1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 2: This portion of the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous 4 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 2: Podcast is presented by Gerber making parents lives easier by 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 2: putting our high standards into every pouch Jar and Puff 6 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 2: Babies Love Ashley. We have a lot to catch up on. 7 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 2: We were in Carmel last week, Carmel, California, that is 8 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 2: for our annual Almost Famous trip to the Pebble Beach 9 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 2: pro am m hm. 10 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 3: So first, I want you to tell me about that 11 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 3: and Winnie's first birthday, because I mean first birthday that's 12 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 3: a huge dale. And then we had a trip with 13 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 3: Jaden Tanner this week. So let's talk about some first 14 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 3: when it comes to Winnie's first year, how what was 15 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 3: her first solid food? 16 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 2: Her first solid food was, would avocados be considered solids 17 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 2: like bananas and avocados? Yes, yes, yeah, And but honestly, 18 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 2: I think back, I don't know if I know her 19 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 2: first od I'm sure Jess could answer this, like right 20 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 2: out the top of her head. But when we were 21 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 2: in Italy when he was six months old, and we 22 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 2: let when he like suck on like a hard pizza crust, 23 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 2: and she loved it. 24 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 3: Love, she loved okay because she had no she wasn't 25 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 3: going to like break it off because no, she was. 26 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 2: Gone and we would like take it from her when 27 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 2: it got soft. But I think that would be the 28 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 2: first like sensation of solids that she had. And now, 29 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 2: I mean the girl eats like crazy. I mean she 30 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 2: is a fiend when it comes to food. She loves 31 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 2: food and she here's the cute part. So she takes 32 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 2: a bite to something and if she likes it, which 33 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 2: I haven't known her not to like something yet, she 34 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 2: goes mmmm. 35 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 4: So Hayden is our foodie. 36 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 3: It's just really funny to see him enjoy food, try 37 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 3: a whole bunch of different ones when we were at 38 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 3: Vendanta down in Port of Virata this week. He's like 39 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 3: the kid that will eat hibachi, Like he's trying all 40 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 3: different cuisines and stuff. And when he sees a commercial 41 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 3: on TV for any kind of food, he points and 42 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 3: he goes, mmm, yeah, isn't it hilarious? 43 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 4: Like any fast food. 44 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 2: It's funny to watch a kid because I realize now 45 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 2: why as adults we have the same reactions, like why 46 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 2: wouldn't we have good food? We got m m or whatever, 47 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 2: like that's his nat Like. She hasn't been taught this. 48 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 2: This hasn't been like put in her mind by. 49 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 4: A commercial natural reaction. 50 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 2: It's a natural reaction, just like when she sees something cool. 51 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 2: Whoa yeah, Like that's a natural reaction for her, which 52 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 2: makes sense on why it sticks with us even today. 53 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 2: And I think I'm picking up now on what's natural 54 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 2: and what's not because she hasn't watched any shows. She 55 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 2: doesn't know anything more than like and oh, or here's 56 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 2: another one. She has like a drink of some kind 57 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 2: a pouch or some water and it like quinches her thirst. 58 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 2: She goes, yeah, it's so cute. 59 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 3: So I heard that you guys didn't do a traditional 60 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 3: cake for her first birthday, so she didn't have her 61 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 3: first bite of cake on her first birthday. 62 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 2: I think you could call it a cake. Jessica made 63 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 2: it and it was a sugar free cake. 64 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 3: So it was like, look at you guys, this is 65 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 3: such a first child thing. 66 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 4: Wait till she eats everything. Wait till your second eats everything. 67 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 2: I don't know. Jessica's very like stringent on some things, 68 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 2: and it's not out of like it doesn't feel like 69 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 2: it's out of effort. It's more like she doesn't want 70 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 2: when he having sugar until two years old. It's a 71 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 2: very important thing for for Jess, and I think it 72 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 2: will stick because Jess, you know, has this history of 73 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 2: you know, her relationship with food, okay, and it's why 74 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 2: she's so she actually gets on me, like even when 75 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 2: he being one, Like what I say about food, the 76 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 2: language I use abound food, what kind of food when 77 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 2: he eats and doesn't eat, like the diet she has, 78 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 2: the recipes she's making. I think it will stick. And 79 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 2: a lot of things will get, you know, different with 80 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 2: the second. But I do think food and Jess's desire 81 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 2: to give Winona high quality food that is healthy for 82 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 2: her will stick for every child. Based on my wife's. 83 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 4: Past, Okay. 84 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 3: So I was much more careful with Hayden's diet and 85 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 3: getting him to try. 86 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 4: New foods because of the way that. 87 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 3: Dawson has responded to food, because he turns like one and. 88 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 4: A half and started to get picky. 89 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 3: And I am very much trying to focus on Hayden 90 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 3: not getting picky. I want him to eat all the 91 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 3: good things that he's been eating. One thing that we 92 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 3: did with both kids, because I was very nervous about 93 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 3: starting starting solids. 94 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 4: Not like an avocado. That doesn't make me nervous. 95 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 3: But you know how, you guys did you do baby 96 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 3: lead weaning or whatever the heck it's called. 97 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:34,359 Speaker 2: I don't know what that means. 98 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 3: Okay, So that means like basically, your kid has like 99 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 3: a flank of steak when they don't have teeth, and 100 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 3: they like gnaw and they like gnaw on like huge 101 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 3: carrots and stuff. 102 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 4: And I was like, absolutely not, but you guys did that. 103 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 2: Yes, we did that, Okay. That was part of the 104 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 2: Italy trip too. Was like, yeah, that was like get 105 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 2: six months. I think we started to sinking, introduced like 106 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 2: good cuts of meat that she could like suck. 107 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 4: Oh you did do that, okay. 108 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 3: So I just couldn't deal. So I loved using gerbers. 109 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 3: They're puffs, so they have strawberry apple puffs and then 110 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 3: blueberry puffs we use, and then they have melts too, 111 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 3: so they have their mixed berry melts. 112 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 4: All of those things I will still use today if I. 113 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 3: Need the Hayden to just leave me a load for 114 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 3: a second and like him to be distracted. But they 115 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 3: melt in your mouth, but they have like a solid form. 116 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 3: It's like a piece of cereal. That's like how it feels. 117 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 3: But they can't choke on them. Oh you are familiar? 118 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 3: Are they the best distraction? If you need a minute, 119 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 3: you're like, here you go. 120 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 2: The loves a good puff and melt. Yeah this is 121 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 2: And maybe I don't know if you did this or not, 122 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 2: but my wife does this. She'll bring the puffs with 123 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 2: us when we travel. Puffs and melts then big travel things. 124 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 2: But she snacks on them too. 125 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you could have them. They're pretty good. They are. 126 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 2: I can obviously have them. I'm I'm a human, But 127 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 2: like Jessica, like, she'll bring them for her and Winnie, I. 128 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 3: Don't love them melts as much as I like the puffs. 129 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 3: I will say the puffs tastes like cereals. 130 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:13,559 Speaker 4: May I like those? 131 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 3: And then the pouches, Oh my gosh, my kids with 132 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 3: these pouches. So Gerber has a couple of really delicious ones, 133 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 3: the very berry fruit puree and yogurt pouch, and then 134 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 3: the few pure and yogurt strawberry banana pouch. There are 135 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 3: so such hot commodities in my house that I can't 136 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 3: put them in the actual pantry. 137 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 4: I have to put them in. 138 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 3: The top cabinet and then push them back so they're 139 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 3: not even seen by either kid. They go pouch crazy. 140 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, you guys, you can't have like three 141 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 3: pouches in a row. You're supposed to just like have 142 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 3: them basically one a day. And even Hayden, like, I'll 143 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 3: open up the pantry and I'll be like, see, nothing's 144 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 3: in here, and then he'd be like, h h point 145 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 3: to the upward one like he knows. 146 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, Like that's how well these kids love their Gerber pajas. 147 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. We I mean, these have been such a staple 148 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 2: in our house for so long now. I mean I 149 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 2: can't even remember when it started, but it feels like 150 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 2: it's been since the beginning. I know it wasn't, but 151 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 2: it seems like it's been since the beginning. And as 152 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 2: I mentioned, Jessica more than me, but I think I 153 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 2: would like to think I care too. I do care. 154 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 2: I just I am not as focused on it or 155 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 2: as intentional about it, but is so passionate about giving 156 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 2: any good clean products. And one of the things I've 157 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 2: learned along the way, which I didn't even think about 158 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 2: before being a dad was that you know, many companies 159 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 2: you don't you know, wanna maybe provide to your child 160 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 2: because they aren't certified and they aren't clean. But I 161 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,839 Speaker 2: learned that Gerber has many products that are clean label 162 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 2: projects certified. I like that. I know Jessica likes that 163 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 2: and in it. Actually, it's so it's so foreign to 164 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 2: me because I did it grow up. I don't think 165 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 2: our time in childhood where people were super concerned about 166 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 2: what was being put in our bodies. I think it 167 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 2: was like, just eat it and be happy and you stop, 168 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 2: you know, crying. 169 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 3: We looked at calorie content, that was it calorie yeah, exactly. 170 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 2: And now there is such a focus on good, healthy, 171 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 2: clean products for infants, which is I mean, it makes 172 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 2: so much sense and it's so amazing that it's right 173 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 2: there in front of you. And these pouches obviously are 174 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 2: a great way to get the calories, to get the 175 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 2: nutrition and also know that you know when when you 176 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 2: sucking it down that she's getting something you know, good 177 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 2: and healthy. 178 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 4: Yeah. 179 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 3: I always had a with Hayden, especially since I mentioned 180 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 3: that I was trying to do so much better with him. 181 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,199 Speaker 4: I made a lot of my own homemade. 182 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 3: Meals for him when he was going the transition from 183 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 3: I guess just formula honestly to solids. I made like 184 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 3: all these elaborate pures, and then of course on the 185 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 3: go would love to have the pouches. So one other 186 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 3: thing I want to ask you about with the with 187 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 3: the first things is what was her first word? 188 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 2: Her first word was baba. 189 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 4: Well that's not a word for bottle. 190 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,319 Speaker 2: What is it for brother? Brother? Wa? 191 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 4: So she's asking for a brother already, ah bro. 192 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 2: She wakes up every morning still, this has been four months, 193 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 2: three months in the making. She wakes up every morning 194 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 2: and I can hear her get up. Jessica gets her up, 195 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:37,199 Speaker 2: and then I get up kind of like right after she. 196 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 2: I hear her yell baba baba, and then Whalen comes 197 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 2: a running and then they say good morning. It's wild. 198 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 2: But I think the first, I mean, her first clear 199 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 2: word was I mean you could say mama. Jessica worked 200 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 2: really hard on that one, Dada, baba and h and 201 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 2: now she's getting it's really cute. She says thank you, 202 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 2: So she says it all long. 203 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 3: Well you know there she is six months younger than 204 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 3: Hayden and already more advanced. 205 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 4: Thank you yeah. 206 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 2: She gives you like a toy and when she's playing 207 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 2: and she goes thank you, it's very cute. 208 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 4: So cute, yeah, so cute. 209 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 3: It wasn't Hayden's first word, but he's been saying Disney lately, 210 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 3: which is hilarious. Oh yeah, whenever, this is like your kid, 211 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 3: just like you know, she eats steak and she doesn't 212 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 3: watch TV. And I'm like, when he sees food commercials, 213 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 3: who goles you? And then when he sees the Disney Castle, 214 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 3: he goes. 215 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 4: Disney. 216 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, i mean, who knows what the right way to 217 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 2: do it is. But it's hilarious. And for so long 218 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, we're not going to do screen time, 219 00:11:56,679 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 2: and we're not for a while, but there there are 220 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 2: moments where I'm like, oh yeah, that sounds nice, like 221 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 2: give her, give her the iPad like this. This chick's 222 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 2: been crawling and moving across our floors and standing up 223 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 2: and everything for the last few months, and it's exhausting. 224 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 2: When she's home with me during the day, she is 225 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 2: a like a tornado of chaos. In my office, which 226 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,439 Speaker 2: is the one place that's not baby proofed right now 227 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 2: is my office because it really just like can't be. 228 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know what i'd do. 229 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, are those things behind you bolted to the wall. 230 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's like torn in this office. No goodness, No, 231 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 2: you got it. 232 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 4: You gotta do it. 233 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 2: I know that's a good that's actually a really you 234 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 2: sound like my wife. 235 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 4: Sorry to call you out. 236 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 3: You don't have to worry about it because she just 237 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 3: started she just started walking. 238 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, you sound like my wife. There are there here 239 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 2: in our house. They are ready. Everything is ready to 240 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 2: be mounted to walls. I have made strides, but not 241 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 2: to completion on the projects that need to be done. 242 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 2: I will say all the corners of our tables are 243 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 2: rounded now with a pad. 244 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 4: We never did that. 245 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's smart because she hits her head and she 246 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 2: doesn't panic. But yeah, you know, there are so many 247 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 2: first right now. Obviously, Ashley, you just got back from 248 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 2: a trip with Jaden Tanner, and your kids aren't maybe 249 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 2: having their first experiences. But I guess I am curious, 250 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 2: are you past the first stage or are there're still 251 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 2: first happening for all of you? 252 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 4: Well, there's always gonna be a first, you know. 253 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 3: I remember being so stressed about getting Dawson to speak, 254 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 3: and I'm just like, how do you teach someone how 255 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 3: to speak? And now he says all these things and 256 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,439 Speaker 3: I'm like, how did you ever even learn what that 257 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 3: word is? I really don't know. 258 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 4: It's like I ever like told you what the word like. 259 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,319 Speaker 3: Blush okay for example, Okay, he probably doesn't know what 260 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,599 Speaker 3: blushes like pencil Okay, he said the word pencil the 261 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 3: other day, and I'm like, did I ever say this 262 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,199 Speaker 3: is a versus? Like this is a marker or a cramon, 263 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 3: like this is a pencil? Like you just they know 264 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 3: these things and it's so crazy. So there's always first 265 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 3: to be had because you're always teaching them something new. 266 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 3: Like yesterday I taught him tic tac toe on the plane? 267 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, how long did that distract him? 268 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 4: For fifteen to twenty minutes? I honestly was the one 269 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 4: getting tired. 270 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 3: I think he could have gone on for and I 271 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 3: was just like kind of like dazing out, and I 272 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 3: was like, all right, you want to watch a movie again? 273 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 4: Because it was like ten thirty and it's been a 274 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 4: long day. 275 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 3: But yeah, so I would say that traditional first like 276 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 3: first steps, first, food, first, ward and all that that 277 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 3: is technically over and I'm okay, with that, I think 278 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 3: it's just more fun as they get older and more advanced. 279 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 3: But anyway, yeah, we had a trip with Jaden Tanner 280 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 3: and that is a non traditional first that we had. 281 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 3: They had their first trip to Vedanta, which is where 282 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 3: I kind of say Jared and I met, Like technically 283 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 3: we met at ply Escandida we did, but you know, 284 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 3: the Porta airt area. Last time, when Jared and I 285 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 3: were down there almost a year ago for Tanya's wedding, 286 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 3: we were like, we have to take the kids here. 287 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 3: With Jaden Tanner and their kids, it was really really fun. 288 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 3: It was a lot of travel because it was six 289 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 3: and a half hours in the air basically with the kids. 290 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, you live in a very corner part of the country, 291 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 2: that's the problem. 292 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 4: Yes, it's hard. 293 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 3: I know Jade and Tanner only had four hours in 294 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 3: the air and that's a big difference, especially when you 295 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 3: have like a four they're four to eight or they're 296 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 3: five to eight. 297 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 4: That's the span of their kids, and with a four 298 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 4: year old and a one and a half year old, 299 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 4: that is a lot of airtime. 300 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 3: You know, you guys went to Italy, which is crazy. 301 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 3: What your child is very easy young lady. 302 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 2: We just had our first birthday this last week, she 303 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 2: turned one, and I think afterwards Jessica and I decided 304 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 2: and you tell me if you think this is wrong 305 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 2: when it comes to throwing a party, Yeah, the first 306 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 2: does feel. It was felt good to do. We had 307 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 2: a ton of people show up, which is so fun. 308 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 2: We did this thing. Here's an idea for anybody. We 309 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 2: did a like a build a bear session like section 310 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 2: for all the little kids, and that's kind of popular 311 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 2: for anybody twelve and under and really for anybody. It 312 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 2: was fun. So we did a stuff a whalen, so 313 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 2: we had like little whalens made and then we had 314 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 2: like the foam set up that's so cute stuff. And 315 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 2: that was like because I didn't know what to do 316 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 2: for a first birthday. Mostly it was like a boozy brunch. 317 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 2: It's for the parents, it's for the adults. But we're 318 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 2: glad we did it. But I think we'll do the 319 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 2: first birthday, maybe a fifth, but definitely like then once 320 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 2: they like when he starts making friends, we'll start to 321 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 2: do it again, like maybe ten, we'll throw another party. 322 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 4: That's my thought too. 323 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 3: I think Instagram puts a lot of pressure on parents 324 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 3: to have to do a birthday party. 325 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 4: For their kid every year. 326 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 3: And this year we asked Austin, like, what do you 327 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 3: want because he just turned four a couple weeks ago, 328 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 3: and he just kept saying, I want Back to the 329 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 3: Future cake, Okay, and that's all I That's what I 330 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 3: did for him. That's all I did for him. But 331 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 3: like that was his big gift. He had two Back 332 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 3: to the Future cakes, one here and then one in Virginia. 333 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 3: Last year he kept saying, I want a Chuck E 334 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 3: Cheese birthday party, and that's what we did for him. 335 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,360 Speaker 3: So it's like whatever he asked for, we gave him 336 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 3: the best birthday week here, but we didn't have a 337 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 3: traditional party. He went to Monster Trucks with Jared, and 338 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 3: then he went to a Capital's game, and he went 339 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 3: to his favorite play places, and he had lunch at Chucky's. 340 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 4: He did like all the things that we didn't do a. 341 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 3: Birthday party party for him, because like, yeah, they don't 342 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 3: really make good friends that they care about hanging out 343 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 3: with until they're older. With Dawson, like his school friends, 344 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 3: like he gets along with him in school. 345 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 4: Whatever, I'm like. 346 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 3: Do you want to hang out with him? In real life, 347 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 3: Like do you want to go to the park with him? 348 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 3: It's like, no, they're school Frad's Oh I say that 349 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 3: about school, It's like, you know, they're very opinionated. And 350 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 3: if I were to have a party, I would just 351 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 3: have like his cousins. So it's like, no, I don't 352 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 3: have to have a part all the time. 353 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 2: I think the lesson there is not everything you see 354 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 2: on social media is necessary or the most helpful or 355 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 2: healthy option for your family. 356 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 4: Exactly. He didn't want that. He didn't want a party 357 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 4: this year. 358 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 2: Hey, I do want to mention one last time here. 359 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 2: Gerber is sponsoring this segment because we and both of 360 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 2: our households love Gerber. They have sent some stuff to 361 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 2: our house even though we have been buying it for 362 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 2: months at our local stores. But they did send some 363 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 2: stuff made when he very happy. I know it makes 364 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 2: Ashley's kids very happy as well. A ton of different 365 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:58,919 Speaker 2: recipes that are included in the pouches, the melts and 366 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 2: if for four years old only. They do have a 367 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 2: very erry fruit puree and yogurt pouch and getams. 368 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 4: The gettams are really good. They taste like animal crackers. 369 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 2: I love it. I love it so we saw. 370 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 4: Them on the plane. They're great plan snacks. 371 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 2: But the pouches, the melts and the puffs are a 372 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 2: staple in our household and especially when we travel. They 373 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 2: are chef's kiss good. You've been listening to the Ben 374 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 2: and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast brought to you by Gerber, 375 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 2: providing the nutrition babies need, the taste they love, and 376 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 2: the support for parents. But we actually have a lot 377 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 2: of Bachelor Nation headlines to jump into as well today, 378 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 2: So to start with this one, a former Bachelor is 379 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 2: making it down the aisle for the very first time. 380 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 2: Former Bachelor Jake Pavelka is engaged. 381 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 3: Congratulations to Jake. He was engaged to be in it, 382 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 3: wasn't he? So is it it too early for us 383 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 3: to be saying he's making it down the aisle? Sorry, sorry, Jake, 384 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 3: just poking fun. So he's a pilot turned entrepreneur and 385 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 3: he's forty eight now. 386 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 4: They've been dating for two years. 387 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 3: She's forty one and she works in aerospace in defense contracts. 388 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 4: That's like, whoa hardcore? That's awesome. 389 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 3: They got engaged on November twenty second, and they recently 390 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 3: revealed this to Exclusive People Exclusively in the month between 391 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 3: picking up Amy's rowing. In proposing, Jake says that he 392 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 3: went back and forth on whether to do it in 393 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 3: a big, extravagant way or do something intimate and simple, 394 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 3: and he said that he went with the second option. 395 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 3: After dinner at Drake's Hollywood They're nearby, which is nearby 396 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 3: their apartment in Dallas, Texas, he just popped the question 397 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 3: when they arrived home. We went and had a great dinner. 398 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 3: We laughed, had champagne, We took anw We're back to 399 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 3: our apartment. I had rose petals on the ground and 400 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 3: I set up a table with candles. Walking to the apartment, 401 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 3: she was like, what's going on here? Did somebody break 402 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 3: into our apartment? She was looking at the table and 403 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 3: trying to figure out how the candle gotlet That's actually 404 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 3: a really good question. 405 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 4: Who went in there and did it? She said? He 406 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:19,239 Speaker 4: said that. 407 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 3: Then she turned around and he was down on one 408 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 3: knee with a really pretty ring, and I asked her 409 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 3: to marry me. She kind of gasped, muttered, yes. This 410 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 3: is very descriptive, very novel of Jake. It was sweet 411 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 3: and intimate, and I definitely made the right choice in 412 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 3: keeping it private. A really special moment. 413 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 2: I've been able to meet Jake Pavelka. I don't know 414 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 2: who knows about this or if we've mentioned it before, 415 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 2: but there is a was a slot machine or still 416 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,239 Speaker 2: is a slot machine. That is I was with you, 417 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 2: then you were with me yep, and we did the 418 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 2: slot machine unveiling and he's one of the other bachelors 419 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 2: that are part of this slot machine. So I got 420 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 2: to meet Jake there. Nice guy. Rachel Lindsay, I saw 421 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,439 Speaker 2: this headline. I don't know why I've been just like 422 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 2: so curious about this breakup because it feels like it's 423 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 2: so much more messy than what we're actually seeing, which 424 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 2: is fair. It's a divorce. I don't know if I 425 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 2: need to be in the midst of anybody's divorce, but 426 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 2: I have been curious about how this has played out 427 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 2: because right away he got contentious. Rachel Lindsay says she 428 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 2: felt powerless over not having a prenup with ruthless x Brian. 429 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 2: This ruthless is. 430 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 4: A ruthless cooked. Yeah, it's a strong word. 431 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 3: So she was on the Pop Syllabus podcast this past 432 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 3: Thursday and she said, I'm free. I felt powerless that 433 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 3: I didn't have a prenup. And I've been reading some 434 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 3: of the comments under these divorce posts and a lot 435 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 3: of people are. 436 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:53,120 Speaker 4: Like, how is she? 437 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 3: Is she an attorney who didn't have a prenup? You know, 438 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 3: especially in the situation that they got married, and you know, 439 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 3: she was the bachelor at and she was on extra 440 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 3: and all that stuff. So they've been split up for 441 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 3: two years. They were just finalized a divorce in January. 442 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 3: In the divorce decree, I guess it's like the brief, right, 443 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 3: Rachel was ordered to pay Brian about thirteen thousand dollars 444 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 3: each month in temporary alimony, fifteen thousand for his attorney's 445 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 3: fees okay in general, right, not each month, but okay, 446 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,400 Speaker 3: fifteen thousand for his attorney sees in five thousand for 447 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:41,959 Speaker 3: forensic expert expenses, which I guess means them going through 448 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 3: all of the things that they had done together and 449 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 3: owed together and all that. She made her final support 450 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 3: payment the last month. Finally free, she wrote on Instagram, 451 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 3: closing one chapter literally writing. 452 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 4: The next she has a book that's going to come out. 453 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 3: Would I will be reading this book if it's about 454 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 3: all these true details? She said he was ruthless about it. 455 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 3: There was no compromising. 456 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 4: I'm sorry. 457 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 3: I don't mean to make some of these divorce entertainment. 458 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 3: But she's open about it. She's calling him ruthless. He 459 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 3: was ruthless about it. There was no compromising. I want 460 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 3: to write all about it. I do want to tell 461 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 3: that story, but I want the divorce book that I 462 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 3: was looking for. I want to talk about I want 463 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 3: to talk about other book essays. I want to tell 464 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 3: readers in each essay a story about what happened. She 465 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 3: says she wants to write a book of essays highlighting 466 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 3: her post divorce community, as well as the societal pressures 467 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 3: that drove her to marriage to marriage in the first place. 468 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 3: She said, I want to talk about dating in my forties. 469 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 3: I was thirty nine when I got divorced. What does 470 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 3: that look like. I want to talk about fertility. I've 471 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 3: never told that story. I do want to know about 472 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,360 Speaker 3: that too, because I think we all kind of we're 473 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 3: talking about when she was thirty nine and got divorced, 474 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 3: not you know, because I remember her discussing that it 475 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 3: was a month or two before they announced their split, 476 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,719 Speaker 3: that they were talking about trying to get pregnant. So 477 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 3: she's finally going to answer those questions soon. 478 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 2: It's I read somewhere that it was she had to 479 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,679 Speaker 2: pay off until it reached a half a million. Do 480 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 2: you know if that's true? 481 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know. Well, I don't think so, because 482 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 3: if you do the math, well, if you do the 483 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 3: math on that she had to do fifteen, she had 484 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,679 Speaker 3: to do about thirteen thousand every month times two months, 485 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 3: I mean, for two years. 486 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 2: It's not a small amount of money. I am curious 487 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,880 Speaker 2: and somebody out there could explain it to me. How 488 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 2: did they decide that she owed him that much money? 489 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:52,199 Speaker 2: I mean, is it just by the income disparity? Is 490 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 2: that how this happens? 491 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 3: I guess so, because he filed for spousal support because 492 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 3: they were living primarily off her income. It was if 493 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 3: we did that in math, it's three hundred and eighteen 494 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 3: thousand that she's paid him over the past two years. 495 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 3: And that's not including the attorney's fees and stuff. And 496 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,199 Speaker 3: I do want to say this one thing. This is 497 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 3: a comment that Brian made. This is a long time 498 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,640 Speaker 3: ago July twenty twenty four. He said we didn't spend 499 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,400 Speaker 3: enough time with each other. In my estimation, we saw 500 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 3: the other person mainly on Instagram, although we lived in 501 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:29,719 Speaker 3: the same house. 502 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 2: It's it's I mean, let there's a reason the divorce 503 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,239 Speaker 2: is happening, right, I mean, that doesn't sound like a 504 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:40,719 Speaker 2: healthy relationship. If you're keeping up with your spouse who 505 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 2: you're living in the same house with through social media, 506 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 2: I would say that's probably a red flag for Hey, 507 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 2: things need to change somehow, someway. This the final thing 508 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 2: I want to close out here. Rachel did make a 509 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 2: quote and said my divorce was public and messy for 510 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 2: a reason, and learn from me. That's what she says 511 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 2: leading up to the release of her book about all 512 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 2: the things Ashley's already mentioned. Moving on to another bachelorette, 513 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 2: Claire Crawley. Claire Crawley addresses pregnancy rumors after her husband 514 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 2: held her stomach and kissing pick. 515 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 4: It's pretty simple. 516 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 3: She posted a picture around Valentine's Day of her husband 517 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 3: holding just holding her stomach like basically like her waist area, 518 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 3: the front of her waist and then captioned it heart 519 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 3: times three and she was referring to her him and 520 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 3: their daughter who's two, and she goes, wow, I didn't 521 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 3: realize that I couldn't post a picture of my husband 522 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,919 Speaker 3: touching my stomach when he kissed me without getting you know, 523 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 3: pregnancy rumors. 524 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 4: No one's pregnant here. 525 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 2: Kelsey Anderson says she would throw up if she had 526 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,919 Speaker 2: to rewatch this moment from her Bachelor season. 527 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 3: They recently did an interview with People magazine Kelsey and 528 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 3: Joey and They said. The question was what on screen 529 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 3: moment from your TV history do you still love to 530 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 3: watch or never hope to see again. Kelsey said, I 531 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 3: hope I never have to watch Joey kiss another girl again. 532 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 3: I'd throw up. And then he said, that's so fair. 533 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 3: I do sneakily watch our engagement moment. I could just 534 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 3: see how excited I was to start my life with Kelsey. 535 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 4: That was such a pure moment. That is so cute. 536 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 4: You don't watch Anything Over, do you? 537 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 2: No? I haven't seen it. 538 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 4: I watch you wouldn't. I mean, it make no sense 539 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 4: for you to watch Anything Over again? But maybe Caitlin 540 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 4: season would be funny. Wouldn't that be funny? 541 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 2: There's moments if I could like find the exact moments 542 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 2: that I'd actually love for Jessica to even see and 543 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 2: think it'd be funny to like rip on me as 544 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 2: a young mid twenty year old. 545 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 3: But yeah, I have we should watch the sex Talk date. 546 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 2: She should. Actually I might find this. 547 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 4: Never she's seen that. 548 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 2: She's never seen it. I guarantee you Jessica's never seen 549 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 2: more than a minute and a half of any time 550 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 2: I've been on The Bachelor, bachelortt or Winter Games. Never. 551 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 4: That's crazy, but she will. 552 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 3: She walked into your mom watching the show and then 553 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 3: she said that's a guy I would date. 554 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's about the extent of what. 555 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 3: She says it. Yeah, no way, Oh my gosh, you 556 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 3: have to watch some parts. Then that is the most 557 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 3: endearing thing ever. I mean I bring this up like 558 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 3: every six months. 559 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 2: If you find it, send it to me. 560 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 4: Okay, if you find it, I'll go search for it 561 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 4: for Yeah, she I'll go download on Apple. 562 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 2: She just has. I mean, I don't think we and 563 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 2: there's so it's so weird. I think it's one of 564 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 2: the weirder things in our life. Is like that chapter 565 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 2: has not discussed much in our house, Like The Bachelor 566 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 2: and Bachelortte are just not a conversation piece in our 567 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 2: home ever. But it is such a like pivotal season 568 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 2: of My Life. And obviously she hears about it when 569 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 2: we'round about and she doesn't care. She plays long or 570 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 2: does whatever. But we've never discussed it long enough for 571 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 2: me to be like, let me find this clip. She 572 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 2: just it's not a we never talk about it. Final 573 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 2: headline of Today, Tia Booth shares excitement over upcoming breast surgery. 574 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 3: You know, I love transparency when it comes to plastic surgery. 575 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 3: Tia got on her Instagram story and so that she's 576 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 3: getting her new boobs in the next two weeks, and 577 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 3: I am hype. She said, catch me never wearing a 578 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 3: real bra ever again. She said she's getting a smaller implant, 579 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 3: which implies that she already has some other bigger ones 580 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 3: in there. 581 00:30:56,320 --> 00:31:00,040 Speaker 4: A lift, an internal mesh bra. It's kind of like 582 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 4: an inside bra. 583 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 2: Really, that's the thing. 584 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 4: Well, you know, yes it is. 585 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 3: I didn't know that are small boobs in, you know, 586 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 3: I think it's just kind of like all boobs are in. 587 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 2: It just seems like every time on this show, you know, 588 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 2: we talk when we talk about like breast surgery, it's downsizing. Now. 589 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 2: Obviously some of that has been medical and necessities, but 590 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 2: also sometimes is just for the own benefit of the person. 591 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 2: I don't think we've even broke down anybody being like, yeah, 592 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 2: I'm getting double the sales. Yeah. 593 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 3: I think that everybody these days is kind of into 594 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 3: like enhancing and not Pamela Anderson, you know what I mean, 595 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 3: Like nobody wants to like be looked at and for 596 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 3: people to be like those are fake boobies. I think 597 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 3: everybody wants to be able to feel like they could 598 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 3: naturally pull them off, you know what I mean. 599 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 4: It's kind of just the trend in all things. 600 00:31:56,120 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 3: Just to look like maybe you're just slightly touched preservation. 601 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 2: Is in what a weird mental as we close up here, 602 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 2: does it feel like a mental like switch up? Because 603 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 2: you grew up in the era where it was like 604 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 2: the bigger, the better, right, the yeah, And now you're 605 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 2: an adult and it's like, no, let's just go for 606 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 2: the like, like you said, the enhancement inconvenience and the 607 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 2: ability to look good, feel good and you know, not 608 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 2: have these weights hanging off my chest. It has to 609 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 2: be weird, right, I mean, yeah, you probably grew up 610 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 2: being like I want the biggest ones. 611 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 3: My TikTok shop is showing me so many big boobies 612 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 3: that it makes me like be like, should I get 613 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 3: some boobies? 614 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 2: Wait? Why is your algorithm showing you that? 615 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 1: No? 616 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 3: Okay, so TikTok Shop not my algorithm. Well, I mean 617 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 3: it's certain agree the algorithm, but it's all these girls 618 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 3: like the nicest, fullest, and then the tiniest waste is 619 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 3: very nineties in like early two thousands coded they're not 620 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 3: ever done of these are real boobies anyway. Yeah, I 621 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 3: think trends are just always changing, and I think that 622 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 3: overall people are just like, don't make your body a trend. 623 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 3: Do whatever you want. Though at the same time, so 624 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 3: everything takes you feel you're most confident and beautiful. 625 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 2: That's a good lesson, though, it is. I think you 626 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 2: just spoken to some like if any younger people are listening, 627 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 2: I think what that lesson is is, Hey, what is 628 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 2: cool now might not be cool when you're thirty five 629 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 2: years old, and so be confident in the body that 630 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 2: you have, and you know, keep it healthy and happy. 631 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 2: But know that if you're sitting there at home you're like, 632 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 2: I just don't have this thing that I wish I 633 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 2: had in twenty years. We could flop right back and 634 00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 2: you could be rocking and rolling exactly. That's good exactly. 635 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 2: It's a good listen for all of us. Hey, this 636 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 2: has been the Almost Famous podcast. Thank you to Bachelor 637 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 2: Nation for continuing to provide us with headlines that we 638 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 2: can talk about and break down right here on the 639 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 2: Almost Famous Podcast. Until next time, I've Been Ben, I've 640 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 2: Been Ashley. See you. 641 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: Follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast on 642 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.