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You can hang 13 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 3: out with us on the iHeartRadio app. You can always 14 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:50,599 Speaker 3: find us on hundreds of affiliates here all across the country. 15 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 3: On this three hour extravaganza here on a Tuesday morning, 16 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 3: we opened up the show talking about the latest on 17 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 3: Stefan Diggs. Reportedly, according to Ian Report, the expectation is 18 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,839 Speaker 3: they will not release Devon Diggs, which would make some sense. 19 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 3: He was at OTA's wave to reporters there. Nice to 20 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 3: see you guys up here. Do not have any sort 21 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 3: of a pink substance with him in possession of him, 22 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 3: while at OTA's Frank Ragnow has decided to call it 23 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 3: a career. For the Detroit Lions, that's another loss for them, 24 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 3: and everybody's kind of monitoring and tracking what is happening 25 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 3: in Cleveland. A very fascinating storyline where the Cleveland Browns 26 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 3: have decided, you know what, why just focus on one 27 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,559 Speaker 3: quarterback when we can just have a bunch that all 28 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 3: do different things and all have different storylines. Joe Flacco 29 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:45,479 Speaker 3: is in his forties, trying to give it another go 30 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 3: here after winning a Super Bowl a few years back. 31 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 3: Kenny Pickett's trying to revitalize his career because things didn't 32 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 3: go well in Pittsburgh, but he did get a Super 33 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 3: Bowl with the Philadelphia Eagles. You've got Dylan Gabriel there, 34 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 3: who was drafted in the third round. You've got shad 35 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 3: Or Sanders who was drafted in the fifth. Meanwhile, off 36 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 3: in the distance is Deshaun Watson, Uh, you know, rehabbing 37 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 3: or making another TikTok video, which I believe, by the way, 38 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 3: is he did they get married? Is that is that happening? 39 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 1: Look like they got engaged, and so it looks like, well, hey, 40 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:26,519 Speaker 1: you know, there you go listen, we listen. 41 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 3: We've all, uh, we've all had to overcome something and 42 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 3: so it's good to see that he overcame whatever. 43 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 1: Go and touch it, not going touch No, don't worry, 44 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: they already did so. 45 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 3: Not married yet, nope, just just engaged as of right now. Well, 46 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 3: good for them, that's good for the for the happy 47 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 3: couple there, and hope everything works out for him. But 48 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:55,119 Speaker 3: while everyone's focused on the future. In the quarterback room 49 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 3: with the Cleveland Browns, Dion Sanders did take time to 50 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 3: talk about his and Shador Sanders and sort of the 51 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 3: conversation and narrative that was surrounding him going into the draft, 52 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 3: and he was on the Say What needs to be 53 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 3: Said to podcast and he spoke about the perception and 54 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 3: what it did for not only Shador but also Shiloh 55 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 3: as well. 56 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 4: The Bible says God uses the foolish things to confound 57 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 4: the wise. So it was some foolish stuff that went on, 58 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 4: but you know what, that that gave them something that 59 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 4: they needed, Like this gave them something that they said, 60 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 4: all right, you know that, like that, like that edge 61 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 4: that Tom had, like that edge that gave them that 62 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 4: edge that you had. It gave them the edge that 63 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 4: I had, you know, say we're gonna be that we 64 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 4: were gonna be. We had to prove that. That gave 65 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 4: them the edge that they needed. When you sit up 66 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 4: there and and say something like he went in a meeting, 67 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 4: I'm prepared, like dude Shadoor Sandas, who's had six different coordinators, 68 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 4: who has still function and went up, leveled up every 69 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 4: time we brought somebody new in. And you're gonna tell. 70 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: Me every situation. 71 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 4: You're gonna tell me he had on headphone? Should or 72 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 4: anybody know my son. I understand he's a professional, Like 73 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 4: he's gonna go on to meet with headphones. 74 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: On, like YO, come home. 75 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 3: So that was Dion Sanders defending his son and some 76 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 3: of the various reports that were out there following uh 77 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 3: the draft slide that took place. And I mean, look, 78 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 3: he does. I was waiting for him to be more 79 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 3: vocal about defending his son because I think I actually 80 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 3: expected him to talk more openly about it. But I 81 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 3: think he's just sort of taken. I'm gonna take a 82 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 3: step back. It's my son's career. Maybe I don't want 83 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,239 Speaker 3: to interject too much, but I'm calling it right now. 84 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 3: If shaud Or Sanders has the type of success that 85 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 3: they believed that he could have, and apparently the reviews 86 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 3: out of OTAs have been very, very good for shaud 87 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,359 Speaker 3: Or Sanders now he's performed. If he ends up getting 88 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 3: that starting job and ends up playing well, Dion Sanders 89 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 3: is going to have something for everybody, like he's going 90 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 3: to have something for everybody who questioned his son's commitment, 91 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 3: his preparation, his ability, so on and so forth. Based 92 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 3: on all of that, I think he's just letting it marinate, 93 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 3: letting it all sit there, and he's going to have 94 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 3: something for all the naysayers and the haters out there 95 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 3: of Shador Sanders going and going through the draft process. 96 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: All right. What Dion said is what a parent would 97 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 1: say about their their child, because a parent knows their 98 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 1: child better than anybody else does, so I think he 99 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: was speaking from a parent perspective in that SoundBite, not 100 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 1: from a coach's perspective. Is what I would offer to 101 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: that as it applies to where Shador is now and 102 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 1: what that situation looks like. Again, I'm going to continue 103 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: to maintain what I've maintained, and not reports, not reviews, 104 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: or anything else is going to change how I see this. 105 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:21,919 Speaker 1: It is an uphill battle for Shador Sanders, and for 106 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: what it's worth, it's it's not like like just thinking 107 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 1: sensibly of it and practically about it. If a kid 108 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: gets drafted in the fifth round of the draft and 109 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:43,799 Speaker 1: that very team took a player earlier in the draft 110 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: in the third round at the same position, it is 111 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: going to be a very very hard task for anyone. 112 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: Take that. Remove the name, remove the name, remove the 113 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 1: reasonings why, like you want to say, the reason why 114 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: he went in this round is because of X, Y 115 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: and Z. Remove all of those things and just look 116 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: at look at this from a face value perspective. You 117 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: have a quarterback that's worth over two hundred and thirty 118 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:26,239 Speaker 1: million dollars that isn't even going to be ready to play. 119 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: You bring in two vets ahead of the draft. One 120 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: of those vets played very well for the Cleveland Browns. 121 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: A year removed from that, played well in his spot 122 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: duties where he was at last year in Indy, gets 123 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: called to come back and to compete for the job, 124 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: and made it very clear he's going to compete for 125 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: the job in his interview he's not interested in being 126 00:07:56,360 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: a role model. Canny Pickett is like, he's the one 127 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: that's the one element, that's the one piece of this 128 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: puzzle that is the most undefined piece as it applies 129 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: to why would you bring him? Because he wasn't successful? 130 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: As he was not successful as a starter in Pittsburgh, 131 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: he took on the role of being a backup, gets 132 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl in Philly. But what does that lead to, 133 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: Like does his time in the league equate to him 134 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: being prepared to now be a starter in Cleveland? I 135 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: don't think so. So you're probably looking at Kenny Pickett 136 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: as being a backup. That's what you're probably looking at 137 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: and projecting Kenny Pickett to be. I do not think 138 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: you're projecting him to be a starter for your team. 139 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: So you bring in Joe Flacco to compete to be 140 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: the starter, who is he competing to be the starter with? 141 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: Are we are we basically saying there are going to 142 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: be enough reps, which we've this conversation has already been 143 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:15,319 Speaker 1: had plenty of times. There's going to be enough reps 144 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: between four players to be able to find your way 145 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: to the starting position from the last position drafted. Now, 146 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: I will say this is daunting a task as it 147 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: is for a fifth round draft pick that has a 148 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 1: third round draft pick in the same exact draft class 149 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: with two vets. This could be And this is where 150 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 1: what when you bring up Dion and how you say 151 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: he'll have something for everybody if if Shador Sanders pulls 152 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: through and is able to somehow defy the odds, Because 153 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: this is one hund a defying of the odds situation 154 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: for Shador Sanders, whether people want to admit that or not, 155 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: that's the truth. The faith element of this, you know, 156 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: it's like the spiritual element of this. It's such a 157 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:22,079 Speaker 1: major part of Dion Sanders' life. It's such a major 158 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: part of Shador and the Sanders families' lives. It's a 159 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 1: major part they're god fearing people. Well, it's one of 160 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: those moments. Is the one that was last going to 161 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: end up being the one that's first? You know, It's 162 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:43,959 Speaker 1: like Bob Marley had a song and one of the 163 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:47,079 Speaker 1: lyrics in the song was, but the stone that the 164 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:55,079 Speaker 1: builder refused shall be the head corner stone. Right. So basically, 165 00:10:56,320 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 1: Shador Sanders, in the situation that he is he is in, 166 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 1: finds himself with an interesting opportunity because if he were 167 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: to become the starter, that is probably the biggest story 168 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: in all of the National Football League when it happens. 169 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 3: And wouldn't you say that if that's the case and 170 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 3: he ends up being as good as Dion thinks he's 171 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 3: going to be, and he ends up giving Don the 172 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 3: opportunity to shout and talk about you guys were wrong, 173 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 3: so on, it doesn't that call into question the draft 174 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 3: process and evaluation process of everybody else who did pass 175 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 3: on him, because if the idea was well, we passed 176 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 3: on him not because of maybe skill set, but more 177 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 3: how he acted in meetings and how he came across 178 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 3: I could understand that to a point. But five rounds, there's. 179 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: Going to be a lot of people m out. Mel 180 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:04,199 Speaker 1: Kiper is going to come out thumping. There's going to 181 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: be a lot of people that come out and have 182 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: something to say if it plays out where Shador Sanders 183 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: ends up being a superstar, and you know, in Cleveland, 184 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: I would just ask the question, Lee, look it up. 185 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: How many fifth round draft pick quarterbacks end up starting 186 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: their rookie year. 187 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 3: I can think of one off the top of my head. 188 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:32,719 Speaker 3: Kyle Orton due to injury. I mean that was that 189 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 3: was due to injury and he had to play. I'm 190 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,079 Speaker 3: pretty sure he was a fifth round pick if I'm 191 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 3: not mistaken, But that was, you know, that was I 192 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 3: don't know that. It's not like he won the job. 193 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 3: That was due to injury he had, he had an 194 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 3: opportunity to play and go on there, and and the 195 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 3: second that Rex Grossman was back, they made the move 196 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 3: to go to Grossman, so that I didn't even think 197 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 3: that this was a him just winning the job outright. 198 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 1: But other than that, it's I can't I can't think of. 199 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: According to ESPN's mal kiper Junior, none of the qbs 200 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 1: picked in the fifth round have become regular starters over 201 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 1: the last thirty years. I just don't. Again, I hate 202 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 1: to be the one that kind of injects some just 203 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: logic to the scenario, but it's a daunting task, man, 204 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 1: and it's a task that won't It just doesn't seem 205 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: like that'll work out. 206 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:39,839 Speaker 3: Correction, Kyler was taken to the fourth round, fourth round, 207 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 3: not the thing. 208 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: And for what it's worth, how did his career go? 209 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: Was it not bad? 210 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:45,959 Speaker 3: You know? 211 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 1: Well? How long did he make it in? How long 212 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: was he a starter for? I remember him being pretty 213 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: good out of Purdue. It was a really good quarterback 214 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: at produe, like really good. 215 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 3: He ended up playing nine years. 216 00:13:57,679 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 1: It's not bad. How many did he start? 217 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 3: He had eighty two starts in nine years, forty two 218 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 3: and forty record, one hundred and one touchdown, sixty nine picks. 219 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I just hate the round pick. I 220 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: hate to be the bearer of bad news fifth round 221 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: draft picks. It's just it's especially again, especially with a 222 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: third round draft pick in the mix, it's not enough. Like, 223 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: how can you sit here and people say, we're going 224 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: to justify downgrading and downplaying the fact that Dylan Gabriel 225 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: is the third round draft pick for this team. Okay, 226 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: it's like Dylan Gabriel is a non factor in the conversation. 227 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 3: All right, So let me ask you this. If we're 228 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 3: talking about quarterbacks drafted by a team in the same 229 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 3: draft at different points in the draft. You were in 230 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 3: Washington when they took RG three and then took Kirk 231 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 3: Cousins later in the draft. Yeah, what was the conversation. 232 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 3: Like I remember at the time when they did that, thinking, well, 233 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 3: that's interesting that that seems a little uh, it seems 234 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 3: kind of interesting that that's how that would play out. 235 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 3: This is third and fifth, so it's a little different. 236 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 3: But that was also a situation in a scenario where 237 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 3: I don't know if anybody got the feeling going into 238 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 3: it that maybe Kirk Cousins had a real shot or 239 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 3: if this was just a best player available. 240 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: But that was a debate day one, and it was 241 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: a debate day one because of all of this dysfunction 242 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: that was taking place in Washington. And that was one 243 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: of those deals where it was like one of the 244 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: picks was Shanahan's and one of the picks was was 245 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: Dan Snyder's. And from what I heard, it was a 246 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: matter of he was an insurance policy two RG three. 247 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: I don't remember it off the top of my head, 248 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: but I feel like I feel like it was Kirk 249 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: Cousins was the insurance policy based off of if RG 250 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: three was going to be able to do it at 251 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: the pro level, like that that was how how I 252 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: got it, like somebody somebody didn't want to take RG three. 253 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: I just don't remember off the top of my head. 254 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: I don't want to mess it up, but I would 255 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: assume I would assume that kirk Cousins would have been 256 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: the one that the Shanahan's wonted. I would have assumed. 257 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: I would assume that, but I could be wrong. 258 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 3: What's that supposed to mean? 259 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: Well, I think people felt like some people felt like 260 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins came in with more of a skill set 261 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: that would fit what the Shanahan's offense what it was, 262 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: while while RG three was more of a you know, 263 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: more of a mobile quarterback. 264 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 3: I do wonder on that point, because listen, we don't 265 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 3: know who's going to be the quarterback, I mean worse. 266 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 3: You know, we can kind of speculate. I think it's 267 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 3: going to be Flacco. We don't know who the starter 268 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 3: is going to be. We know Deshaun Watson still got 269 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 3: more time left on his deal. Whatever the hell happens there. Like, 270 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 3: the one thing that we do know is if the 271 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 3: Browns are bad again this year, Kevin Stefanski's probably gone, 272 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:25,360 Speaker 3: like this is probably it. And I just wonder Stefanski, 273 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 3: which is why I believe he's going to ultimately go 274 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 3: with Joe Flacco as a starter, because he looks at 275 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 3: this and goes, man, if I have another bad year, 276 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 3: I'm out, yes, And I got to save my job, 277 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 3: and I just wonder how he felt about the decision 278 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 3: to take another quarterback with my fifth round pick after 279 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 3: we just took one in the third whether he looks 280 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 3: at that and goes, look, I need all the help 281 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 3: I can get. We can only start one quarterback. What 282 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 3: are we doing? Like, what's the plan here? Because look 283 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 3: you you saw the faces in the room and they made. 284 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: The decision no real real emotion, so. 285 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 3: You know, I mean, maybe this, maybe this is another 286 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 3: example of Jimmy Haslm getting involved and being like, well, 287 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 3: I like the storyline, much like maybe Dan Snyder got 288 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 3: involved in wanting to take RG three. 289 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: When he did. 290 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 3: I mean, they're just it's still is a strange move 291 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 3: to me. 292 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: Was a huge success though, Yeah, and they had and 293 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: they had great success with him. He was the Rookie 294 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: of the year. RG three just got hit by a 295 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 1: sledgehammer and uh a steam engine by the name of 296 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: Hello Di Nada and and Dangaire knocked his leg off 297 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: of his body. I've seen it with my own two eyes. 298 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 1: It was an injury. It was an injury that that 299 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 1: allowed for as you mentioned with Kyle Orton, it was 300 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 1: an injury that allowed for for Kirk Cousins to get 301 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: the opportunity to even play. It wasn't in the cards. 302 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: It wasn't. It wasn't set up for Kirk Cousins to 303 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 1: be a starter. He was going to be a backup 304 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: until he probably left in free agency and went somewhere 305 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: else after he was done in Washington. It just happened 306 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:18,439 Speaker 1: to be, you know, RG three injured his knee and 307 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: couldn't stay healthy after that. Like literally, he could not 308 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 1: stay healthy after he injured his knee in that in 309 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: that playoff game. So it was it was an opportunistic 310 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 1: moment for Kirk Cousins. Does that opportunity come forward for 311 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: Shador Sanders? It's it's to me if it plays out 312 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: where again, like Q isn't here to say it, but 313 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 1: we've said it enough. If one of these guys doesn't 314 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: get the starting job, are they really going to actually 315 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: ask to be released to go somewhere else? Like to me, 316 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: I don't see how that makes sense. If I'm Kenny Pickett, 317 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 1: if I'm on this roster and I'm set to be 318 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: a backup on this roster to an old ass Joe Flacco, am, 319 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,199 Speaker 1: why would I ask for Why would I ask for 320 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: a release to go somewhere else like, And what's the 321 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 1: guarantee that you're gonna get picked up by another team 322 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 1: that's gonna put you in a situation that could be 323 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: as advantageous as the one you're in right now? How 324 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 1: has that happened? So, if I'm Kenny Pickett, I'm not 325 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: asking for a release. I'm gonna I'm gonna play my 326 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 1: role as the backup until I get an opportunity. There's 327 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: two ways I can get on this field right now. 328 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: One Joe Flacco doesn't hold up. Two Joe Flacco doesn't 329 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: play well. That's how I can get on the field. 330 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna just buy my time. But as it 331 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: applies to the two rookies, I'm just I cannot I 332 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 1: cannot rest logic on the idea that a fifth rounder 333 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: is going to outperform and play and get enough time 334 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: and enough reps to outperform the third rounder. The third 335 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: rounder is going to be given the reps, the backup 336 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: is going to be given the reps, and the starter 337 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:27,360 Speaker 1: is going to get the lion's share of the reps. 338 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 1: So I don't see how the odd man out is 339 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: the fifth round pick. They're going to have to play 340 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 1: him because he's the oh he's he's the door Sanders, 341 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: and the situation is what it is, but it's it's 342 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: got to be considered a long shot for him to 343 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 1: be able to make this meteoric rise up the depth 344 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: chart to being the starting quarterback in Cleveland like that, 345 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: to me, it's a pipe dream if I'm being totally honest. 346 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 3: And if you just take a step back and look 347 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 3: at it, it all goes back to ground zero, which 348 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 3: is everybody's been put in a tough spot. So Kevin 349 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 3: Stefanski's been putting a tough spot, Joe Flacco has been 350 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 3: putt in a tough spot, Kenny Pickett's been putt in 351 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 3: a tough spot. Shardoor Sanders and Dylan Gabriel have been 352 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 3: putting a tough spot. And they've all been putt in 353 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 3: a tough spot because Deshaun Watson put everybody in a 354 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 3: tough spot. And it was Jimmy Haslam who put everybody 355 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 3: involved in the tough spot by making the move to 356 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 3: bring in to Shaun Watson and it failing completely from 357 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 3: the get go, like it just so now they're just 358 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 3: sort of scrambling to try and figure out what direction 359 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 3: to go and they've got a bunch of the same 360 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 3: thing all in the room, and everyone's looking around going, 361 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 3: uh okay, I guess this is how we're doing it. 362 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 3: It's just it's bizarre, man. 363 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: Really, If all this and that and the way things 364 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: have been handled leads to Shador Sanders starting as the 365 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: starar and quarterback of the Cleveland Browns, at face value, 366 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: it will be the biggest story in all of the NFL. 367 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: And good luck to him. Like it's a great situation 368 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 1: in the sense that if you're a fifth rounder, this 369 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: would be the situation I would want to be in. 370 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 1: Like you got an old man, you got a backup, unproven, 371 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: and he Shador probably feels like he's a better ballplayer 372 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: than Dylan Gabriel. So but Dylan Gabriel is a baller 373 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,199 Speaker 1: and maybe he's undersize, but the dude's a baller. He 374 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,959 Speaker 1: won the Big Ten, made it to the college playoffs, 375 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: Like was a successful quarterback in college. Like let's not 376 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 1: downplay Dylan Gabriel for the sake of, you know, trying 377 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: to hype up you know, Shador Sanders, Like, let's see 378 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 1: who wins the job. 379 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 3: It is two pros and a cup of Joe here 380 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,479 Speaker 3: on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you 381 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 3: coming up next here. Though somebody thinks they know, they 382 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 3: think they know why it is they made this decision 383 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 3: in the NFL. Unfortunately the decision was made for them. 384 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 3: We'll tell you who that is next. 385 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and 386 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,439 Speaker 2: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington and 387 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 2: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific 388 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 389 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 3: Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio, 390 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 3: LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here coming up about 391 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 3: fifteen minutes from now. It's conspiracy theory time on the show, 392 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 3: and it's involving somebody in the NFL that will be 393 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 3: yours here on FSR. So we've been talking about quarterback 394 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,479 Speaker 3: situations like the Cleveland Browns, which are a little bit 395 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 3: up in the air for everybody involved. One that may 396 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,439 Speaker 3: not be up in the air is the situation with 397 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 3: the Giants. It's still a very interesting quarterback room based 398 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 3: on what we've seen from a. 399 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 1: Very interesting quarterback. 400 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 3: I mean, you got a little bit of everything. 401 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,120 Speaker 1: Then that's the light right, and. 402 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:02,880 Speaker 3: You got got a little bit of everything. You got 403 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 3: Russell Wilson, You've got Jamis Winston who's always fun. You've 404 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 3: got Jackson Dart who was drafted there. You've got Tommy DeVito, 405 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 3: little Paison passion there still uh, you know, Tommy Cutlet. 406 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 3: Tommy Cutlets still going in New York with the Giants, 407 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 3: so for long, so he could be the odd man 408 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 3: Tobby Cutlet, all right, so cut and let go. Russell Wilson, 409 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 3: the uh presumed starter for the New York Giants, was 410 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 3: on the seven PM in Brooklyn podcast with Carmelo Anthony 411 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 3: and he listed various reasons as to why he liked 412 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 3: the Giants and the fit with the Giants. He talked 413 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 3: about the abilities of one Milik neighbors and also detailed. 414 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 5: Some other stuff here with daves Man, I'm excited because 415 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 5: of you know, his his offensive wizardry is really special, 416 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 5: you know, and so him. 417 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,199 Speaker 1: And Kafka, guy who played quarterback in the league, and 418 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: just the rest of the staff too. 419 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 5: Man. It's just people that I know and people that 420 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 5: I believe in, and I'm excited about the opportunity to 421 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 5: playing this great organization. You know, I don't mind the lights, 422 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 5: you know what I mean, I don't mind the I 423 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 5: don't mind that part of it. I think the other 424 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 5: part of for me. But most importantly though all of 425 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 5: all that is I've been here before. You know, when 426 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 5: you walk into a stadium into a locker room, and 427 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 5: you know, like, my locker is the same locker I 428 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,439 Speaker 5: had when I won the Super Bowl. And so for me, 429 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 5: when I see that, I'm like, when I walk into 430 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 5: that stadium, I'm like, I've been here before, like not 431 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,959 Speaker 5: just been here, but like like we did this before, 432 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 5: and so I fundally believe it's possible again in terms 433 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 5: of just being successful again and being at the highest level. 434 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: All right, So just confused? What is he talking about? 435 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 3: Well, because the super Bowl they won was at MetLife Okay, 436 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 3: So so they gave him the exact same locker that they 437 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 3: gave him when he played in the Super Bowl, I guess. 438 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know how that works. I mean 439 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,880 Speaker 3: where they considered the can you look this up where 440 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 3: the Seahawks considered the home team in that Super Bowl? 441 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,360 Speaker 1: They would have had to have been because if they 442 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: used their home because I didn't realize they used their 443 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: home locker rooms. But I guess that would make sense 444 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 1: because that's that's uh. I don't know because when I 445 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 1: played and they have a new facility, but when I 446 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: played in New York, our practice facility was connected to 447 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: you know where what what was the meadowlands? It was connected. 448 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: This is I'm just confused because to me, you have 449 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: multiple locker rooms. You have the game day locker room 450 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 1: and then you have your practice locker room in most cases, 451 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,199 Speaker 1: but New York had the same locker room when I 452 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: was there. 453 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 3: I confus I think I think he confused you because 454 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 3: Russell Wilson might have been caught in a little bit 455 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,639 Speaker 3: of a lie lee. Who is the home team in 456 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 3: that Super Bowl? 457 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 6: That would have been the Denver Broncos who were rocking 458 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 6: the orange jerseys while the Seahawks were in their alternate 459 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 6: white jerseys. 460 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 3: So how would the how would the Seahawks they got 461 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 3: the home locker room? Cause what because they each day 462 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 3: like they determined a home and away team for each 463 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 3: Super Bowl even though it's a neutral. So how would 464 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 3: Russell Wilson get the same locker if he's playing at 465 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 3: home now when he was a visitor in the Super Bowl? 466 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 3: Good question? 467 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 6: Well, it is it is MetLife, right, So, I mean 468 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 6: they do kind of have two home style locker rooms, 469 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 6: is that right? 470 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 1: Because of the he's a player on the team. Now 471 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: he's on the Giants, so he's in the Giants locker room. 472 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: So is he in the same exact locker room he 473 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 1: was He's basically he's saying he's in the same exact 474 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: locker room and locker that he was in when he 475 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: played for the Seattle Seahawks, which, by the way, even 476 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: giving that reasoning is still weird as hell because you 477 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 1: were on a different team. It's not like I've been 478 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: here before. I've been here before, Like bruh, you was 479 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: on a different team. 480 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 3: Well, I think, just so we're keeping score here on 481 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 3: the reasons why Russell Wilson liked the Giants as his 482 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 3: preferred team here, right, So Malik Neighbor's ability, Brian dave 483 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 3: Balls the head coach, and familiarity with the building because. 484 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: He won a Super Bowl there. There's also he's in 485 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: the same exact lockers yea. By his account. 486 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 3: There's also a fourth the fact that the Steelers didn't 487 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 3: want him. That's also reason why he's with the Giants. 488 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 1: Oh man, I mean I mean that's there, like that 489 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 1: is that is a part of it. 490 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 3: Because and here's the problem. You don't know what to 491 00:29:55,960 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 3: believe with the Russell Wilson stuff because like apparently he 492 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 3: wanted to stay in Pittsburgh. That was his preferred choice 493 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 3: was to stay in Pittsburgh. He liked Pittsburgh. But it 494 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 3: was really Arthur Smith and the Steelers who were like, 495 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 3: we're good here, like this. 496 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: Is and they don't even have a quarterback. 497 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 3: No, like like they basically they did it. They rolled 498 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 3: the dice on potentially Aaron Rodgers as opposed to the 499 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 3: guy who did want to stay there, which was Russell Wilson. 500 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 3: So like you know, like all these reasons for well 501 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 3: this is why you know I wanted this team and 502 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 3: I wanted to be here. Well no, like, like what 503 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 3: else was there? Really? 504 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: Dave Ball is on the hot seat as well. We're 505 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: talking about coaches on the hot seat. When we just 506 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 1: talked about Stefanski and we talked about the Pittsburgh Steelers day, 507 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 1: Ball is on the hot seat too. A lot of 508 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: people were surprised he made it through this year. So 509 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: you bring in Dark, it looks like they're high on 510 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: Jackson Dart so it looks like whoever is going to 511 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 1: be the starter, it's like you're there for a time 512 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 1: and you don't get much time into Big Apple, so 513 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:22,479 Speaker 1: you got Jamis. It's most certainly most likely going to 514 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: be Russell Wilson, which, by the way, I would not 515 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 1: be surprised if Jameis Winston beat Russell Wilson out before 516 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: the season started. I wouldn't be surprised. But Jackson Dart 517 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 1: is going to be the guy for this team. I mean, 518 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: the way they're positioning him media wise, the coverage of him, 519 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: you can clearly see that the commitment is going to 520 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 1: be invested in getting Jackson Dart prepared. So, for what 521 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 1: it's worth, if I'm giving an honest assessment and opinion 522 00:31:56,120 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 1: of it all, I think that whoever's starting is a 523 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 1: placeholder until Dark is up and ready to go and 524 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 1: they're confident and him going in as the starter. It's 525 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: just it's just a matter of time. 526 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 3: I did a little bit more digging on this Russell 527 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 3: Wilson locker situation to find out whether or not he 528 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 3: was spinning yarns Lee, Do you have any war on 529 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 3: this because I'm seeing that he apparently they're claiming it 530 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 3: is the same locker that he has. 531 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 6: Now, well, you know it is met Life. So the 532 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 6: Jets and Giants both have home lockers, their locker rooms. 533 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,719 Speaker 6: There's actually four total locker rooms at MetLife. 534 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Why would you put them in 535 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 1: the team's lockers. Why would unless that's their game day 536 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: locker room. 537 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 3: You know, it'd be sweet if they also gave Justin 538 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 3: Fields the same locker as Russell Wilson. 539 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 1: And he didn't know. They just said the Jets were like, yeah, 540 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 1: we'll give him the same locker too. Well, it can't 541 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: be the Jets. Can't the Jets had their own locker room. 542 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 3: You never know. 543 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 1: Apparently he's saying he was in the Giants' locker room. 544 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 6: I listen the whole well for the Super Well, he 545 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 6: might have been in the Giants while the while the 546 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 6: brothers in the Jets. 547 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: Might have been in the Jets. Yeah, I get it, 548 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 1: I mean I get it. I just when I played 549 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: for the Giants, our lockers were our lockers, meaning that 550 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 1: we didn't have a game day locker room and during 551 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 1: the week practice locker room. Does that make sense to y'all? Like, 552 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 1: does that? Like you have a practice facility and a 553 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 1: weight room facility. Like some people or some teams, they 554 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: have two different locker rooms. You had the game day 555 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 1: locker room that's in the stadium, and then you have 556 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: the facility where you train him, you practice and all that. 557 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: So okay, so we're clear. So what I'm saying is 558 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 1: is the New York Giants did not have two locker 559 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: rooms when I was there. They had one. And I 560 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 1: can't see how they would have had anybody go into 561 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: that locker room because that's where all everybody's stuff is. 562 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 1: So I don't know that that just seems strange. And 563 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 1: I mean maybe they cleared it out for the Super Bowl. 564 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 1: I don't know. 565 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 3: I'll be honestly, there's a lot of stuff that he 566 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:09,320 Speaker 3: says seems strange. 567 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,880 Speaker 1: I'm mad that that's the most interesting part of the 568 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: conversation about That's what's really upsetting. What's really upsetting he 569 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 1: is that and and you know what, it is the 570 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,359 Speaker 1: most interesting part of the conversation. But at this point 571 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:22,760 Speaker 1: I think we know what we're getting. 572 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, just you know, like this is probably it. If 573 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 3: it doesn't work here for for us, then I mean, you. 574 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: Know, I mean, he's good it's worked. Oh yeah, it's 575 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 1: it's all work. He's good. 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We'll get into that for 592 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 3: you here on FSR. So uh, Kyle Pitts, the tight 593 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 3: end for the Atlanta Falcons, is dealing with a little 594 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 3: bit of an issue and Raheem Morris, Raheem Morris. He 595 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 3: actually spoke about Kyle Pitts and not being available dealing 596 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:52,359 Speaker 3: with some sort of an undisclosed injury yesterday at OTAs. 597 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 7: Extremely cautious with Kyle right now and what's got going on. Obviously, 598 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 7: you know, talk about injuries this time of year, but 599 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 7: definitely being cautious with them so you won't see him. 600 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 7: He's been here, he's done such a great job of 601 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 7: all stuff that we've asked him. He's been in every 602 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 7: single meeting, He's been in every single thing that we've 603 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,880 Speaker 7: done other than the field, and he's been absolutely outstanding 604 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 7: to be around. 605 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting all of a sudden, an undisclosed injury 606 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 3: for Kyle Pitts, and then you look around and you go, gosh, 607 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,800 Speaker 3: sure are a lot of trade rumors involving Kyle Pitts 608 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 3: around the league. A guy who was drafted very high 609 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,720 Speaker 3: but just hasn't quite lived up, even though he's shown 610 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 3: flashes to his potential there in Atlanta. And I just wonder, 611 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 3: is this undisclosed injury that he's dealing with code for Well, 612 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:49,360 Speaker 3: we just don't want to get him hurt before we 613 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,760 Speaker 3: end up trading the guy and we're having conversations with people. 614 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:56,799 Speaker 3: Maybe he's got the Maybe this is the hyper extended 615 00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 3: trade bait. 616 00:36:58,600 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 1: Injury that's going on here. 617 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,319 Speaker 3: Maybe that's what it is, because I don't buy for 618 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 3: one second that Kyle Pitts has got some sort of 619 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,759 Speaker 3: an undisclosed injury. I think the Atlanta Falcons are trying 620 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 3: to make a deal and they're just keeping him out 621 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 3: of harm's way so they can execute this deal sooner. 622 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:19,440 Speaker 1: Rather than later. What do you think of that? Bar Uh, 623 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,760 Speaker 1: it's not a horrible it's not a horrible theory. 624 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 3: Can I get a little bit of an endorsement? 625 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 1: It's not a horrible theory. I'll say this full awareness. 626 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 1: His contract does run out this year, and I think 627 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:39,959 Speaker 1: that it's a matter of getting a contract extension done 628 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,959 Speaker 1: at the least an extension or a new contract deal 629 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 1: done before you start putting him out there. I think 630 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 1: it might be as simple as that. 631 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,319 Speaker 3: So you think it's more of an extension and not 632 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 3: it's a negotiation. 633 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 1: I mean, he's speaking very highly of him, and listen, 634 00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 1: Rahiem is a player's coach. To players love him. He's 635 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,400 Speaker 1: a relatable dude. So he's not going to say anything 636 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 1: crazy about Kyle Pitts unless it was really necessary. So 637 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 1: it could be a smoke screen to be able to 638 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 1: keep his value high and maybe see that a trade 639 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 1: suitor would would jump at it. I mean, there's certainly 640 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 1: people that could use him, there's teams that could use 641 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 1: use his services. But I think that he would be 642 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 1: one hundred percent valued as an Atlanta Falcon. And you know, 643 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,720 Speaker 1: he doesn't have a contract beyond this year. His contract 644 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,839 Speaker 1: runs out, so you think he's going to get a deal. 645 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 1: I think he's going to get a deal. His stick 646 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 1: sticks bam. 647 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 3: I think he's going to get traded. 648 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 1: I mean they picked line, they picked up his they 649 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 1: picked up his fifth year option in twenty four in April, 650 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,719 Speaker 1: they picked up his fifth year option. So I just 651 00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 1: you know, I think he's going to he wants a deal. 652 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 1: I think he'll read a deal. I think that that's 653 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,239 Speaker 1: what they're waiting on it. They'll have a deal done. 654 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,760 Speaker 3: By the way, one of the great fantasy football teases 655 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 3: of all time is Kyle Pitts. You just assume he's 656 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,399 Speaker 3: going to put up monster numbers, and for some reason 657 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,759 Speaker 3: it has not worked out. It is just not panned out. 658 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 3: The way everybody thought it was, so we'll keep you posted. 659 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,319 Speaker 3: But those are our picks, calling our shot and Kyle 660 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:19,720 Speaker 3: Pitts