Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome to a special edition of Amy
Speaker 1: and TJ. We are coming to you with some sad,
Speaker 1: some breaking news that the thirty ninth President of the
Speaker 1: United States, the longest living president here in this country,
Speaker 1: Jimmy Carter, has died at the age of one hundred.
Speaker 1: It happened around three forty five pm on Sunday afternoon
Speaker 1: at his home in Plains, Georgia, and so many people
Speaker 1: are now reflecting and remembering a president that so many
Speaker 1: said was the best former president this country has ever had.
Speaker 2: That's almost the leading line in everything you read about
Speaker 2: him and everything that folks say about him. And it's true.
Speaker 2: He is the I don't think there's any argument about that,
Speaker 2: but to the point that people almost forget his presidency.
Speaker 2: But it's tough to you always mourn than someone's passing.
Speaker 2: But man, if there's anybody with a life worth celebrating,
Speaker 2: it's this guy. You hear about his passing, you before
Speaker 2: you get sad, you almost smile a little and go
Speaker 2: oh uh, like wow, what a sweet guy. A sweet life,
Speaker 2: a sweet story, and almost even a sweet death to
Speaker 2: a certain degree. At his home planes Georgia at one hundred.
Speaker 2: He made it to one hundred. I mean, what a life.
Speaker 2: It's incredible.
Speaker 1: It is incredible. It is incredible. And you know we
Speaker 1: were talking about this. Anyone who has worked in a newsroom,
Speaker 1: and we've certainly been a newsroom since the mid nineties
Speaker 1: already had a Jimmy Carter oh bit ready to go.
Speaker 1: And I have never recalled more moments thinking someone had
Speaker 1: died or was about to die or could die than
Speaker 1: being ready and prepared for Jimmy Carter's passing.
Speaker 3: And yet it never happened. I mean, think about it.
Speaker 3: Even recently in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1: He had a fall and that so my grandpa, it
Speaker 1: happened to him. When you get to a certain ager
Speaker 1: in your nineties, you fall, you break your hip, that's it.
Speaker 3: No, he kept going.
Speaker 1: And then four years before that, I think everyone remembers,
Speaker 1: he had liver cancer. Then he was diagnosed with metastatic
Speaker 1: melanoma that had spread to his brain.
Speaker 2: He thought that was gonna be.
Speaker 1: It, right, I mean, he was at that point in
Speaker 1: his nineties again. So and then months later he announced
Speaker 1: he was cancer free and no longer needed treatment because
Speaker 1: of a new type of cancer therapy. Here's the other
Speaker 1: remarkable thing. He has been in hospice care since February
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty three, so almost for two years. That
Speaker 1: is remarkable, and saw the passing of his beloved wife
Speaker 1: of seventy seven years, almost a year ago. Actually it
Speaker 1: was November nineteenth, twenty twenty three that Rosalind passed, and
Speaker 1: at her funeral, if we remember seeing him, he was weakened,
Speaker 1: he was feeble, he was in a wheelchair. He couldn't
Speaker 1: even speak, or chose not to. His daughter Amy read
Speaker 1: a letter that he had written to her seventy five
Speaker 1: years ago while he was in the Navy on his behalf,
Speaker 1: and it was moving and beautiful, but he was in
Speaker 1: such poor shape. I think a lot of us thought, well,
Speaker 1: now that Rosalind's gone and all of he's still he
Speaker 1: lasted a full year plus.
Speaker 2: It sounds morbid, but this happens in every single newsroom
Speaker 2: you step in. There are folks. I think Queen Elizabeth
Speaker 2: is one person that there has been no bit in
Speaker 2: every newsroom ready to go for decades, literally decades. I'm
Speaker 2: sure they have them for the King now ready to go.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just what happens when folks get of
Speaker 2: that age, and you know, it's going to be a
Speaker 2: big story when they pass, So this is one that
Speaker 2: he was holding on. Jimmy Carter would not.
Speaker 3: Go yes, and then you had to keep updating.
Speaker 1: So I was one of the people who had to
Speaker 1: read and record these obituaries in anticipation of someone's passing.
Speaker 1: And so I fully remember reading Jimmy Carter's obituary or
Speaker 1: reading it into a microphone to be recorded ten years ago,
Speaker 1: fifteen years ago, and certainly recently people were thinking it
Speaker 1: was going to happen soon. So this is a guy
Speaker 1: who I think it's been incredible to see him continue
Speaker 1: on and continue on strong. His grandson actually talked about
Speaker 1: how Jimmy was. It's weird to say Jimmy Jimmy Carter.
Speaker 1: President Carter was even in the last few years, and
Speaker 1: while in hospice, his grandson Jason said that Jimmy Carter
Speaker 1: remained mentally and emotionally engaged in what was going on
Speaker 1: around him. And in the news we got word that
Speaker 1: he voted in this past election, just after turning one
Speaker 1: hundred for Vice President Kamala Harris.
Speaker 3: He did it by mail.
Speaker 1: He didn't actually go into a voting booth, but he
Speaker 1: was emotionally intellectually engaged in the world.
Speaker 2: You know, well, I'm trying to think of stories, but
Speaker 2: we didn't hear any ever coming out because we saw
Speaker 2: him active even in his nineties about him having any
Speaker 2: type of mental decline. No, he was active around the
Speaker 2: world literally and engaged in conflict resolution or election fairness.
Speaker 2: He was engaged. And I'm trying it. I'm stopping for
Speaker 2: a moment, but we did not have those reports about him.
Speaker 2: So to hear his family say that about him, I
Speaker 2: guess makes sense.
Speaker 3: It's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: And I was you know, you said earlier when we
Speaker 1: started the podcast about him, that you, even though you
Speaker 1: know he's passed, you still feel like you want a smile,
Speaker 1: that he brings a smile to your face thinking about
Speaker 1: how he lived his life. And there are a lot
Speaker 1: of things we think of when we think of Jimmy Carter,
Speaker 1: but I for me, maybe this is the emotional woman
Speaker 1: in me, but the one I remember the story that
Speaker 1: I think stands out so much, even beyond all of
Speaker 1: his incredible political achievements. And he's a Nobel Peace Prize winner,
Speaker 1: just one of four US presidents ever to have that honor,
Speaker 1: so obviously he's accomplished so much professionally. But I think
Speaker 1: of the love story. I think of the love story
Speaker 1: between him and Rosalind, and I just think sometimes we
Speaker 1: need those types of stories to speak when things feel bleak.
Speaker 3: And I was reading.
Speaker 1: Part of I mentioned it earlier, the letter that his
Speaker 1: daughter Amy read, that he wrote to her while he
Speaker 1: was serving in the navy. We were learning about him
Speaker 1: as we were going back into his history seven years
Speaker 1: as a naval officer, and.
Speaker 2: I forgot a lot of that served the second nuclear
Speaker 2: submarine in the US history.
Speaker 1: What if you forget all of the early daring things
Speaker 1: that some of these great men have done, and Jimmy
Speaker 1: Carter is among them.
Speaker 3: But while he was in service, he wrote, Can I just.
Speaker 1: Read a little bit of the letter that Amy read,
Speaker 1: because this just just makes me so happy. This is
Speaker 1: Jimmy Carter to his wife Rosalind, while he was serving
Speaker 1: in the navy. My darling, every time I have ever
Speaker 1: been away from you, I have been thrilled when I
Speaker 1: returned to discover just how wonderful you are. While I
Speaker 1: am away, I try to convince myself that you really
Speaker 1: are not could not be as sweet and beautiful as
Speaker 1: I remember. But when I see you, I fall in
Speaker 1: love with you all over again.
Speaker 2: Wow. Okay, that's good.
Speaker 3: That's amazing.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's good.
Speaker 1: That is so sweet, And it's been pretty cool not
Speaker 1: He's survived by his four children. They had four children together,
Speaker 1: John who was Jack Chip, Jeff, and their daughter Amy,
Speaker 1: who I think we all remember being in the White House.
Speaker 3: I remember seeing her so much in all the news coverage.
Speaker 1: But he also had eleven grandchildren, fourteen great grand children.
Speaker 1: And I just love that the love story between him
Speaker 1: and Rosalind was, yes for us all to witness, but
Speaker 1: for them to benefit from it. It's just it was
Speaker 1: a huge, beautiful part of his incredible story that I've
Speaker 1: had a lot of. I've actually enjoyed getting to know
Speaker 1: him even more reading about all that he accomplished in
Speaker 1: his life.
Speaker 2: You stop folks on the street these days, I mean,
Speaker 2: how much can you can folks tell you about his
Speaker 2: presidency versus what they can tell you about his life.
Speaker 2: I guess he had forty plus years outside of I mean,
Speaker 2: he was a fairly young guy when he left the
Speaker 2: White House mid fifties. I think it was that's a
Speaker 2: lot of life. Yeah, and he did a lot with
Speaker 2: it afterwards. That's he is known as a as not.
Speaker 2: I don't know. What can you tell me about his presidency.
Speaker 2: We can tell you about some of the failures and
Speaker 2: why he might have left the White House is yes,
Speaker 2: I can tell you about elections. I can tell you
Speaker 2: about conflict resolution. I can tell you about disease eradication. Right,
Speaker 2: all these things I know I can see him doing
Speaker 2: after his presidency.
Speaker 3: You know what's cool. I think so much of our.
Speaker 1: Disdain or even just I don't know, you're just not
Speaker 1: into politics because of politicians, right, they aren't what they seem.
Speaker 1: They're in it for the power and the greed and
Speaker 1: the career. He wasn't in it for any of those things.
Speaker 1: And I think everyone can agree he was there for
Speaker 1: all the right reasons. So, yes, he might have had
Speaker 1: an average one term presidency. But to your point, he
Speaker 1: did so much with that platform beyond the presidency that
Speaker 1: is remarkable. I mean, I did find out.
Speaker 3: I don't. I'm kind of embarrassed to admit this.
Speaker 1: I didn't realize that while he was president, several of
Speaker 1: his victories included establishing the Department of Education, which we'll
Speaker 1: see what happens with Trump because He's talked about completely
Speaker 1: disassembling the Department of Education, so that would be an
Speaker 1: interesting moment, and then also the Department of Energy.
Speaker 3: I think a lot of.
Speaker 1: Us who are a certain age remember his probably his
Speaker 1: most notable achievement the Camp David Accords. He broke with
Speaker 1: the deal between Israel and Egypt that led to Egypt
Speaker 1: Israel peace treaty the following year. So that was kind
Speaker 1: of the big, big notch in his belt. But then conversely,
Speaker 1: the Iran hostage crisis pretty much ended his presidency. It's
Speaker 1: the reason, one of the many reasons, but probably the
Speaker 1: biggest reason why he was not re elected.
Speaker 2: You hit on something great there at the beginning about
Speaker 2: how he's viewed. If you watched him in his life
Speaker 2: after he left the White House, you would never look
Speaker 2: at that guy and think he was a Democrat, former Republican,
Speaker 2: or a former Democratic president. He was a former president.
Speaker 2: And when you start viewing people as human beings and
Speaker 2: just as humanitarians and just as I don't know, as
Speaker 2: people who aren't on one side or the other, maybe
Speaker 2: you start to get viewed differently. But yeah, he wasn't
Speaker 2: partisan once he left the White House.
Speaker 3: That's a really good point, and.
Speaker 1: He took his platform and created the Carter Presidential Center.
Speaker 1: That was in nineteen eighty two, and that is what
Speaker 1: ultimately ended up leading to his Nobel Peace Prize in
Speaker 1: two thousand and two because he took that foundation and
Speaker 1: he focused on ending conflicts, on promoting human rights and democracy,
Speaker 1: youth at, preventing disease, all of those things. He volunteered
Speaker 1: to mediate disputes between the US and North Korea and Libya.
Speaker 1: He all remembered Sorry Habitat for Humanity in nineteen eighty four,
Speaker 1: that's an Atlanta based organization. He and Rosalind joined that
Speaker 1: and were huge advocates and supporters of that organization.
Speaker 3: So his life was truly of service.
Speaker 1: Also interesting, I didn't know this. In between his seven
Speaker 1: years as a naval officer and entering politics in nineteen
Speaker 1: sixty two, he was a two term state senator. He
Speaker 1: for eight years was simply a farmer. He was he
Speaker 1: worked his family farm, the peanut farm in plains, Georgia, Maya.
Speaker 2: I don't know why I remember this story, my mom
Speaker 2: telling me this story about everybody, the election happening, whatever
Speaker 2: year that was, seventy seventy sixty six, she said, Yeah,
Speaker 2: we all went to bed one night and woke up
Speaker 2: and said, who's president. It was such a surprise. It's
Speaker 2: peanut farmer from Georgia is now the president of the
Speaker 2: United States. I always remember being funny as a kid
Speaker 2: telling me that story.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you were born in nineteen seventy seven. So
Speaker 1: the president that was the current president was Jimmy Carter.
Speaker 3: When and I remember, oh, my brother and I.
Speaker 1: Used to imitate Jimmy Carter from Georgia, the peanut farmer,
Speaker 1: like we would try to do his accent.
Speaker 3: And I mean I remember doing that as.
Speaker 1: A good and you know, we would we would put
Speaker 1: up the peace side peace because even then, as a
Speaker 1: little kid, I knew that Jimmy Carter stood for peace.
Speaker 1: It's it's kind of funny, but I have such a
Speaker 1: memory of that, and it's something he stood for his
Speaker 1: entire life. It wasn't just in the moment. It wasn't
Speaker 1: just to win an election, which is pretty cool. Also,
Speaker 1: I was looking this up and I think the numbers
Speaker 1: we right. He wrote and I want to say at
Speaker 1: least but he wrote thirty two books. From what I
Speaker 1: can gather.
Speaker 2: It's impressive.
Speaker 3: Thirty two books.
Speaker 1: They range from his political philosophy to his deep faith.
Speaker 1: He was a Christian man, he actually was born again
Speaker 1: a Christian, and a.
Speaker 3: Book all about his mother. I mean, he he had
Speaker 3: so much to say.
Speaker 1: And the cool thing is that it lives on, you know,
Speaker 1: not just in his family, but in his words and
Speaker 1: in his books and all thirty two of them.
Speaker 3: Apparently that's a lot of writing.
Speaker 2: That's so important. And again it's we we're so aware
Speaker 2: of him in news stories when he pops up here
Speaker 2: or there, there's a birthday, or he does something daring,
Speaker 2: or he's somewhere around the world. But it has been
Speaker 2: interesting and just reading up on him and you go, oh, oh,
Speaker 2: that's right. Oh I forgot about that. Oh I didn't
Speaker 2: know that, And that's a lot of that is has
Speaker 2: been interesting. I forgot completely even that he was a
Speaker 2: naval officer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know that I knew he was.
Speaker 2: Forgot that completely right. And how he made his way
Speaker 2: up through the ranks, and how he had one career
Speaker 2: kind of derailed, if you will, because his father passed
Speaker 2: and he went back to run the family peanut farms.
Speaker 1: Pretty remarkable. That's a huge He was a peanut farmer.
Speaker 1: I said he was the son of a peanut farmer,
Speaker 1: but he actually became a peanut farmer himself, in between
Speaker 1: a storied naval career and a pretty incredible political career
Speaker 1: that he rose very quickly. You know, it's funny. I
Speaker 1: met him one time in my life. I was in
Speaker 1: my second year at w CBD TV two Action News
Speaker 1: in Charleston, South Carolina, and he came in. He was actually,
Speaker 1: I think, being interviewed by I actually think it was
Speaker 1: Good Morning America. We were the ABC affiliate, so he
Speaker 1: just used our studios to do the talk back, and
Speaker 1: everybody was so excited, and we didn't have phones back then,
Speaker 1: but we had cameras and people were getting pictures taken
Speaker 1: with him, and I didn't want to bother him. I
Speaker 1: shook his hand, I met him, but I so badly
Speaker 1: wanted to get a picture, but then I just didn't
Speaker 1: want to add to him feeling overwhelmed, so I didn't
Speaker 1: get one. And I it's always one of those moments
Speaker 1: where like I wish I had, Like I just didn't
Speaker 1: want to bother him, but and I think maybe if
Speaker 1: I had had a phone and you could do a selfie,
Speaker 1: it would have been easier, but I just felt like
Speaker 1: I didn't want to join in on the line waiting
Speaker 1: to get a picture with him.
Speaker 2: Don't feel that way. You You have a story to tell,
Speaker 2: you have an experience to tell, and reducing Yule's relationship
Speaker 2: just a photo would have changed the dynamic and change
Speaker 2: the story.
Speaker 3: That's true.
Speaker 1: And I remember watching him be so kind and so patient,
Speaker 1: and that's why I was like, oh, I don't want
Speaker 1: to add to but I remember thinking how I mean,
Speaker 1: he was an older man, like, Wow, he's getting up there.
Speaker 3: And to think that now, I mean that was seriously
Speaker 3: almost thirty years ago.
Speaker 1: He was in his like mid or late seventies, and
Speaker 1: I thought, oh, you know, he's getting up there.
Speaker 4: If you had told me, hey, Amy, in thirty years,
Speaker 4: he's still going to be around, like what you got,
Speaker 4: it's remarkable remark because to think that I was that
Speaker 4: young and thought he was that old and he just
Speaker 4: now passed, that's a pretty dang good life.
Speaker 2: I don't know what his his regimen was, what his yea,
Speaker 2: his diet was. I don't know if he's ever put
Speaker 2: that out. I mean just maybe it's just good jeans.
Speaker 2: Who knows what it is? Or just good living, or
Speaker 2: maybe the Good Lord said we need this one to
Speaker 2: stick around for a while because he's doing good. Who knows. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but that dude and his wife, what a year Yeah apart,
Speaker 2: she was ninety.
Speaker 1: Six, she was ninety six, I believe, Yes, unbelievable. That's
Speaker 1: a sweet, amazing life. You don't hear about love stories
Speaker 1: and lives like that. And yeah, they are together now.
Speaker 1: I love thinking about that. We were also getting we
Speaker 1: want to mention a lot of reaction, as you might imagine,
Speaker 1: from former presidents, but even the current one, President Joe Biden,
Speaker 1: and we were going to read a couple of the
Speaker 1: some of the really lovely words that we're hearing from
Speaker 1: our leaders about the passing of Jimmy Carter. So I'll
Speaker 1: start with President Biden. He says, today America and the
Speaker 1: world lost an extraordinary leader, statesman, and humanitarian. Over six decades,
Speaker 1: we had the honor of calling Jimmy Carter a dear friend.
Speaker 1: But what's extraordinary about Jimmy Carter, though, is that millions
Speaker 1: of people throughout America and the world who never met
Speaker 1: him thought of him as a dear friend as well.
Speaker 1: I think that is so true, and I was going
Speaker 1: to skip down to the end of this because I
Speaker 1: thought this was really sweet. He said, to all of
Speaker 1: the young people in this nation, and for anyone in
Speaker 1: search of what it means to live a life of
Speaker 1: purpose and meaning, the good life, study Jimmy Carter, a
Speaker 1: man of principal faith and humility. He showed that we
Speaker 1: are a great nation because we are a good people,
Speaker 1: decent and honorable, courageous and compassionate, humble and strong. And
Speaker 1: President Biden said, he let a few of.
Speaker 3: The details out.
Speaker 1: He's going to be ordering an official state funeral. It'll
Speaker 1: be held in Washington, d c. For Jimmy Carter, who
Speaker 1: he says, he called I love that he gave all
Speaker 1: of his titles. I'm gonna read them because the're really cool.
Speaker 1: Thirty ninth President of the United States, seventy sixth Governor
Speaker 1: of Georgia, Lieutenant of the United States Navy, graduate of
Speaker 1: the United States Naval Academy, and favorite son of Plains Georgia,
Speaker 1: who gave his full life in service to God and country.
Speaker 3: That chokes me up even to hear that. And that's
Speaker 3: that was beautiful.
Speaker 2: That's really really well said yeah by President President Biden.
Speaker 2: A lot of the you know a lot of I
Speaker 2: was reading here from former President George W. Bush and
Speaker 2: it kind of went in line. I'm not going to
Speaker 2: read this whole thing here, but I'll pluck this line out,
Speaker 2: and it said he was a man of deeply held convictions.
Speaker 2: He was loyal to his family, his community, and his country.
Speaker 2: And this is the part I love ropes. He said,
Speaker 2: President Carter dignified the office. Wow, and his efforts to
Speaker 2: leave behind a better world didn't end with the presidency.
Speaker 2: That's awesome to hear that he dignified the office.
Speaker 3: That just gave me chills to hear that. That is
Speaker 3: really cool. That's beautiful.
Speaker 1: We're also hearing from President Bill Clinton. He talked about
Speaker 1: how he and Hillary were warning the passing of President
Speaker 1: Jimmy Carter. He mentioned, this is what President Clinton said,
Speaker 1: from his commitment to civil rights as a state senator
Speaker 1: and governor of Georgia, to his efforts as president to
Speaker 1: protect our natural resources in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge,
Speaker 1: make energy conservation and national priority, return the Panama Canal
Speaker 1: to Panama, secure peace between injured in Israel, to his
Speaker 1: post presidential efforts at the Carter Center, supporting honest elections,
Speaker 1: advancing peace, combating disease, promoting democracy. I mean, he just
Speaker 1: goes on and on to list all of the things
Speaker 1: that Jimmy Carter did to make this country and this
Speaker 1: world a better place. Also mentions about how he was
Speaker 1: proud to have presented the Middle of Freedom to President
Speaker 1: Carter and Rosalind in nineteen ninety nine. I hadn't realized
Speaker 1: that either, But cool that President Clinton mentioned that as well.
Speaker 2: You know, there's a I'm reading through what the Obama's
Speaker 2: their statement, and it's very personal and it's a longer reading,
Speaker 2: and they kind of weave through a story that lands
Speaker 2: on this President Carter's decency, right, And I guess that's
Speaker 2: I know, people say nice things about people after they passed, right,
Speaker 2: But it seems like there's a theme that to this guy,
Speaker 2: and to a certainly to a politician, that's it stands out.
Speaker 2: So that's really kind of cool to see. And he
Speaker 2: ended up in office because of scandal. He was one
Speaker 2: that was helping to get our moral.
Speaker 3: Balance after the Watergate scandal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's it's just to see now people talk
Speaker 2: about him in this way. Is it's kind of cool?
Speaker 2: Now we have to mention that President elect Trump, but
Speaker 2: out of statements as well, it has some Trump.
Speaker 1: Yes here, I've got it actually right in front of me.
Speaker 1: He said, this is quoting President elect Trump. I just
Speaker 1: heard of the news about the passing of President Jimmy Carter.
Speaker 1: Those of us who have been fortunate to have served
Speaker 1: as president understand this is a very exclusive club and
Speaker 1: only we can relate to the enormous responsibility of leading
Speaker 1: the greatest nation in history. He does go on to
Speaker 1: talk about President Carter here now. Next, he says, the
Speaker 1: challenges Jimmy faced as president came at a pivotal time
Speaker 1: for our country, and he did everything in his power
Speaker 1: to improve the lives of all Americans. For that, we
Speaker 1: owe him a debt of gratitude. He also just says
Speaker 1: that he and Milania are thinking of the Carter family
Speaker 1: and urges the rest of us to keep them in
Speaker 1: our hearts and prayers.
Speaker 3: He did land the plane. There was a line about
Speaker 3: President Carter in there.
Speaker 2: Look, I who know, did somebody help him craft that.
Speaker 2: Some people would say that's great that he just well
Speaker 2: Friday his own thing in the moment boomed, but it.
Speaker 3: Was authentic to the President. Electron was it not I
Speaker 3: believe it was, indeed, but I do think that the
Speaker 3: cool thing.
Speaker 1: And I hope I was telling my daughters about his passing,
Speaker 1: and they don't know a lot about him.
Speaker 3: He's not some social media star.
Speaker 1: He's certainly probably did not connect so much with some
Speaker 1: of our younger generations. But if anyone is listening, and
Speaker 1: I plan to send some links to my daughters, because
Speaker 1: we can all learn something from how Jimmy Carter lived,
Speaker 1: and not just for the fame and fortune of it,
Speaker 1: or for the power or the political power of it,
Speaker 1: but simply to do good. And I think that that
Speaker 1: was just a genuine, authentic thing about him that no
Speaker 1: one can dispute. Whether you liked his policies or not,
Speaker 1: you knew he was a decent guy.
Speaker 3: He was a good guy. He was in it for
Speaker 3: the right reasons.
Speaker 2: And it's wonderful to see him celebrate it in that way,
Speaker 2: and wonderful for him if to your point, the younger generation,
Speaker 2: your daughters can take this moment and learn anything about him.
Speaker 2: He used that office, if nothing else, he used the office.
Speaker 2: He lost that office right he was he was defeated,
Speaker 2: wasn't reelected, but he used his platform and did more
Speaker 2: out of office than he ever did in the four
Speaker 2: years he was in the White House. So let that
Speaker 2: be a lesson and a reminder to us all. But
Speaker 2: it's life worth remembering and studying and mourning and celebrating
Speaker 2: all the same time.
Speaker 1: I love that, and it's a you know, you just
Speaker 1: kind of I know we're wrapping up, but you just
Speaker 1: that definitely hit a nerve with me to know that
Speaker 1: you can lose an election.
Speaker 3: And he didn't.
Speaker 1: He didn't take that and lick his wounds and go
Speaker 1: off and no, he kept being of service, He kept
Speaker 1: showing up, he kept doing what he knew he could
Speaker 1: do to make the world a better place, and that
Speaker 1: defeat didn't define him. And I think that's so cool
Speaker 1: and something we can all take with us into this week.
Speaker 1: So thank you for being with us here on the
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