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Speaker 2: We have Bo Benson and Chris Purfett Kevin Wyatt as

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Speaker 2: usually Alex Curry, but she's out for today. We are

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Speaker 2: going to we have so much good stuff though today

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Speaker 2: we have, like you said, NBA playoffs, we have the

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Speaker 2: NFL Draft letson a week away we're gonna have We're

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Speaker 2: gonna be joined by Anni Costabiel from the Chicago Sun

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Speaker 2: time to talk to WNBA because the draft just happened,

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Speaker 2: as well as Mike Golick Junior to talk football and

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Speaker 2: obviously we have to get his reaction to Taylor Swift

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Speaker 5: I don't know, are you a swifty?

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Speaker 2: All right, so you guys are gonna have to teach

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Speaker 5: It takes over pop culture.

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Speaker 2: This is another This is another instance where the Pacific

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Speaker 5: Playoffs, correct and these planes.

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Speaker 2: I turned on the Bulls game the other night and

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Speaker 2: a weeknight. But there are so many we saw it.

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Speaker 2: the thick of it today. There's multiple games on today,

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Speaker 2: but I want to talk about given that we're in

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Speaker 2: LA and they're always a big storyline, always, the LA Lakers.

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Speaker 5: I need.

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Speaker 2: I want to figure out their chances and how far

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Speaker 5: Yeah, last year, we all know how last year when

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Speaker 2: But the Lakers kind of hobbled into the playoffs last year,

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Speaker 2: whereas this year, the relatively I mean, Lebron is day

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Speaker 3: So to day?

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Speaker 2: To be honest, that's true. You turn thirty and it'll

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Speaker 2: just thirty five. It all goes downhill from there. And

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Speaker 2: and the Nuggets said as much. They're like, this is

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Speaker 2: I think they're due, so stop talking about it. He

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Speaker 2: was these, these the Nuggets are taking the Lakers seriously.

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Speaker 2: But I just want to know how seriously you are

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Speaker 4: So I grew up a Lakers fan, so know that

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Speaker 4: it's what I'm about to say is somewhat painful for me.

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Speaker 4: Oh No, I don't think they're gonna get swept. I

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Speaker 4: agree they are due, they are due to win the game.

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Speaker 4: Maybe they're going to win a couple games. But this

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Speaker 4: Nuggets team is just better. They're just a better team

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Speaker 4: than the Lakers. And that is taking no respect away

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Speaker 4: from Lebron nothing from that, Davis. They certainly are healthy,

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Speaker 4: they're certainly better than they were last year going to

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Speaker 4: the playoffs. However, this Nuggets team is just too good.

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Speaker 4: And Kyle Shanahan always says in the NFL playoffs, he says,

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Speaker 4: it's who plays the best for three and a half hours.

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Speaker 4: It's not necessarily the best team that's going to win.

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Speaker 5: That's great and great point.

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Speaker 4: And so I think what's different about, of course, the

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Speaker 3: And that breaks my.

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Speaker 4: Heart because I want them to go Lakers. But I

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Speaker 4: just think it's just going to be too tough a matchup.

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Speaker 2: No, I mean, you have to be realistic at the

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Speaker 4: Three being against the Nuggets last year. Sorry, guys, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 4: it's you'd think I was a Lakers fan with it.

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Speaker 6: Again.

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Speaker 2: He's healthy, he is healthy, the team around him is healthy.

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Speaker 2: But you know they were and this is the thing

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Speaker 5: But this is also matching up against a team who has.

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Speaker 2: Been hot essentially the entire correct season, and you have

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Speaker 2: it's it's going to be really interesting. And I hope

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Speaker 2: for Los Angeles fans, I hope for a good series.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I hope for a good series for sure, And

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Speaker 4: you know, I also want to throw out and oftentimes

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Speaker 3: They really maybe the NBA.

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Speaker 4: Playoff hopes should ride a little bit more on them.

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Speaker 4: But I would be happy to be proven wrong. I

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Speaker 4: don't need to be right all the time. And if

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Speaker 4: I just think the chances are not high.

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Speaker 5: Hey, they're getting Denver out of the way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, this is probably a good time to

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Speaker 4: But SUO in that last year they had them the

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Speaker 3: That was a tough series. So you know, we'll see

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Speaker 3: how this does out. That's why they play the game

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Speaker 2: Will be Well, speaking of the Warriors, what you're up

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Speaker 5: Is what is happening there?

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's you have such a good core and

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Speaker 2: Klay Thompson coming up in this offseason, he'll be an

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Speaker 2: Do you is this something where there needs to be

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Speaker 3: So I have a few thoughts on this.

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Speaker 4: I think the one being, of course, when you have

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Speaker 3: This is where it always gets tough. Eventually it has

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Speaker 4: Eventually, Guys games, they get older, their games aren't as strong,

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Speaker 4: et cetera, et cetera. But when you look at the Warriors,

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Speaker 4: really it's all about Klay Thompson right now.

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Speaker 3: That's what everything is about.

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Speaker 4: He's still a really, really good basketball player, but he's

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Speaker 4: They've been saying over and over they want him to stay.

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Speaker 4: The question is would he be willing to stay in

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Speaker 4: a somewhat different role. Is there another team out there?

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Speaker 4: We talk about the Lakers, The Lakers could.

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Speaker 3: Be a team like this.

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Speaker 4: There's another team out there that could have Clay come

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Speaker 4: But if he's gonna stay with the Warriors, it's gonna

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Speaker 4: to upgrade. So the question becomes, do you keep the

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Speaker 4: think you have to blow it all up, but it's

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Speaker 4: all gonna be around Lay Thompson. That is the big million,

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Speaker 4: multimillion dollars A question, MUTI ultimately do question right now,

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Speaker 4: I don't entirely know the answer that I know the

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Speaker 4: Warriors are the answer to that. It may come down

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Speaker 3: Kind of role.

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Speaker 5: very well, Brandon. I you again, some wide receiver drama

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Speaker 3: There's always drama going on with I know that's fair.

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Speaker 3: Tell me, Well, what he really wants is a contract extension.

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Speaker 4: I just don't think they're letting Brandayu go anywhere. I

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Speaker 4: just I think that he is a under contract for

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Speaker 4: another year.

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Speaker 5: Right, Well, there's that, so you would have to trade,

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Speaker 5: but you could.

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Speaker 2: While I think brand now Yuke is underrated in the

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Speaker 2: public sphere, in the fans sphere, I think everybody within

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Speaker 2: the league understands what Brandon and Ayuke means to that team,

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Speaker 2: sure what he means to that offense in particular, I

448
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Speaker 2: don't think that Deebo Samuel is Deebo Samuel without Brandon Nyuk.

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Speaker 2: I don't even thin Christian McCaffrey is necessarily Christian McCaffrey

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Speaker 2: without Brandon night Yuke.

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Speaker 3: There I think Christian Christian McCaffrey, no matter what.

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Speaker 2: I know he's I keep waiting for him to slow

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Speaker 2: down because he's like getting a little bit older and

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Speaker 2: like it just hasn't happened. But like watching him in Carolina,

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Speaker 2: like when I was with the Buccaneers and he was

456
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Speaker 2: the Panther's entire offense for so many years. Uh, it

457
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Speaker 2: can do it all, all these amazing things. But I

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Speaker 2: do think that again, this system just clicks and it

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Speaker 2: works because it's made up of all these different puzzle

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Speaker 2: pieces that if you take one away, nothing quite fits

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Speaker 2: the same. It doesn't fit as well in the Shantan offense.

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Speaker 2: And I think that Brandon Nyuk is absolutely a coveted

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Speaker 2: guy though, And that's what scares me is that there

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Speaker 2: are plenty of teams that do need a wide receiver. Now,

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Speaker 2: there is a pretty good ride wide receiver class in

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Speaker 2: this year's draft. Ye, so uh that probably works against

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Speaker 2: any sort of leverage that any other that the four

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Speaker 2: and I would have in a package for Brandon Aiyuk.

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Speaker 5: But I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I could see a team missing out on

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Speaker 2: they're like one of the big three wide receivers in

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Speaker 2: this draft class and being like, eh, like I don't know,

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers, I like, and you and you have this

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Speaker 2: year where you want to help out whoever's under center.

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Speaker 2: If it ends up being Russell Wilson, which I think

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Speaker 2: it will be, or even justin fields, you want to

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Speaker 2: have that reliable guy because you got rid of Deontay Johnson.

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Speaker 5: I just I want to know.

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Speaker 2: How much of a market there is for Brandon and

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Speaker 2: Iyuk and how much other teams are putting like a

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Speaker 2: full court press onto the forty nine ers, being like

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Speaker 2: agnit tradum, Egan tradum, we'll give you this.

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Speaker 4: Well, but i'd look at so I look at what

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Speaker 4: they got for Stefan Diggs in Buffalo and grit. Stefan

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Speaker 4: Diggs is older than Brandon, Yeah, for sure, but he

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Speaker 4: is a larger sample size. He's had many years of

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Speaker 4: being one heck of a wide receiver. No matter what

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Speaker 4: Twitter wants to say and how Bill's Twitter wants to

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Speaker 4: make themselves feel better, Stefan Diggs as a top receiver

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Speaker 4: in this league. So when you look at what the

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Speaker 4: Bills got for Diggs, I think it gives kind of

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Speaker 4: an idea of what the fort nine ers would get

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Speaker 4: for Brandon, and I don't know if it's going to

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Speaker 4: be enough. But going back to Christian McCaffrey, I think

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Speaker 4: Christian also creates an interesting situation in which when the

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Speaker 4: forty nine ers, if the forty nine ers have to

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Speaker 4: make a tough decision and they may not teams figured

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Speaker 4: out the CAF is a myth, they can figure out

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Speaker 4: how to do. I mean, I don't I think it's

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Speaker 4: a myth, but I think it's it's not a myth,

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Speaker 4: but you can we see teams doing it all these

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Speaker 4: You can maneuver, you could get things to work. We

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Speaker 4: see them restructure contracts all the time. And this is

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Speaker 4: a team also that's very team first and not me first,

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Speaker 4: so we see a lot of things happen. Say it's

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Speaker 4: a myth, but it can be maneuvered. So they can

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Speaker 4: probably end up paying Brandon and Debo long term and

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Speaker 4: it might be fine. But if they're making decisions long term,

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Speaker 4: you have Christian McCaffrey, you need Brandon Aiyuk. Deebo is

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Speaker 4: an incredible talent, he's so unique, he is amazing this offense.

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Speaker 4: Mile Shanahan trust him implicitly. But if you are having

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Speaker 4: to make decisions and you already have Christian McCaffrey, you

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Speaker 4: need to keep Brandon Ayuk. You might have to make

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Speaker 4: a different decision later. I just I don't think Brandon

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Speaker 4: ayukuld go anywhere. That's my If I'm wrong, I'm wrong,

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Speaker 4: But I just don't think brand Night's going on.

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Speaker 2: We're we're gonna find out probably Thursday, and then again

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Speaker 2: we'll see if he shows up for mandatory Mini caamb

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Speaker 2: in June. But right now we're going to go over

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Speaker 2: to Kevin Wyatt for an update.

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Speaker 8: You got seven minutes to go in the second quarter

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Speaker 8: up in Minneapolis, the second playoff game of the day

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Speaker 8: in the NBA, with the Timberwolves leading the Phoenix Suns

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Speaker 8: by a score of forty to thirty six. Kevin Durant

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Speaker 8: the leading scorer for Phoenix. He's got eleven points, a

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Speaker 8: couple of boards, and to steal. As for the Timberwolves,

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Speaker 8: it's Rudy Gobert leading the way with six points and

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Speaker 8: nine rebounds. As Minnesota and Phoenix in a high shooting affair.

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Speaker 8: As a Phoenix sixteen to thirty so far shooting the

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Speaker 8: basketball three is seven from the three point line. Not

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Speaker 8: quite as great of a pace for Minnesota, but they

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Speaker 8: do have the lead sixteen thirty five shootings so far.

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Speaker 8: As again, we got about seven minutes to go in

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Speaker 8: the second quarter.

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Speaker 6: The first game of the day Cavaliers and Magic.

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Speaker 8: The Cleveland Cavaliers putting on a defensive clinic, holding the

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Speaker 8: Magic to just thirty two percent shooting in a ninety

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Speaker 8: seven two eighty three victory. Donovan Mitchell thirty points and

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Speaker 8: three assists as well as three steals. Evan Mobley sixteen

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Speaker 8: points and eleven rebounds also had himself three blocks as

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Speaker 8: the Cavaliers take a one nothing series lead in this

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Speaker 8: best of seven first round matchup.

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Speaker 6: In Major League Baseball, they.

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Speaker 8: Needed extra innings to get any runs across the board,

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Speaker 8: and it's the Tampa Bay Rays out last of the Yankees,

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Speaker 8: two nothing in ten innings as Nester Corts has nine

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Speaker 8: strikeouts in seven shutout innings. Zach Effln six strikeouts in

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Speaker 8: six shutout innings, I'll swear. In Major Lee Baseball, they're

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Speaker 8: into the bottom of the seventh inning in Saint Louis

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Speaker 8: as the Browers pulling away.

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Speaker 6: From this one.

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Speaker 8: They're leading at nine to four, twins on top of

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Speaker 8: the Tigers four to three. They're in the bottom of

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Speaker 8: the eighth inning up in the Twin Cities and at

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Speaker 8: Regular Field they're heading to the ninth inning and the

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Speaker 8: top of the ninth inning as the Cubs trying to

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Speaker 8: close out the first of a doubleheader with the Miami

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Speaker 8: Marlin Chicago ahead at two to one.

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Speaker 6: Top of the second inning.

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Speaker 8: Up in San Francisco, Giants over the Diamondbacks two to one,

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Speaker 8: Red Sox leaving the Pirates to nothing. They're in the

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Speaker 8: bottom of the second over in Pittsburgh Nationals Astros are

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Speaker 8: tied at one in the bottom of the second Mets

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Speaker 8: lead the Dodgers won nothing and they are heading to

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Speaker 8: the bottom of the first out in Los Angeles, back

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Speaker 8: to you.

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Speaker 5: Guys, Dodgers just got on the boards.

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Speaker 2: So now we've got one to one with the Mets

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Speaker 2: and the Dodgers basically voted.

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Speaker 6: And they just get up did get one.

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Speaker 2: So one one here here in Los Angeles, which it's

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Speaker 2: now sunny.

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Speaker 5: It was it was going earlier, but all right, so

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Speaker 5: much baseball going on.

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Speaker 2: Holy Holy Jesus, Like, oh my god, I didn't realize

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Speaker 2: how many games we're going on right now. But we're

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Speaker 2: going to switch to something that just happened this week

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Speaker 2: Monday night, following the National Championship, record breaking National Championship,

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Speaker 2: women's sports are having this wonderful moment and this moment

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Speaker 2: is going to continue. It's going to be more than

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Speaker 2: a moment. I want to keep start saying that it's

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Speaker 2: be more than a moment. And to talk about that,

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Speaker 2: I have my dear, dear friend Annie Costabiel, who covers

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Speaker 2: the WNBA, among other things, talk about a renaissance woman

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Speaker 2: for the Chicago Sun Times.

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Speaker 5: Annie, are you there? How are you?

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Speaker 9: Sarmon?

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Speaker 10: I'm smiling so big. I can't believe that I'm on

589
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Speaker 10: your show right now and we're not like getting you know,

590
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Speaker 10: martinis right now. I know I love I love.

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Speaker 2: Either same, same, And honestly, if I had my way,

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Speaker 2: we'd be drinking martinis and doing I'd.

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Speaker 10: Tell me, tell me once. Sounds like an ideal broadcast.

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Speaker 5: Annie, I'm so excited to have you on.

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Speaker 2: And honestly, not only is women's sports getting their moment

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Speaker 2: via the NCAA Women's Tournament now the WNBA, but that

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Speaker 2: means that people like you that have covered this league

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Speaker 2: and especially the Chicago Sky and have been such an

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Speaker 2: advocate for women's basketball are getting there shine too. And

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Speaker 2: it warms my heart because you work so hard. You

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Speaker 2: are so detailed all of your the articles that appear

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Speaker 2: in Chicago sometimes I mean This woman waxes poetic and

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Speaker 2: makes me, like honestly want to cry anytime she talks

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Speaker 2: about women's sports. It's incredible. And I just want to

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Speaker 2: get your thoughts on this shift and how we can

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Speaker 2: maintain this momentum for a really good product that was

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Speaker 2: overlooked for so long.

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Speaker 10: Yeah. I really appreciate you saying that first and foremost.

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Speaker 10: But the thing that stands out to me when I

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Speaker 10: think about why our coverage has been successful is because

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Speaker 10: we don't cover the sky as like some one off

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Speaker 10: glory story about you know, women doing good in the community,

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Speaker 10: or look at women they're so strong and powerful, like

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Speaker 10: we cover We cover this as a sport. This is

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Speaker 10: a sport that's entertaining, that has a super strong fan base,

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Speaker 10: and it deserves coverage. And when you cover it that way,

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Speaker 10: when you show up that way, I mean, look at

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Speaker 10: what just happened with the NCAA tournament. This isn't a coincidence.

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Speaker 10: Of course, Caitlyn Clark has brought unprecedented eyes to this sport,

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Speaker 10: but look at what happens when the game is put

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Speaker 10: in primetime slots. People tune in, you know, And I

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Speaker 10: think that's what we need to give more effort too,

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Speaker 10: is putting these broadcasts in primetime spots and dedicating great

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Speaker 10: reporters to covering these teams in these sports as we

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Speaker 10: do every other team in major cities. Right It's like,

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Speaker 10: it's not rocket sciences, Like, just show up and cover

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Speaker 10: the sport in a traditional manner and you're going to

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Speaker 10: see results.

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Speaker 4: I love that you said that, because that is the

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Speaker 4: reality of it. And putting the games in primetime spots

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Speaker 4: obviously changes things dramatically. And then there is, of course

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Speaker 4: the Caitlin Clarks effect. But how important is it that

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Speaker 4: the rest of these incredibly talented women in the WNBA

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Speaker 4: are also getting their shine and getting their time and

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Speaker 4: the coverage that they deserve. And obviously the fact Katelyn

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Speaker 4: Clark has had has been incredible, but we want that

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Speaker 4: to continue throughout the league.

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Speaker 10: Oh my god, I can't say enough about this. So

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Speaker 10: one example I'll you is like in Chicago, right back

640
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Speaker 10: when the Sky won the twenty twenty one championship, there

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Speaker 10: was a lot of attention. Rightfully, so on Candace Parker.

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Speaker 10: She comes home these these everything she touches turns to gold.

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Speaker 10: When Candace Parker enters a room, enters an organization, it

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Speaker 10: just blows up. It's really remarkable to see the touch

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Speaker 10: that Candace Parker has on anything she's a part of.

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Speaker 10: But in her joining the Sky, it brought eyes to

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Speaker 10: all these other players again, and we had been covering them,

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Speaker 10: but it brought eyes and attention to all these other

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Speaker 10: players that had been there, that had been putting in

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Speaker 10: the work, that had been building the Sky to a

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Speaker 10: point that even warranted a player like Candice Parker to

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Speaker 10: come home and sign with the Sky. Two of them specifically,

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Speaker 10: I'm talking about our Courtney vander Slut and Ali Quigley.

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Speaker 10: So anyways, my point is Kayln Clark might bring these

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Speaker 10: eyes and attention to the w ones that have not

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Speaker 10: been there before, but once they're there, they're going to

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Speaker 10: be drawn to all of these other names, all these

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Speaker 10: other talents that have existed and built the lead to

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Speaker 10: a point where Kayln Clark can even enter it and

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Speaker 10: have so much power and to be put in a

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Speaker 10: position to have so much success right like this. One

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Speaker 10: conversation that's going on right now that is so hilarious

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Speaker 10: to me is that somehow Diana Tarassi has been dubbed

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Speaker 10: a hater of Kaitlin Clark, and it's like, if anybody

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Speaker 10: knows Diana t Rossi, SE's one of the toughest competitors

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Speaker 10: that exists anywhere in the world. If you think Diana

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Speaker 10: Tarassi's waiting for Kaitlin Clark with flowers on the basketball court,

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Speaker 10: please sit down, okay, like you want to. She wants

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Speaker 10: to go at it with this young woman, and that

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Speaker 10: doesn't take away from the game. That in fact adds

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Speaker 10: to it.

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Speaker 9: So let's enjoy it now.

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Speaker 2: That was so much of the discourse too with Kaitlyn

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Speaker 2: Clark and Angel Reese in college, where they're like, oh,

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Speaker 2: you know, they hate each other because they're chirping back

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Speaker 2: and forth. I'm like, when have you ever thought that

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Speaker 2: two men hate each other because they're chirping back and

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Speaker 2: forth on the court or on the field or wherever.

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Speaker 2: Women are just as big a competitors as men are.

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Speaker 2: Diana Tarassi doesn't want Kitlyn Clark coming for all of

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Speaker 2: her records.

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Speaker 5: Are you kidding?

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Speaker 2: This is very elementary sportsmanship, and I really appreciate that

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Speaker 2: we're seeing it level off because I think that that

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Speaker 2: is a indication of the fact that we're making some progress.

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Speaker 2: And I want to know how close we are, because

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Speaker 2: there's another fun social media thing going around about people

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Speaker 2: finding out how much Kitlyn Clark is about to make

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Speaker 2: in her WNBA first contract, and it's peanuts compared to

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Speaker 2: what we're used to professional athletes getting paid. We hear

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Speaker 2: that the commissioner of the WNBA is now going to

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Speaker 2: try to fight for more money in these media rights deals.

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Speaker 2: How close are we to seeing the revenue kind of

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Speaker 2: start matching the product and these women start getting paid

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Speaker 2: a little bit more of what they're worth.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, So that media rights steal is going to play

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Speaker 10: a huge, huge role in it, right Because the collective

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Speaker 10: Bargaining Agreement that the WNBA signed was ratified in twenty

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Speaker 10: twenty I believe, and extends through twenty twenty six. But

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Speaker 10: the players can opt out at the end of this year.

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Speaker 10: So if they do when they do, essentially because it's

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Speaker 10: assumed that they will, that meteor rights deal that they

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Speaker 10: negotiate for is going to have a huge impact on

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Speaker 10: their salaries. I mean, as we saw the historic deal

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Speaker 10: that was executed at the collegiate level was significant, and

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Speaker 10: the commissioner spoke about, you know, she's looking to at

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Speaker 10: least double and when I say at least, I tweeted

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Speaker 10: about this because yes, at the very very very least,

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Speaker 10: like that's just the jumping off point. You should not

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Speaker 10: sign anything that's only double of what the media rights

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Speaker 10: deal is now. But it's it's it's going to play

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Speaker 10: a significant role. But the other thing we need to

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Speaker 10: talk about here is is the investment outside of just

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Speaker 10: the media rights deal. Right, we know that the NBA

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Speaker 10: is a lucrative business because of all the eyes on

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Speaker 10: the NBA. Well why aren't all those eyes on the NBA,

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Speaker 10: major corporations, major companies partner with the NBA. Why does

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Speaker 10: that happen? We'll look at all the investment, look at

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Speaker 10: look at all the media investment from from local to

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Speaker 10: national that gets put into men's sports leagues. It doesn't

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Speaker 10: even stop at the NBA, right, It's it's all of

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Speaker 10: these men's sports leagues. And of course they've existed for

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Speaker 10: a long time, longer than our women's sports leagues have.

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Speaker 10: There's a reason for that title. NIND shout out you guys,

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Speaker 10: put us on the map, and we have a lot

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Speaker 10: of time to make up. But now that we see

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Speaker 10: finally people's eyes are open to the lucrative product that

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Speaker 10: is the WNBA and women's sports. It's time to show

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Speaker 10: up in a meaningful way, even if you know we're

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Speaker 10: not ESPN, even if we're not these major corporations, because again,

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Speaker 10: it goes back to that first point I was making.

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Speaker 10: This is an entertaining product. It's just good business to

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Speaker 10: show up and cover these teams.

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Speaker 2: Annie, I'm so excited for you too, because the Chicago

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Speaker 2: skuy made some moves in the draft. They got not

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Speaker 2: only Angel Reese, but Camilla Cardozo, who was so instrumental

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Speaker 2: in South Carolina's undefeated season winning the championship.

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Speaker 5: We got some big girls.

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Speaker 2: We've got some size on the sky now, and I

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Speaker 2: am so excited to see what they end up doing,

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Speaker 2: how you end up covering it.

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Speaker 5: I cannot thank you enough for coming on. Annie.

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Speaker 2: Tell everybody where they can find you and where they

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Speaker 2: can follow along on your wonderful coverage.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, you guys can subscribe at the Chicago Sun Times.

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Speaker 10: Don't be alarmed. I know it may seem like that

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Speaker 10: comes with some costs or something that's completely free. Login subscribe,

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Speaker 10: give us your email, and that's all you have to

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Speaker 10: do to read all of our coverage. And then for me,

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Speaker 10: you guys can follow me Annie Costa on all social

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Speaker 10: media platforms. I'm on TikTok two guys.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I love a TikTok queen.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Annie, thank you so much, guys.

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Speaker 5: Okay, And with that we are. We will have some more.

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Speaker 2: NFL conversations when we come back, and some NBA.

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Speaker 5: Superlatives as well.

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Speaker 2: To switch back over to the men's game, join us,

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Speaker 2: stay right here, see you in a little bit. Oh

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Speaker 2: my god, just what I think the nineties are so bad?

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Speaker 5: Guys.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I'm Carmen Vitally. We're broadcasting live from thee tirec

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Speaker 2: dot Com studios for Fox Sports Saturday. I am joined

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Speaker 2: by Tracy Sandler because Alex Curry is out today. Before

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Speaker 2: we get to more NBA's perlatives, before we get to

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Speaker 2: the NFL Draft.

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Speaker 5: We have some dues or don'ts on deck for you.

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Speaker 1: Highlighting the dues that putting a spotlight on the don't.

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Speaker 6: The subject brings me.

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Speaker 1: No joy on crack, It's time for the dues and

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Speaker 1: the don'ts in sports.

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Speaker 5: We got there, We got there, Chris. We love it

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Speaker 5: all right. I've got a don't.

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Speaker 2: Just start out with don't mess with Jimmy Butler. Kelly

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Speaker 2: you Bray Junior landed on Jimmy Butler's leg in the

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Speaker 2: Heat sixers game, which forced Butler finished the game, but

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Speaker 2: it forced him to miss the Heat's play in game

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Speaker 2: verst the Bulls. Spoiler alert, they still won, much to

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Speaker 2: my sgrin.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 2: But Butler commented on the Heat's Instagram post announcing his

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Speaker 2: injury by tagging Kelly literally added him and said, we

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Speaker 2: throw in hands, and I'm like, I love this first

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Speaker 2: of all, because obviously Jimmy's frustrated. He's going to be

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Speaker 2: out for a few weeks and he's going to miss

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Speaker 2: this first series.

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Speaker 5: Uh. And I just love the fact that he was

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Speaker 5: not getting shy away from it. He just added.

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Speaker 2: Kelly was like, you know what, screw you, dude. I'm

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Speaker 2: really mad and you you cost like my team probably

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Speaker 2: one of its best players. So I I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I love Jimmy Butler from the time in Chicago.

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Speaker 5: He'll always be a bole to me.

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Speaker 2: I know that that's, you know, not the nobody else

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Speaker 2: thinks of him that way.

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Speaker 5: But that's okay, we you.

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Speaker 4: Do, and that's all the matter Himmy Butler, Jimmy Butler.

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Speaker 4: I like that Ebo once called Garoppolo himmy g himmy Garoppolo.

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Speaker 5: I loved all the hemmi puns.

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Speaker 3: All the hemmy puns are great.

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Speaker 5: What do you have? I think you're a little bit

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Speaker 5: more positive.

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Speaker 3: Than I'm a little more positive minor bold dues.

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Speaker 4: So I'll start with my first du Both of my

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Speaker 4: dues are around two of my favorite NFL dads that

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Speaker 4: are just so dads.

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Speaker 3: And everything about them.

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Speaker 4: So I'm going to start with Kirk Cousins, who tweeted

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Speaker 4: the other day that that didn't take long about three

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Speaker 4: weeks in and one of his teammates turned him at

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Speaker 4: lunch and said, you give off so many dad vibes,

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Speaker 4: and my thing with that is be.

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Speaker 5: You do be you be me.

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Speaker 2: Well, I not know that coming in like her, Cousins

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Speaker 2: literally has like a coal sponsorship, but this exactly did

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Speaker 2: you not know that?

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Speaker 5: He's like the ultimate dad?

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Speaker 4: But I love I love the idea of him just

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Speaker 4: sitting in the falcons the cafeteria eating his lunch and

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Speaker 4: then he's.

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Speaker 3: Like, you, dude, you're just such a dad, and I

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Speaker 3: love it.

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Speaker 4: So one of the things I love about Kirk Cousins

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Speaker 4: is that he's just so unapologetically himself and he embraces

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Speaker 4: it and I love that.

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Speaker 3: So that's my first doo.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well I have another do and this actually doesn't

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Speaker 2: have to do with sports, but there were a couple

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Speaker 2: of people that commented on it, like celebrities and athletes

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Speaker 2: and stuff like that, do live up to your character.

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Speaker 2: And you might think that that stiguratively. I'm taking it

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Speaker 2: quite literally because I'm a huge Law and Order Rescue

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Speaker 2: you fan. Mriska Harjte, who plays Detective Benson on the show.

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Speaker 5: She was filming in New.

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Speaker 2: York and a little girl was literally lost in Central

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Speaker 2: Park as they were filming, and came up to her

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Speaker 2: thinking that she was a real and she helped her

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Speaker 2: find her mother, and I'm like, oh my god, this

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Speaker 2: is exactly what Detective Benson would do.

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Speaker 5: It was the coolest thing.

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Speaker 2: And he's been on forever and ever and ever. I

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Speaker 2: mean I binged it in high school. So this was

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Speaker 2: just one of the things that everybody got in on.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it was plastered on Sony people socials. It's

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Speaker 2: just it's one of those like the universe just kind

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Speaker 2: of comes together and wraps everything up in like a

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Speaker 2: feel good little bow. And I thought that was great,

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I love that a little bit of a

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Speaker 2: little loop.

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Speaker 3: But my last do is do be a man of

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Speaker 3: your word.

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Speaker 4: And of course this will be my favorite one to

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Speaker 4: talk about is Jim Harvaugh back in Ann Arbor this

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Speaker 4: weekend for the National Championship ring ceremony and the spring game.

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Speaker 4: And he had said before the season started, if Michigan

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Speaker 4: won a national championship, he would get a tattoo, and

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Speaker 4: he got one before the spring game as an M fifteen,

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Speaker 4: and Oho, the man was getting his tattooed and said,

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Speaker 4: I'm impervious to pain. Talk about somebody who was going

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Speaker 4: to always be himself but such a man of his word.

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Speaker 4: It was epic. And then he was like, I and

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Speaker 4: see how person would want more of these? And now

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Speaker 4: I just love the idea he is Jim Harbaugh with

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Speaker 4: the tattoo sleeve.

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Speaker 2: That video of him, because and it's does such a

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Speaker 2: good job of just like zooming in on his face

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Speaker 2: while he's just staring like blankly into the camera like

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Speaker 2: as the tattoo orters is literally like drawing on his skin,

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Speaker 2: and he's like and I think he even like raised

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Speaker 2: his eyebrows like gave this little grin like when he

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Speaker 2: looked at it. I just I really enjoy that, like

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Speaker 2: at a party somewhere. Jim Harbaugh is just gonna bust

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Speaker 2: at what.

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Speaker 3: I got for the rest of it.

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Speaker 5: But hey, we're going to join you for hour two.

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Speaker 2: the update. We're right at the start of the NBA playoffs,

886
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 2: but I want to take a little bit of a

887
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Speaker 2: look look see back on what's on what's happened this season.

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00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,720
Speaker 2: More specifically, I want to talk a little bit about

889
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Speaker 2: NBA MVP because I think the field for contenders is

890
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 2: a pretty good one, and it's it's a really balanced

891
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 2: and even one to.

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00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 5: I still at the end of the day, I think

893
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 5: Nikola Jokic is probably the guy.

894
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would agree with that.

895
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 2: But at the same time, you have Yanni's attemp to Kempo,

896
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 2: you have Jason Tatum, Luca Danciach and the Edwards, Shay Gildess, Alexander.

897
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 2: I mean, especially with the relatively surprised success of the

898
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 2: Oklahoma City Thunder. I mean not that they were successful,

899
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,919
Speaker 2: but that they pushed for the one seed and they

900
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 2: were really good down the stretch, and Shay Shay had

901
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 2: so much to do with that.

902
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 5: I just it's so close for me.

903
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 2: But when you look at Nikola or Nikola Jokic and

904
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 2: you look at what he means to the Denver Nuggets,

905
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 2: who are so dominant, you know they're coming right back

906
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 2: into the NBA playoffs, seemingly not taking a step back

907
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 2: in their title defense, and Yokic is leading the way.

908
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 2: He missed out on the MVP last year. Controversially, I

909
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 2: feel like Joel embiid gets the gets the award last year.

910
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 2: He was MVP twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two, finished

911
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 2: runner up to Joel embid last year. I mean, the

912
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 2: Nuggets are I found the stat from Yeah who Sports.

913
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 2: The Nuggets are a sixty nine win team when Nikola

914
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,439
Speaker 2: is on the floor. Yokic is on the floor, they're

915
00:42:56,440 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 2: a seventeen win team when he's not. It's that differential

916
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,760
Speaker 2: is twice that of anybody else that we just mentioned

917
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 2: or that I just mentioned.

918
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 5: And not only that, but Yokic has been available.

919
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 2: He has played more games than everybody else except for

920
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards on that list too, So like he is

921
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 2: omnipresent for the Denver Nuggets, who are one of the

922
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,959
Speaker 2: most dominant teams in the league.

923
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 5: I just I have to think that it goes Yokic's way.

924
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 4: Again, I think it does too, because when I look

925
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 4: at MVP, I say, what does he do for the team?

926
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 4: When you say the difference in wins when he's on

927
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 4: the court when he's not, it's kind of not to

928
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 4: be dramatic, but it's staggering. It's a tremendous difference. And

929
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 4: what does he do to the players around him? And

930
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 4: does he make the team better? And I think he

931
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 4: fits all of those categories, So I don't know how

932
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 4: he doesn't get it. Everybody else you mentioned is so

933
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 4: deserving and I am like a low key Lucastan, Like

934
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 4: I love Luka just kind of he's so relatable, he

935
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 4: really is.

936
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 5: I just like the way that he just wants to

937
00:43:59,120 --> 00:43:59,399
Speaker 5: go out.

938
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Speaker 2: And I mean Jokics too, though both of them are

939
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 2: just like I just want to play basketball.

940
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 5: I don't really care about anything else.

941
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Speaker 4: And I was in Dallas, but I spent a fair

942
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 4: amount of time in Dallas for a while, and I

943
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 4: was like, this is this is my favorite athlete. And

944
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:11,839
Speaker 4: I'm a Dak person too, but this was Luca kind

945
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 4: of overtook. Is my favorite Dallas athlete. Now it's Corey Seeger.

946
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 4: But I'm getting off topic. The point is I agree

947
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 4: with you. I think it is totally jokicet win and

948
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 4: also be so fun to parade. And I know that

949
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 4: doesn't go into it, but it should. Yes, but the

950
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,919
Speaker 4: difference he makes for the team, the difference he makes

951
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 4: for the league, and they are dominant, and part of

952
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 4: the reason they're dominant is because he's dominant and he

953
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 4: makes everyone around him more dominant. And I think that's

954
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 4: the thing when I look at like Michael Jordan, did

955
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 4: he make everyone around him better? Yes, he did, And

956
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 4: I think that's what we're looking at here and he

957
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 4: just he has a tremendous impact and those numbers are staggering.

958
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 4: I mean, that's that is a tremendous differential. So I

959
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 4: don't know how this year it doesn't go to him.

960
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 2: It's interesting too, because you have to like, Giannis is

961
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 2: probably the best all around player on this list because

962
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 2: of how good of a defender he is. But you

963
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 2: hit the nail on the head talking about what Yokic

964
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 2: means to the Nuggets, who are one of the teams

965
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,760
Speaker 2: to be in the NBA and have been for multiple

966
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 2: years now. And that's what I think is missing in

967
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 2: the Yannis debate is like what he does when he's

968
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 2: on the floor, for like, I just I don't think

969
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 2: that necessarily it's as big of an impact. And that

970
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,839
Speaker 2: is not to say that I like I love Yannis too,

971
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 2: especially like you talk about how great Yokic is parades

972
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 2: like Yannis in commercials is just is the.

973
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 5: Best things it into Seriously.

974
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 2: I mean, he's in an ad for like a website.

975
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 5: I don't like when you can build your own website.

976
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 2: I forget which one it is, honestly, because that's I

977
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 2: don't I literally just pay attention to be honest in it.

978
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 2: But I'm like, it's a fun commercial because Yannis is

979
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 2: in it and it's like a really not fun topic

980
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 2: or it's just a very bland thing and he just

981
00:45:55,480 --> 00:46:00,080
Speaker 2: makes it really fun. But again, I just I think

982
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 2: that jokicic just means means more. H I do want

983
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,919
Speaker 2: to talk a little bit more though about Shay. Yeah,

984
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 2: about kills Alexander.

985
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 5: Because he's such a fun one.

986
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 2: I don't he averaged thirty point one points this year

987
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 2: coming off of a season last year where he is

988
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 2: you know, it's the second All Star appearance this year.

989
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 2: Last year thirty one point four points per game. But

990
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 2: he's now shooting a career high fifty three point five percent,

991
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 2: and I just now it seems like we see like

992
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 2: he's like a budding superstar that even though he had

993
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,760
Speaker 2: all these awards last year, it seemingly came out of nowhere.

994
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 5: Especially like much like the Thunder, Much like the Thunder.

995
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 2: And I think that's it's it's fun to see fresh

996
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 2: faces and you see these guys being kind of we're

997
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 2: talking about the field of MVP play for the NBA

998
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,439
Speaker 2: right now, and it is different names. I mean, yeah,

999
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 2: Dancie's is still on there, you know, obviously Jokic and Yannis,

1000
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 2: but like you see some of these other guys kind

1001
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 2: of slipping in there, and I appreciate that. Out of

1002
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:05,280
Speaker 2: out of the NBA in general.

1003
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 4: Well, I think with Shay, which will be kind of

1004
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 4: fun to see, is where does he fall in the

1005
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 4: MVP voting because I don't know that he's going to

1006
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:11,839
Speaker 4: win it this year.

1007
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 5: I think it was a fifth last year too, So.

1008
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 4: I'll be interested to see where he falls this year

1009
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 4: because I think how he played down the stretch, how

1010
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 4: the Thunder played, how the Thunder played because of how

1011
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 4: he played, will make a difference. And so it'll be

1012
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 4: kind of interesting to see because he may be the

1013
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 4: MVP of the future. He maybe next year he could,

1014
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 4: he could sneak either this type. I just think it's

1015
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 4: it's probably not going to be him, but I'm curious

1016
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 4: to see kind of where he falls in his voting

1017
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 4: because I think it will give us a little bit

1018
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,800
Speaker 4: of an indication of where he's going to fall in

1019
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:39,240
Speaker 4: the future.

1020
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's like, that's kind of what I'm talking about here,

1021
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 2: where it's it's interesting to see he's you know, coming

1022
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 2: into his own and now we're going to This is

1023
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 2: like the butting of someone who is going.

1024
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 5: To be a household name.

1025
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 2: I feel like in the next couple of years, as

1026
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 2: as we continue these conversations for who means what to

1027
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 2: what team? Uh and these NBA superstars, and then you

1028
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 2: have a guy like Jason Tatum, who I think is going

1029
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 2: weirdly overlooked even though the Celtics are just kind of

1030
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 2: the perceived champions in the East.

1031
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 5: Like I no one we talked about it earlier.

1032
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 2: Everything is lining up for them to just kind of

1033
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 2: steamroll their way into the NBA Championship because of the

1034
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:21,760
Speaker 2: fact that you know, Jimmy Butler's out for the heat,

1035
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 2: and then because the fact that Giannis is dealing with

1036
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 2: injury right now, it just seems like that path is cleared.

1037
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 2: And Jason Tatum has been that dude in Boston and

1038
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 2: Boston is that team. So why is is that not

1039
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 2: more of a consideration. But I think that speaks more

1040
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 2: to how good Yokic really isn't.

1041
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 5: What he means.

1042
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 4: I also think it speaks in hereat watch what I'm

1043
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 4: about to do here for boy, I think I'm going

1044
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 4: to compare the Celtics to South Carolina who just won

1045
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 4: the women's tournament in which you have a very talented,

1046
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 4: very balanced team, So one person doesn't necessarily get the

1047
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 4: star power, yeah, as maybe some of these other teams do.

1048
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 4: And I think that's the situation with the Celtics and

1049
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:02,800
Speaker 4: Jason Tatum.

1050
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 3: So there's that. That's what I did there.

1051
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:05,399
Speaker 5: I like that.

1052
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 2: No, I like that because it so much of oh

1053
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 2: my god, we can just draw all these comparisons now

1054
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:15,240
Speaker 2: to women's basketball, because Jokich is Caitlyn Clark at this point,

1055
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 2: and but the Celtics are quietly dominating the entire conference,

1056
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 2: whereas like South Carolina, especially in what was supposed to

1057
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 2: be a down year for them, a rebuilding year, went out,

1058
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 2: had a completely undefeated season.

1059
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 5: Don Staley gets her third championship, but.

1060
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 2: Like, all of the storylines are still about Kaitlyn.

1061
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 4: But I think I think that that's kind of that's

1062
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 4: kind of the same situation that we're seeing here with

1063
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 4: Jason Tatum.

1064
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 2: And yeah, no, I agree with that, especially when you look, yeah,

1065
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 2: you just you look at how good the Celtics have been.

1066
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 5: I love that. I really really love that.

1067
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 2: We I'm these playoffs are going to be really interesting, though,

1068
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:59,439
Speaker 2: especially like in the West, the play inns were more

1069
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 2: of the like there were so much drama, so.

1070
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 4: Much drama, But I think the playans were created for drama.

1071
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:08,720
Speaker 4: There's no reason to have a plan, but it creates

1072
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 4: more drama and I think it helps the sport. But no,

1073
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 4: they there was drama, but they they were built for

1074
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 4: drama and they delivered.

1075
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 3: Good job, guys, I know.

1076
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 2: I that's that was the biggest thing where I wonder

1077
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:24,399
Speaker 2: if that can work elsewhere. I mean not necessarily even

1078
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 2: just like the NBA or like into the NFL and

1079
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 2: stuff like that, because the playoffs are already a one

1080
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 2: and done so that's dramatic enough. But I feel like

1081
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 2: for these series, you're starting to see more and more

1082
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 2: of this because.

1083
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 3: They had it in baseball for a while.

1084
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 4: For a while, there was the there was a one

1085
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 4: and done And I mean you had a couple of

1086
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 4: years ago the Dodgers and the Giants and the two

1087
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 4: best records in the league, and the Dodgers are in

1088
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Speaker 4: a one and done game against the Cardinals. They pulled

1089
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 4: it out and it was extremely exciting, but they had

1090
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 4: the second best record league by like one game, and

1091
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:52,919
Speaker 4: had they lost that game, that was it for them

1092
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,359
Speaker 4: that was dramatic, But then I think people felt maybe

1093
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 4: like it was too dramatic.

1094
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,919
Speaker 2: I know, I know, but there hasn't been again, there's

1095
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:04,320
Speaker 2: hasn't been as much drama when it comes to the

1096
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 2: East at least, and then the West. Now, I mean,

1097
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 2: there was that like who's going to get the It

1098
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 2: was there's three way tie at the end of the

1099
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 2: season going into who was going to be the first seed?

1100
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 2: And I mean, I I just I really appreciate that

1101
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 2: there was no sophomore slump for the Nuggets, even if

1102
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,280
Speaker 2: they ended up as the number two seed. But now

1103
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 2: they get the Lakers, and it's going to be more

1104
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 2: competitive than I think it was in the second round

1105
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 2: last year.

1106
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 5: But I just see.

1107
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 2: Nikola Jokic being that guy that's going to keep the

1108
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 2: team together as much as he can and really propel

1109
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 2: them forward into like the West, which is objectively more

1110
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 2: competitive than the East is. But I just I think

1111
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 2: that that has to mean that he is MVP this year.

1112
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 4: I would think so. I mean, he would get my

1113
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 4: vote if I were voting. I'm not, but he would

1114
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 4: get he would get my vote for the.

1115
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 2: Reasons, well, if we were voting, how like parade behavior would.

1116
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 4: Also Actually I take a of fire voting. I'd probably

1117
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,359
Speaker 4: vote Luca because I'd vote with my heart. And that's

1118
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 4: why I'm not voting. That's why no one's having to

1119
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 4: me vote for mbat well I.

1120
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:12,760
Speaker 5: Think they should.

1121
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 2: We are going to get to some NFL Draft conversation

1122
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 2: coming up next, because that is just mere days away. Finally,

1123
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 2: I feel like it's so slow and then all of

1124
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 2: a sudden, it's here when we come back. Did you

1125
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 2: do this because this is in my Twitter bio? Say again,

1126
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 2: did you just because it's in my Twitter bio? I

1127
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 2: have no clue what was in your Twitter bio? So

1128
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:39,359
Speaker 2: this is so funny, Chris, this is on my wall.

1129
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 2: This is my like permanent rotation. This is the first

1130
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:43,839
Speaker 2: thing in my Twitter bio says the x's and o's

1131
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,240
Speaker 2: they haunt me. But it's like x's and o's like football.

1132
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:47,839
Speaker 6: Yeah, Oh that's clever. I like that.

1133
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, we notice that. That's so clever.

1134
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 2: I love it when a plan comes together. We are

1135
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the Tirec dot Com studios at his

1136
00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Saturday. I'm Carmen Vitally and it Tracy Sandler,

1137
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 2: Alex Curry is off today.

1138
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:04,360
Speaker 5: We're having a great time.

1139
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 4: Shortly after the show, our podcast will be going up.

1140
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 4: If you missed any of today's show, be sure to

1141
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 4: check out the podcast. Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever

1142
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,319
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1143
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 4: and review again. Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you

1144
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,879
Speaker 4: get your podcasts, and you'll see this show posted right

1145
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 4: after we get off the air.

1146
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 2: Thanks to our wonderful producers, that will be be up.

1147
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:31,760
Speaker 2: That will be up, and it'll be on my social.

1148
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 5: I'm sure Tracy is going to put.

1149
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 2: It up on her social, Oh for sure. Okay, we're

1150
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:39,879
Speaker 2: you know, we're We're all about the social this. We're

1151
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 2: social Gurlees, We're social creamer.

1152
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:42,399
Speaker 3: We are.

1153
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 2: We are going to get to some more NFL talk

1154
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:47,800
Speaker 2: because finally we're.

1155
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 3: Draft gurlies too.

1156
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,959
Speaker 5: The NFL Draft is here too. I cannot wait.

1157
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 2: It's they're so the the mock draft cycle has just

1158
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 2: taken on a life of its own. Feel like every

1159
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 2: year it just gets more and more robust, I guess,

1160
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,720
Speaker 2: but like saturated too. I always tell the story I

1161
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 2: tried to tell my mom, or explained to my mom

1162
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:13,319
Speaker 2: what a mock draft was. She's not into sports. She's

1163
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:16,919
Speaker 2: not really into football, and she was like, so you

1164
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 2: just guess basically yeah, and people read that yeah and.

1165
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 4: Argue about it and get really mad at it, right,

1166
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 4: really mad, right, And she was like, huh okay, And.

1167
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, you know what, when you kind

1168
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 2: of take a step back and you look at this,

1169
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 2: it's but I am so glad that we are now

1170
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 2: finally we're almost past the prognostication and we are getting

1171
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:43,839
Speaker 2: to what's actually going to happen. In order to determine though,

1172
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 2: what is going to actually happen, there is this is

1173
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 2: this draft is gonna be a weird one, man. I

1174
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 2: just I feel it, and I it's going to have

1175
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 2: everything to do with the quarterbacks. And it's not only

1176
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 2: how many quarterbacks I think go in the top ten

1177
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 2: or even the top five, but when they go and

1178
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 2: who goes is going to determine so many things for

1179
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 2: different teams.

1180
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 5: I cover the NFC North for Fox Sports.

1181
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 2: That's my day job, and the Vikings are probably one

1182
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 2: of the most interesting teams in this draft because they

1183
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 2: don't have control right over They don't have control over

1184
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 2: their draft, their draft class. Despite the fact they have

1185
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 2: two first round picks. They're one of three teams that

1186
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 2: has two first round picks. They're the only team of

1187
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:34,399
Speaker 2: those three that needs a quarterback. And even so, Kevin

1188
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 2: O'Connell was giving this like talk at a I believe

1189
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 2: it was.

1190
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:42,280
Speaker 5: Like a parish in Minnesota.

1191
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 3: I forget all football teams, all.

1192
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 2: Great football coaches, but it was a huge congregation, right,

1193
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 2: And he was asked about the difference, like the very

1194
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 2: specific differences between J. J. McCarthy and Drake may as

1195
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 2: quarterback prospects and what they can do in YadA YadA, YadA,

1196
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 2: and like what their strategy. And Kevin O'Connell was like, well,

1197
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 2: you know, we also need some teams to be complicit

1198
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 2: with the Minnesota Ikings getting a quarterback.

1199
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 5: Actually, we just need one of.

1200
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 2: Those teams to be complicit in getting a quarterback. And

1201
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 2: he's like, I may or may not have sent a

1202
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 2: bouquet of flowers to Robert Kraft because so much hinges

1203
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 2: on that third spot with the Patriots. Are they self

1204
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 2: aware enough to trade down and get a haul and

1205
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 2: kind of accelerate their rebuild or are they going to

1206
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 2: take advantage of being in the third overall spot with

1207
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 2: a good quarterback class.

1208
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 5: I see both sides.

1209
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:33,839
Speaker 2: I'm team Hall, but then trading up into the third

1210
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:35,879
Speaker 2: spot is also only worth it if your guy is there,

1211
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 2: and who is Washington gonna take. They went so far

1212
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 2: as to bring in all of these guys at once, which.

1213
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 4: Is something Adam Peters took from the forty nine ers. Yes,

1214
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 4: so I just want to say that it became a

1215
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 4: big deal because it was quarterbacks, because it's Adam Peters

1216
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 4: first year as the GM of the Commanders. But that

1217
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 4: is something the forty nine ers have done, is they

1218
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 4: bring prospects in to see how they interact with each other.

1219
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 2: I think it's so interesting though, doing that with quarterbacks

1220
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:06,360
Speaker 2: who are so used to you know, they're the ones

1221
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 2: in charge there, they're like And rumors are coming out

1222
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 2: now that Jaden Daniels was not pleased with that process

1223
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 2: or his agents were, even though his agents came and said, no,

1224
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 2: this fake news.

1225
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 5: We don't care, YadA, YadA, YadA.

1226
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 2: But I have to think where there's smoke, there's fire,

1227
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 2: because there's been more smoke now about Jadeen Daniels wanting

1228
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 2: to go to specific places, and one of those places is.

1229
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 5: The Minnesota Vikings.

1230
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 2: And so now you're kind of shifting where everybody thought

1231
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 2: it was Drake May, and then I was like, Okay, well,

1232
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 2: if they can't get Drake May, they can get J. J.

1233
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 5: McCarthy, who I think would be great in Minnesota.

1234
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 4: Quite honestly, that is I think. I don't know anybody

1235
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 4: who follows me knows that's what I want for JJ.

1236
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 4: I want JJ to go to the Minnesota Vikings.

1237
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 2: You've got a ton of talent on the offensive side

1238
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 2: of the ball. You have Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison, t J. Hockinson.

1239
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 2: You have a good offensive line, although some of the

1240
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:00,919
Speaker 2: interior guys are you know, you can get a little

1241
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 2: better in there. You have a defense that can win

1242
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 2: you games. And you have a bridge starter in Sam

1243
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 2: Darnold that you do not have to be the guy

1244
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 2: right and Kevin McConnell and Josh McCown.

1245
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, you've got a quarterbacks and I think and I

1246
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 4: love JJ McCarthy, I am. I think it's been made

1247
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 4: clear what a michiganmpanion and I absolutely absolutely love JJ McCarthy,

1248
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 4: but I think it would be who JJ McCarthy to

1249
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 4: go into a situation where he didn't have to come

1250
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 4: in day one and save the franchise. He can come

1251
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 4: in probably mid season, I think, depending how things are going,

1252
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 4: even if it was a full season, I think that

1253
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 4: would be the best thing for him. I actually think

1254
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 4: that's one of the best things for all Ricky quarterbacks.

1255
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 5: Like CJ.

1256
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 4: Stroud is an anomaly, but he also came into a

1257
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 4: decent situation.

1258
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 3: But I think it's a great thing for all Ricky quarterbacks.

1259
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 4: I think for him to have to go to the commanders,

1260
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 4: for anyone to go to the commanders and be like, well,

1261
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 4: good luck, save the franchise is a lot.

1262
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 3: But this smoke coming out, I don't know.

1263
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 4: I've never really thought JJ was going to the commanders,

1264
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 4: though I still think it's going to be Jaden Daniels.

1265
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 3: But I don't know everything it orge or way.

1266
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 4: But then I still think you end up with potentially

1267
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 4: getting JJ to Minnesota. I don't know, it's going to

1268
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 4: be very interesting, but it is the amount of quarterbacks

1269
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 4: where they go, what do you decide to do? It'll

1270
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 4: be interesting. And I do think that what the commanders

1271
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 4: did perhaps did throw a wrinkle into the process. I mean,

1272
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 4: the commanders may have had an idea, maybe it really

1273
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 4: did throw a wrinkle in the process. Maybe that really

1274
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 4: was their way of deciding who they want because it

1275
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 4: says a lot. And if you are a guy who

1276
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 4: thinks they're the guy and can come in and still

1277
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 4: interact well with your competition, so to speak, it says

1278
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 4: a lot about you and what you can do in

1279
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 4: an organization.

1280
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think there's a competition factor to that,

1281
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 2: and I really think that you can learn a lot

1282
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 2: about a guy's character and personality from that. But at

1283
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 2: the same time, like I want my quarterback to be cocky.

1284
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 2: I want my quarterback to come in and be like,

1285
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 2: why is everybody else here?

1286
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 5: I'm the dude. That's one of those.

1287
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 2: Positions where like you need like too much confidence doesn't

1288
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 2: exactly exist, especially if you can obviously, if you can

1289
00:59:58,880 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 2: back it up.

1290
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 3: If you can back it up, if you can.

1291
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 5: Back it up, that's the big part here.

1292
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 2: But it will be very interesting to see, all right,

1293
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 2: say Drake may does go well, then do you really

1294
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 2: push to get to that third spot with the Patriots

1295
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 2: if you're the Vikings And if you do, does that

1296
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 2: mean you're going up to get Jane Daniels or does

1297
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 2: that mean can you afford to wait until maybe Arizona's

1298
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 2: pick if your guy is j J. McCarthy and you

1299
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 2: can let the command or the Patriots get Jade Daniels.

1300
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 2: Everything has been so convoluted and now it's lying season two,

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Speaker 2: so like, I don't know that I buy a ton

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Speaker 2: of stock in Jane Daniels to the Vikings necessarily. But

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Speaker 2: something Kevin O'Connell said in that if you go back

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Speaker 2: and watch the video I tweeted it out about this

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Speaker 2: talk with this congregation.

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Speaker 5: Something he said in that, like the clip was I

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Speaker 5: have had to He essentially alluded to having to veto

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Speaker 5: a couple of quarterback ideas or like he's been is

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Speaker 5: like the quarterback killer because he's finding certain flaws, or

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Speaker 5: he is not exactly on the same page with some

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Speaker 5: of these guys that even his staff has been. That's

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Speaker 5: kind of what it alluded to.

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Speaker 2: And I was like, Okay, well, if there hasn't been

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Speaker 2: a lot of smoke with the Vikings and Jade and Daniels,

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Speaker 2: was this Kevin O'Connell's way of kind of saying, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm not really in on Drake May, I'm not really

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Speaker 2: in on JJ McCarthy. I'm actually in on Jayden and

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Speaker 2: Daniels and like they went to Baton Rouge. They met

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Speaker 2: with Jadeen Daniels at LSU and like, hold all the

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Speaker 2: brasted So I'm like, oh, or is that them trying

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Speaker 2: to throw McCarthy. Yes, and then like met with Drake

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Speaker 2: May like they did all that too, but this late

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Speaker 2: in the game and for Kevin O'Connell to say, I

1324
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Speaker 2: had to kind of fight off some quarterback ideas in

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Speaker 2: favor of what I want to do. And then the

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Speaker 2: last thing that they just did was go down to

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Speaker 2: Baton Rouge. That kind of I don't know. I don't

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Speaker 2: know how much to read into this. It's such it's

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Speaker 2: going come Thursday. It's just going to be an insane draft.

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Speaker 5: It really is.

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Speaker 2: And I we didn't even talk about how this could

1332
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Speaker 2: matriculate into different positions because we could not see a

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Speaker 2: defensive player go in the top ten, in the top

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Speaker 2: fifteen even we may not.

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Speaker 3: We may not.

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Speaker 4: But going back to your question about then do you

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Speaker 4: put it all in to get to number three? The

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Speaker 4: reality is if you have your guy and it's the

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Speaker 4: guy you want.

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Speaker 3: And he's there at three, you do it. But you

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Speaker 3: do not. And this is something I think the four

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Speaker 3: Nighters could tell you they learned you do not trade

1343
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Speaker 3: up to.

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Speaker 4: Three and not know the guy that you want and

1345
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:35,919
Speaker 4: then pick so and then or then design a couple

1346
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Speaker 4: of days before. But I think that's really important. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: I think with the draft, especially with the team like

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Speaker 4: the Vikings for all the reasons that you mentioned, good

1349
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Speaker 4: offensive line, justin Jefferson, Kevin O'Connell, Josh kan all the things,

1350
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Speaker 4: good defense. They're in a win not win now but

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01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 4: kind of they're in a win now place. So they

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01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 4: don't need to be too cute. So if they have

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Speaker 4: their guy and they're like, he's there at three and

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Speaker 4: the Patriots are willing to deal and we want him

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Speaker 4: whoever him is.

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Speaker 5: But it depends on the Patriots.

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Speaker 3: That it depends on the Patriots.

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Speaker 4: Depends that it takes that that's the thing, and then

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Speaker 4: if the Patriots takes someone else. But I don't think

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Speaker 4: if your guys, if your guys not there at four,

1361
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 4: don't trade up everything at four just to get a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: That's that's my feeling on that.

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Speaker 2: That is we are going to talk a little bit

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Speaker 2: more about the offensive players that could go, and especially

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Speaker 2: the offensive line. Yes, because right after we go to

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Speaker 2: Kevin for an update.

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Speaker 5: Break.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, they're in the middle of the third quarter up

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Speaker 8: in Minneapolis with the Timberwolves leading the Phoenix Sun seventy

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Speaker 8: six two sixty eight.

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Speaker 6: Kevin Durant doing all they can to keep Phoenix in

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Speaker 6: this game.

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Speaker 8: Is He's got twenty eight points along with three rebounds

1374
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 8: as well as the steal and the block. But it

1375
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 8: is Phoenix down by eight as Carl Anthony Towns leading

1376
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:56,160
Speaker 8: the score sheet form Minnesota nineteen points.

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Speaker 6: He's off five to nine.

1378
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Speaker 8: Shooting, also a perfect eight of eight from the free

1379
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Speaker 8: throw line, six rebounds, four assists, as well as the

1380
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Speaker 8: steel Carl Anthony Towns an outstanding games so far for Minnesota.

1381
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Speaker 8: Rudy Gobert on the verge of a double double. He's

1382
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Speaker 8: got nine points and eleven rebounds as they're approaching in

1383
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Speaker 8: the five minute mark up there in the Twin Cities.

1384
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Speaker 8: Earlier today, the Cavaliers smothering the Orlando Magic ninety seven

1385
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Speaker 8: eighty three, holding Orlando to thirty two percent shooting, and

1386
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Speaker 8: they also held them to just eight to thirty seven

1387
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Speaker 8: from beyond the three point arc.

1388
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Speaker 6: Donovan Mitchell led the way for Cleveland with.

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Speaker 8: Thirty points, also had himself three assists, three steals, and

1390
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Speaker 8: Evan Mobley had the double doubles sixteen points, eleven rebounds

1391
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Speaker 8: to go along with a couple of assists and three blocks.

1392
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Speaker 8: Coming up later today in the NBA, about thirty minutes

1393
01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:47,640
Speaker 8: or so from now, will be at Madison Square Garden

1394
01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:50,760
Speaker 8: seventy six Ers and Knicks, first game of that best

1395
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Speaker 8: of seven series. Lakers and Nuggets will get going at

1396
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Speaker 8: eight thirty in Game one of that series. Now, the

1397
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Speaker 8: Lakers have not beaten Denver in four hundred and ninety days,

1398
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 8: so they're hoping to reverse to that trend that includes

1399
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Speaker 8: that sweep in the Western Conference Finals last year. As

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Speaker 8: Lakers are trying to at least reverse that trend get

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01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:16,440
Speaker 8: themselves on the victory board here in that series. In

1402
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:19,200
Speaker 8: Major League Baseball, we have had a few games go

1403
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 8: final already. Marlins hold off the Cubs, they come from

1404
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:25,480
Speaker 8: behind the beach Chicago three to two at Wrigley Field.

1405
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Speaker 8: Brewers will a blow out win against the Cardinals twelve

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Speaker 8: to five at Busch Stadium. Twins over the Tigers four

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Speaker 8: to three, and in extra innings. That's what it took

1408
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Speaker 8: to get some scoring in this ballgame. With the Rays

1409
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:39,920
Speaker 8: outlast the Yankees in an outstanding Pitchers duel between Nestro

1410
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 8: Cortes and Zach epflin Quartes nine strikeouts and seven innings,

1411
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 8: Eppelin six strikeouts and in six innings. Other scores going

1412
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 8: on right now Major League Baseball. The Dodgers and Mets.

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Speaker 8: New York has taken a two to one lead over

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01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:55,920
Speaker 8: Los Angeles. There right now up to bat are the

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01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:58,960
Speaker 8: Dodgers in the bottom of the fourth inning out in

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01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:01,960
Speaker 8: Los Angeles, now over the Astros two to one. They're

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01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:04,280
Speaker 8: in the top of the seventh inning in Washington, Red

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01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:05,880
Speaker 8: sux Ley and the Pirates two to one. They're in

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01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:08,400
Speaker 8: the top of the six and the Diamondbacks and Giants

1420
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:10,720
Speaker 8: all knotted up at three. They're in the bottom of

1421
01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:13,440
Speaker 8: the fifth inning up in San Francisco.

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Speaker 6: Back to you, ladies.

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Speaker 5: That was Kevin Wyer, Thank you so much.

1424
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Speaker 2: We were talking about the NFL drafts, some offensive linemen.

1425
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:26,240
Speaker 2: It's a great tackle class. And to talk more about that,

1426
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 2: we have a former Notre Dame offensive lineman, somebody that's

1427
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 2: got the gift of gab, the host of the Gojo

1428
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 2: and Golic podcast, Mike Golick Junior.

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Speaker 5: How are you friend?

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Speaker 9: I'm doing well. Appreciate you guys having me excited to

1431
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 9: talk about some of this Grade eight top choice beef

1432
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:42,320
Speaker 9: we got coming out.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, hell yeah, dude.

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Speaker 2: We were talking mostly about the quarterbacks last segment, just

1435
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:50,720
Speaker 2: given the fact that how many are going to go

1436
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 2: in the top ten top five, and how much depends

1437
01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:56,840
Speaker 2: on not only how many go, but who goes and

1438
01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:57,480
Speaker 2: when they go.

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Speaker 5: But then when you look at the rest of the.

1440
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Speaker 2: Top ten, you see offensive need after offensive need after

1441
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:08,600
Speaker 2: offensive need. We could potentially not see an offense or

1442
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 2: defensive player go in the top ten top fifteen, and

1443
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:15,360
Speaker 2: that is a testament to a the wide receiver class.

1444
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 2: But be this tackle class man, I gotta I want

1445
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:20,440
Speaker 2: to break this down for the big guys.

1446
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:23,520
Speaker 6: Who is your who is your?

1447
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:29,200
Speaker 2: Who gets like the usdah choice stamp on h on

1448
01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:32,440
Speaker 2: the Michael Junior Big board of offensive tackle beef.

1449
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:35,880
Speaker 9: I know he's gonna say, yeah, exactly, listen like I

1450
01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:39,320
Speaker 9: have to. Obviously, as you guys mentioned, admit my biases

1451
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:42,520
Speaker 9: up front. Yes, I am a former ore game offensive lineman.

1452
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:44,920
Speaker 9: My claim to fame as being a year older than

1453
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:47,280
Speaker 9: Zach Martin and thus I can claim to have taught

1454
01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:50,600
Speaker 9: him everything he knows. You learn more about what not

1455
01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:53,040
Speaker 9: to do by watching me than what to story for

1456
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:55,520
Speaker 9: another day.

1457
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Speaker 7: Though.

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Speaker 9: All that is to say, like I do think Joe

1459
01:07:57,920 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 9: Walt would be the first tackle off my board even

1460
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Speaker 9: if that weren't the case, And I went in trying

1461
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 9: to really go with the fine tooth comb over this situation,

1462
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:08,080
Speaker 9: because there's so much to like about this tackle class,

1463
01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 9: Like you said, carm but I think at the end

1464
01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:12,520
Speaker 9: of the day, with Joe, it's twofold is one in

1465
01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:14,480
Speaker 9: this day and age in the NFL, I really do

1466
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:17,080
Speaker 9: think you need to rely on pedigree guys that come

1467
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:19,439
Speaker 9: in technically more ready when you're picking this high in

1468
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 9: the first round, because the premium on someone you can

1469
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:24,240
Speaker 9: plug in right away and have be effective in a

1470
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Speaker 9: day and age where you just don't have as much

1471
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Speaker 9: time on the field with these guys because of the

1472
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:31,360
Speaker 9: collective bargaining agreement. I think he checks that box well,

1473
01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:33,960
Speaker 9: also having a ton of upside. We've heard plenty about how, hey,

1474
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:35,559
Speaker 9: this is a guy that made the switch from tight

1475
01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 9: end to tackle when he made the move from high

1476
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:39,200
Speaker 9: school to college. He's a guy that's twenty one going

1477
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Speaker 9: on twenty two, so he's got a lot of time

1478
01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 9: to work with all these physical gifts, and so I

1479
01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:47,400
Speaker 9: think he provides the best mix of immediate ability to

1480
01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:50,120
Speaker 9: step onto a field and be effective, not be overwhelmed

1481
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:51,599
Speaker 9: by what you're going to see. In the NFL, they

1482
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:53,479
Speaker 9: were scheme multiple at Notre Dame, so we've got a

1483
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 9: lot of looks at that. While also saying, hey, spending

1484
01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:58,040
Speaker 9: a high pick on this, we've also got upside that

1485
01:08:58,040 --> 01:08:58,840
Speaker 9: we can look forward to.

1486
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:02,080
Speaker 4: Just because your bias doesn't mean you're wrong. I think

1487
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:04,479
Speaker 4: he is far and away the best tackle in the draft,

1488
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:07,679
Speaker 4: and they're certainly fantastic guys close behind him, but he's

1489
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:10,679
Speaker 4: he has been excellent. But let's talk about this wide

1490
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:13,599
Speaker 4: receiver class. This is one heck of a class. And

1491
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:16,400
Speaker 4: as we talked about the wide receivers, the quarterbacks have

1492
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:17,720
Speaker 4: a lot to do with the fact we may not see

1493
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:19,839
Speaker 4: a defensive player go in the top ten, top.

1494
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:21,839
Speaker 3: Fifteen your team.

1495
01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 4: The thing with these wide receivers are so different Romaana Dunze,

1496
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:28,439
Speaker 4: Marvin Harrison, Junior, Malik Neighbors. They're so different and they

1497
01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:30,639
Speaker 4: bring so many different things. But which one of them?

1498
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:32,840
Speaker 4: For all the reasons you just talked about Joe alt

1499
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 4: being ready. Which one of them do you think is

1500
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Speaker 4: ready day one to be a game changer?

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01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 9: So I actually think there's two right away that can

1502
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:41,960
Speaker 9: come in no matter where they end up, and be

1503
01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:44,599
Speaker 9: in great position to succeed. And that would be Marvin

1504
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 9: Harrison Junior, who'd be my first pick. He's everything that

1505
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:49,200
Speaker 9: we have talked about him being for the last two years.

1506
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:51,880
Speaker 9: I think this draft cycle, we honestly just got bored

1507
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:53,240
Speaker 9: and you have to play with some of the other

1508
01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:55,479
Speaker 9: choice on the table. And I think it's happening in

1509
01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:57,519
Speaker 9: a lot of positions as we had towards the draft,

1510
01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:00,920
Speaker 9: by the way, like so you look at two, Olufushano

1511
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:02,320
Speaker 9: from Penn State's gonna be in the mix, and in

1512
01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 9: that I think a lot more than people would have thought. Yeah,

1513
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:06,120
Speaker 9: guy who probably would have been a top five pick

1514
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:07,559
Speaker 9: last year if he had come out in a less

1515
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:10,040
Speaker 9: crowded class, Rock Bowers the same way, and I think

1516
01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 9: for Marvin Harrison Junior, it's gonna be the same story

1517
01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:15,559
Speaker 9: where hey, we're done overthinking this and you're gonna go

1518
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:17,240
Speaker 9: back to who can you trust the most to come

1519
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:19,600
Speaker 9: out there and be pro ready? And there is so

1520
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:22,639
Speaker 9: much Polish already on this guy's game. I would trust

1521
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:25,120
Speaker 9: him in a heartbeat. But then roma dundas not far

1522
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:28,840
Speaker 9: behind what they asked him to do in that Washington offense. Yeah,

1523
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:30,559
Speaker 9: maybe a little less over the middle of the field,

1524
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:34,240
Speaker 9: but the contested catches, the catch radius on him, him,

1525
01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:36,600
Speaker 9: especially in the end zone. The body control that he

1526
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 9: has at his size, it's like a basketball player. It's incredible,

1527
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:42,200
Speaker 9: And so I think you can come in and trust

1528
01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:44,840
Speaker 9: him right away to elevate your team in those fifty

1529
01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:47,080
Speaker 9: to fifty ball areas and be a real difference maker

1530
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:49,599
Speaker 9: up front. Well, think Nighbor's a great player. His speed

1531
01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:52,679
Speaker 9: is tantalizing. He's as explosive as any receiver in this class.

1532
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:55,679
Speaker 9: But there might be some limitations either you know, size,

1533
01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 9: the slot, something like that, or just in general the

1534
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:01,080
Speaker 9: kind of scheme that you're gonna need because we haven't

1535
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:02,880
Speaker 9: seen him have to get off press coverage as much

1536
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:05,320
Speaker 9: as those other guys have to work in complex situations.

1537
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 9: Because they just had so much speed on that deep

1538
01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:10,639
Speaker 9: on that offense at LSU, and certainly a great quarterback

1539
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:12,519
Speaker 9: in Jade and Daniels. That took a lot of tension away.

1540
01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:15,680
Speaker 4: I something you just said, and maybe I'm just a

1541
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 4: prisoner of the moment, Carmen.

1542
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:18,519
Speaker 3: I'm interested in your thoughts on this too.

1543
01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:21,519
Speaker 4: Does it feel like in this draft more than any other,

1544
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:23,800
Speaker 4: we are overthinking and we are just born, and it's like, well,

1545
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:25,800
Speaker 4: we're just not there yet, so let's keep just rehashing

1546
01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:27,800
Speaker 4: and relooking at things more than we normally do.

1547
01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:30,040
Speaker 9: I think so, And I mean I think this happens

1548
01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:31,600
Speaker 9: a lot when we've got prospects that we have a

1549
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:34,840
Speaker 9: lot of tape on. Yeah, Like the draft is I

1550
01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 9: think most fun conversationally when you've got guys that are

1551
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 9: incredibly talented but without a ton of reps under their belt,

1552
01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:43,800
Speaker 9: and for everybody else, like the prime example to me

1553
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:46,519
Speaker 9: is always and certainly I want to separate what's happened

1554
01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:48,960
Speaker 9: for him off the field since this and what we

1555
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:51,640
Speaker 9: were doing and exercising and trying to grade the prospect

1556
01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:54,040
Speaker 9: is DeShawn Watson coming out in the same year as

1557
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:57,599
Speaker 9: Mitch Trubisky. Where we had seen Deshaun Watson perform at

1558
01:11:57,640 --> 01:12:00,200
Speaker 9: a high level consistently during his time at Clemson, been

1559
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 9: over a number of years, and Mitch had all this

1560
01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:04,479
Speaker 9: great talent that we saw on basically a slash and

1561
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:07,360
Speaker 9: a season, and we got so much more hung up

1562
01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:10,960
Speaker 9: on that the traits, not necessarily the tape, and I

1563
01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:12,760
Speaker 9: think kind of learned a lesson there, and so I

1564
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:14,280
Speaker 9: think that applies to a lot of these guys in

1565
01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:16,400
Speaker 9: this draft class where brock Bauer has been a name

1566
01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:19,000
Speaker 9: for three years now, Marvin Harrison Junior, since he step

1567
01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:21,200
Speaker 9: foot on Ohio States campus has been considered the best

1568
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:23,679
Speaker 9: receiver to come through there on and on down the list.

1569
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 9: I think we've done that at nauseam this year.

1570
01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 2: And I think it's interesting too to consider the COVID

1571
01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:29,240
Speaker 2: factor to all of this, where some of these guys

1572
01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:31,640
Speaker 2: are older and they've had more of a chance in

1573
01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:35,080
Speaker 2: college and we've seen a lot more from them, where

1574
01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:38,080
Speaker 2: I think you're talking a lot more about player floors

1575
01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:41,880
Speaker 2: this draft than you are about player ceilings, because there's

1576
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 2: just not as much, not as many guys that have

1577
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:46,800
Speaker 2: a question mark, like you were just talking about Mike, But.

1578
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 9: Go ahead, I think you've seen that well and I

1579
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:51,880
Speaker 9: think you saw like this might also be a little

1580
01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:54,519
Speaker 9: bit of the brock Purty effect, where hey, oh, especially

1581
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:57,040
Speaker 9: at the most important position, the importance of a guy

1582
01:12:57,040 --> 01:12:59,640
Speaker 9: with a high floor coming into these offenses that are

1583
01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:01,760
Speaker 9: a little already made for the quarterback, a team that

1584
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:04,519
Speaker 9: might have more in place around that position and doesn't

1585
01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:06,559
Speaker 9: need to them to come in and save the world.

1586
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:08,840
Speaker 9: And then you look around everywhere else and say, huh,

1587
01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:11,240
Speaker 9: maybe we can apply that to more places. So I

1588
01:13:11,240 --> 01:13:13,639
Speaker 9: think that combined which is also like an incredible amount

1589
01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:16,879
Speaker 9: of talent in this group, makes it really really interesting

1590
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 9: and a lot different. The COVID factor, also, Carmen, I

1591
01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:22,439
Speaker 9: think applies to the evaluation process where we've seen a

1592
01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:24,960
Speaker 9: number of these high profile guys decide we don't want

1593
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:26,600
Speaker 9: to play the game anymore. We don't want to do

1594
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:28,160
Speaker 9: your stuff at the combine, we don't need to do

1595
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:31,120
Speaker 9: stuff at the pro day because they saw pine'sool, because

1596
01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:34,040
Speaker 9: they saw Jamar Chase. Guys that sat out entire seasons

1597
01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:35,960
Speaker 9: didn't have to go through that process, and the scouting

1598
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:38,320
Speaker 9: world had to evolve a bit out of need during COVID,

1599
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:40,519
Speaker 9: And now I think a lot of high end process

1600
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:42,320
Speaker 9: are saying, why do I need to do this if

1601
01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:44,320
Speaker 9: we all know you're still going to end up picking

1602
01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 9: me that.

1603
01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:48,559
Speaker 2: And I think the NIL and all of the transfer portal,

1604
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:50,599
Speaker 2: all these guys are businessmen too, and they realize if

1605
01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:52,599
Speaker 2: time is money and their time is worth some things,

1606
01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:55,120
Speaker 2: so they're not going to spend any doing.

1607
01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:57,439
Speaker 5: Anything they don't want to or need to do.

1608
01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:01,040
Speaker 2: But going back to talk about this tackle class and

1609
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 2: how good it is, and then the reverse of this.

1610
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:06,400
Speaker 2: Every every reaction has a every action has an equal

1611
01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:10,000
Speaker 2: opposite reaction, right whatever law that is the defensive side

1612
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:10,479
Speaker 2: of the ball.

1613
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:13,679
Speaker 5: It's not as a defensive rich of a draft.

1614
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:19,320
Speaker 2: But I think we're undervaluing a lot of these dtackles,

1615
01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:21,880
Speaker 2: especially given today's NFL, where you have to be able

1616
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:26,120
Speaker 2: to push the pocket. Who is your beef on the

1617
01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:28,559
Speaker 2: other side of the line that we should be looking

1618
01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:30,599
Speaker 2: out for that could maybe sneak go a little higher,

1619
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:32,799
Speaker 2: sneak a little bit further up the draft boards.

1620
01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:34,040
Speaker 5: Then we're talking about.

1621
01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:36,720
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think Byron Murphy has been one of the

1622
01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:39,000
Speaker 9: winners of the off season, the dtackle lot of Texas.

1623
01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:43,120
Speaker 9: You know, it's interesting that it took I think him

1624
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:45,920
Speaker 9: going to the combine and seeing him run drills next

1625
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:47,920
Speaker 9: to all these other guys, seeing not only how we looked,

1626
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 9: but how we moved to comparison one after the other.

1627
01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:52,960
Speaker 9: It's why I said the combine still has utility for

1628
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:56,560
Speaker 9: some guys, because I do think that, combined with incredible

1629
01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:58,920
Speaker 9: tape and a reputation that honestly probably should have had

1630
01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:01,559
Speaker 9: him closer in this conver station before. Because you talk

1631
01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:03,120
Speaker 9: to any of the coaches at Texas and as soon

1632
01:15:03,160 --> 01:15:05,800
Speaker 9: as he stepped on campus, they said, hey, ninety and

1633
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:07,680
Speaker 9: bird Orange is different. I'm just telling you, like I

1634
01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:09,320
Speaker 9: remember calling their games and he was a freshmen, and

1635
01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:11,960
Speaker 9: they're like, this dude is just different. And you see

1636
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:14,879
Speaker 9: his ability to beat double teams, his low center of gravity,

1637
01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:16,680
Speaker 9: the power that he plays with, how even as a

1638
01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:20,200
Speaker 9: guy who's a little bit undersized by modern defensive tackle standards,

1639
01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:23,720
Speaker 9: still takes on double teams effectively causes havoc in the backfield.

1640
01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:26,080
Speaker 9: I think he is exactly what you talked about in

1641
01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:28,360
Speaker 9: a day and age where we're going to see and

1642
01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:29,280
Speaker 9: we have seen already.

1643
01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:29,400
Speaker 1: Right.

1644
01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:32,679
Speaker 9: The market reflects this and the veterans more value placed

1645
01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:34,479
Speaker 9: on d tackle in a world where there's still a

1646
01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:36,960
Speaker 9: lot of teams that want to go with lighter box looks,

1647
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:38,800
Speaker 9: that want to spread it out offensively, and so you

1648
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:41,600
Speaker 9: need guys that have free down utility. Not only his

1649
01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:43,960
Speaker 9: run suffers out of these spread formations, but guys that

1650
01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:45,479
Speaker 9: can stay on the field and third down and get

1651
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:45,880
Speaker 9: after it.

1652
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:47,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, I love that.

1653
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:49,360
Speaker 2: Well, Mike, I could talk to you about the draft

1654
01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:52,160
Speaker 2: all day and back too, very often over over here.

1655
01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:56,840
Speaker 2: But thank you so much for joining us today, and

1656
01:15:56,920 --> 01:15:57,840
Speaker 2: we'll talk to you soon.

1657
01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:01,719
Speaker 5: Guys will be right back. And now we got edm going.

1658
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:07,280
Speaker 2: Excellent job all afternoon, Chris, Thank you so much. Carving

1659
01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:10,080
Speaker 2: vitally here Fox Sports Saturday, coming to you live from

1660
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:14,599
Speaker 2: tirec dot com Studios, joined by Tracy Sandler for these

1661
01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:19,479
Speaker 2: last couple hours. Alex Curry was out today. We got

1662
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:23,559
Speaker 2: our feel good story of the week to talk about

1663
01:16:24,240 --> 01:16:27,360
Speaker 2: and going back, so we talked to Annie Hospital from

1664
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:30,120
Speaker 2: the Chicago Sun Times, who covers the Chicago Sky and

1665
01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:33,720
Speaker 2: has covered the WNBA and Chicago Sky for years now.

1666
01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:36,679
Speaker 2: And finally the coverage and everything is starting to match

1667
01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:40,320
Speaker 2: the product. Things outside of the game are kind of

1668
01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:41,439
Speaker 2: starting to measure up.

1669
01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:43,600
Speaker 5: And that is not more true.

1670
01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:48,960
Speaker 2: Than Caitlin Clark, who is reportedly in the works to

1671
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:54,240
Speaker 2: sign a shoe deal with Nike worth at least eight

1672
01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:56,960
Speaker 2: figures or well into eight figures, I believe, is what

1673
01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:59,840
Speaker 2: sham Sharania was reporting on the Up and Adam Show

1674
01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:03,200
Speaker 2: are friend Kay Adams. The shoe deal is well north

1675
01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:06,040
Speaker 2: of twenty million dollars, is what he said. How far

1676
01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:08,400
Speaker 2: beyond that he doesn't know, but it's well north of

1677
01:17:08,439 --> 01:17:12,080
Speaker 2: twenty million dollars. The thing about this too, was there

1678
01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:13,759
Speaker 2: was a bidding war for Kaitlyn Clark.

1679
01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 5: It wasn't just Nike.

1680
01:17:15,320 --> 01:17:19,040
Speaker 2: It was And what makes so much sense too is

1681
01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:21,599
Speaker 2: we talk so much about how Kitlin Clark has modeled

1682
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:25,960
Speaker 2: her game after Steph Curry and has actually been able

1683
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:28,720
Speaker 2: to apply that to the women's game along with her

1684
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:31,800
Speaker 2: own personal touches. And Steph Curry is an under rummer guy,

1685
01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:36,280
Speaker 2: and under Armer pitched Caitlin really heavy, so much so

1686
01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:40,640
Speaker 2: that they had Steph Curry FaceTime into the meeting to

1687
01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:46,120
Speaker 2: try and get Kaitlyn Clark. This is finally you're seeing

1688
01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:51,960
Speaker 2: these very rich endorsement deals for these WNBA athletes, And

1689
01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:55,519
Speaker 2: while that doesn't have a direct impact on how much

1690
01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:59,479
Speaker 2: the league itself, makes you think about the visibility that

1691
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:02,040
Speaker 2: these women players are going to get, which should translate

1692
01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:05,840
Speaker 2: eyes to the women's game, which then does have an

1693
01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:11,479
Speaker 2: impact on revenue, streams, media rights deals, all that fun stuff.

1694
01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:14,280
Speaker 2: We were talking to Annie about earlier, and this is just,

1695
01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:16,360
Speaker 2: you know, another step in the right direction.

1696
01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:17,559
Speaker 5: I love it. I love it so much.

1697
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:18,560
Speaker 3: Oh, it's fantastic.

1698
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:22,040
Speaker 4: And she's probably it's reportedly she's gonna have a signature shoe.

1699
01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:25,200
Speaker 4: And so that shoe does well and you've got people

1700
01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:28,000
Speaker 4: wearing that shoe all over the place, then other w

1701
01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:30,519
Speaker 4: NBA athletes are going to have these kind of deals.

1702
01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:32,959
Speaker 4: It's a trickle down effect and it's going to be amazing.

1703
01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:35,880
Speaker 4: I am for sure buying a Caitlin Clark signature shoe

1704
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:38,320
Speaker 4: if it, if it all comes a fruition, if I

1705
01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:39,880
Speaker 4: can get it, where do I is there? I need

1706
01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:41,160
Speaker 4: someone to send me a link to us.

1707
01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:42,960
Speaker 5: I know who's got I need a plug. I don't

1708
01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:43,760
Speaker 5: have a sneaker plug.

1709
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:46,320
Speaker 2: Like I'm trying death really to be a sneaker person,

1710
01:18:46,479 --> 01:18:48,240
Speaker 2: and I just don't have the plug. And there's so

1711
01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:51,040
Speaker 2: many of these shoes. You have to have a plug.

1712
01:18:51,080 --> 01:18:53,240
Speaker 2: You can't just like you can just going on a

1713
01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:54,719
Speaker 2: Nike dot com and get one.

1714
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:57,800
Speaker 4: But I love the idea, I mean, I just love

1715
01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:03,599
Speaker 4: the idea of young girls budding WNBA stars being like

1716
01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:06,040
Speaker 4: coming home and saying I've got to get the Kitlin

1717
01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:09,160
Speaker 4: Clark shop, that is just that just brings a smle up.

1718
01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:11,800
Speaker 2: I mean, you see celebrities wearing her jersey. Even now

1719
01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:15,719
Speaker 2: you see other basketball like NBA players wearing Kaitlin Clark jerseys.

1720
01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:18,320
Speaker 2: This is opening the door in so many ways as

1721
01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:20,759
Speaker 2: Kitlin Clark has done just for the women's game in general,

1722
01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:25,000
Speaker 2: you see that she's now affecting the bottom line, which

1723
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:27,400
Speaker 2: I think is what is actually going to grow this sport,

1724
01:19:27,439 --> 01:19:30,040
Speaker 2: because that's it all comes down in money.

1725
01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:31,400
Speaker 3: It's business.

1726
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:32,080
Speaker 5: It's it's a.

1727
01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:34,760
Speaker 2: Business, and if you can prove that the WNBA is

1728
01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:37,080
Speaker 2: a viable business, that you know, this is a viable

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Speaker 2: model to invest in, which it always has been, but

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Speaker 2: now you're actually getting the eyes that it deserves. You're

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Speaker 2: breaking all these viewership records all the way down to

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Speaker 2: the NCAA level with the nil and all that kind

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Speaker 2: of stuff. We're going to see athletes really have a

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Speaker 2: lot more power to bring these brands along. But I

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Speaker 2: want to thank you Tracy for bringing me along because

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Speaker 2: this is my first time hosting with Alex Gon and

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Speaker 2: you were a wonderful partner in crime guys at Chris Purfet,

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Speaker 2: Bo Benson, Kevin Wyre.

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Speaker 5: Thank you guys so much. This was awesome.

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Speaker 2: We are going to see I'll see you again next

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Speaker 2: Saturday alongside Alex Curry.

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Speaker 5: Thank you guys so much for joining us. You have

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Speaker 5: a great Saturday.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Sports Radio