Speaker 1: Hi, guys, Welcome to another episode of Diamonds in the
Speaker 1: Rough with myself, Teddy Mellencamp and.
Speaker 2: Hi, I'm Erica Jane.
Speaker 3: Well, if this doesn't perfectly sum up who we are
Speaker 3: at this moment, Erica is on Broadway and filming the
Speaker 3: pod from New York and I am in a camper
Speaker 3: in Palm Desert, So.
Speaker 2: Well, what are you doing there in the camper and
Speaker 2: Palm Desert.
Speaker 3: I am here at the camper because we are back
Speaker 3: at our first horse show of the year, and so yeah,
Speaker 3: and we're trying to you know, cut some coths do
Speaker 3: the things. Like it was. It was fine camper life.
Speaker 3: Night one was all right, except for the fact that
Speaker 3: Slay wanted to be in the primary room and I
Speaker 3: just loved on the buck. I was like, I am
Speaker 3: having flashbacks of my childhood. My dad's tour bus. That's
Speaker 3: a really junkie one.
Speaker 2: Not in the John Mellencamp tour bus.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: You know what, Uh, the horse world is is expensive.
Speaker 2: You know, it's an expensive and extensive world to live
Speaker 2: in and you know, be successful, and it's not for
Speaker 2: the faint of heart. How are you.
Speaker 3: I am? I'm good. You know, it's the crazy thing
Speaker 3: about you know, getting divorced and you know, I mean
Speaker 3: not that you're divorced, but this the ending of uh,
Speaker 3: you know, a relationship is just like the different stages
Speaker 3: of how you feel throughout time. Sure, and you know
Speaker 3: there's some days that are great and some days are
Speaker 3: little bit freakin' dicey, you know very much. So trying
Speaker 3: to communicate with somebody that you know was once you know,
Speaker 3: I'm a micromanager in general, so like, yeah, that has
Speaker 3: always been my thing, like our schedules, organizing things and
Speaker 3: having to like take that step back and realize, like, okay,
Speaker 3: that's actually no longer your job on the days that
Speaker 3: you're not with the kids is I mean, it's it's heartbreaking,
Speaker 3: but it's also like, Okay, this is what it feels
Speaker 3: like to like go with the flow. I've never I
Speaker 3: don't know in my life, I've ever gone with the flow.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, and I don't like that either, going with
Speaker 2: the flow. But I've surrendered to that moment of just
Speaker 2: sort of you know, I don't know what's coming next,
Speaker 2: and I can't predict it, and I'm out here on
Speaker 2: my own two feet, which is great. Like I'm not
Speaker 2: bitching but there are moments where I'm like, oh shit,
Speaker 2: you know what is going on? What do you do
Speaker 2: on your days if you're not with the kids.
Speaker 3: So I mean I pod every day, so like I'm
Speaker 3: always working. And then now I'm it's it sounds crazy,
Speaker 3: but like I've gone on a couple of dates.
Speaker 2: Yes, fucker, I don't even go on dates.
Speaker 3: Well, you want to hear the crazy thing.
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to get these dates. Wait, how are
Speaker 2: you getting these dates?
Speaker 3: Well, so this is pretty crazy. So I signed up
Speaker 3: for Hinge and I was like, this is a freaking joke,
Speaker 3: Like why are only twenty eight year olds reaching out
Speaker 3: to me? Like why? And then I realized it's because
Speaker 3: I had my age down too low. But I was like, clearly,
Speaker 3: I don't need to be dating a twenty eight year old.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm they're hot, but like I don't. I
Speaker 3: don't need it. And plus I can't really figure out
Speaker 3: Hinge because I'm too old. I don't know what a
Speaker 3: rose means versus a heart, Like I don't know. But
Speaker 3: there was somebody who messaged me and just was like
Speaker 3: complimented one of the photos and it was weird. I
Speaker 3: like recognized his face, like I was like I know
Speaker 3: him and where well this is the crazy part. So
Speaker 3: like I let it sit for like a couple of days.
Speaker 3: I was like, no need to respond to the rose
Speaker 3: or whatever I got. And then because he didn't say anything,
Speaker 3: he just hard like rosed it. So I was like,
Speaker 3: maybe I don't know, maybe I'm going crazier, maybe he's
Speaker 3: an actor. I don't know what the hell it is.
Speaker 3: And then the other day I just messaged and I
Speaker 3: was like, by any chance did I meet you in
Speaker 3: like nineteen ninety nine? Are you friends with the following people?
Speaker 3: And he's like, yes, Teddy, I was wondering if you
Speaker 3: were going to remember.
Speaker 2: Me nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 3: Yes, I was nineteen when I first came out to LA,
Speaker 3: but I recognized his face. But I sae and he's
Speaker 3: like and then he's like, yes, Teddy, I you know,
Speaker 3: I was just waiting to see if you.
Speaker 2: Remember so you guys went out, yeah, And well.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know. It's more about like the
Speaker 3: conversations leading to going out all those But.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that, like you know what I'm just
Speaker 2: saying like is it nice to be out and like
Speaker 2: having a conversation, you know, like being I don't know,
Speaker 2: friendly or something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well he particularly I have not gone out with
Speaker 3: yet because talking and having conversation and it's that weird
Speaker 3: like who knows. But it's been so long that I'm like,
Speaker 3: I don't even know, like do people flirt or like
Speaker 3: play games? Like what what happens around you?
Speaker 2: You are looking at the wrong person to I don't
Speaker 2: know anything.
Speaker 3: But before we get into your dating sage, how's Broadway?
Speaker 2: There is no dating sage. Broadways fabulous. I got a
Speaker 2: standing elevation in my opening night. I standing elevation my
Speaker 2: second night. It's great. I'm having fun. You know, there's
Speaker 2: such a community here at Chicago, the musical Everybody there's
Speaker 2: just really special and nice. And I needed something relaxing
Speaker 2: like Broadway, you know, to come and do I love it?
Speaker 3: Are any of the same people that were on the
Speaker 3: show still Yes, So that's gotten more comforting.
Speaker 2: It is because you get to share the stage with them,
Speaker 2: they and they you know, I did it eighty times.
Speaker 2: But that was five years ago. So we were hurting,
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that was five years ago. Yes, you
Speaker 2: were pregnant, getting older?
Speaker 3: We how has that been five years? In my mind,
Speaker 3: I was like, that was two years ago.
Speaker 2: By the way. But by the way, these five years
Speaker 2: for you and me have been horrible. Not like think
Speaker 2: about just think think about, just think about from December
Speaker 2: twenty twenty till January twenty twenty five, I mean or January.
Speaker 2: I was with January twe I mean, it has been
Speaker 2: a rough five years for both of us. Look at
Speaker 2: how much our lives have changed, I mean just personal things.
Speaker 2: So yeah, but Broadway's great. I'm having a great time.
Speaker 3: And you're there three more weeks, Yeah, February eleven, three
Speaker 3: more February eleventh. Well, I'm so excited for you. That
Speaker 3: is awesome. We took some listeners feedback, and something that
Speaker 3: a lot of the listeners wanted to hear us talk
Speaker 3: about is sex. Something that's so interesting. I mean, Erica knows.
Speaker 3: Like when I first met Erica, I wouldn't even say
Speaker 3: the word orgasm. I would say, oh.
Speaker 2: She was very you were very very conservative.
Speaker 3: Like beyond.
Speaker 2: So I little like, come on, you were a little stiff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was very very stiff. So the fact that
Speaker 3: we're doing this podcast, I'm talking about sex is definitely
Speaker 3: out of my comfort zone, especially because we're doing it
Speaker 3: at ten am. I couldn't even have a glass of
Speaker 3: Champce to like loosen myself up. I was like, oh shit,
Speaker 3: this is going to be.
Speaker 2: A dude, this is going to be hey, but you
Speaker 2: know what, sex is an important part of your life,
Speaker 2: our lives as women, and you know, life goes on
Speaker 2: and I need to be having more.
Speaker 3: When was the last time you had sex?
Speaker 2: Maybe a few weeks ago, maybe a month ago. But
Speaker 2: I don't really.
Speaker 3: Hold on if you haven't mentioned anything to me about
Speaker 3: such things.
Speaker 2: Because it's not that important. Oh if it was something
Speaker 2: that was important, i'd be like, hey, get into this,
Speaker 2: but it's nothing to report, so I could say, like
Speaker 2: a month ago, yeah, but I have not been focused.
Speaker 2: But wait, I want to give myself a little bit
Speaker 2: of moment here. I've not been focused because I on that,
Speaker 2: because I've been focused on getting this show together, and
Speaker 2: that is like all confuting. But now that I'm here
Speaker 2: and I've just done it a few times, and you
Speaker 2: know what, when I saw Andy for WA's What Happens
Speaker 2: Live last week, he was telling me, He's like, Erica,
Speaker 2: you have to get on the apps. I was like,
Speaker 2: are you sure? He was like yes, I'm telling you
Speaker 2: now that you're on, maybe I should get on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I'm on Hinge.
Speaker 2: That's what Laya was on and she Ray won't let
Speaker 2: me on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they didn't let me on either.
Speaker 2: I think it's a housewives.
Speaker 3: Think I'm on Hinge, And I mean it's the other
Speaker 3: night we were I went to dinner with Kyle and
Speaker 3: we spent you know, forty five minutes going through the
Speaker 3: people that have hearted or a rosed me and we
Speaker 3: just freaking laughed and like pressed X like no, no, no.
Speaker 3: I mean it's it's a lot of no's. It's like
Speaker 3: being an actor. You're going to get a lot of no's.
Speaker 3: You're gonna have to say a lot of no's before
Speaker 3: we get that. Yes, but I.
Speaker 2: Think that's a cool thing. I mean, what did you do?
Speaker 2: Did you take? What pictures? Did you I don't even know.
Speaker 2: Maybe I should download.
Speaker 3: This thing, so yeah, I think you should do it.
Speaker 3: I mean my profile, let me let me read it.
Speaker 3: I mean I didn't take it very seriously on my
Speaker 3: profile because I was like, I'm not I'm not taking
Speaker 3: this app very seriously.
Speaker 2: Hinge Dating app Match to install Hinge. If you're listening,
Speaker 2: send us something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, whatever, what do they make us? Yeah, like make us.
Speaker 3: Some people are verified Hinge users. I'm not. I don't
Speaker 3: know how to become one. I don't know what that means,
Speaker 3: but it is me.
Speaker 2: What is my phone number? I'm doing it right now,
Speaker 2: go ahead, good.
Speaker 3: But what I have learned is that quickly once you're
Speaker 3: on Hinge, they want to transition right out of Hinge.
Speaker 3: Like they're like, hey, because you can with Hinge, you respond,
Speaker 3: then they respond like there's no like double messaging if
Speaker 3: you forgot to say something or you did a typo.
Speaker 3: So the couple of people I have spoken to on
Speaker 3: hinge immediately or like can I get your phone number?
Speaker 3: Or can we talk on Instagram? Because this isn't pain
Speaker 3: in the ass? Oh okay, yeah, so it's like it's
Speaker 3: not you know whatever, it's slightly Yeah, I just I
Speaker 3: got to introduduce to what do you put up pictures
Speaker 3: and stuff? Yeah, you have to put up pictures and
Speaker 3: then what Hinge does. So I put up like five
Speaker 3: pictures a couple I'm like glammed out, and then a
Speaker 3: couple like ones of me riding horses, and then ones
Speaker 3: of me like no makeup, looking like like here's the range,
Speaker 3: like this is this is me. You're either going to
Speaker 3: get this, or you're gonna get this yeah, or I'm
Speaker 3: going to be riding a horse like this. These are
Speaker 3: the options. There's no real middle ground for me. And
Speaker 3: then hiinge sees which one of those pictures is liked
Speaker 3: the most and then makes that your primary photo.
Speaker 2: Okay, I know, Okay, so.
Speaker 3: My primary photos changed a couple of times, but either way,
Speaker 3: it's it's been a nice distraction.
Speaker 2: What kind of men are are are messaging you?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: Are they professionals or are they I don't know? Like
Speaker 2: what are you getting? Like you say, like your age
Speaker 2: range or something or yeah.
Speaker 3: You put your age range. You can see like what
Speaker 3: they do, so like they're I mean, I don't really care.
Speaker 3: As long as somebody is like passionate about what they're
Speaker 3: doing and like has a regular job and whatever, then
Speaker 3: I don't really care. I would have to go in
Speaker 3: a couple of days to decide that. But uh, I
Speaker 3: mean I don't want to date an actor. I don't
Speaker 3: want to like, uh, but somebody in entertain I don't mind. Also,
Speaker 3: like location, like there's some people that are just locationally
Speaker 3: undesirable to me.
Speaker 2: Well, this friend of mine said on Riah that he
Speaker 2: matched with some guy in Istanbul. I was like, we
Speaker 2: live in La, Like what the cook is that? Like?
Speaker 2: Why is that? That's not a match at all? What
Speaker 2: are we going to know? I like five continents to
Speaker 2: go on a date.
Speaker 3: No, I did my mileage range within thirty miles, which
Speaker 3: I still think is too far, because you know that
Speaker 3: even thirty miles in LA means we're probably going to
Speaker 3: like Manhattan Beach, and I ain't going there.
Speaker 2: No, I'm not.
Speaker 3: Manhattan Beach is lovely, but I'm not doing it. But yeah,
Speaker 3: so it's interesting and you know, who knows what will
Speaker 3: come of it. And but I think on those nights
Speaker 3: that I am alone, it's nice to talk to people
Speaker 3: that I think it's nice.
Speaker 2: To flirt, right, and it's nice that it's nice to
Speaker 2: flirt and get a conversation going or whatever.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean I haven't gone on very many dates,
Speaker 3: but I've gone on, you know, one from Hinge, one
Speaker 3: not from Hinge. And I mean it's weird. You know,
Speaker 3: you don't really I don't even know the freaking rules anymore.
Speaker 2: Do you feel awkward? Because I would feel really like
Speaker 2: a I don't know.
Speaker 3: I feel one, there's like that moment of anxiety like
Speaker 3: that I said to both the guys that I've gone
Speaker 3: out with. Listen, I know this is like because I
Speaker 3: don't want to make it like bragging, but I'm like,
Speaker 3: just as a heads up, if you're eating dinner with me,
Speaker 3: there is a chance that paparazzi is going to take.
Speaker 2: A picture right now and they kind of know that
Speaker 2: you who you were before maybe like this, I mean,
Speaker 2: do you say that you do like.
Speaker 3: When I say that I'm a podcast host and TV personality.
Speaker 2: And that's pretty much gonna yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So but before I've gone out with the two people,
Speaker 3: I just said, as a heads up, I'm not my
Speaker 3: reputation isn't the best right now, and pop parazzi are
Speaker 3: pretty on me. So if you're not comfortable with a
Speaker 3: shot that you that may or may not be taken.
Speaker 3: Not that I'm doing anything physical with these people, but
Speaker 3: I said, then we should not meet up. And what
Speaker 3: we could thought both of them are like I don't
Speaker 3: give a fuck, like whatever, but they're not they're not
Speaker 3: reality like it's it's a very different and and and
Speaker 3: that being said, both of them pictures weren't taken yet.
Speaker 3: The other day, I'm at freaking Lakinitta eating with Morgan
Speaker 3: and Kyle and our friend Nicole. I look like their
Speaker 3: freaking bodyguard wandering around and there's a million pap parazzi
Speaker 3: pictures and I'm.
Speaker 2: Like that off, I haven't seen those. I've been in
Speaker 2: a bubble over here. I need to like take a
Speaker 2: look around. Hi.
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Speaker 3: Okay, so, Erica, if now that we're getting you signed
Speaker 3: up for Hene or Lias getting you signed up for
Speaker 3: hend right now, what photos are you going to put
Speaker 3: on that? Well, then what's going to be your age range?
Speaker 2: Well, for the age range, I can understand. That's easy.
Speaker 2: It's my age and younger. It's not. You know, I
Speaker 2: don't want to date anybody.
Speaker 3: But how young would you go?
Speaker 2: Maybe thirty? I mean, because I'm not looking for anything
Speaker 2: that's serious. I want to just have fun and meet
Speaker 2: different people. I've been married all of my adult life.
Speaker 2: I'm really okay not doing something like that, but having
Speaker 2: a good time meeting interesting people or having good conversations
Speaker 2: or doing fun things. Sure, thirty maybe too young to like,
Speaker 2: you know, know, anything, but probably really good. So that's
Speaker 2: how I kind of look at it. Yeah, yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: I can last a long time. But that's important for me.
Speaker 3: So is it lasting a long time or knowing what
Speaker 3: they need to do in that time frame?
Speaker 2: Well, I can teach, but I don't want to. But
Speaker 2: sometimes there's some savvy thirty year olds. Yeah, m you know,
Speaker 2: sometimes there are some savvy thirty year olds. I don't
Speaker 2: know that I could do the twenties thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I don't love that I could be
Speaker 3: reaching out to me or like the twenty eight range.
Speaker 2: Yeah, i'd do that. I'd be like, I don't think
Speaker 2: you'd want I mean, I know what you're after. That's cool,
Speaker 2: but I don't know if I'm after that too.
Speaker 3: But also I'm like, I have a jillion children and
Speaker 3: I'm available on Tuesdays.
Speaker 2: Like, well, maybe I don't know that i'm but they don't.
Speaker 2: They don't. Yeah, but that's you know, aren't they're not
Speaker 2: available either?
Speaker 3: Yeah? So who knows?
Speaker 2: Do you? How do you? Yeah? I think what my
Speaker 2: thing is is that what is my name? Oh, it's
Speaker 2: already asking me my name? No background checks are conducted,
Speaker 2: which was going to be my next question.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Now what.
Speaker 2: Name should I use? My last name? Should I use
Speaker 2: my name? What? What? What name did you use?
Speaker 3: I used Teddy Mellencown. I just went with my name,
Speaker 3: and but I could easily. It's effortless to tell if
Speaker 3: somebody is like a starfucker, like they're trying. Like one
Speaker 3: guy's like, so, I'm like, I know, you could just
Speaker 3: google me. You saw that it says TV personality and
Speaker 3: podcast hosts like, but he's like, so what television shows?
Speaker 3: Like every question he's asked was related to what I do,
Speaker 3: and I was like, well that's a note for me,
Speaker 3: you know, Like I after the third question, I was like,
Speaker 3: he's like, so when do you want to meet up?
Speaker 3: And I just put I didn't even I was like,
Speaker 3: you know what, I don't even need to respond. I
Speaker 3: can just X and then he can't write me anymore.
Speaker 3: It's so easy, Like it's very clear, Nope, not interested.
Speaker 2: R I k A.
Speaker 3: I think you could do Erica Jane. I guess right, yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean it feels right Erica Girardi doesn't. I mean,
Speaker 3: then you get into a different level of googling.
Speaker 2: It's all bad either way, it's all bad. You think
Speaker 2: you're bad. Your way to sign it, and I'm gonna continue
Speaker 2: this way.
Speaker 3: Yeah right, you're gonna I'm gonna hold you accountable to
Speaker 3: this now you're not, yes, I am no. Do you
Speaker 3: realize the joy and happiness that Kyle felt the other
Speaker 3: day when we were out going through my hinge and
Speaker 3: then one of the guys messaged and was like, hey,
Speaker 3: can we talk And I was like, I'm with a
Speaker 3: bunch of friends, but you're welcome to FaceTime us. And
Speaker 3: he did and we were all like crying, laughing, and
Speaker 3: he looked like the age of like I could have
Speaker 3: birthed him myself.
Speaker 2: I was like, so, what do you like?
Speaker 3: I was like, what what's up? And He's like, snow
Speaker 3: to la and you looked hot and I want to
Speaker 3: have some fun and like Kyle and I are like
Speaker 3: tears are coming out of our eyes. And then he's like,
Speaker 3: you know, just saying stuff like you know. In order
Speaker 3: to talk to you, I had to get out of
Speaker 3: bed and I put some clothes on and I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: oh god.
Speaker 2: I can't see Teddy. I'm just too jaded. I'd be like,
Speaker 2: you know what, I can't, please don't do this. I
Speaker 2: guess when put.
Speaker 3: On a tank top, I was like, this isn't going
Speaker 3: to be a Now after this informational face time with Kyle,
Speaker 3: and Jen and Christine.
Speaker 2: But well, when when Liah was on Hinge years ago,
Speaker 2: she would let me answer for her right, so I
Speaker 2: would be Liah. I got us kipped off because I
Speaker 2: may or may not have said that were appropriate. I
Speaker 2: don't know. I don't think. Yes, I don't know if
Speaker 2: my my online career is going to be that great.
Speaker 3: Well, no, we're going to make it great. Maybe we
Speaker 3: can find Hinge friends. We're going to bring on a
Speaker 3: sex therapist and talk to her a little bit, and
Speaker 3: then we're going to get in and talk about like
Speaker 3: the real shit that this is more about, like hormones,
Speaker 3: how it changes as we you know, are you know,
Speaker 3: we don't like to say getting older, but as our
Speaker 3: bodies change, those types of.
Speaker 2: Things, desires change.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, okay, So we're going to bring on her.
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Speaker 3: I'm so good at pillow talk.
Speaker 2: I'm the nastiest pillow talker, the nastiest.
Speaker 3: Technic, so nasty I can do. Pillow talk to me
Speaker 3: is like dainty and like like like I'm not like
Speaker 3: I'm fine to be the little spoon and like be
Speaker 3: held tight and like really feel it. But like I'm
Speaker 3: not like a light caressing type of person.
Speaker 2: I can do it, are you? I can do it all?
Speaker 3: A fucking course you can. You know what, just because
Speaker 3: you're gonna be on hinge now and you want to
Speaker 3: take all my dates, it's a little bit.
Speaker 2: I don't think we're going to be in the same pool.
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Speaker 2: No, I don't think he liked the same thing.
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Speaker 5: it takes you through what used to be an in
Speaker 5: office exercise.
Speaker 6: For me, with my clients, I would take them like,
Speaker 6: detail by detail. What do you smell, what do you hear?
Speaker 6: What do you see?
Speaker 5: All of that Now I've digitized it, so any moment
Speaker 5: of the day or an evening, you can go on
Speaker 5: create your own fantasy and it spits out an erotic
Speaker 5: story that's all your own. And the process of doing
Speaker 5: this has absolutely opened women's minds in general, but men too.
Speaker 6: I have a lot of partners that are doing this
Speaker 6: in mind.
Speaker 2: I just don't want to ask you this. What do
Speaker 2: you find is the biggest thing holding women back from
Speaker 2: doing something like this, from having like a fantasy.
Speaker 5: K A lot of women are stuck in this idea
Speaker 5: of where where am I supposed to find the time
Speaker 5: or the energy?
Speaker 6: And when is it okay to have sexy thoughts?
Speaker 5: Is it only during sex For a lot of women, yes,
Speaker 5: that's when they think they should That's the only time
Speaker 5: they should be thinking about sex is in the sex act.
Speaker 6: You need to be stroking.
Speaker 5: That organ all day long in order to feel ready
Speaker 5: to actually be physical, either with yourself or with someone else.
Speaker 6: Think about the fact that women often take twenty.
Speaker 5: Minutes longer than men to reach the same level of
Speaker 5: pleasure or even orgasm. If you're waiting until you're in
Speaker 5: the moment, imagine how far behind.
Speaker 6: You might feel.
Speaker 5: So and I think that one of the reasons that
Speaker 5: men do this pretty well and I think they're ahead
Speaker 5: of us, is that they allow sexy thoughts to come
Speaker 5: in and they don't immediately go oh my gosh, no,
Speaker 5: oh my gosh, no, get away, no, no, this is not
Speaker 5: the time, wait what like, you know, and for a
Speaker 5: lot of women, I think we just really struggle with that.
Speaker 5: So this kind of gives you the the arena. But
Speaker 5: even if you're even if you have five.
Speaker 6: Minutes and you're waiting for your uber or just take.
Speaker 5: The time to do this because you can always respond,
Speaker 5: you know, you can always go back and actually read it.
Speaker 5: But allow those sexy thoughts and ladies, it does wonders
Speaker 5: for your sex drive, and it'll get you a little
Speaker 5: bit more revved long beyond, you know, long before you
Speaker 5: go into anything sexy with someone else. The other thing
Speaker 5: that I would tell you is, if you're in a relationship,
Speaker 5: you need to have more pillow talk. Now, pillow talk
Speaker 5: for me is an underlying sensual current, and that is
Speaker 5: the touching, the laughing, the joking, the teasing, all the
Speaker 5: things that happen when you're nowhere near a sex act,
Speaker 5: but you're just playful in that way. If you can
Speaker 5: continue to have that in your relationship, sex won't feel
Speaker 5: like you're going from cold to hot from awesome on.
Speaker 5: It won't be like this thing that you're jumping in
Speaker 5: and out of like so many people say.
Speaker 2: Teddy says she doesn't like pillow talk, but I do,
Speaker 2: and I think that it's a real skill. And I
Speaker 2: think Teddy, like, the more you do it, the more
Speaker 2: you're like, you don't think I.
Speaker 3: Know what it until you just kind of explained it.
Speaker 3: I didn't really know what pillow talk was. Like, it's
Speaker 3: not like.
Speaker 5: You're right, pillow talk is what used to happen when
Speaker 5: you were like maybe postcoital.
Speaker 3: And yeah, I don't like that.
Speaker 5: Like it's like, you know, let's talk and share sweet
Speaker 5: nothings and talk about what just happened. People don't do
Speaker 5: that and and I'm not saying you shouldn't, but thank you.
Speaker 3: Okay, let's hear it. What do you talk about, Erica?
Speaker 6: What are you about?
Speaker 2: Listen? I will talk to you about what I felt
Speaker 2: felt good? What how I like the way you touched me,
Speaker 2: or you know, part of your body feels really good
Speaker 2: to me, or this was amazing that. Oh yeah, like
Speaker 2: I'm really into all of that. I'll give you the
Speaker 2: full rundown.
Speaker 6: Okay. And what happens when it's not so great? Do
Speaker 6: you also do that? Or is that another time.
Speaker 2: You're just not that when it's not that great, I
Speaker 2: won't even get to that. Does that make sense? Like
Speaker 2: I only do that with people number one? I feel
Speaker 2: really comfortable with number two that I've had a nice
Speaker 2: time with. Like that is something that to me is
Speaker 2: almost it's going to sound crazy, almost more intimate than
Speaker 2: the actual sec that's sex act itself, because if I'm
Speaker 2: being vulnerable with you and telling you the things that
Speaker 2: I liked and what I want to see more of,
Speaker 2: that means I enjoyed myself. I had a good time.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so a lot of people are not giving each
Speaker 5: other that feedback. I'm so happy for you that you
Speaker 5: do and I think it's it's a great thing. I
Speaker 5: often recommend that people give feedback.
Speaker 6: Outside of the sexual experience.
Speaker 5: That way, it doesn't feel like so raw and you're
Speaker 5: not so sensitive whether it's good or bad.
Speaker 6: But yes, absolutely do your thing.
Speaker 5: But my pillow talk, and actually I'm writing a book
Speaker 5: about it right now, is really trying to help people
Speaker 5: to have have the ability to say, you know, I
Speaker 5: want you because I show you.
Speaker 6: And it's not just during sex.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I really like someone, Like I have a long,
Speaker 2: like daily communication, like long sort of sensual lead up
Speaker 2: to like seeing them, like I'm that's who I am.
Speaker 3: I'm like the seduction. The seduction is all I'll.
Speaker 2: Do it just four hours a day, Like that's how
Speaker 2: my brain works, and that's what I do. Like, I'm
Speaker 2: on it. If I'm in if I like someone and
Speaker 2: I'm really in that space, nothing stops me from that.
Speaker 6: Okay.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 3: And I'm so new to it, which sounds crazy because
Speaker 3: I've been married for agion years, but I'm so new
Speaker 3: to being single and kind of exploring this other side
Speaker 3: of me because you know, I think, and this isn't
Speaker 3: too shade my ex or anything like that, but it
Speaker 3: really when you have a bunch of little kids and
Speaker 3: you're you know, you're going through the motions. It almost
Speaker 3: feels like you know your business partners. You're like, all right,
Speaker 3: we're gonna go in, we're gonna do this, we're gonna
Speaker 3: handle it, and then here we go. We wrapped it
Speaker 3: up and good we we we had sex a couple
Speaker 3: times this week, and so we're nailing it well.
Speaker 5: I actually have a quiz that'll help you to figure
Speaker 5: out how to do this better, how to have more
Speaker 5: pillow talk in both a physical ineverbal way, and it's
Speaker 5: pillowtop quiz dot Com and Teddy. I definitely want you
Speaker 5: to take it because I think you'll find that you'll
Speaker 5: be able to recognize like, oh, going forward, I really
Speaker 5: should be more mindful of this or know how this
Speaker 5: comes across, or because you're you. What you're describing is
Speaker 5: so many people out there where it's like, look, I
Speaker 5: love scheduling sex because I'm a busy woman.
Speaker 6: But most people don't want to schedule because they feel like, oh,
Speaker 6: it's too much of checking off the box. If you
Speaker 6: have pillow talk, if.
Speaker 5: You have more pillow talk in your relationship, it doesn't
Speaker 5: feel like you're checking something off. It feels like you're like, oh,
Speaker 5: this is this is part of the fabric of what
Speaker 5: we've done, and it doesn't feel so random, and it
Speaker 5: doesn't feel so pressure.
Speaker 6: You know, so much pressure and forced. Just beware of
Speaker 6: these things. So many people I wish I could. I
Speaker 6: do a lot of premarital counseling.
Speaker 5: I actually started a program when I first started my
Speaker 5: practice back in two thousand and eight because I was like,
Speaker 5: oh my gosh, if people just knew these things at
Speaker 5: the beginning of their relationships, they might not be coming
Speaker 5: in with the at the end of their relationship. So
Speaker 5: being aware of this and like being a I guess
Speaker 5: a consumer of relationship education, I feel like we don't
Speaker 5: do enough of that.
Speaker 3: If you are in a place and I mean I
Speaker 3: get the you know, the other things that you've discussed,
Speaker 3: but if you're in a place where all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: you're want you're feeling this urge, or you're feeling like
Speaker 3: these different feelings that you haven't felt before, how do
Speaker 3: you give yourself the confidence to like express those feelings
Speaker 3: to you know? I think I think so much of
Speaker 3: my life, you know, when I was younger and then
Speaker 3: kind of throughout different relationships up until getting married, you know,
Speaker 3: like sex was like a forbidden thing and like showing
Speaker 3: who I was or what I enjoyed, like I never
Speaker 3: felt kind of comfortable doing that. So like I get
Speaker 3: the other part, but like, how do you get yourself
Speaker 3: to actually follow through with those types of things.
Speaker 5: Well, I think one of the first things that you
Speaker 5: can do is first be sure that you understand what
Speaker 5: it is that the big deal is. So if you
Speaker 5: if you haven't been experiencing pleasure on your own or
Speaker 5: with your partner, I would say tapping into that and
Speaker 5: really taking some time to learn how to experience pleasure
Speaker 5: and learn how to give yourself pleasure because for a
Speaker 5: lot of peop people.
Speaker 6: They especially women, we won't go.
Speaker 5: After it because we don't really know what that it
Speaker 5: is and we don't feel confident that we know what
Speaker 5: that is. It's like, you know, I don't get that
Speaker 5: sense from erics, so I'm not going to talk to
Speaker 5: her right now, but yeah, everyone else, you know, really
Speaker 5: trying to figure out what makes you feel your most,
Speaker 5: if it's your feminine energy, if it's your masculine energy,
Speaker 5: whatever it is, whatever makes you just feel like that release,
Speaker 5: that sense of giving, that bonding, the responsibleness, the four
Speaker 5: intimacy styles, like all of that. I think once you
Speaker 5: know that, you're going to be much more confident saying
Speaker 5: hey and let me teach you.
Speaker 2: And let me learn too. I think also too, there's
Speaker 2: something to you know, good girls or you know whatever.
Speaker 2: You weren't really raised. We're raised with somewhat of a gurgirls,
Speaker 2: don't you know, like sex. There's all of these different
Speaker 2: things around women feeling comfortable in their own skin and
Speaker 2: give yourself permission to just either know your body or
Speaker 2: to get to just feel comfortable in an intimate situation.
Speaker 2: I think that's half the battle, right, That's half the battle.
Speaker 5: And I also think that it's one of the things
Speaker 5: that creates long term relationships. Sure, if you are just
Speaker 5: wanting to hook up, you don't really need to care
Speaker 5: about what's going on for the other person and you're
Speaker 5: just getting through it.
Speaker 6: But if you're wanting to be in a long term relationship, this.
Speaker 5: Is a key factor. Having lasting physical intimacy is a
Speaker 5: key factor in doing that, and it's a part of
Speaker 5: the investment that goes into long term relationships. And anyone
Speaker 5: that tells you otherwise is misguided, right, They're just they're
Speaker 5: missing point.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: That's I think the last time we spoke, we talked
Speaker 5: about my book before Intimacy Styles, and it's all about
Speaker 5: helping people to understand how to have long term, lasting
Speaker 5: physical intimacy. Because again, if you want to get out
Speaker 5: there and date and you want to have you know,
Speaker 5: one night stands, and you want to have quickies and
Speaker 5: you want to try different things, awesome, all for you,
Speaker 5: for you.
Speaker 6: But going into that long term.
Speaker 5: Is where people really struggle because there's this kind of
Speaker 5: like disconnect connect, disconnect, connect and trying to figure that out.
Speaker 5: As you know, people who've really a lot of people
Speaker 5: have really gone into this monogamy mindset. If it's not
Speaker 5: easy monogamy a E and having kids and having businesses,
Speaker 5: multiple businesses and travel and all of that, it's not
Speaker 5: easy to keep that connection. So it's really important that
Speaker 5: you look into it and really study that with your partner.
Speaker 3: Well, thank you so much for coming on you guys.
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Speaker 3: Okay, Eric, and I need to ask you a question.
Speaker 3: Don't get mad at me. I'm not How was sex
Speaker 3: with Tom.
Speaker 2: Very fifties, very nineteen fifties, very very very sweet, very
Speaker 2: sort of non adventurous.
Speaker 3: Okay, so like it? But were you always on top
Speaker 3: or were you always on bottom?
Speaker 2: It switched around? But my point is this, there was
Speaker 2: not There's a different it was a different relationship like
Speaker 2: that sexual relationship was not something.
Speaker 3: That was at the height of the entire thing, right,
Speaker 3: was it at the beginning?
Speaker 2: I think we definitely have more sex at the beginning
Speaker 2: than we did at the end, for sure. I mean,
Speaker 2: but it was twenty years you know, I mean, you
Speaker 2: know he had undergone a lot of changes.
Speaker 3: And what is your like and you can grill me too,
Speaker 3: So whatever, But what are your like kinks or fetishes
Speaker 3: or like, what's your thing? What's like the one thing
Speaker 3: that's going to like really make it happen for you.
Speaker 2: I had a lot of group fantasies group, yeah.
Speaker 3: With involving more than one man, or involving women with
Speaker 3: one man more than one man. Have you ever had one?
Speaker 2: No, but you asked me what what you asked me?
Speaker 3: What was going on?
Speaker 2: What's going on in yours?
Speaker 3: So something for me, it's I'm like very like I
Speaker 3: don't know what the word be, like tactileic. For me,
Speaker 3: there's like it's it's smell, it's voice, it's like.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 3: But if you have those things, then I will show
Speaker 3: more of myself to you. And I like to be dominated.
Speaker 2: You think to be dominated?
Speaker 3: Yet, Yeah, I think I'm such an alpha and so
Speaker 3: many aspects in my life, like I'm not super into
Speaker 3: wanting to have like soft, cuddly sex.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hear a little for you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a little bit. I mean, there it can be.
Speaker 2: But you never had me I had. Have you ever
Speaker 2: had multiple partners at one time?
Speaker 3: I haven't. I've never had a threesome Edwin. Back in
Speaker 3: the day, me and Edwin, this is pretty kids and stuff.
Speaker 3: We were can considering it, Like we found like there
Speaker 3: was somebody we both thought was attractive, that we were
Speaker 3: all flirting. We were in Vegas, and then like at
Speaker 3: the end of the day we just kind of looked
Speaker 3: at each other and I was like, I don't I
Speaker 3: think this is going to be a bad idea ultimately.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I can say things like what I
Speaker 2: said to you about like you know, what is your
Speaker 2: fantasy and it means you know, it's multiple people. I
Speaker 2: can say that now because I'm single, but that's not
Speaker 2: something that I would have considered if I was married
Speaker 2: or in a relationship. Because I'm completely and totally single,
Speaker 2: I can say things like that, does that feel you
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Do you understand where I'm saying? Yeah?
Speaker 2: And I think sometimes that when people want to bring
Speaker 2: in another party, like either really great things happen or
Speaker 2: it can all like blow up.
Speaker 3: Well, I think where I'm a little bit. I haven't
Speaker 3: found porn that I.
Speaker 2: Like, like really not at all, not any of it.
Speaker 3: No, Like I really good, but like I'm very particular.
Speaker 3: I mean, granted, if you look at my history, it
Speaker 3: doesn't seem so. But like if I'm watching someone.
Speaker 2: Well people, but that's that's a very specific thing because
Speaker 2: you're watching it for a specific reason. You're not watching
Speaker 2: it to be in a relationship with these people. You're
Speaker 2: watching it for an end result. So of course you
Speaker 2: can be particular.
Speaker 3: So that's been a little bit tricky for me. But
Speaker 3: I think what I've realized now, which I didn't know
Speaker 3: that I needed. I think so much of what I
Speaker 3: am into, even if it hasn't led to sex, it's
Speaker 3: led me to want to. Is the way is somebody
Speaker 3: kind of like takes charge and talks to me about
Speaker 3: it leading up to it, even though it hasn't happened,
Speaker 3: Like and that's that's new to me, that feeling that
Speaker 3: like want now.
Speaker 2: But you have a high drive, a low drive, a
Speaker 2: medium drive, like are you?
Speaker 3: I mean it was pretty during like my not to
Speaker 3: not to be a downer, but during like all my
Speaker 3: cancer stuff.
Speaker 2: It was very very low I'm sure, and.
Speaker 3: Like beyond low, like couldn't And I mean now that
Speaker 3: I'm getting divorced, I haven't. It's not like I've had
Speaker 3: you know, It's not like I'm like whoa, let's go.
Speaker 3: But no, I'm thinking about it a lot. It's good,
Speaker 3: like I I and that wasn't I didn't normally think
Speaker 3: of sex like. That wasn't something that was in my
Speaker 3: regular thought process.
Speaker 2: No, I feel, you.
Speaker 3: Know, I'm finding myself getting hot and bothered, and I'm like, like,
Speaker 3: I'll get a text message or I'll get it and
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, did I just feel tingled?
Speaker 2: I like that though for you. Yeah, you're a human being,
Speaker 2: that's right, you know, And I can imagine my being
Speaker 2: sick and things like that's the last thing in your mind.
Speaker 2: But oh my god, we're single.
Speaker 3: We're single. We're single and apparently ready to mingle.
Speaker 2: Apparently, how are you doing over there on the hinge?
Speaker 3: On the hinge.
Speaker 2: We're up to photos and prompts. Oh yeah, yeah, she's
Speaker 2: shaking her head.
Speaker 3: You're gonna have to put in non negotiables for me.
Speaker 3: I put mandles like that, what's what's a what's that?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 3: It was like something that you can't possibly handle. And
Speaker 3: I said mandles like you know when men wear sandals.
Speaker 2: Oh, mandles, it's oh sandals, non negotiadle A mandle like
Speaker 2: a man sandal Like I not was that your onlyndle
Speaker 2: non negotiable?
Speaker 3: That's I think I said mandles and chewing like I've
Speaker 3: kind of was just sarcastic and my uh and my things.
Speaker 3: I wasn't taking it very seriously. But now that I've
Speaker 3: talked to someone that, I was like, Okay, I'm kind
Speaker 3: of into you. Now I'm like, one, do I need
Speaker 3: to like actually take him more seriously because apparently it
Speaker 3: can lead to something? Or do I just leave myself
Speaker 3: as being a study.
Speaker 2: I don't trust anybody. How the fuck am I going
Speaker 2: to do this? I don't trust anybody. I don't believe
Speaker 2: anything anybody says. I'm not gonna do well on this thing.
Speaker 2: I'm just not. I just I am too fucking jaded
Speaker 2: and just you know, no you have to.
Speaker 3: I mean, well, then don't but like have fun with
Speaker 3: it for your Well, yes.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have fun with but yeah, no, I can
Speaker 2: have fun with it. I'm just saying, like I know me,
Speaker 2: I'll be like, a that's impossible.
Speaker 3: Well, but also that's all you know, I do that
Speaker 3: ship too, Like I'll get compliments or I'll get somebody like,
Speaker 3: oh you know you're so second. I'm like, oh, what now, Like,
Speaker 3: I can't it's very hard to accept a compliment.
Speaker 2: But no, I can do that all day long.
Speaker 3: So what is like, Okay, what's the craziest place you've
Speaker 3: ever had? We filmed this on Beverly Hills and they
Speaker 3: never aired it. But where it's the craziest place you've
Speaker 3: ever had?
Speaker 2: Seed? I told you in the hospital when I had
Speaker 2: a head injury.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we both were hospitalized, yes, yeah, yeah, I forgot.
Speaker 3: Why did they never air that?
Speaker 2: That was they used to make us say all their
Speaker 2: ship and then they never yeah hospital.
Speaker 3: Yeah, both of us for hospital.
Speaker 2: That's where hospitalized. Yeah?
Speaker 3: For me, it was you know.
Speaker 2: Are you into dating doctors, lawyers, businessmen? What? What's what's
Speaker 2: up with the old career?
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not really into like an I'm a fiver,
Speaker 3: I would say, because one, I don't like to do
Speaker 3: things late at night. Like I don't want somebody that's
Speaker 3: like I'm mortal author shovery single day and I'm there
Speaker 3: from seven am till seven pm. And this is just
Speaker 3: like No, I want somebody that's their own boss and
Speaker 3: coming out like there's a little bit of freedom in
Speaker 3: their life because I I mean, look, I regardless like
Speaker 3: I can do my job from anywhere. I'm sitting in
Speaker 3: this fucking camper right now doing it.
Speaker 2: Right now, I'm doing my job in this corporate apartment
Speaker 2: in Broadway doing it.
Speaker 3: They Yeah, you see what I'm saying. We have jobs
Speaker 3: we can do that. There are certain people that their
Speaker 3: professions do not lead to that. Like if you're an accountant,
Speaker 3: I think you like, do what accountant things do? I
Speaker 3: don't know. I don't I'm not necessarily into an accountant.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I don't know. You know.
Speaker 2: I think I'll just have to see how it goes.
Speaker 2: I just have to see how it goes well.
Speaker 3: The last person and that you were with a month
Speaker 3: ago that you haven't told me about, which I'm a
Speaker 3: little bit irritated, is that a repeat person? Is that
Speaker 3: a repeat person or is this a freshie?
Speaker 2: It's not a new person. Hold no, it's not a
Speaker 2: new no. No, but it's not who I No, okay,
Speaker 2: not at all. No, no, no, no, no, this is
Speaker 2: not a new person I've been seeing. It's not like
Speaker 2: four weeks.
Speaker 3: Fine, fine, okay, then what's the what's the rule? You
Speaker 3: know now that we're new into the swimming of things
Speaker 3: like what happens with like condoms and like all of
Speaker 3: that stuff, like what goes down here? What what's the sitch?
Speaker 2: I don't really know. I mean I think that you
Speaker 2: should have safe sex, like, don't be stupid, but I'm
Speaker 2: probably safe sex is you should be paramount, should be
Speaker 2: up top.
Speaker 3: But yeah, but what do I tell like should I
Speaker 3: just start texting people before you know, we go out
Speaker 3: after a couple of times and be like, hey, I'm
Speaker 3: allergic to latex. So if you're thinking, are you really
Speaker 3: don't remember my eyelashes? I can't have big eyelashes.
Speaker 2: With eyelash eyelash glue and condoms are different latexes.
Speaker 3: No, I can assure you with one hundred percent your
Speaker 3: latex condom is a problem for me.
Speaker 2: It has to be text Well, then why don't you
Speaker 2: keep your own condoms that you like? And then that
Speaker 2: way if you decid because it's going to be your choice.
Speaker 3: I mean, it doesn't that seem a little bit like
Speaker 3: this is what I'm doing my Tuesday nights. I'm wrapping
Speaker 3: it up and let's go.
Speaker 2: Well, nobody has to know. I mean, if you get
Speaker 2: down to the moment and it is what it is,
Speaker 2: you can just be a girl scout and be like,
Speaker 2: I've got my own protections, So how about that? And
Speaker 2: it's customer is what I'm.
Speaker 3: Like bright Red even discussing the thought this.
Speaker 2: Yes, but you're not You're going to have to do
Speaker 2: this and you're going to have to just accept that
Speaker 2: this is where we are in life.
Speaker 3: What is the best way that you have an orgasm?
Speaker 2: What do you mean like penetrast, penetrative? Yeah, I do
Speaker 2: it all.
Speaker 3: Are you inner outer? You can do both?
Speaker 2: Do both? I've trained my interesting things, not necessarily.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like we just need to use this
Speaker 3: interview as your hinge profile and then any issues.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that'll get all the wrong people. No, but I
Speaker 2: think that No, you know, getting to know your body
Speaker 2: and something like that, especially when you're like my age,
Speaker 2: it's like it's it's a different vibe, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm pretty comfortable with myself, and I know why I'm more.
Speaker 3: Comfortable with myself now than I was ten years.
Speaker 2: Ago, because you're feel comfortable in your own skin all
Speaker 2: the way around. I feel as if you you know,
Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm at this place in my life
Speaker 2: like it is what it is, due, it is what
Speaker 2: it is. Yeah, it just it is what it is.
Speaker 2: This is who I am, This is what I have
Speaker 2: going on, This is what I do for a living,
Speaker 2: this is what I don't do, this is what I've
Speaker 2: been through. You know, I can't you know, I'm going
Speaker 2: to sugarcoating our shit at this point, I know for whom,
Speaker 2: for what? I know?
Speaker 3: Like you're going to figure it out anyway. Can we
Speaker 3: talk a little bit about Brookshields. Did you hear about
Speaker 3: her interview where she got about her Yeah, accidental vaginal rejuvenation.
Speaker 3: You know, I wouldn't mind to get an accidental vaginal rejuvenation.
Speaker 2: What was her story? She went for a procedure and
Speaker 2: they did something added, Yeah, like.
Speaker 3: I don't know what the procedure was. Maybe she was paying.
Speaker 3: I don't actually fully know the story, but there's clips
Speaker 3: everywhere about it. But she was very open about her
Speaker 3: sex life and what she was into. And I guess
Speaker 3: she went in to get something done. My guess is
Speaker 3: something and like, you know, I jump on a trampoline,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna pee Like that's right. Yeah, So my guess
Speaker 3: is that she went in to get Oh no, I
Speaker 3: think what happened was I think she went in to
Speaker 3: get the esthetics cleaned up a bit, and then they
Speaker 3: went in and like tightened without her. No, He's like,
Speaker 3: oh yeah, she elected to go. Oh yeah, that's what
Speaker 3: it is. She elected to undergo a labia reduction eight
Speaker 3: years after the birth of her youngest daughter, and then
Speaker 3: following the procedure, the doctor told her he had thrown
Speaker 3: in a bonus rejuvenation. So, I mean, I wonder if
Speaker 3: it's a good or bad thing. But so like a
Speaker 3: laby reduction, I mean, women either have anys or outis.
Speaker 3: We got to be clear, you know, I always talk
Speaker 3: about this. I'm obsessed with knowing the ratio because like
Speaker 3: I really want to know what the ratio is.
Speaker 2: I'll send your picten.
Speaker 3: But are you one hundred percent close clamshell? You mean yeah,
Speaker 3: so you're one hundred percent any Yeah, m hm, that's
Speaker 3: so nice for you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's good. That's good. It's good. Yeah, that's how
Speaker 2: I was born.
Speaker 3: Yeah, mine is not Mine isn't like a RBF or RBC.
Speaker 3: But it's not an army RBC roast beef curtain. I
Speaker 3: did not have that.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, right, you don't have the meat curtains.
Speaker 3: I don't have a meat curtain. But I'm not one
Speaker 3: hundred percent close clamshell.
Speaker 2: I'm a closed clamshell.
Speaker 3: I wonder what is it a genetic thing, because it
Speaker 3: has to.
Speaker 2: Be that's just how I think, it's just how you're born.
Speaker 2: I think it's just you know, it is what it is.
Speaker 3: Do you have better orgasms with circumcised or uncircumcised penises?
Speaker 2: I prefer circumcised penises, but I that's not saying, uh,
Speaker 2: you know, there's a lot of Europeans. I mean they
Speaker 2: have a hood on and they're hot, So I really
Speaker 2: don't care.
Speaker 3: If I mean we're talking about I mean people have
Speaker 3: been married to not using if you're using a condom,
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: But the majority of the humans in my past sex life,
Speaker 3: I had a very hard time having an orgasm with
Speaker 3: a circumcised penis.
Speaker 2: Oh I don't.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know. Now I've got to learn something.
Speaker 2: You've got to learn some things. No, I have no problem, but.
Speaker 3: Like everyone in my family is like that was like,
Speaker 3: are you know my my brothers aren't my husband was.
Speaker 2: I remember when my son was born, they asked me
Speaker 2: do you want to circumcise them or not? And I
Speaker 2: said yes, is that you know.
Speaker 3: I was surprised that Edwin wanted to circumcise Crew because
Speaker 3: he's not. And my dad was very like steadfast about
Speaker 3: not having my brother circumcised because he's not, and andone
Speaker 3: was like, Nope, let's do it. And yeah, so you know,
Speaker 3: it is what it is. I don't think it necessarily
Speaker 3: makes a difference. Maybe it's just the people not the penis.
Speaker 3: Do you think size matters?
Speaker 2: Yes? I do you do? Yeah? Do you think size matters?
Speaker 3: I think if they're like super thin, that's I don't
Speaker 3: need it to be like ginormous by.
Speaker 2: Any what I asked, I said.
Speaker 3: If they're thin, yes, it matters. Yeah, the girth matters
Speaker 3: more than the length.
Speaker 2: In my opinion, I think it all matters.
Speaker 3: Do you think it all matters? And do you do
Speaker 3: you have better ones on top or on bottom or
Speaker 3: on reverse cowgirl?
Speaker 2: I don't like reverse cowgirl. I think it hurts sometimes
Speaker 2: me too. Why it's not like it's it's flexing down. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't like. That's not my favorite.
Speaker 3: So but what's your favorite thing?
Speaker 2: Well it kind of depends what mood I mean, so
Speaker 2: probably I don't know. I like them both like I
Speaker 2: like on top of it on bottom. I mean I
Speaker 2: can have can orgasm either way. What about that?
Speaker 6: For me?
Speaker 3: I I will it's hard for me to orgasm on bottom. Oh,
Speaker 3: I prefer on top, but there like has to be
Speaker 3: a certain method, like I have to be on top
Speaker 3: and they have to like almost arch their backs so
Speaker 3: that like I know that there's like a muscle or
Speaker 3: something that pushes up. Yeah, of course if that doesn't happen,
Speaker 3: like but also for me, it's my mind, like if
Speaker 3: my mind isn't.
Speaker 2: That's what doctor B just said, yeah, saying like.
Speaker 3: If I I have to like really be in that
Speaker 3: or it's all that.
Speaker 2: Are you sober during sex? Do you like to have
Speaker 2: a cocktail or what?
Speaker 3: Or I mean I am open to either. I would
Speaker 3: say I'm probably more wild after a cocktail because I.
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, for sure, for sure.
Speaker 3: But no, I mean having orgasms. It doesn't matter if
Speaker 3: I've had a cocktail or not had a cocktail. It's
Speaker 3: really like my mindset. But no, I'm definitely probably more
Speaker 3: vocal and more you know, it's like filming a housewife show.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna probably say all all the things, do all.
Speaker 2: The good things, do all the good things.
Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh, but yeah.
Speaker 2: I'm excited for I gotta pick listen, no, I gotta
Speaker 2: so the next stages on my hinge over here, we
Speaker 2: have to pick the pictures and maybe I'll send you
Speaker 2: some and ask you what you think perfect.
Speaker 3: And then maybe the next time we're in person on
Speaker 3: the pod, we can go through and select who is
Speaker 3: welcome to.
Speaker 2: Get on my hinge anytime, and I will you know what,
Speaker 2: let's exchange.
Speaker 3: Oh, that's what we need to do and pick and
Speaker 3: do something.
Speaker 2: We'll do it. We'll do it live. We'll exchange phones.
Speaker 2: I'll be home in a couple of weeks. We'll exchange phones,
Speaker 2: and then we'll just go.
Speaker 3: It's perfect, all right, Well I expect this to be done, Lie,
Speaker 3: I'm going to put it on the group chat.
Speaker 2: You we'll do it. We're doing it right now. We're
Speaker 2: trying to just get it, get it. You know, I
Speaker 2: got to pick some pictures that make me look normal
Speaker 2: and that make me look insane.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, then then don't pick one of your
Speaker 3: confessional shock.
Speaker 2: I know, I know, I listen, I've already been. I
Speaker 2: don't know that we have anything for this. Do we
Speaker 2: have normal pictures?
Speaker 3: I said, thinking of some of your looks that you
Speaker 3: could put on.
Speaker 2: There and oh no, that's run them right off the pet.
Speaker 2: That's if we wanted to date gay men. I know
Speaker 2: exactly what to put on my profile. But if we
Speaker 2: want these straits to answer, we're not going to be.
Speaker 3: Should we put on that red latex out that you
Speaker 3: reamed me out in?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's real hit. Listen, my text is a king,
Speaker 2: you know, I know somebody that's into late text.
Speaker 3: But isn't it hard to get on and off?
Speaker 2: Like? What are you going to do?
Speaker 3: Kind a hole down there?
Speaker 2: That was just the top so and I think you know,
Speaker 2: it's just it's just a baby powder inside so that
Speaker 2: you just don't stick to it.
Speaker 3: Should Erica knows that I don't. Well, you guys pretty much,
Speaker 3: if you've listened to this pod and you had the
Speaker 3: opportunity to have sex on one of them, you're probably
Speaker 3: going to have more fun with Erica.
Speaker 2: That's not true. Teddy is just trying to make it
Speaker 2: out like she's not wild. I happen to know who
Speaker 2: she is, which is why we do this pod together
Speaker 2: because I know who she is. So there's that.
Speaker 3: I'm sure that we need to probably do another one.
Speaker 3: Of these in six months after I've had a little
Speaker 3: bit more practice, and then.
Speaker 2: Girl, you're going to outpace me. I'm telling you, nobody's
Speaker 2: going to hit me up on this thing.
Speaker 3: Do we keep like a little journal?
Speaker 2: We should we should keep we should keep analytics or
Speaker 2: staff ats or whatever they call them. You know how
Speaker 2: they always show us, like write a growth chart to
Speaker 2: see what our our analytics are, our.
Speaker 3: Our strong months.
Speaker 2: Right, all right, I love you, miss miss you too.
Speaker 3: Kicking ass.
Speaker 2: Thanks, all right, Bye bye, honey,