Speaker 6: she slept. 2128 01:37:08,400 --> 01:37:11,760 Speaker 4: We refused to let this very private matter inflict anymore pain. 2129 01:37:12,080 --> 01:37:15,200 Speaker 6: We we I thought you was just most of it, 2130 01:37:15,560 --> 01:37:20,439 Speaker 6: don't you mean? They This is a quote. This is 2131 01:37:20,520 --> 01:37:23,320 Speaker 6: verbato from the quote. This is from the her. 2132 01:37:24,160 --> 01:37:26,599 Speaker 4: So what I imagine you gotta protect Joe, You gotta 2133 01:37:26,640 --> 01:37:27,920 Speaker 4: protect the bad too. 2134 01:37:28,160 --> 01:37:31,839 Speaker 7: You got to secure take his money, That's. 2135 01:37:31,680 --> 01:37:32,080 Speaker 5: What it is. 2136 01:37:32,120 --> 01:37:34,080 Speaker 3: He got to the point where he couldn't hide the payments, 2137 01:37:34,080 --> 01:37:36,880 Speaker 3: no more, right, And she was like, I mean, you 2138 01:37:36,920 --> 01:37:39,000 Speaker 3: ain't got enough money for me to do X y Z. 2139 01:37:39,120 --> 01:37:41,479 Speaker 3: And he was like, all right, well, for eleven years 2140 01:37:41,680 --> 01:37:43,960 Speaker 3: I've been paying this money to this girl. But you 2141 01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:46,599 Speaker 3: know it might not even be mine because the DNA 2142 01:37:46,680 --> 01:37:49,360 Speaker 3: test wasn't even legit, but you know, I didn't want. 2143 01:37:49,240 --> 01:37:49,920 Speaker 5: You to find out. 2144 01:37:49,920 --> 01:37:51,640 Speaker 6: I could hear her all, all. 2145 01:37:51,439 --> 01:37:54,519 Speaker 3: Of the fucking excuses he gave her, and she was like, well, 2146 01:37:54,640 --> 01:37:56,439 Speaker 3: we need to we need to put out a press release. 2147 01:37:56,720 --> 01:37:58,839 Speaker 5: Let's let's make sure we on the record. 2148 01:37:59,240 --> 01:38:01,519 Speaker 2: I thought, you know what, Okay, I hope this goes 2149 01:38:01,560 --> 01:38:02,439 Speaker 2: on for seven. 2150 01:38:02,240 --> 01:38:05,439 Speaker 6: Years, like you know what, Q. 2151 01:38:05,720 --> 01:38:13,360 Speaker 4: I thought Cupid doesn't lie, but apparently Cupid does lie. Okay, Yeah, 2152 01:38:13,400 --> 01:38:18,719 Speaker 4: so she I guess he wasn't keep it real anyway. 2153 01:38:19,040 --> 01:38:22,240 Speaker 4: Uh yeah, she says, he was like. 2154 01:38:22,280 --> 01:38:25,439 Speaker 7: You must be used to me spending. 2155 01:38:26,439 --> 01:38:29,320 Speaker 6: That is R Kelly from fucking you night. But yes 2156 01:38:30,800 --> 01:38:32,160 Speaker 6: that was a bad boy. 2157 01:38:32,040 --> 01:38:36,559 Speaker 7: So yes, it was related. 2158 01:38:36,640 --> 01:38:38,920 Speaker 4: He's experiencing the pleasure in the pain right now, Karen 2159 01:38:39,200 --> 01:38:40,200 Speaker 4: is what's going on? 2160 01:38:42,680 --> 01:38:44,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, so she says, we take our. 2161 01:38:45,160 --> 01:38:49,080 Speaker 9: Account because no, no, no, no, hopefully listened to the 2162 01:38:49,160 --> 01:38:49,559 Speaker 9: KEYD No. 2163 01:38:50,800 --> 01:38:52,880 Speaker 6: Well, you know what, life can't always be peaches and cream, 2164 01:38:52,920 --> 01:38:53,639 Speaker 6: can Okay? 2165 01:38:55,320 --> 01:38:58,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, we refuse to let this very private matter inflict 2166 01:38:58,840 --> 01:39:01,759 Speaker 4: any more pain than it already has on their family 2167 01:39:01,840 --> 01:39:03,400 Speaker 4: and asked, yes. 2168 01:39:03,240 --> 01:39:09,240 Speaker 6: She switched from we today. 2169 01:39:07,400 --> 01:39:09,840 Speaker 2: But you're putting out a press release. 2170 01:39:10,320 --> 01:39:14,600 Speaker 4: Right right, and asked that they that you respect their privacy. 2171 01:39:14,720 --> 01:39:17,439 Speaker 4: Any legal matters associated the situation will be dealt with 2172 01:39:17,439 --> 01:39:19,840 Speaker 4: through the proper legal channels. We reached out to steal 2173 01:39:19,880 --> 01:39:22,439 Speaker 4: our next lawyer for comment, and of course she was like, 2174 01:39:22,520 --> 01:39:25,920 Speaker 4: I'm already running coins and if it don't make me come, 2175 01:39:26,040 --> 01:39:26,400 Speaker 4: don't it. 2176 01:39:26,400 --> 01:39:27,240 Speaker 6: Don't get me paid. 2177 01:39:31,080 --> 01:39:35,439 Speaker 4: Oh man, good for her, Good for her. All right, 2178 01:39:35,560 --> 01:39:39,280 Speaker 4: let's move into some other stuff. Okay, guys, still a 2179 01:39:39,280 --> 01:39:45,120 Speaker 4: little bit of fucking with black people. Let me uh 2180 01:39:45,240 --> 01:39:51,520 Speaker 4: that segment on Q is over now, guys. Okay, uh 2181 01:39:52,080 --> 01:39:54,560 Speaker 4: oh boy, Marissa. 2182 01:39:54,320 --> 01:39:58,920 Speaker 6: Get these jokes when she googles. Uh, all right, here 2183 01:39:59,000 --> 01:40:00,920 Speaker 6: we go, y'all. 2184 01:40:00,880 --> 01:40:02,559 Speaker 5: Who knows that. 2185 01:40:08,240 --> 01:40:10,920 Speaker 4: We're just fucking with those black people. We're just fucking 2186 01:40:11,000 --> 01:40:15,519 Speaker 4: with those blacks. We're just fucking with fucking with black people. 2187 01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:18,040 Speaker 4: That's right, guys, trying to play the game, and we 2188 01:40:18,080 --> 01:40:18,880 Speaker 4: all hate to play. 2189 01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:20,880 Speaker 6: It's fucking with black people the game. 2190 01:40:20,960 --> 01:40:23,000 Speaker 4: We go all around the globe and we find different 2191 01:40:23,040 --> 01:40:25,599 Speaker 4: articles that make us feel fucked with, and we score 2192 01:40:25,640 --> 01:40:27,679 Speaker 4: them from zero two hundred and intervals of twenty five 2193 01:40:27,760 --> 01:40:28,840 Speaker 4: today's contestings. 2194 01:40:28,880 --> 01:40:32,479 Speaker 6: Everybody, yay, all right. 2195 01:40:32,840 --> 01:40:35,920 Speaker 3: Kitty, Before we start, I did want to just mention 2196 01:40:36,200 --> 01:40:39,760 Speaker 3: about Marissa's age, that there is a specific, you know, 2197 01:40:41,640 --> 01:40:44,320 Speaker 3: friction that exists when you have a partner that's fifteen 2198 01:40:44,400 --> 01:40:47,840 Speaker 3: years younger than you. You don't know half the stuff. 2199 01:40:47,880 --> 01:40:50,160 Speaker 3: But the only good thing is Marisa's kind of a luddite. 2200 01:40:50,200 --> 01:40:52,439 Speaker 3: She's not a very tech She's like the one millennial 2201 01:40:52,520 --> 01:40:52,880 Speaker 3: that's like. 2202 01:40:52,840 --> 01:40:54,040 Speaker 5: I don't like technology. 2203 01:40:55,720 --> 01:40:59,760 Speaker 1: Well I know this issad so we eat eating things 2204 01:40:59,800 --> 01:41:00,360 Speaker 1: out but no. 2205 01:41:00,400 --> 01:41:02,320 Speaker 3: But on a serious tip, though, I think one of 2206 01:41:02,360 --> 01:41:04,479 Speaker 3: the it's actually one of the strengths of our partnership though, 2207 01:41:04,840 --> 01:41:07,160 Speaker 3: is our age difference. I think that a lot of 2208 01:41:07,240 --> 01:41:10,160 Speaker 3: people in my generation or who are my age missed 2209 01:41:10,200 --> 01:41:14,160 Speaker 3: the brilliance of younger people, and so I'm so blessed 2210 01:41:14,160 --> 01:41:15,720 Speaker 3: to work with somebody that is younger than me. 2211 01:41:15,800 --> 01:41:17,080 Speaker 7: So yeah, people, you. 2212 01:41:17,000 --> 01:41:19,000 Speaker 1: See how she had to turn it around so it 2213 01:41:19,080 --> 01:41:20,400 Speaker 1: wasn't just dragging. 2214 01:41:20,560 --> 01:41:21,760 Speaker 2: She had to like do the like. 2215 01:41:22,600 --> 01:41:25,000 Speaker 5: But she is the technophobe. That's true. 2216 01:41:25,080 --> 01:41:28,320 Speaker 4: Well, I do have like, uh because I don't like 2217 01:41:28,880 --> 01:41:32,160 Speaker 4: my friendships on social media. So I because so many 2218 01:41:32,280 --> 01:41:34,320 Speaker 4: people that do like me. I'm always like, why do 2219 01:41:34,400 --> 01:41:34,880 Speaker 4: you like me? 2220 01:41:35,040 --> 01:41:35,240 Speaker 6: Yeah? 2221 01:41:35,520 --> 01:41:36,519 Speaker 7: You fall out with them? 2222 01:41:36,720 --> 01:41:38,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I don't even fall out. No, I'm no, 2223 01:41:39,040 --> 01:41:41,000 Speaker 4: I'm saying I don't even fall out with these people. 2224 01:41:41,040 --> 01:41:41,840 Speaker 6: They just like me. 2225 01:41:42,400 --> 01:41:46,759 Speaker 4: But I'm always of the like, but you seem way 2226 01:41:46,800 --> 01:41:48,960 Speaker 4: more like better than me, you know what I mean, 2227 01:41:49,120 --> 01:41:54,240 Speaker 4: like politically, like uh, you know what I mean, Like 2228 01:41:54,240 --> 01:41:57,960 Speaker 4: your pro blackness is like more radical than mine and shit, 2229 01:41:58,000 --> 01:41:59,680 Speaker 4: and I'm just like I'm just waiting for the day 2230 01:41:59,720 --> 01:42:02,599 Speaker 4: that I'm just like, hey man, I love the Obama's 2231 01:42:02,600 --> 01:42:03,920 Speaker 4: look at this black family, and you need to be. 2232 01:42:03,880 --> 01:42:07,640 Speaker 6: Like you neil capitalists. Put the crack motherfucker. I'll be like, 2233 01:42:07,680 --> 01:42:09,280 Speaker 6: you know what this was, it was coming. 2234 01:42:09,320 --> 01:42:11,240 Speaker 1: I mean, going back at the podcast all the time, 2235 01:42:11,280 --> 01:42:12,640 Speaker 1: I just be like, let me skip for it. 2236 01:42:14,479 --> 01:42:18,400 Speaker 4: I appreciate, let me appreciate y'all allowing me the space 2237 01:42:18,439 --> 01:42:20,320 Speaker 4: to be that. You know, and I and I try 2238 01:42:20,320 --> 01:42:22,240 Speaker 4: to do the same because you know, Lord knows how 2239 01:42:22,240 --> 01:42:24,439 Speaker 4: to go to their page and they be like listen, 2240 01:42:25,120 --> 01:42:28,360 Speaker 4: fuck Obama and everybody that fuck with him, and I'll 2241 01:42:28,400 --> 01:42:29,880 Speaker 4: be like scroll past that one. 2242 01:42:30,360 --> 01:42:33,680 Speaker 6: That's oh, she got it, she got it, she got 2243 01:42:33,680 --> 01:42:34,599 Speaker 6: a new gold fish. 2244 01:42:36,080 --> 01:42:37,639 Speaker 7: You look at me a lot. Timeline. 2245 01:42:37,640 --> 01:42:40,519 Speaker 1: It is like lok tweets just like back and forth. 2246 01:42:41,479 --> 01:42:43,519 Speaker 6: I'm like I'm like, oh, look, she got a gold fish. 2247 01:42:43,640 --> 01:42:46,559 Speaker 6: Oh good for her. That was a good gold fish. 2248 01:42:46,800 --> 01:42:48,760 Speaker 4: But I feel like that's half my half the people 2249 01:42:48,800 --> 01:42:51,760 Speaker 4: I know, it's like that, Like it's like everybody is 2250 01:42:51,800 --> 01:42:56,599 Speaker 4: either like my age or like super radical, like young 2251 01:42:56,640 --> 01:42:57,559 Speaker 4: black people and ship. 2252 01:42:57,680 --> 01:43:00,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm like, I'm sorry to let y'all. 2253 01:43:01,320 --> 01:43:02,120 Speaker 6: I'm almost forty. 2254 01:43:02,720 --> 01:43:05,879 Speaker 7: Sometimes I'm just mad. I'm not that radical people. No, 2255 01:43:05,920 --> 01:43:06,320 Speaker 7: I'm just. 2256 01:43:06,320 --> 01:43:07,000 Speaker 6: I'm like, I grew up. 2257 01:43:07,040 --> 01:43:09,200 Speaker 4: I grew up thinking we couldn't have a black president. 2258 01:43:09,240 --> 01:43:11,040 Speaker 4: So I'm gonna just like cherish these niggas for a 2259 01:43:11,080 --> 01:43:11,599 Speaker 4: little longer. 2260 01:43:12,000 --> 01:43:15,000 Speaker 6: Uh, and then well we'll, you know, we'll let you 2261 01:43:15,080 --> 01:43:18,760 Speaker 6: beat the generation. It's like, fuck that ship, don't I want. 2262 01:43:18,520 --> 01:43:20,840 Speaker 4: A nigga president, like, you know, And then I'll be 2263 01:43:20,880 --> 01:43:24,280 Speaker 4: excited when we get to nigga president, Like I'll celebrate. 2264 01:43:23,840 --> 01:43:30,400 Speaker 2: That I'm getting older. My birthday is on Sunday, actually. 2265 01:43:30,960 --> 01:43:33,240 Speaker 4: Is well, you know every That's the other thing too, 2266 01:43:34,240 --> 01:43:38,519 Speaker 4: because I think, yeah, like you like, not enough people, 2267 01:43:39,400 --> 01:43:43,280 Speaker 4: not enough people put stock into the fact that everybody's 2268 01:43:43,320 --> 01:43:46,360 Speaker 4: on different points in their journey. Yes they are, and 2269 01:43:46,400 --> 01:43:48,840 Speaker 4: so sometimes I'll see people arguing, but you're really just 2270 01:43:48,960 --> 01:43:53,160 Speaker 4: arguing philosophy. You know, like I because and and and 2271 01:43:53,240 --> 01:43:57,200 Speaker 4: especially older people, because younger people don't know no better, 2272 01:43:57,680 --> 01:44:00,400 Speaker 4: but older people we do know better because we when 2273 01:44:00,400 --> 01:44:03,000 Speaker 4: we were thinking that same shit, like we all had 2274 01:44:03,240 --> 01:44:06,840 Speaker 4: a militant phase that was like so militant that it 2275 01:44:06,960 --> 01:44:09,960 Speaker 4: was like, nigga, you know that's not gonna have like 2276 01:44:10,400 --> 01:44:12,559 Speaker 4: we all had, like your mom like you like, what 2277 01:44:12,600 --> 01:44:14,080 Speaker 4: we need to do is go down to the student 2278 01:44:14,120 --> 01:44:16,760 Speaker 4: square and smack George Bush and his motherfucking face. And 2279 01:44:16,760 --> 01:44:19,800 Speaker 4: your mom was like okay, like that that the time 2280 01:44:19,840 --> 01:44:21,840 Speaker 4: for that is for you for now. But you know 2281 01:44:22,200 --> 01:44:23,639 Speaker 4: you will have to get a job and get out 2282 01:44:23,680 --> 01:44:24,080 Speaker 4: my house. 2283 01:44:25,400 --> 01:44:25,880 Speaker 7: One day. 2284 01:44:26,200 --> 01:44:27,960 Speaker 9: I know, the white man make you mad, but one 2285 01:44:28,000 --> 01:44:29,439 Speaker 9: day the white man gonna be paying you. 2286 01:44:29,600 --> 01:44:32,400 Speaker 4: Right, So, like we all had that like inner balance 2287 01:44:32,400 --> 01:44:34,800 Speaker 4: and inner turmoil or whatever. But I do see people 2288 01:44:34,880 --> 01:44:37,920 Speaker 4: like come down so a lot, and I think it's 2289 01:44:37,960 --> 01:44:39,680 Speaker 4: a little different when young people kind of come at 2290 01:44:39,720 --> 01:44:41,760 Speaker 4: the older stabus, and I feel like that's that's kind 2291 01:44:41,800 --> 01:44:43,840 Speaker 4: of part for the course, like that's just gonna happen. 2292 01:44:45,120 --> 01:44:48,040 Speaker 6: But yeah, so I anyway, people, I can't. 2293 01:44:47,840 --> 01:44:50,479 Speaker 1: Wait till I sell outfe it will be so much easier. 2294 01:44:50,760 --> 01:44:53,400 Speaker 1: Somebody tag me something this morning talking about like, oh, 2295 01:44:53,600 --> 01:44:56,360 Speaker 1: I can't wait till Marissa runs for president because I'm like, 2296 01:44:56,400 --> 01:44:58,280 Speaker 1: I would never run for no fuck shit office. And 2297 01:44:58,280 --> 01:45:00,559 Speaker 1: they're like, well, I'm hoping you will some I'm like, 2298 01:45:00,600 --> 01:45:02,680 Speaker 1: you know what, God willing someday I will sell out 2299 01:45:02,680 --> 01:45:05,240 Speaker 1: and be like, listen, I'm done with this ship because 2300 01:45:05,479 --> 01:45:09,840 Speaker 1: it is dangerous. Let me do something comfortable and reformists 2301 01:45:10,200 --> 01:45:10,439 Speaker 1: hear it. 2302 01:45:10,479 --> 01:45:12,719 Speaker 2: Call me a democrat. You know what. 2303 01:45:14,760 --> 01:45:15,240 Speaker 6: I've said. 2304 01:45:16,000 --> 01:45:18,200 Speaker 4: I think I said a long time ago. Caaren reminded me. 2305 01:45:18,240 --> 01:45:20,479 Speaker 4: We were just talking in general at lunch the other 2306 01:45:20,520 --> 01:45:23,720 Speaker 4: day and she was like, you, I know what. It was, 2307 01:45:23,800 --> 01:45:25,040 Speaker 4: matter of fact, we might as well do this first 2308 01:45:25,080 --> 01:45:25,960 Speaker 4: for fucking black people. 2309 01:45:26,280 --> 01:45:28,200 Speaker 6: It was about Deray because Deray. 2310 01:45:28,200 --> 01:45:32,720 Speaker 4: Has a podcast called pod Saves America, something like say 2311 01:45:32,760 --> 01:45:34,200 Speaker 4: the People, Say People. 2312 01:45:35,680 --> 01:45:39,200 Speaker 6: And a and like a tweet guy released that's like. 2313 01:45:39,120 --> 01:45:41,599 Speaker 4: A promo for the show, and it's like a two 2314 01:45:41,640 --> 01:45:45,320 Speaker 4: minute video clip and it's him interviewing Katy Perry and 2315 01:45:45,400 --> 01:45:48,000 Speaker 4: so of course, you know, like all promo clips, is 2316 01:45:48,000 --> 01:45:51,200 Speaker 4: designed to get people talking about it. Also, like all 2317 01:45:51,200 --> 01:45:54,440 Speaker 4: promo clips, it's two minutes of a sixty minute conversation 2318 01:45:55,920 --> 01:45:58,080 Speaker 4: and you just put it out into the world without 2319 01:45:58,200 --> 01:46:01,000 Speaker 4: like a lot of context for people people are gonna 2320 01:46:01,040 --> 01:46:05,080 Speaker 4: assume for good and bad whatever, and then obviously arguing happened, 2321 01:46:05,320 --> 01:46:09,320 Speaker 4: Dragon happened, Shit was trending, motherfuckers was fighting like it was. 2322 01:46:09,800 --> 01:46:12,120 Speaker 6: It was a lot all at the same time. 2323 01:46:12,400 --> 01:46:15,559 Speaker 4: But Karen was I was telling Karen reminded me that 2324 01:46:15,680 --> 01:46:18,360 Speaker 4: I said something a long time ago, which is all 2325 01:46:18,439 --> 01:46:23,080 Speaker 4: this shit with these people being like super radical, risking 2326 01:46:23,080 --> 01:46:27,120 Speaker 4: their lives, getting arrested, peppers, all that shit for a 2327 01:46:27,120 --> 01:46:29,240 Speaker 4: lot of people that's gonna have it will come to 2328 01:46:29,280 --> 01:46:31,640 Speaker 4: an end one day and then it's like, what are 2329 01:46:31,640 --> 01:46:33,639 Speaker 4: you gonna move on with the rest of your life, 2330 01:46:33,640 --> 01:46:36,799 Speaker 4: because unless you're just gonna be getting, you know, pepper 2331 01:46:36,840 --> 01:46:40,320 Speaker 4: sprayed and showing up places, especially if we're being frank 2332 01:46:40,840 --> 01:46:43,240 Speaker 4: foul free, most people want you to do it faux free, 2333 01:46:43,360 --> 01:46:45,840 Speaker 4: and like not just foul free, as in I don't 2334 01:46:45,840 --> 01:46:47,840 Speaker 4: want to put nothing on it, but like your ass 2335 01:46:47,840 --> 01:46:50,400 Speaker 4: better be broke, Like if I see you pull up 2336 01:46:50,520 --> 01:46:53,320 Speaker 4: and your car look a little too nice, you a 2337 01:46:53,360 --> 01:46:56,639 Speaker 4: motherfucker and bezzling ass coon that sold out the black 2338 01:46:56,680 --> 01:46:59,519 Speaker 4: community and shit like that. So I think eventually all 2339 01:46:59,560 --> 01:47:01,679 Speaker 4: these people gonna move on and I think people should 2340 01:47:01,680 --> 01:47:04,120 Speaker 4: allow them space to move on at some point because 2341 01:47:04,760 --> 01:47:06,960 Speaker 4: they might not. Where they're at now is I don't 2342 01:47:06,960 --> 01:47:09,439 Speaker 4: think they're gonna end up, you know, and unless it's 2343 01:47:09,439 --> 01:47:11,240 Speaker 4: gonna be like a lot of the activists of our 2344 01:47:11,280 --> 01:47:15,439 Speaker 4: age or before our age, which they got killed, you know. 2345 01:47:15,520 --> 01:47:20,880 Speaker 1: Like, okay, essential point. Do you see a point where 2346 01:47:21,080 --> 01:47:22,120 Speaker 1: she put her hand. 2347 01:47:21,920 --> 01:47:22,559 Speaker 2: On his knee. 2348 01:47:22,720 --> 01:47:24,920 Speaker 6: I did see that. I'm about to I'm about to. 2349 01:47:25,040 --> 01:47:27,200 Speaker 1: You know what I heard when I when I saw 2350 01:47:27,240 --> 01:47:30,400 Speaker 1: that it's an officer stuff. 2351 01:47:34,040 --> 01:47:35,880 Speaker 6: I'm about to play the audio of it. You guys 2352 01:47:35,880 --> 01:47:36,280 Speaker 6: want to be. 2353 01:47:39,400 --> 01:47:44,160 Speaker 1: Okay, And I was like, and I took the screen grab. 2354 01:47:44,880 --> 01:47:47,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, oh I saw That's what I saw first. I 2355 01:47:47,479 --> 01:47:48,280 Speaker 4: didn't see the video. 2356 01:47:48,439 --> 01:47:48,759 Speaker 6: First. 2357 01:47:49,280 --> 01:47:54,760 Speaker 4: I saw people trending and making jokes about that, making 2358 01:47:54,880 --> 01:47:57,640 Speaker 4: jokes about that screen graph. Yeah, like she like she 2359 01:47:57,840 --> 01:48:01,800 Speaker 4: patting him, She looked like this, And I was just like, yeah, 2360 01:48:01,960 --> 01:48:04,360 Speaker 4: that's not a good that's not gonna be a good look. 2361 01:48:04,400 --> 01:48:06,240 Speaker 6: But like I said, d. 2362 01:48:06,320 --> 01:48:08,519 Speaker 4: Ray might end up being over. I don't know what 2363 01:48:08,520 --> 01:48:10,400 Speaker 4: the fuck he's gonna do for the rest of his life. 2364 01:48:10,439 --> 01:48:12,680 Speaker 4: Maybe he not gonna you know what I mean. I 2365 01:48:12,680 --> 01:48:15,599 Speaker 4: think everyone thinks all the people that they see that 2366 01:48:15,640 --> 01:48:19,280 Speaker 4: are in uh, these different movements that are activists. They 2367 01:48:19,320 --> 01:48:21,840 Speaker 4: see them like they're gonna be Malcolm X, They're gonna 2368 01:48:21,840 --> 01:48:24,680 Speaker 4: be Martin Luther King, they gonna, well, somebody gonna be 2369 01:48:24,680 --> 01:48:28,920 Speaker 4: my Reverend Jesse Jackson, somebody gonna end up being out sharp, 2370 01:48:29,000 --> 01:48:32,599 Speaker 4: and somebody gonna be John Lewis who went in the politics. 2371 01:48:33,040 --> 01:48:33,759 Speaker 2: That sounds perfect. 2372 01:48:33,840 --> 01:48:36,599 Speaker 4: Yeah, somebody gonna be something, Like everybody gonna be something, 2373 01:48:36,800 --> 01:48:39,800 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like like I think it's 2374 01:48:39,840 --> 01:48:43,200 Speaker 4: kind of that Cash twenty two of blackness, especially pro blackness. 2375 01:48:43,720 --> 01:48:45,479 Speaker 6: Nigga, I'm not getting beat up side my head for 2376 01:48:45,520 --> 01:48:47,679 Speaker 6: the rest of my life, you know what I mean. 2377 01:48:47,720 --> 01:48:49,639 Speaker 4: At some point, I'm like, I'm getting a Jared carl 2378 01:48:49,640 --> 01:48:51,920 Speaker 4: and I'm getting the mother fucking jogging suit, and I'm. 2379 01:48:51,840 --> 01:48:53,519 Speaker 6: Gonna go talk to these white people for a living. 2380 01:48:53,640 --> 01:48:54,639 Speaker 6: It's a lot safer. 2381 01:48:55,120 --> 01:48:57,600 Speaker 1: So but I will say this, I will say this 2382 01:48:57,800 --> 01:49:02,120 Speaker 1: right with that though, Like there's a middle ground, right, 2383 01:49:02,560 --> 01:49:06,639 Speaker 1: Like the only option isn't okay, I'm going from the streets. 2384 01:49:06,640 --> 01:49:09,160 Speaker 1: So now I'm gonna go be fucking Steve Harvey, right, 2385 01:49:09,200 --> 01:49:13,600 Speaker 1: And I feel like we're always responsible for our decisions 2386 01:49:13,600 --> 01:49:15,960 Speaker 1: and the politics of our decisions, like Safety Pinbox is 2387 01:49:15,960 --> 01:49:17,960 Speaker 1: that for me and Leslie, even though we're at different 2388 01:49:17,960 --> 01:49:19,040 Speaker 1: life stages. 2389 01:49:18,800 --> 01:49:22,600 Speaker 2: Right, it is, Safety pub Box is very different. 2390 01:49:22,320 --> 01:49:25,519 Speaker 1: Than me getting my yoga pants on and clapping in 2391 01:49:25,640 --> 01:49:27,840 Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders's face, you know. And a lot of people 2392 01:49:27,840 --> 01:49:30,240 Speaker 1: have tried to make that distinction for me of like, oh, 2393 01:49:30,280 --> 01:49:32,840 Speaker 1: she's grown up now, like she's doing more respectable work. 2394 01:49:33,640 --> 01:49:36,600 Speaker 1: But for me, my politics are consistent from across that 2395 01:49:36,640 --> 01:49:38,840 Speaker 1: it's not sustainable to be doing And I knew from 2396 01:49:38,880 --> 01:49:40,760 Speaker 1: the moment I got down off that stage O and 2397 01:49:40,800 --> 01:49:43,920 Speaker 1: never be able to do something in that way before 2398 01:49:43,960 --> 01:49:46,600 Speaker 1: because the moment was used up. Right, that's not sustainable 2399 01:49:46,720 --> 01:49:50,240 Speaker 1: or whatever. But it doesn't mean that now doing Safety Pinbox, right, 2400 01:49:50,400 --> 01:49:54,479 Speaker 1: that the politics around that don't matter, right, I still 2401 01:49:54,520 --> 01:49:57,680 Speaker 1: need to be accountable like there there. I think we're 2402 01:49:57,680 --> 01:50:00,280 Speaker 1: always trying to strive for ways for when we move 2403 01:50:00,040 --> 01:50:03,519 Speaker 1: move to do something different, to still be doing it 2404 01:50:04,120 --> 01:50:06,920 Speaker 1: in a way that pushes things forward, you. 2405 01:50:06,880 --> 01:50:07,559 Speaker 2: Know what I mean. 2406 01:50:07,640 --> 01:50:10,000 Speaker 1: And so like for us, that's been a big thing 2407 01:50:10,000 --> 01:50:11,559 Speaker 1: with us a Safety pin Box. If you would have 2408 01:50:11,600 --> 01:50:14,160 Speaker 1: told me a year ago, Mercy, you're gonna be running 2409 01:50:14,160 --> 01:50:16,000 Speaker 1: a subscription box for white folks, I would have been like, 2410 01:50:16,080 --> 01:50:19,040 Speaker 1: fuck you, fuck her, fuck whoever that person is is 2411 01:50:19,120 --> 01:50:21,240 Speaker 1: doing that. But one of the things that we've worked 2412 01:50:21,240 --> 01:50:24,600 Speaker 1: in our business is like, okay, but are we supporting 2413 01:50:24,680 --> 01:50:25,840 Speaker 1: our base politics? 2414 01:50:25,920 --> 01:50:27,559 Speaker 2: Like are we are we. 2415 01:50:27,520 --> 01:50:30,960 Speaker 1: Really keeping ourselves accountable to the community that we're accountable to, 2416 01:50:31,000 --> 01:50:34,600 Speaker 1: which is black women. And that's the thing, right, there's 2417 01:50:34,600 --> 01:50:36,320 Speaker 1: a middle because there's ways we could do safety pin 2418 01:50:36,360 --> 01:50:40,360 Speaker 1: Box that could be really honestly, truly way more beneficial 2419 01:50:40,439 --> 01:50:42,559 Speaker 1: monetarily for me and Leslie and fucked up we an'll 2420 01:50:42,560 --> 01:50:44,920 Speaker 1: have to give nobody money. That seventy K could be 2421 01:50:44,960 --> 01:50:46,639 Speaker 1: in our pockets, do you know what I mean? And 2422 01:50:46,680 --> 01:50:49,200 Speaker 1: even more we could have gone on everything. You know, 2423 01:50:49,240 --> 01:50:52,800 Speaker 1: there are choices that we made to have a certain 2424 01:50:52,800 --> 01:50:54,800 Speaker 1: hard line where if we would have pandered to white folks, 2425 01:50:54,800 --> 01:50:56,759 Speaker 1: we would have way more subscribers, way more. 2426 01:50:56,680 --> 01:50:57,400 Speaker 2: Money or whatever. 2427 01:50:57,520 --> 01:51:00,200 Speaker 1: So I say all of that to say, like, I 2428 01:51:00,200 --> 01:51:02,160 Speaker 1: think there's an in between, and I think what we're 2429 01:51:02,200 --> 01:51:05,479 Speaker 1: always trying to strive for you say this like to yourself, 2430 01:51:05,560 --> 01:51:07,479 Speaker 1: is like, find what you're okay with and what you're 2431 01:51:07,479 --> 01:51:09,559 Speaker 1: comfortable with. And I don't think that because people are 2432 01:51:09,560 --> 01:51:12,120 Speaker 1: moving on to different things that that doesn't leave any 2433 01:51:12,160 --> 01:51:15,880 Speaker 1: space for critique because I think especially when you have 2434 01:51:15,920 --> 01:51:18,680 Speaker 1: a platform, you always have control over like how you 2435 01:51:18,760 --> 01:51:20,240 Speaker 1: choose to go about that platform. 2436 01:51:20,400 --> 01:51:24,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, let me clarify because I do want to be clear. 2437 01:51:24,600 --> 01:51:25,839 Speaker 6: This isn't me saying you can't. 2438 01:51:25,680 --> 01:51:28,160 Speaker 4: Be fatigued, and this also isn't me saying this is 2439 01:51:28,560 --> 01:51:31,639 Speaker 4: either or I'm saying some people are going to pick 2440 01:51:31,680 --> 01:51:34,320 Speaker 4: to be over you know what I mean, Like, there's 2441 01:51:34,320 --> 01:51:37,040 Speaker 4: too many people in that in that movement, so not 2442 01:51:37,200 --> 01:51:41,160 Speaker 4: everybody's gonna make the same like have like even the 2443 01:51:41,439 --> 01:51:45,360 Speaker 4: entry point everyone like it becomes the further you're away 2444 01:51:45,360 --> 01:51:48,240 Speaker 4: from it. I think for for all you know, us 2445 01:51:48,320 --> 01:51:50,840 Speaker 4: out on the out of it, on the outside of it, 2446 01:51:50,840 --> 01:51:53,200 Speaker 4: it's like everybody has to fit the same paradigm. So 2447 01:51:53,240 --> 01:51:55,559 Speaker 4: it's like I saw you marching, you must have the 2448 01:51:55,560 --> 01:51:59,080 Speaker 4: same politics the other person marching. No, you know some 2449 01:51:59,120 --> 01:52:02,240 Speaker 4: people some people walked in and went. My ultimate goal 2450 01:52:02,400 --> 01:52:06,639 Speaker 4: is that I think the progressive values for black people 2451 01:52:06,640 --> 01:52:09,719 Speaker 4: will be achieved through political progress. It will it will 2452 01:52:09,760 --> 01:52:12,400 Speaker 4: be through working within the system. And there's other people 2453 01:52:12,400 --> 01:52:14,800 Speaker 4: that are like, I'm an agitator. I'm never gonna fucking 2454 01:52:14,840 --> 01:52:17,160 Speaker 4: work within the system, you know, like you know what 2455 01:52:17,160 --> 01:52:20,360 Speaker 4: I'm saying, So like I think, right, So I think 2456 01:52:20,439 --> 01:52:24,320 Speaker 4: what happens is that we, at least us on the outside, 2457 01:52:24,439 --> 01:52:27,280 Speaker 4: we ascribe values to people where it's like, oh, this 2458 01:52:27,360 --> 01:52:28,080 Speaker 4: nigga changed. 2459 01:52:28,640 --> 01:52:30,639 Speaker 6: I don't know. Maybe he always was like. 2460 01:52:30,840 --> 01:52:33,439 Speaker 4: No, I'm gonna do this, this and this and this right, 2461 01:52:33,479 --> 01:52:37,360 Speaker 4: and maybe other people ascribe values to him for like 2462 01:52:37,400 --> 01:52:40,880 Speaker 4: that blank slate. So to me, I'm like, somebody gotta 2463 01:52:40,920 --> 01:52:43,840 Speaker 4: go be Al Sharpton, because when Al Sharpton went in, 2464 01:52:44,080 --> 01:52:46,720 Speaker 4: it's not Al Sharpton said, me and Malcolm X we 2465 01:52:46,800 --> 01:52:48,920 Speaker 4: the same. He was like, one day I'm gonna be 2466 01:52:49,200 --> 01:52:53,120 Speaker 4: doing what I believe that will progress black people. But 2467 01:52:53,240 --> 01:52:55,719 Speaker 4: also I want to go be on TV or whatever 2468 01:52:55,720 --> 01:52:58,559 Speaker 4: the fuck else. So yeah, it's gonna like, especially with 2469 01:52:58,640 --> 01:52:59,320 Speaker 4: how young. 2470 01:52:59,120 --> 01:53:00,760 Speaker 7: The people were, very young. 2471 01:53:00,920 --> 01:53:03,400 Speaker 4: Them motherfuckers are going to be everywhere because they're gon 2472 01:53:04,040 --> 01:53:06,840 Speaker 4: unless they die, which I pray that they don't, but 2473 01:53:06,960 --> 01:53:07,960 Speaker 4: unless they die. 2474 01:53:07,840 --> 01:53:10,679 Speaker 6: Doing it, they gotta go make a living at some point. 2475 01:53:10,680 --> 01:53:12,559 Speaker 4: And I feel like it's fucked up because I also 2476 01:53:12,640 --> 01:53:14,160 Speaker 4: watch activists be destitute. 2477 01:53:14,400 --> 01:53:16,400 Speaker 6: I watch people be I watch. 2478 01:53:16,520 --> 01:53:20,559 Speaker 4: Activists have to put their PayPal on social media and 2479 01:53:20,600 --> 01:53:23,040 Speaker 4: I'm like, that's the same person I watch get pepper sprayed, 2480 01:53:23,760 --> 01:53:27,320 Speaker 4: So like, I don't feel right about that either. And 2481 01:53:27,360 --> 01:53:30,160 Speaker 4: I know that when the ends ain't meeting and when 2482 01:53:30,160 --> 01:53:32,880 Speaker 4: the money ain't there, motherfucker's gonna do what they gotta do. 2483 01:53:33,320 --> 01:53:37,040 Speaker 4: So if what in varying degrees, whatever, they can live with, 2484 01:53:37,200 --> 01:53:40,160 Speaker 4: as as Marissa said, some people can live with being 2485 01:53:40,200 --> 01:53:43,800 Speaker 4: Oprah and some people can live with out of their car, 2486 01:53:44,320 --> 01:53:45,040 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. 2487 01:53:45,160 --> 01:53:46,960 Speaker 6: But sometimes I just look at people. 2488 01:53:46,960 --> 01:53:52,400 Speaker 4: I'm like, I feel almost ashamed watching people let them down, 2489 01:53:53,120 --> 01:53:56,040 Speaker 4: like to watch people that put them a high level 2490 01:53:56,040 --> 01:53:58,760 Speaker 4: of scrutiny on these very young people, like you didn't 2491 01:53:58,800 --> 01:54:00,960 Speaker 4: say this right, you didn't do that right, Why were 2492 01:54:00,960 --> 01:54:01,639 Speaker 4: you wearing this? 2493 01:54:01,840 --> 01:54:02,679 Speaker 6: Look at your hair? 2494 01:54:02,920 --> 01:54:03,680 Speaker 5: I don't like you. 2495 01:54:04,080 --> 01:54:04,799 Speaker 6: Fuck you? 2496 01:54:04,800 --> 01:54:06,759 Speaker 4: You know, like I watch it, I watch it happen 2497 01:54:06,800 --> 01:54:10,639 Speaker 4: to y'all. I watched people Monday morning quarterback, the decisions 2498 01:54:10,680 --> 01:54:11,160 Speaker 4: y'all make. 2499 01:54:11,680 --> 01:54:12,439 Speaker 6: And people that. 2500 01:54:12,439 --> 01:54:14,719 Speaker 4: Don't have any skin in the game and don't help anyone, 2501 01:54:14,760 --> 01:54:18,960 Speaker 4: don't spread any like, don't know right, They just sit back, 2502 01:54:19,080 --> 01:54:22,479 Speaker 4: expect you to work, and then judge. So as a 2503 01:54:22,520 --> 01:54:24,640 Speaker 4: person on the outside, I don't have a dog in 2504 01:54:24,680 --> 01:54:27,160 Speaker 4: a fight. I just I just look at the decisions 2505 01:54:27,200 --> 01:54:28,920 Speaker 4: y'all make and be like, well, if somebody had to 2506 01:54:28,920 --> 01:54:32,040 Speaker 4: make that decision too, Like, good luck to all y'all, 2507 01:54:32,040 --> 01:54:33,760 Speaker 4: because I you know, at any. 2508 01:54:33,640 --> 01:54:38,960 Speaker 6: Rate, back to fucking with black people. People were fucked with. 2509 01:54:39,000 --> 01:54:42,480 Speaker 4: By this interview guys. Caddy Perry went to talk to 2510 01:54:42,600 --> 01:54:45,720 Speaker 4: Deray on this podcast. They lead the two minute clip. 2511 01:54:45,880 --> 01:54:49,080 Speaker 4: I have no idea what the full context of the 2512 01:54:50,080 --> 01:54:51,320 Speaker 4: conversation will. 2513 01:54:51,200 --> 01:54:51,760 Speaker 6: End up being. 2514 01:54:51,920 --> 01:54:55,120 Speaker 4: He was saying to like, wait till it's all the 2515 01:54:55,120 --> 01:55:00,400 Speaker 4: way out. I think that's impossible on social media. No, 2516 01:55:00,640 --> 01:55:02,320 Speaker 4: people don't wait till it's all the way out. If 2517 01:55:02,360 --> 01:55:05,280 Speaker 4: you put a snippet out, they gonna talk about the snippet, 2518 01:55:05,280 --> 01:55:08,520 Speaker 4: and maybe if they care, they'll talk about the full 2519 01:55:08,560 --> 01:55:10,800 Speaker 4: context of what you put out. Let me see, I 2520 01:55:10,840 --> 01:55:14,200 Speaker 4: can make this bigger, all right, So this is Caddy. 2521 01:55:14,320 --> 01:55:16,920 Speaker 8: I've made several mistakes, even in like this is how 2522 01:55:16,920 --> 01:55:19,880 Speaker 8: We Do video about how I wore my hair and 2523 01:55:20,080 --> 01:55:24,080 Speaker 8: having a hard conversation with one of my empowered angels Kleio, 2524 01:55:24,240 --> 01:55:24,920 Speaker 8: about what. 2525 01:55:24,800 --> 01:55:28,320 Speaker 6: Does it mean why empowered angels? 2526 01:55:29,640 --> 01:55:29,880 Speaker 7: What? 2527 01:55:30,160 --> 01:55:31,800 Speaker 4: How did I miss that the first time I saw 2528 01:55:31,840 --> 01:55:34,240 Speaker 4: this ship? Empowered Angels? 2529 01:55:34,800 --> 01:55:37,040 Speaker 1: You said clear like miss Cleo. I just hear like 2530 01:55:37,120 --> 01:55:39,080 Speaker 1: calling Miss Cleo up on the phone. 2531 01:55:39,520 --> 01:55:49,760 Speaker 6: Is Empowered Angels appropriation call one nine hundred appropriation. Hey yeah, it's. 2532 01:55:51,560 --> 01:55:53,840 Speaker 5: Like you literally couldn't say black women. 2533 01:55:54,240 --> 01:55:55,720 Speaker 6: I was like, isn't okay? 2534 01:55:56,000 --> 01:55:57,480 Speaker 5: Literally couldn't say it, okay. 2535 01:55:57,880 --> 01:56:00,720 Speaker 3: Leslie picked up saying fact that that's who should be 2536 01:56:00,760 --> 01:56:02,680 Speaker 3: sitting She should be sitting across from right. 2537 01:56:03,120 --> 01:56:05,440 Speaker 5: That's why she couldn't actually say those words. 2538 01:56:05,560 --> 01:56:09,360 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, Leslie picked up exactly what I was gonna. 2539 01:56:09,480 --> 01:56:13,080 Speaker 4: I was like, it's Empowered Angel cold for black women. 2540 01:56:14,080 --> 01:56:16,200 Speaker 6: I was talking with my Empowered Angels. 2541 01:56:16,720 --> 01:56:21,600 Speaker 3: Uh, I hope als getting paid on Twitter handle to 2542 01:56:21,600 --> 01:56:22,720 Speaker 3: Empowered Angel. 2543 01:56:22,400 --> 01:56:23,080 Speaker 6: Real quick, right. 2544 01:56:23,200 --> 01:56:25,560 Speaker 4: I feel like no black woman is hanging around Katy 2545 01:56:25,600 --> 01:56:28,520 Speaker 4: Perry for free, though. I mean, come on, they gotta hope. 2546 01:56:28,560 --> 01:56:32,320 Speaker 4: They gotta be getting some coins, man. You know what 2547 01:56:32,480 --> 01:56:34,320 Speaker 4: we know they getting coins. You know how we know 2548 01:56:34,320 --> 01:56:37,200 Speaker 4: they getting coins because Taylor Swift hired the motherfuckers from 2549 01:56:37,240 --> 01:56:39,880 Speaker 4: right from under her ass before that tour. So we 2550 01:56:40,480 --> 01:56:43,800 Speaker 4: actually do know that they get coins because they were like. 2551 01:56:43,720 --> 01:56:47,640 Speaker 6: Oh Taylor, pam On, oh Caddy, good luck on the tour. 2552 01:56:48,000 --> 01:56:52,360 Speaker 9: Uh yeah, you roar over here, all you want it off. 2553 01:56:52,440 --> 01:56:54,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I hope y'all can learn that left shark choreography 2554 01:56:54,960 --> 01:56:55,840 Speaker 4: because I got a dip. 2555 01:56:56,440 --> 01:56:57,400 Speaker 6: All right, back to this. 2556 01:56:58,160 --> 01:57:02,080 Speaker 8: Conversation with one of my empowered angels, Cleo, about what 2557 01:57:02,120 --> 01:57:05,120 Speaker 8: does it mean? Why why can't I wear my hair 2558 01:57:05,160 --> 01:57:08,240 Speaker 8: that way? Or what is the history behind wearing the 2559 01:57:08,280 --> 01:57:11,520 Speaker 8: hair that way? And she told me about the power 2560 01:57:11,920 --> 01:57:14,840 Speaker 8: in black women's hair and how beautiful it is and 2561 01:57:14,880 --> 01:57:19,480 Speaker 8: the struggle. And I listened and I heard, and I 2562 01:57:19,520 --> 01:57:23,120 Speaker 8: didn't know. And I won't never understand some of those 2563 01:57:23,160 --> 01:57:26,520 Speaker 8: things because of who I am. I will never understand. 2564 01:57:27,360 --> 01:57:30,320 Speaker 8: But I can educate my educate myself, and that's what 2565 01:57:30,720 --> 01:57:32,640 Speaker 8: I'm trying to do along the way, and even in 2566 01:57:33,240 --> 01:57:37,160 Speaker 8: you know, my intention to like appreciate Japanese culture, I 2567 01:57:37,200 --> 01:57:40,880 Speaker 8: did it wrong with a performance. And I didn't know 2568 01:57:40,920 --> 01:57:44,120 Speaker 8: that I did it wrong until I heard people saying 2569 01:57:44,120 --> 01:57:47,160 Speaker 8: I did it wrong. And sometimes that's what it takes, 2570 01:57:47,240 --> 01:57:51,240 Speaker 8: is it takes someone to say out of compassion, out 2571 01:57:51,280 --> 01:57:55,360 Speaker 8: of love, hey, this is where the organ is, you know, 2572 01:57:55,480 --> 01:57:59,560 Speaker 8: and do you understand? And not just like a clap back, 2573 01:57:59,720 --> 01:58:03,040 Speaker 8: you know, because it's hard to hear those clapbacks sometimes 2574 01:58:03,040 --> 01:58:03,520 Speaker 8: and you want it. 2575 01:58:03,520 --> 01:58:04,680 Speaker 2: Your ego just wants. 2576 01:58:04,480 --> 01:58:05,120 Speaker 8: To turn from that. 2577 01:58:07,240 --> 01:58:14,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, the hand on the leg was agreed just though yeah, yeah, 2578 01:58:14,720 --> 01:58:15,960 Speaker 4: the clapback is I. 2579 01:58:15,920 --> 01:58:20,160 Speaker 2: Mean, in all fairness, bingo all of them. 2580 01:58:21,760 --> 01:58:24,840 Speaker 4: I will say this though, in all fairness, the black 2581 01:58:24,880 --> 01:58:28,280 Speaker 4: women clapback is the most epic of the clapbacks. 2582 01:58:28,320 --> 01:58:29,960 Speaker 6: Though that is true, it is. 2583 01:58:30,000 --> 01:58:32,360 Speaker 3: But rob let me also say this, it's really easy 2584 01:58:32,440 --> 01:58:35,200 Speaker 3: to stay on the not clap back side of the street. 2585 01:58:35,680 --> 01:58:38,520 Speaker 3: We don't ask for a lot, and we don't expect 2586 01:58:38,640 --> 01:58:40,720 Speaker 3: very much, and most of the time when you see 2587 01:58:40,720 --> 01:58:43,080 Speaker 3: the clapback, it's not We don't clap. 2588 01:58:42,760 --> 01:58:44,320 Speaker 5: Back at the initial thing. 2589 01:58:44,560 --> 01:58:46,960 Speaker 3: We expect white people to fuck up, and we expect 2590 01:58:46,960 --> 01:58:49,040 Speaker 3: men to fuck up. That is our lot in life, 2591 01:58:49,080 --> 01:58:51,920 Speaker 3: and we understand it very well. We've been living it right. 2592 01:58:52,200 --> 01:58:54,120 Speaker 3: The problem is when we point this shit out to 2593 01:58:54,160 --> 01:58:57,640 Speaker 3: you with compassion and kindness, you turn into an asshole. 2594 01:58:57,720 --> 01:58:59,160 Speaker 5: And that's when you get the clapback. 2595 01:58:59,520 --> 01:59:02,800 Speaker 3: So the idea of a thirty two year old woman 2596 01:59:02,880 --> 01:59:05,839 Speaker 3: actually being like I just didn't know, bitch, use Google 2597 01:59:06,240 --> 01:59:07,480 Speaker 3: like it's your friends. 2598 01:59:07,560 --> 01:59:09,760 Speaker 5: Stop playing dumb out in these streets. 2599 01:59:09,880 --> 01:59:13,000 Speaker 3: Like nobody's had a fucking conversation about appropriating black women's 2600 01:59:13,000 --> 01:59:15,400 Speaker 3: hair before, or haven't said it about you and every 2601 01:59:15,400 --> 01:59:19,080 Speaker 3: one of your bullshit ass white women contemporaries for fucking years, 2602 01:59:19,400 --> 01:59:23,080 Speaker 3: you trash the clap bag mac is killed. 2603 01:59:23,200 --> 01:59:26,320 Speaker 2: It's killed. It's just sustenans. It's giving you nutrients, it's 2604 01:59:26,320 --> 01:59:27,000 Speaker 2: helping you live. 2605 01:59:27,400 --> 01:59:29,320 Speaker 1: And you get all your sustenance from black women. You 2606 01:59:29,320 --> 01:59:31,200 Speaker 1: get all your culture from black women. But we're not 2607 01:59:31,240 --> 01:59:33,120 Speaker 1: supposed to have an opinion on the shit that you say, 2608 01:59:33,320 --> 01:59:34,360 Speaker 1: and we gotta like. 2609 01:59:34,280 --> 01:59:36,640 Speaker 2: The clapback is fun when you're not on it. 2610 01:59:36,520 --> 01:59:38,880 Speaker 1: Like people The crazy thing about the whole clap that thing, 2611 01:59:38,920 --> 01:59:40,160 Speaker 1: and I've experienced this is like. 2612 01:59:40,520 --> 01:59:43,440 Speaker 2: People want you to perform the clap back like they love. 2613 01:59:43,320 --> 01:59:45,440 Speaker 1: That shit, and they expect you to be that person 2614 01:59:45,440 --> 01:59:48,640 Speaker 1: and that woman in every space until the shit turns 2615 01:59:48,640 --> 01:59:50,920 Speaker 1: on them, and then they feel like betrayed. 2616 01:59:50,960 --> 01:59:53,280 Speaker 2: And it's like, but bitch, you've been. 2617 01:59:53,120 --> 01:59:55,400 Speaker 1: Wanting me to be a dog this whole time, but 2618 01:59:55,560 --> 01:59:57,880 Speaker 1: you just thought like, I'd never say shit to you, 2619 01:59:58,440 --> 02:00:00,560 Speaker 1: So I'm sure if it was like quote uno feminism, 2620 02:00:00,640 --> 02:00:01,880 Speaker 1: she'd be like, yeah, I clopped back. 2621 02:00:01,920 --> 02:00:03,400 Speaker 2: But when it turns on her, it's a problem. 2622 02:00:03,520 --> 02:00:08,080 Speaker 4: I guarantee she has at least once retweeted some clap 2623 02:00:08,120 --> 02:00:13,200 Speaker 4: back at Tata Nigga guarantee it, guarantee it, guarantee it. 2624 02:00:14,760 --> 02:00:14,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 2625 02:00:15,920 --> 02:00:20,720 Speaker 4: And now also and I'm just saying that the black woman, 2626 02:00:20,920 --> 02:00:26,080 Speaker 4: the black woman clap black tm is the filthiest dragons 2627 02:00:26,320 --> 02:00:30,240 Speaker 4: on the internet. It's the like when you see those dragons, 2628 02:00:30,240 --> 02:00:33,880 Speaker 4: it's like, yo, just I'm glad I'm not you, is 2629 02:00:33,920 --> 02:00:36,360 Speaker 4: what I be thinking when I see like when I 2630 02:00:36,400 --> 02:00:39,080 Speaker 4: just see somebody catching it and it's like black women 2631 02:00:39,160 --> 02:00:40,240 Speaker 4: throwing it, I'm just like. 2632 02:00:41,000 --> 02:00:43,480 Speaker 6: Dog, that was a bad decision, you know. 2633 02:00:43,640 --> 02:00:48,320 Speaker 4: And and Leslie's right. It's always after Leslie's right. It's 2634 02:00:48,360 --> 02:00:51,560 Speaker 4: always after the double down, you know, like it like 2635 02:00:51,600 --> 02:00:54,040 Speaker 4: they catch a little heat when the initial fuck up. 2636 02:00:54,040 --> 02:00:56,720 Speaker 4: But it's always when they just say some shit like 2637 02:00:57,600 --> 02:00:59,480 Speaker 4: maybe if you guys would watch your tone, and I'm like, 2638 02:01:01,080 --> 02:01:05,520 Speaker 4: so a flood just comes through. Oh yeah, yeah, I've 2639 02:01:05,520 --> 02:01:06,160 Speaker 4: always been. 2640 02:01:06,360 --> 02:01:07,440 Speaker 5: It has to be really bad. 2641 02:01:07,520 --> 02:01:09,560 Speaker 3: It has to be really bad, because I don't know 2642 02:01:09,600 --> 02:01:12,040 Speaker 3: a black woman that's not doing fifteen fucking things in 2643 02:01:12,040 --> 02:01:14,920 Speaker 3: their life at any giving God dam And if you 2644 02:01:15,080 --> 02:01:18,120 Speaker 3: made me stop all the shit that I'm doing to 2645 02:01:18,240 --> 02:01:20,840 Speaker 3: come and have to hand you your ass listen, it's 2646 02:01:20,840 --> 02:01:23,360 Speaker 3: gonna be a full fucking meal, that's what it's gonna 2647 02:01:23,400 --> 02:01:26,040 Speaker 3: because I shouldn't have to do that. You should be 2648 02:01:26,120 --> 02:01:30,080 Speaker 3: grown enough to handle your business accordingly. And because you aren't, well, yeah, 2649 02:01:30,080 --> 02:01:32,040 Speaker 3: you're gonna catch these hands, that's what you're gonna catch. 2650 02:01:32,040 --> 02:01:35,560 Speaker 1: And nobody's checking for us too, Like who's out here 2651 02:01:35,600 --> 02:01:36,400 Speaker 1: really checking. 2652 02:01:36,160 --> 02:01:38,760 Speaker 2: For black women other than black women. Who's out here 2653 02:01:38,800 --> 02:01:40,640 Speaker 2: supporting black women? Like what the fuck? 2654 02:01:40,720 --> 02:01:42,640 Speaker 1: We don't owe you shit, nigga, Like what are you 2655 02:01:42,720 --> 02:01:43,839 Speaker 1: talking about here? 2656 02:01:43,880 --> 02:01:46,520 Speaker 2: Like nobody's checking for us. Everybody wants us to do 2657 02:01:46,560 --> 02:01:48,360 Speaker 2: all this labor. So yeah, bitch, you're gonna get in 2658 02:01:48,400 --> 02:01:48,920 Speaker 2: the clap beat. 2659 02:01:49,280 --> 02:01:51,960 Speaker 1: You're you're glad somebody didn't actually slap your ass because 2660 02:01:51,960 --> 02:01:53,840 Speaker 1: when you should have got slapped, that's what should have. 2661 02:01:53,760 --> 02:01:56,680 Speaker 2: Happened to you. And so it's just it's just so 2662 02:01:56,880 --> 02:01:57,840 Speaker 2: wild and. 2663 02:01:57,760 --> 02:02:02,160 Speaker 1: This whole like Leslie Be talking about the white white 2664 02:02:02,200 --> 02:02:04,480 Speaker 1: female aggression. I don't know if you've seen her indeed, 2665 02:02:04,560 --> 02:02:06,640 Speaker 1: like Gotto got this whole funny like video on it, 2666 02:02:07,040 --> 02:02:11,200 Speaker 1: but it's just like white women will do actual physical violence, 2667 02:02:12,000 --> 02:02:15,600 Speaker 1: financial emotional violence to black women and fucking gas like 2668 02:02:15,640 --> 02:02:16,120 Speaker 1: the ship. 2669 02:02:15,960 --> 02:02:18,720 Speaker 2: Out of them and then when they're corrected on. 2670 02:02:18,680 --> 02:02:22,520 Speaker 1: Their ship, they any any any any checking them on anything. 2671 02:02:22,640 --> 02:02:25,400 Speaker 1: It's oh, it's a clop back. It's violence that they 2672 02:02:25,560 --> 02:02:27,560 Speaker 1: like cannot wait to be the victim. 2673 02:02:27,560 --> 02:02:31,880 Speaker 4: And like, uh, she's doing the when you pull the 2674 02:02:31,920 --> 02:02:33,640 Speaker 4: manager to the side to try to have a personal 2675 02:02:33,640 --> 02:02:39,040 Speaker 4: conversation voice, which isn't fooling me because you also are 2676 02:02:39,040 --> 02:02:41,560 Speaker 4: the person that was saying nigga all these times around 2677 02:02:41,600 --> 02:02:44,440 Speaker 4: these black dudes that and not just like the coon 2678 02:02:44,520 --> 02:02:46,960 Speaker 4: ass black dudes that be like she could say, I'm 2679 02:02:47,000 --> 02:02:49,200 Speaker 4: trying to fuck but like the black dudes that were like, 2680 02:02:49,240 --> 02:02:51,839 Speaker 4: can you please stop though, no, no, no, but seriously, 2681 02:02:51,960 --> 02:02:55,160 Speaker 4: I know we're in Paris, we get the joke. You 2682 02:02:55,280 --> 02:02:57,920 Speaker 4: have to stop calling me a nigga because it's very disrespectful, 2683 02:02:58,240 --> 02:02:59,200 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like. 2684 02:02:59,280 --> 02:03:03,080 Speaker 1: That it just took the picture with MiGs fucking they're 2685 02:03:03,120 --> 02:03:04,400 Speaker 1: standing their regular ass. 2686 02:03:04,440 --> 02:03:06,440 Speaker 2: So she's like, that was weeks ago. 2687 02:03:07,680 --> 02:03:11,680 Speaker 1: What are you talking about you've learned and framing us. 2688 02:03:12,120 --> 02:03:13,920 Speaker 2: I just didn't know that I didn't do. 2689 02:03:13,880 --> 02:03:17,760 Speaker 1: Something the correct way, Like that's fucking gaslighting as a motherfucker. 2690 02:03:18,040 --> 02:03:20,760 Speaker 1: The issue isn't that you weren't perfect and that people 2691 02:03:21,000 --> 02:03:22,680 Speaker 1: because that on when people jumped on her because she 2692 02:03:22,680 --> 02:03:25,440 Speaker 1: didn't do something perfect the first time, like, no, bitch, 2693 02:03:25,440 --> 02:03:28,440 Speaker 1: you're fucking violent and fucking harmful, and then now you're 2694 02:03:28,520 --> 02:03:31,920 Speaker 1: you're always escaping like culpability for all the. 2695 02:03:32,240 --> 02:03:34,680 Speaker 6: Time, Like and what did you learn? Would be a 2696 02:03:34,680 --> 02:03:35,720 Speaker 6: good follow up question. 2697 02:03:36,080 --> 02:03:37,920 Speaker 5: You didn't learn shit? Because here's the thing. 2698 02:03:38,000 --> 02:03:40,920 Speaker 3: Those two pieces of work that she mentioned that she 2699 02:03:41,040 --> 02:03:44,160 Speaker 3: now admits she did incorrectly, I can still watch them 2700 02:03:44,200 --> 02:03:46,400 Speaker 3: on vimeo. I can still see them on her website. 2701 02:03:46,440 --> 02:03:49,040 Speaker 3: I can still find them on tyle. You haven't pulled 2702 02:03:49,040 --> 02:03:52,080 Speaker 3: the content that you yourself have admitted was inappropriate. So 2703 02:03:52,120 --> 02:03:54,000 Speaker 3: where is the action to back up, back up this 2704 02:03:54,040 --> 02:03:56,600 Speaker 3: so called knowledge that you have gained. White people love 2705 02:03:56,680 --> 02:03:59,560 Speaker 3: to say that educating themselves in and of itself is 2706 02:03:59,600 --> 02:04:03,879 Speaker 3: something I'm not impressed. You read a book congratuate fucking lations. 2707 02:04:03,920 --> 02:04:06,360 Speaker 3: So did I. I don't really see how that has 2708 02:04:06,360 --> 02:04:10,520 Speaker 3: any bearing on your viability as a true ally or 2709 02:04:10,640 --> 02:04:12,800 Speaker 3: a support system for people that actually need it. 2710 02:04:13,200 --> 02:04:15,280 Speaker 5: And it's gross, it's gross. 2711 02:04:15,400 --> 02:04:17,400 Speaker 6: And also, where was. 2712 02:04:17,360 --> 02:04:20,000 Speaker 1: This, Cleo, when you were doing that dance with migos 2713 02:04:20,040 --> 02:04:23,960 Speaker 1: where you yelled offset and you were doing this where 2714 02:04:24,360 --> 02:04:28,240 Speaker 1: where your angel, where was she at? 2715 02:04:28,800 --> 02:04:29,000 Speaker 9: Well? 2716 02:04:29,000 --> 02:04:32,520 Speaker 4: My other thing, My other thing too, is like where's 2717 02:04:32,560 --> 02:04:35,960 Speaker 4: your buying into these communities? Like do you talk about 2718 02:04:36,000 --> 02:04:39,680 Speaker 4: these tragedies that happen to these communities? You know, like 2719 02:04:40,040 --> 02:04:42,240 Speaker 4: when you dabbling and you're just like, I'm gonna take 2720 02:04:42,360 --> 02:04:44,120 Speaker 4: sample some of this hip hop. I'm gonna take some 2721 02:04:44,120 --> 02:04:46,440 Speaker 4: of these dance moves. I'm gonna wear corn roads and 2722 02:04:46,480 --> 02:04:50,160 Speaker 4: gold tea from my video. Well, where where else do 2723 02:04:50,240 --> 02:04:50,960 Speaker 4: you see us? 2724 02:04:51,200 --> 02:04:51,800 Speaker 6: You know what I mean? 2725 02:04:51,840 --> 02:04:54,280 Speaker 4: If that's all you see of us, then that does 2726 02:04:54,440 --> 02:04:56,840 Speaker 4: talk about the stereotype. It's kind of like the Bill 2727 02:04:56,880 --> 02:04:59,200 Speaker 4: Maher thing where Bill Maher makes a lot of jokes 2728 02:04:59,200 --> 02:05:02,960 Speaker 4: about black people, but ice Cube tot them sometimes you 2729 02:05:03,000 --> 02:05:07,080 Speaker 4: sound like a redneck trucker and Bill mars like, oh no, no, 2730 02:05:07,080 --> 02:05:09,680 Speaker 4: now that's going too far, and he's like, that's my opinion. 2731 02:05:10,280 --> 02:05:12,320 Speaker 4: I watch a show and that's what I think. Like 2732 02:05:13,320 --> 02:05:14,560 Speaker 4: you you do? 2733 02:05:14,600 --> 02:05:15,240 Speaker 6: You know what I mean? 2734 02:05:15,280 --> 02:05:19,560 Speaker 4: You do do the big black dick, angry, aggressive black man. 2735 02:05:19,640 --> 02:05:20,920 Speaker 6: That's what a black man is. 2736 02:05:21,520 --> 02:05:24,200 Speaker 4: Well, whenever you cherry pick for our culture, and the 2737 02:05:24,240 --> 02:05:25,879 Speaker 4: things you cherry pick are. 2738 02:05:27,240 --> 02:05:30,400 Speaker 6: Gold teeth, corn rows, you. 2739 02:05:30,280 --> 02:05:33,640 Speaker 4: Know, certain dance moves and shit it does say this 2740 02:05:33,720 --> 02:05:36,480 Speaker 4: is what you see us as, and it's very difficult 2741 02:05:36,560 --> 02:05:41,640 Speaker 4: to not believe that. And then when your explanation later, 2742 02:05:41,720 --> 02:05:43,840 Speaker 4: when called on it is just like, well I learned 2743 02:05:43,840 --> 02:05:44,720 Speaker 4: from it. 2744 02:05:44,720 --> 02:05:47,920 Speaker 6: It's like, well what did you learn? How? You know? 2745 02:05:49,360 --> 02:05:50,080 Speaker 2: Could you learn that? 2746 02:05:50,440 --> 02:05:50,640 Speaker 6: Right? 2747 02:05:50,960 --> 02:05:54,240 Speaker 4: Like like there's there's still causes and things you can support, 2748 02:05:54,440 --> 02:05:56,920 Speaker 4: you know it, Like at the at minimum, you know 2749 02:05:57,840 --> 02:06:01,440 Speaker 4: you found a way to champion. You find a way 2750 02:06:01,480 --> 02:06:05,440 Speaker 4: to champion like feminism with certain causes, with certain anthems 2751 02:06:05,480 --> 02:06:08,720 Speaker 4: and songs. I don't understand why a black person can't 2752 02:06:08,760 --> 02:06:13,160 Speaker 4: address systematic racism in their fucking song, you know what 2753 02:06:13,200 --> 02:06:13,520 Speaker 4: I mean? 2754 02:06:14,760 --> 02:06:15,440 Speaker 7: People, you didn't know. 2755 02:06:15,440 --> 02:06:16,000 Speaker 6: That, right? 2756 02:06:16,240 --> 02:06:18,480 Speaker 4: Like to me, I feel like this whole album and 2757 02:06:18,520 --> 02:06:22,160 Speaker 4: this this this new makeover she has is a how 2758 02:06:22,160 --> 02:06:23,280 Speaker 4: do I turn the fifty. 2759 02:06:23,000 --> 02:06:24,480 Speaker 6: Three percent back to the one hundred percent? 2760 02:06:24,800 --> 02:06:25,040 Speaker 5: Move? 2761 02:06:25,400 --> 02:06:28,960 Speaker 4: Like the whole like everything about it just seems foul 2762 02:06:28,960 --> 02:06:32,720 Speaker 4: to me. From the you know, the video where she's like, oh, y'all. 2763 02:06:32,480 --> 02:06:34,960 Speaker 6: Gonna cry, I changed my hair. You gonna cry cause 2764 02:06:34,960 --> 02:06:37,040 Speaker 6: you miss Obama too, And it's like, where did that 2765 02:06:37,080 --> 02:06:39,080 Speaker 6: come from? What they got to do with your hair? 2766 02:06:39,800 --> 02:06:40,320 Speaker 6: You know what I mean? 2767 02:06:40,320 --> 02:06:42,040 Speaker 4: It's like that kind of weird shit when you were 2768 02:06:42,120 --> 02:06:45,760 Speaker 4: just the one telling everybody it's all about Hillary and 2769 02:06:45,800 --> 02:06:46,640 Speaker 4: my parents. 2770 02:06:46,320 --> 02:06:49,960 Speaker 2: And some racist coordinated it was like the timing was 2771 02:06:50,000 --> 02:06:50,880 Speaker 2: so right. 2772 02:06:51,240 --> 02:06:52,840 Speaker 4: I feel like it's the new cut. I feel like 2773 02:06:52,920 --> 02:06:55,280 Speaker 4: Taylor Swift out to get it. I'm a car calling 2774 02:06:55,320 --> 02:06:59,040 Speaker 4: this the fifty three percent cut, Like when you see 2775 02:07:00,360 --> 02:07:01,360 Speaker 4: we used to call this the. 2776 02:07:01,400 --> 02:07:04,040 Speaker 6: Cut for anybody, what you cut it. 2777 02:07:04,080 --> 02:07:05,680 Speaker 7: I want to see your manager cut. 2778 02:07:05,520 --> 02:07:08,000 Speaker 4: Right, But this new cut, I think that's the fifty 2779 02:07:08,000 --> 02:07:10,760 Speaker 4: three percent right now? Dog, all right, it's almost over. 2780 02:07:10,800 --> 02:07:11,640 Speaker 4: It's like twenty seconds. 2781 02:07:11,880 --> 02:07:14,800 Speaker 8: And I've had I've been so grateful to have great 2782 02:07:14,840 --> 02:07:17,720 Speaker 8: teachers and great friends that will really hold me accountable. 2783 02:07:18,560 --> 02:07:20,720 Speaker 8: Even when I said that I wasn't a feminist because 2784 02:07:20,720 --> 02:07:23,840 Speaker 8: I didn't know what that word meant. You know, someone 2785 02:07:23,840 --> 02:07:26,920 Speaker 8: pulled me aside in a quiet space and didn't shame me, 2786 02:07:27,400 --> 02:07:30,640 Speaker 8: didn't judge me. My friend Shannon, she just says, sweetheart, 2787 02:07:30,680 --> 02:07:32,160 Speaker 8: I love you, and I just want to show you 2788 02:07:32,200 --> 02:07:37,200 Speaker 8: what the Webster's definition in the dictionary says about. 2789 02:07:36,920 --> 02:07:38,600 Speaker 2: What it is to be a feminist, and. 2790 02:07:38,600 --> 02:07:41,720 Speaker 5: It's just equality, and so like, are you a feminist? 2791 02:07:41,960 --> 02:07:45,240 Speaker 8: Yes, sir, I am. I am a feminist, and I 2792 02:07:45,240 --> 02:07:49,919 Speaker 8: think it's a beautiful thing to want equality for all females, 2793 02:07:49,960 --> 02:07:53,440 Speaker 8: for all women. And I know in addition that there 2794 02:07:53,480 --> 02:07:56,520 Speaker 8: are gentlemen out there that can be I judge. 2795 02:07:56,200 --> 02:08:00,680 Speaker 6: Me, all right, yes, some of some of onether. 2796 02:08:00,680 --> 02:08:03,480 Speaker 4: Thing I hate about her response, though, is a lot 2797 02:08:03,520 --> 02:08:06,200 Speaker 4: of it is about the tone people talk to her in. 2798 02:08:07,200 --> 02:08:08,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, like I can. 2799 02:08:08,200 --> 02:08:10,400 Speaker 4: Learn it, but only if y'all are being nice to me. 2800 02:08:11,000 --> 02:08:13,920 Speaker 4: The people that were mean to me, I don't learn 2801 02:08:14,000 --> 02:08:14,960 Speaker 4: anything when you're mean. 2802 02:08:17,120 --> 02:08:21,760 Speaker 1: Listen, Rod, and everybody's calling me a Sarah Palin spy 2803 02:08:22,040 --> 02:08:24,440 Speaker 1: and calling me a cunt and a bitch and fat, 2804 02:08:24,520 --> 02:08:26,520 Speaker 1: and I get death threats. I'm trying to figure out 2805 02:08:26,560 --> 02:08:29,640 Speaker 1: where was the quiet spaces for me? For other black 2806 02:08:29,680 --> 02:08:32,960 Speaker 1: women on the internet, like Leslie, where are your quiet spaces? 2807 02:08:33,120 --> 02:08:35,000 Speaker 3: I was just about to say, do we get to 2808 02:08:35,040 --> 02:08:38,000 Speaker 3: experience racism in a quiet place? Because last time heard 2809 02:08:38,040 --> 02:08:42,080 Speaker 3: y'all just, you know, start hurling epithets and accusations at 2810 02:08:42,120 --> 02:08:46,560 Speaker 3: black folks, all without any consequence to your actions at all. 2811 02:08:46,680 --> 02:08:49,840 Speaker 3: So it's it's it's interesting to see, you know, white 2812 02:08:49,840 --> 02:08:50,680 Speaker 3: people love to do this. 2813 02:08:50,800 --> 02:08:52,920 Speaker 5: They like to equate. 2814 02:08:53,120 --> 02:08:55,280 Speaker 3: The feelings that they have when they're called on their 2815 02:08:55,320 --> 02:08:58,720 Speaker 3: shit with the real racism and impression that people of color, 2816 02:08:58,920 --> 02:09:02,120 Speaker 3: marginalized people feel right because to them it feels the 2817 02:09:02,160 --> 02:09:04,080 Speaker 3: same right, but they haven't felt the other thing, so 2818 02:09:04,120 --> 02:09:06,800 Speaker 3: they love to make this equation like, well, you know, 2819 02:09:07,120 --> 02:09:11,280 Speaker 3: as if what's been holding black people back all this time. 2820 02:09:11,200 --> 02:09:13,400 Speaker 5: Is we just needed to not have an attitude. 2821 02:09:13,520 --> 02:09:16,640 Speaker 4: If we were just talking the time, we would just 2822 02:09:16,680 --> 02:09:19,000 Speaker 4: talk to her nice guys, Okay, we could have been 2823 02:09:19,040 --> 02:09:20,920 Speaker 4: out over this, but nope, we had to get our 2824 02:09:21,000 --> 02:09:23,720 Speaker 4: jokes on and that's why she didn't know it was 2825 02:09:23,760 --> 02:09:25,560 Speaker 4: wrong to keep saying nigga when those black people asked 2826 02:09:25,560 --> 02:09:26,600 Speaker 4: her not to keep saying it. 2827 02:09:26,680 --> 02:09:29,280 Speaker 2: So we just need to put Trump in a quiet space. 2828 02:09:29,440 --> 02:09:34,760 Speaker 6: Just talk to him and his voters and his voters. 2829 02:09:33,720 --> 02:09:36,920 Speaker 2: The dictionary and just say, hey, Hans, I love. 2830 02:09:36,760 --> 02:09:39,960 Speaker 4: You right right, Come to the fifty three Come to 2831 02:09:39,960 --> 02:09:40,800 Speaker 4: the fifty three percent. 2832 02:09:41,560 --> 02:09:44,200 Speaker 6: You know the thing? The thing for me too, uh 2833 02:09:44,600 --> 02:09:46,320 Speaker 6: in this And. 2834 02:09:46,360 --> 02:09:49,440 Speaker 4: I don't know if niggas just are not hip to 2835 02:09:49,520 --> 02:09:54,800 Speaker 4: game yet. Do not let these white people, especially these 2836 02:09:54,840 --> 02:09:58,200 Speaker 4: white women that completely have beef with the black women 2837 02:09:58,360 --> 02:10:02,600 Speaker 4: like that is the main injured party. 2838 02:10:02,280 --> 02:10:02,680 Speaker 7: In the shit. 2839 02:10:03,600 --> 02:10:07,320 Speaker 4: Don't provide cover for them by by softening them, because 2840 02:10:07,360 --> 02:10:09,360 Speaker 4: you ain't gonna do nothing but get roasted too dog 2841 02:10:09,480 --> 02:10:11,360 Speaker 4: Like it's been enough niggas at this point that we 2842 02:10:11,360 --> 02:10:14,240 Speaker 4: can be like, yeah, dall, you could say that interview 2843 02:10:14,480 --> 02:10:17,040 Speaker 4: cause like it's not like cause the other thing is 2844 02:10:17,320 --> 02:10:19,760 Speaker 4: the optics of some nigga like going in on some 2845 02:10:19,840 --> 02:10:20,360 Speaker 4: white woman. 2846 02:10:21,400 --> 02:10:23,760 Speaker 6: It ain't never gonna work anyway, you know what I mean. 2847 02:10:23,840 --> 02:10:26,560 Speaker 4: Like, so you can't ever do the interview that needs 2848 02:10:26,560 --> 02:10:28,800 Speaker 4: to be done in the first place, the same way 2849 02:10:28,800 --> 02:10:31,440 Speaker 4: that all those people interview Rachel Dola's out and then 2850 02:10:31,640 --> 02:10:34,200 Speaker 4: uh Egoma interviewed that and then we were like and 2851 02:10:34,240 --> 02:10:36,760 Speaker 4: it's done, thank you, you know what I mean, Like, 2852 02:10:36,800 --> 02:10:39,040 Speaker 4: I don't think we've heard of her name since then, 2853 02:10:39,520 --> 02:10:42,080 Speaker 4: you know, Like, but it took that long before you 2854 02:10:42,080 --> 02:10:45,160 Speaker 4: could sit her down across in the room from the 2855 02:10:45,200 --> 02:10:47,920 Speaker 4: one fucking thing she's afraid of, the most injured party 2856 02:10:47,960 --> 02:10:50,840 Speaker 4: that sees through all her charades and trickery and goes, 2857 02:10:51,160 --> 02:10:53,840 Speaker 4: let me unmask your ass for the whole world. That's 2858 02:10:53,840 --> 02:10:55,880 Speaker 4: the one thing they're afraid of. And they're never gonna 2859 02:10:55,880 --> 02:10:57,920 Speaker 4: sit down and do that. And the only thing you're 2860 02:10:57,920 --> 02:11:00,000 Speaker 4: gonna do is piss all a whole lot of black ones. 2861 02:11:00,600 --> 02:11:03,400 Speaker 4: Whether it's that X and LB dude, you know, Dray 2862 02:11:03,480 --> 02:11:05,680 Speaker 4: pissed off all these people yesterday. It doesn't even matter 2863 02:11:05,720 --> 02:11:08,120 Speaker 4: how the rest of the interview comes out. A lot 2864 02:11:08,120 --> 02:11:10,000 Speaker 4: of people just got turned off from the objects of 2865 02:11:10,480 --> 02:11:14,960 Speaker 4: her with the reserved voice, touching your leg, getting to 2866 02:11:15,040 --> 02:11:18,400 Speaker 4: kind of like spin her yarn about how things went down. 2867 02:11:18,760 --> 02:11:21,920 Speaker 6: When these women know exactly how it went down. They 2868 02:11:22,000 --> 02:11:23,760 Speaker 6: know shit about it that I'll never know because I'm 2869 02:11:23,760 --> 02:11:25,440 Speaker 6: just not a black woman. I didn't pick up on 2870 02:11:26,280 --> 02:11:28,440 Speaker 6: and she didn't just have a gold teeth, but she 2871 02:11:28,600 --> 02:11:30,880 Speaker 6: also snapping her head. I'm like, I didn't even watch it. 2872 02:11:30,920 --> 02:11:32,400 Speaker 6: I didn't even watch the video. I don't know. 2873 02:11:33,360 --> 02:11:36,440 Speaker 4: Also, like when you do the interviews like this, you 2874 02:11:36,560 --> 02:11:39,080 Speaker 4: have to do so much research. You can't really be 2875 02:11:39,320 --> 02:11:42,120 Speaker 4: just finding stuff out about it, Like you have to 2876 02:11:42,240 --> 02:11:43,720 Speaker 4: like that line of questioning. 2877 02:11:44,080 --> 02:11:46,200 Speaker 6: You have to be prepared to be like, all right, 2878 02:11:46,320 --> 02:11:46,640 Speaker 6: so she. 2879 02:11:46,640 --> 02:11:49,400 Speaker 4: Gonna say this probably, and then I have to counter 2880 02:11:49,480 --> 02:11:51,280 Speaker 4: with blank, or I have to at least ask her 2881 02:11:51,320 --> 02:11:53,880 Speaker 4: to elaborate on you know, well, what did you learn? 2882 02:11:54,160 --> 02:11:56,440 Speaker 4: You say you learn? What exactly have you learned? Because 2883 02:11:56,440 --> 02:11:59,480 Speaker 4: it easy to be like I learned. That's an end statement, right, 2884 02:12:00,120 --> 02:12:02,839 Speaker 4: And I learned, and now I'm not racist and I'm good. Right, Okay, 2885 02:12:03,280 --> 02:12:04,040 Speaker 4: Well what'd you learn? 2886 02:12:04,400 --> 02:12:07,320 Speaker 6: Uh? Yeah, you say you have some teachers names? Who 2887 02:12:07,320 --> 02:12:08,000 Speaker 6: are your teachers? 2888 02:12:08,640 --> 02:12:10,520 Speaker 7: Right? Miss miss uh? 2889 02:12:10,600 --> 02:12:14,360 Speaker 4: Let's see miss Cleo Jackie from two to seven jackk 2890 02:12:16,520 --> 02:12:19,280 Speaker 4: Like that's like it's all those things that kind of 2891 02:12:19,760 --> 02:12:21,960 Speaker 4: like I said, I think a black woman would just 2892 02:12:22,040 --> 02:12:25,879 Speaker 4: kind of know and come into that ring like let's 2893 02:12:26,400 --> 02:12:29,400 Speaker 4: let's have it out. The other thing is, maybe Katie 2894 02:12:29,440 --> 02:12:31,680 Speaker 4: Perry will never sit down across from a black woman 2895 02:12:31,680 --> 02:12:32,400 Speaker 4: because she knows better. 2896 02:12:33,040 --> 02:12:36,040 Speaker 7: They never do because the truth be told. 2897 02:12:37,680 --> 02:12:43,600 Speaker 9: When I feel like this, white women know that you 2898 02:12:43,880 --> 02:12:46,200 Speaker 9: cannot put no magical spells on us. 2899 02:12:46,320 --> 02:12:47,800 Speaker 7: We don't give fuck about your tears. 2900 02:12:48,200 --> 02:12:50,040 Speaker 9: We don't give about your makeup, we don't give a 2901 02:12:50,040 --> 02:12:52,240 Speaker 9: fuck about your falling out, we don't give fuck about 2902 02:12:52,280 --> 02:12:55,480 Speaker 9: your feelings. We are like, look, I got questions for you, 2903 02:12:55,560 --> 02:12:58,080 Speaker 9: and these are the questions that I won't answer. Here's 2904 02:12:58,120 --> 02:13:03,040 Speaker 9: a clinic, bitch a answer my questions. Like, you know, 2905 02:13:03,680 --> 02:13:06,120 Speaker 9: I'm not trying to fuck you, So my penis ain't 2906 02:13:06,120 --> 02:13:09,000 Speaker 9: getting hard looking at you. There's nothing, there's nothing sexual 2907 02:13:09,120 --> 02:13:11,600 Speaker 9: happening here, So there's nothing you can do to turn 2908 02:13:11,720 --> 02:13:14,720 Speaker 9: me on and to distract me from the questions. 2909 02:13:14,240 --> 02:13:15,520 Speaker 7: That I have for you. 2910 02:13:15,680 --> 02:13:19,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, I had this, but that's not right. 2911 02:13:21,280 --> 02:13:24,320 Speaker 4: It's not even like, yeah, well I think Karen's talking 2912 02:13:24,360 --> 02:13:27,480 Speaker 4: in general, but yeah, in general, like she can't use 2913 02:13:27,480 --> 02:13:31,000 Speaker 4: her feminine wiles on presumably on a black woman who's 2914 02:13:31,040 --> 02:13:32,480 Speaker 4: there to get in her ass, Like. 2915 02:13:33,000 --> 02:13:35,000 Speaker 6: You can't then be like, I'm Katy Perry. 2916 02:13:35,040 --> 02:13:38,320 Speaker 4: I'm just a nice, enchanted angel, and I'm here to 2917 02:13:38,400 --> 02:13:38,960 Speaker 4: empower you. 2918 02:13:39,480 --> 02:13:42,520 Speaker 6: It's like no, no, no, no no. What we're gonna 2919 02:13:42,520 --> 02:13:44,360 Speaker 6: do is explain to corn Rows and go to you. 2920 02:13:45,160 --> 02:13:48,440 Speaker 4: Let's go back to that specifically who was behind that decision? 2921 02:13:48,480 --> 02:13:51,960 Speaker 4: And nobody wants to have that conversation because like they 2922 02:13:52,000 --> 02:13:55,680 Speaker 4: can't spend it in the I've learned, I'm better, I 2923 02:13:55,880 --> 02:13:56,839 Speaker 4: read two things. 2924 02:13:56,960 --> 02:13:57,880 Speaker 6: They can't even do it. 2925 02:13:57,960 --> 02:14:01,120 Speaker 4: You know, you can't, no one anyway, there's there's more 2926 02:14:01,160 --> 02:14:05,560 Speaker 4: to the interview, and I'm sure you know it's you know, 2927 02:14:05,640 --> 02:14:07,720 Speaker 4: presumptuous to judge. 2928 02:14:07,440 --> 02:14:07,960 Speaker 6: The whole thing. 2929 02:14:08,440 --> 02:14:10,360 Speaker 4: I probably will check out the whole interview just to 2930 02:14:10,400 --> 02:14:14,000 Speaker 4: see if it gets any better than that, because you 2931 02:14:14,040 --> 02:14:16,840 Speaker 4: know that if that's the because normally you pick the 2932 02:14:16,880 --> 02:14:20,040 Speaker 4: hottest club. If that's the hottest clip, that's that's not 2933 02:14:20,320 --> 02:14:21,920 Speaker 4: that doesn't look very well, it's. 2934 02:14:21,800 --> 02:14:22,640 Speaker 7: Not it's not good. 2935 02:14:22,680 --> 02:14:26,280 Speaker 9: And my thing is, yeah, most of the time, the 2936 02:14:26,360 --> 02:14:28,360 Speaker 9: people that interview them, most of time, they're straight men. 2937 02:14:28,520 --> 02:14:29,840 Speaker 9: So that's why I was going on, most of the 2938 02:14:29,880 --> 02:14:32,760 Speaker 9: time the people that interview these blaite women are straight men. 2939 02:14:32,960 --> 02:14:35,840 Speaker 6: Well, they picked black men straight or it doesn't matter. 2940 02:14:36,040 --> 02:14:39,840 Speaker 4: They pick us because we are bridges to privilege, so 2941 02:14:40,000 --> 02:14:43,240 Speaker 4: we like they view us as well. You understand how 2942 02:14:43,280 --> 02:14:45,920 Speaker 4: these black women can be, right, that's how they view 2943 02:14:46,040 --> 02:14:49,280 Speaker 4: us like that, that's why they you know, Lela Dnnay 2944 02:14:49,320 --> 02:14:51,160 Speaker 4: had nothing in common with a black dude really, like 2945 02:14:51,720 --> 02:14:53,680 Speaker 4: you know, like you're picking. 2946 02:14:53,400 --> 02:14:55,440 Speaker 6: Him because you don't who you don't want to pick. 2947 02:14:55,520 --> 02:14:58,840 Speaker 4: He's they're just good enough for the optics without you 2948 02:14:58,920 --> 02:15:00,760 Speaker 4: sitting in the room with somebody that's really about to 2949 02:15:00,840 --> 02:15:01,520 Speaker 4: undress you. 2950 02:15:02,520 --> 02:15:03,400 Speaker 6: And that's all it is. 2951 02:15:03,440 --> 02:15:04,920 Speaker 4: And I don't ever want to be used that way, 2952 02:15:05,000 --> 02:15:09,200 Speaker 4: although I did have this wonderful idea where I present myself. 2953 02:15:08,960 --> 02:15:11,520 Speaker 6: As an interviewer for white women in distress. 2954 02:15:11,640 --> 02:15:15,800 Speaker 4: And then I leave the room like like Jerry Springer 2955 02:15:15,800 --> 02:15:18,760 Speaker 4: when they have those cheating tests. I leave and then 2956 02:15:18,800 --> 02:15:21,440 Speaker 4: like Karen, Karen just hops out the closet and does 2957 02:15:21,480 --> 02:15:22,560 Speaker 4: the interview while I'm gone. 2958 02:15:23,720 --> 02:15:24,400 Speaker 6: I would love that. 2959 02:15:24,480 --> 02:15:25,920 Speaker 4: I think it would be It would make a great 2960 02:15:25,960 --> 02:15:28,920 Speaker 4: interview series of just me being like Leana before we 2961 02:15:28,960 --> 02:15:30,240 Speaker 4: go in, I'm gonna. 2962 02:15:30,000 --> 02:15:30,720 Speaker 6: Get something to drink. 2963 02:15:30,760 --> 02:15:32,400 Speaker 4: I'll be right back, and that Karen just comes out 2964 02:15:32,440 --> 02:15:35,320 Speaker 4: like listen, bitch, and then she's like, what happened? 2965 02:15:35,320 --> 02:15:36,880 Speaker 6: What what happened to Rod? 2966 02:15:36,920 --> 02:15:38,640 Speaker 7: What happened to that nice man? 2967 02:15:38,880 --> 02:15:39,960 Speaker 5: Don't worry about him? 2968 02:15:40,360 --> 02:15:41,400 Speaker 6: Right like? 2969 02:15:41,400 --> 02:15:44,320 Speaker 4: Like I was, like I said, the problem. Only problem 2970 02:15:44,440 --> 02:15:48,800 Speaker 4: is if it's Karen Karen, white woman like Karen doesn't 2971 02:15:48,920 --> 02:15:52,839 Speaker 4: know white these white women and keep up with their antics. 2972 02:15:52,880 --> 02:15:55,560 Speaker 4: So I feel like Karen's interviews would still have a 2973 02:15:55,600 --> 02:15:58,520 Speaker 4: lot of people upset because she would be angry but. 2974 02:15:59,520 --> 02:16:02,360 Speaker 7: White mad because you're white. You done fucked up somewhere. 2975 02:16:02,360 --> 02:16:04,560 Speaker 7: I don't know what the fuck you did. Twitter said 2976 02:16:04,600 --> 02:16:06,320 Speaker 7: you fucked up where you fucked up? 2977 02:16:07,040 --> 02:16:09,520 Speaker 4: Half, yeah, half the interview is gonna be her asking 2978 02:16:09,560 --> 02:16:11,280 Speaker 4: who they are, who are you? 2979 02:16:11,520 --> 02:16:13,680 Speaker 6: What? What do you like? 2980 02:16:13,760 --> 02:16:15,680 Speaker 5: Make them explain themselves? 2981 02:16:15,920 --> 02:16:18,040 Speaker 3: Why are you even talking to What made you think 2982 02:16:18,080 --> 02:16:19,560 Speaker 3: you need to speak with rod today. 2983 02:16:19,880 --> 02:16:21,800 Speaker 7: I'm people where you come from? 2984 02:16:22,120 --> 02:16:23,960 Speaker 4: Like, I had a whole little skit I wrote out 2985 02:16:24,000 --> 02:16:27,120 Speaker 4: on Twitter that was like Karenvan like, now, who are 2986 02:16:27,160 --> 02:16:29,000 Speaker 4: you again, Katie Ferry? 2987 02:16:29,560 --> 02:16:33,200 Speaker 6: Katie, Uh, what do you do? I sing what you're saying? 2988 02:16:33,800 --> 02:16:34,039 Speaker 7: Uh? 2989 02:16:34,160 --> 02:16:39,520 Speaker 6: You know like fireworks? Fireworks? Uh roar like a like 2990 02:16:39,560 --> 02:16:40,200 Speaker 6: a dinosaur. 2991 02:16:40,440 --> 02:16:46,560 Speaker 4: Like I could just see a whole ass interview. I 2992 02:16:46,600 --> 02:16:48,200 Speaker 4: was like, at one point I had to come back 2993 02:16:48,200 --> 02:16:49,440 Speaker 4: in the room and be like Karen. 2994 02:16:49,480 --> 02:16:51,120 Speaker 6: She she was at the super She's saying at the 2995 02:16:51,120 --> 02:16:54,400 Speaker 6: super Bowl, the which one the one with Beyonce? No, 2996 02:16:54,440 --> 02:16:56,119 Speaker 6: not the not the one with Beyonce. 2997 02:16:55,920 --> 02:16:58,640 Speaker 7: The other one, beyon the one when she jumped out 2998 02:16:58,640 --> 02:16:59,320 Speaker 7: the roof, Not that. 2999 02:16:59,600 --> 02:17:02,640 Speaker 4: No, that's not different, white woman. She had the shark malfunctioned, 3000 02:17:02,680 --> 02:17:04,800 Speaker 4: the sharks was dancing wrong? What you do to get 3001 02:17:04,840 --> 02:17:06,680 Speaker 4: in this room? What's your name? And I and then 3002 02:17:06,760 --> 02:17:09,400 Speaker 4: Katy Perry be like Rodrick, can you stay? And I'll 3003 02:17:09,400 --> 02:17:11,120 Speaker 4: be like, nah, I gotta go. I just I just 3004 02:17:11,120 --> 02:17:15,000 Speaker 4: wanted to correct that information by Caddy. You know, She's like, 3005 02:17:15,040 --> 02:17:16,320 Speaker 4: but it's not Caddy, it's Katie. 3006 02:17:16,720 --> 02:17:17,080 Speaker 6: Whatever. 3007 02:17:17,800 --> 02:17:22,800 Speaker 4: Good luck anyway, Zero two hundred guys at all Katy 3008 02:17:22,879 --> 02:17:28,000 Speaker 4: Perry's interview. Karen, Oh, she get a hundred, k she's 3009 02:17:28,040 --> 02:17:30,680 Speaker 4: one hundred all Star scenes, Okay, all. 3010 02:17:30,640 --> 02:17:33,920 Speaker 5: Right, Leslie, Yeah, she definitely gets a hundred. 3011 02:17:34,360 --> 02:17:39,200 Speaker 6: Marissa gets a hundred. Yeah. Yeah, I'm talking a whole Yeah, 3012 02:17:39,240 --> 02:17:39,959 Speaker 6: the whole interview. 3013 02:17:40,440 --> 02:17:42,680 Speaker 5: Okay, good because let. 3014 02:17:42,640 --> 02:17:43,039 Speaker 2: Her do it. 3015 02:17:43,680 --> 02:17:47,000 Speaker 4: Mmm, so fifty for so you only half fucked with 3016 02:17:47,920 --> 02:17:50,200 Speaker 4: m all right, all right, yeah, I think it's one 3017 02:17:50,240 --> 02:17:52,879 Speaker 4: hundred for me. Man, I just don't want to see us, 3018 02:17:53,240 --> 02:17:56,080 Speaker 4: any of us. And I know it's impossible because you know, 3019 02:17:56,280 --> 02:17:58,600 Speaker 4: we ate a mono left, but I just hate to 3020 02:17:58,600 --> 02:18:01,199 Speaker 4: see any black person. A trick been into the softening 3021 02:18:01,320 --> 02:18:05,000 Speaker 4: of these these motherfuckers that violate like this because it 3022 02:18:05,320 --> 02:18:08,480 Speaker 4: feels like they don't they're They're only there for the 3023 02:18:08,520 --> 02:18:10,600 Speaker 4: same reason that Bill Maher had the black people on 3024 02:18:10,640 --> 02:18:13,600 Speaker 4: his show Friday, which is to signal to other white 3025 02:18:13,640 --> 02:18:17,360 Speaker 4: people if this black person is not hostile towards me 3026 02:18:17,760 --> 02:18:20,640 Speaker 4: and accepting of me, then that means you guys can 3027 02:18:20,760 --> 02:18:25,080 Speaker 4: come back to liking me again because I'm not racist. 3028 02:18:25,560 --> 02:18:28,320 Speaker 3: Also, it gets used as a bludgeon because I guarantee 3029 02:18:28,360 --> 02:18:29,840 Speaker 3: you what will happened this next. 3030 02:18:29,600 --> 02:18:30,800 Speaker 5: Couple of weeks is that people. 3031 02:18:31,000 --> 02:18:33,520 Speaker 3: White women will take this clip and they'll show it 3032 02:18:33,560 --> 02:18:36,280 Speaker 3: to whatever black woman is telling them the real and 3033 02:18:36,320 --> 02:18:39,600 Speaker 3: telling them that, and they'll say, look, if you did 3034 02:18:39,760 --> 02:18:42,199 Speaker 3: look at Katy Perry, if you spoke to me nicely, 3035 02:18:42,680 --> 02:18:45,240 Speaker 3: then I would understand what you were saying, because you know, 3036 02:18:45,560 --> 02:18:49,960 Speaker 3: for four hundred fucking years, being focused on white feelings 3037 02:18:50,080 --> 02:18:53,160 Speaker 3: has really contributed to any racism thus far, It's really 3038 02:18:53,200 --> 02:18:54,640 Speaker 3: worked out well for all of us. 3039 02:18:54,879 --> 02:18:57,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And I think I think the difference to 3040 02:18:57,520 --> 02:18:59,320 Speaker 1: what the mayor thing is is like, if you're going 3041 02:18:59,360 --> 02:19:02,800 Speaker 1: on Bill maryer'sh you're going on his platform, right, this 3042 02:19:03,120 --> 02:19:04,880 Speaker 1: is supposed to be Deray's platform. 3043 02:19:04,920 --> 02:19:07,520 Speaker 2: You know, we're always talking about wanting to have black. 3044 02:19:07,320 --> 02:19:10,640 Speaker 1: Folks gotta get in the system, gotta work your way up. 3045 02:19:10,760 --> 02:19:12,280 Speaker 2: Well, this is why you have to do all these 3046 02:19:12,320 --> 02:19:14,080 Speaker 2: fuck up things. You can get those village abilities, you 3047 02:19:14,160 --> 02:19:17,720 Speaker 2: get this platform to do good, okay, But then if 3048 02:19:17,760 --> 02:19:18,959 Speaker 2: you can't do shit when you. 3049 02:19:18,840 --> 02:19:20,560 Speaker 1: Have the platform, if you if you have the platform, 3050 02:19:20,600 --> 02:19:23,840 Speaker 1: you still allow fuckory. Either that's on you or there 3051 02:19:23,879 --> 02:19:25,000 Speaker 1: was no point in working. 3052 02:19:24,840 --> 02:19:27,959 Speaker 2: Up the system anyway. So it's like that's my. 3053 02:19:28,000 --> 02:19:30,360 Speaker 1: Thing is It's like this is you know when You're like, 3054 02:19:30,640 --> 02:19:33,080 Speaker 1: I think it is different than than you know, Bill Marry, 3055 02:19:33,120 --> 02:19:36,280 Speaker 1: because this is supposed to be this this quote un 3056 02:19:36,560 --> 02:19:40,640 Speaker 1: black man leader in the movement's fucking national ass platform 3057 02:19:41,200 --> 02:19:43,200 Speaker 1: and we'll see the rest of it. But this is 3058 02:19:43,240 --> 02:19:45,240 Speaker 1: what he allowed to take place in those two minutes, 3059 02:19:45,640 --> 02:19:49,199 Speaker 1: and I think, like, honestly that does fall on him. 3060 02:19:49,480 --> 02:19:51,680 Speaker 1: They're neither falls on him or it shows that the 3061 02:19:51,680 --> 02:19:54,600 Speaker 1: whole facade of like wanting black people to work up 3062 02:19:54,600 --> 02:19:55,840 Speaker 1: the rink is a sham. 3063 02:19:56,360 --> 02:19:56,560 Speaker 6: Yeah. 3064 02:19:56,560 --> 02:19:59,400 Speaker 4: I think the thing with uh, the reason I said 3065 02:19:59,520 --> 02:20:02,000 Speaker 4: mar it's not because of him, but the black people 3066 02:20:02,000 --> 02:20:05,600 Speaker 4: that went on. They were just there to sign to 3067 02:20:05,680 --> 02:20:08,320 Speaker 4: signal to white people. It was never about black people. 3068 02:20:08,920 --> 02:20:09,760 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying when. 3069 02:20:09,680 --> 02:20:12,360 Speaker 2: I and I don't even care for her. 3070 02:20:12,720 --> 02:20:13,880 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, Simone sayder. 3071 02:20:13,959 --> 02:20:15,920 Speaker 4: First of all, Simone Sanders did come through and she 3072 02:20:16,120 --> 02:20:20,640 Speaker 4: was what not addressed at all by anyone, So right, 3073 02:20:20,680 --> 02:20:23,160 Speaker 4: the one person that did center like, well, what about 3074 02:20:23,160 --> 02:20:23,879 Speaker 4: these black people? 3075 02:20:24,040 --> 02:20:25,800 Speaker 6: It was like, this is not about them? 3076 02:20:26,520 --> 02:20:29,640 Speaker 4: Right, So that's what I'm saying, is like that this 3077 02:20:29,800 --> 02:20:32,320 Speaker 4: interview gave me the same feeling of oh, it's not 3078 02:20:32,360 --> 02:20:35,360 Speaker 4: about us, it's about her promoting her brand and her 3079 02:20:35,400 --> 02:20:37,440 Speaker 4: album and being like, I'm still a good white person 3080 02:20:37,440 --> 02:20:40,000 Speaker 4: and white people who buy my stuff because. 3081 02:20:39,840 --> 02:20:41,920 Speaker 2: Even album shot in the background. 3082 02:20:41,600 --> 02:20:45,680 Speaker 4: Right right right, yeah her, And I'm sure that's part 3083 02:20:45,720 --> 02:20:49,600 Speaker 4: of the deal, you know, like, uh, whatever fucking setup 3084 02:20:49,640 --> 02:20:51,520 Speaker 4: she does, her people are gonna be like, and you're 3085 02:20:51,560 --> 02:20:53,760 Speaker 4: gonna get the album, right cause, I mean, if not, 3086 02:20:53,800 --> 02:20:56,280 Speaker 4: we can leave. Like so it's it's that, But that 3087 02:20:56,320 --> 02:20:58,440 Speaker 4: tells you what it's about. It's about selling all that. 3088 02:20:58,680 --> 02:21:00,760 Speaker 4: But see, that's the same thing. We've had to make 3089 02:21:00,800 --> 02:21:01,560 Speaker 4: decisions like this. 3090 02:21:01,560 --> 02:21:04,959 Speaker 6: With our show. Like we've had people that they're doing. 3091 02:21:04,800 --> 02:21:07,200 Speaker 4: Press towards they have a book to promote, they have 3092 02:21:07,320 --> 02:21:10,360 Speaker 4: a you know, the their celebrity and some other right, 3093 02:21:10,400 --> 02:21:12,240 Speaker 4: and they want to be affiliated with our type of 3094 02:21:12,240 --> 02:21:15,360 Speaker 4: blackness and get our audience. We've had to make that decision. 3095 02:21:15,360 --> 02:21:18,080 Speaker 4: It's the beauty of working for ourselves. It's the beauty 3096 02:21:18,120 --> 02:21:20,120 Speaker 4: of like being more than just the name on the 3097 02:21:20,160 --> 02:21:23,959 Speaker 4: front of like a brand where it's just like, actually, 3098 02:21:24,000 --> 02:21:26,040 Speaker 4: there's twenty seven people that work here and then it's 3099 02:21:26,080 --> 02:21:28,720 Speaker 4: called the Blank Show. So like the beauty is that 3100 02:21:28,760 --> 02:21:30,600 Speaker 4: me and Karen can be like, I don't like that, nigga, 3101 02:21:30,640 --> 02:21:32,480 Speaker 4: I don't like that nigga either fuck them, don't put 3102 02:21:32,480 --> 02:21:34,800 Speaker 4: them on the show, like we can be like that. 3103 02:21:34,959 --> 02:21:38,320 Speaker 4: And I think that's that's something. I think that's something that, 3104 02:21:38,400 --> 02:21:40,800 Speaker 4: like you said, when you work your way up into 3105 02:21:40,840 --> 02:21:44,199 Speaker 4: a situation. There's too many situations for black people where 3106 02:21:44,600 --> 02:21:47,480 Speaker 4: it's just lose lose anyway, like, yeah, your name's on 3107 02:21:47,520 --> 02:21:50,600 Speaker 4: the door. You don't own shit, you know, if they 3108 02:21:50,680 --> 02:21:55,600 Speaker 4: if fucking I don't like whatever, if loud speakers or 3109 02:21:56,000 --> 02:21:58,160 Speaker 4: whoever tells you you gotta do something, you either got 3110 02:21:58,280 --> 02:22:00,840 Speaker 4: to do it or quit, you know, like like it's 3111 02:22:00,879 --> 02:22:04,680 Speaker 4: some like it's some point. There's always this fucking compromise 3112 02:22:04,840 --> 02:22:06,520 Speaker 4: and that And like I said, when I see an 3113 02:22:06,520 --> 02:22:09,560 Speaker 4: interview like that, at least from the two minute clip, 3114 02:22:10,000 --> 02:22:12,800 Speaker 4: like let me reiterate, do not write me, I don't 3115 02:22:12,800 --> 02:22:15,359 Speaker 4: know if the shit if I see sixty minutes. 3116 02:22:15,120 --> 02:22:16,959 Speaker 6: Of it later and I go, all right, well, I 3117 02:22:16,959 --> 02:22:17,800 Speaker 6: guess he did ask. 3118 02:22:17,680 --> 02:22:20,400 Speaker 4: Some question like cool, But as of now, the two 3119 02:22:20,400 --> 02:22:23,119 Speaker 4: minute clip they chose to use to promote it, it's. 3120 02:22:22,959 --> 02:22:24,720 Speaker 6: Gonna leave a lot of people with sour tastes in 3121 02:22:24,720 --> 02:22:27,440 Speaker 6: their mouth if they black. A lot of white people 3122 02:22:27,440 --> 02:22:28,240 Speaker 6: look that shit like. 3123 02:22:28,240 --> 02:22:32,160 Speaker 4: Good, oh, thank god, pooh she's she's not racist anymore. 3124 02:22:32,200 --> 02:22:33,560 Speaker 6: Guys, we can start liking her again. 3125 02:22:33,600 --> 02:22:35,320 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go cut my hair down to the fifty 3126 02:22:35,320 --> 02:22:38,360 Speaker 4: three percent and get out here and start dancing. But 3127 02:22:38,440 --> 02:22:40,560 Speaker 4: for the rest of us, it's like, man, that's an 3128 02:22:40,600 --> 02:22:45,640 Speaker 4: opportunity that felt wasted to have her explain more and 3129 02:22:45,680 --> 02:22:48,160 Speaker 4: to go into depth with her specific inference, like her 3130 02:22:48,200 --> 02:22:54,200 Speaker 4: specific trespasses. And as always, like I said, uh, it 3131 02:22:54,280 --> 02:22:56,320 Speaker 4: always looks bad when it's our black woman in the 3132 02:22:56,400 --> 02:22:59,800 Speaker 4: room asking those questions. It's just always going to the 3133 02:23:00,320 --> 02:23:02,920 Speaker 4: anytime someone specifically trespasses against black women. 3134 02:23:02,959 --> 02:23:04,640 Speaker 6: We are now at a point twenty seventeen. 3135 02:23:05,920 --> 02:23:08,760 Speaker 4: We all know better, we all because we always see 3136 02:23:08,760 --> 02:23:10,880 Speaker 4: the feedback when it doesn't go right. 3137 02:23:10,959 --> 02:23:13,400 Speaker 6: We always see it. There's so much shit that I'm 3138 02:23:13,440 --> 02:23:15,560 Speaker 6: just like, I'll read an interview from a black. 3139 02:23:15,400 --> 02:23:17,959 Speaker 4: Woman talking to some one of these motherfuckers, and I'm like, yep, 3140 02:23:18,000 --> 02:23:20,080 Speaker 4: you would have never thought of that question. She thought 3141 02:23:20,080 --> 02:23:22,560 Speaker 4: of that because she lived at you know what I mean. 3142 02:23:22,600 --> 02:23:25,440 Speaker 4: There's no like, there's no way for me to relate 3143 02:23:25,520 --> 02:23:29,760 Speaker 4: to that, you know, so anyway, man, like I would 3144 02:23:29,800 --> 02:23:30,840 Speaker 4: have probably said no to. 3145 02:23:30,800 --> 02:23:34,080 Speaker 6: An interview like that. Specifically, it's a little different. 3146 02:23:34,360 --> 02:23:36,120 Speaker 4: It's a little different for us because Karen would have 3147 02:23:36,160 --> 02:23:38,560 Speaker 4: been here, But in general, I just don't want to 3148 02:23:38,600 --> 02:23:40,160 Speaker 4: be part of your redemption toward aug. 3149 02:23:40,640 --> 02:23:43,959 Speaker 3: But today there was an article about I think it 3150 02:23:44,080 --> 02:23:49,240 Speaker 3: was Amanda Sears. It seals that she was at a 3151 02:23:49,320 --> 02:23:51,760 Speaker 3: I guess a dinner party that Katy Perry had live 3152 02:23:52,400 --> 02:23:55,480 Speaker 3: like broadcasts. It was supposed to bring together like all 3153 02:23:55,520 --> 02:23:57,520 Speaker 3: of these thought leaders and this that the other thing. 3154 02:23:57,560 --> 02:24:00,240 Speaker 3: And she gave a talking to to Caitlyn Jenner And 3155 02:24:00,280 --> 02:24:02,760 Speaker 3: now I'm wondering was drageous at this dinner party and 3156 02:24:02,800 --> 02:24:05,640 Speaker 3: they did the show while they were there, Not that 3157 02:24:05,680 --> 02:24:08,560 Speaker 3: it changes anything, but it's interesting to me to see 3158 02:24:09,400 --> 02:24:12,480 Speaker 3: like what would have been a personal invitation turn into 3159 02:24:12,520 --> 02:24:15,840 Speaker 3: something else. And that's why when Marissa says about like 3160 02:24:15,879 --> 02:24:18,520 Speaker 3: the platforms that we you know, attain or whatever, the 3161 02:24:18,840 --> 02:24:21,000 Speaker 3: privilege that we have and the platforms that we build, 3162 02:24:21,400 --> 02:24:23,880 Speaker 3: you know, one of the hardest things about Safety Paint 3163 02:24:23,879 --> 02:24:26,040 Speaker 3: Box for us has been like having to wear a 3164 02:24:26,080 --> 02:24:28,760 Speaker 3: business woman and an organizer hat at the same time, 3165 02:24:28,840 --> 02:24:30,960 Speaker 3: Like knowing when we need to put one of those 3166 02:24:31,000 --> 02:24:32,520 Speaker 3: on and when we need to put the other one, 3167 02:24:32,879 --> 02:24:34,760 Speaker 3: take take the other off, and vice versa, because we 3168 02:24:34,800 --> 02:24:37,440 Speaker 3: are trying to build a sustainable business because that's how 3169 02:24:37,480 --> 02:24:39,600 Speaker 3: we get the things that we want for ourselves as 3170 02:24:39,640 --> 02:24:42,160 Speaker 3: individuals and for other people. But at the same time, 3171 02:24:42,480 --> 02:24:45,000 Speaker 3: we have to always consider our politic and there's been 3172 02:24:45,080 --> 02:24:47,320 Speaker 3: opportunities where we're like, you know what, I don't know 3173 02:24:47,320 --> 02:24:49,520 Speaker 3: if we can do that. Even one of the articles 3174 02:24:49,520 --> 02:24:52,320 Speaker 3: that we got the most playoff of, which was in 3175 02:24:52,400 --> 02:24:55,119 Speaker 3: New York Magazine. You know, they were the first people 3176 02:24:55,160 --> 02:24:57,040 Speaker 3: to write like a hatchet job on us right after 3177 02:24:57,080 --> 02:24:59,320 Speaker 3: we launched, like this horrible like opinion piece that they 3178 02:24:59,440 --> 02:25:01,240 Speaker 3: published about how terrible we were. 3179 02:25:01,480 --> 02:25:03,320 Speaker 5: And when they came calling this second time, like. 3180 02:25:03,280 --> 02:25:05,440 Speaker 3: We had to have our conversation like should we just 3181 02:25:05,440 --> 02:25:08,600 Speaker 3: tell these motherfuckers like nah, fuck you or do we 3182 02:25:08,720 --> 02:25:10,680 Speaker 3: use the platform? And we decided to go ahead because 3183 02:25:10,680 --> 02:25:13,240 Speaker 3: it was a different conversation. But those are the decisions 3184 02:25:13,480 --> 02:25:15,400 Speaker 3: that people are faced with every day, and we do 3185 02:25:15,480 --> 02:25:17,440 Speaker 3: have to take responsibility for them. If we had said 3186 02:25:17,520 --> 02:25:19,600 Speaker 3: yes to that article and it was function again, like, 3187 02:25:19,640 --> 02:25:21,360 Speaker 3: we only would have ourselves to blame in that moment 3188 02:25:21,400 --> 02:25:23,800 Speaker 3: because we went into this, you know, eyes by open 3189 02:25:23,959 --> 02:25:27,640 Speaker 3: understanding how people can utilize our blackness right for their 3190 02:25:27,680 --> 02:25:31,080 Speaker 3: own gain and their own purposes that have nothing to 3191 02:25:31,080 --> 02:25:33,520 Speaker 3: do with what we came to the table for. And 3192 02:25:33,800 --> 02:25:36,080 Speaker 3: it's it's just, you know, one of those black taxes 3193 02:25:36,120 --> 02:25:38,920 Speaker 3: that we always have to know that we are paying consistently. 3194 02:25:39,160 --> 02:25:40,960 Speaker 5: And if we're gonna public about our shit. 3195 02:25:41,280 --> 02:25:44,120 Speaker 1: And that being said, if Trump ever invites safety in 3196 02:25:44,160 --> 02:25:45,520 Speaker 1: box the White House, we going. 3197 02:25:45,920 --> 02:25:50,720 Speaker 6: Well, all right? Also, no I do. 3198 02:25:51,080 --> 02:25:53,640 Speaker 4: I went all right, like cause I'm telling you, like 3199 02:25:53,760 --> 02:25:57,840 Speaker 4: I consistently, I'm not doing the work. So whatever the 3200 02:25:57,840 --> 02:26:00,360 Speaker 4: fuck y'all do, I'm just gonna be like, I hope 3201 02:26:00,400 --> 02:26:03,440 Speaker 4: that works out, Like I'm not. I don't feel any 3202 02:26:03,560 --> 02:26:05,440 Speaker 4: level of authority, and I think way too many people 3203 02:26:05,440 --> 02:26:07,080 Speaker 4: feel a level of authority over. 3204 02:26:06,959 --> 02:26:08,240 Speaker 6: People that have done the work. 3205 02:26:08,440 --> 02:26:12,640 Speaker 4: Like I don't like that, but I know so if y'all, 3206 02:26:12,640 --> 02:26:14,160 Speaker 4: I just be like, they must got a plan. They 3207 02:26:14,240 --> 02:26:17,039 Speaker 4: probably like stole a laptop, they got the new clip hods. 3208 02:26:17,120 --> 02:26:21,640 Speaker 4: I don't know, like I don't yeah, like I don't 3209 02:26:21,680 --> 02:26:23,879 Speaker 4: know what it is, but I trust them hopefull they 3210 02:26:23,920 --> 02:26:24,560 Speaker 4: got something going. 3211 02:26:24,600 --> 02:26:25,959 Speaker 6: But what I was gonna say to. 3212 02:26:27,440 --> 02:26:30,039 Speaker 4: With all like this redemption towards shit that you know 3213 02:26:30,120 --> 02:26:35,400 Speaker 4: she's doing bringing everybody together, there's also the thing where 3214 02:26:35,680 --> 02:26:40,560 Speaker 4: podcasting is more difficult than y'all think, and you can 3215 02:26:40,600 --> 02:26:45,320 Speaker 4: get used real quick because people will be like, I 3216 02:26:45,440 --> 02:26:47,800 Speaker 4: like Kate, when you see Katie Perry, you're watching any 3217 02:26:47,879 --> 02:26:52,280 Speaker 4: media machine. Who knows what the preconditions for the interviewing are, 3218 02:26:52,680 --> 02:26:55,160 Speaker 4: who knows what the fuck you can't ask her? Who 3219 02:26:55,240 --> 02:26:57,560 Speaker 4: knows how much time limit she has, who knows how 3220 02:26:57,560 --> 02:26:59,600 Speaker 4: many people are in her ear being like, like you 3221 02:26:59,640 --> 02:27:00,840 Speaker 4: ask a question, they step up. 3222 02:27:00,920 --> 02:27:01,760 Speaker 6: No, no, no, no, no, you. 3223 02:27:01,720 --> 02:27:04,480 Speaker 4: Can't no, you can't ask k that, So you gotta 3224 02:27:04,560 --> 02:27:07,120 Speaker 4: rephrase that. We're not talking about that thing. So like 3225 02:27:07,320 --> 02:27:09,879 Speaker 4: who knows you're talking to a It's a business at 3226 02:27:09,879 --> 02:27:13,920 Speaker 4: that point. So while it might they sell organic like 3227 02:27:14,040 --> 02:27:17,200 Speaker 4: Oprah sales organic. Like you see an interview and you think, oh, 3228 02:27:17,320 --> 02:27:20,200 Speaker 4: they sat down, had tea and talked to you know 3229 02:27:20,280 --> 02:27:23,360 Speaker 4: the fuck they didn't like like like that was a 3230 02:27:23,440 --> 02:27:25,959 Speaker 4: business meeting you just watched happen. You know that was 3231 02:27:26,000 --> 02:27:28,520 Speaker 4: PR for one person and PR for the other person. 3232 02:27:28,640 --> 02:27:30,560 Speaker 6: Show too. I'm gonna need a juicy clip. 3233 02:27:30,640 --> 02:27:32,160 Speaker 4: You know, I'll help you pronote your book, but I'm 3234 02:27:32,160 --> 02:27:34,440 Speaker 4: gonna need two minutes when you're saying something, so like 3235 02:27:34,600 --> 02:27:36,480 Speaker 4: until you have the pull and the leverage and the 3236 02:27:36,520 --> 02:27:39,600 Speaker 4: experience like you might end up in situations like this. 3237 02:27:39,800 --> 02:27:42,600 Speaker 6: Maybe I saw Deray was. 3238 02:27:42,600 --> 02:27:44,480 Speaker 4: Going back and forth with people saying, you know, hey, 3239 02:27:44,560 --> 02:27:48,680 Speaker 4: people are being critical. I'm listening. Look, maybe he'll learn 3240 02:27:48,680 --> 02:27:51,119 Speaker 4: from this. This is only like the fourth episode or something. 3241 02:27:51,760 --> 02:27:53,959 Speaker 4: Maybe he'll learn from it, man, cause I don't think 3242 02:27:54,000 --> 02:27:55,920 Speaker 4: you get two of these. I don't think you get 3243 02:27:56,240 --> 02:27:57,480 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, for a lot of people, 3244 02:27:57,520 --> 02:28:00,320 Speaker 4: you don't get one of these. So so like it's 3245 02:28:00,360 --> 02:28:02,360 Speaker 4: you know, if it's if it isn't, like I said, 3246 02:28:02,360 --> 02:28:05,240 Speaker 4: I only saw two minutes. If it isn't, you know, 3247 02:28:05,560 --> 02:28:09,080 Speaker 4: fire them other fifty eight minutes, then it's gonna have 3248 02:28:09,080 --> 02:28:11,600 Speaker 4: to be a teachable moment, learn an opportunity something, because 3249 02:28:11,600 --> 02:28:14,400 Speaker 4: you can't do this twice man, you know, especially the 3250 02:28:14,480 --> 02:28:16,720 Speaker 4: thing with the or maybe respond to the feedback on 3251 02:28:16,760 --> 02:28:19,879 Speaker 4: your show or something like address up, bring somebody on 3252 02:28:19,959 --> 02:28:23,080 Speaker 4: to talk about it with you, like something, because like 3253 02:28:23,160 --> 02:28:23,800 Speaker 4: that's such. 3254 02:28:23,600 --> 02:28:26,360 Speaker 2: A huge But he tweeted about it. 3255 02:28:26,879 --> 02:28:29,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, well I saw him tweeting about like, I'm learning 3256 02:28:29,560 --> 02:28:33,840 Speaker 4: from this. I appreciate constructive criticism. Is the point, I 3257 02:28:33,840 --> 02:28:35,640 Speaker 4: can't even talk to her, y'all, not even want me 3258 02:28:35,680 --> 02:28:37,400 Speaker 4: to talk to her? What is the you know, when 3259 02:28:37,400 --> 02:28:39,560 Speaker 4: people were giving him feedback Because it's Twitter, It's not 3260 02:28:39,720 --> 02:28:42,400 Speaker 4: like one person was like and this is the right answer. 3261 02:28:42,480 --> 02:28:45,480 Speaker 6: It was a bunch of people and as all you 3262 02:28:45,480 --> 02:28:46,440 Speaker 6: can do is take that in. 3263 02:28:46,760 --> 02:28:50,680 Speaker 4: So whether the preponderance of people are like, fuck that, 3264 02:28:50,879 --> 02:28:54,240 Speaker 4: don't talk to that trick or whatever, or whether they're like, 3265 02:28:54,560 --> 02:28:58,000 Speaker 4: do talk to her? But where are these questions at? 3266 02:28:58,320 --> 02:29:00,120 Speaker 4: You have to make a decision for your show, on 3267 02:29:00,200 --> 02:29:02,800 Speaker 4: your brand, what you're willing to live with. The question 3268 02:29:02,879 --> 02:29:06,800 Speaker 4: for me is always gonna come back down to what 3269 02:29:06,840 --> 02:29:10,160 Speaker 4: was to gain from the interview of having that person. 3270 02:29:10,480 --> 02:29:13,680 Speaker 4: If I can't give the interview that needs to happen, 3271 02:29:13,920 --> 02:29:15,840 Speaker 4: then I don't want the person on my airways. 3272 02:29:16,640 --> 02:29:18,480 Speaker 3: I think that happens a lot when we see podcasts 3273 02:29:18,520 --> 02:29:21,960 Speaker 3: that are like brought forward by like somebody's backing it right, 3274 02:29:21,959 --> 02:29:25,520 Speaker 3: because they're not building their own platform in that case, right, 3275 02:29:25,840 --> 02:29:28,520 Speaker 3: somebody gave them a specific you know, brand that they've 3276 02:29:28,560 --> 02:29:31,480 Speaker 3: purchased in this moment to do whatever. And that's what 3277 02:29:31,560 --> 02:29:33,240 Speaker 3: it seems like a lot of these newer podcasts are. 3278 02:29:33,240 --> 02:29:34,560 Speaker 3: And it's not a slight on them. I've had some 3279 02:29:34,600 --> 02:29:37,640 Speaker 3: of them are very good. Whatever you know that have 3280 02:29:37,720 --> 02:29:39,560 Speaker 3: come out Another Round is a great example of a 3281 02:29:39,680 --> 02:29:41,160 Speaker 3: it's a good podcast. 3282 02:29:40,840 --> 02:29:43,959 Speaker 5: Right, the hosts are really great, but also the. 3283 02:29:43,920 --> 02:29:47,439 Speaker 3: Platform is not just them, right, it's a BuzzFeed product. 3284 02:29:47,600 --> 02:29:49,720 Speaker 3: And so you see that it's very different than what 3285 02:29:49,760 --> 02:29:52,000 Speaker 3: you and Karen do, which is you've. 3286 02:29:51,720 --> 02:29:53,160 Speaker 5: Decided, Okay, this is our house. 3287 02:29:53,400 --> 02:29:54,960 Speaker 3: We're going to do this the way we want to 3288 02:29:55,000 --> 02:29:57,400 Speaker 3: do it, and everything that comes through is going to 3289 02:29:57,440 --> 02:29:59,640 Speaker 3: be reflective of our brand and what we want it 3290 02:29:59,640 --> 02:30:02,440 Speaker 3: to be. And there's gonna be cost a lot of 3291 02:30:02,480 --> 02:30:05,039 Speaker 3: the other podcasts, and there's gonna be cost of that too, 3292 02:30:05,240 --> 02:30:07,360 Speaker 3: Like that ship, that's ship they can and I'll never have, 3293 02:30:08,080 --> 02:30:09,440 Speaker 3: Like we ain't visiting the White House. 3294 02:30:09,560 --> 02:30:10,720 Speaker 6: That's that's never happening. 3295 02:30:11,120 --> 02:30:13,280 Speaker 4: So, like there's also limitations to it, so you have 3296 02:30:13,360 --> 02:30:15,320 Speaker 4: to make the choices that you want to stick with. 3297 02:30:15,920 --> 02:30:20,320 Speaker 4: And also if you do roast Caddy Perry, your ass ain't. 3298 02:30:20,080 --> 02:30:22,199 Speaker 6: Getting no other interviews from. 3299 02:30:22,000 --> 02:30:24,640 Speaker 4: These other pop chicks, like when they like that was 3300 02:30:24,680 --> 02:30:27,120 Speaker 4: your shot, you know what I mean? So it's just 3301 02:30:27,200 --> 02:30:29,560 Speaker 4: what this fuck do you want to live with? Basically, 3302 02:30:30,160 --> 02:30:33,960 Speaker 4: I choose to live with I number one first and foremost. 3303 02:30:34,000 --> 02:30:36,640 Speaker 4: I have to respect myself and then number two, I 3304 02:30:36,680 --> 02:30:38,560 Speaker 4: want to have a respect of my people. 3305 02:30:38,760 --> 02:30:40,200 Speaker 6: You know what I mean, Like I don't ever want 3306 02:30:40,200 --> 02:30:42,640 Speaker 6: to be like fuck these niggas. 3307 02:30:42,680 --> 02:30:44,240 Speaker 4: I just gotta get it today, you know, Like I 3308 02:30:44,240 --> 02:30:46,039 Speaker 4: always kind of want to consider. 3309 02:30:45,680 --> 02:30:47,920 Speaker 9: Like I don't know the price is right with Karen 3310 02:30:47,920 --> 02:30:50,160 Speaker 9: will sell y'all, you might sell out and next thing 3311 02:30:50,240 --> 02:30:54,280 Speaker 9: you know, we're gonna be y'all competition selling safety cushions. 3312 02:30:54,360 --> 02:30:56,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, Karen will sell out in a heartbeat. I'm the 3313 02:30:56,760 --> 02:30:59,400 Speaker 4: only one that will be trying to hold it back. 3314 02:30:59,480 --> 02:31:01,320 Speaker 4: But if I ever see me on TV with a 3315 02:31:01,360 --> 02:31:04,879 Speaker 4: perm and a jigging suit, y'all know, y'all know that 3316 02:31:04,959 --> 02:31:05,720 Speaker 4: Karen was like. 3317 02:31:06,240 --> 02:31:07,039 Speaker 6: Just too convincing. 3318 02:31:07,200 --> 02:31:12,360 Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, I've tried to fight for y'all, but yeah, man, 3319 02:31:12,400 --> 02:31:13,760 Speaker 4: I don't know. Man, When I saw that in of 3320 02:31:13,879 --> 02:31:17,880 Speaker 4: y'all's just like everything wrong for two minutes. And I 3321 02:31:17,879 --> 02:31:21,080 Speaker 4: hope that he either quits himself or learns from that 3322 02:31:21,400 --> 02:31:23,959 Speaker 4: or whatever, because I do think podcasting shit is difficult, 3323 02:31:24,000 --> 02:31:27,240 Speaker 4: and I think that media game that's a whole other level. 3324 02:31:27,760 --> 02:31:30,080 Speaker 4: When you start fucking them big ass pop stars and shit, 3325 02:31:30,240 --> 02:31:32,680 Speaker 4: they're sick. They fans on you, they're sick, They lawyers 3326 02:31:32,720 --> 02:31:34,640 Speaker 4: on you, all kinds of shit. 3327 02:31:34,959 --> 02:31:35,920 Speaker 6: So I don't want to. 3328 02:31:35,840 --> 02:31:39,000 Speaker 3: Get I say the only thing that I would throw 3329 02:31:39,000 --> 02:31:42,400 Speaker 3: in there is that I will say this of Deray, 3330 02:31:43,000 --> 02:31:47,560 Speaker 3: he is probably the most media savvy personality in this 3331 02:31:47,680 --> 02:31:51,240 Speaker 3: movement period. If there's anybody that has no excuse to 3332 02:31:51,280 --> 02:31:53,959 Speaker 3: say I don't know how media works, it's him. He 3333 02:31:54,080 --> 02:31:57,120 Speaker 3: is incredibly media savvy. It's his strong students. He has 3334 02:31:57,200 --> 02:31:59,120 Speaker 3: led with it from day one. This is why you 3335 02:31:59,160 --> 02:32:03,160 Speaker 3: see him on these large platforms, schooling grown ask people 3336 02:32:03,200 --> 02:32:05,520 Speaker 3: whose jobs it is to talk about the same stuff 3337 02:32:05,560 --> 02:32:08,280 Speaker 3: you know in his best because he is very media savvy. 3338 02:32:08,560 --> 02:32:10,760 Speaker 3: So I don't think it's a case of him not knowing. 3339 02:32:11,959 --> 02:32:14,640 Speaker 3: I find that hard to believe. And so when you 3340 02:32:14,680 --> 02:32:17,840 Speaker 3: say that that that statement about you're watching two PR 3341 02:32:17,959 --> 02:32:20,760 Speaker 3: machines go at the same time, it's true, that's what happened. 3342 02:32:20,879 --> 02:32:23,080 Speaker 3: The problem is one of those functioned a little better 3343 02:32:23,120 --> 02:32:23,600 Speaker 3: than the other. 3344 02:32:23,879 --> 02:32:29,039 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, like off right, Well, okay, here's the 3345 02:32:29,040 --> 02:32:30,600 Speaker 4: thing function right? 3346 02:32:30,760 --> 02:32:32,000 Speaker 6: Did it did it not function? 3347 02:32:32,080 --> 02:32:35,879 Speaker 4: Because if it's a choice, if the choices and the 3348 02:32:35,959 --> 02:32:39,320 Speaker 4: audience is who we know it is, then maybe that's 3349 02:32:39,320 --> 02:32:40,760 Speaker 4: just a choice. 3350 02:32:40,959 --> 02:32:41,600 Speaker 6: You know what I mean. 3351 02:32:41,720 --> 02:32:44,959 Speaker 4: Like, it's like I said, not everybody's gonna be doing 3352 02:32:45,000 --> 02:32:48,120 Speaker 4: the same shit coming out of this that they went in. 3353 02:32:48,400 --> 02:32:51,400 Speaker 6: I think, I don't know. I think that expectation for 3354 02:32:51,440 --> 02:32:51,840 Speaker 6: a lot of. 3355 02:32:51,760 --> 02:32:53,879 Speaker 4: People is gonna lead to a lot of heartbreak and 3356 02:32:53,920 --> 02:32:55,840 Speaker 4: a lot of anger and shit. And I'm I'm not 3357 02:32:55,879 --> 02:32:58,600 Speaker 4: gonna have it because I mean, I think the very 3358 02:32:58,600 --> 02:33:00,920 Speaker 4: first conversation me and Leslie had had uh, it was 3359 02:33:01,000 --> 02:33:03,400 Speaker 4: kind of an argument, but it was I just don't 3360 02:33:03,959 --> 02:33:07,160 Speaker 4: I just don't believe in nobody, Like if you like, 3361 02:33:07,240 --> 02:33:10,039 Speaker 4: I don't hold you to no standards, Like if I 3362 02:33:10,080 --> 02:33:12,000 Speaker 4: find out you did some crazy shit, I'm. 3363 02:33:11,840 --> 02:33:14,000 Speaker 6: Just like niggas do crazy shit. I don't know. 3364 02:33:14,280 --> 02:33:17,160 Speaker 4: If I found out you did something great, awesome, may cool. 3365 02:33:17,200 --> 02:33:19,440 Speaker 4: I appreciate you giving some money to such and such 3366 02:33:19,560 --> 02:33:21,640 Speaker 4: or damn this nigga Cappernick kneeling. 3367 02:33:22,160 --> 02:33:24,360 Speaker 6: That's dope. But I at no point whill I be 3368 02:33:24,480 --> 02:33:27,320 Speaker 6: like the next time be like this nigga, ain't Neil? 3369 02:33:27,640 --> 02:33:28,360 Speaker 2: What the fuck? 3370 02:33:28,680 --> 02:33:31,400 Speaker 6: Like I'm gonna always be like I'm back to zero again. 3371 02:33:31,520 --> 02:33:34,720 Speaker 4: This nigga kneel one time every week and Cappernick Neil, 3372 02:33:34,800 --> 02:33:35,760 Speaker 4: I was always like he. 3373 02:33:35,760 --> 02:33:38,280 Speaker 6: Did it again. This nigga is what good for him? 3374 02:33:38,720 --> 02:33:38,920 Speaker 7: You know? 3375 02:33:39,320 --> 02:33:41,400 Speaker 4: That's all That's all I got for you, dog, Like, 3376 02:33:41,480 --> 02:33:43,640 Speaker 4: I understand the game is rig so do what you 3377 02:33:43,680 --> 02:33:44,080 Speaker 4: gotta do. 3378 02:33:44,680 --> 02:33:48,440 Speaker 6: All right. Everybody gave it a hundred A good conversation. 3379 02:33:49,160 --> 02:33:51,200 Speaker 4: Now, I'm glad we had some activists on so I 3380 02:33:51,200 --> 02:33:53,640 Speaker 4: didn't have to be like in here just being like 3381 02:33:53,800 --> 02:33:56,760 Speaker 4: I hate this niggas fucking up and then just people. 3382 02:33:56,440 --> 02:33:57,879 Speaker 6: Be like, what did you do? Uh? 3383 02:33:57,920 --> 02:34:00,920 Speaker 4: One time I had like a stud a longer in 3384 02:34:01,000 --> 02:34:04,440 Speaker 4: line at dunkin Donuts to approve a point. That's the 3385 02:34:04,440 --> 02:34:11,480 Speaker 4: extent of my activism, you know. 3386 02:34:11,560 --> 02:34:13,280 Speaker 1: Okay, can I just tell you this real quick. My 3387 02:34:13,720 --> 02:34:16,959 Speaker 1: black father, when I started doing bill and working activism, 3388 02:34:17,280 --> 02:34:20,160 Speaker 1: and I was like out in the streets and you know, 3389 02:34:20,520 --> 02:34:23,320 Speaker 1: Sanders see and everything. You know, my father looked me 3390 02:34:23,360 --> 02:34:25,920 Speaker 1: dead in my eye and he said, I'm really proud 3391 02:34:25,920 --> 02:34:27,720 Speaker 1: of you and the work that you're doing a movement, 3392 02:34:28,760 --> 02:34:30,640 Speaker 1: and he said, you playing your role out there in 3393 02:34:30,640 --> 02:34:34,039 Speaker 1: the streets, and I hope you stay safe. I'm playing 3394 02:34:34,080 --> 02:34:39,440 Speaker 1: my role here because somebody's got to win the Facebook arguments. 3395 02:34:40,760 --> 02:34:42,800 Speaker 2: Black lives matter, he said, in dead face. 3396 02:34:42,840 --> 02:34:45,560 Speaker 1: He said, my role is as a Facebook activist to 3397 02:34:46,720 --> 02:34:51,039 Speaker 1: have conversations with these white people and you know, change 3398 02:34:51,080 --> 02:34:52,199 Speaker 1: herds and minds on Facebook. 3399 02:34:52,400 --> 02:34:53,080 Speaker 2: That's my role. 3400 02:34:53,240 --> 02:34:55,840 Speaker 1: We all have different roles, and I'm not saying yours 3401 02:34:55,879 --> 02:34:59,600 Speaker 1: isn't better than mine. 3402 02:35:00,080 --> 02:35:01,720 Speaker 7: Y'all working hard. We all got the same. 3403 02:35:02,560 --> 02:35:04,359 Speaker 2: Okay, first of all your trash. 3404 02:35:04,440 --> 02:35:07,160 Speaker 6: Right, Look the sad agree with him. 3405 02:35:07,160 --> 02:35:09,600 Speaker 1: Like I don't have I don't have the Black Lives 3406 02:35:09,600 --> 02:35:12,959 Speaker 1: Matter activists because he argues with white people off Facebook. 3407 02:35:13,400 --> 02:35:17,400 Speaker 4: I don't have no any any situation that leads to 3408 02:35:17,440 --> 02:35:19,920 Speaker 4: somebody else putting hands on you. 3409 02:35:19,920 --> 02:35:21,560 Speaker 6: You you win, I don't. 3410 02:35:21,840 --> 02:35:24,000 Speaker 4: I'm not trying to trump your active You get to 3411 02:35:24,040 --> 02:35:25,520 Speaker 4: do what you want, you know. 3412 02:35:25,640 --> 02:35:26,680 Speaker 6: I see that too outdoor. 3413 02:35:26,720 --> 02:35:30,200 Speaker 4: If people like, oh man, what they should have said, nigga, 3414 02:35:30,320 --> 02:35:32,640 Speaker 4: go out there and do it, then ain't no permits. 3415 02:35:32,760 --> 02:35:35,320 Speaker 5: Go just go on out there and be like protest. 3416 02:35:35,520 --> 02:35:37,959 Speaker 6: I tell you what, I'll slap a cop in his face. 3417 02:35:38,200 --> 02:35:39,480 Speaker 6: Good luck. Okay. 3418 02:35:39,520 --> 02:35:41,520 Speaker 4: I hope it works out for you too, because my 3419 02:35:41,640 --> 02:35:44,440 Speaker 4: ass will be here in the ac like, hey man, 3420 02:35:45,040 --> 02:35:46,360 Speaker 4: are we raising bail money? 3421 02:35:46,440 --> 02:35:49,320 Speaker 6: Like what is it? Gofund me or something like is 3422 02:35:49,360 --> 02:35:52,920 Speaker 6: there a petition? I can? I can fat forward to 3423 02:35:52,959 --> 02:35:54,080 Speaker 6: some people because I'm. 3424 02:35:53,959 --> 02:35:59,440 Speaker 9: That type of person like like, my activism is more 3425 02:35:59,440 --> 02:36:04,040 Speaker 9: on that cutes that makes sense. I will money voice 3426 02:36:04,040 --> 02:36:07,200 Speaker 9: and stuff like that. I know, my black ass, I'm 3427 02:36:07,320 --> 02:36:10,440 Speaker 9: to putty to get beat up. You ain't pitching on me, 3428 02:36:10,640 --> 02:36:12,240 Speaker 9: You ain't knocking to be upside and here. 3429 02:36:13,200 --> 02:36:14,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, what you're trying to say, you try to say 3430 02:36:14,480 --> 02:36:17,879 Speaker 4: how people getting beat up ain't pretty? Care is that 3431 02:36:17,879 --> 02:36:19,720 Speaker 4: what you're trying to say? They ugly out there, that's 3432 02:36:19,720 --> 02:36:24,119 Speaker 4: why they getting beat up. No, I'm right me personally 3433 02:36:24,640 --> 02:36:27,720 Speaker 4: that my skin regiment alone, is this right? 3434 02:36:27,840 --> 02:36:30,760 Speaker 9: Come on now, I'll work too hard putting that mud 3435 02:36:30,879 --> 02:36:33,880 Speaker 9: mask on my face to keep down. 3436 02:36:34,000 --> 02:36:37,720 Speaker 4: Okay, cad okay, caddy fair, you're gonna come put your 3437 02:36:37,760 --> 02:36:38,879 Speaker 4: hand on me here for. 3438 02:36:38,959 --> 02:36:41,480 Speaker 5: The Jamaican trips. Let's be here. 3439 02:36:42,800 --> 02:36:44,600 Speaker 7: Y'all know why I can. Y'all know why I shoulder. 3440 02:36:45,320 --> 02:36:47,560 Speaker 4: She has a hand on my knee, and she's talking 3441 02:36:47,600 --> 02:36:51,400 Speaker 4: about being chanted, being chanted women that have taught her 3442 02:36:51,920 --> 02:36:53,000 Speaker 4: so many things. 3443 02:36:53,560 --> 02:36:54,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, uh yeah. 3444 02:36:54,879 --> 02:36:59,080 Speaker 4: Anyway, let's move on before Karen digs a deeper hole. 3445 02:36:59,200 --> 02:37:01,560 Speaker 6: Let's move on on to guest the race. 3446 02:37:01,640 --> 02:37:03,800 Speaker 4: All right, let's let's play some guest The Rays of 3447 02:37:03,879 --> 02:37:06,120 Speaker 4: these activistsies upstanding business women. 3448 02:37:06,959 --> 02:37:09,720 Speaker 6: I see now that it is time for some guest. 3449 02:37:09,720 --> 02:37:13,400 Speaker 4: The race last right is guest the race time. 3450 02:37:15,120 --> 02:37:17,360 Speaker 6: Now that is time for some guest. 3451 02:37:17,360 --> 02:37:20,200 Speaker 5: The race. Last right is guest. 3452 02:37:20,200 --> 02:37:24,760 Speaker 6: The race time, last right. It's time for guest. 3453 02:37:25,040 --> 02:37:27,320 Speaker 4: The race the number one game shall go to across 3454 02:37:27,360 --> 02:37:29,000 Speaker 4: all the podcasts land, we read the play news ark, 3455 02:37:29,000 --> 02:37:30,800 Speaker 4: it'sm all over the go, and we asked, our contest 3456 02:37:30,920 --> 02:37:33,400 Speaker 4: is today, Leslie and Marissa from the safety pan box 3457 02:37:33,640 --> 02:37:37,560 Speaker 4: to guests the race, and the chat room plays along 3458 02:37:37,600 --> 02:37:40,360 Speaker 4: and care plays a long Now our races all right, 3459 02:37:41,160 --> 02:37:42,840 Speaker 4: get your racism engine started? 3460 02:37:44,080 --> 02:37:44,200 Speaker 3: Uh. 3461 02:37:44,680 --> 02:37:50,480 Speaker 4: Five female family members are arrested after a horrifive video 3462 02:37:50,600 --> 02:37:54,160 Speaker 4: murgers of them beating up three women in a vicious 3463 02:37:54,280 --> 02:37:55,640 Speaker 4: waffle house brawl. 3464 02:37:56,320 --> 02:37:59,000 Speaker 7: Mm hmm, what ain't smothered covered and jump? 3465 02:38:03,160 --> 02:38:06,520 Speaker 4: The women have all been charged with this early conduct 3466 02:38:06,520 --> 02:38:08,440 Speaker 4: at the cause and the fight inside the waffle house 3467 02:38:08,720 --> 02:38:12,240 Speaker 4: in Lancaster, Pennsylvania at about two forty five a m. 3468 02:38:13,560 --> 02:38:21,480 Speaker 4: Police arrested Latonia D. Shivers thirty one, Latonia D. Shivers, Yeah, 3469 02:38:22,240 --> 02:38:28,440 Speaker 4: Deborah E. Shivers fifty six, Woo Mercedes D. Shivers twenty five, 3470 02:38:29,800 --> 02:38:34,680 Speaker 4: titanisia E. Shivers thirty seven family and Tonysha Kse Shivers 3471 02:38:34,680 --> 02:38:35,160 Speaker 4: thirty seven. 3472 02:38:35,160 --> 02:38:38,400 Speaker 6: They must be the twins. Authority say. 3473 02:38:38,400 --> 02:38:41,520 Speaker 4: The five women were film punching, pulling hair, and grappling 3474 02:38:41,879 --> 02:38:45,280 Speaker 4: with three other unidentified females. The visious fight broke out 3475 02:38:45,640 --> 02:38:47,960 Speaker 4: in the corner of the Waffe House restaurant as staff 3476 02:38:47,959 --> 02:38:50,520 Speaker 4: took cover behind the counter. It's three am in the 3477 02:38:50,560 --> 02:38:53,240 Speaker 4: waffle house. Come on a fight, Come with the hash browns. 3478 02:38:53,440 --> 02:38:55,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, this staffe gonna take over somebody. 3479 02:38:55,360 --> 02:38:57,720 Speaker 9: Food gonna get burned because as soon as they break 3480 02:38:57,760 --> 02:38:59,720 Speaker 9: it up, they're gonna flip the legs over and Tonio 3481 02:38:59,760 --> 02:39:01,120 Speaker 9: pink up. 3482 02:39:01,440 --> 02:39:05,000 Speaker 4: Would you like that waffle with assault and battery? Because 3483 02:39:05,959 --> 02:39:08,400 Speaker 4: it comes with it? On the house, on the house, 3484 02:39:08,680 --> 02:39:11,960 Speaker 4: the vicious fight, I mean. The cell phone footage shows 3485 02:39:12,000 --> 02:39:15,199 Speaker 4: the women violently punching each other before some started throwing 3486 02:39:15,280 --> 02:39:18,959 Speaker 4: utensils and other items from the tables. A woman can 3487 02:39:19,000 --> 02:39:22,000 Speaker 4: be heard screaming it's time to go repeatedly as the 3488 02:39:22,080 --> 02:39:27,000 Speaker 4: other women braw. It's go time, police said. An unidentified 3489 02:39:27,000 --> 02:39:30,360 Speaker 4: person called now, I want to report the fight. The 3490 02:39:30,400 --> 02:39:32,080 Speaker 4: footage snitching right. 3491 02:39:32,480 --> 02:39:35,039 Speaker 6: I wonder who want guess the race of that person. 3492 02:39:37,959 --> 02:39:40,640 Speaker 7: Me disappointed because they ruined my breakfast. All I came 3493 02:39:40,840 --> 02:39:43,280 Speaker 7: was for the hash Browns. I didn't I didn't come 3494 02:39:43,360 --> 02:39:43,600 Speaker 7: for this. 3495 02:39:43,840 --> 02:39:45,480 Speaker 6: Karen Wood be snitching, I. 3496 02:39:45,640 --> 02:39:47,279 Speaker 7: Honted, I'm gonna sing like a pigeon. 3497 02:39:48,200 --> 02:39:51,200 Speaker 6: God, I don't think that's take your hand off my knee. 3498 02:39:51,240 --> 02:39:55,920 Speaker 4: Okay, you're just you were just making it worse. Uh, 3499 02:39:56,120 --> 02:39:58,440 Speaker 4: police said the unidentified person called now I want to 3500 02:39:58,440 --> 02:40:01,039 Speaker 4: report the fight. The footage was uploaded the Facebook and 3501 02:40:01,080 --> 02:40:03,200 Speaker 4: had already been viewed more than one hundred and six 3502 02:40:03,240 --> 02:40:05,040 Speaker 4: thousand times in less than twenty four hours. 3503 02:40:05,080 --> 02:40:11,199 Speaker 6: Guess the race, Karen black, Karen's going black? Surprising? Oh 3504 02:40:11,320 --> 02:40:12,320 Speaker 6: what about you, Leslie? 3505 02:40:13,680 --> 02:40:16,360 Speaker 3: Obviously these are Katy Perry's empowered angels? 3506 02:40:17,560 --> 02:40:24,360 Speaker 4: Oh lord, Marissa, Oh god, Marissa, what about you? 3507 02:40:25,800 --> 02:40:29,879 Speaker 1: I'm going with accepted Bill Mayri's apology black? 3508 02:40:32,120 --> 02:40:35,560 Speaker 4: Oh god, all right, let's take the chat room and 3509 02:40:35,720 --> 02:40:41,480 Speaker 4: see what these guys got. Let's see lot negress is black, 3510 02:40:42,080 --> 02:40:46,960 Speaker 4: empowered angels black, not a daddy to be found black. 3511 02:40:47,720 --> 02:40:50,560 Speaker 6: That is so bad. That actually says more about the men, though. 3512 02:40:52,879 --> 02:40:55,880 Speaker 4: The next one, now Joe's fatally says they came in 3513 02:40:56,080 --> 02:41:01,680 Speaker 4: with popeyes to go with them waffles, Shiver's family values 3514 02:41:01,800 --> 02:41:06,160 Speaker 4: by black. Uh, come on, buddy, I mean black as 3515 02:41:06,160 --> 02:41:11,240 Speaker 4: fuck black. They also didn't tell oh, fine, why you 3516 02:41:11,280 --> 02:41:12,160 Speaker 4: don't even go here? 3517 02:41:14,360 --> 02:41:15,600 Speaker 6: I think that's my first time. 3518 02:41:15,520 --> 02:41:17,360 Speaker 4: Seeing you in the chat with the with the heat 3519 02:41:17,959 --> 02:41:22,240 Speaker 4: of black Mama getting in on the action. Yeah, shiver 3520 02:41:22,440 --> 02:41:28,200 Speaker 4: me timbers black, WAFA house visitor, black Jigaboos, blacker than 3521 02:41:28,240 --> 02:41:31,000 Speaker 4: the women Katy Perry Mox in her videos black. 3522 02:41:31,160 --> 02:41:34,520 Speaker 6: Oh it hurts because it's true and they are they're 3523 02:41:35,040 --> 02:41:36,520 Speaker 6: they're all black. You guys are right. 3524 02:41:41,879 --> 02:41:43,360 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna show the picture because we're doing the 3525 02:41:43,360 --> 02:41:46,480 Speaker 4: four screen guys, but they black, and plus the pictures 3526 02:41:46,520 --> 02:41:53,960 Speaker 4: just of them, they. 3527 02:41:51,520 --> 02:41:52,440 Speaker 6: Both thirty seven. 3528 02:41:53,120 --> 02:41:53,280 Speaker 5: Uh. 3529 02:41:53,760 --> 02:41:56,960 Speaker 4: I like that that the family that throws them hands together, 3530 02:41:57,360 --> 02:41:58,120 Speaker 4: bands together. 3531 02:41:58,320 --> 02:42:00,400 Speaker 6: Okay? Uh, the like. 3532 02:42:00,400 --> 02:42:04,760 Speaker 4: You're taking all us to jail, right, that's that when 3533 02:42:04,800 --> 02:42:06,800 Speaker 4: you don't know you're about to be fighting five people, 3534 02:42:07,400 --> 02:42:09,440 Speaker 4: that that is a surprise for your ass at three 3535 02:42:09,440 --> 02:42:09,920 Speaker 4: in the morning. 3536 02:42:10,040 --> 02:42:11,600 Speaker 7: Come on, I'm not built for that fight. 3537 02:42:12,840 --> 02:42:14,520 Speaker 6: All right, Let's see what else we got here. 3538 02:42:15,000 --> 02:42:22,040 Speaker 4: Here's one. What's happened in Florida? A Florida woman, Uh right, 3539 02:42:27,840 --> 02:42:33,200 Speaker 4: a Florida woman was busted after abuti call gone bad. 3540 02:42:34,600 --> 02:42:36,640 Speaker 4: A Florida woman on a booty car showed up at 3541 02:42:36,640 --> 02:42:40,360 Speaker 4: her ex boyfriend's home early yesterday morning, upon discovering another 3542 02:42:40,400 --> 02:42:43,000 Speaker 4: woman in his bed, began to pummel a female victim 3543 02:42:43,040 --> 02:42:47,440 Speaker 4: in the head, according to police. Cops say that Christina 3544 02:42:47,560 --> 02:42:52,000 Speaker 4: Joy Rivera, twenty seven, had been sending her former boat 3545 02:42:52,080 --> 02:42:55,199 Speaker 4: text messages about wanting to come over and have sex. 3546 02:42:56,080 --> 02:43:00,760 Speaker 4: Rivera's ex, however, did not acknowledge the text messages. Now 3547 02:43:00,840 --> 02:43:03,160 Speaker 4: you when the red received ain't even how you just 3548 02:43:03,160 --> 02:43:08,640 Speaker 4: gonna go down there? Rivera uh proceeded to the man 3549 02:43:08,800 --> 02:43:14,080 Speaker 4: Saint Petersburg residence at five am at something. Somehow forced 3550 02:43:14,080 --> 02:43:16,080 Speaker 4: her way into the home via the closed front door 3551 02:43:16,080 --> 02:43:18,200 Speaker 4: at the time, so he broke in. 3552 02:43:19,400 --> 02:43:20,920 Speaker 2: They didn't lock their doors. 3553 02:43:21,680 --> 02:43:26,320 Speaker 4: Uh. Florida at Saint Petersburgh Okay five am okay? 3554 02:43:26,800 --> 02:43:27,560 Speaker 6: Ronald Cox. 3555 02:43:28,280 --> 02:43:33,320 Speaker 4: Oh, that's unfortunate, Ronald Cox see ko oh is it 3556 02:43:33,360 --> 02:43:35,800 Speaker 4: Coke like Coke? Brothers okay? Kao c h Is that 3557 02:43:35,920 --> 02:43:41,360 Speaker 4: pous Coke brother like Coke? Ronald Koch cotch okay. Ronald 3558 02:43:41,480 --> 02:43:44,920 Speaker 4: Koch was laying in bed with his girlfriend, Julie Thomas. 3559 02:43:44,920 --> 02:43:47,280 Speaker 6: Oh, nigga, so you came down there. 3560 02:43:47,480 --> 02:43:49,440 Speaker 4: He got a It's not just that he ain't answer 3561 02:43:49,480 --> 02:43:52,840 Speaker 4: your text. He got a whole other girlfriend and you 3562 02:43:52,920 --> 02:43:56,720 Speaker 4: came down his house, right, y'all, don't go to police. 3563 02:43:56,760 --> 02:43:59,080 Speaker 4: The last that Rivera, without saying a word, walked into 3564 02:43:59,080 --> 02:44:01,840 Speaker 4: the bedroom began with repeatedly punching Thomas in the face. Thomas, 3565 02:44:01,840 --> 02:44:04,720 Speaker 4: the criminal complaint states, was left bloody and with minor 3566 02:44:04,800 --> 02:44:06,720 Speaker 4: injuries to the face as a result of the attack. 3567 02:44:07,240 --> 02:44:10,080 Speaker 4: During a police interview, Rivera denied assaulting Thomas and claim 3568 02:44:10,160 --> 02:44:11,560 Speaker 4: and she was invited. 3569 02:44:11,160 --> 02:44:12,920 Speaker 6: Over to the residents. 3570 02:44:13,000 --> 02:44:16,480 Speaker 4: Rivera a Clearwater resident and mother too. Yeah, that's what 3571 02:44:16,520 --> 02:44:19,760 Speaker 4: she claimed. A clear Weather resident and mother too. Was 3572 02:44:19,840 --> 02:44:22,160 Speaker 4: arrested at six am on a felony charge of burglary 3573 02:44:22,200 --> 02:44:25,760 Speaker 4: and assault battery for what she pleaded not guilty. She's 3574 02:44:25,800 --> 02:44:28,560 Speaker 4: locked up in advance with June thirteenth bond hearing. She 3575 02:44:28,720 --> 02:44:32,640 Speaker 4: has been ordered to have no contact with Kotch or Thomas. 3576 02:44:33,000 --> 02:44:36,640 Speaker 4: Her rap sheet includes prior convintions for marijuana possession, drunk driving, 3577 02:44:36,720 --> 02:44:40,959 Speaker 4: possession of drug perpnelia, public urination, theft, and violation approbation 3578 02:44:41,120 --> 02:44:45,480 Speaker 4: Karen Guess the race of Christina Joy Rivera. 3579 02:44:45,879 --> 02:44:48,039 Speaker 7: Pin in public white pin. 3580 02:44:47,920 --> 02:44:51,039 Speaker 6: In public white? All right, what about you, Leslie. 3581 02:44:53,520 --> 02:44:58,039 Speaker 5: I'm going to say white passing Latina? 3582 02:44:58,440 --> 02:44:58,640 Speaker 9: Mmm? 3583 02:44:59,400 --> 02:45:02,520 Speaker 6: What about you Mersa. 3584 02:45:02,640 --> 02:45:03,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with Leslie. 3585 02:45:03,879 --> 02:45:06,520 Speaker 1: I was gonna I was gonna say only Latino wented 3586 02:45:07,400 --> 02:45:08,800 Speaker 1: when it's useful white. 3587 02:45:09,200 --> 02:45:13,120 Speaker 4: Oh all right, So Karen, you went what what'd you go? 3588 02:45:13,600 --> 02:45:13,920 Speaker 6: Okay? 3589 02:45:13,959 --> 02:45:16,680 Speaker 4: They you went white and they went Latina passing for white. 3590 02:45:16,680 --> 02:45:18,800 Speaker 4: All right, let's take the chat room and see what 3591 02:45:19,600 --> 02:45:22,160 Speaker 4: these guys got to say with their racist asses. 3592 02:45:23,720 --> 02:45:26,760 Speaker 6: How do I gotta scroll up? Did you already ask? 3593 02:45:26,879 --> 02:45:27,080 Speaker 5: Yes? 3594 02:45:27,440 --> 02:45:27,720 Speaker 6: Okay? 3595 02:45:27,760 --> 02:45:27,920 Speaker 1: Cool? 3596 02:45:28,000 --> 02:45:29,600 Speaker 6: Let me scroll up a bit. Sorry. 3597 02:45:29,600 --> 02:45:37,240 Speaker 4: Guys sometimes gets a little buggy, just like, uh. 3598 02:45:35,360 --> 02:45:37,000 Speaker 6: Where is it? Oh? Here there? 3599 02:45:37,879 --> 02:45:41,600 Speaker 4: They said, booty called not uncooked cutlets called fiery Latina. 3600 02:45:42,160 --> 02:45:46,960 Speaker 4: Oh lord, Miley Syrus is shaking in her underwear. 3601 02:45:47,000 --> 02:45:49,800 Speaker 6: Guys, what you saying? Stuff like just rolling in a grave? 3602 02:45:50,520 --> 02:45:50,680 Speaker 1: Uh? 3603 02:45:51,200 --> 02:45:54,640 Speaker 4: Somebody can't come get somebody come get. 3604 02:45:54,440 --> 02:45:56,640 Speaker 6: Ilian Gonzalez's tea Latina. 3605 02:45:58,040 --> 02:46:00,360 Speaker 4: It's like he got hit with a bag or in 3606 02:46:00,400 --> 02:46:01,840 Speaker 4: a bottle of wind decks Latina. 3607 02:46:01,959 --> 02:46:02,320 Speaker 6: Damn. 3608 02:46:02,760 --> 02:46:05,320 Speaker 4: She used that water from her back to sneaking to 3609 02:46:05,400 --> 02:46:10,400 Speaker 4: the door Latino using express smuggler to get to her 3610 02:46:10,520 --> 02:46:11,360 Speaker 4: boyfriend's house. 3611 02:46:11,440 --> 02:46:13,720 Speaker 6: Latina alien's Cuban cousin. 3612 02:46:13,800 --> 02:46:18,600 Speaker 4: Now Trump gonna to port her Latina Hispanic side note. 3613 02:46:18,680 --> 02:46:19,440 Speaker 6: She was on the. 3614 02:46:19,440 --> 02:46:23,400 Speaker 4: Phone with one of the Shivers sisters asking for backup. 3615 02:46:24,080 --> 02:46:24,480 Speaker 6: A girl. 3616 02:46:24,680 --> 02:46:27,360 Speaker 4: We in some at at waffle house. Let me call 3617 02:46:27,400 --> 02:46:30,879 Speaker 4: you back. Got past the locked door like it was 3618 02:46:30,920 --> 02:46:38,360 Speaker 4: the Mexican border. Come on, stay woke. Latina's creeping h 3619 02:46:40,160 --> 02:46:44,360 Speaker 4: knows how to wrap a mean burrito. Latina, fake ass 3620 02:46:44,400 --> 02:46:47,920 Speaker 4: and chanting angel white. She got her mother's middle name 3621 02:46:48,080 --> 02:46:50,920 Speaker 4: and her last name, but she passing for white Latina. 3622 02:46:51,600 --> 02:46:55,959 Speaker 4: The correct answer is and Leslie and Marissa, you both 3623 02:46:55,959 --> 02:46:59,279 Speaker 4: got a right, she not just Latina white passing Latina. 3624 02:46:59,320 --> 02:47:02,199 Speaker 6: You guys out the park, let me give your claps. 3625 02:47:08,640 --> 02:47:11,039 Speaker 1: You know it's white people who try to claim a 3626 02:47:11,080 --> 02:47:12,640 Speaker 1: POC card when it's. 3627 02:47:14,680 --> 02:47:15,520 Speaker 5: I'll tell you one thing. 3628 02:47:15,600 --> 02:47:17,760 Speaker 3: If I was in the group, I had the most 3629 02:47:17,840 --> 02:47:20,000 Speaker 3: vile thing to write, but I can't say it on 3630 02:47:20,040 --> 02:47:21,640 Speaker 3: the air, So just saying. 3631 02:47:21,520 --> 02:47:23,959 Speaker 4: Smart, that's that's a smart move. Now, you could have 3632 02:47:24,040 --> 02:47:26,039 Speaker 4: just typed it in the chat and I would have 3633 02:47:26,040 --> 02:47:26,360 Speaker 4: read it. 3634 02:47:26,400 --> 02:47:29,080 Speaker 3: But uh yeah, but probably would have said it was 3635 02:47:29,080 --> 02:47:30,600 Speaker 3: me sel Yeah, that's true. 3636 02:47:30,720 --> 02:47:32,720 Speaker 6: I would have. I probably would have. Yeah, that's a 3637 02:47:32,760 --> 02:47:33,160 Speaker 6: good point. 3638 02:47:33,160 --> 02:47:36,880 Speaker 4: You would have to be like, don't say who's from 3639 02:47:36,920 --> 02:47:43,640 Speaker 4: all right? Uh Karen forever Karen went with just regular white. 3640 02:47:48,800 --> 02:47:50,200 Speaker 6: Ain't no regular white Rivera. 3641 02:47:50,959 --> 02:47:52,800 Speaker 7: She got them booby smashed to get in the picture. 3642 02:47:52,840 --> 02:47:55,040 Speaker 4: I would say, my favorite thing about this is that 3643 02:47:55,080 --> 02:47:58,560 Speaker 4: the picture they foot wasn't her mugshot but her Facebook picture. 3644 02:47:59,080 --> 02:48:02,600 Speaker 4: And then lower lower in the article is a mugshot. Like, 3645 02:48:02,680 --> 02:48:05,680 Speaker 4: so the mugshots in there, but it's like even the 3646 02:48:05,720 --> 02:48:06,760 Speaker 4: smoking gun was like you. 3647 02:48:06,720 --> 02:48:08,240 Speaker 6: Guys, you gotta see these titties. 3648 02:48:08,280 --> 02:48:12,520 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, Like I know journalistic integrity aside, Guys, you're 3649 02:48:12,520 --> 02:48:14,200 Speaker 4: gonna want to see this from first. 3650 02:48:13,840 --> 02:48:15,560 Speaker 7: You got to look up here first. 3651 02:48:15,720 --> 02:48:18,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, facebooks changing everything. Man, you do a crime. 3652 02:48:18,280 --> 02:48:20,160 Speaker 4: Now they're gonna go to your Facebook page put that 3653 02:48:20,200 --> 02:48:21,039 Speaker 4: ship out. 3654 02:48:21,280 --> 02:48:22,800 Speaker 6: I don't know which pick they're gonna use for me. 3655 02:48:23,360 --> 02:48:24,320 Speaker 2: I hope they use mine. 3656 02:48:24,360 --> 02:48:26,760 Speaker 1: Where I have my ghetto bridsen and I've got the 3657 02:48:26,800 --> 02:48:29,160 Speaker 1: shirtles sipping on white tears and I'm drinking a glass 3658 02:48:29,160 --> 02:48:29,440 Speaker 1: of water. 3659 02:48:29,720 --> 02:48:32,959 Speaker 2: That's the one I hope. I kind of by so 3660 02:48:33,080 --> 02:48:34,680 Speaker 2: many in the alt right, it's great. 3661 02:48:35,600 --> 02:48:38,000 Speaker 4: I kind of want them to use my picture when 3662 02:48:38,040 --> 02:48:42,360 Speaker 4: I'm humping that plant outside of a cowfish, but I 3663 02:48:42,400 --> 02:48:43,200 Speaker 4: doubt they'll do it. 3664 02:48:43,360 --> 02:48:44,600 Speaker 7: I got they used that one. 3665 02:48:44,879 --> 02:48:46,720 Speaker 6: Apparently, in addition to. 3666 02:48:48,440 --> 02:48:55,439 Speaker 4: Whatever crime it was, he also likes the fuck trees. Yeah, 3667 02:48:55,879 --> 02:48:59,360 Speaker 4: if you see this man, cover your ferns. 3668 02:49:00,160 --> 02:49:01,040 Speaker 6: Be on the lookout. 3669 02:49:02,200 --> 02:49:05,640 Speaker 4: All right, let's get to the bonus round. Guys, where 3670 02:49:05,760 --> 02:49:06,560 Speaker 4: is my bonus round? 3671 02:49:06,680 --> 02:49:07,000 Speaker 2: Music? 3672 02:49:07,720 --> 02:49:18,879 Speaker 4: Here you go, Double up on saying the race, double 3673 02:49:19,040 --> 02:49:23,560 Speaker 4: up saying the race. That's right, Double the points, double 3674 02:49:23,560 --> 02:49:25,200 Speaker 4: the rates for the bonus round to guess the race. 3675 02:49:25,280 --> 02:49:28,920 Speaker 4: So far, Leslie and Marissa, I think they're two for 3676 02:49:29,000 --> 02:49:32,160 Speaker 4: two and Karen's one and one, so we'll see how 3677 02:49:32,160 --> 02:49:35,320 Speaker 4: they end up. Karen had to go out on the 3678 02:49:35,360 --> 02:49:40,080 Speaker 4: limb with that white you were You were close though, 3679 02:49:40,360 --> 02:49:42,520 Speaker 4: you know a lot of people would try to judge 3680 02:49:42,520 --> 02:49:45,879 Speaker 4: you for that, but I gotta say, you're actually pretty close. 3681 02:49:46,840 --> 02:49:48,879 Speaker 6: Let me go find an old one. Let me see 3682 02:49:49,320 --> 02:49:58,440 Speaker 6: something different. What No, not that one? Let's do Oh, 3683 02:49:58,480 --> 02:50:01,240 Speaker 6: here's one. It's got some some intrigue type shit. 3684 02:50:02,360 --> 02:50:07,120 Speaker 4: Apparently a drug debt was a motive and a kidnapping 3685 02:50:07,160 --> 02:50:12,000 Speaker 4: plot involving Saint Louis entrepreneur fed say, a. 3686 02:50:11,920 --> 02:50:16,000 Speaker 6: Drug debt kind of Miami vice shit. Is going on 3687 02:50:16,080 --> 02:50:16,800 Speaker 6: in Saint Louis. 3688 02:50:16,840 --> 02:50:25,440 Speaker 4: Man maplewood Man was kidnapped and beaten in November because 3689 02:50:25,480 --> 02:50:27,720 Speaker 4: of a drug debt to a Saint Louis entrepreneur and 3690 02:50:27,760 --> 02:50:32,439 Speaker 4: his associates, according to court testimony Monday, uh The testimony 3691 02:50:32,480 --> 02:50:34,879 Speaker 4: also revealed for the first time that the plotters allegedly 3692 02:50:34,879 --> 02:50:38,000 Speaker 4: discussed killing the victim by chopping him up or wrapping 3693 02:50:38,040 --> 02:50:40,400 Speaker 4: him in plastic and shooting him. 3694 02:50:40,800 --> 02:50:41,480 Speaker 5: Oh okay. 3695 02:50:42,160 --> 02:50:47,120 Speaker 4: Five people, including entrepreneur Todd Beckman, where I indicted last 3696 02:50:47,120 --> 02:50:49,360 Speaker 4: month on kidnapping and other charges in the case. They 3697 02:50:49,360 --> 02:50:52,880 Speaker 4: have all pled pleaded not guilty. Until recently, Beckman was 3698 02:50:52,920 --> 02:50:56,680 Speaker 4: president and chief executive of bam Brands, which on Tanco 3699 02:50:57,120 --> 02:51:02,680 Speaker 4: Exit exists, Fitness Massage look an Age management company, Life exists, 3700 02:51:04,400 --> 02:51:07,039 Speaker 4: and the exes in there are not Ex's all the 3701 02:51:07,080 --> 02:51:12,880 Speaker 4: big capital X. Monday's court testimony from Brent Nanny, a 3702 02:51:13,040 --> 02:51:16,520 Speaker 4: task force officer from the DA, came during the hearing 3703 02:51:16,720 --> 02:51:19,240 Speaker 4: in the US District Court in Saint Louis, called by 3704 02:51:19,680 --> 02:51:23,360 Speaker 4: Beckman co defendant Carrie Rose of Fenton, who was seeking 3705 02:51:23,360 --> 02:51:24,279 Speaker 4: to be released. 3706 02:51:23,920 --> 02:51:25,120 Speaker 6: On bond before the trial. 3707 02:51:25,240 --> 02:51:28,800 Speaker 4: Nanny's testimony was based on an investigation and statements made 3708 02:51:28,800 --> 02:51:31,880 Speaker 4: by Beckman and a code defendant Nanny's discussed elements of 3709 02:51:31,920 --> 02:51:34,879 Speaker 4: the alleged plot that emerged in charging documents in early December, 3710 02:51:34,879 --> 02:51:38,840 Speaker 4: but added details. The documents say that brothers Blake and 3711 02:51:38,879 --> 02:51:42,879 Speaker 4: Caleb Laubinger, both a Pacific, attacked the victim in his 3712 02:51:42,920 --> 02:51:46,640 Speaker 4: home and subdued them. Blake Lahbinger called Beckman and told 3713 02:51:46,720 --> 02:51:50,080 Speaker 4: him that they had the victim, and Beckman responded that they. 3714 02:51:49,959 --> 02:51:51,840 Speaker 6: Should take them to the spot. 3715 02:51:52,080 --> 02:51:57,039 Speaker 4: Meanwhile, Blake Lawminger's house and Pacific Nanny Oh, meaning his. 3716 02:51:57,040 --> 02:51:58,279 Speaker 6: House in Pacific, Okay. 3717 02:51:58,600 --> 02:52:00,920 Speaker 4: As the victim was being he ain't taking the Pacific 3718 02:52:01,000 --> 02:52:02,840 Speaker 4: in the backseat of a pickup, he became afraid for 3719 02:52:02,879 --> 02:52:05,480 Speaker 4: his life. He hopped into the front seat, attacked the driver, 3720 02:52:05,760 --> 02:52:08,160 Speaker 4: kicked the stairwheel, caused the truck to spin out but 3721 02:52:08,240 --> 02:52:11,280 Speaker 4: not crashed. Once at Blake Longigan's home in Pacific, the 3722 02:52:11,360 --> 02:52:13,480 Speaker 4: victim was zip tied and duct taped to a pole 3723 02:52:13,520 --> 02:52:16,000 Speaker 4: in the basement there, beaten and kicked and shocked with 3724 02:52:16,040 --> 02:52:16,520 Speaker 4: a taser. 3725 02:52:17,200 --> 02:52:20,959 Speaker 6: The next day, damn neck, Jesus, this is a plot. 3726 02:52:21,520 --> 02:52:23,680 Speaker 4: The next day he was taken to a shipping container 3727 02:52:23,680 --> 02:52:27,400 Speaker 4: on Beckman's property and fenting shipping container. This is some 3728 02:52:27,520 --> 02:52:31,760 Speaker 4: Miami right shit who just has a shimming container on 3729 02:52:31,800 --> 02:52:36,800 Speaker 4: their property and held for another night. Nanny said that 3730 02:52:36,879 --> 02:52:39,800 Speaker 4: Rose helped his set up cables that held the victim 3731 02:52:39,840 --> 02:52:40,879 Speaker 4: in the shipping container. 3732 02:52:41,440 --> 02:52:43,520 Speaker 6: Yo, they really thought they had lim Neeson dogg. 3733 02:52:45,280 --> 02:52:48,200 Speaker 4: Nanny testified that Rose suggested chopping up the victim or 3734 02:52:48,200 --> 02:52:49,720 Speaker 4: wrapping him in plastic and shooting him. 3735 02:52:49,879 --> 02:52:52,359 Speaker 6: Beckman actually bought the plastic and a heat gun. 3736 02:52:52,800 --> 02:52:55,280 Speaker 4: Nanny said the kidnappers also sought to take the victim's 3737 02:52:55,320 --> 02:52:56,879 Speaker 4: car as a way to reduce some of the debt. 3738 02:52:56,959 --> 02:52:57,440 Speaker 6: He said. 3739 02:52:57,680 --> 02:53:00,560 Speaker 4: Finally, after the kidnappers were paid twenty seven thousand dollars 3740 02:53:00,600 --> 02:53:03,119 Speaker 4: by relatives, the man was taken to Saint Louis ted 3741 02:53:03,240 --> 02:53:07,680 Speaker 4: Coo Van to Van to Grave Voice Bluffs shopping center 3742 02:53:07,720 --> 02:53:08,600 Speaker 4: area and released. 3743 02:53:09,200 --> 02:53:11,080 Speaker 6: Nanny said that the motive was drug money. 3744 02:53:11,120 --> 02:53:13,440 Speaker 4: The victim owed money to one of the lawbigers who 3745 02:53:13,520 --> 02:53:17,400 Speaker 4: got marijuana from Beckman. Nanny also said that the Lobbinger 3746 02:53:17,480 --> 02:53:20,920 Speaker 4: brothers had attacked the victim in a prior incident seeking 3747 02:53:20,920 --> 02:53:24,600 Speaker 4: the money. During the hearing, Rose lawyer Paul dead Grosser 3748 02:53:25,000 --> 02:53:28,600 Speaker 4: asked the US Magissy Judge Noel Collins to release Rose 3749 02:53:28,640 --> 02:53:31,600 Speaker 4: on bond before a trial did. Grocer said, Rose denies 3750 02:53:31,640 --> 02:53:34,160 Speaker 4: the charges and believes the accusations. 3751 02:53:33,600 --> 02:53:39,040 Speaker 6: Are not accurate. Oh what could the fucking inaccuracy be. 3752 02:53:40,160 --> 02:53:42,480 Speaker 4: Hey, man, they tied me up, beat me, taste me, 3753 02:53:42,520 --> 02:53:44,959 Speaker 4: put me in a ship and container. They fucking extorted twenty 3754 02:53:45,000 --> 02:53:49,000 Speaker 4: seven thousand dollars from my family, yohn, that's not entirely accurate. 3755 02:53:49,240 --> 02:53:50,920 Speaker 4: And uh, I'm gonna think you. I think you need 3756 02:53:50,959 --> 02:53:52,960 Speaker 4: to let my client go on his own cognisance. 3757 02:53:53,000 --> 02:53:54,959 Speaker 2: So the actually was the bloom. 3758 02:53:56,200 --> 02:54:00,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was more like twenty six styles. I was 3759 02:54:00,200 --> 02:54:04,560 Speaker 4: in nine hundred and seventy five dollars. So yeah, so 3760 02:54:04,680 --> 02:54:09,720 Speaker 4: I think the defense the prosecution is rounding up you, honor. 3761 02:54:09,760 --> 02:54:11,000 Speaker 6: I think you need to let my man go. 3762 02:54:13,720 --> 02:54:13,920 Speaker 9: Dear. 3763 02:54:13,959 --> 02:54:16,360 Speaker 4: Grocer said, the victim in the case didn't know Rose 3764 02:54:16,360 --> 02:54:18,400 Speaker 4: and couldn't pick him out of the lineup the statements 3765 02:54:18,440 --> 02:54:20,840 Speaker 4: that both Beckman and the code defender report he made 3766 02:54:20,879 --> 02:54:23,640 Speaker 4: to the police for a self serving attempt to blame others. 3767 02:54:23,920 --> 02:54:26,240 Speaker 4: Rose also has health problems that are making his jail 3768 02:54:26,240 --> 02:54:27,000 Speaker 4: stay difficult. 3769 02:54:27,160 --> 02:54:31,760 Speaker 6: Oh that that poor guy, I got asthma. I really 3770 02:54:31,800 --> 02:54:32,600 Speaker 6: need to be let go. 3771 02:54:33,200 --> 02:54:36,280 Speaker 4: Assistant us attorney John Davis responded by saying that Rose 3772 02:54:36,320 --> 02:54:38,760 Speaker 4: was a flight wrist and could face thirty seven years 3773 02:54:38,760 --> 02:54:41,039 Speaker 4: in prisoner is convicted. At the end of the hearing, 3774 02:54:41,400 --> 02:54:43,200 Speaker 4: Colin said that she would take the issue on the 3775 02:54:43,240 --> 02:54:47,520 Speaker 4: advisement Rose. Friends of relatives declined to comment outside the courtroom, 3776 02:54:47,640 --> 02:54:48,760 Speaker 4: as did dead grocer. 3777 02:54:49,360 --> 02:54:52,000 Speaker 6: All right, guess the race of what does this do? 3778 02:54:52,080 --> 02:54:53,320 Speaker 6: His name? Todd Beckman? 3779 02:54:54,959 --> 02:54:55,320 Speaker 7: White? 3780 02:54:55,879 --> 02:54:58,640 Speaker 6: Care's going with white? All right? What about you? Marissa? 3781 02:55:01,160 --> 02:55:06,760 Speaker 2: Isn't racist but like white but white? What I said, 3782 02:55:06,879 --> 02:55:09,080 Speaker 2: isn't racist but likes to say nigger white. 3783 02:55:09,160 --> 02:55:11,959 Speaker 6: M Oh, that old house nigga, Todd Backman. 3784 02:55:12,520 --> 02:55:15,320 Speaker 4: Oh what about you, Leslie? 3785 02:55:16,600 --> 02:55:16,880 Speaker 7: Uh? 3786 02:55:17,120 --> 02:55:19,240 Speaker 5: Loving day march organized? They're white? 3787 02:55:19,680 --> 02:55:22,840 Speaker 4: Oh, organizer leading the parade. 3788 02:55:23,480 --> 02:55:23,800 Speaker 6: Hmmm. 3789 02:55:23,879 --> 02:55:28,120 Speaker 4: I think someone's got there in the next interview White. Oh, 3790 02:55:28,320 --> 02:55:31,640 Speaker 4: his favorite show is the Wire, White the Shade. 3791 02:55:31,920 --> 02:55:33,320 Speaker 6: He's gonna unfollow me the Tea. 3792 02:55:33,400 --> 02:55:35,840 Speaker 4: The twenty seventh Grand came in Generation of Wealth, White, 3793 02:55:36,240 --> 02:55:39,320 Speaker 4: the Fast interferious, Paul Walker, White a nigga would just 3794 02:55:39,400 --> 02:55:41,760 Speaker 4: did a drive by and the gun turned on the side. 3795 02:55:41,800 --> 02:55:44,119 Speaker 4: White black folks ain't got tied to babysit. 3796 02:55:44,240 --> 02:55:48,039 Speaker 6: Someone that got to kill white white leave the weapon plot. 3797 02:55:48,080 --> 02:55:50,320 Speaker 4: The only thing missing is a middle age black cops 3798 02:55:50,320 --> 02:55:51,600 Speaker 4: saying I'm too over this shit. 3799 02:55:51,680 --> 02:55:54,879 Speaker 6: White, the whitest name in the history of white's white. 3800 02:55:55,480 --> 02:55:58,959 Speaker 4: See, this would not have happened at the Tyrone shopping plaza. 3801 02:55:58,959 --> 02:56:01,840 Speaker 4: This entrepreneur is white, acted out of acted out of 3802 02:56:01,879 --> 02:56:07,160 Speaker 4: economic anxiety. Oh so Soprano ship White, Becky Beckman, white 3803 02:56:07,879 --> 02:56:10,240 Speaker 4: product was the same color as his kids. 3804 02:56:10,280 --> 02:56:10,560 Speaker 6: White. 3805 02:56:11,200 --> 02:56:16,560 Speaker 4: Uh, watching too much dexter jew white jew white was anyway, 3806 02:56:18,280 --> 02:56:18,760 Speaker 4: I don't even know. 3807 02:56:18,760 --> 02:56:20,320 Speaker 6: How ju got in there, but they like. 3808 02:56:28,200 --> 02:56:30,920 Speaker 4: And I'll put his picture in the chat, Like I said, Uh, 3809 02:56:31,040 --> 02:56:32,600 Speaker 4: I can't take care of on screen. 3810 02:56:32,640 --> 02:56:35,520 Speaker 6: But he, guys, go, he was white as fucked though. 3811 02:56:36,680 --> 02:56:40,640 Speaker 4: All right, last thing, guys gotta talk about sore ratchetness. 3812 02:56:41,480 --> 02:56:45,320 Speaker 6: Oh here bro, Yeah, well I think he owned all 3813 02:56:45,360 --> 02:56:47,320 Speaker 6: those you know, all that stuff I named. 3814 02:56:47,320 --> 02:56:52,400 Speaker 4: We're all like fitness stands right, you know let x Yeah, 3815 02:56:52,400 --> 02:56:55,959 Speaker 4: it's like life xdu x so and so fitness. Like 3816 02:56:56,800 --> 02:57:00,360 Speaker 4: it sounds like he was one of these like yeah, 3817 02:57:00,440 --> 02:57:02,000 Speaker 4: it sounds like a plot from Fargo. 3818 02:57:03,080 --> 02:57:07,680 Speaker 6: Like it's so weird. Anyway, All right, sword ratching. 3819 02:57:07,440 --> 02:57:07,920 Speaker 2: This time. 3820 02:57:28,240 --> 02:57:31,240 Speaker 4: And he's dead and free him and give him twenty 3821 02:57:31,280 --> 02:57:32,600 Speaker 4: seven thousand dollars to his family. 3822 02:57:35,000 --> 02:57:35,480 Speaker 6: Police. 3823 02:57:36,680 --> 02:57:40,840 Speaker 4: It's never good when he started with that, the first 3824 02:57:40,840 --> 02:57:44,400 Speaker 4: sentence in any article that starts police, there's always some 3825 02:57:44,400 --> 02:57:45,920 Speaker 4: ship the police said about you. 3826 02:57:48,080 --> 02:57:52,279 Speaker 6: Police. Son arrested for threatening father with sword. Mm hmmmmmm. 3827 02:57:52,760 --> 02:57:54,520 Speaker 4: A twenty one year old man was arrested after he 3828 02:57:54,560 --> 02:57:57,120 Speaker 4: pulled a sword, causing his father to brandish a gun 3829 02:57:57,200 --> 02:58:00,840 Speaker 4: during the well gun does trump's sword? You're in a 3830 02:58:00,879 --> 02:58:04,920 Speaker 4: family disturbance. Justin Andrews was arrested at the Police were 3831 02:58:04,959 --> 02:58:08,240 Speaker 4: called to Travis Street before six pm, where a son 3832 02:58:08,280 --> 02:58:10,840 Speaker 4: and the father were allegedly holding each other at weapon point. 3833 02:58:11,680 --> 02:58:12,960 Speaker 6: Let's see that ain't nothing but love. 3834 02:58:14,240 --> 02:58:16,040 Speaker 4: Some thing kept your daddy from pulling the trigger and 3835 02:58:16,160 --> 02:58:19,400 Speaker 4: killing your ass, because no way it should be a standoff. 3836 02:58:19,440 --> 02:58:21,439 Speaker 6: If I got a gun and you got a sword. 3837 02:58:21,840 --> 02:58:23,640 Speaker 7: Right, yeah, you're getting shot. 3838 02:58:23,879 --> 02:58:25,880 Speaker 6: Yeah that's love right there, because my daddy. 3839 02:58:25,920 --> 02:58:27,360 Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you right now, my dad would have 3840 02:58:27,480 --> 02:58:30,440 Speaker 4: I would have been in the paper like pow, that 3841 02:58:30,520 --> 02:58:31,320 Speaker 4: nigga was crazy. 3842 02:58:33,840 --> 02:58:34,880 Speaker 7: We'll make it the other one. 3843 02:58:34,959 --> 02:58:37,280 Speaker 6: He went bad somewhere. I don't know what happened. 3844 02:58:37,959 --> 02:58:41,280 Speaker 4: Uh, you know that's your son, That's what he say. 3845 02:58:41,640 --> 02:58:44,360 Speaker 4: The two became involved in family disturbance when the forty 3846 02:58:44,400 --> 02:58:46,600 Speaker 4: eight year old father told his son to lead a house. 3847 02:58:46,800 --> 02:58:48,760 Speaker 4: When police showed up, they spoke with the victim and 3848 02:58:48,840 --> 02:58:51,400 Speaker 4: father of the suspect and determined that the father wanted 3849 02:58:51,440 --> 02:58:54,879 Speaker 4: his son out and asked for his keys. Martin said, 3850 02:58:54,959 --> 02:58:57,640 Speaker 4: that is when the argument got heated. If he wants 3851 02:58:57,640 --> 02:58:59,800 Speaker 4: you out the house, what is the sword gonna do? Bro, 3852 02:59:01,520 --> 02:59:04,200 Speaker 4: What was the plan? Well, I got just saw it. 3853 02:59:04,240 --> 02:59:05,760 Speaker 6: Now you can stay. 3854 02:59:07,280 --> 02:59:09,640 Speaker 4: That's when the argument got heated and just start damaging 3855 02:59:09,640 --> 02:59:12,520 Speaker 4: property in the home by punching guess the race right, 3856 02:59:15,360 --> 02:59:16,560 Speaker 4: punching holes in the wall. 3857 02:59:16,840 --> 02:59:19,320 Speaker 6: White, by the way, anyone else confused? He is white. 3858 02:59:20,120 --> 02:59:23,720 Speaker 4: The father tried to stop Andrews from damaging the property, 3859 02:59:24,040 --> 02:59:26,240 Speaker 4: pushing him away from the wile and just fell. After 3860 02:59:26,240 --> 02:59:29,680 Speaker 4: the push, Andrews runs over, grabs the sword, pulls. 3861 02:59:29,400 --> 02:59:30,920 Speaker 6: It on his dad. Margine said. 3862 02:59:30,959 --> 02:59:33,080 Speaker 4: In the process, the father gets a hand on the sword, 3863 02:59:33,280 --> 02:59:36,080 Speaker 4: simultaneously takes a gun out and points it at Andrews. 3864 02:59:36,200 --> 02:59:38,000 Speaker 6: Oh he was ready, Oh. 3865 02:59:37,920 --> 02:59:41,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, if you ain't. If you stay ready, you 3866 02:59:41,959 --> 02:59:46,560 Speaker 4: ain't got to get ready. Staff was walking around like, oh, well, 3867 02:59:46,560 --> 02:59:49,680 Speaker 4: that's why I brought this a neighbor who planned to 3868 02:59:49,680 --> 02:59:53,120 Speaker 4: meet Andrew's father overheard the commotion and intervene. Martin said 3869 02:59:53,160 --> 02:59:55,840 Speaker 4: the disturbance was contained when police arrived, and no one 3870 02:59:55,879 --> 02:59:58,600 Speaker 4: was hurt during the incident. Police arrested Andrews one on 3871 02:59:58,640 --> 03:00:00,680 Speaker 4: first degree felling. He charges act later side with a 3872 03:00:00,720 --> 03:00:04,440 Speaker 4: daily weapon and he remains in McLelland County Jail under 3873 03:00:04,440 --> 03:00:07,000 Speaker 4: the bond listed with twenty five thousand dollars. 3874 03:00:07,240 --> 03:00:09,200 Speaker 6: And when he gets out, we ain't got no where 3875 03:00:09,200 --> 03:00:09,760 Speaker 6: to stay. 3876 03:00:11,760 --> 03:00:12,959 Speaker 7: And you're going back with daddy. 3877 03:00:13,040 --> 03:00:16,119 Speaker 4: What a dumb ass crime dog. But just another day 3878 03:00:16,160 --> 03:00:19,560 Speaker 4: in the life of these sore will the motherfuckers guys, 3879 03:00:20,120 --> 03:00:22,000 Speaker 4: instead of sores, why don't you guys pick up some 3880 03:00:22,040 --> 03:00:22,720 Speaker 4: safety pans. 3881 03:00:22,879 --> 03:00:27,320 Speaker 1: Okay, by the way, pick up some safety pin boxes. 3882 03:00:28,000 --> 03:00:29,840 Speaker 6: No, I was just gonna say, safety pins. What happened 3883 03:00:29,840 --> 03:00:33,200 Speaker 6: to thos? Remember what y'all remember? They was gonna wear 3884 03:00:33,240 --> 03:00:33,760 Speaker 6: safety fans. 3885 03:00:33,760 --> 03:00:35,480 Speaker 4: And then when Negroes was in distressed and we was 3886 03:00:35,480 --> 03:00:37,160 Speaker 4: gonna get saved by the safety fan white people. 3887 03:00:37,680 --> 03:00:41,040 Speaker 1: Yo, Rod, somebody rolled up on our Facebook page commenting 3888 03:00:41,160 --> 03:00:44,560 Speaker 1: what was this SPB kids? Leslie, and they're like, they're like, 3889 03:00:44,600 --> 03:00:46,760 Speaker 1: how about your teacher kids? That safety pins are just 3890 03:00:46,760 --> 03:00:49,640 Speaker 1: performed with allyship. This was a white person instead of 3891 03:00:49,800 --> 03:00:52,000 Speaker 1: instead of encouraging the wear pins and me and Leslie 3892 03:00:52,000 --> 03:00:54,520 Speaker 1: coming and we're like, so you just didn't even look 3893 03:00:55,800 --> 03:01:00,640 Speaker 1: you You just didn't even read what too luck women. 3894 03:01:00,560 --> 03:01:03,640 Speaker 7: Creating that happens, So you want to be woke so bad? 3895 03:01:04,600 --> 03:01:08,440 Speaker 4: That happens so often, Man's it's really look man, God 3896 03:01:08,480 --> 03:01:10,640 Speaker 4: blessed the work y'all doing. Man, y'all deal with these 3897 03:01:10,680 --> 03:01:13,280 Speaker 4: white folks for so that we don't have to. And 3898 03:01:13,320 --> 03:01:15,240 Speaker 4: I'm glad y'all getting these coins. 3899 03:01:15,840 --> 03:01:17,640 Speaker 7: For you to be on the microphone just be mad 3900 03:01:17,680 --> 03:01:17,960 Speaker 7: at him. 3901 03:01:18,120 --> 03:01:20,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, like y'all y'all out there doing a lot of 3902 03:01:20,520 --> 03:01:23,560 Speaker 4: good work man. And uh, like I said, I love 3903 03:01:23,600 --> 03:01:28,200 Speaker 4: you guys. Y'all really inspire us. And y'all have so 3904 03:01:28,280 --> 03:01:31,200 Speaker 4: much integrity that y'all navigate all this ship with this 3905 03:01:31,400 --> 03:01:35,360 Speaker 4: uh honor to know y'all we love you too. 3906 03:01:35,480 --> 03:01:37,760 Speaker 1: And also more importantly, I feel like we need to 3907 03:01:37,840 --> 03:01:41,160 Speaker 1: write quick before we need to create a space. Well, 3908 03:01:41,200 --> 03:01:42,879 Speaker 1: we could just talk about how excited we already go 3909 03:01:42,920 --> 03:01:45,879 Speaker 1: Jamaica with and leave brought out because he's getting you know, 3910 03:01:46,000 --> 03:01:46,440 Speaker 1: cut out. 3911 03:01:47,440 --> 03:01:51,039 Speaker 3: Also just so because so we had this idea to 3912 03:01:51,160 --> 03:01:55,039 Speaker 3: do impromptu podcasts while we're in Jamaica, called the Better 3913 03:01:55,120 --> 03:01:59,320 Speaker 3: Half Podcast. It would be me and care Sla and 3914 03:01:59,520 --> 03:02:01,160 Speaker 3: we just be stunting on these hose. 3915 03:02:01,520 --> 03:02:03,840 Speaker 4: Well, i'll tell you what I don't. I'm the only 3916 03:02:03,840 --> 03:02:05,400 Speaker 4: one in this house with a passport right now. 3917 03:02:05,440 --> 03:02:08,160 Speaker 6: So I hope. 3918 03:02:08,920 --> 03:02:11,200 Speaker 4: I hope it works out, guys, I hope it works out. 3919 03:02:11,280 --> 03:02:14,879 Speaker 4: If not, i'll take the tickets. I'll go if you'll 3920 03:02:15,840 --> 03:02:22,240 Speaker 4: if I have to, Okay, look, I'll buy my own tickets. 3921 03:02:22,280 --> 03:02:23,320 Speaker 6: I'll get my own room. 3922 03:02:23,360 --> 03:02:26,160 Speaker 4: I'll just be taking pictures in Jamaica, like from Afar 3923 03:02:26,400 --> 03:02:28,520 Speaker 4: and ship like. I'll be making it look like I'm 3924 03:02:28,560 --> 03:02:30,600 Speaker 4: with y'all, but the selfie is gonna be me like 3925 03:02:30,680 --> 03:02:32,279 Speaker 4: fifty feet away, like look. 3926 03:02:32,160 --> 03:02:34,320 Speaker 6: Day at the beach and I'm here too, Karen, which 3927 03:02:34,400 --> 03:02:34,879 Speaker 6: you was here? 3928 03:02:35,120 --> 03:02:35,440 Speaker 5: All right? 3929 03:02:35,440 --> 03:02:38,560 Speaker 1: We about to get gated property. 3930 03:02:38,320 --> 03:02:45,240 Speaker 6: Right, Hey guys, Hey go go black women? All right? Man, 3931 03:02:45,240 --> 03:02:46,720 Speaker 6: we got we gotta go because we about to get 3932 03:02:46,720 --> 03:02:49,160 Speaker 6: cut off. Anyway. We'll be back tomorrow with. 3933 03:02:49,160 --> 03:02:52,400 Speaker 4: Bosiyikby Man can't wait to talk to her until then. 3934 03:02:52,800 --> 03:02:54,360 Speaker 7: I love you, I you too, wo