1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: This is Unbreakable with Jay Glacier, a mental wealth podcast 2 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: build you from the inside out. 3 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 2: Now here's Jay Glacier. 4 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: Welcome into Unbreakable, a mental Wealth podcast with Jay Glazer. 5 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 2: I'm so excited about today's guest. 6 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: Well, he's my training partner and Unbreakable, but he's also 7 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:24,959 Speaker 1: a huge performer. We're gonna get to him a little 8 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: bit here. He's a huge rapper, huge artist, huge everything. 9 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: But if you're like many people, you may be surprised 10 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: to learn that one in five adults in this country 11 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: experience mental illness last year, yet far too many failua 12 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 1: received the sport they needed. 13 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 2: Carolyn Behavioral Health is doing something about it. 14 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 1: They understand that behavioral health is a key part of 15 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:46,959 Speaker 1: whole health, delivering compassionate care that treats physical, mental, emotional, 16 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 1: and social needs and tandem Carolin Behavioral Health raising the 17 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: quality of life through empathy and action. Again, Welcome into Unbreakable, 18 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: a mental Wealth podcast with Jay Glazier. My guest today. 19 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: He has had a hit song and Coco. He's had 20 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: a song that Beyonce's used in Coachella. He's had a 21 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: song that we'd using an iPhone commercial and usually during 22 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 1: the week you could find him trying to punch me 23 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 1: in the face, the one and only Ot Genesis. 24 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 2: How we doing, bud? 25 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 3: Oh, good, brother, I'm good. Good that for an intro 26 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 3: Hell was a great intro am. 27 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 2: I far off on anything. No, you're good, You're good. 28 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,199 Speaker 2: It's pretty cool, you know. You know we've been trained 29 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 2: now to get it for shit? How long? About five years? 30 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 2: Six years? Like six years before COVID, right before COVID, 31 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 2: May before. 32 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 3: COVID, two years before cold. 33 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: Right by the way, Ot is the only guy that 34 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: come to my birthday party with a gift for me 35 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 1: of Don Juliu in nineteen forty two. 36 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 2: And then drank my entire birthday gifts. 37 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 3: The greatest rod. 38 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 2: So don't invite him to your apartments. FA. But man, 39 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 2: we become brothers obviously. 40 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: And you know we've trained all these years. We sweat, 41 00:01:58,920 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: we bleed together. 42 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 2: But I never asked you, and I don't know why 43 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 2: because I usually get always going through this early. How 44 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 2: you got your start? Where to start? 45 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 3: It started? It started in Long Beach, come originally from 46 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 3: Loan Beach. But it started off like doing like I was, 47 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 3: like doing talent shows and everything like that. 48 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 2: What age are we talking here. 49 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 3: I'm at this point, I'm around fourteen fourteen, But I 50 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 3: always had love for music. And you know, back then, 51 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 3: we used to they used to have music videos. That's 52 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 3: what we always lock intol. We watched music videos before 53 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 3: we go to school. And you always like, I want 54 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 3: to be like that guy. I want to be like 55 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 3: that guy. But in like in my city, like the 56 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 3: man was Snoop, like Snoop who we looked up to. 57 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 3: And so you know, I bought some equipment, had a producer, 58 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 3: bought some equipment. Used to go to high school, you know, 59 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 3: inside the classrooms. I used to always write raps inside 60 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 3: the classrooms. So I'm always getting in trouble. You're always 61 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,239 Speaker 3: writing writing wraps inside the classrooms, you know, dischital school, 62 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 3: doing all kinds of stuff like that. I say, at 63 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 3: the age of like fifteen, a year after that of 64 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 3: me like working with you know, pro tools and everything 65 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 3: like that with me and my boy in the garage. 66 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 3: And so now we start making up these songs that 67 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 3: only we like, only we enjoyed, you know, because if 68 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 3: you record it, you're like, have you heard what we 69 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 3: did last night? Even if it was trash, you know, 70 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 3: it's like the fact that we recorded the song was 71 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 3: the dopest thing ever. So I got into this, this 72 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 3: talent show. They should do talent shows out here in 73 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 3: hollyo in Hollywood. Actually it was this guy who his 74 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 3: name was went by. The name was Sean Heay. He 75 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 3: had shows. What they would do was they would get 76 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 3: the artists in order to pack up, like fill the room. 77 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 3: They would have every artist sell ten to twenty tickets 78 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 3: for ten dollars each. So basically you send it, you 79 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 3: sending that to your family members, your friends or whatever, 80 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 3: and then they probably have like twenty artists performing that night. 81 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 3: But then everybody is sending like selling their tickets to 82 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 3: ten or twenty tickets. Now got a pack you know, 83 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 3: pause backed house, and now it was like time for 84 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 3: you to perform, So they give you a slot. You 85 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 3: go perform. I used to crush it even though without 86 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 3: you know, without everybody even knowing my song, you know, 87 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 3: And it was just like I was always great at performing. 88 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 3: It went from there to me staying at it a 89 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 3: few years later then, but so. 90 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 1: So how many years So this is like how many 91 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 1: years of you just doing this? This is like working 92 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: at your craft for no one's watching that's what people 93 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: don't get. 94 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 2: They think there's an overnight sensations. 95 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, before I would say like that was like seven 96 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 3: seven eight years seven, eight years yeah, yeah, like you know, 97 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 3: perfecting my craft. And then my mom told me one time, 98 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 3: she was like, yo, what, like why are you doing this? 99 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 3: You're living in a fantasy world. You know, your cousins 100 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 3: want to rap, everybody want to become rappers. You guys 101 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 3: got your pants hanging off your ass. 102 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 2: So my mom was not going for none of it, 103 00:04:58,040 --> 00:04:58,919 Speaker 2: and she wasn't wrong. 104 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 3: She wasn't. 105 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 2: She was like, now, why you. 106 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 3: Just don't go to school? Cause my mom has her 107 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 3: master's So why you why you just don't go to school? 108 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 3: Why you just can't be Why you just can't be 109 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 3: like like your like your like like her brother's kids. 110 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 3: She always like, why do you guys to get da 111 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 3: da da da? You always want to rap and everything. 112 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, I'm like, man, no, you don't know 113 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 3: how good I am. But she wasn't worried about knowing 114 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 3: how good I am because she you know, she even 115 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 3: like really messed with that, you know, and I'm just 116 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 3: like all right, whatever. So it's maybe like eight years later, 117 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 3: seven eight years later, I'm doing another like talent show. 118 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 3: It wasn't the talent show. It was a club. Actually 119 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 3: is it? 120 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,239 Speaker 2: Is it like open mic night type of text? 121 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah yeah. So I'm performing and some guy talked 122 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 3: to me after. He said, Hey, who you signed to. 123 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm not. I'm not you know, I'm not 124 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 3: signing nobody anything like that, like a can I have 125 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 3: your number? I'm like, yeah, no problem. So he was like, yeah, 126 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 3: I may got something like you have a manager. I'm like, no, 127 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:58,359 Speaker 3: I have a manager either. He's like okay. So I 128 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 3: get a call like two weeks later, and it was 129 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 3: like my manager at the time. His name was Dino, 130 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 3: and he's like, hey, I really like this song that 131 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 3: you got. H We're gonna try to work something out, 132 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 3: like let's talk about management. I'm like, okay, no problem. 133 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 3: But I didn't really care about I didn't really know 134 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 3: what a manager was. I just thought that somebody that 135 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 3: was trying to take your money. I didn't know what 136 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 3: it was, you know, I just know I was rapping, 137 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 3: That's all I knew. I'm helping my friend move, and 138 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 3: I'm helping him I'm moving to helping move his stuff 139 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,559 Speaker 3: out of his apartment. He's about to get a new place. 140 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 3: So it's like a Saturday helping him move. My phone 141 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 3: is going off the hook. My phone going off the hook, 142 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 3: going off the hook. I don't know why, but I'm 143 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 3: like I'll get to that later. We still got stuff 144 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 3: in the truck and we moved, got the frigerator, picking 145 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 3: up the frigerator, my phone is just really or whatever. 146 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 3: So I pick up the phone and then uh Dino course, 147 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 3: he's like, yo, fifty want to get on the phone show. 148 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 3: I'm like fifty fifty, you're talking about fifty. I'm like 149 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 3: fifty cent. Yeah, he's going to get a phone with you. 150 00:06:54,640 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 3: I'm like hell nah, you know. So he's like no, 151 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 3: because I'm like I'm blowing help. I'm moving refrigerators right now. 152 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 3: So he said, yeah, give me a minute. So you're 153 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 3: on the three way. He has like assistant. He's like, yeah, hey, 154 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 3: are you doing ot? 155 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: Yeah? 156 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 2: Go you and fifty assistant. 157 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 3: So it's me my manager at the time, fifties assistant, 158 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 3: and the fifty assistant about about to put fifty on 159 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 3: the phone. So he's like, yeah, this got really interesting. 160 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 3: Fifty said hold on one second. I'm like all right, 161 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 3: He's like, yo, I'm like and if you know fifty 162 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 3: and you well, you know you're familiar with the news, 163 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 3: You're like, oh, that's fifty on the phone. So now 164 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 3: me and fifties talking and he cracking jokes the whole time. 165 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 3: He's like, look, I'm gonna sign you to a deal. Ye, 166 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 3: I'm gonna sign you to a single deal and see 167 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 3: how that goes. And at the point at that time, 168 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 3: I didn't even know what this single deal meant either. 169 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 3: But basically, if you don't know what the single deal is, like, 170 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 3: I'm signing you to one song right here, like, you know, 171 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 3: for for a single, not an album, not a couple 172 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 3: of years, not about one song. And we see how 173 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,679 Speaker 3: this is going, you know whatever. So now I'm happy. 174 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 3: He's like, I know what you're gonna don't go back 175 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 3: to your hood telling everybody you're super rich, because I 176 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 3: know that's what she's gonna do. 177 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 2: And I just started laughing. 178 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 3: He was like, he was like, you know what, I'm 179 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 3: gonna come to La. I'm gonna come see you. I 180 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 3: have a mixture meeting with Part one or six and 181 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 3: everything like that, so I'm gonna come see you. Just 182 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 3: pull up to the meeting in Santa Monica. I was like, okay, cool, 183 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 3: so we do that. We get to the deal finalized, 184 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,559 Speaker 3: shoot some videos, go out there, run around with him 185 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 3: and Floyd. That's when him and Floyd maybe it was 186 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 3: like super super tight and fly out there, run around, 187 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 3: do a couple of shows everything. 188 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 2: So what was the song? 189 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 3: It was a song called the song was called Jackie 190 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 3: Jackie Chan at the time, right, I was basically saying like, 191 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 3: like we all used to say that we stunt, but 192 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 3: it was another way of saying, you know, we fly. 193 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 3: You got the flys cars. I would saying I stunt, 194 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 3: and I was like, I stunt Jackie Chan. But yeah, anyway, 195 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 3: so that happened. And then and you know, he was 196 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 3: doing his sk headphones and everything like that, and so 197 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 3: I was like, you know, he was real busy. So 198 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 3: the song didn't really do what it was supposed to do. 199 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: Wait, waita back up before you even like, this is 200 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:12,959 Speaker 1: what I want people to understand too. 201 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 2: I want to know. I want to get educated. You 202 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 2: have fifty seven coming out to do a deal with you. 203 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 2: How do you go learn how to do a deal 204 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:22,199 Speaker 2: with fifty cent? 205 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 3: Yeah? Well, obviously from the my manager at the time, 206 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 3: and my lawyer. 207 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 2: It was just like, you got a lawyer, you got it, 208 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 2: You went and got someone. 209 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, did you. 210 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 2: Have a lawyer? And tell me you like, oh shit, 211 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 2: I gotta do something. Fifty cents, I got to go 212 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 2: hire a lawyer. 213 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 214 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 215 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 3: I was like, you know what I'm going, I gotta 216 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 3: go give you a lawyer because I don't know how this, 217 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 3: you know, I don't know the verbiage or anything. So 218 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 3: I got a lawyer. Obviously helped my My manager helped me, 219 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 3: you know, find the right lawyer, found a lawyer, and 220 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:54,559 Speaker 3: then you know, he explained to me what everything meant. 221 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 3: And I still didn't know to what everything meant, but 222 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 3: I kind of had a clue and I was okay 223 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 3: with it. It was just like, after the deal was 224 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 3: done and the song was out, it did what it 225 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 3: what it done, I'm kind of like, what's next, what 226 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 3: we're doing? You know. But but at that point, me 227 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 3: and him just had a real good friendship, you know, 228 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 3: at that point, so it was just like, okay, cool, 229 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 3: it was just a single deal. So that's twenty eleven. 230 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 3: So I just stayed hustling and stay grinding. 231 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: So wait, so it didn't do what you were hoping 232 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: it did. Tell me, like, how did you coach yourself 233 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: up through that? Cause that's in a way it's heartbreaking, 234 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: right you think here's my big break, and man, it's 235 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 1: still not there. 236 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 2: And I just said, look, I've had it. 237 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: It took me eleven years to get my first full 238 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 1: time job covering the NFL. And every time I thought 239 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: I had something, I think the year five, I gotta 240 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: hire brother the New York Post. 241 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 2: I'm like, here we are, here's my full time job. 242 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 3: Man. 243 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 2: I got nine grand a year for the New York 244 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 2: Post's all. I got nine thousand a year. And the 245 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 2: editor is like, where else you gonna go? You got 246 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,559 Speaker 2: no experience, No one else is gonna. 247 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: Hire you where everybody else is in eighty nine, year 248 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: one hundred, we're giving your ninth outs two hundred fifty 249 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: bucks a story for whatever. However many stories that was 250 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: nine thousand dollars. And I had a lot of those 251 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: moments I thought I made my big break and I 252 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: hadn't yet. 253 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 2: So how did you get yourself through that? The break, 254 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 2: but the disappointment, not not no, not not being what 255 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 2: you thought it was gonna be. 256 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the that's one of the that's one of 257 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 3: the scariest things because you're like, you're super excited thinking 258 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 3: life is going to go one way, and you're actually 259 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 3: thinking it's going to go one way because you're like, 260 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:34,199 Speaker 3: this is something that you've never experienced and it's something 261 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 3: that you dreamt of and it's happening. So for it 262 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 3: to be happening but still not happen is like it's 263 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 3: so tough to deal with, you know. So it was 264 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 3: times when I was like, dang, like they don't mess 265 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 3: with me like that, like, well we could do this, 266 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 3: and I'm always questioning myself. I had the question I 267 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 3: was questioning myself like was I good enough? And I 268 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 3: was like when I sat back and I was like, 269 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 3: you know what, I'm good. This is this is what 270 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 3: it is is, and I just gotta keep I gotta 271 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 3: keep going at it, keep working, gotta keep working. 272 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 2: You got to build yourself up. 273 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: Well, your dreams are kind of yeah, tinkering back and forth, 274 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 1: which is a lot of guys they. 275 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 2: Just wouldn't walk away from that. 276 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's how I think separates people like you 277 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 1: from all those cats that don't make it. 278 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it's tough, you know, but you really, you 279 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 3: really really got to fight to get what you want. 280 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 3: This is one guy a long time ago. I'll never 281 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 3: forget it. This was a time when they had like 282 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 3: MySpace out and everything like that, and I wanted to 283 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 3: do music and I used to see him hanging with 284 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 3: all the celebrities and everybody. But I knew him, you know, 285 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 3: and I'm like, how can I get there? And he 286 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 3: told me. He told me something very simple. He said, 287 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 3: just keep working. And I never knew. It just sounded 288 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 3: so cliche to me, so I was like, like, that's 289 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 3: all you're gonna tell me is keep working. But it's 290 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 3: the truth. It really is the truth. How like how 291 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 3: simple and cliche that sounds. It's like, no, keep working, 292 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 3: you know, it just sounds like, you know, it's like 293 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 3: I'm looking for Like I don't know what I expected him, right, 294 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 3: but that is you. 295 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: And I've talked about I tell people all the time, Lick, 296 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,839 Speaker 1: if you want to be the best, find out who 297 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: the best is and do more than them. 298 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 2: That's it. 299 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: That's the big secret, right, There's nothing else. Find out 300 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: what they do and do more than them. And people 301 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 1: look at me. Our football players are coming all the 302 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: top and I'll find it right, and I'll just say 303 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 1: that my finding who the best is your position and 304 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: do more, And they're like same thing, Like that's where 305 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: you can tell me, Yeah, you want to be great quarterback, 306 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: Let's find out what Tom Brady does and do more 307 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 1: than them. Yeah, right, the best defensive end, do more 308 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: than them, best linebacker do more than them. And the 309 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: number of people to that have said to me, I 310 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 1: can't do that, Well, there's your answer right there. 311 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, you gotta lock in. You gotta lock in. 312 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 3: And so I'm just saying consistently, I'm just working, working, 313 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 3: twelve come by, thirteen, comes by. When it gets to 314 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 3: like twenty fourteen, and I'm in the club like hammered wasted, 315 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 3: And I had a song called Touchdown at the time 316 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 3: and it was really like big regionally, especially around like 317 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 3: La and everything like that. And so that's when I 318 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,719 Speaker 3: ran into Bus Rounds at the time, and he was 319 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 3: telling me he wanted to do a deal with me, 320 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 3: and I was like, all right, so you know, let's go, 321 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 3: you know, let's go talk. So we went to the studio, 322 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 3: we talked about it, and we did a deal with Atlantic. 323 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 3: So I got him a label deal over there. He 324 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 3: got a label deal through me Atlantic Records, and so 325 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 3: we did that deal way back. 326 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 2: I want to I don't want to just bloss silver. 327 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: That's what you're looking for, right, that's like, oh my god, 328 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: that's that's not one song deal. 329 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 3: This is uh yeah, yeah, yeah that's it. 330 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 2: You talk about a touchdown escort it, you know, touchdown 331 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah, take you behind your eyes of like, 332 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 2: oh my god, it worked so hard. You kept working 333 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 2: and now you got tell. 334 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 3: Me what they felt like it felt. Really, I was like, damn, 335 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 3: I'm like, it's happening again. 336 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 2: You know, I don't trust it. 337 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, like damn, it's happening again. Okay, So but 338 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 3: I was. I was so excited because I'm you know, 339 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 3: I walked in and I was. I walked in the 340 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 3: label meeting and it was like there's so many producers 341 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 3: and artists and DJs, A and r's presidents that I 342 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 3: that I've done research on just from me being an 343 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 3: artist and trying to figure out who's who to get 344 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 3: my music to who to And I'm seeing all these 345 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 3: people in one room and they're all like, yo, we 346 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 3: think he's so dope. So this is the top of fourteen. Now, 347 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 3: this is what happens. So they gave me some money. 348 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 3: They gave me some money. Jay, when I tell you, 349 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:59,119 Speaker 3: I was going crazy. I'm I'm over there getting champagne 350 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 3: over here, getting this over there, doing that to where 351 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 3: I'm not even working. You know, it's kind of like 352 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 3: I lost I lost myself, you know. I you know, 353 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 3: I touched some money that I never touched in my life. 354 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 3: And I'm like, I'm just having fun with that. 355 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 2: You're like, I made it. 356 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 3: I made it. 357 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 2: I made it. 358 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 3: But I'm like, I know I made it, but I'm like, damn, 359 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 3: I'm not working. So these are there's there's months going by, 360 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 3: months going by, months going by. From January it got 361 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 3: to maybe it got to maybe September. From from January 362 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 3: to September, I didn't drop nothing. And so my A 363 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 3: and R gets on the phone and he spoke to 364 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 3: my manager, and I want to know what the conversation 365 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 3: is about. My manager was like, look, basically, what they're 366 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 3: saying is in December, they're gonna drop you. I was like, 367 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 3: they're gonna drop me. It was like, yeah, you ain't 368 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 3: put out no music, you know what I mean. You 369 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 3: ain't put in no music or nothing, like they're gonna 370 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 3: drop you. And I'm like, damn, okay, I got to 371 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 3: tighten up. So I type up, I lock in. I say, 372 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 3: you know what, I gotta, I gotta, I gotta chill, 373 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 3: gotta chill. I'm recording, and uh I recorded Coco this 374 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 3: one night, and so I recorded. I'm like, oh, that's 375 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 3: the one that's hard, right, And so now I have 376 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 3: another song. And this is why a lot of the time, 377 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 3: I say, you gotta trust your gut. You know, you 378 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 3: can't really let people think for you. If I take 379 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 3: an l I'm okay taking the al that I wanted 380 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 3: to take rather than somebody put me in that position. 381 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 3: And I took a So now I have another I 382 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 3: recorded Coco, But then I have another song, this is September, 383 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,360 Speaker 3: and have the other song that they were really interested, 384 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,679 Speaker 3: like the label was interested in. They was like, you 385 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 3: know what, We're gonna shoot this video. I said, you 386 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 3: know what, all right? Cool? Shoot the video big, like 387 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 3: a huge production, you know, like huge. They had to 388 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 3: spend at at least like three hundred thousand this video, right, 389 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 3: the video is crazy, And I'm like, damn, this is 390 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 3: like a I look like, I'm an artis now I 391 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 3: know now I look like I'm an artist, you know, 392 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 3: so I'm super excited the video comes out. I hated it. 393 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 3: I was like, what what happened to this? What happened 394 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 3: to that? What happened to this? Well happened to that part? 395 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 3: And that's when I started learning greatively, like the editor 396 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 3: is just important as a director, you know, and how 397 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 3: you edit your shots, because there were so many dope 398 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:26,679 Speaker 3: shots that I saw and I was like, why is 399 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:28,120 Speaker 3: that not in there? Why is that not in there? 400 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 3: And it was a thing where the director was sending 401 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 3: to the editor, and so the editors, you know, right 402 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 3: now I feel strongly, like I feel strongly about it's 403 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 3: his vision instead of yours exactly, and he wasn't even 404 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 3: here now, he's just getting something and just putting something together. 405 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 3: I hated they was like, and then Bussell was like, 406 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 3: what do you mean, Like, Yo, this is correct? I'm 407 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 3: looking really crazy right now to even He's kind of like, 408 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 3: you don't even have no room to say you hate it? 409 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 3: What do you mean you hate it? And so I'm like, 410 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:00,679 Speaker 3: I don't like it. What do you want to do? 411 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,640 Speaker 3: Because I got something else that I recorded the other night, 412 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 3: and he was like he was he looked at so sick. 413 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:13,199 Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, man, I got something else. So we 414 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 3: go and go to the projects and go shoot the 415 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 3: Coco video. 416 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 2: Did they have to drop another three hunderground for that? 417 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 3: No? No, no, that was free. That was look. We 418 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 3: go shoot that video and the second I put it out, 419 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 3: it changed my life instantly. Boom just spread like wildfire. 420 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 3: I mean, I would say, Jay in two and a 421 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 3: half weeks, I was already doing shows everywhere in two 422 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 3: and a half weeks. I went in two and a 423 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 3: half weeks. I started off in New York and I 424 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 3: saw so many people there, but I only got one song. 425 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 3: You know, I saw so many people there and it's 426 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 3: like it's sold out all of them. They're like all 427 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 3: the shows in New York showed out because we got 428 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 3: to see that guy. So most of the times you'll 429 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 3: go people will have like a long run with a 430 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,719 Speaker 3: hit record, that have a long run in the US, 431 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:19,439 Speaker 3: and then they go overseas. I was going overseas before 432 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 3: I was finishing my US run, so overseas they were 433 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 3: grabbing me over there, and like when as far as 434 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 3: to book me, you would have to book me three 435 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 3: months in advance. Wow, that's how much I was booked. 436 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:34,239 Speaker 3: And I was booked every single day. And so there 437 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 3: will be times where I'll go to that not not 438 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 3: there like all the time. Actually, I'll go to a 439 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 3: city and say, if I go to Miami. When I 440 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 3: go there, you know, some people are like, well, you 441 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 3: can't perform at this potder, you can't perform at this 442 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 3: powder whatever. You know, when I get there, I'm performing 443 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,439 Speaker 3: at every single spot. I don't care if I was 444 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 3: across the street last night, I'm across the street tomorrow 445 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,719 Speaker 3: because they knew that I wasn't coming back. You know, like, 446 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 3: once he performs here, he's gone. So if he's coming 447 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 3: the way that the way the routing is set up 448 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 3: is if he's coming to Miami, he probably won't be 449 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 3: in Miami again for a long time because he suck 450 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 3: because everybody wants it. 451 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: You're there because you're famous because the one song. But 452 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: are you then doing other songs? 453 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 3: All the songs? Yeah, I would do. I would do 454 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 3: other songs that people you know, don't know, not familiar with, 455 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 3: you know, and then they'd be like, yeah, they'll look 456 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 3: at me like this, and then that comes on boom boom. 457 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 3: Are you see is cell phones? People everybody giving over there? 458 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 3: I performing like five times in a row, you know 459 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 3: what I mean, like and get the same response. So yeah, 460 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 3: so that was that was it. That was wow. 461 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 1: Youve make advice to young rappers performers who was in 462 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: your position when you got first got signed by Fitty 463 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 1: or and got this deal and you said, you went 464 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: out and spent all that money and just went after me. 465 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 2: If what you now know. 466 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: Could tell the ot genesis advice when you got signed 467 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 1: actually by Buster Rhymes, and you just went out and 468 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 1: spend all that money instead of working your ass off, 469 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: what would you tell that yellow tea? 470 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 3: It would be like a everything would be all right, man, 471 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, everything everything to be all right. 472 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 3: You know, I'm we tend to always uh be you know, 473 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 3: getting nervous and scared obviously, like we're like sometimes I 474 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 3: gotta calm myself down because I'm like, when you're in 475 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 3: the know and you don't know what's going to happen next, 476 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 3: that's when we get really you know, we're getting nerved. 477 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 2: Living in question sucks. That's anxiety. 478 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean, Like. 479 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 3: That part right there sucks, especially if you know it 480 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 3: already sucks. But it really sucks when you feel like 481 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 3: I'm doing everything right, or you feel at least you 482 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 3: feel that you're doing everything right, it kind of sucks 483 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 3: because you're like, damn, I just I just hope this happens, 484 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 3: you know. But yeah, so I. 485 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 2: Want to go back. 486 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 1: Also, when you get time by Fiddy, do you get 487 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: money upfront or is it based on sales of what 488 00:22:58,040 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: he does? 489 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 3: I would get get money up front. It wouldn't be 490 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 3: that much. That much. 491 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: Now go back to the hood telling everybody wretch, no, no, 492 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: is there a lot of money when you first signed 493 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: that big record deal when you signed with Buster or 494 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: does it come? 495 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 3: That was a lot of money right there? It was. 496 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 3: But then but then what you don't know, what people 497 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 3: don't know is you have to pay that back. You know, 498 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 3: oh you do oh show it's an advance in advance. Yeah, 499 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 3: it's an advance, like you know what this is your 500 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 3: this budget, this is it. But you know you pay 501 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:30,880 Speaker 3: it back through your sales, you know what I mean? 502 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 3: And everything like that. 503 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 1: But if they cut you though, like you said, they 504 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: were almost going to cut you if you didn't start 505 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: coming out with stuff. 506 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:38,439 Speaker 2: You still gotta pay that back. 507 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 3: Or I wouldn't have to pay it. I would have 508 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 3: just been But I wish they would have cut me 509 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 3: because if they if they would have cut me right 510 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 3: then and there, then all that money, one hundred percent 511 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 3: of everything would have been mine. 512 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you wouldn't have had Cocoa out there. Video 513 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:52,959 Speaker 2: Yeah no. 514 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 3: But but but the thing is when it happened, it 515 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,400 Speaker 3: just it just happened, like I just put it up 516 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 3: on YouTube and it just went so that they didn't 517 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 3: even work it at radio. Yet, they didn't work it 518 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 3: at any It just went oh okay. 519 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 2: I didn't realize that part. 520 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,679 Speaker 3: Oh So that's what That was the craziest thing about 521 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 3: that record, because that record just shot like wildfire after that. 522 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 1: Again, you have a little success there, but a lot 523 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 1: of success with Coco. What was the thing that your 524 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: next step? I guess where you're like, oh man, no, okay, 525 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 1: I'm stringing some things together here. 526 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 2: I'm kind of a big dealer out here. 527 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. I was always thinking that, you know, I was like, 528 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,439 Speaker 3: you know what, I'm a big deal. But everybody kept saying, Yo, 529 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 3: what's next, What's next? What's next? Just you do what 530 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 3: They're like, oh, yeah, did you hear the one hit 531 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 3: wonder things? You heard all day? So you know, I 532 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 3: just buckled down. And then I had a song called 533 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:47,120 Speaker 3: cut It right after that and I dropped it when 534 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 3: double plattinum right out the gate really yeah, So so 535 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 3: I just know I was on fire then. You know, 536 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 3: it was like that can't stop me. Now. 537 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 2: So when you when when you're hearing the one hit 538 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 2: wonder stuff, is that scary you more? Is it motivated more? 539 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 3: It's motivating in a way, but then it's kind of 540 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 3: it's kind of scary because you kind of like you 541 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 3: you don't know what somebody else is going to think 542 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 3: about your music. You know, you know, I know that 543 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 3: this song doesn't sound like this song. This song mean 544 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 3: I sound like this song and this song mean I 545 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 3: sound like this song. So you're you're you're you're really 546 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 3: you're really like it is motivating, but it's like, uh, 547 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 3: maybe this can go wrong because it's not full control exactly. 548 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 3: You know. 549 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, the really days of my career, I would think 550 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: I couldn't understand why someone went like it was eleven 551 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 1: years of getting turned down and rejected, and I'm like, 552 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: so I knew. 553 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,880 Speaker 2: I knew I built a better mousetrap than everybody else. 554 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I learned just because you build a better mousetrap 555 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: doesn't mean everybody wants to buy it. 556 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 3: That was hard for me, right right right. It's kind 557 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 3: of like, oh if if somebody says said that to me, 558 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 3: and I was a basketball player, I'm like, Okay, I 559 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 3: can't wait to get the ball, right, you know what 560 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 3: I mean. You're in full control of that, yes, But 561 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 3: in here it's like it's like, oh wow, we have 562 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 3: to you know, we got we got to hear it. 563 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 3: If we like it, we like it, we don't, we don't. 564 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,479 Speaker 2: What's the coolest thing that's happened to you on your 565 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 2: journey in your career. 566 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 3: I would say the coolest thing that happened to me 567 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 3: would be like me performing and watching people like cry. 568 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 3: I ain't seen nobody cryins Michael Jackson. No. I was 569 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,919 Speaker 3: in I had a show and uh it was in 570 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 3: uh in Taiwan, and I'm seeing men and then crying, 571 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like, oh my god, you 572 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 3: know what I mean. You when I get off the plane, 573 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 3: they're like, oh wow, you know what I mean? And 574 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 3: that that part right, there is like it's super super 575 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 3: dope because you're looking at yourself and you're like, damn, 576 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 3: I work so hard. But then I'm I mean so 577 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 3: much to somebody who I don't even know. 578 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 2: That's cool. 579 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: That's that's yeah, that's that's you lifting people up and 580 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: being of service now, but just doing something you love 581 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: that's the ultimate prize. 582 00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, that's pretty samn cool. 583 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: What's the biggest thing that's happened, Like a celebrity that's 584 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 1: recognized you I'm a big fan and you're like, oh 585 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:07,479 Speaker 1: my god, this just happened. 586 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, my mine. Uh, it would have to 587 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 3: be well, of course, of course Beyonce. But as far 588 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 3: as like sports, I would have to be. I would 589 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 3: have to say he came, he came to me in 590 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 3: the club. He was like, yo, you to go. I 591 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 3: was like what you gotta know what that felt like 592 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 3: to You're like, what are you talking about? You know? 593 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 3: I'm like, Yo, this is the dude that crossed mic 594 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,399 Speaker 3: you know what I mean telling me I'm the go. 595 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 3: So yeah, like, as far as like sports would have 596 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,880 Speaker 3: to be, you have to be him, Like I'm cool 597 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 3: with you know, with Lebron and all the guys too, 598 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 3: But the one that came like for somebody to come 599 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 3: up to me and be like, yo, you the go bro, 600 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 3: you just don't know you just I'm telling you right now, 601 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 3: you that I like having that full conversation with me 602 00:27:58,840 --> 00:27:59,919 Speaker 3: for like thirty minutes. 603 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 2: It was like a I, how did it come that? 604 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 2: Beyonce use your song? Like how's that for? How does 605 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 2: that go down? And yeah, this. 606 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 3: Is crazy because I had a show in North Carolina. 607 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 3: I'll never forget I had a show in North Carolina 608 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 3: and then I had an after party appearance and so 609 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 3: I did the show, I had an after party appearance. 610 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 3: When I was driving to the after party was like 611 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 3: an hour out and so I'm in them. I'm going 612 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 3: in the car and my phone is going crazy, but 613 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 3: I keep once again it's like I'm just ignoring everybody. 614 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,679 Speaker 3: So I'm ignoring everybody because I'm on my phone is 615 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 3: on the ox scord when I'm playing music, So I'm 616 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 3: just ending everybody. Who's you know what I mean, who's 617 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 3: calling im? I got a long drive. I'm trying to 618 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 3: you know, trying to stay you know what i mean, 619 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 3: turned up. So I'm in the person, in person and 620 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 3: in person in. I keep us in And then my 621 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 3: brother had text me. When my brother text me like, yo, 622 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 3: you see Beyonce, I was like, what are you talking about? 623 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 3: TEXTINGIM like, what are you talking about? She's like, sho 624 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 3: in the Coachella stage right now. When I looked at 625 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 3: my phone, my phone was crazy. My Instagram was crazy. 626 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 3: It was bumble bees everywhere. Everybody put this whole beatiping 627 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 3: was bumble bees everywhere, all over my phone, all over 628 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 3: my taste. Everybody has seen me. I'm then I I 629 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 3: look at the I go look at the show. I 630 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 3: was like, never, it looked just so crazy, bro, I 631 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 3: couldn't even believe it. 632 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 2: So you didn't know going into it she was gonna 633 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 2: use your song. I didn't notice at all. I didn't 634 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 2: know back it up, you hal fiance does one of 635 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 2: your songs? You have no idea doing that? 636 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 3: No, I didn't know at all. I didn't know at all. 637 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 3: So that was the thing. And then later she reached 638 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 3: out to management and asked can they use it throughout 639 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 3: the tour and we was like, hell, yeah, you can't. 640 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 2: Even did you ever talk to her about it? 641 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 3: I know, I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't 642 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 3: talk to her about it still this day. 643 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: No, still to this day, you kidding reach out to 644 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: o T You gotta be kidd really. 645 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I performed at her her show, but DJ Kelly 646 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 3: brought me out LA they had to on a run tour. 647 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 3: I performed at twice I think twice on her tour, 648 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 3: but I still haven't met her yet. 649 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 2: That's unbelievable, man, unbelievable. 650 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: So what do you again, I don't know your business. 651 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: Do you get paid when she sings your song? It's 652 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: just like, hey, more people know who I am, so 653 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: I can pay it that way. 654 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 3: It was she she would raise the streams up and 655 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 3: everything like that. So yeah, I do get paid because 656 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 3: she's awareness, you. 657 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 2: Know, she raised the streams. 658 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 3: It was a crazy so because when I dropped the song. 659 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 3: When I dropped that song, everybody mad. I dropped it, 660 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 3: but it sounded totally different from like the regular club 661 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 3: song that I would do. But I thought I always 662 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 3: thought it was dope. So when I dropped it, all 663 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 3: the DJs were like fronting on it, like, oh, but 664 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 3: that don't sound like the regular old TV you know. 665 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 3: Two months later, Beyonce does this wow, you know, and 666 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 3: then it just goes everywhere. 667 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 2: That's unbelievable. Dude. That's a cool story. 668 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: Hey, when we're training and you better come with some 669 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: better material like stories like this, you gotta chime in 670 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: into your part. Believe I've been friends you for six years. 671 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 2: I ever do this. That's unbelievable. Again. 672 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: You and I are man brothers for training partners. We 673 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:17,719 Speaker 1: hit each other in the head quite a bit, but 674 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: we open up to each other a lot. And that's 675 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: what's great about our place. Unbreakable. That's what's great about 676 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: having a fight team and a team is like man, 677 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 1: you you just lean into your brothers and hard times 678 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: and you and I bride each other pretty much, you know, 679 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: And that's just beautiful about what we have. 680 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 2: Over there and unbreakable. 681 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: Tell me just you know, I was talking about mental 682 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 1: this mental wealth, but kind of you know, going and 683 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: building your mental health or your physical health leads more 684 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 1: to mental wealth. What's the since we started training together? 685 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 1: What's training done for you? Mostly physically? 686 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 2: Everything? 687 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 3: I love. I love the training. I love the training. 688 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 3: It's so so important to me. It's so important that 689 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 3: even when I I'll fly do a show and lie 690 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 3: in and fly in, get off the plane, drop my 691 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 3: bags off, brush my teeth, and then go train. You know, 692 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 3: it's it's so addicting, but it's it clears my mind, 693 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 3: super clears my mind. I'm always I'm always ready for 694 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 3: the next step after I train helps me so much emotionally. Obviously, 695 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 3: everybody in there are like great people. You know, I 696 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 3: haven't I haven't been inside the gym where you meet 697 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 3: somebody and you go, damn, that person's asshole. It's me. 698 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 3: That's what that's what the sparn is for. And so 699 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 3: and man, it's just great people. Man, good energy, good 700 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 3: vibes and physically man. Always I'm always right, like I 701 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 3: go to certain places to go damn. We know you 702 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 3: were kind of jacked up like that. 703 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, man, what you like. 704 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 3: Some of the some of the football players that come 705 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 3: in don't break it with like, damn team mane you 706 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 3: could have been a runner back if you did. I'm like, man, 707 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 3: I just you know, I just you know, I always 708 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 3: I'm addicted to it. 709 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 2: You know, people don't know. 710 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: I do have ot train with our football player when 711 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 1: they're in. I have him wrestled with them. I have 712 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: n't go like's far with that, Like he's part of it. 713 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: He's part of the team. 714 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 3: Man. 715 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 1: It's and guys. And again that's the thing. It's like 716 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 1: you lift them up, they left you up. That's the 717 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 1: whole part of having a team. 718 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I and I really get them going. 719 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 3: And I go, I look at them and I'll be like, hey, 720 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 3: don't have a don't have a rapper out work you bro? 721 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 3: You want to really get to him, You want to 722 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 3: really get to him. 723 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 2: Don't have a don't have a rapper out work you bro? 724 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 2: You do though, you you out work pretty much everybody 725 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 2: in there. Right. 726 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: So here, here's my last question, your brother. I ask 727 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: all my guests, give me your unbreakable moment. What I 728 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 1: mean by that, give me the moment that could have 729 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 1: broken you, should have broken you and then't and as 730 00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: a result, you came through the other side of that 731 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 1: tunnel stronger and a breakable. 732 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 3: For m I would say it would probably have to 733 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 3: be like going back and forth to like jail, you know, 734 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 3: like going back and forth doing jail time, trying to 735 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 3: figure things out, having a dream, not having a dream, 736 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 3: but still being a product of your environment. But you 737 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 3: still but you still want this dream. So you know 738 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 3: you're trying to survive where you're coming from and still 739 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,399 Speaker 3: get what you need to get done, you know. And 740 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 3: so it's like, how can I how can I go 741 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,400 Speaker 3: back somewhere so dangerous, but I'm trying to be so 742 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 3: positive and oftentimes I say, like, you know, it's places 743 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 3: that like where I come from, you know, in my 744 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 3: or my old neighborhoods, where it's like it kind of 745 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 3: like forces the forces you to become a monster in 746 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 3: some certain type of way. I don't want to promote that, 747 00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 3: but it's like force you to be a monster in 748 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,319 Speaker 3: some type of way because kind of you know, you're 749 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 3: trying to survive. You're not trying to, you're trying to 750 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 3: It's like you rather be a shark than be fooled, 751 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,919 Speaker 3: you know. But while you're doing that, is there's consequences 752 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 3: for that. So there's consequences for that. But you're like, damn, 753 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 3: Like that's why that was the whole thing where we 754 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 3: say in our neighborhood, like I would rather be judged 755 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 3: by twelve than carried by six. You know. That's that's 756 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,240 Speaker 3: where all that that's where all that comes from. I stayed, 757 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 3: of course, man, and at most times I go you 758 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,759 Speaker 3: know what, let's go this way, or sometimes I'm like, 759 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,799 Speaker 3: you know, I'm gonna be on this side of town 760 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,399 Speaker 3: right now, I'm gonna sure my cousins on this side 761 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,319 Speaker 3: of town. I'm gonna you know, I'm gonna lock in 762 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 3: and make sure I go do this and finess to 763 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,959 Speaker 3: figure my way into just being on the right path 764 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,320 Speaker 3: and not having to put myself around too much of 765 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 3: the you know, danger or anything that will make you 766 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 3: do something, you know what I mean, out of your 767 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 3: character and I just I just stayed the task, man, 768 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 3: and I kept it going. And that's what I think 769 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,439 Speaker 3: I'm probably most proud of. Man. 770 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:01,319 Speaker 2: I'm proud too, Man. 771 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 1: I am proud to call your teammate, proud to call 772 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 1: your brother, and I am proud to call you unbreakable. 773 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 3: Thank you, brother, Thank you brother. 774 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 1: Oh T Genesis, thanks for joining us here on the 775 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 1: Unbreakable Metal Wealth Podcast