Speaker 1: Kesha and the Creepies is a production of I Heart Radio.
Speaker 1: If the Ship, If the mother Ship comes, I'm ready
Speaker 1: for them, Like, please come get me if they get
Speaker 1: you first, would you come and get me to just
Speaker 1: some say men made one more stup? Yeah, I'll do
Speaker 1: the same for you. We have a handshake deal on that. Say,
Speaker 1: motherfucking hare hello and welcome to my podcast. Thank you
Speaker 1: for doing this, well, thank you for having me. That's
Speaker 1: first of all. That's it's a great little introduction or
Speaker 1: Sammy motherfucker guard damning, except here it's too early. Come on.
Speaker 1: I kind of wanted to jump off with just I've
Speaker 1: heard the story about you having an abduction, correct, that's
Speaker 1: what you call it. Well, you know, I wasn't abducted
Speaker 1: to where I went for I you know, like like
Speaker 1: Bill and Barney Hill or whatever that that lady uh
Speaker 1: in the in the fifties. It actually went out and
Speaker 1: told us how the universe looks from out there and
Speaker 1: all this stuff. I already got goose bumps. Look, I'm
Speaker 1: already fucked. But I didn't get abducted. But I was, Um,
Speaker 1: it's sixty eight. I was laying in bed and I
Speaker 1: was you know, I was sleeping, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: I felt like something was going on. I come, was
Speaker 1: gonna wake up. And then I had this. I could
Speaker 1: see these guys sitting It's thirteen miles away, you know,
Speaker 1: exactly where they were sitting, you know, and all this stuff,
Speaker 1: the relative to my hometown, and uh, I just went,
Speaker 1: what's going on? And they started saying, you know, it
Speaker 1: was all te lepthy. No one's saying anything. So I
Speaker 1: didn't go for the ride. But I was plugged into
Speaker 1: something and it was wireless and you know, way before
Speaker 1: wireless and remote control and all the things. And they said, hey,
Speaker 1: he's waking up, and uh we gotta, you know, get
Speaker 1: out of here, and not get out of here. But
Speaker 1: you know, like he's he's he's wise to this. But
Speaker 1: it wasn't like that. It's just so unusual. I can
Speaker 1: hardly explain it today and could never explain it properly.
Speaker 1: But I was being either programmed or they were uploading
Speaker 1: what I knew. Not because I was some special guy.
Speaker 1: I was just some dumb kid, but just you know,
Speaker 1: like an experiment, like you know, I was just some
Speaker 1: creature that they're saying. I checked this guy out and
Speaker 1: but I caught it and it was bad ass freaking out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because at the time, I never thought anything about the universe.
Speaker 1: I never thought about you know. My only religious experience
Speaker 1: was going to Catholic church and oh, God, whatever that is,
Speaker 1: you know, the devil, whatever that is. So I had
Speaker 1: no psychic phenomenon, just nothing. It was just like, you know,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, I was awake. I
Speaker 1: was saying, oh, no, something's going on here. There's people
Speaker 1: out there. I was looking at the sky. I became
Speaker 1: an astronomer, not astrologer. I became an astronomer. I got
Speaker 1: a telescope. I just started reading up on all that. So,
Speaker 1: I mean I became a nut from that day on. Well,
Speaker 1: I've been a nut, I think since day one, because
Speaker 1: I've just my mom was like, she majored in astrology,
Speaker 1: and I think it was like weird growing or something.
Speaker 1: She went to a college that was in real college,
Speaker 1: and so pretty much since I can remember, it's just
Speaker 1: been she writes music and tells me about like whose
Speaker 1: sign will go good with my sign? And there are
Speaker 1: just mercuries and retrograde for their signs and blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: So it's been like a very natural part of my life.
Speaker 1: It's always been there. And she likes to call herself
Speaker 1: a psychic. She's pretty psychic sometimes, but then sometimes she's
Speaker 1: super not. But I've always been fascinated with the unexplainable
Speaker 1: or things that are hard to put into words, because
Speaker 1: that's the most exciting part of life, is when you
Speaker 1: experience something like this, We're like, I can barely explain it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I still can't explain it. I mean, I'm a firm believer.
Speaker 1: I mean, this ship happened. It was not like some dream.
Speaker 1: No no, no, no. I woke up from the dream.
Speaker 1: My whole room was pure white and I couldn't move,
Speaker 1: and then you know, I mean like infinity, you know, white,
Speaker 1: and then I'll bam. It was pitch black is in
Speaker 1: the middle of the night, and I laid there shaken,
Speaker 1: and I couldn't even hardly get my body back together
Speaker 1: for about a minute or two to actually get up
Speaker 1: at a bit, I was still kind of in a
Speaker 1: like I was locked down. It was. It was. It
Speaker 1: was really badass looking back now, but at the time,
Speaker 1: because I wasn't interested and could care less about any
Speaker 1: of that stuff. I've never seen a ghost or anything.
Speaker 1: It was. It was shocking and scary, but now it
Speaker 1: wouldn't be. I mean I would be like chasing him,
Speaker 1: get my car and go after him to I'm going
Speaker 1: to ross Well next week just because, and then to
Speaker 1: look at the lights, like that's what I do for
Speaker 1: fun in my spare time, I go chasing the aliens.
Speaker 1: Well I thought you played music for fun? Well that too,
Speaker 1: but you know, but like all beyond the tour bus
Speaker 1: and make us all stop at some like haunted worehouse
Speaker 1: and sleep there instead of like the fancy w down
Speaker 1: the street. And I'm like, no, no, we have to
Speaker 1: stay at the haunted hotel, Like well, what sign are
Speaker 1: you cashing? What signed? We gotta get this out of
Speaker 1: the way. Let's it all the way. I'm a Pisces,
Speaker 1: what are you? Oh? Well, of course then you are
Speaker 1: psychic and all that stuff. I have a Pisces rising.
Speaker 1: I'm a lever with the Pisces rising. But yeahs and
Speaker 1: Scorpios libras. Yeah, I have like a pretty good relationship
Speaker 1: with everybody except for male scorpios. We love them, yeah scorpios.
Speaker 1: I was married to a scorpio for twenties six years,
Speaker 1: a scorpiola. So yeah, they're they're they're freaky people, but
Speaker 1: they they they're pretty sensitive. Man, they get this stuff.
Speaker 1: They're sensitive, but then they sting you. Yeah, well, I
Speaker 1: gotta be careful, especially at Pisces, because Pisces aren't careful,
Speaker 1: oh my god, careful about anything, but like the most
Speaker 1: emotional creature on the Yeah, I know, yeah, no, I
Speaker 1: love it. I've got more Pisces friends, funny than anything.
Speaker 1: But anyway, so what I mean, what do you think?
Speaker 1: I'm not asking you, it's my interview. You've gone. So,
Speaker 1: but where do you think these creatures are coming from? See,
Speaker 1: I believe there's more than one. There's there's robots, there's
Speaker 1: all kinds of different things going on in dimensions. Were
Speaker 1: robots for sure. And I even have a friend, this
Speaker 1: comedian Whitney Comming. She has a robot that is made
Speaker 1: in her likeness that she takes around with her just
Speaker 1: to make people uncomfortable. So, like, they're definitely robots. They're
Speaker 1: getting slightly better. I think as like time goes aliens,
Speaker 1: I'm still a little confused about it. But to me,
Speaker 1: I think aliens might just be us in the future.
Speaker 1: So your story is that you could have been downloading
Speaker 1: your new body because you're a clone, just throwing that
Speaker 1: one out there. Well, I became a different guy, I
Speaker 1: can tell you that much right now. At that time,
Speaker 1: I was looking for a good paper out or something,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And I was playing music,
Speaker 1: but I hadn't really written songs, you know. I was
Speaker 1: just playing music, learning that play guitar, playing with my buddies,
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, twenty years old, trying to get
Speaker 1: a club job or something. I could sing songs. But
Speaker 1: once that happened, I just man, I I was just
Speaker 1: on a quest to learn what God was and where
Speaker 1: these guys came from, and uh, what else was going
Speaker 1: on out there? And I started writing songs. You know.
Speaker 1: My first songs were like, uh, a song called silver Lights,
Speaker 1: which is about the second coming of Jesus but coming
Speaker 1: in um uh spaceships, you know what I mean. I
Speaker 1: used to really believe that. I'm I don't know if
Speaker 1: I don't believe it now, but if there if something
Speaker 1: like that happened. But anyway, then I just started getting
Speaker 1: into the dimensions, started reading old Spinsky things like that,
Speaker 1: which things I would have never even thought of it
Speaker 1: any time in my life. I mean, it changed my
Speaker 1: life completely. From that day on, I just went who
Speaker 1: I was just a complete new guy and I was
Speaker 1: on a quest and I still am. But yeah, it's
Speaker 1: you know, at my age, I kind of feel like, damn,
Speaker 1: you know, it's been a long time. I'd like to
Speaker 1: have another experience if I could, you know, something re
Speaker 1: enlightened me. You know what I've had like because of
Speaker 1: this podcast is like kind of a segue for me
Speaker 1: to talk to people I love, people I admire, and
Speaker 1: people that fascinate me about whatever the funk we want
Speaker 1: to talk about. That's what this is, right, and especially
Speaker 1: anything magical, unexplainable, weird, creepy, just kind of whatever. It's
Speaker 1: a seguated for me and you to bullshit about some
Speaker 1: weird ship. So that can go from like what's the
Speaker 1: weirdest tour experience you've ever had? To what's the most
Speaker 1: unexplainable thing? To this experience you had with aliens. I
Speaker 1: have like a couple of like kind of tactile questions.
Speaker 1: How did you know it was? Did you see physically
Speaker 1: see a person and or being or you just felt it? No,
Speaker 1: I saw it. I saw it in my head. I
Speaker 1: could see where they were. We were totally plugged in.
Speaker 1: It was like what we're doing right now? I can
Speaker 1: see you, you can see me. And it was they
Speaker 1: were just in this little craft. It was like a
Speaker 1: you know, flying damn saucer, you know, the oval shape
Speaker 1: and all that. And they were just sitting on this
Speaker 1: mountain right where I used to go camping and with
Speaker 1: my friends and you know, we'd hang out up there
Speaker 1: in this mountain, go up there and you know, drink
Speaker 1: and stuff, you know when uh in party. And they
Speaker 1: were up there about thirteen miles away, like I said,
Speaker 1: and they could see them away from you where you were,
Speaker 1: and you can see them that far, or they had
Speaker 1: taken you over to the it's where I was. I
Speaker 1: was in bed in this house and they were up
Speaker 1: there on that mountain, but remotely. It was like we
Speaker 1: were connected. They had a wire. It was not a
Speaker 1: hard wire, but they had a circuit that was in me.
Speaker 1: And when they they they haullered out a numerical code
Speaker 1: and they said, always waking up. We got to end this.
Speaker 1: And it was like a numerical call that I never
Speaker 1: heard before, none of our numbers. But it was like
Speaker 1: you know a numbers like nine seven four. Things in
Speaker 1: the w C went went, and it went well. And
Speaker 1: this thing was just like a line that just was leaving.
Speaker 1: I could feel it leaving and see it leaving, and
Speaker 1: and then it just went, Like I said, white, they
Speaker 1: were gone. I couldn't see him anymore. We were disconnected.
Speaker 1: But while we were connected to see I could see them,
Speaker 1: and they could see me. I guess they could see me,
Speaker 1: but I could see them, but not clear. They were
Speaker 1: just kind of back lit. Remember that Science programming, those
Speaker 1: two cartoon guys would analyze movies, you know from the back.
Speaker 1: It was. Yeah, it was like two guys sitting there
Speaker 1: doing that, you know, talking about me and behind the panel.
Speaker 1: And but they weren't shaped like that. They didn't have
Speaker 1: those silly wires coming off, and they were just kind
Speaker 1: of blobs, kind of like you know you always see
Speaker 1: the pictures of the aliens, you know, with the eyes
Speaker 1: and stuff. Wouldn't I couldn't see features like that. It
Speaker 1: was kind of dark. They were. It was just like that.
Speaker 1: I mean, and I've never even thought of anything like this,
Speaker 1: you know this. That's why it was so devastatingly cataclysmic
Speaker 1: to me. I just became whoa you know what, And
Speaker 1: I mean it's opened my mind up. And nobody around
Speaker 1: me was down with it. I try to talk to
Speaker 1: anybody about it. No, no, no, what was people think?
Speaker 1: At least they thought I was high. You know, I
Speaker 1: had never done drugs. I wasn't even Oh no, I
Speaker 1: wasn't even smoking weed or drinking at that time. I
Speaker 1: started doing that later. But there was a psychic lady
Speaker 1: that I finally went to see named miss Kellerman. And
Speaker 1: Cameron Crow knows who she is, and he called me
Speaker 1: when he read my book and said, oh my god,
Speaker 1: you saw miss Keller and my mom's friend. She was
Speaker 1: the best psychic ever. And I said, I know. I
Speaker 1: went to see her, and man, she she set me
Speaker 1: off on a path and it was I just became
Speaker 1: abduction moment kind of set you on the spiritual path
Speaker 1: and it led you to um miseran. Yeah, miss Kellerman,
Speaker 1: is she still alive? No, this is listen. I'm old
Speaker 1: first causae, so I don't know. I was about twenty
Speaker 1: nineteen or twenty, about nineteen or twenty. It was sixty
Speaker 1: seven sixty eight, right at late sixties, five years before
Speaker 1: I finally, you know, made it with Montrose it started playing.
Speaker 1: But I don't know. It's hard to explain about what
Speaker 1: that did. But but my big quest is since I
Speaker 1: met people like there's a guy named Ralph Blum who
Speaker 1: wrote this book called Project Blue Book. And I was
Speaker 1: sitting in a hotel room in seventy but I heard
Speaker 1: it's really good. That's about when it Charlie and Calvin
Speaker 1: um Parker from Passagoulia, Mississippi. The two guys that were
Speaker 1: fishing on a dock catfishing and these guys came and
Speaker 1: got him and they and they scared him. One guy
Speaker 1: committed suicide. He was he went crazy. These are good
Speaker 1: old boys and miss passes Sculia, Mississippi. Well, this guy,
Speaker 1: Ralph Blum had just interviewed them for Project blue Book,
Speaker 1: which he was given the okay for the government. And
Speaker 1: I'm sitting in a hotel room in Montrose on my
Speaker 1: first tour and seventy three and he walks by my
Speaker 1: room and my doors open. He goes, hey, how you doing.
Speaker 1: I said good? You know can what can I do
Speaker 1: for you? And he's going, you got many you believe
Speaker 1: in UFOs? And I said yeah, And he says, I
Speaker 1: want to talk about it, and I said, sure, ivided
Speaker 1: him in. We spent four hours, you know, out of
Speaker 1: the blue, just coincidence holiday, and he tells me about
Speaker 1: all this stuff, and he said, these guys weren't lying.
Speaker 1: He said, these guys I interviewed him right after it happened,
Speaker 1: they were shaking, They were scared, he does. But I
Speaker 1: figured out later that they were robots. These are like
Speaker 1: robots that they can just put out in outer space
Speaker 1: and they can download information and they and they, you know,
Speaker 1: they're rough with you. You know, they stick needles in you,
Speaker 1: and you know, you know, they stick tubes down your
Speaker 1: throat and things. Yeah, the robots are are aliens there
Speaker 1: in spaceships. Think, but do you think aliens are all
Speaker 1: robots or you think some of them are robots. I
Speaker 1: think there's all kinds of stuff going on out there,
Speaker 1: and these guys just cruise around the universe and they
Speaker 1: can't be here at their robots they live forever and
Speaker 1: they just send information back. I guess because they examined
Speaker 1: these guys. They laid him flat out in the middle
Speaker 1: of a their ship. They took him on the ship, supposedly,
Speaker 1: and and they they weren't even on a bench or anything.
Speaker 1: They were just flat out in mid air and probed
Speaker 1: them all to death, and then they sent them back.
Speaker 1: And these guys were crying on TV. I saw him
Speaker 1: on Dick Habit or something and the one guy was
Speaker 1: breaking down crying trying to talk about it. So, I mean,
Speaker 1: it was stone ass real and I'm sitting there going, yes,
Speaker 1: this is real, and people are laughing in the audience
Speaker 1: and stuff. Project Blue Book is an early book on it.
Speaker 1: But there hasn't been much new stuff for me that
Speaker 1: you know, you watch the UFO channel and all this stuff.
Speaker 1: It's always the same stuff. It's always about those aliens
Speaker 1: and Roswell, which I believe they're they're get out of here.
Speaker 1: Of course they're there him going there in a week.
Speaker 1: I'm going to go say hell to him, but you
Speaker 1: ain't gonna see him. They won't let you. I know. Well,
Speaker 1: that's the thing is that I've seen lights in the
Speaker 1: sky because of my song TikTok. Everyone thinks I'm always
Speaker 1: drunk and high, which is not, in fact, always drunk
Speaker 1: and hy but totally sober. Setting up a tent and
Speaker 1: look up and there's this formation of these burning fire
Speaker 1: lights in the sky, and I was like, oh, that's
Speaker 1: so weird. And then I didn't really think much about it,
Speaker 1: which is also really weird because usually I'm so obsessed
Speaker 1: with this kind of ship that like, I didn't take
Speaker 1: any pictures, I didn't call my mom, who fully thinks
Speaker 1: she's an alien. Like, it was just so weird, how calm,
Speaker 1: it wasn't very like, Okay, there it is. And then
Speaker 1: came back in a different formation. And it was the
Speaker 1: strangest thing because I've also had an experience with a ghost.
Speaker 1: It was that same feeling of oh, I like read
Speaker 1: about this and I watched things about it. It's so exciting,
Speaker 1: but when it's actually happening to me, it's just beyond
Speaker 1: natural feeling. Yeah, ghosts are freaky. They're different than UFOs
Speaker 1: aliens coming from not from other planets, but from somewhere
Speaker 1: in the universe or somewhere in our galaxy, um, not
Speaker 1: our solar system. I don't believe there's life on Mars.
Speaker 1: I mean there could be, you know, microscopic life and
Speaker 1: stuff like that, but they're not coming from there. But
Speaker 1: the ghosts now them suckers. That is the craziest one.
Speaker 1: Because I've had two unbelievable ghost experiences ones with my father,
Speaker 1: who when I was twenty one shortly out. Not that
Speaker 1: long after that deal, I had just gotten married, I
Speaker 1: had a brand new baby. I'm living in San Francisco
Speaker 1: in an apartment one one room. My father, who was
Speaker 1: a bad alcoholic who had been a street person for
Speaker 1: the last five or six years, hadn't seen him for
Speaker 1: a while. He beats on my door. I'm telling my
Speaker 1: fresh new wife said, Wow, somebody's beating on the door.
Speaker 1: I go open up the door in my dream and
Speaker 1: it's my dad. He's like the same age as me.
Speaker 1: It's like in his twenties, and he's drunk, and he's
Speaker 1: screaming great davidy Irish and on. I said, Dad, get
Speaker 1: the hell out here. Don't ever come here, you know,
Speaker 1: like that scared my little baby. And I went back
Speaker 1: to bed and my wife says, who is that? And
Speaker 1: I said, oh, it's my dad, you know, not like
Speaker 1: weird that he was young. It was in my dream,
Speaker 1: I guess, because I thought it was all cool, it's
Speaker 1: really my dad. And then all of a sudden, I
Speaker 1: go to lay back down in the bed and it's
Speaker 1: exactly where I am. It's not like I'm in some
Speaker 1: weird place like dreams are. No. I was right where
Speaker 1: I was and the door knoxygen. I said, damn it,
Speaker 1: like I sa him again, I'm gonna go, you know,
Speaker 1: really let him have it. This time. I opened the
Speaker 1: door to my next door neighbor who had the phone,
Speaker 1: who was my manager. I had a little band and
Speaker 1: I moved to San Francisco, and he goes, hey, your
Speaker 1: sister's on the phone, and I went, well, my sister said,
Speaker 1: Dad died. You know, it's four o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 1: My sister just found out they had found him in
Speaker 1: a in a park and uh, on a park bench,
Speaker 1: and and it's horrible, but that was back to back.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like a day later, a week later. It
Speaker 1: was right at the time. My sister would called me
Speaker 1: within minutes after that experience happened. And she was the
Speaker 1: first one they let know because she lived in the
Speaker 1: hometown in his you know, our hometown. And that was
Speaker 1: just so real that I can't tell you how that
Speaker 1: could happen. I've asked, so I could hear. My goose
Speaker 1: bumps were up again. I've asked every sec I've ever met.
Speaker 1: They said, well, we've heard of that. That happens once
Speaker 1: a while, and they you know, they as they're crossing over,
Speaker 1: they'll come and visit someone and uh, and it's usually
Speaker 1: like in a younger state, you know, it's and he
Speaker 1: was physically younger looking when the door. You didn't think
Speaker 1: anything of it. No, I didn't even know him when
Speaker 1: he was at young, you know, I was. I was
Speaker 1: older when when he had me. I was the youngest
Speaker 1: of four kids, so he was even younger than when
Speaker 1: I knew him. But it was just it wasn't weird
Speaker 1: to me at all. It was And all I can
Speaker 1: ever think about is why didn't I let him in?
Speaker 1: You know? What if I did let him in? You
Speaker 1: know what I mean, like, oh, shoot, I'm sitting here,
Speaker 1: Like I said, I can't. Can you see these things?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to go. I'm gonna have to go
Speaker 1: see my dermatologist. He gets stuck, it's removed. I think
Speaker 1: that when I get goose bumps, I feel like telling
Speaker 1: me that there's like you're speaking truth. Oh so true
Speaker 1: right now. I just they won't go away, by the way,
Speaker 1: they Jamie looking my hairs. But what if I to
Speaker 1: let him in? Cash You don't I mean, don't you
Speaker 1: think that that it would have been like what Wow,
Speaker 1: wonder what would have happened? Well, we all wonder, like
Speaker 1: what if? To me, it sounds like he was giving
Speaker 1: you his Irish goodbye. It's like last came to you
Speaker 1: because obvious, so you were important to him and to
Speaker 1: me it brings Obviously, when anybody passes away, it's horrible
Speaker 1: and sad and very hard to reconcile with. But I
Speaker 1: do very much believe there is something. Whether it's a dimension,
Speaker 1: whether it's an afterlife. I don't know what it is.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I don't know, but I have had
Speaker 1: interactions with things that are unnatural and unexplainable that I know.
Speaker 1: I'm not alone. I know I have whether you want
Speaker 1: to call it angels or souls or just people around
Speaker 1: me that I can't see. I know that's real. I
Speaker 1: know it in my soul. So maybe it was his way.
Speaker 1: I'm the kind of person where I got to see
Speaker 1: it to believe it. I don't know if you're that way,
Speaker 1: but maybe it was like he's got to see it
Speaker 1: to believe it kind of moment in your life, Oh
Speaker 1: that was you gotta you would have to, I mean,
Speaker 1: you can't even imagine how I felt because I thought
Speaker 1: it had happened, and then I thought it was a dream,
Speaker 1: and then then I knew that it had happened. It
Speaker 1: was just as using as a UFOL experience. But now
Speaker 1: I love that stuff, and that to me was just
Speaker 1: like I felt so sorry that I didn't invite him in.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like I'm just that cheese. I wonder
Speaker 1: if that could have happened and I could have had
Speaker 1: a communication and sat down and you know, had coffee.
Speaker 1: But but it was just it's just unexplainable, you know.
Speaker 1: To me, that's kind of stuff and I don't know dimensions.
Speaker 1: It's gotta be dimensions and things like that, because it
Speaker 1: wasn't a physical thing, but it was half physical, you know,
Speaker 1: because I got up. I actually opened the door twice.
Speaker 1: I think, I guess, so I believe that you did.
Speaker 1: I even have started reading about last night because I
Speaker 1: was reading about your experiences and just talking to a
Speaker 1: friend of mine that actually Alice Cooper's daughter is like
Speaker 1: one of my best friends, and I was like, do
Speaker 1: you know anything about Sammy Hagar? So that we called
Speaker 1: Uncle Alice, and Uncle Alice was just shooting the ship
Speaker 1: with us about you. And then long story short, yesterday
Speaker 1: was Sammy Hagar Day. Listen. I love the Cooper were
Speaker 1: Alice attracts that weirdness and I I've never even had
Speaker 1: a conversation with Alice like about this kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: You know, most that he said he said that you
Speaker 1: guys are just like rock dudes and rock and roll
Speaker 1: and you never spoken about this, but I think you
Speaker 1: have a shared sense because he was on the podcast
Speaker 1: and talking about his experiences and he's had some crazy
Speaker 1: experiences too. Yeah, I know Alice, he's been through some stuff.
Speaker 1: He's been he went clear to the dark side himself.
Speaker 1: You know, he can probably have some stories in there.
Speaker 1: But you know, I just think that the dimensional thing,
Speaker 1: there's a there's a philosopher named P. D. O. Spinsky
Speaker 1: and Ospensky wrote about dimensions, and you know, we are
Speaker 1: three dimensional creatures with a fourth dimensional sense, which the
Speaker 1: fourth dimensions, we can see the future a little bit.
Speaker 1: Like you can sit here and think, oh, I was
Speaker 1: on a uh in that car yesterday. You can remember
Speaker 1: where you were or where you need to go later.
Speaker 1: That's like kind of fourth dimensional psychist kind of hang
Speaker 1: out in that area a lot more and that's fourth dimensional,
Speaker 1: and O Spensey claimed that fifth dimensional you can walk
Speaker 1: through physical walls like that's like Jesus and you know
Speaker 1: the Master's Buddha and those guys that witnessed things where
Speaker 1: these gurus would would be able to manifest saying say, oh,
Speaker 1: would you like an apple boom? Here's one you know
Speaker 1: in the middle of nowhere. Here you have rings too small, Well,
Speaker 1: let me make it bigger for you. Touch it and
Speaker 1: put it on your finger. Uh, that's fifth dimensional stuff.
Speaker 1: And Ospensky didn't get much farther than the fifty dimension
Speaker 1: where he thought he really had it down. Einstein was
Speaker 1: reading his book Toreach an Organ and when he died,
Speaker 1: it was open on his desk. If you saw a
Speaker 1: picture of Einstein's desk, which I saw, not I wasn't there.
Speaker 1: I saw a picture. I don't know what you're talking about. Okay.
Speaker 1: So the point is, as I started getting more into
Speaker 1: the UFO stuff and and talking to the psychics and
Speaker 1: people that know it, Supposedly, the ninth dimension is what
Speaker 1: God is to us, what we can all we can comprehend.
Speaker 1: We cannot go past the ninth dimension and number. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I read that that like nine is your that's your number. Well,
Speaker 1: it's a weird tripping number does things. It is a
Speaker 1: dripping number. I mean you turn it upside down, there's
Speaker 1: the devil times over. But like, I definitely want to
Speaker 1: hear about the numerology thing. So tell me about nine.
Speaker 1: When I discovered nine, then I started. I named my
Speaker 1: publishing company nine Music. I had a band called the Nine,
Speaker 1: you know, early on when I was first starting when
Speaker 1: all this, when I first got you know, non abductive
Speaker 1: but contacted by aliens. If you add nine to any number,
Speaker 1: nine and three is twelve, two and one is three.
Speaker 1: When you take it down to the single digit again,
Speaker 1: nine disappears. If you add it to anything, you could
Speaker 1: add nine to one million, seven and twenty seven seven
Speaker 1: to come down to one digit, the nine will disappear.
Speaker 1: You multiply nine and it will never go away. Three
Speaker 1: nines and twenty seven seven in two is nine, six
Speaker 1: nines or fifty four or five and four is nine.
Speaker 1: It's the freakiest thing. So if you see a bunch
Speaker 1: of nines and you're trying to get to the last digit,
Speaker 1: you know, and you just add up the four and
Speaker 1: fins and nine, throw it out don't even bother, so
Speaker 1: it's a three and people go, well, that guy's a
Speaker 1: fucking genius, you know. But it just get rid of
Speaker 1: the nines and anything that adds up to nine if
Speaker 1: you're adding, and you can throw it out and you
Speaker 1: can take a block of numbers and come down with
Speaker 1: the single digit in the bottom like in ten seconds
Speaker 1: if you're if you really know how to do this stuff,
Speaker 1: do you multiply nine times anything and it becomes a
Speaker 1: nine again when you get down to the last digit.
Speaker 1: It's freaky as ship. And I'm not that good at
Speaker 1: it in my head, but I'm telling you that it works.
Speaker 1: You can do it like you know, nine times anything
Speaker 1: five nine, five, five and four, nine, three, nine seven
Speaker 1: two is nine eight nines or one eight and ones
Speaker 1: nine again. It will not go away. It stays forever
Speaker 1: in multiplication. And supposedly the reason that is it's the
Speaker 1: cap it's the end of the of our dimensional thing,
Speaker 1: and it's these numerology I mean, these mathematical geniuses in
Speaker 1: our time have come up with all these little fun
Speaker 1: little tricks and that's how they figure out ship. Though
Speaker 1: you know, like how far things are and how quick
Speaker 1: you can do things and what the you know, lightspeed,
Speaker 1: But but that's the ninth you mention is supposed to
Speaker 1: be God. So if we funk around with that consciousness,
Speaker 1: supposedly with the computer, you that God is almost like
Speaker 1: a computer. This is just theories I've heard. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I believe this or not. But
Speaker 1: the u UFO I'm like super curious about because I
Speaker 1: feel like technology is one of those things that can
Speaker 1: serve the Earth and the planet and all of us
Speaker 1: in a really positive way as I get to talk
Speaker 1: to you about really interesting, spiritual, enlightening shit, and but
Speaker 1: then it also can be a really negative, hateful place
Speaker 1: where there's false information spread and people can be total cunts.
Speaker 1: So I think that there's a light in a dark
Speaker 1: to everything. So I find myself reluctant to be overly
Speaker 1: just joyous about technology because I know that there are
Speaker 1: some really good people and then there are some people
Speaker 1: that are not so good, and usually it's from going
Speaker 1: through traumatic things or whatever. They're different reasons why people
Speaker 1: make poor choices. But I just get nervous with technology
Speaker 1: because as we go ahead, it's maybe because it's the
Speaker 1: fear of the unknown, but technology I do think is
Speaker 1: a portal to something if in the right hands. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it can be such a connector. I'm with you that
Speaker 1: the whole social aspect that it's ruined. It kind of
Speaker 1: makes us in unsoulful and organic something about that technology
Speaker 1: is taking a lot of that away from us and
Speaker 1: leaving us just thinking. And everything's quick, and you know,
Speaker 1: people are just sniping behind computers and stuff. But but
Speaker 1: there's some knowledge there that we can get somehow. I
Speaker 1: think about what life is really all about, and I
Speaker 1: hope it's good information. And I hope the answer we get.
Speaker 1: I just hope it isn't no, no God, just a computer. No,
Speaker 1: you guys, just some dumbass thought. You know for one
Speaker 1: second on this. I mean, some people have laid that
Speaker 1: stuff on me. I hear so many theories. When I
Speaker 1: try to talk about this with anyone, I it confused quick,
Speaker 1: because you know, I just have my experiences and the
Speaker 1: things that I feel and believe. And I know there's dimensions,
Speaker 1: and I know there's ghosts, and I know there's UFOs,
Speaker 1: but I don't know what it all means. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I heard that they can't interfere with us. A ghost
Speaker 1: you can say, get out of here, and that's my
Speaker 1: life space. I have life force. They want your life force.
Speaker 1: They want to come in and live again through you,
Speaker 1: and they can do it if you let them. I've
Speaker 1: heard you've got to be careful with that. And I
Speaker 1: heard that the UFO guys as well, uh, that they
Speaker 1: can't interfere. They can't stop you from dropping the bomb,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. They can't stop you from
Speaker 1: having your warfare. You know they they're not It's illegal
Speaker 1: in the universe to let it. It's almost like when
Speaker 1: you're you're a photographer or filming nature, where you're not
Speaker 1: allowed to interfere, like even if you're like the shark
Speaker 1: is getting eaten by or is going to eat some
Speaker 1: sweet cute looking thing, like when you're filming nature, you're
Speaker 1: not supposed to interfere. I sometimes wonder if the aliens
Speaker 1: are like that with us, where it's like what I've heard,
Speaker 1: they're blowing each other up, but we can't interfere. They're
Speaker 1: just looking at watching closely. Because you know, the balance
Speaker 1: of the universe. I guess you know, it's just like
Speaker 1: the ecology. It's it's you know, if something gets out
Speaker 1: of balance, Uh, I guess it messes with the whole
Speaker 1: big picture on the road to God, you know, whatever
Speaker 1: that ninth dimension holds. So I'm so curious about the
Speaker 1: fifth or the sixth, seventh, and eighth, and ninth dimensions too.
Speaker 1: Like I was reading. There's a book I was reading
Speaker 1: called A Short History of Everything. I believe that's what's
Speaker 1: called Bill Bryson. Anyways, he was saying, and I probably
Speaker 1: misquoting this, so this is not factual information, but there
Speaker 1: was something like proven twelve dimensions and infinite. So how
Speaker 1: do we even like reconcile that in our brains. We can't.
Speaker 1: I don't even know. We're only capable of comprehending the
Speaker 1: fourth dimension, which is psychic. You know, we can say
Speaker 1: I know I have to be someplace tomorrow and I
Speaker 1: can see it in my head. I know where I'm going.
Speaker 1: That's like fourth dimensional ship. It don't exist. I mean,
Speaker 1: who knows if it's even there right now. You know,
Speaker 1: you're we're talking about things, and but until you get there,
Speaker 1: then it is there. But that's fourth dimensional stuff. That's,
Speaker 1: like I said, a psychic Like if you're sitting there
Speaker 1: watching a train and there's a train track and there's
Speaker 1: a train come in both directions. If you didn't have
Speaker 1: any communication and they didn't know, you can rise above
Speaker 1: and look down and go, oh, they're gonna crash. That's
Speaker 1: a psychic, he's going they say, how did you know?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, It's like, it's that it's
Speaker 1: that primitive sometimes what they tell psychics tell me, and
Speaker 1: so it's like, that's that's the end of our our deal.
Speaker 1: At the fifth dimension, I'm trying to figure out how
Speaker 1: to walk through the wall. I can't tell you how
Speaker 1: to do that, but I guess some people have been
Speaker 1: enlightened on this planet, some spiritual people, like supposed Jesus,
Speaker 1: not Buddha, but Buddha witnessed that. When you read about
Speaker 1: Buddha and Yoga and yogan and it talks about seeing
Speaker 1: these guys. This guy they kept putting in jail and
Speaker 1: he'd end up on a roof naked and then say, hey, man,
Speaker 1: how do you get out of jail? It was just
Speaker 1: some guy that just had the gift, you know, like
Speaker 1: like the Dalai Lama, you know that that's able to
Speaker 1: feel and do things. But anyway, that fifty minsional thing,
Speaker 1: I don't think we're capable. So you start getting into
Speaker 1: twelve dimensions, don't ask me, Man, you're gonna have to
Speaker 1: figure that one out for yourself. But I want you
Speaker 1: to call me now. And I'm still kind of getting
Speaker 1: used to like having a physical form, like I swear
Speaker 1: to God, I'm so used to being some sort of
Speaker 1: floating soul creature that like all sometimes look in the
Speaker 1: mirror and be like, oh, yeah, you look like that,
Speaker 1: and you're a girl. So weird because I feel like,
Speaker 1: truly in my soul. I know this sounds fucking nuts,
Speaker 1: but like in my soul of soul, since I was
Speaker 1: a little kid, I felt like I was like a
Speaker 1: blue tiger that could fly. That's my soul. I don't
Speaker 1: think you're crazy, cash, listen. I don't think you're crazy.
Speaker 1: But that's funny. Like that's like if I looked in
Speaker 1: the mirror and saw that, I'd be like, oh, there
Speaker 1: you are perfect. I love looking at myself in a mirror,
Speaker 1: straight in my eyes and for as long as I can,
Speaker 1: and just and and all of a sudden, I start
Speaker 1: smiling and laughing so hard, and you know, people think
Speaker 1: I'm crazy. My wife, you know, she's going I'm saying, no, honey,
Speaker 1: it's not an ego trip. No, I'm not a narcissist.
Speaker 1: I'm not, you know, looking at myself, saying, oh, how
Speaker 1: do I look? You know, I'm I'm just looking at
Speaker 1: myself and and you can see, man, when you get
Speaker 1: a glimpse, like, I think it's what you're talking about,
Speaker 1: when you just feel you just everything goes away and
Speaker 1: just see your own self and your eyes and your
Speaker 1: eyes are smiling at you, and you're just oh God,
Speaker 1: I just I could do that for long periods of time,
Speaker 1: and I just feel like it's like the form that
Speaker 1: I've taken. I'm such a goofy motherfucker that I'm like,
Speaker 1: it's just got to be funny. You have to find
Speaker 1: humor in all of this or we're so I just
Speaker 1: have to. That's why I paint myself with like glitter
Speaker 1: and wear stupid ships, because like, come on, you're doing
Speaker 1: pretty good. You're entertaining this. You're entertaining because you keep
Speaker 1: doing all that stuff. We love you. I do think.
Speaker 1: I do think, like when you were saying that like
Speaker 1: ghosts or entities as a performer when you're performing, I've
Speaker 1: been told that you were projecting your energy so far,
Speaker 1: and I assume you're like me from what I've seen
Speaker 1: of you on stage and just talking to you. Now,
Speaker 1: it's like I try to reach the corners of the
Speaker 1: room with my energy. Like I know that people in
Speaker 1: the very back seat. I'm like, I want you to
Speaker 1: feel this as much as the person the very front.
Speaker 1: So I just like go so hard. Apparently when you
Speaker 1: project your energy that hard that you're opening up the
Speaker 1: almost like the aura. It's just so big that you're
Speaker 1: opening it up to so much energy. And then when
Speaker 1: you go backstage and you take a shower and you
Speaker 1: kind of like come back down to earth, that you
Speaker 1: then may have all these entities that kind to cling
Speaker 1: onto your your energy. And I believe that. I believe it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've felt that before. And you can get sick. I
Speaker 1: had a psychic tell me that I have to be
Speaker 1: careful because when I go out on stage and I
Speaker 1: open myself up to the end of the room, Like
Speaker 1: could you say that you can actually get sick, not
Speaker 1: like die sick, but I mean if somebody's you can
Speaker 1: get a coal you come back and you're more susceptible
Speaker 1: because you've opened yourself up in any entity germs or physical,
Speaker 1: you know, spiritual can come in and and you know
Speaker 1: have a little a little bite of you. You know,
Speaker 1: totally they feed off of you, like like the negative
Speaker 1: super negative. I think that's one of the reasons I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm into technology existing, I just don't know my participation
Speaker 1: with it directly because it can be so hurtful. Is
Speaker 1: because it can be very parasitic, like people can latch
Speaker 1: onto you and like really just suck the life out
Speaker 1: of you. But then other people are such life givers
Speaker 1: and can make you feel so much more alive and
Speaker 1: so excited to be alive, and so much more awake
Speaker 1: and just give you energy. And you just got to
Speaker 1: kind of choose. I have to choose carefully who I
Speaker 1: spend time with. Oh yeah, you can be draining right
Speaker 1: some some sometimes if you get filled up from a relationship,
Speaker 1: and sometimes you get drained from it. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm a real victim because one thing that I thank
Speaker 1: you and I you talk about, that thing we obviously
Speaker 1: have in common, is that I am really willing to
Speaker 1: open myself up. I'm willing to just lay it all out.
Speaker 1: I have no fear of that. And you have to
Speaker 1: be a little bit. I guess, you know, every now
Speaker 1: and then, a couple of psychics that I've seen that
Speaker 1: because I've got four psychics in my life that have
Speaker 1: blown my mind. A couple of them just warned me
Speaker 1: about that that I'm too open and and that you've
Speaker 1: got to be careful because you can get a little
Speaker 1: influence that you don't really need. I don't understand so
Speaker 1: gullible that I have to be careful who I take
Speaker 1: kind of like psychic advice from. So if you have
Speaker 1: a really good psychics, s them my way. Please, No
Speaker 1: good psychic can really be helpful to someone, you know,
Speaker 1: Like even a thing as thin as astrology people think
Speaker 1: it is. It's it is a way of saying an
Speaker 1: astrologers can really guide you to say, do not leave
Speaker 1: your house today. He's saying, no, you're gonna walk out
Speaker 1: that door and a freaking truck's gonna run you over.
Speaker 1: You know, they can see it in your in your
Speaker 1: chart even you know, if a good astrologer, Uh so,
Speaker 1: that's what it's for. It's it's the print prevent you
Speaker 1: from Um, that's the only way I heard. Here's another
Speaker 1: thing I've heard say, I'm not giving I'm not the
Speaker 1: preacher here. I'm just saying, yeah, you have to. Someone
Speaker 1: can not tell you don't go outside. They can warn you,
Speaker 1: and you have to make the decision. It's the organic
Speaker 1: thing again, like the psychics are not supposed to interfere
Speaker 1: in what's supposed to happen, but they can guide you
Speaker 1: that you should probably stay home. I don't even know
Speaker 1: if it's like that, but supposed that they have to
Speaker 1: be careful doing that because they will also lose their gift.
Speaker 1: One psychic told me he will lose his gift they make.
Speaker 1: I always ask my psychic at the end of a session.
Speaker 1: It's say I'd say, is there anything you need to
Speaker 1: tell me that I didn't ask? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Because because they're not allowed to just come and say, hey,
Speaker 1: you better watch out. You know, don't you do this?
Speaker 1: You do that. They can't guide your life. That's illegal
Speaker 1: in the in the karmic world. So I would always
Speaker 1: say that is there anything I and they say, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: you should probably stop beating so much meat, because you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know you. I can see these things that
Speaker 1: they don't necessarily tell you unless you ask. Chris, you
Speaker 1: have to inquire or they have to guide you through
Speaker 1: it not you know, they can't just say don't do
Speaker 1: that like your parents do. You know? Well that makes
Speaker 1: more sense. That makes me like it more because I'll
Speaker 1: just not ask the scary questions. I don't want to
Speaker 1: know when I'm going to die and how it's going
Speaker 1: to happen. I really don't want to know. Really, no,
Speaker 1: you want to know. I don't know. I ain't afraid
Speaker 1: of die in that's that doesn't bother me one bit. Man.
Speaker 1: It's like, I'm I know I'm crazy, but listen, I'm
Speaker 1: seventy three years old. So it's like, and I've done everything,
Speaker 1: I've had the most wonderful life in possly want. So
Speaker 1: I'm going, Okay, if I die, I don't want to
Speaker 1: die painfully or get hurt or something. But I don't
Speaker 1: know what. Death doesn't scare me. I'm curious about it.
Speaker 1: See I'm curious what. I'm curious about it too, to
Speaker 1: be honest. And I have like a specific way that like,
Speaker 1: if I were to plan on dying in a specific way,
Speaker 1: I have a way that I would like to go.
Speaker 1: How's that I want to I'm like, I'm interested, So
Speaker 1: I would eat a fuck ton of Molly, and then
Speaker 1: I would go swimming naked in the ocean, covered in
Speaker 1: like dead fish and just have like a creature eat meat,
Speaker 1: ideally like a shark or a orca. Wow. I like that.
Speaker 1: I don't think that would be the most like painless
Speaker 1: way to go, but it's like, then I could be
Speaker 1: in the ocean, I could be naked, I could be
Speaker 1: on Molly, and I be feeding a creature that I love.
Speaker 1: I'm getting where have you been all my life? Where
Speaker 1: have you been all my life? You can do half
Speaker 1: that ship anyway, all right? I just want to I
Speaker 1: love like animals, so I want like an animal to eat.
Speaker 1: Is what I want? Is I want someone to eat me.
Speaker 1: Or if I die of like natural causes, I would
Speaker 1: want all my friends to come over and barbecue me
Speaker 1: and like dip me and barbecue sauce because I love
Speaker 1: barbecue sauce and like just have a little pieces of me.
Speaker 1: Like I said, you could do half that ship anyway.
Speaker 1: But that's a whole other story. Oh man Cash, anyway,
Speaker 1: you're a blast. You're fun. I'm just crazy. Oh so
Speaker 1: you told me the one obviously probably really intense ghost
Speaker 1: encounter with your father which must be emotional, and but
Speaker 1: what was the other one? The same kind of a
Speaker 1: thing my manager as a solo artist. When I joined
Speaker 1: and Halen, he became our manager for for ten years
Speaker 1: and he died well for nine years. He died at
Speaker 1: nine years and after managing us, and he was my everything.
Speaker 1: My father died when I was young. This Ed Leffler
Speaker 1: was my father figure and life. This is the same
Speaker 1: that told you about your father on the phone. No, No,
Speaker 1: that was when I was a kid, when I was
Speaker 1: just trying to play music for this guy said I'll
Speaker 1: be your manager. He was just a nice man that
Speaker 1: I met uh at a nightclub that said I'll be
Speaker 1: your manager. Okay, And so I didn't have a phone
Speaker 1: or anything back then. But no, this was later on
Speaker 1: in life. This is Van Halen era. Okay. Ed Leffler
Speaker 1: was our manager, and Ed had a thing about him
Speaker 1: where he could chill us out. He kept the band together.
Speaker 1: When he died, the band broke up within a year
Speaker 1: and we've been together nine years. He dies in Boom
Speaker 1: we break up. Ed was a real controlling guy and
Speaker 1: after he died, we were shopping for managers and we
Speaker 1: were fighting, you know, like you know the band's do
Speaker 1: and so um they the guy said, you know, we
Speaker 1: want this guy, we want that guy. We're interviewing all
Speaker 1: these people, you know, Errol Smith's manager and um Neil
Speaker 1: Young's manager. We just sheep Gordon Alice Cooper's manager friend.
Speaker 1: So uh Ed dies. Finally the brothers come to me
Speaker 1: and say, we're gonna hire Ray Daniels. Ray Daniels was
Speaker 1: Alex's brother in law at the time. And Uh, I'm
Speaker 1: good that guy, oh man Ed left Or hated him.
Speaker 1: He didn't. I shouldn't say something that's unfair to say
Speaker 1: that Ed left our manage didn't like he used to
Speaker 1: say bad things about him, like, hey, that guy's a crook.
Speaker 1: You know you want to watch out for deck enough
Speaker 1: for any reason other than you know. So all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, Ed uh ed Al tell me that they
Speaker 1: want to interview Ray Daniels. I said, are you crazy?
Speaker 1: Left Or told us stay away for it, and and
Speaker 1: they go, yeah, okay, but we want to we let's
Speaker 1: have it, have a meeting with him. So I'm going, man,
Speaker 1: it's sucked up. So that night I'm sleeping, Ed left
Speaker 1: for comes to my side, who had passed him three
Speaker 1: weeks before. That's right. He's kneeling next to my bed
Speaker 1: and I smelled him. I was sleeping. I could smell him.
Speaker 1: You know how some people just have a smell, will
Speaker 1: you just remember? And he was that close to me,
Speaker 1: so anyway, so I smelled him and I opened my
Speaker 1: eyes and I said, Ed, oh, And I started bawling
Speaker 1: my eyes out, crying and said oh, Ed. I said, oh,
Speaker 1: and I need your help. You know, like the band's
Speaker 1: gonna break up and they're gonna get Ray Daniels. And
Speaker 1: he said it's okay. And I said, I thought you
Speaker 1: didn't like Ray. He said, well from here where I am.
Speaker 1: Now he's he's the guy. He's gonna be your manager
Speaker 1: and he and he said let it go. He told me,
Speaker 1: let it go, and I said, oh my god. And
Speaker 1: then he was gone. And here we go again. First
Speaker 1: all up. And I went to the studio the next
Speaker 1: day and said, fuck it, you guys want to hire
Speaker 1: Ray Daniels. Hire him? And they hired him, and I
Speaker 1: got thrown out of the band immediately, and then they
Speaker 1: fired him. That's the I'm sorry. But Ed Leffler came
Speaker 1: to me that night and told me, chill out. This
Speaker 1: is okay, it's meant to be. But that sounds like
Speaker 1: you're really loyal. Loyalty is a big deal, Yeah it is.
Speaker 1: It sounds like you're just being loyal to someone you trusted.
Speaker 1: So yes, I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing.
Speaker 1: But it was weird because he was a ghost. Listen,
Speaker 1: he had been gone for a couple of weeks, you know,
Speaker 1: and uh, did you know he was a ghost or
Speaker 1: what were you like? Every time I see Ed Leffler
Speaker 1: in my dreams, which I still do every now and
Speaker 1: then he comes to see me, And every time I
Speaker 1: see him, I'm sitting there and saying, oh, Ed, you know,
Speaker 1: we're having a good time. But it's always a little distance.
Speaker 1: You know. It's never like hugging, it's never touching, but
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, he's in the room and I
Speaker 1: see and it's oh man Ed, and and you know,
Speaker 1: good sea has been a while. And then I'll said,
Speaker 1: oh women, edge dead boom, dreams over gone. The second
Speaker 1: I ever acknowledged that he's past, he's gone, and that's
Speaker 1: ten times are are more since he's been since he's
Speaker 1: been gone. So Kaliko was talking about how she has
Speaker 1: been recently, like just diving into astral projection, which I
Speaker 1: don't really know exactly what that is. The way she
Speaker 1: was explaining it, it sounds almost a little bit like
Speaker 1: what you're saying is happening in your dream where you
Speaker 1: everything's kind of normal until you realize it's not and
Speaker 1: then you wake up. Yeah, yeah, that's that's if she's right,
Speaker 1: If that's what it is, somebody's astral projecting. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I'm going to see him or he's coming
Speaker 1: to see me, but you have to agree on that.
Speaker 1: You've got to meet in different places. I know you
Speaker 1: can't physically, you know, do certain things. So I think
Speaker 1: it's like a halfway meeting kind of thing, you know,
Speaker 1: you guys meeting another dimensioned kind of in the fifth
Speaker 1: dimension or somewhere you can walk through walls that kind
Speaker 1: of an area. I don't know, it's unexplainable and see
Speaker 1: all that stuff. In case I was hoping you were
Speaker 1: going to give me tell me how all this stuff works.
Speaker 1: That's why I did a stamp show. Okay, here, let
Speaker 1: me tell you about you. I know from the research
Speaker 1: I've done is I've spoken to a medium like knew
Speaker 1: crazy shit about things I didn't even know about, and
Speaker 1: like I ended up having to call different people and
Speaker 1: like found out that it was true. It's not google
Speaker 1: herble information. It's insane. So to me that like it
Speaker 1: made me feel warm and fuzzy inside because I don't
Speaker 1: think that when you go, you're just gone. I feel
Speaker 1: like we just can't see maybe things, or we don't
Speaker 1: understand our brain can't comprehend it. But I know and
Speaker 1: I feel people especially I feel like protection when I
Speaker 1: need it, and I feel that. So I can say
Speaker 1: from your stories about ghost I think that you people
Speaker 1: that wanted to maybe give you closure and peace. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm like feeling from your stories. I call myself
Speaker 1: a spiritual explorer because I'm not closed off to anything
Speaker 1: and I'm kind of open to everything and I don't
Speaker 1: know anything. I'm just exploring. Yeah, no, no, that's saying.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm with you. But Cosmic Christians is that
Speaker 1: I talk about cosmic Christians, about my theory about the UFOs,
Speaker 1: what the cosmic Christians, well, the cosmic Christians of people
Speaker 1: that I believed at one time and it was my
Speaker 1: own theory. I thought that I found out there's other people.
Speaker 1: Is that you know that the second Coming of Christ
Speaker 1: will be like in UFOs and spaceships, and they'll come
Speaker 1: and take the chosen ones away to another dimension or
Speaker 1: two heaven. I believe in the seated thing. I believe
Speaker 1: in the I heard about the nuclear thing, you know,
Speaker 1: through the things I've read about over the years, the
Speaker 1: nucletar thing about we can't have these nuclear things are bad.
Speaker 1: We got to that, that's no no biend. We've got
Speaker 1: to get rid of that. And and they're kind of
Speaker 1: keeping an eye on things and watching it, but they
Speaker 1: can't interfere. And so we're we're on the Yeah, we're
Speaker 1: on the on the teeter tottering or we're going to
Speaker 1: either go this way and destruct or we're gonna survive
Speaker 1: and having you know, another version of this little garden.
Speaker 1: This is a human garden. We have a life garden.
Speaker 1: It's a garden of life Planet Earth. It's it's it's
Speaker 1: full of life, right, It's it's green, it's got water.
Speaker 1: It is that like how we all as a people,
Speaker 1: as all of the people and animals of that eat
Speaker 1: the grass that comes off of the ground, don't understand
Speaker 1: that the there's like a symbiotic relationship with the place
Speaker 1: we're inhabiting where we just like fuck it, Like it's
Speaker 1: such a head trip to me, how like we don't
Speaker 1: understand that there's we need the Earth, so we should
Speaker 1: probably like love it and not completely fuck it up
Speaker 1: like that to me is a mind trip. And like
Speaker 1: if we just keep sucking it up, then I don't
Speaker 1: know to say. I hope the aliens come and get me.
Speaker 1: I have a song actually about spaceship. That's like I
Speaker 1: don't understand like half of the ship that goes on
Speaker 1: on this planet. So just beat me up and take
Speaker 1: me to wherever. I just for a good old adventure.
Speaker 1: But I'm also ready to try another planet. I would
Speaker 1: like to do it too. Yeah, I mean I'm afraid
Speaker 1: of that. If the mother ship comes, I have like
Speaker 1: a little spaceship tattoo. I'm ready for them. Please don't
Speaker 1: get me if they get you first, would you come
Speaker 1: and get me to just some say me gonna make
Speaker 1: one more up. Yeah, I'll do the same for you.
Speaker 1: We have a handshake deal on that. Okay. Do you
Speaker 1: have a pet? Yes, okay, what kind of I have
Speaker 1: a little dog, yeah, money, she's a little dog, like
Speaker 1: a miniature Yorky like a pocket cute. And do you
Speaker 1: love money? Not as much as my wife and my
Speaker 1: and my daughter. Yeah, Lacy, this was my question because
Speaker 1: I was going to say, if I pick you up
Speaker 1: on the spaceship, you're going to bring your pet. You're
Speaker 1: gonna bring your wife? Oh? My wife? Oh yeah, it's nice.
Speaker 1: I would definitely bring my cat. He knows, he knows
Speaker 1: he's sitting here. He knows that cat is my soul mate.
Speaker 1: You know, if I had the right bird, I'm a
Speaker 1: bird guy. If I had the right parrot, I would
Speaker 1: probably there'd be a toss up because I love birds.
Speaker 1: I'm just I just want to fly so bad. And
Speaker 1: the cats and birds don't get along with Those are
Speaker 1: the two creatures I like the most. I have four cats,
Speaker 1: and like have lots of tattoos of cats. And I
Speaker 1: just started looking up the yin and yang of the
Speaker 1: feminine and masculine. Right, so I was meditating and saw
Speaker 1: this kind of psychedelic vision and I saw the yin
Speaker 1: yang symbol, and I always thought it was so cheesy.
Speaker 1: I was like, what is this symbol? And then I
Speaker 1: started researching it and apparently the feminine is all your
Speaker 1: left side of your body, which I have a torn
Speaker 1: a cell on my knee. I have a torn hip
Speaker 1: thing for on stage. I have three discs in my
Speaker 1: back on the left side and my shoulder all the
Speaker 1: way up the left side. The feminine is completely fucked
Speaker 1: and the symbol is a tiger. So I have to, like,
Speaker 1: I think, I have to balance out the feminine and masculine.
Speaker 1: That's where I'm met in my life right now. It
Speaker 1: really that's not a question. I'm just telling you, well,
Speaker 1: you know, okay, I think you should just go ahead
Speaker 1: and do it. Every your soul, in your little heart,
Speaker 1: you know, just desires and and pushes you any direction.
Speaker 1: You should be fearless because you I'm not just I'm not,
Speaker 1: you know, rubbing on you. You got talent. You're really special.
Speaker 1: My now, I'll say, my twenty four year old daughter
Speaker 1: turned me onto you because she's a you just fan,
Speaker 1: and she came to see you and you played here
Speaker 1: in San Francisco about five six years ago, and I
Speaker 1: got her in and she got to meet you. Her
Speaker 1: name is came up, but anyway, and she she turned
Speaker 1: me onto you, and it's You're very special. I like,
Speaker 1: I like your party attitude. You know how to make
Speaker 1: people feel good and have a good time, and that's
Speaker 1: almost that's important. Yes, I do. That's that's why I
Speaker 1: love you. That's what I'm saying. It's important. It is important,
Speaker 1: and I think that like you have a good heart,
Speaker 1: and then on top of that you add just fun
Speaker 1: and then dancing, which I think is a really like
Speaker 1: as adults were also self conscious and trying to be
Speaker 1: so cool that people don't just act like idiot And
Speaker 1: so by example, I'm like, watch me act like a
Speaker 1: fucking idiot and dance around. This is giving you permission
Speaker 1: to just like lose your mind and act like an
Speaker 1: idiot and play, because I feel like the animals in
Speaker 1: the world, they all play. It's important to play. Kids play,
Speaker 1: and we grow up and we stopped playing unless you're
Speaker 1: just like super drunk, which I you know, if you
Speaker 1: want to do that, but yeah, but the same, I
Speaker 1: can do it sober the same. But like, I just
Speaker 1: want to create an environment where people can come just
Speaker 1: like play like an animal, like a kitten, like a child,
Speaker 1: like just dance and like have your energy, just get
Speaker 1: shaken up and just feel like not judged. That's my
Speaker 1: goal in everything I do. Joy is important. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: seems like you're like I love your tequila and like
Speaker 1: I feel like you kind of have that environment to
Speaker 1: where it's like, come drink some tequila, chill out, and
Speaker 1: like you can't drive fifty five. You just can't do it.
Speaker 1: Bring enjoy to the world is so important for entertainers,
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, there's artists and there's entertainers and
Speaker 1: everybody can be I like it when it's all mixed
Speaker 1: in like yourself and you just you know, you bring
Speaker 1: a great art and you bring visual and you bring
Speaker 1: joy and and uh enjoys. Everybody wants to be happy.
Speaker 1: And if you can make somebody happy, hey you're doing
Speaker 1: your job. So yeah, you're like a fucking magician. Okay,
Speaker 1: if you had a cult, what would your manifesto be?
Speaker 1: And what would be the dress code? What would be
Speaker 1: the last manifesto? Your dress code would be like the uniform?
Speaker 1: Oh well, first naked, absolutely naked, I hate absolutely, and
Speaker 1: uh the cult would be uh that we yeah, that
Speaker 1: we just dancing party and play music and eat and
Speaker 1: drink and everything naked, you know, and not have and
Speaker 1: not have a weird sexual side to it, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. It's like I mean, I'm sexual. I
Speaker 1: love it, but but I mean not that be the
Speaker 1: m O. No exactly, no perverted ship. Just like, hey,
Speaker 1: we're just naked and we are in front of each
Speaker 1: other and we can do whatever we want to be free.
Speaker 1: I would man that my cult would be freedom baby.
Speaker 1: Just that's a great tagline for your colt. My cult
Speaker 1: would be freedom baby to a T shirt. Complete freedom.
Speaker 1: And last question, if and when you are a ghost,
Speaker 1: how and what would you do to haunt people so
Speaker 1: they would know it's you? Oh? What? Mm hmmm, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm wow, I'm not sure I'd come and
Speaker 1: haunt people really definitely haunt people. You can be a
Speaker 1: friendly haunting. Okay, you know what I do. I love
Speaker 1: to cook and eat. I'm a nut about cooking, but
Speaker 1: you know, in good food and good wine and stuff.
Speaker 1: Oh man, I would make things smell really good. Man,
Speaker 1: I'd like funk with him. Did Jill somebody cooking some
Speaker 1: food around here? You know, something like that's great? Yeah,
Speaker 1: they'd be coming downstairs chicken or kitchen and say, well,
Speaker 1: and I thought somebody was cooking? Who knew? I've learned
Speaker 1: so much about you. My version of hunting if I
Speaker 1: when I'm a ghost, is I'm going. I apparently can't
Speaker 1: put towels up like they're all over and all my
Speaker 1: clothes her everywhere, So I would just come in and
Speaker 1: throw my underwear and towels everywhere, and then I dripped
Speaker 1: when I get out of the shower. It's something that
Speaker 1: me and my boyfriend find about, is apparently I just
Speaker 1: dripped water everywhere, and then it be the dripping ghost
Speaker 1: that man. Well, I, oh boy, well, if you ever pass,
Speaker 1: if you passed before me, I'm gonna be on the lookout. Man,
Speaker 1: come to the towels everywhere, that'll be me. Oh man, listen,
Speaker 1: you're you're funny. I had no idea. I knew you
Speaker 1: would be like this. I knew you would be like this,
Speaker 1: but I didn't really know. So now I really know,
Speaker 1: and it makes me happy that you are what I
Speaker 1: see and what I meant is what you get right,
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Fuck yeah. And tell your daughter I
Speaker 1: said hi, and I love her. And her name is
Speaker 1: Cama m A came love and Sanskrit. And I want
Speaker 1: you to someday say hey, I met your dad. Thank
Speaker 1: you for doing this all right, thank you, Kesha let
Speaker 1: An honor same. You're the ship. Bye for now, Bye
Speaker 1: for now, Bye from now, for now,