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Speaker 1: Hi, guys, Welcome to another episode of Diamonds in the

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Speaker 1: Rough with myself, Teddy Mellencamp and.

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Speaker 2: Hi, I'm Erica Jane.

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Speaker 3: Well, if this doesn't perfectly sum up who we are

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Speaker 3: at this moment, Erica is on Broadway and filming the

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Speaker 3: pod from New York and I am in a camper

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Speaker 3: in Palm Desert, So.

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Speaker 2: Well, what are you doing there in the camper and

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Speaker 2: Palm Desert.

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Speaker 3: I am here at the camper because we are back

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Speaker 3: at our first horse show of the year, and so yeah,

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Speaker 3: and we're trying to you know, cut some coths do

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Speaker 3: the things. Like it was. It was fine camper life.

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Speaker 3: Night one was all right, except for the fact that

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Speaker 3: Slay wanted to be in the primary room and I

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Speaker 3: just loved on the buck. I was like, I am

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Speaker 3: having flashbacks of my childhood. My dad's tour bus. That's

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Speaker 3: a really junkie one.

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Speaker 2: Not in the John Mellencamp tour bus.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: You know what, Uh, the horse world is is expensive.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's an expensive and extensive world to live

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Speaker 2: in and you know, be successful, and it's not for

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Speaker 2: the faint of heart. How are you.

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Speaker 3: I am? I'm good. You know, it's the crazy thing

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Speaker 3: about you know, getting divorced and you know, I mean

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Speaker 3: not that you're divorced, but this the ending of uh,

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Speaker 3: you know, a relationship is just like the different stages

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Speaker 3: of how you feel throughout time. Sure, and you know

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Speaker 3: there's some days that are great and some days are

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Speaker 3: little bit freakin' dicey, you know very much. So trying

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Speaker 3: to communicate with somebody that you know was once you know,

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Speaker 3: I'm a micromanager in general, so like, yeah, that has

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Speaker 3: always been my thing, like our schedules, organizing things and

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Speaker 3: having to like take that step back and realize, like, okay,

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Speaker 3: that's actually no longer your job on the days that

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Speaker 3: you're not with the kids is I mean, it's it's heartbreaking,

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Speaker 3: but it's also like, Okay, this is what it feels

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Speaker 3: like to like go with the flow. I've never I

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Speaker 3: don't know in my life, I've ever gone with the flow.

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Speaker 2: Well yeah, and I don't like that either, going with

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Speaker 2: the flow. But I've surrendered to that moment of just

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Speaker 2: sort of you know, I don't know what's coming next,

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Speaker 2: and I can't predict it, and I'm out here on

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Speaker 2: my own two feet, which is great. Like I'm not

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Speaker 2: bitching but there are moments where I'm like, oh shit,

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Speaker 2: you know what is going on? What do you do

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Speaker 2: on your days if you're not with the kids.

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Speaker 3: So I mean I pod every day, so like I'm

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Speaker 3: always working. And then now I'm it's it sounds crazy,

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Speaker 3: but like I've gone on a couple of dates.

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Speaker 2: Yes, fucker, I don't even go on dates.

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Speaker 3: Well, you want to hear the crazy thing.

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Speaker 2: I'm not trying to get these dates. Wait, how are

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Speaker 2: you getting these dates?

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Speaker 3: Well, so this is pretty crazy. So I signed up

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Speaker 3: for Hinge and I was like, this is a freaking joke,

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Speaker 3: Like why are only twenty eight year olds reaching out

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Speaker 3: to me? Like why? And then I realized it's because

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Speaker 3: I had my age down too low. But I was like, clearly,

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Speaker 3: I don't need to be dating a twenty eight year old.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm they're hot, but like I don't. I

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Speaker 3: don't need it. And plus I can't really figure out

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Speaker 3: Hinge because I'm too old. I don't know what a

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Speaker 3: rose means versus a heart, Like I don't know. But

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Speaker 3: there was somebody who messaged me and just was like

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Speaker 3: complimented one of the photos and it was weird. I

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Speaker 3: like I let it sit for like a couple of days.

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Speaker 3: I was like, no need to respond to the rose

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Speaker 3: or whatever I got. And then because he didn't say anything,

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Speaker 3: he just hard like rosed it. So I was like,

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Speaker 3: an actor. I don't know what the hell it is.

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Speaker 3: And then the other day I just messaged and I

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Speaker 3: was like, by any chance did I meet you in

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Speaker 3: like nineteen ninety nine? Are you friends with the following people?

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Speaker 3: And he's like, yes, Teddy, I was wondering if you

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Speaker 2: Me nineteen ninety nine.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I was nineteen when I first came out to LA,

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Speaker 3: but I recognized his face. But I sae and he's

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Speaker 3: like and then he's like, yes, Teddy, I you know,

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Speaker 3: I was just waiting to see if you.

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Speaker 2: Remember so you guys went out, yeah, And well.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know. It's more about like the

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Speaker 3: conversations leading to going out all those But.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying that, like you know what I'm just

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Speaker 2: saying like is it nice to be out and like

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well he particularly I have not gone out with

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Speaker 3: yet because talking and having conversation and it's that weird

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Speaker 3: like who knows. But it's been so long that I'm like,

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Speaker 3: I don't even know, like do people flirt or like

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Speaker 2: You are looking at the wrong person to I don't

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Speaker 2: know anything.

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Speaker 3: But before we get into your dating sage, how's Broadway?

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Speaker 2: There is no dating sage. Broadways fabulous. I got a

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Speaker 2: standing elevation in my opening night. I standing elevation my

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Speaker 2: second night. It's great. I'm having fun. You know, there's

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Speaker 2: such a community here at Chicago, the musical Everybody there's

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Speaker 2: like Broadway, you know, to come and do I love it?

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Speaker 3: Are any of the same people that were on the

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Speaker 3: show still Yes, So that's gotten more comforting.

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Speaker 2: It is because you get to share the stage with them,

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Speaker 2: they and they you know, I did it eighty times.

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Speaker 2: But that was five years ago. So we were hurting,

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, that was five years ago. Yes, you

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Speaker 2: were pregnant, getting older?

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Speaker 3: We how has that been five years? In my mind,

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Speaker 3: I was like, that was two years ago.

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Speaker 2: By the way. But by the way, these five years

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Speaker 2: for you and me have been horrible. Not like think

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Speaker 2: how much our lives have changed, I mean just personal things.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, but Broadway's great. I'm having a great time.

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Speaker 3: And you're there three more weeks, Yeah, February eleven, three

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Speaker 3: more February eleventh. Well, I'm so excited for you. That

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Speaker 3: is awesome. We took some listeners feedback, and something that

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Speaker 3: about is sex. Something that's so interesting. I mean, Erica knows.

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Speaker 3: Like when I first met Erica, I wouldn't even say

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Speaker 2: She was very you were very very conservative.

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Speaker 2: So I little like, come on, you were a little stiff.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was very very stiff. So the fact that

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Speaker 3: we're doing this podcast, I'm talking about sex is definitely

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Speaker 3: out of my comfort zone, especially because we're doing it

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Speaker 2: A dude, this is going to be hey, but you

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Speaker 2: know what, sex is an important part of your life,

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Speaker 2: our lives as women, and you know, life goes on

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Speaker 3: When was the last time you had sex?

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Speaker 2: Maybe a few weeks ago, maybe a month ago. But

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Speaker 3: Hold on if you haven't mentioned anything to me about

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Speaker 2: Because it's not that important. Oh if it was something

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Speaker 2: but it's nothing to report, so I could say, like

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Speaker 2: a month ago, yeah, but I have not been focused.

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Speaker 2: But wait, I want to give myself a little bit

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Speaker 2: that is like all confuting. But now that I'm here

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Speaker 2: and I've just done it a few times, and you

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Speaker 2: know what, when I saw Andy for WA's What Happens

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Speaker 2: Live last week, he was telling me, He's like, Erica,

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Speaker 2: are you sure? He was like yes, I'm telling you

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Speaker 2: now that you're on, maybe I should get on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I'm on Hinge.

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Speaker 2: That's what Laya was on and she Ray won't let

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they didn't let me on either.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a housewives.

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Speaker 3: Think I'm on Hinge, And I mean it's the other

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Speaker 3: night we were I went to dinner with Kyle and

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Speaker 3: I mean it's it's a lot of no's. It's like

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Speaker 3: You're gonna have to say a lot of no's before

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Speaker 3: we get that. Yes, but I.

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Speaker 2: Think that's a cool thing. I mean, what did you do?

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Speaker 3: This thing, so yeah, I think you should do it.

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Speaker 3: I mean my profile, let me let me read it.

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Speaker 2: Hinge Dating app Match to install Hinge. If you're listening,

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Speaker 2: send us something.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, whatever, what do they make us? Yeah, like make us.

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Speaker 3: Some people are verified Hinge users. I'm not. I don't

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Speaker 3: know how to become one. I don't know what that means,

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Speaker 3: but it is me.

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Speaker 2: What is my phone number? I'm doing it right now,

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Speaker 3: But what I have learned is that quickly once you're

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Speaker 3: Like they're like, hey, because you can with Hinge, you respond,

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Speaker 3: then they respond like there's no like double messaging if

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Speaker 3: So the couple of people I have spoken to on

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Speaker 3: Or can we talk on Instagram? Because this isn't pain

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Speaker 3: in the ass? Oh okay, yeah, so it's like it's

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Speaker 3: not you know whatever, it's slightly Yeah, I just I

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Speaker 3: got to introduduce to what do you put up pictures

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Speaker 3: and stuff? Yeah, you have to put up pictures and

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Speaker 3: then what Hinge does. So I put up like five

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Speaker 3: pictures a couple I'm like glammed out, and then a

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Speaker 3: couple like ones of me riding horses, and then ones

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Speaker 3: of me like no makeup, looking like like here's the range,

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Speaker 3: going to be riding a horse like this. These are

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Speaker 3: the options. There's no real middle ground for me. And

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Speaker 3: then hiinge sees which one of those pictures is liked

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Speaker 3: the most and then makes that your primary photo.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I know, Okay, so.

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Speaker 3: My primary photos changed a couple of times, but either way,

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Speaker 3: Okay, so, Erica, if now that we're getting you signed

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Speaker 2: I can't see Teddy. I'm just too jaded. I'd be like,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, okay, So we're going to bring on her.

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Speaker 3: Name's doctor Viviana Coles. She's dedicated her career to helping

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Speaker 3: couples and individuals navigate emotional and physical intimacy. Pillow talk. No,

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Speaker 3: I'm so good at pillow talk.

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Speaker 2: I'm the nastiest pillow talker, the nastiest.

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Speaker 3: Technic, so nasty I can do. Pillow talk to me

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Speaker 2: I can do it, are you? I can do it all?

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Speaker 3: A fucking course you can. You know what, just because

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Speaker 2: No, I don't think he liked the same thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't either, But let's bring her on real quick,

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Speaker 3: pretty high. Hi guy, so he Hi, good to see

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Speaker 5: Doctor viv doctor Viviana, doctor v whatever you want whatever role.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, so doctor v that tracks for what

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Speaker 3: this podcast is about, which is sex. What is like

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Speaker 3: your biggest recommendation for somebody who doesn't necessarily know what

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Speaker 3: they're missing and their sexual relationship.

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Speaker 5: Ultimately, whether you're solo or in a relationship where you

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Speaker 5: can have partnered experiences. I want everyone's sex drive to

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Speaker 5: really enhance their life. And for so many of us women,

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Speaker 5: especially as we're getting a little bit older into our

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Speaker 5: forties and fifties, we start to feel like, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 5: I have this freedom with my body, this vulnerability that

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Speaker 5: I've never experienced before. But sometimes our sex drives plummet.

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Speaker 5: So I would love to encourage everyone to really tap

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Speaker 5: into their largest sex organ, the brain. I'm sure you've

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Speaker 5: heard this before. It's so important to let those sexy

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Speaker 5: thoughts in, let them stew. If you need help with that,

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Speaker 5: or if you just need a little bit of like

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Speaker 5: a shove in the right direction, head over to my

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Speaker 5: Vivid Fantasy and create your own fantasy.

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Speaker 6: So, my vivid fantasy, what is this? Yeah, it's okay,

452
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Speaker 6: this is new teddy. You don't know anything about this yet.

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Speaker 5: So my Vivid Fantasy is something that I have created.

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Speaker 5: It is a choose your own sexy adventure.

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Speaker 6: For adults, obviously, and you.

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Speaker 5: Can fill it out on your own or with a partner.

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Speaker 5: But preferably on your own, because we want this to

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Speaker 5: be all about what you want, what you find sexy,

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Speaker 5: where you want to be to all of that, and

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Speaker 5: it takes you through what used to be an in

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Speaker 5: office exercise.

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Speaker 6: For me, with my clients, I would take them like,

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Speaker 6: detail by detail. What do you smell, what do you hear?

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Speaker 6: What do you see?

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Speaker 5: All of that Now I've digitized it, so any moment

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Speaker 5: of the day or an evening, you can go on

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Speaker 5: create your own fantasy and it spits out an erotic

468
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Speaker 5: story that's all your own. And the process of doing

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Speaker 5: this has absolutely opened women's minds in general, but men too.

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Speaker 6: I have a lot of partners that are doing this

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Speaker 6: in mind.

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Speaker 2: I just don't want to ask you this. What do

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Speaker 2: you find is the biggest thing holding women back from

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Speaker 2: doing something like this, from having like a fantasy.

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Speaker 5: K A lot of women are stuck in this idea

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Speaker 5: of where where am I supposed to find the time

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Speaker 5: or the energy?

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Speaker 6: And when is it okay to have sexy thoughts?

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Speaker 5: Is it only during sex For a lot of women, yes,

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Speaker 5: that's when they think they should That's the only time

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Speaker 5: they should be thinking about sex is in the sex act.

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Speaker 6: You need to be stroking.

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Speaker 5: That organ all day long in order to feel ready

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Speaker 5: to actually be physical, either with yourself or with someone else.

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Speaker 6: Think about the fact that women often take twenty.

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Speaker 5: Minutes longer than men to reach the same level of

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Speaker 5: pleasure or even orgasm. If you're waiting until you're in

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Speaker 5: the moment, imagine how far behind.

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Speaker 6: You might feel.

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Speaker 5: So and I think that one of the reasons that

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Speaker 5: men do this pretty well and I think they're ahead

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Speaker 5: of us, is that they allow sexy thoughts to come

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Speaker 5: in and they don't immediately go oh my gosh, no,

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Speaker 5: oh my gosh, no, get away, no, no, this is not

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Speaker 5: the time, wait what like, you know, and for a

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Speaker 5: lot of women, I think we just really struggle with that.

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Speaker 5: So this kind of gives you the the arena. But

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Speaker 5: even if you're even if you have five.

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Speaker 6: Minutes and you're waiting for your uber or just take.

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Speaker 5: The time to do this because you can always respond,

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Speaker 5: you know, you can always go back and actually read it.

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Speaker 5: But allow those sexy thoughts and ladies, it does wonders

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Speaker 5: for your sex drive, and it'll get you a little

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Speaker 5: bit more revved long beyond, you know, long before you

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Speaker 5: go into anything sexy with someone else. The other thing

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Speaker 5: that I would tell you is, if you're in a relationship,

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Speaker 5: you need to have more pillow talk. Now, pillow talk

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Speaker 5: for me is an underlying sensual current, and that is

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Speaker 5: the touching, the laughing, the joking, the teasing, all the

510
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Speaker 5: things that happen when you're nowhere near a sex act,

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Speaker 5: but you're just playful in that way. If you can

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Speaker 5: continue to have that in your relationship, sex won't feel

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Speaker 5: like you're going from cold to hot from awesome on.

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Speaker 5: It won't be like this thing that you're jumping in

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Speaker 5: and out of like so many people say.

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Speaker 2: Teddy says she doesn't like pillow talk, but I do,

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Speaker 2: and I think that it's a real skill. And I

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Speaker 2: think Teddy, like, the more you do it, the more

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Speaker 2: you're like, you don't think I.

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Speaker 3: Know what it until you just kind of explained it.

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Speaker 3: I didn't really know what pillow talk was. Like, it's

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Speaker 3: not like.

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Speaker 5: You're right, pillow talk is what used to happen when

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Speaker 5: you were like maybe postcoital.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, I don't like that.

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Speaker 5: Like it's like, you know, let's talk and share sweet

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Speaker 5: nothings and talk about what just happened. People don't do

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Speaker 5: that and and I'm not saying you shouldn't, but thank you.

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Speaker 3: Okay, let's hear it. What do you talk about, Erica?

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Speaker 6: What are you about?

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Speaker 2: Listen? I will talk to you about what I felt

532
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Speaker 2: felt good? What how I like the way you touched me,

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Speaker 2: or you know, part of your body feels really good

534
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Speaker 2: to me, or this was amazing that. Oh yeah, like

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Speaker 2: I'm really into all of that. I'll give you the

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Speaker 2: full rundown.

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Speaker 6: Okay. And what happens when it's not so great? Do

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Speaker 6: you also do that? Or is that another time.

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Speaker 2: You're just not that when it's not that great, I

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Speaker 2: won't even get to that. Does that make sense? Like

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Speaker 2: I only do that with people number one? I feel

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Speaker 2: really comfortable with number two that I've had a nice

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Speaker 2: time with. Like that is something that to me is

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Speaker 2: almost it's going to sound crazy, almost more intimate than

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Speaker 2: the actual sec that's sex act itself, because if I'm

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Speaker 2: being vulnerable with you and telling you the things that

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Speaker 2: I liked and what I want to see more of,

548
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Speaker 2: that means I enjoyed myself. I had a good time.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so a lot of people are not giving each

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Speaker 5: other that feedback. I'm so happy for you that you

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Speaker 5: do and I think it's it's a great thing. I

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Speaker 5: often recommend that people give feedback.

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Speaker 6: Outside of the sexual experience.

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Speaker 5: That way, it doesn't feel like so raw and you're

555
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Speaker 5: not so sensitive whether it's good or bad.

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Speaker 6: But yes, absolutely do your thing.

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Speaker 5: But my pillow talk, and actually I'm writing a book

558
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Speaker 5: about it right now, is really trying to help people

559
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Speaker 5: to have have the ability to say, you know, I

560
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Speaker 5: want you because I show you.

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Speaker 6: And it's not just during sex.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I really like someone, Like I have a long,

563
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Speaker 2: like daily communication, like long sort of sensual lead up

564
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Speaker 2: to like seeing them, like I'm that's who I am.

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Speaker 3: I'm like the seduction. The seduction is all I'll.

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Speaker 2: Do it just four hours a day, Like that's how

567
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Speaker 2: my brain works, and that's what I do. Like, I'm

568
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Speaker 2: on it. If I'm in if I like someone and

569
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Speaker 2: I'm really in that space, nothing stops me from that.

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Speaker 6: Okay.

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Speaker 2: I love that.

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Speaker 3: And I'm so new to it, which sounds crazy because

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Speaker 3: I've been married for agion years, but I'm so new

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Speaker 3: to being single and kind of exploring this other side

575
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Speaker 3: of me because you know, I think, and this isn't

576
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Speaker 3: too shade my ex or anything like that, but it

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Speaker 3: really when you have a bunch of little kids and

578
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Speaker 3: you're you know, you're going through the motions. It almost

579
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 3: feels like you know your business partners. You're like, all right,

580
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Speaker 3: we're gonna go in, we're gonna do this, we're gonna

581
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Speaker 3: handle it, and then here we go. We wrapped it

582
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Speaker 3: up and good we we we had sex a couple

583
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Speaker 3: times this week, and so we're nailing it well.

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Speaker 5: I actually have a quiz that'll help you to figure

585
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Speaker 5: out how to do this better, how to have more

586
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Speaker 5: pillow talk in both a physical ineverbal way, and it's

587
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Speaker 5: pillowtop quiz dot Com and Teddy. I definitely want you

588
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 5: to take it because I think you'll find that you'll

589
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Speaker 5: be able to recognize like, oh, going forward, I really

590
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 5: should be more mindful of this or know how this

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00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 5: comes across, or because you're you. What you're describing is

592
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Speaker 5: so many people out there where it's like, look, I

593
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Speaker 5: love scheduling sex because I'm a busy woman.

594
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Speaker 6: But most people don't want to schedule because they feel like, oh,

595
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Speaker 6: it's too much of checking off the box. If you

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Speaker 6: have pillow talk, if.

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Speaker 5: You have more pillow talk in your relationship, it doesn't

598
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Speaker 5: feel like you're checking something off. It feels like you're like, oh,

599
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Speaker 5: this is this is part of the fabric of what

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Speaker 5: we've done, and it doesn't feel so random, and it

601
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Speaker 5: doesn't feel so pressure.

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Speaker 6: You know, so much pressure and forced. Just beware of

603
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Speaker 6: these things. So many people I wish I could. I

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Speaker 6: do a lot of premarital counseling.

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Speaker 5: I actually started a program when I first started my

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Speaker 5: practice back in two thousand and eight because I was like,

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Speaker 5: oh my gosh, if people just knew these things at

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Speaker 5: the beginning of their relationships, they might not be coming

609
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Speaker 5: in with the at the end of their relationship. So

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Speaker 5: being aware of this and like being a I guess

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Speaker 5: a consumer of relationship education, I feel like we don't

612
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Speaker 5: do enough of that.

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Speaker 3: If you are in a place and I mean I

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Speaker 3: get the you know, the other things that you've discussed,

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Speaker 3: but if you're in a place where all of a sudden,

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Speaker 3: you're want you're feeling this urge, or you're feeling like

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Speaker 3: these different feelings that you haven't felt before, how do

618
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Speaker 3: you give yourself the confidence to like express those feelings

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Speaker 3: to you know? I think I think so much of

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Speaker 3: my life, you know, when I was younger and then

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Speaker 3: kind of throughout different relationships up until getting married, you know,

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Speaker 3: like sex was like a forbidden thing and like showing

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Speaker 3: who I was or what I enjoyed, like I never

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Speaker 3: felt kind of comfortable doing that. So like I get

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Speaker 3: the other part, but like, how do you get yourself

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Speaker 3: to actually follow through with those types of things.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think one of the first things that you

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Speaker 5: can do is first be sure that you understand what

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Speaker 5: it is that the big deal is. So if you

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Speaker 5: if you haven't been experiencing pleasure on your own or

631
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Speaker 5: with your partner, I would say tapping into that and

632
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Speaker 5: really taking some time to learn how to experience pleasure

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Speaker 5: and learn how to give yourself pleasure because for a

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Speaker 5: lot of peop people.

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Speaker 6: They especially women, we won't go.

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Speaker 5: After it because we don't really know what that it

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Speaker 5: is and we don't feel confident that we know what

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Speaker 5: that is. It's like, you know, I don't get that

639
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 5: sense from erics, so I'm not going to talk to

640
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 5: her right now, but yeah, everyone else, you know, really

641
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:25,240
Speaker 5: trying to figure out what makes you feel your most,

642
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 5: if it's your feminine energy, if it's your masculine energy,

643
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 5: whatever it is, whatever makes you just feel like that release,

644
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 5: that sense of giving, that bonding, the responsibleness, the four

645
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 5: intimacy styles, like all of that. I think once you

646
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Speaker 5: know that, you're going to be much more confident saying

647
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Speaker 5: hey and let me teach you.

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Speaker 2: And let me learn too. I think also too, there's

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Speaker 2: something to you know, good girls or you know whatever.

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Speaker 2: You weren't really raised. We're raised with somewhat of a gurgirls,

651
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 2: don't you know, like sex. There's all of these different

652
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 2: things around women feeling comfortable in their own skin and

653
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 2: give yourself permission to just either know your body or

654
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 2: to get to just feel comfortable in an intimate situation.

655
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,280
Speaker 2: I think that's half the battle, right, That's half the battle.

656
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Speaker 5: And I also think that it's one of the things

657
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 5: that creates long term relationships. Sure, if you are just

658
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 5: wanting to hook up, you don't really need to care

659
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 5: about what's going on for the other person and you're

660
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 5: just getting through it.

661
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 6: But if you're wanting to be in a long term relationship, this.

662
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 5: Is a key factor. Having lasting physical intimacy is a

663
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 5: key factor in doing that, and it's a part of

664
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 5: the investment that goes into long term relationships. And anyone

665
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,879
Speaker 5: that tells you otherwise is misguided, right, They're just they're

666
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:41,760
Speaker 5: missing point.

667
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 3: You know.

668
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 5: That's I think the last time we spoke, we talked

669
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 5: about my book before Intimacy Styles, and it's all about

670
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:51,280
Speaker 5: helping people to understand how to have long term, lasting

671
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 5: physical intimacy. Because again, if you want to get out

672
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 5: there and date and you want to have you know,

673
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 5: one night stands, and you want to have quickies and

674
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 5: you want to try different things, awesome, all for you,

675
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 5: for you.

676
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 6: But going into that long term.

677
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 5: Is where people really struggle because there's this kind of

678
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 5: like disconnect connect, disconnect, connect and trying to figure that out.

679
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 5: As you know, people who've really a lot of people

680
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 5: have really gone into this monogamy mindset. If it's not

681
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 5: easy monogamy a E and having kids and having businesses,

682
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 5: multiple businesses and travel and all of that, it's not

683
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 5: easy to keep that connection. So it's really important that

684
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 5: you look into it and really study that with your partner.

685
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 3: Well, thank you so much for coming on you guys.

686
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Speaker 3: She has so much incredible insight and more information that

687
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Speaker 3: she would love to give you. Guys. Will you give

688
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Speaker 3: our listeners some information just so they can they can

689
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Speaker 3: find you?

690
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Speaker 5: Yeah, everything is Doctor Viviana, spell out d O C

691
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Speaker 5: T O R V I V I A N A

692
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Speaker 5: on all platforms, my website, get my emails.

693
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Speaker 6: I tend to do a lot.

694
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Speaker 5: Of fun stuff in my emails, and of course all

695
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Speaker 5: my products on my shop. But I'm so grateful for you, ladies,

696
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Speaker 5: and my heart is with you and everyone in LA.

697
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Speaker 5: I'm hoping for the best for y'all and just love

698
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Speaker 5: y'all and love everything that you're doing things.

699
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Speaker 3: Okay, Eric, and I need to ask you a question.

700
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 3: Don't get mad at me. I'm not How was sex

701
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 3: with Tom.

702
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 2: Very fifties, very nineteen fifties, very very very sweet, very

703
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 2: sort of non adventurous.

704
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:44,439
Speaker 3: Okay, so like it? But were you always on top

705
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 3: or were you always on bottom?

706
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 2: It switched around? But my point is this, there was

707
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 2: not There's a different it was a different relationship like

708
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 2: that sexual relationship was not something.

709
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 3: That was at the height of the entire thing, right,

710
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 3: was it at the beginning?

711
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 2: I think we definitely have more sex at the beginning

712
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 2: than we did at the end, for sure. I mean,

713
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 2: but it was twenty years you know, I mean, you

714
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,280
Speaker 2: know he had undergone a lot of changes.

715
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 3: And what is your like and you can grill me too,

716
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:22,839
Speaker 3: So whatever, But what are your like kinks or fetishes

717
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 3: or like, what's your thing? What's like the one thing

718
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 3: that's going to like really make it happen for you.

719
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 2: I had a lot of group fantasies group, yeah.

720
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 3: With involving more than one man, or involving women with

721
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 3: one man more than one man. Have you ever had one?

722
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 2: No, but you asked me what what you asked me?

723
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 3: What was going on?

724
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 2: What's going on in yours?

725
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 3: So something for me, it's I'm like very like I

726
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 3: don't know what the word be, like tactileic. For me,

727
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 3: there's like it's it's smell, it's voice, it's like.

728
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: No.

729
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 3: But if you have those things, then I will show

730
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 3: more of myself to you. And I like to be dominated.

731
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 2: You think to be dominated?

732
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 3: Yet, Yeah, I think I'm such an alpha and so

733
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 3: many aspects in my life, like I'm not super into

734
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 3: wanting to have like soft, cuddly sex.

735
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hear a little for you.

736
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:46,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a little bit. I mean, there it can be.

737
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 2: But you never had me I had. Have you ever

738
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 2: had multiple partners at one time?

739
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 3: I haven't. I've never had a threesome Edwin. Back in

740
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 3: the day, me and Edwin, this is pretty kids and stuff.

741
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 3: We were can considering it, Like we found like there

742
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 3: was somebody we both thought was attractive, that we were

743
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 3: all flirting. We were in Vegas, and then like at

744
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 3: the end of the day we just kind of looked

745
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 3: at each other and I was like, I don't I

746
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 3: think this is going to be a bad idea ultimately.

747
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I can say things like what I

748
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 2: said to you about like you know, what is your

749
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 2: fantasy and it means you know, it's multiple people. I

750
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 2: can say that now because I'm single, but that's not

751
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 2: something that I would have considered if I was married

752
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,879
Speaker 2: or in a relationship. Because I'm completely and totally single,

753
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 2: I can say things like that, does that feel you

754
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Do you understand where I'm saying? Yeah?

755
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 2: And I think sometimes that when people want to bring

756
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 2: in another party, like either really great things happen or

757
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 2: it can all like blow up.

758
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 3: Well, I think where I'm a little bit. I haven't

759
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 3: found porn that I.

760
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 2: Like, like really not at all, not any of it.

761
00:41:55,600 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 3: No, Like I really good, but like I'm very particular.

762
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 3: I mean, granted, if you look at my history, it

763
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 3: doesn't seem so. But like if I'm watching someone.

764
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 2: Well people, but that's that's a very specific thing because

765
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 2: you're watching it for a specific reason. You're not watching

766
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 2: it to be in a relationship with these people. You're

767
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 2: watching it for an end result. So of course you

768
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 2: can be particular.

769
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 3: So that's been a little bit tricky for me. But

770
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 3: I think what I've realized now, which I didn't know

771
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 3: that I needed. I think so much of what I

772
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 3: am into, even if it hasn't led to sex, it's

773
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:44,800
Speaker 3: led me to want to. Is the way is somebody

774
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 3: kind of like takes charge and talks to me about

775
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 3: it leading up to it, even though it hasn't happened,

776
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 3: Like and that's that's new to me, that feeling that

777
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:00,359
Speaker 3: like want now.

778
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 2: But you have a high drive, a low drive, a

779
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 2: medium drive, like are you?

780
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 3: I mean it was pretty during like my not to

781
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 3: not to be a downer, but during like all my

782
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 3: cancer stuff.

783
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 2: It was very very low I'm sure, and.

784
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 3: Like beyond low, like couldn't And I mean now that

785
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 3: I'm getting divorced, I haven't. It's not like I've had

786
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 3: you know, It's not like I'm like whoa, let's go.

787
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 3: But no, I'm thinking about it a lot. It's good,

788
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 3: like I I and that wasn't I didn't normally think

789
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 3: of sex like. That wasn't something that was in my

790
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 3: regular thought process.

791
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 2: No, I feel, you.

792
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 3: Know, I'm finding myself getting hot and bothered, and I'm like, like,

793
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 3: I'll get a text message or I'll get it and

794
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, did I just feel tingled?

795
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 2: I like that though for you. Yeah, you're a human being,

796
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,479
Speaker 2: that's right, you know, And I can imagine my being

797
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 2: sick and things like that's the last thing in your mind.

798
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 2: But oh my god, we're single.

799
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 3: We're single. We're single and apparently ready to mingle.

800
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 2: Apparently, how are you doing over there on the hinge?

801
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 3: On the hinge.

802
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 2: We're up to photos and prompts. Oh yeah, yeah, she's

803
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:22,879
Speaker 2: shaking her head.

804
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 3: You're gonna have to put in non negotiables for me.

805
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 3: I put mandles like that, what's what's a what's that?

806
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: Like?

807
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 3: It was like something that you can't possibly handle. And

808
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 3: I said mandles like you know when men wear sandals.

809
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 2: Oh, mandles, it's oh sandals, non negotiadle A mandle like

810
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 2: a man sandal Like I not was that your onlyndle

811
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 2: non negotiable?

812
00:44:55,280 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 3: That's I think I said mandles and chewing like I've

813
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 3: kind of was just sarcastic and my uh and my things.

814
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 3: I wasn't taking it very seriously. But now that I've

815
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 3: talked to someone that, I was like, Okay, I'm kind

816
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 3: of into you. Now I'm like, one, do I need

817
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 3: to like actually take him more seriously because apparently it

818
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 3: can lead to something? Or do I just leave myself

819
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:22,240
Speaker 3: as being a study.

820
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 2: I don't trust anybody. How the fuck am I going

821
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 2: to do this? I don't trust anybody. I don't believe

822
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 2: anything anybody says. I'm not gonna do well on this thing.

823
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,280
Speaker 2: I'm just not. I just I am too fucking jaded

824
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:42,399
Speaker 2: and just you know, no you have to.

825
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 3: I mean, well, then don't but like have fun with

826
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 3: it for your Well, yes.

827
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have fun with but yeah, no, I can

828
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 2: have fun with it. I'm just saying, like I know me,

829
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 2: I'll be like, a that's impossible.

830
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 3: Well, but also that's all you know, I do that

831
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 3: ship too, Like I'll get compliments or I'll get somebody like,

832
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 3: oh you know you're so second. I'm like, oh, what now, Like,

833
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 3: I can't it's very hard to accept a compliment.

834
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 2: But no, I can do that all day long.

835
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 3: So what is like, Okay, what's the craziest place you've

836
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 3: ever had? We filmed this on Beverly Hills and they

837
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 3: never aired it. But where it's the craziest place you've

838
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:24,879
Speaker 3: ever had?

839
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 2: Seed? I told you in the hospital when I had

840
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:27,720
Speaker 2: a head injury.

841
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we both were hospitalized, yes, yeah, yeah, I forgot.

842
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 3: Why did they never air that?

843
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 2: That was they used to make us say all their

844
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 2: ship and then they never yeah hospital.

845
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, both of us for hospital.

846
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 2: That's where hospitalized. Yeah?

847
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 3: For me, it was you know.

848
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 2: Are you into dating doctors, lawyers, businessmen? What? What's what's

849
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 2: up with the old career?

850
00:46:55,000 --> 00:47:00,760
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not really into like an I'm a fiver,

851
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 3: I would say, because one, I don't like to do

852
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 3: things late at night. Like I don't want somebody that's

853
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,919
Speaker 3: like I'm mortal author shovery single day and I'm there

854
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 3: from seven am till seven pm. And this is just

855
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 3: like No, I want somebody that's their own boss and

856
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 3: coming out like there's a little bit of freedom in

857
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 3: their life because I I mean, look, I regardless like

858
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 3: I can do my job from anywhere. I'm sitting in

859
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 3: this fucking camper right now doing it.

860
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 2: Right now, I'm doing my job in this corporate apartment

861
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 2: in Broadway doing it.

862
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 3: They Yeah, you see what I'm saying. We have jobs

863
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 3: we can do that. There are certain people that their

864
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,320
Speaker 3: professions do not lead to that. Like if you're an accountant,

865
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 3: I think you like, do what accountant things do? I

866
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 3: don't know. I don't I'm not necessarily into an accountant.

867
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I don't know. You know.

868
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 2: I think I'll just have to see how it goes.

869
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 2: I just have to see how it goes well.

870
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 3: The last person and that you were with a month

871
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 3: ago that you haven't told me about, which I'm a

872
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 3: little bit irritated, is that a repeat person? Is that

873
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 3: a repeat person or is this a freshie?

874
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 2: It's not a new person. Hold no, it's not a

875
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 2: new no. No, but it's not who I No, okay,

876
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 2: not at all. No, no, no, no, no, this is

877
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 2: not a new person I've been seeing. It's not like

878
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 2: four weeks.

879
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 3: Fine, fine, okay, then what's the what's the rule? You

880
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 3: know now that we're new into the swimming of things

881
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 3: like what happens with like condoms and like all of

882
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,280
Speaker 3: that stuff, like what goes down here? What what's the sitch?

883
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 2: I don't really know. I mean I think that you

884
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 2: should have safe sex, like, don't be stupid, but I'm

885
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 2: probably safe sex is you should be paramount, should be

886
00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 2: up top.

887
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 3: But yeah, but what do I tell like should I

888
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 3: just start texting people before you know, we go out

889
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 3: after a couple of times and be like, hey, I'm

890
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 3: allergic to latex. So if you're thinking, are you really

891
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 3: don't remember my eyelashes? I can't have big eyelashes.

892
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 2: With eyelash eyelash glue and condoms are different latexes.

893
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 3: No, I can assure you with one hundred percent your

894
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 3: latex condom is a problem for me.

895
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 2: It has to be text Well, then why don't you

896
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 2: keep your own condoms that you like? And then that

897
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:33,800
Speaker 2: way if you decid because it's going to be your choice.

898
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 3: I mean, it doesn't that seem a little bit like

899
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 3: this is what I'm doing my Tuesday nights. I'm wrapping

900
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 3: it up and let's go.

901
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 2: Well, nobody has to know. I mean, if you get

902
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,399
Speaker 2: down to the moment and it is what it is,

903
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 2: you can just be a girl scout and be like,

904
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 2: I've got my own protections, So how about that? And

905
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 2: it's customer is what I'm.

906
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:00,399
Speaker 3: Like bright Red even discussing the thought this.

907
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 2: Yes, but you're not You're going to have to do

908
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 2: this and you're going to have to just accept that

909
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 2: this is where we are in life.

910
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:12,879
Speaker 3: What is the best way that you have an orgasm?

911
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 2: What do you mean like penetrast, penetrative? Yeah, I do

912
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 2: it all.

913
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:20,240
Speaker 3: Are you inner outer? You can do both?

914
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 2: Do both? I've trained my interesting things, not necessarily.

915
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like we just need to use this

916
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:35,760
Speaker 3: interview as your hinge profile and then any issues.

917
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, that'll get all the wrong people. No, but I

918
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 2: think that No, you know, getting to know your body

919
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 2: and something like that, especially when you're like my age,

920
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 2: it's like it's it's a different vibe, you know. Yeah,

921
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 2: I'm pretty comfortable with myself, and I know why I'm more.

922
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,760
Speaker 3: Comfortable with myself now than I was ten years.

923
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 2: Ago, because you're feel comfortable in your own skin all

924
00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:00,080
Speaker 2: the way around. I feel as if you you know,

925
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm at this place in my life

926
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 2: like it is what it is, due, it is what

927
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 2: it is. Yeah, it just it is what it is.

928
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 2: This is who I am, This is what I have

929
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 2: going on, This is what I do for a living,

930
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 2: this is what I don't do, this is what I've

931
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 2: been through. You know, I can't you know, I'm going

932
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 2: to sugarcoating our shit at this point, I know for whom,

933
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 2: for what? I know?

934
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 3: Like you're going to figure it out anyway. Can we

935
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:31,760
Speaker 3: talk a little bit about Brookshields. Did you hear about

936
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 3: her interview where she got about her Yeah, accidental vaginal rejuvenation.

937
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 3: You know, I wouldn't mind to get an accidental vaginal rejuvenation.

938
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,840
Speaker 2: What was her story? She went for a procedure and

939
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 2: they did something added, Yeah, like.

940
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,800
Speaker 3: I don't know what the procedure was. Maybe she was paying.

941
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 3: I don't actually fully know the story, but there's clips

942
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 3: everywhere about it. But she was very open about her

943
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 3: sex life and what she was into. And I guess

944
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 3: she went in to get something done. My guess is

945
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 3: something and like, you know, I jump on a trampoline,

946
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 3: I'm gonna pee Like that's right. Yeah, So my guess

947
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 3: is that she went in to get Oh no, I

948
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 3: think what happened was I think she went in to

949
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 3: get the esthetics cleaned up a bit, and then they

950
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 3: went in and like tightened without her. No, He's like,

951
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 3: oh yeah, she elected to go. Oh yeah, that's what

952
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 3: it is. She elected to undergo a labia reduction eight

953
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 3: years after the birth of her youngest daughter, and then

954
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:42,720
Speaker 3: following the procedure, the doctor told her he had thrown

955
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:47,359
Speaker 3: in a bonus rejuvenation. So, I mean, I wonder if

956
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 3: it's a good or bad thing. But so like a

957
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 3: laby reduction, I mean, women either have anys or outis.

958
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 3: We got to be clear, you know, I always talk

959
00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 3: about this. I'm obsessed with knowing the ratio because like

960
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 3: I really want to know what the ratio is.

961
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 2: I'll send your picten.

962
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 3: But are you one hundred percent close clamshell? You mean yeah,

963
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:15,399
Speaker 3: so you're one hundred percent any Yeah, m hm, that's

964
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 3: so nice for you.

965
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's good. That's good. It's good. Yeah, that's how

966
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 2: I was born.

967
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, mine is not Mine isn't like a RBF or RBC.

968
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 3: But it's not an army RBC roast beef curtain. I

969
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 3: did not have that.

970
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, right, you don't have the meat curtains.

971
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 3: I don't have a meat curtain. But I'm not one

972
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 3: hundred percent close clamshell.

973
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 2: I'm a closed clamshell.

974
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 3: I wonder what is it a genetic thing, because it

975
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 3: has to.

976
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 2: Be that's just how I think, it's just how you're born.

977
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 2: I think it's just you know, it is what it is.

978
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:03,800
Speaker 3: Do you have better orgasms with circumcised or uncircumcised penises?

979
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 2: I prefer circumcised penises, but I that's not saying, uh,

980
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:10,879
Speaker 2: you know, there's a lot of Europeans. I mean they

981
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 2: have a hood on and they're hot, So I really

982
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:15,240
Speaker 2: don't care.

983
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 3: If I mean we're talking about I mean people have

984
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 3: been married to not using if you're using a condom,

985
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:22,959
Speaker 3: I don't.

986
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 2: I don't know.

987
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 3: But the majority of the humans in my past sex life,

988
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 3: I had a very hard time having an orgasm with

989
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 3: a circumcised penis.

990
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:35,800
Speaker 2: Oh I don't.

991
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know. Now I've got to learn something.

992
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 2: You've got to learn some things. No, I have no problem, but.

993
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 3: Like everyone in my family is like that was like,

994
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 3: are you know my my brothers aren't my husband was.

995
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 2: I remember when my son was born, they asked me

996
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 2: do you want to circumcise them or not? And I

997
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 2: said yes, is that you know.

998
00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:00,720
Speaker 3: I was surprised that Edwin wanted to circumcise Crew because

999
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 3: he's not. And my dad was very like steadfast about

1000
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:11,800
Speaker 3: not having my brother circumcised because he's not, and andone

1001
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 3: was like, Nope, let's do it. And yeah, so you know,

1002
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 3: it is what it is. I don't think it necessarily

1003
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 3: makes a difference. Maybe it's just the people not the penis.

1004
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 3: Do you think size matters?

1005
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:31,320
Speaker 2: Yes? I do you do? Yeah? Do you think size matters?

1006
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:37,479
Speaker 3: I think if they're like super thin, that's I don't

1007
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:40,240
Speaker 3: need it to be like ginormous by.

1008
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 2: Any what I asked, I said.

1009
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 3: If they're thin, yes, it matters. Yeah, the girth matters

1010
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 3: more than the length.

1011
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 2: In my opinion, I think it all matters.

1012
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 3: Do you think it all matters? And do you do

1013
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 3: you have better ones on top or on bottom or

1014
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 3: on reverse cowgirl?

1015
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:04,760
Speaker 2: I don't like reverse cowgirl. I think it hurts sometimes

1016
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 2: me too. Why it's not like it's it's flexing down. Yeah,

1017
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 2: I don't like. That's not my favorite.

1018
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 3: So but what's your favorite thing?

1019
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 2: Well it kind of depends what mood I mean, so

1020
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 2: probably I don't know. I like them both like I

1021
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 2: like on top of it on bottom. I mean I

1022
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 2: can have can orgasm either way. What about that?

1023
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 6: For me?

1024
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 3: I I will it's hard for me to orgasm on bottom. Oh,

1025
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 3: I prefer on top, but there like has to be

1026
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 3: a certain method, like I have to be on top

1027
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 3: and they have to like almost arch their backs so

1028
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 3: that like I know that there's like a muscle or

1029
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 3: something that pushes up. Yeah, of course if that doesn't happen,

1030
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 3: like but also for me, it's my mind, like if

1031
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 3: my mind isn't.

1032
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:56,959
Speaker 2: That's what doctor B just said, yeah, saying like.

1033
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 3: If I I have to like really be in that

1034
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 3: or it's all that.

1035
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 2: Are you sober during sex? Do you like to have

1036
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 2: a cocktail or what?

1037
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:10,319
Speaker 3: Or I mean I am open to either. I would

1038
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:13,799
Speaker 3: say I'm probably more wild after a cocktail because I.

1039
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:15,240
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, for sure, for sure.

1040
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 3: But no, I mean having orgasms. It doesn't matter if

1041
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 3: I've had a cocktail or not had a cocktail. It's

1042
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 3: really like my mindset. But no, I'm definitely probably more

1043
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 3: vocal and more you know, it's like filming a housewife show.

1044
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 3: I'm gonna probably say all all the things, do all.

1045
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 2: The good things, do all the good things.

1046
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh, but yeah.

1047
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 2: I'm excited for I gotta pick listen, no, I gotta

1048
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 2: so the next stages on my hinge over here, we

1049
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 2: have to pick the pictures and maybe I'll send you

1050
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 2: some and ask you what you think perfect.

1051
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 3: And then maybe the next time we're in person on

1052
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 3: the pod, we can go through and select who is

1053
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 3: welcome to.

1054
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 2: Get on my hinge anytime, and I will you know what,

1055
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:00,120
Speaker 2: let's exchange.

1056
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 3: Oh, that's what we need to do and pick and

1057
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 3: do something.

1058
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 2: We'll do it. We'll do it live. We'll exchange phones.

1059
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 2: I'll be home in a couple of weeks. We'll exchange phones,

1060
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 2: and then we'll just go.

1061
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 3: It's perfect, all right, Well I expect this to be done, Lie,

1062
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 3: I'm going to put it on the group chat.

1063
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 2: You we'll do it. We're doing it right now. We're

1064
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 2: trying to just get it, get it. You know, I

1065
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 2: got to pick some pictures that make me look normal

1066
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 2: and that make me look insane.

1067
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 3: Well, you know, then then don't pick one of your

1068
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:30,479
Speaker 3: confessional shock.

1069
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 2: I know, I know, I listen, I've already been. I

1070
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 2: don't know that we have anything for this. Do we

1071
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 2: have normal pictures?

1072
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 3: I said, thinking of some of your looks that you

1073
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 3: could put on.

1074
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 2: There and oh no, that's run them right off the pet.

1075
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 2: That's if we wanted to date gay men. I know

1076
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 2: exactly what to put on my profile. But if we

1077
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:55,959
Speaker 2: want these straits to answer, we're not going to be.

1078
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 3: Should we put on that red latex out that you

1079
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 3: reamed me out in?

1080
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's real hit. Listen, my text is a king,

1081
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:07,959
Speaker 2: you know, I know somebody that's into late text.

1082
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Speaker 3: But isn't it hard to get on and off?

1083
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 2: Like? What are you going to do?

1084
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 3: Kind a hole down there?

1085
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 2: That was just the top so and I think you know,

1086
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 2: it's just it's just a baby powder inside so that

1087
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 2: you just don't stick to it.

1088
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 3: Should Erica knows that I don't. Well, you guys pretty much,

1089
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 3: if you've listened to this pod and you had the

1090
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 3: opportunity to have sex on one of them, you're probably

1091
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 3: going to have more fun with Erica.

1092
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 2: That's not true. Teddy is just trying to make it

1093
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 2: out like she's not wild. I happen to know who

1094
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 2: she is, which is why we do this pod together

1095
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 2: because I know who she is. So there's that.

1096
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 3: I'm sure that we need to probably do another one.

1097
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 3: Of these in six months after I've had a little

1098
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 3: bit more practice, and then.

1099
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:52,920
Speaker 2: Girl, you're going to outpace me. I'm telling you, nobody's

1100
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 2: going to hit me up on this thing.

1101
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 3: Do we keep like a little journal?

1102
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 2: We should we should keep we should keep analytics or

1103
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 2: staff ats or whatever they call them. You know how

1104
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 2: they always show us, like write a growth chart to

1105
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 2: see what our our analytics are, our.

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01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 3: Our strong months.

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Speaker 2: Right, all right, I love you, miss miss you too.

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Speaker 3: Kicking ass.

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01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 2: Thanks, all right, Bye bye, honey,