1 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome to a special edition of Amy 2 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: and TJ. We are coming to you with some sad, 3 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: some breaking news that the thirty ninth President of the 4 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: United States, the longest living president here in this country, 5 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: Jimmy Carter, has died at the age of one hundred. 6 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: It happened around three forty five pm on Sunday afternoon 7 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: at his home in Plains, Georgia, and so many people 8 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: are now reflecting and remembering a president that so many 9 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: said was the best former president this country has ever had. 10 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 2: That's almost the leading line in everything you read about 11 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 2: him and everything that folks say about him. And it's true. 12 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,599 Speaker 2: He is the I don't think there's any argument about that, 13 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 2: but to the point that people almost forget his presidency. 14 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 2: But it's tough to you always mourn than someone's passing. 15 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 2: But man, if there's anybody with a life worth celebrating, 16 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 2: it's this guy. You hear about his passing, you before 17 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 2: you get sad, you almost smile a little and go 18 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 2: oh uh, like wow, what a sweet guy. A sweet life, 19 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 2: a sweet story, and almost even a sweet death to 20 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 2: a certain degree. At his home planes Georgia at one hundred. 21 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 2: He made it to one hundred. I mean, what a life. 22 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 2: It's incredible. 23 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: It is incredible. It is incredible. And you know we 24 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: were talking about this. Anyone who has worked in a newsroom, 25 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: and we've certainly been a newsroom since the mid nineties 26 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 1: already had a Jimmy Carter oh bit ready to go. 27 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: And I have never recalled more moments thinking someone had 28 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: died or was about to die or could die than 29 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: being ready and prepared for Jimmy Carter's passing. 30 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 3: And yet it never happened. I mean, think about it. 31 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 3: Even recently in twenty nineteen. 32 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: He had a fall and that so my grandpa, it 33 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: happened to him. When you get to a certain ager 34 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: in your nineties, you fall, you break your hip, that's it. 35 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 3: No, he kept going. 36 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: And then four years before that, I think everyone remembers, 37 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 1: he had liver cancer. Then he was diagnosed with metastatic 38 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: melanoma that had spread to his brain. 39 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 2: He thought that was gonna be. 40 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: It, right, I mean, he was at that point in 41 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: his nineties again. So and then months later he announced 42 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: he was cancer free and no longer needed treatment because 43 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,119 Speaker 1: of a new type of cancer therapy. Here's the other 44 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: remarkable thing. He has been in hospice care since February 45 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty three, so almost for two years. That 46 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: is remarkable, and saw the passing of his beloved wife 47 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: of seventy seven years, almost a year ago. Actually it 48 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: was November nineteenth, twenty twenty three that Rosalind passed, and 49 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 1: at her funeral, if we remember seeing him, he was weakened, 50 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: he was feeble, he was in a wheelchair. He couldn't 51 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,959 Speaker 1: even speak, or chose not to. His daughter Amy read 52 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: a letter that he had written to her seventy five 53 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: years ago while he was in the Navy on his behalf, 54 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 1: and it was moving and beautiful, but he was in 55 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: such poor shape. I think a lot of us thought, well, 56 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: now that Rosalind's gone and all of he's still he 57 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: lasted a full year plus. 58 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 2: It sounds morbid, but this happens in every single newsroom 59 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 2: you step in. There are folks. I think Queen Elizabeth 60 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 2: is one person that there has been no bit in 61 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 2: every newsroom ready to go for decades, literally decades. I'm 62 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 2: sure they have them for the King now ready to go. 63 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 2: I mean, it's just what happens when folks get of 64 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 2: that age, and you know, it's going to be a 65 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 2: big story when they pass, So this is one that 66 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 2: he was holding on. Jimmy Carter would not. 67 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 3: Go yes, and then you had to keep updating. 68 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: So I was one of the people who had to 69 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: read and record these obituaries in anticipation of someone's passing. 70 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: And so I fully remember reading Jimmy Carter's obituary or 71 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: reading it into a microphone to be recorded ten years ago, 72 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: fifteen years ago, and certainly recently people were thinking it 73 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: was going to happen soon. So this is a guy 74 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 1: who I think it's been incredible to see him continue 75 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: on and continue on strong. His grandson actually talked about 76 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: how Jimmy was. It's weird to say Jimmy Jimmy Carter. 77 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: President Carter was even in the last few years, and 78 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 1: while in hospice, his grandson Jason said that Jimmy Carter 79 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: remained mentally and emotionally engaged in what was going on 80 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 1: around him. And in the news we got word that 81 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: he voted in this past election, just after turning one 82 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: hundred for Vice President Kamala Harris. 83 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 3: He did it by mail. 84 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: He didn't actually go into a voting booth, but he 85 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 1: was emotionally intellectually engaged in the world. 86 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 2: You know, well, I'm trying to think of stories, but 87 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 2: we didn't hear any ever coming out because we saw 88 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 2: him active even in his nineties about him having any 89 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 2: type of mental decline. No, he was active around the 90 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 2: world literally and engaged in conflict resolution or election fairness. 91 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 2: He was engaged. And I'm trying it. I'm stopping for 92 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 2: a moment, but we did not have those reports about him. 93 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 2: So to hear his family say that about him, I 94 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 2: guess makes sense. 95 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 3: It's pretty cool. 96 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: And I was you know, you said earlier when we 97 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: started the podcast about him, that you, even though you 98 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 1: know he's passed, you still feel like you want a smile, 99 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 1: that he brings a smile to your face thinking about 100 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: how he lived his life. And there are a lot 101 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: of things we think of when we think of Jimmy Carter, 102 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 1: but I for me, maybe this is the emotional woman 103 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 1: in me, but the one I remember the story that 104 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,919 Speaker 1: I think stands out so much, even beyond all of 105 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: his incredible political achievements. And he's a Nobel Peace Prize winner, 106 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: just one of four US presidents ever to have that honor, 107 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 1: so obviously he's accomplished so much professionally. But I think 108 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 1: of the love story. I think of the love story 109 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: between him and Rosalind, and I just think sometimes we 110 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: need those types of stories to speak when things feel bleak. 111 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 3: And I was reading. 112 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: Part of I mentioned it earlier, the letter that his 113 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: daughter Amy read, that he wrote to her while he 114 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 1: was serving in the navy. We were learning about him 115 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 1: as we were going back into his history seven years 116 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 1: as a naval officer, and. 117 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 2: I forgot a lot of that served the second nuclear 118 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 2: submarine in the US history. 119 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: What if you forget all of the early daring things 120 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 1: that some of these great men have done, and Jimmy 121 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 1: Carter is among them. 122 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 3: But while he was in service, he wrote, Can I just. 123 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 1: Read a little bit of the letter that Amy read, 124 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 1: because this just just makes me so happy. This is 125 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 1: Jimmy Carter to his wife Rosalind, while he was serving 126 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 1: in the navy. My darling, every time I have ever 127 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: been away from you, I have been thrilled when I 128 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 1: returned to discover just how wonderful you are. While I 129 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: am away, I try to convince myself that you really 130 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: are not could not be as sweet and beautiful as 131 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 1: I remember. But when I see you, I fall in 132 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: love with you all over again. 133 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 2: Wow. Okay, that's good. 134 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 3: That's amazing. 135 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 2: Okay, that's good. 136 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: That is so sweet, And it's been pretty cool not 137 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: He's survived by his four children. They had four children together, 138 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: John who was Jack Chip, Jeff, and their daughter Amy, 139 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: who I think we all remember being in the White House. 140 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 3: I remember seeing her so much in all the news coverage. 141 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: But he also had eleven grandchildren, fourteen great grand children. 142 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: And I just love that the love story between him 143 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: and Rosalind was, yes for us all to witness, but 144 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: for them to benefit from it. It's just it was 145 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: a huge, beautiful part of his incredible story that I've 146 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: had a lot of. I've actually enjoyed getting to know 147 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: him even more reading about all that he accomplished in 148 00:07:55,280 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: his life. 149 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 2: You stop folks on the street these days, I mean, 150 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 2: how much can you can folks tell you about his 151 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 2: presidency versus what they can tell you about his life. 152 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 2: I guess he had forty plus years outside of I mean, 153 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 2: he was a fairly young guy when he left the 154 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 2: White House mid fifties. I think it was that's a 155 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 2: lot of life. Yeah, and he did a lot with 156 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 2: it afterwards. That's he is known as a as not. 157 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 2: I don't know. What can you tell me about his presidency. 158 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 2: We can tell you about some of the failures and 159 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 2: why he might have left the White House is yes, 160 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 2: I can tell you about elections. I can tell you 161 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 2: about conflict resolution. I can tell you about disease eradication. Right, 162 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 2: all these things I know I can see him doing 163 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 2: after his presidency. 164 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 3: You know what's cool. I think so much of our. 165 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: Disdain or even just I don't know, you're just not 166 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,959 Speaker 1: into politics because of politicians, right, they aren't what they seem. 167 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: They're in it for the power and the greed and 168 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: the career. He wasn't in it for any of those things. 169 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: And I think everyone can agree he was there for 170 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 1: all the right reasons. So, yes, he might have had 171 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: an average one term presidency. But to your point, he 172 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 1: did so much with that platform beyond the presidency that 173 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: is remarkable. I mean, I did find out. 174 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 3: I don't. I'm kind of embarrassed to admit this. 175 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 1: I didn't realize that while he was president, several of 176 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 1: his victories included establishing the Department of Education, which we'll 177 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: see what happens with Trump because He's talked about completely 178 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: disassembling the Department of Education, so that would be an 179 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: interesting moment, and then also the Department of Energy. 180 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 3: I think a lot of. 181 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: Us who are a certain age remember his probably his 182 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 1: most notable achievement the Camp David Accords. He broke with 183 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: the deal between Israel and Egypt that led to Egypt 184 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: Israel peace treaty the following year. So that was kind 185 00:09:56,320 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: of the big, big notch in his belt. But then conversely, 186 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: the Iran hostage crisis pretty much ended his presidency. It's 187 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: the reason, one of the many reasons, but probably the 188 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 1: biggest reason why he was not re elected. 189 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 2: You hit on something great there at the beginning about 190 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 2: how he's viewed. If you watched him in his life 191 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 2: after he left the White House, you would never look 192 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,079 Speaker 2: at that guy and think he was a Democrat, former Republican, 193 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 2: or a former Democratic president. He was a former president. 194 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 2: And when you start viewing people as human beings and 195 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 2: just as humanitarians and just as I don't know, as 196 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 2: people who aren't on one side or the other, maybe 197 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 2: you start to get viewed differently. But yeah, he wasn't 198 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 2: partisan once he left the White House. 199 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 3: That's a really good point, and. 200 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 1: He took his platform and created the Carter Presidential Center. 201 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: That was in nineteen eighty two, and that is what 202 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: ultimately ended up leading to his Nobel Peace Prize in 203 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 1: two thousand and two because he took that foundation and 204 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 1: he focused on ending conflicts, on promoting human rights and democracy, 205 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 1: youth at, preventing disease, all of those things. He volunteered 206 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: to mediate disputes between the US and North Korea and Libya. 207 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 1: He all remembered Sorry Habitat for Humanity in nineteen eighty four, 208 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: that's an Atlanta based organization. He and Rosalind joined that 209 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: and were huge advocates and supporters of that organization. 210 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 3: So his life was truly of service. 211 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: Also interesting, I didn't know this. In between his seven 212 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: years as a naval officer and entering politics in nineteen 213 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 1: sixty two, he was a two term state senator. He 214 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: for eight years was simply a farmer. He was he 215 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: worked his family farm, the peanut farm in plains, Georgia, Maya. 216 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 2: I don't know why I remember this story, my mom 217 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 2: telling me this story about everybody, the election happening, whatever 218 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 2: year that was, seventy seventy sixty six, she said, Yeah, 219 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 2: we all went to bed one night and woke up 220 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 2: and said, who's president. It was such a surprise. It's 221 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 2: peanut farmer from Georgia is now the president of the 222 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 2: United States. I always remember being funny as a kid 223 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 2: telling me that story. 224 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, because you were born in nineteen seventy seven. So 225 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: the president that was the current president was Jimmy Carter. 226 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 3: When and I remember, oh, my brother and I. 227 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,319 Speaker 1: Used to imitate Jimmy Carter from Georgia, the peanut farmer, 228 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 1: like we would try to do his accent. 229 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 3: And I mean I remember doing that as. 230 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: A good and you know, we would we would put 231 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: up the peace side peace because even then, as a 232 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: little kid, I knew that Jimmy Carter stood for peace. 233 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 1: It's it's kind of funny, but I have such a 234 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: memory of that, and it's something he stood for his 235 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: entire life. It wasn't just in the moment. It wasn't 236 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: just to win an election, which is pretty cool. Also, 237 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: I was looking this up and I think the numbers 238 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: we right. He wrote and I want to say at 239 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,079 Speaker 1: least but he wrote thirty two books. From what I 240 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: can gather. 241 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 2: It's impressive. 242 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 3: Thirty two books. 243 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:07,559 Speaker 1: They range from his political philosophy to his deep faith. 244 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: He was a Christian man, he actually was born again 245 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:12,959 Speaker 1: a Christian, and a. 246 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,199 Speaker 3: Book all about his mother. I mean, he he had 247 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 3: so much to say. 248 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,599 Speaker 1: And the cool thing is that it lives on, you know, 249 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: not just in his family, but in his words and 250 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: in his books and all thirty two of them. 251 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 3: Apparently that's a lot of writing. 252 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 2: That's so important. And again it's we we're so aware 253 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 2: of him in news stories when he pops up here 254 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 2: or there, there's a birthday, or he does something daring, 255 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 2: or he's somewhere around the world. But it has been 256 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 2: interesting and just reading up on him and you go, oh, oh, 257 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,319 Speaker 2: that's right. Oh I forgot about that. Oh I didn't 258 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 2: know that, And that's a lot of that is has 259 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 2: been interesting. I forgot completely even that he was a 260 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 2: naval officer. 261 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know that I knew he was. 262 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 2: Forgot that completely right. And how he made his way 263 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 2: up through the ranks, and how he had one career 264 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 2: kind of derailed, if you will, because his father passed 265 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 2: and he went back to run the family peanut farms. 266 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: Pretty remarkable. That's a huge He was a peanut farmer. 267 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:15,319 Speaker 1: I said he was the son of a peanut farmer, 268 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: but he actually became a peanut farmer himself, in between 269 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: a storied naval career and a pretty incredible political career 270 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: that he rose very quickly. You know, it's funny. I 271 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: met him one time in my life. I was in 272 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: my second year at w CBD TV two Action News 273 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: in Charleston, South Carolina, and he came in. He was actually, 274 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: I think, being interviewed by I actually think it was 275 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: Good Morning America. We were the ABC affiliate, so he 276 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: just used our studios to do the talk back, and 277 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: everybody was so excited, and we didn't have phones back then, 278 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: but we had cameras and people were getting pictures taken 279 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: with him, and I didn't want to bother him. I 280 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: shook his hand, I met him, but I so badly 281 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: wanted to get a picture, but then I just didn't 282 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: want to add to him feeling overwhelmed, so I didn't 283 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: get one. And I it's always one of those moments 284 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: where like I wish I had, Like I just didn't 285 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: want to bother him, but and I think maybe if 286 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: I had had a phone and you could do a selfie, 287 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: it would have been easier, but I just felt like 288 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: I didn't want to join in on the line waiting 289 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: to get a picture with him. 290 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 2: Don't feel that way. You You have a story to tell, 291 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 2: you have an experience to tell, and reducing Yule's relationship 292 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 2: just a photo would have changed the dynamic and change 293 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 2: the story. 294 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 3: That's true. 295 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: And I remember watching him be so kind and so patient, 296 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: and that's why I was like, oh, I don't want 297 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: to add to but I remember thinking how I mean, 298 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: he was an older man, like, Wow, he's getting up there. 299 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 3: And to think that now, I mean that was seriously 300 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 3: almost thirty years ago. 301 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: He was in his like mid or late seventies, and 302 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: I thought, oh, you know, he's getting up there. 303 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 4: If you had told me, hey, Amy, in thirty years, 304 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 4: he's still going to be around, like what you got, 305 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 4: it's remarkable remark because to think that I was that 306 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 4: young and thought he was that old and he just 307 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 4: now passed, that's a pretty dang good life. 308 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 2: I don't know what his his regimen was, what his yea, 309 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 2: his diet was. I don't know if he's ever put 310 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 2: that out. I mean just maybe it's just good jeans. 311 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 2: Who knows what it is? Or just good living, or 312 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 2: maybe the Good Lord said we need this one to 313 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 2: stick around for a while because he's doing good. Who knows. Yeah, 314 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:34,359 Speaker 2: but that dude and his wife, what a year Yeah apart, 315 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 2: she was ninety. 316 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: Six, she was ninety six, I believe, Yes, unbelievable. That's 317 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: a sweet, amazing life. You don't hear about love stories 318 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: and lives like that. And yeah, they are together now. 319 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: I love thinking about that. We were also getting we 320 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: want to mention a lot of reaction, as you might imagine, 321 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: from former presidents, but even the current one, President Joe Biden, 322 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: and we were going to read a couple of the 323 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: some of the really lovely words that we're hearing from 324 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: our leaders about the passing of Jimmy Carter. So I'll 325 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: start with President Biden. He says, today America and the 326 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:15,439 Speaker 1: world lost an extraordinary leader, statesman, and humanitarian. Over six decades, 327 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 1: we had the honor of calling Jimmy Carter a dear friend. 328 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: But what's extraordinary about Jimmy Carter, though, is that millions 329 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,360 Speaker 1: of people throughout America and the world who never met 330 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: him thought of him as a dear friend as well. 331 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: I think that is so true, and I was going 332 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: to skip down to the end of this because I 333 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: thought this was really sweet. He said, to all of 334 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 1: the young people in this nation, and for anyone in 335 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: search of what it means to live a life of 336 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: purpose and meaning, the good life, study Jimmy Carter, a 337 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: man of principal faith and humility. He showed that we 338 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 1: are a great nation because we are a good people, 339 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 1: decent and honorable, courageous and compassionate, humble and strong. And 340 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,919 Speaker 1: President Biden said, he let a few of. 341 00:17:58,920 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 3: The details out. 342 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 1: He's going to be ordering an official state funeral. It'll 343 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 1: be held in Washington, d c. For Jimmy Carter, who 344 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: he says, he called I love that he gave all 345 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: of his titles. I'm gonna read them because the're really cool. 346 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: Thirty ninth President of the United States, seventy sixth Governor 347 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: of Georgia, Lieutenant of the United States Navy, graduate of 348 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: the United States Naval Academy, and favorite son of Plains Georgia, 349 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: who gave his full life in service to God and country. 350 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 3: That chokes me up even to hear that. And that's 351 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 3: that was beautiful. 352 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 2: That's really really well said yeah by President President Biden. 353 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 2: A lot of the you know a lot of I 354 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,959 Speaker 2: was reading here from former President George W. Bush and 355 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 2: it kind of went in line. I'm not going to 356 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 2: read this whole thing here, but I'll pluck this line out, 357 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 2: and it said he was a man of deeply held convictions. 358 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 2: He was loyal to his family, his community, and his country. 359 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 2: And this is the part I love ropes. He said, 360 00:18:55,400 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 2: President Carter dignified the office. Wow, and his efforts to 361 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,640 Speaker 2: leave behind a better world didn't end with the presidency. 362 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 2: That's awesome to hear that he dignified the office. 363 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 3: That just gave me chills to hear that. That is 364 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 3: really cool. That's beautiful. 365 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: We're also hearing from President Bill Clinton. He talked about 366 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: how he and Hillary were warning the passing of President 367 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:27,360 Speaker 1: Jimmy Carter. He mentioned, this is what President Clinton said, 368 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 1: from his commitment to civil rights as a state senator 369 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: and governor of Georgia, to his efforts as president to 370 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: protect our natural resources in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, 371 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:41,679 Speaker 1: make energy conservation and national priority, return the Panama Canal 372 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 1: to Panama, secure peace between injured in Israel, to his 373 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 1: post presidential efforts at the Carter Center, supporting honest elections, 374 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: advancing peace, combating disease, promoting democracy. I mean, he just 375 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 1: goes on and on to list all of the things 376 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: that Jimmy Carter did to make this country and this 377 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 1: world a better place. Also mentions about how he was 378 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: proud to have presented the Middle of Freedom to President 379 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: Carter and Rosalind in nineteen ninety nine. I hadn't realized 380 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: that either, But cool that President Clinton mentioned that as well. 381 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,919 Speaker 2: You know, there's a I'm reading through what the Obama's 382 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 2: their statement, and it's very personal and it's a longer reading, 383 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 2: and they kind of weave through a story that lands 384 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 2: on this President Carter's decency, right, And I guess that's 385 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 2: I know, people say nice things about people after they passed, right, 386 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 2: But it seems like there's a theme that to this guy, 387 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 2: and to a certainly to a politician, that's it stands out. 388 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 2: So that's really kind of cool to see. And he 389 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 2: ended up in office because of scandal. He was one 390 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 2: that was helping to get our moral. 391 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 3: Balance after the Watergate scandal. 392 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's it's just to see now people talk 393 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 2: about him in this way. Is it's kind of cool? 394 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 2: Now we have to mention that President elect Trump, but 395 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 2: out of statements as well, it has some Trump. 396 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: Yes here, I've got it actually right in front of me. 397 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 1: He said, this is quoting President elect Trump. I just 398 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: heard of the news about the passing of President Jimmy Carter. 399 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: Those of us who have been fortunate to have served 400 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: as president understand this is a very exclusive club and 401 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: only we can relate to the enormous responsibility of leading 402 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: the greatest nation in history. He does go on to 403 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 1: talk about President Carter here now. Next, he says, the 404 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 1: challenges Jimmy faced as president came at a pivotal time 405 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 1: for our country, and he did everything in his power 406 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: to improve the lives of all Americans. For that, we 407 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: owe him a debt of gratitude. He also just says 408 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,959 Speaker 1: that he and Milania are thinking of the Carter family 409 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: and urges the rest of us to keep them in 410 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 1: our hearts and prayers. 411 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 3: He did land the plane. There was a line about 412 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 3: President Carter in there. 413 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 2: Look, I who know, did somebody help him craft that. 414 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:07,360 Speaker 2: Some people would say that's great that he just well 415 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 2: Friday his own thing in the moment boomed, but it. 416 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:14,919 Speaker 3: Was authentic to the President. Electron was it not I 417 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 3: believe it was, indeed, but I do think that the 418 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 3: cool thing. 419 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 1: And I hope I was telling my daughters about his passing, 420 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 1: and they don't know a lot about him. 421 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 3: He's not some social media star. 422 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 1: He's certainly probably did not connect so much with some 423 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: of our younger generations. But if anyone is listening, and 424 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 1: I plan to send some links to my daughters, because 425 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: we can all learn something from how Jimmy Carter lived, 426 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: and not just for the fame and fortune of it, 427 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: or for the power or the political power of it, 428 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 1: but simply to do good. And I think that that 429 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: was just a genuine, authentic thing about him that no 430 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: one can dispute. Whether you liked his policies or not, 431 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 1: you knew he was a decent guy. 432 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 3: He was a good guy. He was in it for 433 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 3: the right reasons. 434 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 2: And it's wonderful to see him celebrate it in that way, 435 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 2: and wonderful for him if to your point, the younger generation, 436 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 2: your daughters can take this moment and learn anything about him. 437 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,640 Speaker 2: He used that office, if nothing else, he used the office. 438 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 2: He lost that office right he was he was defeated, 439 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 2: wasn't reelected, but he used his platform and did more 440 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 2: out of office than he ever did in the four 441 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 2: years he was in the White House. So let that 442 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:26,919 Speaker 2: be a lesson and a reminder to us all. But 443 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:32,199 Speaker 2: it's life worth remembering and studying and mourning and celebrating 444 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 2: all the same time. 445 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,679 Speaker 1: I love that, and it's a you know, you just 446 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: kind of I know we're wrapping up, but you just 447 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,919 Speaker 1: that definitely hit a nerve with me to know that 448 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:41,479 Speaker 1: you can lose an election. 449 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 3: And he didn't. 450 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 1: He didn't take that and lick his wounds and go 451 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 1: off and no, he kept being of service, He kept 452 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 1: showing up, he kept doing what he knew he could 453 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: do to make the world a better place, and that 454 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 1: defeat didn't define him. And I think that's so cool 455 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 1: and something we can all take with us into this week. 456 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: So thank you for being with us here on the 457 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: Amy t G Podcast. We will see you soon, especially 458 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: on morning Run, so check us out.