1 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: There are crooks everywhere you look. Now the situation is desperate. 2 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 2: Eighth of October twenty fifteen, just before seven am a 3 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 2: sleepy Thursday morning, in the town of Birgerkara, in the 4 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 2: center of Motawn, tightly wound medieval streets, beautiful, pale yellow 5 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 2: limestone churches, all just beginning to catch the first rays 6 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 2: of the early morning Mediterranean sun. Inside the houses and 7 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 2: apartments here, most people are still asleep or just waking up. 8 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 3: But here, on the top floor of an early empty 9 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 3: multi story garage on john Board Street, three men are 10 00:00:55,800 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 3: wide awake, crashing the seats of a stolen Toyota Parks 11 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 3: so they can watch the road down below. 12 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 4: They wait. 13 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 3: In this episode, we've taken evidence heard in the courtroom 14 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 3: and reconstructed what happened according to that testimony. We've dramatized 15 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 3: the evidence and provided color in places without changing any 16 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 3: of the material facts or allegations. 17 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 5: Okay, JJ dot lest. 18 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 2: In the driving seat is George de Georgia, around fifty 19 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 2: two years old, thinning hair, a little overweight, but an 20 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 2: intimidating presence. He's officially long term unemployed, but also able 21 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 2: somehow to support a remarkably luxurious lifestyle, luxury cars, including 22 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 2: a white Corvette, and his own fishing yacht. George is 23 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 2: well known to the police in his line of work. 24 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 2: Most people know him by his Multese street name of Itchinese, 25 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 2: the Chinese one. In the way of these names, the 26 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 2: origin is mysterious. Chinese George de Georgia is not from 27 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 2: an Asian family. He's one hundred percent Maltese and right now, 28 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 2: like the others in this toyota, he's kied up waiting 29 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 2: for the job to. 30 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 3: Begin in the back seats, watching the streets. The two men, allegedly. 31 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 2: One of them is Vincent il Kochu Mouscat. His Maltese 32 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 2: nickname translates roughly to the sound made by someone coughing. 33 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 2: This recreation is based on his courtroom testimony about that morning. 34 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 4: And after him then a list. 35 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 2: Like Chinese George, Vincent the Coff is middle aged with 36 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:40,239 Speaker 2: decades of work behind him. He too has a reputation 37 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 2: with the police, and allegedly, alongside Vincent the Cuff in 38 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 2: the car is the final member of the team. Jamie Vella, 39 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 2: in his early thirties, the youngest of the three, also 40 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 2: known to the police. He's seen as knowledgeable about firearms. 41 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 2: By the other two. There's an AK forty seven, a 42 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 2: Russian the designed submachine gun, resting under deceit near him. 43 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 2: Jamie also allegedly has with him a revolver, his main weapon. 44 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 2: This morning, and on. 45 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 3: This October morning, in twenty fifteen, in this busy channel 46 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 3: in Malta, these men in the car are a team, 47 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,119 Speaker 3: even if you like a family. 48 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 2: For now, and there is another thing that unites these 49 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 2: three their shared and bloody future, the reason we're telling 50 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 2: you this story. At least two of these men will 51 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 2: one day be the foot soldiers and the murder of 52 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 2: my country's most famous journalist, the assassination of a beloved wife, mother, 53 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 2: daughter and sister, and for me and many Maltese people 54 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 2: also an inspiration. The journalist's name is Deafnely Karwana Galitzia, 55 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 2: not Jane. 56 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 4: Shane. 57 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 3: But on this day in twenty fifteen, as these men 58 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 3: sit impatiently in a stolen car in an empty multi 59 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 3: story garage that is still a long way off, on 60 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 3: this morning, we will later be told in court they 61 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 3: are all still waiting for just one thing, the signal 62 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 3: to start their work. And then Vincent Lecough spots something. 63 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 2: Maltese for heads up. I can see him. He's coming 64 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 2: up the street. Some way off. A man in a 65 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 2: business suit is approaching, walking towards the entrance to the 66 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 2: garage Chinese George. George drives down through the almost deserted garage, 67 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 2: heading to street level. They don't have long They need 68 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 2: to be at the entrance before this man reaches the building. 69 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 3: As George drives, Jimmy and Vincent allegedly pull on Balaclava's 70 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 3: it's good to look the part. They pull over to 71 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 3: a space on the ground floor with a view of 72 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 3: the entrance onto the street. It won't be long now. 73 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 2: Along the walls of each floor are dozens of small, 74 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 2: lockablelee garages. You can rent one out for a small fee. 75 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 2: It's more private and secure than parking on the street, 76 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 2: but that also means that if you use one of 77 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 2: these garages regularly the same time every day, people can 78 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:30,359 Speaker 2: guess where to find you. 79 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 3: The street entrance opens, and the man in the suit 80 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 3: walks calmly in a leather bag in one hand, patting 81 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 3: his pockets with the other hand to find his keys. 82 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 2: Oblivious, the Toyota edges forward twenty meters away in the 83 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 2: back seat, Jamie allegedly lowers the window and takes the 84 00:05:53,560 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 2: safety off the revolver ten meters five meters. 85 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 3: The man in the suit has his keys out now 86 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 3: and he's standing just in front of Garage number forty six, 87 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 3: close to the entrance. As he puts the key in 88 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 3: the lock, he turns his back to the Toyota for 89 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 3: a moment, pulling the shutter open with his. 90 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 2: Weight, and that's when the car passes right next to him, 91 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 2: close enough to the chiut untouched. The shots are a 92 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 2: most point blank, a whole clip. 93 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 3: It's clear there's no need for a second pass. According 94 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 3: to Vincent Lakoff, Chinese George drives straight through the exit 95 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 3: into the back streets of Berkha Kara. They've rehearsed the 96 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 3: route to the safe house. Jamie in the back seat 97 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 3: stashes his weapon from here. It's just routine, planned for 98 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 3: the last it's what they do. 99 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 2: The man in the suit's name is carmelker Kopp, a lawyer, 100 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 2: married thirty five years, in business with some dangerous people. 101 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 2: As is normal for this kind of crime in Malta, 102 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 2: no one will be convicted for his murder. As is 103 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 2: normal for this kind of crime in Malta, no one 104 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 2: will even be arrested. For years. 105 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 3: No one is chasing these men now through Berkhakara, and 106 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 3: no one will. These men are free to kill again 107 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 3: and again until one day, two years later, when they 108 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 3: make the mistake of taking out Malta's most famous journalist. 109 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 2: This is the story of how my home, a smaller 110 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 2: European democracy, a picture postcard tourist destination, came to be 111 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 2: a place where the criminals set the rules, where crime 112 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 2: and politics merge, a place where some people can literally 113 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 2: get away with murder. This is a story you might 114 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 2: have heard part of before, but it's only now, in 115 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, that we are coming close to the 116 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 2: full truth. From iHeart Podcasts, Topic Studios and Vespucci, this 117 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 2: is Crooks Everywhere, Episode one, Drive by in Birkerkara. My 118 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 2: name is Manuel Delilla. I'm a former multist political operative 119 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 2: and government official, and I was inspired to become a 120 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:47,359 Speaker 2: journalist by this story we will be telling in this podcast, 121 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 2: the brutal murder of deaf Nie Carwana Galicia in twenty seventeen. 122 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 2: Ever since her death, I've been one of the people 123 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 2: trying to discover not just who killed her, but who 124 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 2: ordered her killing and why and how they are connected 125 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 2: to some of the most powerful people in the country. 126 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 2: It's an incredible and terrifying story. This might sound grand, 127 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 2: but for me, whether we find justice for Dephni is 128 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,839 Speaker 2: about the future of this whole nation, about the kind 129 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 2: of country my children will be living in. But to 130 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,439 Speaker 2: tell this story, I knew I needed someone with the 131 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 2: experience to take on difficult and even dangerous stories. And 132 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 2: that's why I called up my friend and mentor, mister 133 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 2: John Sweeney. 134 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 3: Thank you very much, sir. 135 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 2: Six years ago I didn't know John except from the TV, 136 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 2: but now he's an old friend. He's a former BBC 137 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 2: man and if you ask me, one of the best 138 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 2: investigative and war reporters in the world. And probably if 139 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:43,559 Speaker 2: you ask him. 140 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 3: To oh, leave it out, galv I'm only here to 141 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 3: make trouble for the wrong kind of people. 142 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 2: John stuck up inconvenient truths on subjects as varied as scientology, 143 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 2: North Korea and the life of Gillame Maxwell. And for 144 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 2: years he's chronicled the corruption and crimes of Vladimir pu 145 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:04,599 Speaker 2: sometimes on the front lines of Ukraine. 146 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 3: When a journalist is murdered. It's not just a tragedy 147 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 3: for a family. It's an attempt to shut down what 148 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 3: we all do. Journalism is about trying to tell truth 149 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 3: about the world, to keep power and money in check, 150 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 3: to give a voice to the voiceless. The moment I 151 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 3: arrived in Malta after Daphne's murder, I sense this wasn't 152 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 3: just the snuffing out of one extraordinary woman. Someone was 153 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 3: trying to silence a whole country, to prevent it from 154 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:43,079 Speaker 3: asking the wrong kind of questions. And for me, this 155 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 3: is a story that has lessons for every country where 156 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 3: power and money use crime to settle scores. I see 157 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 3: this story played out in varying degrees across the world, 158 00:10:55,960 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 3: in Russia, in America, in Britain. And that's why this 159 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 3: story matters whether you're Maltese or not. And for a 160 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 3: subject like this, you need an insider, someone who knows 161 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 3: the place, someone like Manuel. 162 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 2: A few years ago, when my writing about corruption led 163 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 2: to me and my family receive incredible threats, I decided 164 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 2: to leave the country temporarily. When I was stuck a 165 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:26,599 Speaker 2: long way from home, wondering if I was doing the 166 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 2: right thing. John was one of the friends who visited 167 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 2: me and became someone I could turn to. We've written 168 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 2: a book together about Defnie and Malta's recent history, along 169 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 2: with our co author, mafia expert Carlo Bonini. But a 170 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 2: lot has changed since that book came out five years ago. 171 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 3: Although do please buy it. Murder on the Malta Express 172 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 3: is still available in all good bookshops. 173 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 2: We now know a lot more about men like Chinese 174 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 2: George and Vincent, the cough and the men who were 175 00:11:55,600 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 2: accused of paying them. So what this Jack? I've invited 176 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 2: John back to my home country. You see, I'm proud 177 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 2: of this wonderful complex place. Hello John, Good morning morning. 178 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 2: We're in Touchbash, which is part of the Northern Harbor, 179 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 2: just north of Aleta, and we're going to the boat right, 180 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 2: that's for that. 181 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 4: I've got my sea legs on. 182 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:20,959 Speaker 2: Let's go meet. 183 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 4: Ask. So what's this? What's the ship called again? A 184 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 4: gin Fizz? Gin Fizz. I'm already thinking of that gin 185 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 4: Fiz as we speak. All right, guys, you guys have 186 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:39,959 Speaker 4: probably been on Boast before, but I still have to 187 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 4: go through the safety briefing by law. 188 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 3: Can everybody swim? 189 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 4: Yeah? Any medical issues I need to know. 190 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 2: About a few facts to begin. Mota is the smallest 191 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 2: country in the European Union, a chain of islands in 192 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 2: the Mediterranean between Sicily and North Africa. Our whole country 193 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 2: is less than half the size of New York City 194 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 2: or London. It's also densely populated. There are half a 195 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 2: million people here and plenty of history. We speak our 196 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 2: own unique language derived from medieval Arabic eat footed that 197 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 2: might remind you of Italy. And we're ruled as a 198 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 2: British colony for one hundred and fifty years. And the 199 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 2: jewel of this nation, our beautiful capital city of Valletta, 200 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 2: is set in the majestic Grand Harbor. And you know what, 201 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 2: grand and majestic are no exaggerations. This view can turn 202 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 2: even a grizzled reporter like John to poverty. 203 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 3: So we're passing into Grand Harbor, which is one of 204 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 3: the most beautiful in the world. 205 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 4: And there's something. 206 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 3: About the honeycomb stone of Malta and the construction it 207 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 3: was roughly the same time that constructed Venice of that 208 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 3: kind of era. 209 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 4: It's extraordinary. 210 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 2: Found years off. 211 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 3: So Venice is when venices twelve hundred, Venice is all up, 212 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 3: you're about four hundred years off. 213 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 4: I know nothing. 214 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 2: Look, this is a beautiful place, and I can see 215 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 2: why John thinks of Venice when he's sees it. In 216 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,079 Speaker 2: one direction from the boat, you can see a skyline 217 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 2: jump built full of Renaissance churches, domes and forts, all 218 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 2: crisscrossed with waterways and inlets, ferries and sailing boats. 219 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 4: There's a gown a little boat zooming along. Looks rather cool. 220 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 2: But alongside the history there is also the other Malta here, 221 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 2: the new Malta of multi story concrete hotels and luxury 222 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 2: apartment blocks, crowding right up to the water, catering for 223 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 2: the new elite, and for some this is a playground. 224 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 3: So the scale of the money here in boats is 225 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 3: an extraordinary umber passing one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, 226 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 3: eight nine, and not quite super yachts, but they're pretty 227 00:14:58,320 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 3: nice yachts. 228 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 2: Well, if I'm careful where to look, I still love 229 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 2: this place. This is my country. This bay is where 230 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 2: I was brought up. This is where I went to swim, 231 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 2: This is where I crossed the ferry to go to Valletta, 232 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 2: my first job. And I see on one side hasn't 233 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 2: changed much. And if you see photos from fifty or 234 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 2: one hundred years ago hasn't changed much. On the other side, 235 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 2: you blink and it's six stories higher. 236 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 3: And this is rash of concrete. Acne is a symbol 237 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 3: of the dirty money that is besieging Malta. 238 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 2: Well you call it a symbol, John, it's actually a product. 239 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 2: So some of it, at least, it's money being recycled 240 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 2: from illicit activities and tax evasion. 241 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 3: So as we round the point, beautiful old honeycombstone to 242 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 3: our right, enormous cruise ship like a block of flats, 243 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 3: ugliest sin. And the reason they're here is because Malta 244 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 3: is a tourist paradise. But underneath these extraordinary beauty, in 245 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 3: this this heft of history, there are some dark, dark shadows. 246 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 4: This is a place where. 247 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 6: Dark power and dark money likes to hang out. And 248 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 6: if you try and tell truth to that dark money, 249 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 6: in that dark power, if you're a journalist, it can 250 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 6: be a very dangerous place. 251 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 4: Indeed. 252 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: October twelfth, twenty seventeen, opposition leader's wife says convicted drug 253 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: dealer's girlfriend is one of my closest and most trusted friends. 254 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 3: So Manuel, what are we listening to? 255 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 2: Well, as with many things. To understand how we got here, 256 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 2: you need to go back a while, in this case 257 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 2: a decade ago to the mid twenty tens. Deers leading 258 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 2: up to Daphanie's death. Remember blogs. 259 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 1: Drug dealer's girlfriend says she and opposition leader's wife are 260 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:12,479 Speaker 1: close friends in Malta. 261 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 2: They never really went away like sisters. At that point, 262 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,880 Speaker 2: I'd left politics and was working as a software salesman, 263 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 2: and like many people in Malta, I'd begin each day 264 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 2: by checking one politics blog, in particular a blog by 265 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 2: Dfhanie Karwana Galicia. 266 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 3: In this case, the husband dislieve with asked the actors 267 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 3: Sienna Miller to read these extracts from Daphne's right. 268 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: Friend is a convicted lifelong drug dealer who was released 269 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: from jail a few months ago. 270 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 3: I remember that time in Britain, too Big dreams that 271 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 3: blogging could provide an alternative to newspapers and TV channels, 272 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 3: a place where you could get your political news a 273 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 3: bit more unfiltered. 274 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 2: Well, in Malta, Dafanie's blog wasn't just a blog for 275 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 2: political geeks. It was bigger than that. It made the news. 276 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 2: It's been often said, was read by more people each 277 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 2: day than any of Malta's newspapers. The newspapers did not 278 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 2: dispute that claim. 279 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 1: A bill to bring Malta's anti money laundering legislation in. 280 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 2: Line with and here what's her secret? Defney's style wasn't 281 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 2: dry paper of record staff. It was chetty, sarcastic. 282 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: Are we supposed to laugh? 283 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 4: Or what? 284 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 2: Often? Angry? Sometimes gossipy, sometimes viciously personal at all? 285 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: April fifteenth, twenty. 286 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 2: Sixteen, always gripping. 287 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: Malta is not a normal country, but a bizarre island, 288 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 1: crowded with peculiar people who are either completely mad, very dotty, 289 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: deeply stupid, totally malicious, or a combination of all. 290 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 5: Of those things. 291 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: Here is what I think that we have descended to 292 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 1: the pits of ineptitude, abuse of power, trading in influence, cronyism, 293 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 1: and corruption. 294 00:18:55,119 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 7: I think it was quite anoveative. It was the narve. 295 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 7: Daphne's narrative was quite unique. She had a brilliant command 296 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 7: of the English language. 297 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,439 Speaker 2: Herman Grek is editor in chief of the Times of Malta, 298 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 2: the country's actual paper of record, part of the journalistic establishment. 299 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 7: And she was funny, and she was also brutal towards 300 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 7: you know people she didn't like. In the case of Daphnie, 301 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 7: was a one woman show, and she was out there 302 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 7: without an editor, and she could say whatever she wanted. 303 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 7: So that's what she presented. 304 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 2: For most of my life. The big Motives newspapers like 305 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 2: Herman's have been considered mostly serious and formal, while TV 306 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 2: stations are the opposite, highly partisan, tabloid and openly backing 307 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 2: one political party or the other. However angry Daphne's blog 308 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 2: would be she could be trusted to have done her research, 309 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 2: and any attempts to intimidate Daphnie would also end up 310 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 2: in her blog. 311 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: October fifth, twenty seventeen, ant Andrea Kuttayer, the owner of 312 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:04,919 Speaker 1: an illegal zoo in which big cats have bred for 313 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: a lucrative market, has just wrung me to take issue 314 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 1: with the fact that I wrote about his illegal operation 315 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 1: earlier this afternoon. He did not ring to correct any 316 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: reported facts, but to object to being placed in the limelight. 317 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 1: Leave me alone and I'll. 318 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 5: Leave you alone. 319 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 2: And she was fearless. 320 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: I am a very big millionaire, he said, do you 321 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 1: have any idea how much money I have? I don't 322 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: need to justify myself with anyone. Well, that's exactly the problem. 323 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 1: I said. You think that because you have lots of 324 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: money you can do what you please, that you are 325 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 1: more equal than others before the law, And unfortunately you're 326 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: being proved right on that. 327 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:46,439 Speaker 2: And that goes to the heart of Dapinice's philosophy. What 328 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 2: connected so many of her stories the feeling that those 329 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 2: with power and money in Morta had ceased to believe 330 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 2: that the law applies to them. One rule for them, 331 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 2: another for the rest of us. That multis society, the 332 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 2: court's political parties, the press, ordinary voters, all of us 333 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 2: were struggling to meet that onslaught. 334 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 4: Was she on the. 335 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 2: Money man, Well, well, yes, in my view, I'd say so, 336 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 2: it's how it feels living here. And Daphne's response to 337 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 2: that situation was simple. She wouldn't let them get away 338 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 2: with their lies, not the big lies or the small ones. 339 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 3: But that can be dangerous for someone working on their own. 340 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 2: Yes, and because those with power and money and Malta 341 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 2: were so used to getting their way, definitely found that 342 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 2: they often didn't hide their lives all that. 343 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:40,439 Speaker 3: Well, Daphnie didn't just use the freedom that her blog 344 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 3: gave her to fight corruption or take on the powerful. 345 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 3: Unlike in the newspaper, there was no editor looking over 346 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 3: Daphne's shoulder for a second opinion on what she was posting. 347 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 3: That meant less interference, but it also meant that anyone 348 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 3: could end up in her sights. 349 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 2: Some of those posts about ordinary people make for uncomfortable reading. 350 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: I'm sure it's not just my imagination. When I look 351 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: at stills and films of Labor mass meetings, I think 352 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 1: that they looked just like a white trash convention. It's 353 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: almost incredible. 354 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 2: The Labor Party was the party in government at that time. 355 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 2: The real DEFNI, or at least the face to face Deafni, 356 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 2: was very different from blogging Deafnie. Less confrontation and less caustic. 357 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 3: How well did you know a man? 358 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:30,360 Speaker 4: Well? 359 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 2: I knew her professionally, most as a small place, and 360 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 2: we both worked in media and politics, and we shared 361 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,719 Speaker 2: some of the same fears and campaigns against corruption and 362 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 2: dirt to money in politics. She was already an inspiration 363 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 2: to me, and when she started breaking her really big stories, 364 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 2: the ones that alleged serious crimes committed by powerful men, 365 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 2: well then she was a hero to many people too. 366 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 8: So I knew as a sister. 367 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 3: This is Corin Vella, the younger sister of Daphne Carouana Galitzia. 368 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 8: I only knew her sort of in a domestic environment, 369 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 8: and the domestic in the sense of family environment, that 370 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,199 Speaker 8: of off duty kind of thing. The fact that she 371 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 8: was prolific in her writing didn't mean it was the 372 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 8: only thing she was doing. I mean, she did all 373 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,679 Speaker 8: kinds of things. She traveled, she know, she had a 374 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 8: lovely home, she loved gardening, and she had a life 375 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 8: outside her journalistic work. But that's only because people knew 376 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 8: her through her work that they got the perception that 377 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 8: that is the only thing she is doing. 378 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 3: It's one of the real risks of any kind of 379 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 3: high profile journalism. People will assume they know the real 380 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,439 Speaker 3: you from what they read, whatch or listen to. 381 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,199 Speaker 2: I mean, I do understand why people thought that she 382 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 2: was her journalism. She wrote so much that it was 383 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 2: hard to imagine how she had a life outside her writing. 384 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 2: There could be multiple updates in a single day, and 385 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 2: in a country as small as small town, there's really 386 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 2: no way to stay in on it. If you are 387 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 2: known and you go out in public, you will meet 388 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 2: people who know who you are and they may have 389 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 2: opinions about you that they want to share. 390 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,919 Speaker 8: I mean, it was a general sense of unease. But 391 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 8: it wasn't like you were actually going to tell her 392 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 8: to please stop doing this because you're making me nervous. 393 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 8: Because you don't do or don't do something because of 394 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 8: how someone else feels. That wouldn't be a reasonable request, 395 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 8: and it didn't seem right to expect someone to be 396 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 8: quiet because someone else couldn't tolerate their views. 397 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 2: In her final few years, some politicians in particular became 398 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 2: favorite targets for Daphne's blog posts, and after her death, 399 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 2: these men would find themselves answering difficult questions, questions about 400 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 2: how definitely had damaged their public images and about how 401 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 2: they had responded how they had acted towards her. 402 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 3: When we wrote a book together, it was clear that 403 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:58,679 Speaker 3: these politicians were already part of this story, but we 404 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 3: didn't know the half of it, in terms of how 405 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 3: the politics set the backdrop for everything else that would 406 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 3: follow her. Perhaps the most importance of Daphne's targets was 407 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:15,679 Speaker 3: the then Prime Minister of Malta himself, Joseph Muscat, in 408 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 3: office from twenty thirteen onwards. 409 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 2: Definitely had a lot to say about him, a lot 410 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 2: of it pretty strongly opinionated. 411 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:25,880 Speaker 5: May seventh, twenty twelve. 412 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: Joseph Muscat a bloody fraud. 413 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 5: Every seventh, twenty thirty. 414 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: Like all cult leaders and gang leaders, Joseph Muscat uses 415 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: decorative women to shore up his manhood and make himself 416 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: seem magnetic. 417 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 5: Every thirteenth, twenty thirteen. 418 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 1: Did Joseph Muscat write his doctoral thesis? 419 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 5: First? 420 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:44,959 Speaker 1: Twenty thirteen Joseph Muscat Power Hungry Scott first twenty fifteen. 421 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: Joseph Muscat the quintessential demographic fourteenth, twenty sixteen. Joseph Muscat 422 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 1: the Donald Trump Factor. 423 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 3: So she's not really a fan of Prime Minister Joseph Muscat. 424 00:25:59,480 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 4: Is she? 425 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 2: You could say? 426 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:00,919 Speaker 4: So? 427 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 2: Men like the Prime Minister weren't just politicians to Deafni, 428 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 2: or even just allegedly corrupt politicians. For her, they represented 429 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 2: a whole new political culture threatening undermining our nation. 430 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 9: Malta is great an economics. 431 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 2: This campaign, added from twenty sixteen, is typical slick, mostly 432 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,679 Speaker 2: in motives, but with matterings of English. Both languages are 433 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,239 Speaker 2: widely spoken in the country, although English is seen as 434 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 2: the language of the more. 435 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 9: Educated services, all industrial films. 436 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 2: Moscow is fresh faced here in his early forties. He's 437 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 2: been in power three years now, seeking re election. He's 438 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 2: reminding us of all the great things about our country, 439 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 2: including his government. 440 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 3: It's clear he's going for the approachable, look, cheerful, quite 441 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 3: informal chachi. 442 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 9: Nadiv tala and the laudesh if. 443 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 3: But then he's also speaking to us in the lobby 444 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 3: of a grand government building, big staircase, flags everywhere. He's 445 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 3: projecting power, but with a human face. 446 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 2: That grand building is castile our White House or Downing Street. 447 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,439 Speaker 2: And yes that's the message. I am in power, but 448 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 2: I'm just also an ordinary guy. And I speak to 449 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 2: you in Maltese. But I can switch into English too 450 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 2: if I need. 451 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 9: A little laussh. If you reach Malta is great. We 452 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 9: should just say it a little bit more. 453 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 2: Of Another of his slogans was Malta tan Alcohol, meaning 454 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 2: Malta belongs to all of us, sort of a Maltese 455 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 2: version of British Prime Minister Boris Johnson's We're taking back 456 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 2: control or President Donald Trump's make America great Again. Mouscat's 457 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 2: first government of twenty thirteen was supposed to be a 458 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,199 Speaker 2: new start for this country. We had been used to 459 00:27:56,240 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 2: an older generation of leaders socially conservative courses, often perceived 460 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:06,159 Speaker 2: to be an effective or corrupt. Joseph Musquin promised to 461 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 2: change all that, the modern progressive alternative government without a tie. 462 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 2: Even Harmon Gregg, the newspaper editor, was impressed by some 463 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 2: of it. 464 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 7: Extremely charming, very popular, I would say, quite intelligence. He 465 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 7: came across in the beginning as a bit of a 466 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 7: revolutionizing his own party, you know, came across as a 467 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 7: very pro severe rights, very pro business, and he changed 468 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 7: alta dramatically. 469 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 2: Not charming in everyone's eyes. 470 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 4: Though. 471 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 2: Here's corn Defne's sister. 472 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 8: I don't know what the word is, a lap start. 473 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 8: Let's say it's just really irritating personality. 474 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 3: I see why this wouldn't wash with Daphnely. 475 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 2: She gave a clear message to her readers, don't believe 476 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 2: the hype. Underneath the image management. She believed there was 477 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 2: a deeply cynical operator. 478 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 7: She attacked him from the word goal. She she never 479 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 7: liked him. Everything basically about him, about his way of living, 480 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 7: about his politics, even his own you know, his family. 481 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 8: We've been aware of him for a long time because 482 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 8: he was a propagandist for the party eventually led. He 483 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 8: ran the English language internet platform, terribly written, hopelessly misspelled, 484 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 8: you know, just trying to carry favor with the English 485 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 8: speaking half of the population. 486 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 2: But however, Irriitating definitely had her family found Joseph mouscart 487 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 2: Many voters liked him back then. 488 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 8: By then politics had become all about marketing. So it 489 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 8: was all about the branding, you know, the changing of 490 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 8: the color of the ties they wore, changing the party logo, 491 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 8: giving people catchy slogans, making themselves look hip and cool, 492 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 8: you know, making the governing party at the time the 493 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 8: girl and stuffy. 494 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 7: He said that he's going to be Prime Minister for everybody. 495 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 7: He promised everybody that this would be a multa for all, 496 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 7: that the best is yet to come, you know, and 497 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 7: he did deliver on some of those premises. He was 498 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 7: very business friendly, and I would say quite a lot 499 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 7: of people became rich overnight. 500 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 2: And so after twenty thirteen, any threat to the Joseph 501 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 2: Mouscant government could potentially prove extremely expensive to many people. 502 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 2: So flesh forward to a night in October twenty seventeen, 503 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 2: Joseph Moscant and his government have been in power now 504 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 2: for four years. Daphne's blog is at the height of 505 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 2: its power and fame, leading the fight against corruption of 506 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 2: politicians once again. The following is a dramatization. We've taken 507 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 2: evidence heard in the courtroom and reconstructed what happened according 508 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 2: to that testimony. We have dramatized the evidence and provided 509 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 2: color in places without changing any of the material facts 510 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 2: or allegations. 511 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 3: On this night, in the field in the countryside to 512 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 3: the west of the Lessa, two men are silently practicing rehearsing, 513 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 3: making preparations for a job. 514 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 2: One of them we've already met, Vincent de kov Moscat, 515 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 2: one of the contract killers in the stolen Toyota back 516 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 2: in Burkerkara. And next to him is another man who 517 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 2: is also definitely known to the police, Chinese George's younger brother, 518 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 2: Alfred Ilfulu, the Georgio Alfred, the Georgia Ilfulu. It means 519 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 2: the bean, so Alfred, the bean de Georgio. Let's just 520 00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 2: say he's in the same line of business as his 521 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 2: older and vincenta. 522 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 3: Kof It's a warm style this evening, trying to minimize noise. 523 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 3: Vincent the cough and Alfred the Bean creep into their 524 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 3: hiding place in the brush on the side of a hill, 525 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 3: overlooking a wide, shallow valley. Out on the horizon, they 526 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 3: can just make out the coast the Mediterranean and inky blackness, 527 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 3: broken up by occasional lights from boats. But they aren't 528 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 3: here to enjoy the scenery. They need to stay hidden 529 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 3: at all times and leave no trace when they've gone. 530 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 3: They've already spent a while here, watching and waiting, noting 531 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 3: patterns of movement, getting through a lot of cigarettes with 532 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 3: the tension and the boredom bills. 533 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 2: Right now, Vincent Koff is purged on a couple of bricks, 534 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 2: looking through the telescope, relaying what he is to Alfred 535 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 2: de Bean Mushna. He's just noted that the target has 536 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 2: left the room nearest them. The house they're watching is 537 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 2: a traditional old matese farmhouse, the same elegant pale limestone 538 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 2: as the buildings of Valletta, surrounded by high walls and lush, 539 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 2: thickly planted gardens. Daphne's family home where she lives with 540 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 2: her husband and two of her adult sons. It's a beautiful, 541 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 2: peaceful spot. 542 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 3: The garden wall is one of the family's few concessions 543 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 3: to security after years of threats and attacks due to 544 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 3: Daphne's writing. But from their position up on the hill, 545 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 3: the men can see down over the walls through the 546 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 3: windows into the home itself. 547 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 2: Daphanie and her husband Peter have lived here for decades, 548 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 2: raised their three sons here. As you'd expect in a 549 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 2: small place like Bidnia, everyone locally knows where the Karwana 550 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 2: Galizias live. Definitely sometimes writes her block posts from home, 551 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 2: so she is often in the house and at certain 552 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 2: times she walks past the farmhouse windows and into the 553 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 2: telescopes view. 554 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 4: Say that first the fun on our computer. 555 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,320 Speaker 2: Right now, they can see her sitting on a sofa. 556 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 2: Daphaney has settled down to type on her laptop. She's relaxed, unaware. 557 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 3: Just on the side of Vincent Lecough there's a rifle 558 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 3: with a telescopic sight. They tested it a few days 559 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 3: ago in a field. It's only one of the weapons 560 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 3: they've been supplied with for the job. They're saving their 561 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 3: AK forty seven if they encounter any police roadblocks when 562 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:49,760 Speaker 3: making a getaway. But above all, the sniper shot needs 563 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 3: accuracy to create a more stable shooting position. They've even 564 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 3: filled pillowcases with soil to act as sandbags. 565 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,800 Speaker 4: Jempilloo am. 566 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 2: Now Daphne is settled and visible. One of the men 567 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 2: uses a burner phone to text Chinese George, the designated 568 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 2: getaway driver. The message is simple, we are ready, she 569 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 2: is in position. Get here now, because by now the 570 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 2: group is under pressure to get this done. Those who 571 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,879 Speaker 2: hire them have said that if they don't act soon, 572 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 2: something might get published that shouldn't get published. When Chinese 573 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,879 Speaker 2: George does arrive, the plan is that he will park 574 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 2: close by, using a stolen vehicle as a getaway car, 575 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,479 Speaker 2: just like in the Carmelkerkop murder. And like then they'll 576 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 2: also have a back up AK forty seven. At last, 577 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 2: it's all coming together and inside the house, as the 578 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 2: evening goes on, Daphne stays by the window, writing and 579 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 2: writing and writing. 580 00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 3: Offer the being a steady sus grip on the row 581 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 3: rifle and hugs the butt into his shoulder, preparing his 582 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:05,840 Speaker 3: body to absorb the recoil. 583 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 4: He alignes the bead and. 584 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 3: The crook to ensure he has the perfect aim right 585 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 3: at Daphne working on her laptop. All they need now 586 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 3: is the signal from Chinese George, but the getaway car 587 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 3: is ready and waiting nearby. 588 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,320 Speaker 2: When that message comes, all it will take will be 589 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:44,799 Speaker 2: a simple squeeze of the trigger that's next. At the 590 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 2: time of recording, criminal proceedings are ongoing against some of 591 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:52,280 Speaker 2: the individuals accused of murdering definite Carvana Gazzia and other victims. 592 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,840 Speaker 2: We will fill you in more about where the case 593 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 2: is as the serious progresses, but for now it s 594 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,240 Speaker 2: a fy sister say George, George, Joe and j Mivella, 595 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 2: who you heard about earlier in the show, denied any 596 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:12,759 Speaker 2: involvement in killing Daphne or Carmel ker Kopp. Crooks Everywhere 597 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:16,919 Speaker 2: is a production of iHeart Podcasts, Topic Studios and Vespucci. 598 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 2: It's reported and hosted by me Manuel Delia and John Sweeney. 599 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 2: The senior producer is Leo Hornack, The producer is Maddi Hickish. 600 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:31,240 Speaker 2: Chris Dinesh Kumar is the assistant producer. 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