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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Let's bring in our favorite, Sean Salisbury, morning

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Speaker 1: host of the Shawan Salisbury Show on Sports Talk seven

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Speaker 1: ninety in Houston. Sean, what do you make of this

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Speaker 1: chatter as they like to say that Russell Wilson is

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Speaker 1: maybe available or on the market. Dan, First of all,

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Speaker 1: it was great to be on with you. If anybody

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Speaker 1: talk about trading for me, would have been for an

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Speaker 1: apple and a roadback, you know what I mean. Now

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Speaker 1: we've got three and four and five first raters. It's amazing.

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Speaker 1: Then you start to think about head coaches and quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: and how they're tied to it, and when that starts

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Speaker 1: to go sour Carson Wentz Doug Peterson, because they're tied together.

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Speaker 1: When you're winning the head coach quarterback, everything's great, right,

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Speaker 1: we're kicking butt, everything's good. Start to go south and

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Speaker 1: everybody's like, well, they're tied. So the coach starts to say,

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Speaker 1: what's wrong with my quarterback? We saw it in the

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Speaker 1: Rams with golf and McVeigh and now and in Philly

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Speaker 1: and possibly here, but not because the coach here in Houston.

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Speaker 1: But with this Russ Wilson, Pete Carrollton. We've heard talk

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Speaker 1: of a little bit of strife, and you know, and

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Speaker 1: when that happens, you start to wonder. Three First, I

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Speaker 1: think they'd be nuts. Dan. There's not a guy. I mean,

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Speaker 1: when you talk about the three best not named Mahomes

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Speaker 1: in the league that you get assets for today, Rogers, Watson, Wilson,

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Speaker 1: why would you trade? Why would you trade the core

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Speaker 1: of your franchise. I mean, he's the guy that makes

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Speaker 1: them go. Now they need some help. He's obviously can't

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Speaker 1: get him to a Super Bowl without some good defense

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Speaker 1: and the rest of it. But I wouldn't even entertain it.

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Speaker 1: That being said, we get guys now that are a

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Speaker 1: little unhappy and things aren't going well. If somebody called

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Speaker 1: me up, or if somebody said that Rust Wilson could

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Speaker 1: be had for three number ones, and let's say Minnesota

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Speaker 1: and New England wanted him offered three. If I was

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Speaker 1: that team and I knew that they would give him

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Speaker 1: away for three ones, I'd crawl ten miles over broken

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Speaker 1: glass for that. I would. I think it's absurd. Why

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Speaker 1: were all this quarterback talk in the league that we

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Speaker 1: want to give away the guy that you got to

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Speaker 1: go find anyway. Seattle would be absolutely nuts. Now, if

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Speaker 1: they're in a whole rebuilding phase, fine, you're not going

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Speaker 1: to find a guy on the market right now that

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Speaker 1: you're gonna get that's going to give you anywhere near

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Speaker 1: the chance Russ Wilson does. Now, the Texans have said

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Speaker 1: that DeShawn Watson's not available. The Seahawks haven't said anything

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Speaker 1: about Russell Wilson. Right, but it feels like Deshaun Watson's

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Speaker 1: going to be traded, and I don't think Russ is

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Speaker 1: going to be traded by Seattle. What is if they're

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Speaker 1: not taking offers? You know, it's weird that it's public

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Speaker 1: that they're not taking offers, Like, how did it become

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Speaker 1: public that they're not taking offers unless they want to

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Speaker 1: continue to get offers, right, Dad? Right? And nothing's negotiable, right, Sure,

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Speaker 1: it isn't. Right, all of a sudden, somebody calls they

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Speaker 1: how about five first rounders and a couple of starters. Well, okay,

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Speaker 1: just all of a sudden became we're taking phone calls. Dad.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be impossible for them while they may

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Speaker 1: not be now, you know, darn well, when they're sitting

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Speaker 1: in a room Cassario and the guy who apparently has

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Speaker 1: all power in Jack Easterby and call McNair that they're

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Speaker 1: saying we may not be taking call. We got to

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Speaker 1: start to consider that option because while I would not

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Speaker 1: trade him, if I was at GM there, we wouldn't

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Speaker 1: never been in this situation, and I would exhaust every

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Speaker 1: opportunity which they're not doing, to see exhaust to find

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Speaker 1: out Jashun, let me hear you what is your concern

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Speaker 1: about this? Can it be fixed? And then I'd ask

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Speaker 1: him me and can it be fixed? And until the

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Speaker 1: point where I wore out the can it be fixed?

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Speaker 1: Then yes, you have to field calls. And Dan, that's

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Speaker 1: going to become more urgent than not. Why because you've

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Speaker 1: got to start to field those calls if you're going

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Speaker 1: to trade him, and you're not going to play lying

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Speaker 1: in the sand hardball before the draft, because you want

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Speaker 1: give you. So while they may not be fielding calls,

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Speaker 1: I'll guarantee you they're keeping a journal. This is my

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Speaker 1: opinion of Okay, we know what's out there. So while

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Speaker 1: the death saying don't call us. Watson's not available. Do

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Speaker 1: you think he is? He traded before the start of

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Speaker 1: the season, I would have sent now for me, I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't do it. Dan. The more I think about this,

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Speaker 1: coming back now I would. I think you're nuts to

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Speaker 1: trade him. But Dan, there's going to come a point

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Speaker 1: of breaking point where the fracture turns into shattered glass,

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Speaker 1: and I think you're gonna have to And if Deshaun

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Speaker 1: if you can take the risk. Will wait until August

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Speaker 1: to say, hey, we'll challenge him on this. And if

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Speaker 1: obviously have to consider it. And then that team's gonna

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Speaker 1: that their franchise is gutted and they're in a rebuilding

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Speaker 1: years to win even with Watson. I wondered about this,

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Speaker 1: out last night that the Bears weren't in on Carson Wentz.

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Speaker 1: They didn't even make an offer. Reportedly they need a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: The Bears to me, are a sneaky destination for DeShawn Watson.

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Speaker 1: I know we talk about Carolina and we throw out

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Speaker 1: the Jets. And if I'm the Bears, you missed him once,

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Speaker 1: don't miss him again. And you got a chance to

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Speaker 1: clean up after Mitchell Trubisky and you get the guy

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Speaker 1: that you want, or you should have taken in the beginning.

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Speaker 1: And look, I don't I don't have anything that would

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Speaker 1: make an offer for Carson Wentz. And Watson's better than

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Speaker 1: Carson Wentz, Dan and common sense, you're right, you don't

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Speaker 1: have any inside of this, but common sense would say

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Speaker 1: that's inside enough. Right, this would be the most gifted quarterback.

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Speaker 1: And I couldn't agree with you more in Chicago's history.

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Speaker 1: And it's not just based on pent potential. There's production

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Speaker 1: with Watson as well. And he's twenty five and you

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Speaker 1: got him under contracts for the next handful of years.

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Speaker 1: There is no doubt, Dan. And here here's what's interesting

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Speaker 1: the Sean McVeagh approach. Dan, I don't care about winning

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Speaker 1: the trades. I care about now Listen. Am I sure

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Speaker 1: that the eighteenth or nineteenth or twenty fourth or fifteenth

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Speaker 1: Watson is? No? I'm not. And the one thing, what

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Speaker 1: are we always saying about the Bears? I'm talking about

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Speaker 1: every year? Can I get a quarterback? Can we? And

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Speaker 1: Can we get a quarterback? Can we get a quarterball?

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Speaker 1: We got this and they've never had it. So if

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Speaker 1: you've never had it, why don't you go do one

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Speaker 1: they can't refuse and give you the one thing you

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Speaker 1: haven't had in decades that can Now you want a

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Speaker 1: to beg them to listen to an offer. There's no

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Speaker 1: doubt it's a sneaky and maybe Pittsburgh sneaky depending on

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Speaker 1: the Ben Roethlisberger deadcap money. But if you're Deshaun Watson,

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Speaker 1: I would think you'd want to be traded to a

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Speaker 1: opposed to have to go and rebuilding five years from now,

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Speaker 1: maybe not being a super Bowl because you're playing for

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Speaker 1: the Jets. Chicago is a sneaky one to meet Dan

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Speaker 1: and shouldn't be sneaky. It should be about to settle.

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Speaker 1: As a punch to the face if you're the Bears.

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Speaker 1: Talking to Sean Salisberry, former NFL quarterback, host of The

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Speaker 1: Sean Salisbury Show in Houston, the Dak Prescott situation, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's franchise tag day at least as started this here.

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Speaker 1: And I wonder if Jerry Jones is going to roll

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Speaker 1: the dice again and say, let me see what you

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Speaker 1: got for one more year. He coming back from the

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Speaker 1: ankle injury, and I can pay you decent money and

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Speaker 1: then we can find out if we want to do

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Speaker 1: a long term contract or franchise you again after that.

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Speaker 1: But give me the logic with the Cowboys here with

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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, there is none in my opinion. And I

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Speaker 1: love Jerry Jones, Dan, but this would have already been done. Listen.

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Speaker 1: He's been until this year, and he's going to come

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Speaker 1: back from this injury, just fine, Dak. Will I promise

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Speaker 1: you what more do you need to see? He wanted stats,

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Speaker 1: He gave you stats. He is he's I loved him

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Speaker 1: when he came out. I thought he was I think

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Speaker 1: I had him as the second best player in at

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Speaker 1: that position in the draft, and I think he fits

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Speaker 1: off the field. He can make every throw, he's accurate,

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Speaker 1: he's tough. His durability was beautiful until unfortunate injury this year. Dan.

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Speaker 1: I would sign him. I wouldn't even mess with this

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Speaker 1: because I always say this, I got a guy who

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Speaker 1: believes a franchise quarterback. What's the other option? Well, what's

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Speaker 1: the other option? Okay, I like Andy Dalton, but stop,

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Speaker 1: I mean, well, what's the option you want to go out?

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Speaker 1: While Sam Darnold may end up being a star in

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Speaker 1: this league, Well, I have that guy. Once again, I

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Speaker 1: just don't understand. You work as a general manager, a coach,

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Speaker 1: in a front officer, Jerry Jones, your whole career to

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Speaker 1: find that guy. He got one with Troyakman. If you

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Speaker 1: get a second one, and and Romo was a good

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Speaker 1: player too. Not everybody can be the Packers of the

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Speaker 1: forty nine ers. With those guys, you're you're lucky if

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Speaker 1: you get one of them. And I just don't understand

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Speaker 1: what you're looking for. The grass isn't greener. I got

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Speaker 1: news for you. If Dak Prescott's back and playing on

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Speaker 1: that team, they're a playoff team and Dak Prescott is

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Speaker 1: a top ten, top twelve quarterback in this league. Top ten.

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Speaker 1: I would pay him. I wouldn't even mess with it.

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Speaker 1: But I think Jerry Jones, I think he stumbled into something.

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Speaker 1: He loves the game. No, I think Jerry Jones stumbled

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Speaker 1: into something because let's say Dak comes back, he's not great.

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Speaker 1: I haven't given him that long term contract. They go

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Speaker 1: seven and nine, they don't make the playoffs, they change

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Speaker 1: their coach. You know, Jerry, this wasn't by design, right,

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Speaker 1: because you know they could have done this two years

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Speaker 1: ago and probably got him at a bargain. And but

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Speaker 1: this is where we are right now, and Jerry Jones

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Speaker 1: may go. And I didn't plan on this. But if

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Speaker 1: and Back on the program, we haven't had you on

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Speaker 1: to on the Eagle staff the last few years. Press

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Speaker 1: Taylor is there and those guys know how to get

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Speaker 1: the most out of him. Um, so you know, I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, we're maybe the rest of us saw Carson

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Speaker 1: Wentz as like, well, you know, maybe you can get

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Speaker 1: him back to what he was in twenty seventeen, and

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Speaker 1: you know he still was, you know, a guy who

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Speaker 1: has all this talent as a former second overall pick.

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Speaker 1: The league was sort of looking at him as somebody

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Speaker 1: who right now is broken and wasn't sure if he

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Speaker 1: could be fixed. Are the Eagles set a quarterback? No,

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Speaker 1: I think that I'm gonna put a caveat on that

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Speaker 1: and saying that it wouldn't shock me if we get

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Speaker 1: to May first and Jalen Hurts is the clear cut starter.

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Speaker 1: It also wouldn't shock me if we get to May

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Speaker 1: first and their serious competition on the roster, and that

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Speaker 1: could come with a veteran. But I think it's more

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Speaker 1: likely that the Eagles do everything they can to try

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Speaker 1: and get the best information they possibly can on the

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Speaker 1: three quarterbacks who could potentially follow to them. That's Zach Wilson,

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Speaker 1: Trey Lance, and Justin Fields. And I have it on

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Speaker 1: good authority that they are going to go through that

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Speaker 1: process with each of those guys, hold them up against

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts, and make a decision whether or not to

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Speaker 1: use the sixth overall pick on a quarterback. So I

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Speaker 1: can tell you right now that they haven't made a

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Speaker 1: decision that they're going to take a quarterback and sixth overall,

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Speaker 1: in part because they don't know who's going to be

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Speaker 1: there and they haven't gone through that process yet. But

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Speaker 1: they all have not made the decision. We're going forward

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Speaker 1: with Salen Hurts and we're going to take a player

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Speaker 1: to another position at sixth overall. They're very much gonna

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Speaker 1: look at those three quarterbacks. And it makes sense too too, Dan,

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Speaker 1: I mean this, I mean Howie Roseman has been there

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Speaker 1: twenty one years. This is only the third time that

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Speaker 1: they've had a pick in the top ten that they

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Speaker 1: that they were slotted to have, like the one steal

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Speaker 1: they traded up for. But in Howie Roseman's first year,

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Speaker 1: they had the sixth overall pick. In twenty and thirteen

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Speaker 1: eighth the fourth overall pick. Those are the only two

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Speaker 1: times previous to this one that they had a top

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Speaker 1: ten pick. While Howie Roseman's been there. Do you think

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson is being shopped or wants to be shopped.

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Speaker 1: I think the Seahawks may be sending him a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a message, you know, And I don't the

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Speaker 1: Seahawks were real happy with how he handled that period

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Speaker 1: of a few days, and I think part of it

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Speaker 1: was on your show, right, you know. I sort of

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Speaker 1: view this as like he sort of piggybacked on what

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Speaker 1: happened with Aaron Rodgers. Were Aaron Rodgers? To me? What

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers did in the twenty four hours after the

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Speaker 1: NFC title game was look through the other three conference finalists,

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Speaker 1: saw the Bills, went and got Stefan digs for Josh Allen,

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Speaker 1: saw how aggressive the Bucks were putting around, putting people

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Speaker 1: around Tom Brady, how aggressive the Chiefs were putting people

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Speaker 1: around Patrick Mahomes. And I think in a way, it

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Speaker 1: was Aaron Rodgers taking public some of the frustration that

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Speaker 1: he may have had in the past on how aggressive

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Speaker 1: that kind of gave Russell Wilson cover to try and

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Speaker 1: do the same thing, which I think really really, you know,

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Speaker 1: like privately angered some people in the Seahawks organization, and

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Speaker 1: so yeah, I think taking calls on Russell Wilson's way

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Speaker 1: different than trading him. And taking calls on Russell Wilson

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Speaker 1: could be sending him a message like hey, listen, like

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Speaker 1: you know, this is this is a this is gonna

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Speaker 1: be a partnership and if you aren't going to hold

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Speaker 1: up your end of the bargain, like we aren't afraid

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Speaker 1: to go and dip our toes in that water either. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think it was I think there's more to it.

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Speaker 1: I think it was calculated on Russ's part. Yeah, I'd

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Speaker 1: agree with they knew. And then you know, when I

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Speaker 1: talked to a source had said, you know that this

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Speaker 1: relationship can't last, it's not sustainable. Like that was to

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Speaker 1: add to what Russ, who uncharacteristically said this about the Seahawks.

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Speaker 1: And you know, once he opened the door, I realized

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Speaker 1: he was opening the door to welcome me in to

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Speaker 1: ask questions about this. So like, here's the one thing

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Speaker 1: I would say, there's a lot of history there, Like

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Speaker 1: there is. I mean, you look at it. The two

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Speaker 1: contract negotiations did get a little sideways before they did

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Speaker 1: deals right, and then you have the history going back

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Speaker 1: to fourteen, twenty fifteen, you know, when they were contending

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Speaker 1: for when they won the Super Bowl in twenty thirteen,

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Speaker 1: and how the defensive players there felt about Russell. So

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Speaker 1: that's part of the history. And you've had Russell kind

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Speaker 1: of grumble about the offensive line in the past. This

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Speaker 1: isn't the first time that's happened in the past, So

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Speaker 1: that's part of the history. And so yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: there's always been sort of like this tension, and that's

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Speaker 1: the way Pete Carroll built his program. If you look

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Speaker 1: at the way that it was when they were at

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Speaker 1: their best, there was definitely tension in that building. I

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Speaker 1: think there's always been sort of this lingering, underlying tension

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Speaker 1: between Wilson and the Seahawks, And like, does that resolve

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Speaker 1: itself with him being traded out of town? I don't

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Speaker 1: think so right now. I don't think it will happen

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Speaker 1: this year. Like does it eventually mean he's wearing another

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Speaker 1: uniform before he's done playing football? That I could definitely see. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's Albert Brewer's senior NFL reporter Jooning. Is this situation

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Speaker 1: with Dak Prescott. I don't know if Jerry Jones stumbled

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Speaker 1: into something because this wasn't orchestrated. But he might just

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Speaker 1: franchise Dak and say, let me see if you come

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Speaker 1: back from the ankle injury and if we don't make

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. I got an easy out here. And I

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Speaker 1: not that this is what he designed two years ago

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Speaker 1: or less than two years ago. But does Jerry want

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Speaker 1: to sign him up long term or does he want

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Speaker 1: to see him, you know, perform another year. I think

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Speaker 1: the injury is a factor, you know. I don't know

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Speaker 1: these out of the woods with that either. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this isn't an ACLL, you know, and they've got an

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Speaker 1: acl to the point where guys routinely come back from it.

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Speaker 1: I do think that the injury is a factor here.

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Speaker 1: I would say this like I just I think at

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Speaker 1: this point, Dak is way past the point where any

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Speaker 1: player would in his right mind give the team any

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Speaker 1: sort of hometown discount because of everything that he's been

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Speaker 1: through and because they didn't do a deal after three

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Speaker 1: years the way a lot of franchise quarterbacks get deals

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Speaker 1: done after three years. Because last year the negotiation, you know,

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Speaker 1: was so just kind of back and forth and back

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Speaker 1: and forth over the course of the offseason. I mean now,

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Speaker 1: I mean Dak has incurred thirty two games of injury

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Speaker 1: risks since they were eligible to do a deal. And generally,

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Speaker 1: when players incur that amount of injury risk and keep

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Speaker 1: playing on what they feel are below market deals, well

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Speaker 1: at that point, the player's gonna be less willing to

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Speaker 1: do any sort of team friendly deal. So you know,

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Speaker 1: now you have to if you accept that, you got

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Speaker 1: to look at Dax's for leverage. Right now, they tag him,

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Speaker 1: that's thirty seven million dollars lumps on for this year.

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Speaker 1: If they tag him again next year, Dan, that franchise

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Speaker 1: tag number is over fifty two million dollars. So Dak

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Speaker 1: by sitting on his hands right now, right, he can

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Speaker 1: collect thirty seven million dollars for this year and then

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Speaker 1: next year he either gets free agency at twenty eight

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Speaker 1: years old or he gets a fifty two million dollar check.

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Speaker 1: Like that's what the Cowboys have to beat now. Like, so,

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Speaker 1: if you want to talk about leverage, the Cowboys have

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Speaker 1: to put something in front of Dak Prescott that is

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Speaker 1: better than thirty seven million now and either fifty two

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Speaker 1: million or free agency next year, and they are going

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Speaker 1: to be tough for them to beat that they could

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Speaker 1: have got a bargain. Yeah, if they like a two

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Speaker 1: years ago, they could have gotten to bargain. So here's

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Speaker 1: the here's the counter that argument, though, Like you like

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Speaker 1: to get a bargain, you go in early and do

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Speaker 1: it after three years. Right, Look at Jared Goff and

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Speaker 1: Carson Wentz. Are you sold on Dak Prescott that he

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Speaker 1: is not Carson Wentz and Jared Goff. Yeah. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think he had a really good situations first year,

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Speaker 1: and I think that he was propped up to some

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Speaker 1: degrees first year, which happens with a lot of young quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: So and I think having the number one rushing you know,

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Speaker 1: the number one running game in the league, Zeke Elliott

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Speaker 1: won the rushing title. Um, you know, as a rookie,

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Speaker 1: all those different you know, circumstances that played into you know,

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Speaker 1: that twenty sixteen season. I think you could say to

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Speaker 1: some degree, Dak was propped up. I think what we

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Speaker 1: saw at the beginning of this year before he got

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Speaker 1: hurt was significant in that things weren't perfect around him

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Speaker 1: right before he got hurt, Like we saw the offensive

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Speaker 1: line issues, we saw the running game struggle, we saw

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Speaker 1: the defense really have problems, and really, to me, what

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Speaker 1: signing a quarterback to the big second contract is about

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Speaker 1: is Okay, now you're not going to have the freedom

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Speaker 1: to put the same level of pieces around him because

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Speaker 1: it's going to eat up a bunch of year cap space.

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Speaker 1: Can he make up the difference? And I think what

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Speaker 1: we saw early in the twenty twenty season is that

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Speaker 1: Dak is capable of making up the difference because we

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Speaker 1: saw it happen in a lot of different ways early

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Speaker 1: in the year. Now, you know, the obvious thing that's

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Speaker 1: complicating this is the injury and whether he comes back

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Speaker 1: and he's the same guy. But I do think if

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Speaker 1: you're convinced that he's going to be the same guy

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Speaker 1: that he was at the beginning of twenty twenty, he

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Speaker 1: showed us something that maybe we never saw from Jared

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Speaker 1: Goff in LA and we never saw from Carson Whites

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Speaker 1: in Philadelphia. Always great, Thank you Albert for making yourself available.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate it. You got Dan. That's Albert Breer, senior

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Speaker 1: NFL reporter, lead content strategist for the Monday Morning Quarterback.

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Speaker 1: we make the smooth segue to Michael Schilver, the NFL

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Speaker 1: Network reporter, and I don't know if he's ever been

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Speaker 1: confronted in a way like that where you thought maybe

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Speaker 1: you were going to be harmed. Michael, have you had

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Speaker 1: one of those moments in your career? Well, obviously, Dan,

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Speaker 1: First of all, I was told that there would be

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Michael, I'm sorry if you were deceived. You know,

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Speaker 1: early on I started out covering the forty nine ers

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Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty nine, and early on I was on

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Speaker 1: a trip to Atlanta in the Marriott Marquee with those

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Speaker 1: glass elevators, and on a Sunday morning, only Charles Haley

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Speaker 1: me with a and I want to throw you out

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Speaker 1: of this elevator face, And you know, we'd had our

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Speaker 1: back and forth, and he was a little erratic, but

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Speaker 1: I was kind of surprised. So I try to humor

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Speaker 1: and I said, what's that your game face? And he goes,

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Speaker 1: it's the only face you're going to see for the

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Speaker 1: rest of the year. And I was like, what four

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Speaker 1: sixteen hive off a little early? You got off on

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Speaker 1: the floor that what even your floor, not my floor,

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Speaker 1: not at all? All right, you got my attention yesterday.

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Speaker 1: The Seahawks are staying quiet in the wake of Russell

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Speaker 1: Wilson's recent comments on this show. But are they are

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Speaker 1: they taking calls or are they shopping him? Well, I

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Speaker 1: think you definitely got their attention. You collectively, your show

639
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Speaker 1: and Russell and some subsequent appearances. You know, it was,

640
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Speaker 1: if I'm not wrong, it was time to the Man

641
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Speaker 1: of the Year award, which is a great honor. And

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Speaker 1: I think they were a little taken aback and caught

643
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Speaker 1: off guard and not thrilled. But you know, there's a

644
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Speaker 1: long road between not thrilled and we're trading our franchise quarterback.

645
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Speaker 1: But you have two things going on. One, you know,

646
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Speaker 1: your show is popular and the rest of the league.

647
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 1: Rest of the league took notice and teams started calling like, hey,

648
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Speaker 1: what's going on with Russell and you have John Schneider,

649
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Speaker 1: the general manager, who I believe it's the best in

650
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Speaker 1: the game. But one thing that he has always been

651
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Speaker 1: true too is he's not one of these gms who

652
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Speaker 1: just says nope, not talking. For example, Nick Kissario, the

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Speaker 1: new GM of the Texans, currently has been telling teams

654
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Speaker 1: calling about Sean Watson, who has asked to be traded,

655
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Speaker 1: we are not trading him. Now. I believe they will

656
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Speaker 1: trade him ultimately, but they are not even entertaining those conversations.

657
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: But John Schneider has always been a guy who just says, well,

658
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Speaker 1: I mean, I think we're not trading Russell Wilson. But

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Speaker 1: since you called, what you know, what are you thinking?

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Speaker 1: So I said yesterday about a third of the league

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Speaker 1: has called, and there's a sense out there, and this

662
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Speaker 1: is from the team's side, not from the Seahawks side,

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Speaker 1: that three first round picks is about where it would start.

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Speaker 1: You know, do I think Pete Carroll wants to start

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Speaker 1: over with a new quarterback and reboot at this stage

666
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Speaker 1: of his career. No, but you know, they definitely are

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Speaker 1: aware that they have a quarterback who was at the

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Speaker 1: very least acting out. Do you know the ten teams

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Speaker 1: I know some of them. I just you know, I

670
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Speaker 1: haven't really reported who has called specifically on this one,

671
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Speaker 1: but can we know that now? We know no, But

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Speaker 1: we know the teams that are aggressively seeking quarterbacks right

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Speaker 1: there are a lot of them, and there are some

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Speaker 1: some of those teams have quarterbacks. That's why this is

675
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Speaker 1: so hard for not only me, but actual gms and

676
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Speaker 1: decision makers to wrap their arms around, because you know,

677
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: it's the Brady effect, it's post Brady fever. But you know,

678
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Speaker 1: last year seemed wild. Now we have a situation where

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Speaker 1: not only do you have all these enticing people coming

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Speaker 1: out in the draft, not only do you have people

681
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Speaker 1: who are potentially free, and then you look at now

682
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Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger's potentially in play, But then you have the

683
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: domino effect. Guys. For example, if the Raiders say, you know,

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson for three ones, we could maybe get a

685
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Speaker 1: one for Derek Carr and that's two more ones. Let's go, well,

686
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: then Derek Carr is now in play? Is Jimmy garoppolo

687
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: in play? Where Kirk Cousins or Matt Ryan be in play?

688
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Speaker 1: So that's why I think timing is really really key.

689
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Speaker 1: And we've seen the Stafford Goff Domino's fall. We saw

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Speaker 1: the Wentz Domino fall. Now you know there's Darnold, there's Roethlisberger,

691
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Speaker 1: there's potentially Russell. I don't think it will come to that,

692
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Speaker 1: but it's all being talked about. Do you think there's

693
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Speaker 1: been an offer, like a true offer for Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 1: That's a great question. I think the way that John

695
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Speaker 1: Schneider communicates, he probably has a sense of a very

696
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Speaker 1: basic framework of what teams would throw out there. But no,

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Speaker 1: I don't think what you and I would consider a

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Speaker 1: reportable offer as journalists, my guess is no. But I

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Speaker 1: honestly don't know because I will say this about the Seahawks,

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Speaker 1: unlike the Texans, who are the only ones talking in

701
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 1: that situation, and the player is not publicly talking to

702
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: Shaun Watson. And I hate that I called him the

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Speaker 1: player because that was sarcasm, because that's what Nickossario referred

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Speaker 1: to him as it's an old Belichick Parcels thing, So

705
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Speaker 1: that was a joke. But in the Seahawks case, Wilson

706
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Speaker 1: is the one who has talked and they are intentionally

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Speaker 1: being very very publicly quiet. I'm always fascinated with the

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Speaker 1: Niners because it feels like the Niners are in on

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Speaker 1: other quarterbacks. But then they try to tell you, hey,

710
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Speaker 1: but Jimmy Garoppolo is our quarterback. Jimmy Garoppolo is your quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Now he's not your quarterback for the future in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: So why the charade here with what's going Are the

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Speaker 1: Niners in the market for an upgrade over Jimmy Garppolo? Okay, well,

714
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Speaker 1: first of all, there's this whole new honesty thing. And

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Speaker 1: I had this conversation with Sean McVay even before Jerry

716
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Speaker 1: Goff was traded, because he was committed to not lying

717
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Speaker 1: in his mind, and I was like, yeah, but you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it started with I love all these people.

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Speaker 1: It started with Steve Kim when they asked him about

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Speaker 1: Josh Rosen at the combine when they had the first

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Speaker 1: overall pick, and he goes, yeah, yeah, Josh is our

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Speaker 1: quarterback for sure right now. And I was like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: don't try that with your spouses at home. You know,

724
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Speaker 1: definitely my soulmate right now. That won't work. So then, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, then obviously McVay did it, and you know,

726
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 1: less sneed than kind of went out and tried to

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00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 1: do bad stand up comedy and I thought it disrespected

728
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Speaker 1: a player that didn't deserve it in golf. And finally

729
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 1: we had Kevin Colbert, who doesn't speak public publicly much,

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Speaker 1: do it with Ben and kind of like whoa wa,

731
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Speaker 1: so um, you know, I think what the forty nine Ers,

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Speaker 1: kind of like the Raiders with Derek Carr, have been

733
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Speaker 1: pretty consistent on message, which is, we love this guy.

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Speaker 1: He's our guy. We're always looking at every position and

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Speaker 1: possibly upgrading. I think the most likely scenario with the

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Speaker 1: nine Ers would be Jimmy's back with a young quarterback,

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Speaker 1: you know, whether he's drafted or a young guy they

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Speaker 1: trade for to compliment him. But it is possible that

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Speaker 1: he won't be And so you know, you look at

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Speaker 1: a Kirk Cousins. I know how I see Kirk Cousins.

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Speaker 1: I know how fans buying large see Kirk Cousins, and

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Speaker 1: I know how a lot of other talent evaluators that

743
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Speaker 1: coaches see Kirk Cousins. But I also know that Kyle Shanahan,

744
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:45,359
Speaker 1: Sean McVay, Matt Lafleur, Mike McDaniel, those great coaches who

745
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: had him in Washington see him much differently, and you know,

746
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Speaker 1: they believe in their system that he's a really, really,

747
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 1: really good player. So I always kind of wonder, is

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Speaker 1: that something that the forty nine miners would be able

749
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: to swing if Minnesota would you know, would part with him?

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00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 1: You know, Kyle had, Matt Ryan, Darnold's out there, you know,

751
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: and Deshaun Watson is kind of sitting out there. You know.

752
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: Obviously a lot of teams would be very, very interested.

753
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: But there's price and there's timing and all that. He's

754
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,359
Speaker 1: Michael Silver. You can follow him NFL Network reporter on

755
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: Twitter at Michael Silver. Are the Steelers telling Ben? But

756
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 1: Ben's not picking up on the hint that they're ready

757
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 1: to move on. But let's do this in a gracious

758
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,439
Speaker 1: manner and we'll let you go out in style. I'm

759
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: really torn on this one because, you know, I'm told

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Speaker 1: that Kevin Colbert, after he spoke publicly, reached out to

761
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 1: Ben's camp and was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. That's

762
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 1: not what it seemed. So I want to believe that logically,

763
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 1: you know, they had to talk with Ben right after

764
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: the season. He was like, look, I want to come back.

765
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 1: They were like, okay, but we might be doing some

766
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 1: extreme homemakeover stuff. So let's talk in a few weeks

767
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: and be sure. And Ben's like, no, no, I'm sure. Well,

768
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: Pouncey has since retired, a very important guy. I think

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Speaker 1: we all look at the Steelers free agents and cap

770
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: situation and we go they're gonna have to make some

771
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: hard choices. So I think what's going to happen next

772
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Speaker 1: is they're going to have a conversation pretty soon this week,

773
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Speaker 1: maybe next week with Ben. You know guys who've men

774
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Speaker 1: who've done a lot of business together for a long

775
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 1: time are Rooney, Kevin Colbert, Mike Tomlin. Once he recovers

776
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: from COVID and Ben and they'll say, look, this is

777
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: what our team is going to look like. You sure

778
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: you're into this? Now, it's possible you're right that they're

779
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 1: gonna say, dude, we just want to reboot, thank you

780
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 1: for your service, you know, or something to that effect.

781
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,720
Speaker 1: If that's the case. I talk to one head coach

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00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: of a you know, pretty stacked team who told me, yeah,

783
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 1: I'm in that market. Not like I'm definitely signing Ben Roethlisberger,

784
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: but I want to have that conversation for sure. So

785
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 1: then the question would become just Ben want to keep

786
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 1: playing elsewhere? And you know we've seen Marinos say no

787
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: to that question. Aikman said no, Montana said yes, Barve

788
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:20,479
Speaker 1: said yes. You know, Brady said yes. So it's it's

789
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: one of those interesting scenarios if you had a better

790
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:28,919
Speaker 1: week's pay. Russell Wilson under center when the Seahawks open

791
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: up the season. Well, now you know you know that

792
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 1: I do okay, right, I was at SI, I went

793
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: to Yahoo and I advantageous time. Then NFL Network swooped

794
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 1: me up. So I'm not a gambler, but now I'm

795
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,879
Speaker 1: really I got to really like to be right about this.

796
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: I would bet that Russell Wilson is a Seahawk, but

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Speaker 1: I don't want to. I don't want anyone to just

798
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: take that out of context. What happened on your show

799
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 1: was a very legitimately significant event in the NFL world.

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Speaker 1: It has changed the course of some teams thinking, including

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Speaker 1: the Seahawks. And if he doesn't get traded, I don't

802
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: want people to circle back and go, oh, Dad, Patrick,

803
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: hype that thing up, you know, like this is this

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Speaker 1: is real? Well I didn't hype it up. All I

805
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: did is say yeah, I mean Dad, that was your

806
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 1: guest toast, that was Trey No. But I had I

807
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: had every network called during the show while I was

808
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: doing the interview, saying we want the Russell Wilson interview.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know about the first round picks. And

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Speaker 1: you said a third of the league is calling, but

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Speaker 1: I don't have any information on that. I just know

812
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 1: that I was told by source that this isn't sustainable

813
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: under the current condition. But that was that was a

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Speaker 1: follow up to what Russell was saying, which, as we know,

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Speaker 1: it's uncharacteristic for Russ to say what he said because

816
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: he famously tries his best to not say anything well.

817
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 1: And the in the caveat is that you know, Russell Wilson,

818
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 1: I could go to them today and say I don't

819
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: want to be here. And I think in that scenario,

820
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,760
Speaker 1: as with the Texans and Deshaun Watson, you have a

821
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 1: much more interesting stare down. You know you've had we

822
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: have plenty of NFL executives of coaches who in that

823
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 1: situation would say, I'm not letting a player of force

824
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 1: his way out. I will put my foot down. Mike

825
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 1: Brown tried it with Carson Palmer and even Mike Brown,

826
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 1: who you would think on paper would would make Carson

827
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 1: Palmer wait for ten years. He only made it October

828
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: before you know, the Raiders convinced him to part. On

829
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Speaker 1: the other hand, remember Kobe Bryant, the late great Kobe

830
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 1: Bryant told the Lakers, I want to out of here.

831
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: I want to be on the Clippers, and they were like,

832
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 1: I can't really hear you, and that worked out for

833
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: the Lakers in Kobe. So, I don't know. Michael, great

834
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Speaker 1: to talk to you, you too, Thank you, buddy. That's

835
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 1: Michael Silver, NFL Network reporter. I don't know if he's

836
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: an inside, you know, because that's that's the key. Are

837
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: you an insider?