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Speaker 1: Kesha and the Creepies is a production of I Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: If the Ship, If the mother Ship comes, I'm ready

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Speaker 1: for them, Like, please come get me if they get

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Speaker 1: you first, would you come and get me to just

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Speaker 1: some say men made one more stup? Yeah, I'll do

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Speaker 1: the same for you. We have a handshake deal on that. Say,

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Speaker 1: motherfucking hare hello and welcome to my podcast. Thank you

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Speaker 1: for doing this, well, thank you for having me. That's

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Speaker 1: first of all. That's it's a great little introduction or

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Speaker 1: Sammy motherfucker guard damning, except here it's too early. Come on.

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Speaker 1: I kind of wanted to jump off with just I've

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Speaker 1: heard the story about you having an abduction, correct, that's

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Speaker 1: what you call it. Well, you know, I wasn't abducted

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Speaker 1: to where I went for I you know, like like

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Speaker 1: Bill and Barney Hill or whatever that that lady uh

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Speaker 1: in the in the fifties. It actually went out and

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Speaker 1: told us how the universe looks from out there and

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Speaker 1: all this stuff. I already got goose bumps. Look, I'm

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Speaker 1: already fucked. But I didn't get abducted. But I was, Um,

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Speaker 1: it's sixty eight. I was laying in bed and I

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Speaker 1: was you know, I was sleeping, and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: I felt like something was going on. I come, was

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Speaker 1: gonna wake up. And then I had this. I could

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Speaker 1: see these guys sitting It's thirteen miles away, you know,

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Speaker 1: exactly where they were sitting, you know, and all this stuff,

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Speaker 1: the relative to my hometown, and uh, I just went,

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Speaker 1: what's going on? And they started saying, you know, it

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Speaker 1: was all te lepthy. No one's saying anything. So I

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Speaker 1: didn't go for the ride. But I was plugged into

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Speaker 1: something and it was wireless and you know, way before

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Speaker 1: wireless and remote control and all the things. And they said, hey,

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Speaker 1: he's waking up, and uh we gotta, you know, get

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Speaker 1: out of here, and not get out of here. But

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Speaker 1: you know, like he's he's he's wise to this. But

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Speaker 1: it wasn't like that. It's just so unusual. I can

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Speaker 1: hardly explain it today and could never explain it properly.

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Speaker 1: But I was being either programmed or they were uploading

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Speaker 1: what I knew. Not because I was some special guy.

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Speaker 1: I was just some dumb kid, but just you know,

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Speaker 1: like an experiment, like you know, I was just some

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Speaker 1: creature that they're saying. I checked this guy out and

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Speaker 1: but I caught it and it was bad ass freaking out. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because at the time, I never thought anything about the universe.

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Speaker 1: I never thought about you know. My only religious experience

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Speaker 1: was going to Catholic church and oh, God, whatever that is,

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Speaker 1: you know, the devil, whatever that is. So I had

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Speaker 1: no psychic phenomenon, just nothing. It was just like, you know,

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Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, I was awake. I

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Speaker 1: was saying, oh, no, something's going on here. There's people

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Speaker 1: out there. I was looking at the sky. I became

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Speaker 1: an astronomer, not astrologer. I became an astronomer. I got

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Speaker 1: a telescope. I just started reading up on all that. So,

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Speaker 1: I mean I became a nut from that day on. Well,

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Speaker 1: I've been a nut, I think since day one, because

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Speaker 1: I've just my mom was like, she majored in astrology,

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Speaker 1: and I think it was like weird growing or something.

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Speaker 1: She went to a college that was in real college,

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Speaker 1: and so pretty much since I can remember, it's just

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Speaker 1: been she writes music and tells me about like whose

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Speaker 1: sign will go good with my sign? And there are

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Speaker 1: just mercuries and retrograde for their signs and blah blah blah.

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Speaker 1: So it's been like a very natural part of my life.

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Speaker 1: It's always been there. And she likes to call herself

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Speaker 1: a psychic. She's pretty psychic sometimes, but then sometimes she's

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Speaker 1: super not. But I've always been fascinated with the unexplainable

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Speaker 1: or things that are hard to put into words, because

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Speaker 1: that's the most exciting part of life, is when you

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Speaker 1: experience something like this, We're like, I can barely explain it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I still can't explain it. I mean, I'm a firm believer.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this ship happened. It was not like some dream.

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Speaker 1: No no, no, no. I woke up from the dream.

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Speaker 1: My whole room was pure white and I couldn't move,

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Speaker 1: and then you know, I mean like infinity, you know, white,

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Speaker 1: like I was locked down. It was. It was. It

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Speaker 1: because I wasn't interested and could care less about any

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Speaker 1: It was. It was shocking and scary, but now it

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be. I mean I would be like chasing him,

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Speaker 1: to ross Well next week just because, and then to

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Speaker 1: fun in my spare time, I go chasing the aliens.

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Speaker 1: Well I thought you played music for fun? Well that too,

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Speaker 1: but you know, but like all beyond the tour bus

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Speaker 1: stay at the haunted hotel, Like well, what sign are

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Speaker 1: you cashing? What signed? We gotta get this out of

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Speaker 1: the way. Let's it all the way. I'm a Pisces,

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Speaker 1: what are you? Oh? Well, of course then you are

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Speaker 1: with everybody except for male scorpios. We love them, yeah scorpios.

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Speaker 1: a scorpiola. So yeah, they're they're they're freaky people, but

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Speaker 1: they they they're pretty sensitive. Man, they get this stuff.

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Speaker 1: They're sensitive, but then they sting you. Yeah, well, I

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Speaker 1: gotta be careful, especially at Pisces, because Pisces aren't careful,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, careful about anything, but like the most

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Speaker 1: But anyway, so what I mean, what do you think?

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Speaker 1: I'm not asking you, it's my interview. You've gone. So,

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Speaker 1: but where do you think these creatures are coming from? See,

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Speaker 1: I believe there's more than one. There's there's robots, there's

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Speaker 1: robots for sure. And I even have a friend, this

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Speaker 1: I'm still a little confused about it. But to me,

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Speaker 1: I think aliens might just be us in the future.

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Speaker 1: So your story is that you could have been downloading

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Speaker 1: your new body because you're a clone, just throwing that

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Speaker 1: one out there. Well, I became a different guy, I

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Speaker 1: can tell you that much right now. At that time,

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Speaker 1: I don't believe it now, but if there if something

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Speaker 1: life completely. From that day on, I just went who

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Speaker 1: I was just a complete new guy and I was

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Speaker 1: on a quest and I still am. But yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: enlightened me. You know what I've had like because of

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Speaker 1: this podcast is like kind of a segue for me

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Speaker 1: people that fascinate me about whatever the funk we want

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Speaker 1: to talk about. That's what this is, right, and especially

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Speaker 1: anything magical, unexplainable, weird, creepy, just kind of whatever. It's

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Speaker 1: weirdest tour experience you've ever had? To what's the most

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Speaker 1: unexplainable thing? To this experience you had with aliens. I

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Speaker 1: have like a couple of like kind of tactile questions.

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Speaker 1: How did you know it was? Did you see physically

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Speaker 1: see a person and or being or you just felt it? No,

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Speaker 1: and then it just went, Like I said, white, they

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Speaker 1: But while we were connected to see I could see them,

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Speaker 1: and they could see me. I guess they could see me,

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Speaker 1: but I could see them, but not clear. They were

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Speaker 1: just kind of back lit. Remember that Science programming, those

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Speaker 1: and talking about his experiences and he's had some crazy

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00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:25,119
Speaker 1: experiences too. Yeah, I know Alice, he's been through some stuff.

424
00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,800
Speaker 1: He's been he went clear to the dark side himself.

425
00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:30,520
Speaker 1: You know, he can probably have some stories in there.

426
00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,760
Speaker 1: But you know, I just think that the dimensional thing,

427
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:37,320
Speaker 1: there's a there's a philosopher named P. D. O. Spinsky

428
00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:42,280
Speaker 1: and Ospensky wrote about dimensions, and you know, we are

429
00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:46,240
Speaker 1: three dimensional creatures with a fourth dimensional sense, which the

430
00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,320
Speaker 1: fourth dimensions, we can see the future a little bit.

431
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,119
Speaker 1: Like you can sit here and think, oh, I was

432
00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,600
Speaker 1: on a uh in that car yesterday. You can remember

433
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,640
Speaker 1: where you were or where you need to go later.

434
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,640
Speaker 1: That's like kind of fourth dimensional psychist kind of hang

435
00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 1: out in that area a lot more and that's fourth dimensional,

436
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 1: and O Spensey claimed that fifth dimensional you can walk

437
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:08,359
Speaker 1: through physical walls like that's like Jesus and you know

438
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,880
Speaker 1: the Master's Buddha and those guys that witnessed things where

439
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 1: these gurus would would be able to manifest saying say, oh,

440
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,000
Speaker 1: would you like an apple boom? Here's one you know

441
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,520
Speaker 1: in the middle of nowhere. Here you have rings too small, Well,

442
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,199
Speaker 1: let me make it bigger for you. Touch it and

443
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 1: put it on your finger. Uh, that's fifth dimensional stuff.

444
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,600
Speaker 1: And Ospensky didn't get much farther than the fifty dimension

445
00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 1: where he thought he really had it down. Einstein was

446
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,200
Speaker 1: reading his book Toreach an Organ and when he died,

447
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,359
Speaker 1: it was open on his desk. If you saw a

448
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,920
Speaker 1: picture of Einstein's desk, which I saw, not I wasn't there.

449
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,200
Speaker 1: I saw a picture. I don't know what you're talking about. Okay.

450
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,480
Speaker 1: So the point is, as I started getting more into

451
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,639
Speaker 1: the UFO stuff and and talking to the psychics and

452
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:51,200
Speaker 1: people that know it, Supposedly, the ninth dimension is what

453
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,719
Speaker 1: God is to us, what we can all we can comprehend.

454
00:22:55,000 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 1: We cannot go past the ninth dimension and number. Yeah,

455
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,919
Speaker 1: I read that that like nine is your that's your number. Well,

456
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,159
Speaker 1: it's a weird tripping number does things. It is a

457
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,400
Speaker 1: dripping number. I mean you turn it upside down, there's

458
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:14,199
Speaker 1: the devil times over. But like, I definitely want to

459
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,159
Speaker 1: hear about the numerology thing. So tell me about nine.

460
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,639
Speaker 1: When I discovered nine, then I started. I named my

461
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,160
Speaker 1: publishing company nine Music. I had a band called the Nine,

462
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,440
Speaker 1: you know, early on when I was first starting when

463
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,680
Speaker 1: all this, when I first got you know, non abductive

464
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:32,119
Speaker 1: but contacted by aliens. If you add nine to any number,

465
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 1: nine and three is twelve, two and one is three.

466
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 1: When you take it down to the single digit again,

467
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,160
Speaker 1: nine disappears. If you add it to anything, you could

468
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 1: add nine to one million, seven and twenty seven seven

469
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,160
Speaker 1: to come down to one digit, the nine will disappear.

470
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 1: You multiply nine and it will never go away. Three

471
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,400
Speaker 1: nines and twenty seven seven in two is nine, six

472
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 1: nines or fifty four or five and four is nine.

473
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 1: It's the freakiest thing. So if you see a bunch

474
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:57,680
Speaker 1: of nines and you're trying to get to the last digit,

475
00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 1: you know, and you just add up the four and

476
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 1: fins and nine, throw it out don't even bother, so

477
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 1: it's a three and people go, well, that guy's a

478
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 1: fucking genius, you know. But it just get rid of

479
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 1: the nines and anything that adds up to nine if

480
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 1: you're adding, and you can throw it out and you

481
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 1: can take a block of numbers and come down with

482
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 1: the single digit in the bottom like in ten seconds

483
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 1: if you're if you really know how to do this stuff,

484
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 1: do you multiply nine times anything and it becomes a

485
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 1: nine again when you get down to the last digit.

486
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 1: It's freaky as ship. And I'm not that good at

487
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 1: it in my head, but I'm telling you that it works.

488
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,400
Speaker 1: You can do it like you know, nine times anything

489
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 1: five nine, five, five and four, nine, three, nine seven

490
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:43,160
Speaker 1: two is nine eight nines or one eight and ones

491
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 1: nine again. It will not go away. It stays forever

492
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 1: in multiplication. And supposedly the reason that is it's the

493
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 1: cap it's the end of the of our dimensional thing,

494
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 1: and it's these numerology I mean, these mathematical geniuses in

495
00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 1: our time have come up with all these little fun

496
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 1: little tricks and that's how they figure out ship. Though

497
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 1: you know, like how far things are and how quick

498
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 1: you can do things and what the you know, lightspeed,

499
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 1: But but that's the ninth you mention is supposed to

500
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 1: be God. So if we funk around with that consciousness,

501
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 1: supposedly with the computer, you that God is almost like

502
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 1: a computer. This is just theories I've heard. I don't know.

503
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 1: I don't know if I believe this or not. But

504
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 1: the u UFO I'm like super curious about because I

505
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,120
Speaker 1: feel like technology is one of those things that can

506
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 1: serve the Earth and the planet and all of us

507
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 1: in a really positive way as I get to talk

508
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:37,879
Speaker 1: to you about really interesting, spiritual, enlightening shit, and but

509
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 1: then it also can be a really negative, hateful place

510
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,160
Speaker 1: where there's false information spread and people can be total cunts.

511
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:45,880
Speaker 1: So I think that there's a light in a dark

512
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 1: to everything. So I find myself reluctant to be overly

513
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,719
Speaker 1: just joyous about technology because I know that there are

514
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 1: some really good people and then there are some people

515
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,880
Speaker 1: that are not so good, and usually it's from going

516
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 1: through traumatic things or whatever. They're different reasons why people

517
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:06,400
Speaker 1: make poor choices. But I just get nervous with technology

518
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 1: because as we go ahead, it's maybe because it's the

519
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: fear of the unknown, but technology I do think is

520
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 1: a portal to something if in the right hands. Yeah,

521
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 1: it can be such a connector. I'm with you that

522
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,479
Speaker 1: the whole social aspect that it's ruined. It kind of

523
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:27,160
Speaker 1: makes us in unsoulful and organic something about that technology

524
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,400
Speaker 1: is taking a lot of that away from us and

525
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,439
Speaker 1: leaving us just thinking. And everything's quick, and you know,

526
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 1: people are just sniping behind computers and stuff. But but

527
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 1: there's some knowledge there that we can get somehow. I

528
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 1: think about what life is really all about, and I

529
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 1: hope it's good information. And I hope the answer we get.

530
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 1: I just hope it isn't no, no God, just a computer. No,

531
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,159
Speaker 1: you guys, just some dumbass thought. You know for one

532
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 1: second on this. I mean, some people have laid that

533
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 1: stuff on me. I hear so many theories. When I

534
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 1: try to talk about this with anyone, I it confused quick,

535
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 1: because you know, I just have my experiences and the

536
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: things that I feel and believe. And I know there's dimensions,

537
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 1: and I know there's ghosts, and I know there's UFOs,

538
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 1: but I don't know what it all means. I don't know.

539
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 1: I heard that they can't interfere with us. A ghost

540
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,159
Speaker 1: you can say, get out of here, and that's my

541
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 1: life space. I have life force. They want your life force.

542
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 1: They want to come in and live again through you,

543
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 1: and they can do it if you let them. I've

544
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: heard you've got to be careful with that. And I

545
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 1: heard that the UFO guys as well, uh, that they

546
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 1: can't interfere. They can't stop you from dropping the bomb,

547
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,360
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. They can't stop you from

548
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 1: having your warfare. You know they they're not It's illegal

549
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 1: in the universe to let it. It's almost like when

550
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 1: you're you're a photographer or filming nature, where you're not

551
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 1: allowed to interfere, like even if you're like the shark

552
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 1: is getting eaten by or is going to eat some

553
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,640
Speaker 1: sweet cute looking thing, like when you're filming nature, you're

554
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 1: not supposed to interfere. I sometimes wonder if the aliens

555
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 1: are like that with us, where it's like what I've heard,

556
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 1: they're blowing each other up, but we can't interfere. They're

557
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 1: just looking at watching closely. Because you know, the balance

558
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,399
Speaker 1: of the universe. I guess you know, it's just like

559
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: the ecology. It's it's you know, if something gets out

560
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,640
Speaker 1: of balance, Uh, I guess it messes with the whole

561
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: big picture on the road to God, you know, whatever

562
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: that ninth dimension holds. So I'm so curious about the

563
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: fifth or the sixth, seventh, and eighth, and ninth dimensions too.

564
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 1: Like I was reading. There's a book I was reading

565
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 1: called A Short History of Everything. I believe that's what's

566
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 1: called Bill Bryson. Anyways, he was saying, and I probably

567
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: misquoting this, so this is not factual information, but there

568
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: was something like proven twelve dimensions and infinite. So how

569
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: do we even like reconcile that in our brains. We can't.

570
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: I don't even know. We're only capable of comprehending the

571
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: fourth dimension, which is psychic. You know, we can say

572
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: I know I have to be someplace tomorrow and I

573
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 1: can see it in my head. I know where I'm going.

574
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 1: That's like fourth dimensional ship. It don't exist. I mean,

575
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 1: who knows if it's even there right now. You know,

576
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 1: you're we're talking about things, and but until you get there,

577
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: then it is there. But that's fourth dimensional stuff. That's,

578
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: like I said, a psychic Like if you're sitting there

579
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 1: watching a train and there's a train track and there's

580
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: a train come in both directions. If you didn't have

581
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,719
Speaker 1: any communication and they didn't know, you can rise above

582
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 1: and look down and go, oh, they're gonna crash. That's

583
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 1: a psychic, he's going they say, how did you know?

584
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, It's like, it's that it's

585
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 1: that primitive sometimes what they tell psychics tell me, and

586
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 1: so it's like, that's that's the end of our our deal.

587
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 1: At the fifth dimension, I'm trying to figure out how

588
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 1: to walk through the wall. I can't tell you how

589
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: to do that, but I guess some people have been

590
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 1: enlightened on this planet, some spiritual people, like supposed Jesus,

591
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: not Buddha, but Buddha witnessed that. When you read about

592
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 1: Buddha and Yoga and yogan and it talks about seeing

593
00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 1: these guys. This guy they kept putting in jail and

594
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: he'd end up on a roof naked and then say, hey, man,

595
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 1: how do you get out of jail? It was just

596
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: some guy that just had the gift, you know, like

597
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: like the Dalai Lama, you know that that's able to

598
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: feel and do things. But anyway, that fifty minsional thing,

599
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 1: I don't think we're capable. So you start getting into

600
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 1: twelve dimensions, don't ask me, Man, you're gonna have to

601
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: figure that one out for yourself. But I want you

602
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: to call me now. And I'm still kind of getting

603
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: used to like having a physical form, like I swear

604
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,719
Speaker 1: to God, I'm so used to being some sort of

605
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 1: floating soul creature that like all sometimes look in the

606
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 1: mirror and be like, oh, yeah, you look like that,

607
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 1: and you're a girl. So weird because I feel like,

608
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: truly in my soul. I know this sounds fucking nuts,

609
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 1: but like in my soul of soul, since I was

610
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 1: a little kid, I felt like I was like a

611
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 1: blue tiger that could fly. That's my soul. I don't

612
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 1: think you're crazy, cash, listen. I don't think you're crazy.

613
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: But that's funny. Like that's like if I looked in

614
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: the mirror and saw that, I'd be like, oh, there

615
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 1: you are perfect. I love looking at myself in a mirror,

616
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: straight in my eyes and for as long as I can,

617
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: and just and and all of a sudden, I start

618
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 1: smiling and laughing so hard, and you know, people think

619
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: I'm crazy. My wife, you know, she's going I'm saying, no, honey,

620
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: it's not an ego trip. No, I'm not a narcissist.

621
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 1: I'm not, you know, looking at myself, saying, oh, how

622
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: do I look? You know, I'm I'm just looking at

623
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: myself and and you can see, man, when you get

624
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: a glimpse, like, I think it's what you're talking about,

625
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: when you just feel you just everything goes away and

626
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: just see your own self and your eyes and your

627
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 1: eyes are smiling at you, and you're just oh God,

628
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 1: I just I could do that for long periods of time,

629
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: and I just feel like it's like the form that

630
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: I've taken. I'm such a goofy motherfucker that I'm like,

631
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: it's just got to be funny. You have to find

632
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: humor in all of this or we're so I just

633
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: have to. That's why I paint myself with like glitter

634
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: and wear stupid ships, because like, come on, you're doing

635
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: pretty good. You're entertaining this. You're entertaining because you keep

636
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: doing all that stuff. We love you. I do think.

637
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: I do think, like when you were saying that like

638
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: ghosts or entities as a performer when you're performing, I've

639
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 1: been told that you were projecting your energy so far,

640
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: and I assume you're like me from what I've seen

641
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: of you on stage and just talking to you. Now,

642
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: it's like I try to reach the corners of the

643
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: room with my energy. Like I know that people in

644
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: the very back seat. I'm like, I want you to

645
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: feel this as much as the person the very front.

646
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 1: So I just like go so hard. Apparently when you

647
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: project your energy that hard that you're opening up the

648
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: almost like the aura. It's just so big that you're

649
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: opening it up to so much energy. And then when

650
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 1: you go backstage and you take a shower and you

651
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 1: kind of like come back down to earth, that you

652
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: then may have all these entities that kind to cling

653
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 1: onto your your energy. And I believe that. I believe it. Yeah,

654
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: I've felt that before. And you can get sick. I

655
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: had a psychic tell me that I have to be

656
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: careful because when I go out on stage and I

657
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: open myself up to the end of the room, Like

658
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: could you say that you can actually get sick, not

659
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 1: like die sick, but I mean if somebody's you can

660
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 1: get a coal you come back and you're more susceptible

661
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: because you've opened yourself up in any entity germs or physical,

662
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: you know, spiritual can come in and and you know

663
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 1: have a little a little bite of you. You know,

664
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 1: totally they feed off of you, like like the negative

665
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: super negative. I think that's one of the reasons I'm like,

666
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: I'm into technology existing, I just don't know my participation

667
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: with it directly because it can be so hurtful. Is

668
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 1: because it can be very parasitic, like people can latch

669
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: onto you and like really just suck the life out

670
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: of you. But then other people are such life givers

671
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 1: and can make you feel so much more alive and

672
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: so excited to be alive, and so much more awake

673
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: and just give you energy. And you just got to

674
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: kind of choose. I have to choose carefully who I

675
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 1: spend time with. Oh yeah, you can be draining right

676
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: some some sometimes if you get filled up from a relationship,

677
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 1: and sometimes you get drained from it. I mean, I'm

678
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,399
Speaker 1: I'm a real victim because one thing that I thank

679
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: you and I you talk about, that thing we obviously

680
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 1: have in common, is that I am really willing to

681
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,280
Speaker 1: open myself up. I'm willing to just lay it all out.

682
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: I have no fear of that. And you have to

683
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 1: be a little bit. I guess, you know, every now

684
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: and then, a couple of psychics that I've seen that

685
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 1: because I've got four psychics in my life that have

686
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 1: blown my mind. A couple of them just warned me

687
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 1: about that that I'm too open and and that you've

688
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: got to be careful because you can get a little

689
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:49,439
Speaker 1: influence that you don't really need. I don't understand so

690
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: gullible that I have to be careful who I take

691
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: kind of like psychic advice from. So if you have

692
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 1: a really good psychics, s them my way. Please, No

693
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 1: good psychic can really be helpful to someone, you know,

694
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 1: Like even a thing as thin as astrology people think

695
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: it is. It's it is a way of saying an

696
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,919
Speaker 1: astrologers can really guide you to say, do not leave

697
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: your house today. He's saying, no, you're gonna walk out

698
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: that door and a freaking truck's gonna run you over.

699
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: You know, they can see it in your in your

700
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 1: chart even you know, if a good astrologer, Uh so,

701
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 1: that's what it's for. It's it's the print prevent you

702
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: from Um, that's the only way I heard. Here's another

703
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 1: thing I've heard say, I'm not giving I'm not the

704
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: preacher here. I'm just saying, yeah, you have to. Someone

705
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:34,839
Speaker 1: can not tell you don't go outside. They can warn you,

706
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: and you have to make the decision. It's the organic

707
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,280
Speaker 1: thing again, like the psychics are not supposed to interfere

708
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: in what's supposed to happen, but they can guide you

709
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: that you should probably stay home. I don't even know

710
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: if it's like that, but supposed that they have to

711
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: be careful doing that because they will also lose their gift.

712
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: One psychic told me he will lose his gift they make.

713
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: I always ask my psychic at the end of a session.

714
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: It's say I'd say, is there anything you need to

715
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 1: tell me that I didn't ask? You know what I mean?

716
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 1: Because because they're not allowed to just come and say, hey,

717
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: you better watch out. You know, don't you do this?

718
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,760
Speaker 1: You do that. They can't guide your life. That's illegal

719
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 1: in the in the karmic world. So I would always

720
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: say that is there anything I and they say, well, yeah,

721
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: you should probably stop beating so much meat, because you know,

722
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: I don't know you. I can see these things that

723
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: they don't necessarily tell you unless you ask. Chris, you

724
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: have to inquire or they have to guide you through

725
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 1: it not you know, they can't just say don't do

726
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,399
Speaker 1: that like your parents do. You know? Well that makes

727
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 1: more sense. That makes me like it more because I'll

728
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: just not ask the scary questions. I don't want to

729
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 1: know when I'm going to die and how it's going

730
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: to happen. I really don't want to know. Really, no,

731
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: you want to know. I don't know. I ain't afraid

732
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 1: of die in that's that doesn't bother me one bit. Man.

733
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 1: It's like, I'm I know I'm crazy, but listen, I'm

734
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: seventy three years old. So it's like, and I've done everything,

735
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,800
Speaker 1: I've had the most wonderful life in possly want. So

736
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,040
Speaker 1: I'm going, Okay, if I die, I don't want to

737
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,399
Speaker 1: die painfully or get hurt or something. But I don't

738
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: know what. Death doesn't scare me. I'm curious about it.

739
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 1: See I'm curious what. I'm curious about it too, to

740
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: be honest. And I have like a specific way that like,

741
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: if I were to plan on dying in a specific way,

742
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: I have a way that I would like to go.

743
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: How's that I want to I'm like, I'm interested, So

744
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: I would eat a fuck ton of Molly, and then

745
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 1: I would go swimming naked in the ocean, covered in

746
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 1: like dead fish and just have like a creature eat meat,

747
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: ideally like a shark or a orca. Wow. I like that.

748
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: I don't think that would be the most like painless

749
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: way to go, but it's like, then I could be

750
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 1: in the ocean, I could be naked, I could be

751
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 1: on Molly, and I be feeding a creature that I love.

752
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: I'm getting where have you been all my life? Where

753
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: have you been all my life? You can do half

754
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: that ship anyway, all right? I just want to I

755
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: love like animals, so I want like an animal to eat.

756
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 1: Is what I want? Is I want someone to eat me.

757
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: Or if I die of like natural causes, I would

758
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: want all my friends to come over and barbecue me

759
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: and like dip me and barbecue sauce because I love

760
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: barbecue sauce and like just have a little pieces of me.

761
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 1: Like I said, you could do half that ship anyway.

762
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 1: But that's a whole other story. Oh man Cash, anyway,

763
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:48,320
Speaker 1: you're a blast. You're fun. I'm just crazy. Oh so

764
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: you told me the one obviously probably really intense ghost

765
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: encounter with your father which must be emotional, and but

766
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 1: what was the other one? The same kind of a

767
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 1: thing my manager as a solo artist. When I joined

768
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,320
Speaker 1: and Halen, he became our manager for for ten years

769
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 1: and he died well for nine years. He died at

770
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: nine years and after managing us, and he was my everything.

771
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 1: My father died when I was young. This Ed Leffler

772
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: was my father figure and life. This is the same

773
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:20,399
Speaker 1: that told you about your father on the phone. No, No,

774
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 1: that was when I was a kid, when I was

775
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: just trying to play music for this guy said I'll

776
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: be your manager. He was just a nice man that

777
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: I met uh at a nightclub that said I'll be

778
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 1: your manager. Okay, And so I didn't have a phone

779
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 1: or anything back then. But no, this was later on

780
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: in life. This is Van Halen era. Okay. Ed Leffler

781
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 1: was our manager, and Ed had a thing about him

782
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,280
Speaker 1: where he could chill us out. He kept the band together.

783
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: When he died, the band broke up within a year

784
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: and we've been together nine years. He dies in Boom

785
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 1: we break up. Ed was a real controlling guy and

786
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 1: after he died, we were shopping for managers and we

787
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 1: were fighting, you know, like you know the band's do

788
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,359
Speaker 1: and so um they the guy said, you know, we

789
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 1: want this guy, we want that guy. We're interviewing all

790
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 1: these people, you know, Errol Smith's manager and um Neil

791
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: Young's manager. We just sheep Gordon Alice Cooper's manager friend.

792
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: So uh Ed dies. Finally the brothers come to me

793
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: and say, we're gonna hire Ray Daniels. Ray Daniels was

794
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: Alex's brother in law at the time. And Uh, I'm

795
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: good that guy, oh man Ed left Or hated him.

796
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: He didn't. I shouldn't say something that's unfair to say

797
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 1: that Ed left our manage didn't like he used to

798
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 1: say bad things about him, like, hey, that guy's a crook.

799
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,399
Speaker 1: You know you want to watch out for deck enough

800
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 1: for any reason other than you know. So all of

801
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 1: a sudden, Ed uh ed Al tell me that they

802
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 1: want to interview Ray Daniels. I said, are you crazy?

803
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 1: Left Or told us stay away for it, and and

804
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: they go, yeah, okay, but we want to we let's

805
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 1: have it, have a meeting with him. So I'm going, man,

806
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 1: it's sucked up. So that night I'm sleeping, Ed left

807
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: for comes to my side, who had passed him three

808
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: weeks before. That's right. He's kneeling next to my bed

809
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: and I smelled him. I was sleeping. I could smell him.

810
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 1: You know how some people just have a smell, will

811
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 1: you just remember? And he was that close to me,

812
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: so anyway, so I smelled him and I opened my

813
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,240
Speaker 1: eyes and I said, Ed, oh, And I started bawling

814
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: my eyes out, crying and said oh, Ed. I said, oh,

815
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 1: and I need your help. You know, like the band's

816
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: gonna break up and they're gonna get Ray Daniels. And

817
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: he said it's okay. And I said, I thought you

818
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 1: didn't like Ray. He said, well from here where I am.

819
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 1: Now he's he's the guy. He's gonna be your manager

820
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 1: and he and he said let it go. He told me,

821
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: let it go, and I said, oh my god. And

822
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: then he was gone. And here we go again. First

823
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 1: all up. And I went to the studio the next

824
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 1: day and said, fuck it, you guys want to hire

825
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: Ray Daniels. Hire him? And they hired him, and I

826
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: got thrown out of the band immediately, and then they

827
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 1: fired him. That's the I'm sorry. But Ed Leffler came

828
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 1: to me that night and told me, chill out. This

829
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 1: is okay, it's meant to be. But that sounds like

830
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: you're really loyal. Loyalty is a big deal, Yeah it is.

831
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: It sounds like you're just being loyal to someone you trusted.

832
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: So yes, I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing.

833
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 1: But it was weird because he was a ghost. Listen,

834
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: he had been gone for a couple of weeks, you know,

835
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 1: and uh, did you know he was a ghost or

836
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 1: what were you like? Every time I see Ed Leffler

837
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: in my dreams, which I still do every now and

838
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: then he comes to see me, And every time I

839
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 1: see him, I'm sitting there and saying, oh, Ed, you know,

840
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 1: we're having a good time. But it's always a little distance.

841
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 1: You know. It's never like hugging, it's never touching, but

842
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, he's in the room and I

843
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 1: see and it's oh man Ed, and and you know,

844
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: good sea has been a while. And then I'll said,

845
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 1: oh women, edge dead boom, dreams over gone. The second

846
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:52,879
Speaker 1: I ever acknowledged that he's past, he's gone, and that's

847
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 1: ten times are are more since he's been since he's

848
00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 1: been gone. So Kaliko was talking about how she has

849
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 1: been recently, like just diving into astral projection, which I

850
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 1: don't really know exactly what that is. The way she

851
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 1: was explaining it, it sounds almost a little bit like

852
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: what you're saying is happening in your dream where you

853
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 1: everything's kind of normal until you realize it's not and

854
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 1: then you wake up. Yeah, yeah, that's that's if she's right,

855
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 1: If that's what it is, somebody's astral projecting. I don't

856
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 1: know if I'm going to see him or he's coming

857
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 1: to see me, but you have to agree on that.

858
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: You've got to meet in different places. I know you

859
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 1: can't physically, you know, do certain things. So I think

860
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 1: it's like a halfway meeting kind of thing, you know,

861
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: you guys meeting another dimensioned kind of in the fifth

862
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 1: dimension or somewhere you can walk through walls that kind

863
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 1: of an area. I don't know, it's unexplainable and see

864
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: all that stuff. In case I was hoping you were

865
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: going to give me tell me how all this stuff works.

866
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 1: That's why I did a stamp show. Okay, here, let

867
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: me tell you about you. I know from the research

868
00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 1: I've done is I've spoken to a medium like knew

869
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: crazy shit about things I didn't even know about, and

870
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 1: like I ended up having to call different people and

871
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,320
Speaker 1: like found out that it was true. It's not google

872
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: herble information. It's insane. So to me that like it

873
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: made me feel warm and fuzzy inside because I don't

874
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: think that when you go, you're just gone. I feel

875
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 1: like we just can't see maybe things, or we don't

876
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 1: understand our brain can't comprehend it. But I know and

877
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: I feel people especially I feel like protection when I

878
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 1: need it, and I feel that. So I can say

879
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 1: from your stories about ghost I think that you people

880
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,919
Speaker 1: that wanted to maybe give you closure and peace. That's

881
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: what I'm like feeling from your stories. I call myself

882
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:44,280
Speaker 1: a spiritual explorer because I'm not closed off to anything

883
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: and I'm kind of open to everything and I don't

884
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: know anything. I'm just exploring. Yeah, no, no, that's saying.

885
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm with you. But Cosmic Christians is that

886
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:57,240
Speaker 1: I talk about cosmic Christians, about my theory about the UFOs,

887
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,959
Speaker 1: what the cosmic Christians, well, the cosmic Christians of people

888
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 1: that I believed at one time and it was my

889
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: own theory. I thought that I found out there's other people.

890
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: Is that you know that the second Coming of Christ

891
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 1: will be like in UFOs and spaceships, and they'll come

892
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 1: and take the chosen ones away to another dimension or

893
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 1: two heaven. I believe in the seated thing. I believe

894
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: in the I heard about the nuclear thing, you know,

895
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: through the things I've read about over the years, the

896
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,919
Speaker 1: nucletar thing about we can't have these nuclear things are bad.

897
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: We got to that, that's no no biend. We've got

898
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: to get rid of that. And and they're kind of

899
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 1: keeping an eye on things and watching it, but they

900
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 1: can't interfere. And so we're we're on the Yeah, we're

901
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: on the on the teeter tottering or we're going to

902
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 1: either go this way and destruct or we're gonna survive

903
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: and having you know, another version of this little garden.

904
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 1: This is a human garden. We have a life garden.

905
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,879
Speaker 1: It's a garden of life Planet Earth. It's it's it's

906
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,800
Speaker 1: full of life, right, It's it's green, it's got water.

907
00:45:55,719 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: It is that like how we all as a people,

908
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: as all of the people and animals of that eat

909
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: the grass that comes off of the ground, don't understand

910
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 1: that the there's like a symbiotic relationship with the place

911
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 1: we're inhabiting where we just like fuck it, Like it's

912
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: such a head trip to me, how like we don't

913
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:22,760
Speaker 1: understand that there's we need the Earth, so we should

914
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:27,359
Speaker 1: probably like love it and not completely fuck it up

915
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 1: like that to me is a mind trip. And like

916
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: if we just keep sucking it up, then I don't

917
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:33,800
Speaker 1: know to say. I hope the aliens come and get me.

918
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 1: I have a song actually about spaceship. That's like I

919
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 1: don't understand like half of the ship that goes on

920
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 1: on this planet. So just beat me up and take

921
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: me to wherever. I just for a good old adventure.

922
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 1: But I'm also ready to try another planet. I would

923
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 1: like to do it too. Yeah, I mean I'm afraid

924
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: of that. If the mother ship comes, I have like

925
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: a little spaceship tattoo. I'm ready for them. Please don't

926
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 1: get me if they get you first, would you come

927
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 1: and get me to just some say me gonna make

928
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: one more up. Yeah, I'll do the same for you.

929
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 1: We have a handshake deal on that. Okay. Do you

930
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: have a pet? Yes, okay, what kind of I have

931
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 1: a little dog, yeah, money, she's a little dog, like

932
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 1: a miniature Yorky like a pocket cute. And do you

933
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 1: love money? Not as much as my wife and my

934
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:30,240
Speaker 1: and my daughter. Yeah, Lacy, this was my question because

935
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 1: I was going to say, if I pick you up

936
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: on the spaceship, you're going to bring your pet. You're

937
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 1: gonna bring your wife? Oh? My wife? Oh yeah, it's nice.

938
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 1: I would definitely bring my cat. He knows, he knows

939
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 1: he's sitting here. He knows that cat is my soul mate.

940
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 1: You know, if I had the right bird, I'm a

941
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,399
Speaker 1: bird guy. If I had the right parrot, I would

942
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: probably there'd be a toss up because I love birds.

943
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 1: I'm just I just want to fly so bad. And

944
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 1: the cats and birds don't get along with Those are

945
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 1: the two creatures I like the most. I have four cats,

946
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 1: and like have lots of tattoos of cats. And I

947
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: just started looking up the yin and yang of the

948
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: feminine and masculine. Right, so I was meditating and saw

949
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,399
Speaker 1: this kind of psychedelic vision and I saw the yin

950
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 1: yang symbol, and I always thought it was so cheesy.

951
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 1: I was like, what is this symbol? And then I

952
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 1: started researching it and apparently the feminine is all your

953
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,320
Speaker 1: left side of your body, which I have a torn

954
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: a cell on my knee. I have a torn hip

955
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 1: thing for on stage. I have three discs in my

956
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 1: back on the left side and my shoulder all the

957
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,240
Speaker 1: way up the left side. The feminine is completely fucked

958
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 1: and the symbol is a tiger. So I have to, like,

959
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 1: I think, I have to balance out the feminine and masculine.

960
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 1: That's where I'm met in my life right now. It

961
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: really that's not a question. I'm just telling you, well,

962
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: you know, okay, I think you should just go ahead

963
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: and do it. Every your soul, in your little heart,

964
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:52,240
Speaker 1: you know, just desires and and pushes you any direction.

965
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: You should be fearless because you I'm not just I'm not,

966
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: you know, rubbing on you. You got talent. You're really special.

967
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 1: My now, I'll say, my twenty four year old daughter

968
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 1: turned me onto you because she's a you just fan,

969
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 1: and she came to see you and you played here

970
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,320
Speaker 1: in San Francisco about five six years ago, and I

971
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 1: got her in and she got to meet you. Her

972
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: name is came up, but anyway, and she she turned

973
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,800
Speaker 1: me onto you, and it's You're very special. I like,

974
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 1: I like your party attitude. You know how to make

975
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: people feel good and have a good time, and that's

976
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 1: almost that's important. Yes, I do. That's that's why I

977
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 1: love you. That's what I'm saying. It's important. It is important,

978
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:30,879
Speaker 1: and I think that like you have a good heart,

979
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 1: and then on top of that you add just fun

980
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 1: and then dancing, which I think is a really like

981
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 1: as adults were also self conscious and trying to be

982
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 1: so cool that people don't just act like idiot And

983
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 1: so by example, I'm like, watch me act like a

984
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 1: fucking idiot and dance around. This is giving you permission

985
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 1: to just like lose your mind and act like an

986
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 1: idiot and play, because I feel like the animals in

987
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 1: the world, they all play. It's important to play. Kids play,

988
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: and we grow up and we stopped playing unless you're

989
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: just like super drunk, which I you know, if you

990
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 1: want to do that, but yeah, but the same, I

991
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: can do it sober the same. But like, I just

992
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 1: want to create an environment where people can come just

993
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 1: like play like an animal, like a kitten, like a child,

994
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,399
Speaker 1: like just dance and like have your energy, just get

995
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 1: shaken up and just feel like not judged. That's my

996
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 1: goal in everything I do. Joy is important. Yeah, it

997
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 1: seems like you're like I love your tequila and like

998
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 1: I feel like you kind of have that environment to

999
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 1: where it's like, come drink some tequila, chill out, and

1000
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 1: like you can't drive fifty five. You just can't do it.

1001
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 1: Bring enjoy to the world is so important for entertainers,

1002
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, there's artists and there's entertainers and

1003
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:44,919
Speaker 1: everybody can be I like it when it's all mixed

1004
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 1: in like yourself and you just you know, you bring

1005
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 1: a great art and you bring visual and you bring

1006
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 1: joy and and uh enjoys. Everybody wants to be happy.

1007
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:55,919
Speaker 1: And if you can make somebody happy, hey you're doing

1008
00:50:56,000 --> 00:51:00,800
Speaker 1: your job. So yeah, you're like a fucking magician. Okay,

1009
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 1: if you had a cult, what would your manifesto be?

1010
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 1: And what would be the dress code? What would be

1011
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 1: the last manifesto? Your dress code would be like the uniform?

1012
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 1: Oh well, first naked, absolutely naked, I hate absolutely, and

1013
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 1: uh the cult would be uh that we yeah, that

1014
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 1: we just dancing party and play music and eat and

1015
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 1: drink and everything naked, you know, and not have and

1016
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 1: not have a weird sexual side to it, you know

1017
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 1: what I mean. It's like I mean, I'm sexual. I

1018
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 1: love it, but but I mean not that be the

1019
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 1: m O. No exactly, no perverted ship. Just like, hey,

1020
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 1: we're just naked and we are in front of each

1021
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 1: other and we can do whatever we want to be free.

1022
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: I would man that my cult would be freedom baby.

1023
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: Just that's a great tagline for your colt. My cult

1024
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:57,760
Speaker 1: would be freedom baby to a T shirt. Complete freedom.

1025
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 1: And last question, if and when you are a ghost,

1026
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 1: how and what would you do to haunt people so

1027
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 1: they would know it's you? Oh? What? Mm hmmm, I

1028
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm wow, I'm not sure I'd come and

1029
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 1: haunt people really definitely haunt people. You can be a

1030
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 1: friendly haunting. Okay, you know what I do. I love

1031
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:31,320
Speaker 1: to cook and eat. I'm a nut about cooking, but

1032
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 1: you know, in good food and good wine and stuff.

1033
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 1: Oh man, I would make things smell really good. Man,

1034
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 1: I'd like funk with him. Did Jill somebody cooking some

1035
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: food around here? You know, something like that's great? Yeah,

1036
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 1: they'd be coming downstairs chicken or kitchen and say, well,

1037
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 1: and I thought somebody was cooking? Who knew? I've learned

1038
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 1: so much about you. My version of hunting if I

1039
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 1: when I'm a ghost, is I'm going. I apparently can't

1040
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 1: put towels up like they're all over and all my

1041
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:01,840
Speaker 1: clothes her everywhere, So I would just come in and

1042
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 1: throw my underwear and towels everywhere, and then I dripped

1043
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 1: when I get out of the shower. It's something that

1044
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 1: me and my boyfriend find about, is apparently I just

1045
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 1: dripped water everywhere, and then it be the dripping ghost

1046
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 1: that man. Well, I, oh boy, well, if you ever pass,

1047
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:23,839
Speaker 1: if you passed before me, I'm gonna be on the lookout. Man,

1048
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 1: come to the towels everywhere, that'll be me. Oh man, listen,

1049
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 1: you're you're funny. I had no idea. I knew you

1050
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 1: would be like this. I knew you would be like this,

1051
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 1: but I didn't really know. So now I really know,

1052
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: and it makes me happy that you are what I

1053
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 1: see and what I meant is what you get right,

1054
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Fuck yeah. And tell your daughter I

1055
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 1: said hi, and I love her. And her name is

1056
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 1: Cama m A came love and Sanskrit. And I want

1057
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:57,359
Speaker 1: you to someday say hey, I met your dad. Thank

1058
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 1: you for doing this all right, thank you, Kesha let

1059
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 1: An honor same. You're the ship. Bye for now, Bye

1060
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 1: for now, Bye from now, for now,