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Speaker 1: Welcome in Thursday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We

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Speaker 1: are excited to hang out with all of you for

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Speaker 1: the next three hours. Let me hit you with the

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Speaker 1: guests that we have coming down the pike here in

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Speaker 1: the second hour, the chairman of the FCC will be

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Speaker 1: with us, and then that is Brendan Carr. There are

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Speaker 1: a bunch of moving parts in the FCC, but probably

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Speaker 1: has not been following it as closely as I have.

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Speaker 1: But also the Paramount versus Netflix battle for Warner Brothers

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Speaker 1: has really heated up, and I love all these media

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Speaker 1: stories and so may have some questions about that and more.

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Speaker 1: At two point thirty, we will be joined by the

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Speaker 1: FDA Commissioner, Marty McCarey, and we will dive into a

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Speaker 1: bunch of different discussions with him. So both of those

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Speaker 1: stories are on the horizon, Both of those guests on

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Speaker 1: the horizon as well. Several things that are happening as

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Speaker 1: we start off the day. Hillary Clinton is testifying about

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Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein and basically she is saying I've never met

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Speaker 1: him and I've never been.

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Speaker 2: On his plane.

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow, her husband, Bill Clinton will testify and we'll see

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Speaker 1: what happens.

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Speaker 2: There. I just really want her to look into the

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Speaker 2: cameras and go, what difference at this point does it make?

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Speaker 2: Just for old time's sake, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Just go full Hillary, go full hot.

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Speaker 1: And here is that cut that Buck just referenced old

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Speaker 1: school producer Greg on the ball, This is a flashback

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Speaker 1: to twenty thirteen.

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Speaker 2: What difference at this point doesn't make?

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Speaker 3: There?

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Speaker 2: I didn't even know that we had that on the

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Speaker 2: cut sheet. That was a mind meld there. Look at that.

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Speaker 1: There's a story that I think should be a way

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Speaker 1: bigger story. In fact, I know she doesn't do media

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Speaker 1: very often, but producer, Dolly, can you put in a

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Speaker 1: request for Susie Wiles, the chief of staff for President Trump.

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Speaker 1: I'm guessing she's probably not gonna want to come on

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Speaker 1: In fact, I've only seen her speak in public a

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Speaker 1: few times. She's doing a great job. But Buck, this

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Speaker 1: story is wild. There are reports that Susie Wiles, when

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Speaker 1: she was Donald Trump's campaign manager in the twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: four election, was under surveillance, as was Cash Ptel, who

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Speaker 1: is now the director of the FBI. But that Susie

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Speaker 1: Wiles's own attorney was aware that their conversation was being

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Speaker 1: listened to by the FBI, but she was not. Have

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Speaker 1: you seen that report? I just as a lawyer, the

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Speaker 1: number of situation. First of all, I can't imagine ever

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Speaker 1: this to occur. This report, this story is out there.

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Speaker 1: The fact that she was under FBI surveillance while being

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Speaker 1: the campaign manager is crazy in and of itself. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it is much more of a substantial infringement, probably than

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Speaker 1: anything related to Watergate. But that her attorney would have

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Speaker 1: So I don't know how much attention you've paid to

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Speaker 1: that buck, but it's one that I think there could

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Speaker 1: be more revelations from, and I would actually like to

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Speaker 2: Well, if you think about it, it's not surprising at

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Speaker 2: all that the previous administration would have done that. One

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Speaker 2: verbally slapping around the Democrats here and there was that

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Speaker 2: essentially most almost all of those politicians wanted, hoped and

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Speaker 2: in prison, actually in prison. Now we have gone past this,

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Speaker 2: We have you know, moved on, I think quite a

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Speaker 2: I know it's been you know, a year and a

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Speaker 2: few months. But the whole plan was to bring criminal

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Speaker 2: Trump and not trying to ensnare If you're going to

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Speaker 2: the retribution just for him having been president for four years.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they really were after him. And I think

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Speaker 2: there are still crazies out there trying to trying to

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Speaker 2: we forget that it was completely normalized among Democrats to

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Speaker 2: It wasn't just oh, we're gonna illicitly remove him from

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Speaker 2: It's not talked about anymore. Remember they tried to take

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Speaker 2: that was the plan here. And I just think that

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Speaker 2: so when you read this stuff, Clay, I think there's

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Speaker 1: And there's also reports and look, you and I told

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Speaker 1: And we talked about this a lot. But I know

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Speaker 1: it's easy to forget their plan, and it was foiled by,

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Speaker 1: thankfully judges who actually applied the law. But their plan

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Speaker 2: Trump stood up and.

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Speaker 1: Spoke for nearly two hours at eighty years old in

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Speaker 1: no ill effects at all. I do think it's worth

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Speaker 1: President Trump, just from a physical and mental capacity. With

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Speaker 2: I recently had to do clay A a commercial of sorts,

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Speaker 2: because you know, a lot got a lot of hats,

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Speaker 2: a lot of things going on. Speaking of hats, number

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Speaker 2: really a happy congratulations, thank you everyone.

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Speaker 1: I want there to be an investigation into John Meacham

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Speaker 1: ending up in front of you on absolute, absolute nonsense

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Speaker 2: Biden getting eighty one million votes. Me too, There's just

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Speaker 2: no way, because I know it is Amazon ranking, so somehow,

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Speaker 2: someone explained that to me. I know, they built like

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Speaker 2: But I don't think that's enough to make up for

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Speaker 2: there were bulk buys. By the way, I didn't have

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Speaker 2: I didn't have bulk buys. I just had people like you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you buying the book, and I still love. My

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Speaker 2: a little bit like when Clay Bench pressed two twenty

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Speaker 1: audio book of Manufacturing Delusion, which is entirely read by

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Speaker 2: Yes, indeed, thank you. Oh but going back to hats

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Speaker 1: Am I gonna look up on television and just see

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Speaker 1: you doing a commercial?

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Speaker 2: I mean, quite sham wow. But it was stuff, you know,

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Speaker 2: it said, very nice product. Sometimes Buckster's got a hustle.

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Speaker 2: The point is I had to stand up for like

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Speaker 2: So Trump being up there because I got I got

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Speaker 1: The chairman of the FCC, Brendan Carr, came on last week,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, look, I think you nailed it. Great to be

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Speaker 3: This was a really interesting story where one Democrat candidate

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Speaker 1: Well, and I want to build on that for a

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Speaker 3: I think that's exactly what we could see happen here.

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Speaker 3: So remember Congress passed this law. Wasn't it wasn't me,

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Speaker 3: It's not a censorship provision, doesn't stop you from having

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Speaker 2: Commissioner, it's buck, thanks for being here with us. I

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Speaker 1: Whatever you think about me, I'm in then nine percentile

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Speaker 3: For decades, Americans love to sit down, turn on the

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Speaker 3: TV and just quickly find the game they wanted to watch.

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Speaker 3: And in recent years it's gotten a lot more complicated.

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Speaker 3: People have to sign up for bespoke streaming services that

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Speaker 3: can't find the game they want to watch. They're having

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Speaker 3: to sign up for trials of one platform just to

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Speaker 3: get a playoff game, and they got to remember to

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Speaker 3: cancel it down the road, and to your point, a

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Speaker 3: lot of them are paying more out of pocket and

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Speaker 3: that's a problem.

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Speaker 6: It's a real frustration.

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Speaker 3: There's a role for the SCC here too, though, because

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Speaker 3: as sports are broadcast over the year on TV, that

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Speaker 3: helps drive advertiser to local broadcasters and that's what ends

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Speaker 3: up funding local news and local reporting. So we're exploring

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Speaker 3: this relationship between sports and broadcasts because a lot of

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Speaker 3: people don't know this, but many years ago, Congress passed

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Speaker 3: the law, the Sports Broadcasting Act, that created anti trust

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Speaker 3: exemptions for the sports leagues. And that law was passed

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Speaker 3: when all of the games, if you weren't there in person,

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Speaker 3: we're broadcast for free over the year, and so as

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Speaker 3: more and more games start to go behind paywalls.

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Speaker 6: It starts to tug.

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Speaker 3: It's under some of the underpinnings of that Sports Broadcasting Act.

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Speaker 3: I think people are right to start to ask questions

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Speaker 3: of do we have the right regulatory framework right now?

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Speaker 1: Okay, this is very specific, and I don't know how

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Speaker 1: much attention you're paying to this, But twenty twenty nine,

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Speaker 1: the NFL can opt out of its existing contracts. NFL

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Speaker 1: is the biggest sports league in America clearly in terms

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Speaker 1: of audience. Right now, the games air over the air

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Speaker 1: free in quotation marks, but on CBS, nbcn Fox. Right

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Speaker 1: So for a lot of people out there, they watch

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Speaker 1: their favorite local team on CBS, NBC and Fox. There

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Speaker 1: is some talk that the NFL may decide to leave CBS, Nbcnfox.

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Speaker 1: Do you believe the FCC has an interest in the

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Speaker 1: NFL airing on CBS, NBC and Fox. Would the NFL

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Speaker 1: if they just pulled out and said we're no longer

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Speaker 1: going to air on those networks? I don't know to

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Speaker 1: your point that broadcast television even can exist as a

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Speaker 1: viable business given how much money they make in an

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Speaker 1: audience they grow off of the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Are you paying attention to that.

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Speaker 1: Is there a role given those games on CBS, NBC

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Speaker 1: and Fox.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is one of the most significant features of

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Speaker 3: broadcast TV right now, so much that local news and

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Speaker 3: local reporting works, and there's funding for it because that

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Speaker 3: great relationship between broadcasters in the NFL, and as that

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Speaker 3: contract comes due. If too many of those games start

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Speaker 3: to go behind the paywall, it's a problem on many fronts.

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Speaker 3: I think it's a problem for local news and for broadcasters.

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Speaker 3: I think it's a problem for consumers who will, I think,

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Speaker 3: continue to be frustrated with an inability to find the games.

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Speaker 3: And again, it starts to undermine some of the reasons

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Speaker 3: why we have that Sports Broadcasting Act.

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Speaker 6: Oh, there's some good reasons that come from this as well.

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Speaker 3: There are more games that are available now. There is

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Speaker 3: some upside, but there's a real consumer frustration. So I

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Speaker 3: hope that the NFL ultimately finds the right balance where

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Speaker 3: we still get these free over there games. That helps

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Speaker 3: grow the game, it brings additional audience to it. I

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Speaker 3: just don't think it's a great thing if we see

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Speaker 3: a critical mass start to go behind all sorts of

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Speaker 3: different paywalls.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because I mean, as a sports fan. If suddenly

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Speaker 1: CBSNBC and Fox don't have games, then you're demanding effectively

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Speaker 1: that everybody go subscribe, and it's not better for the consumer.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't think.

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Speaker 1: So there's a role in theory because of where those

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Speaker 1: games are for the FCC, and you're working through on

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Speaker 1: that angle.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, that's exactly right, and we're working at all that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the very first sports game ever to be broadcast,

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Speaker 3: but back I think the nineteen thirty nine World's Fair

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Speaker 3: in New York. It was a college baseball game, a

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Speaker 3: barnburner that was one two to one in ten innings.

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Speaker 3: In Americans have just had so much fun over the

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Speaker 3: years sitting down, grabbing a drink full of chips, watching

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Speaker 3: the game, and it's just become a frustrating experience. There's

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Speaker 3: so much in our lives right now that's frustrating that

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Speaker 3: drives Americans apart. I do want to see us continue

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Speaker 3: to have games on the air where lots of different

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Speaker 3: Americans are being brought together. I think it's been a

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Speaker 3: great beneficial relationship for sports leagues, for broadcasters, but really

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Speaker 3: for the American people.

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Speaker 1: No doubt, we appreciate the time FCC Commissioner Brendan car

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Speaker 1: If people are interested in this, what should they do

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Speaker 1: to let you know their perspective?

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Speaker 3: The public notice it would just put up on the

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Speaker 3: stec's website, SEC dot gov. I posted it out on

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Speaker 3: x and people can file their comments in that proceeding

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Speaker 3: and we're going to take a look at it.

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Speaker 2: Awesome. We appreciate the time, sir, keep up the good work.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk to you again soon.

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Speaker 6: Thanks much, appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: That's FCC Commissioner Brendan Carr. A super interesting story there,

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Speaker 1: among many others. When we come back, we'll dive in

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Speaker 2: Welcome back into Clay and Bock. Doctor Marty McCarey is

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Speaker 2: with us now. He is the Commissioner of the Food

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Speaker 2: and Drug Administration. Doctor McCarey, thanks for being here.

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Speaker 7: Good to be with you, guys.

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Speaker 2: So we have so many questions to throw your way,

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Speaker 2: and one of them that I wanted to ask you

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Speaker 2: about actually has to do with the status of getting

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Speaker 2: things expedited on the approval side of the equation here.

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Speaker 2: What are last time we talked to you, This was

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Speaker 2: something that was a focus of yours and even using

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Speaker 2: AI to move faster on this. What can you tell

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Speaker 2: us about now that we're a year in tell us

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Speaker 2: about the FDA approval pipe line being more efficient, moving faster,

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Speaker 2: not delaying. I mean, I'm here in Florida and people

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Speaker 2: are already talking all the time about reddititruetide doc, which

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Speaker 2: is the g you know, the next generation of GLP.

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Speaker 2: This is all the rage down here. People are already

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Speaker 2: talking and I will hold on, it's not even FDA

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Speaker 2: approved yet, And a lot of people go, yeah, well,

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Speaker 2: if the FDA is slow, and I go, well, hold

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Speaker 2: on a second, what's happening here? Is it going fast?

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Speaker 2: Is it going faster? What's happening?

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Speaker 7: Well, look, the FDA was slow.

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Speaker 9: We have a very clear mission more cures and meaningful

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Speaker 9: treatments for the American people, and so we're doing things differently.

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Speaker 9: We are cutting idle time or reducing red tape. And

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Speaker 9: we have an announcement today of a new drug that

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Speaker 9: was approved in forty four days. That's unheard of. Typically

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Speaker 9: it takes a year or so. And so we're doing

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Speaker 9: things at operation.

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Speaker 7: Warp speed like speed.

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Speaker 9: We need to treat every potential cure and powerful treatment

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Speaker 9: for somebody who's suffering with that same level of urgency.

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Speaker 7: So we're getting done right now.

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Speaker 9: We have the fastest approval times in US government history,

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Speaker 9: and we're gonna be moving even faster without cutting any

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Speaker 9: corners on quality or safety.

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Speaker 1: I know you have a editorial that was up at

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Speaker 1: the Wall Street Journal about how you're trying to move

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Speaker 1: quickly and in particular with rare diseases, and this jumped

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Speaker 1: out at me.

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Speaker 2: Rare.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we know certain diseases that impact tons of people,

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Speaker 1: but this data roughly one in eleven people are impacted

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Speaker 1: by quote unquote rare diseases comes to about thirty million Americans,

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Speaker 1: more common than asthma and type one diabetes combined.

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Speaker 2: Is what you write.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes those markets are challenging because it's harder for drug

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Speaker 1: companies to make substantial sums of money when they don't

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Speaker 1: have a huge audience necessarily to treat.

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Speaker 2: What is the impact of the moves you've made there, Well.

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Speaker 7: You're exactly right.

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Speaker 9: When you add up the number of people with a

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Speaker 9: rare disease, it's like one in eleven Americans. It's not

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Speaker 9: actually rare. Now, the system was set up for common

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Speaker 9: diseases at the FDA, but we're unleashing an entire sector

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Speaker 9: of investment and research by creating incentives to work on

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Speaker 9: rare diseases.

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Speaker 7: Now, some incentives existed.

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Speaker 9: But we were able to get the Priority Review Voucher program,

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Speaker 9: which creates market incentives, extends market exclusivity, expedites reviews, provides

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Speaker 9: tax credits for clinical trials, signed by President Trump three

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Speaker 9: weeks ago. But we're not stopping there. We have a

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Speaker 9: new pathway called the plausible mechanism pathway, where if the

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Speaker 9: mechanism of the drug sounds plausible, and it's an ultra

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Speaker 9: rare disease, you don't need to do a randomized trial

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Speaker 9: just doesn't make sense. And we also announce regulatory flexibilities.

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Speaker 9: We want to see companies thrive. If you're working on

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Speaker 9: a rare disease, we want to see you succeed.

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Speaker 2: And what can you tell me, doc about was talking

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Speaker 2: about GLP ones before, which obviously is a huge new

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Speaker 2: drug class which has been approved with ozembic and we

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Speaker 2: go V and all these things. Something like one in

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Speaker 2: ten Americans. I think I've already tried these. There's all

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Speaker 2: these other peptides that are all over the place, and

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Speaker 2: some people think that this is an important part of

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Speaker 2: the future of medicine. Now. I know that some of

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Speaker 2: these are not FDA approved, but this is still in

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Speaker 2: broad usage, and people talk about this stuff all the time,

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Speaker 2: things like BPC one five seven for recovery. You'll see

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Speaker 2: people talking about this online. Is the FDA going to

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Speaker 2: look at these peptides run studies on them. I'm just

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Speaker 2: wondering where that stands, because it seems like there's this

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Speaker 2: big gray area right now of things that are certainly

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Speaker 2: not banned but are not approved, but are becoming in

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Speaker 2: common usage because of the FDAs. The perception is the

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Speaker 2: FDA's slowness to see what's already happening.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, So first of all, people ask me what do

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Speaker 9: I think of peptides, and I point out that the

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Speaker 9: term peptides is a big tent. It's like saying, what

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Speaker 9: do you think about molecules? And there are some that

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Speaker 9: are effective, some that are not effective, some that are unknown,

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Speaker 9: and many that are safe.

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Speaker 7: So we'd like to see the data.

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Speaker 9: We'd like to see research go into a proper placebo

660
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Speaker 9: controlled trial so that people who are describing a benefit

661
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Speaker 9: can have that benefit sort of codified in the medical

662
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Speaker 9: literature and other people can benefit from it. But we

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Speaker 9: have not taken any restrictive actions on peptides unless they

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Speaker 9: are direct copycats of drugs that other companies have put

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Speaker 9: through the formal FDA process. And you gave the example

666
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Speaker 9: of red a truetide, which is a new weight loss drug.

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Speaker 9: There are copycat drugs out there while the phase three

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Speaker 9: clinical trial is still going on, and so we are

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Speaker 9: going to take action when it is a sort of

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Speaker 9: a knockoff of a drug that companies have put through

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Speaker 9: the process.

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Speaker 7: Properly.

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Speaker 2: We have a question. Sorry, We've got a lot of Well,

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Speaker 2: I was just going to ask about food supply stuff now,

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Speaker 2: because that's obviously been a huge focus of RFK Junior,

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Speaker 2: one of your colleagues here in the MAHA movement, trying

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Speaker 2: to get improvements to well, what's in the food supply,

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Speaker 2: what the guidance is about this? How is the FDA

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Speaker 2: playing into that these days?

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Speaker 7: Well, look, we have.

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Speaker 9: Never been taught, we have never talked in the medical

682
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Speaker 9: establishment about the root causes of our chronic disease epidemic. Instead,

683
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Speaker 9: we just blame patients for being sick. But it's not

684
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Speaker 9: a willpower problem. We have to look at school lunch

685
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Speaker 9: programs and the microbiome. And we rewrote the food pyramid

686
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Speaker 9: because the open secret was that old food pyramid was corrupt.

687
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Speaker 9: We're talking about the importance of protein that you get

688
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Speaker 9: from foods like steak and other meats, poultry, fish, and nuts.

689
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Speaker 9: You don't need to tiptoe around natural healthy fats in

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Speaker 9: your diet.

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Speaker 7: So we're telling.

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Speaker 9: People the truth and it's going to inform all of

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Speaker 9: the government purchasing that is done through SNAP and other

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Speaker 9: programs in the Trump administration. For the first time we

695
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Speaker 9: have snap waiver. Now we taxpayer dollars don't have to

696
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Speaker 9: go to sugar redrinks and ultra process junk food.

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Speaker 1: We're talking to FDA Commissioner Chair Marty McCarey. One of

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Speaker 1: the things we get asked about a lot. Buck's got

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Speaker 1: a young son. I've got three kids, But this is

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Speaker 1: a common topic among parents. Why does so many kids

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Speaker 1: today have allergies? And what is causing that? I know

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Speaker 1: you've kind of started to look into this. What should

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Speaker 1: parents know?

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Speaker 9: Well, there are some things every parent should know. But

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Speaker 9: it is amazing, Clay that when we were growing up,

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Speaker 9: I don't remember a single person with a peanut or

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Speaker 9: food allergy.

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Speaker 7: And there was one person.

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Speaker 9: I met when I was young who had a food allergy,

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Speaker 9: but it was mild.

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Speaker 7: Look at where we are today.

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Speaker 9: What happened One in ten kids now has a peanut

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Speaker 9: or food allergy. Well, part of it may be something

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Speaker 9: that's unknown that has changes to the microbiome. But the

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Speaker 9: modern day peanut and food allergy epidemic may have been

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Speaker 9: ignited by bad advice from the medical establishment. About twenty

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Speaker 9: five years ago, the American Academy Pediatrics told folks and

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Speaker 9: disseminated across the country that kids should avoid peanut butter

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Speaker 9: until they turned three. They thought that would reduce the

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Speaker 9: risk of panadalogies in the future, but they got it

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Speaker 9: perfectly backwards.

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Speaker 7: You reduce your risk of.

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Speaker 9: A penadalogy later in life through early introduction as soon

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Speaker 9: as a kid can eat at five, six seven months

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Speaker 9: of age. In early introduction and a sustained introduction of

726
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Speaker 9: a little bit of peanut butter, a little bit of

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Speaker 9: milk and eggs and other allergens, it's called immune tolerance.

728
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Speaker 9: And every parent needs to know best practices on this,

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Speaker 9: which is why we put together an FDA roundtable yesterday

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Speaker 9: that parents can watch on this topic.

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Speaker 2: Is there any reform that is underway to try to

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Speaker 2: make it so that things can I mean I was

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Speaker 2: talking about about moving more quickly in this process. We're

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Speaker 2: just getting information out to people about what the FDA

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Speaker 2: is looking at. I mean, obviously you're on this show

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Speaker 2: and you're the commissioner, and a lot of people listen

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Speaker 2: to the show, But I think that I get questions

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Speaker 2: a lot, Doctor McCarey. I'll just put it this way.

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Speaker 2: You know, when's the FDA going to do this? In

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Speaker 2: the next six months. Are they looking at that? Are

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Speaker 2: they still moving on this? How do people best find

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Speaker 2: this stuff? Or things like immunizations, for example, I have

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Speaker 2: so many listeners who want to know, are are they

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Speaker 2: looking into this? Are they going to have more recommendations

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Speaker 2: about the immunization schedule? Things along those lines. How are

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Speaker 2: you getting the information out there?

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Speaker 7: Well, great question.

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Speaker 9: I've been in office about ten months and we've announced

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Speaker 9: forty five major reforms. We've had numerous roundtables where we're

750
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Speaker 9: telling people the truth, like telling women the truth about

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Speaker 9: hormone replacement therapy and the profound short and long term benefits.

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Speaker 9: And there's actually a poll on the supply chain right

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Speaker 9: now of hormone therapy since we removed those scary black

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Speaker 9: box warnings. We're doing it with testosterone. So many topics

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Speaker 9: we're putting out there on our social media channels. People

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Speaker 9: need to know the truth. And when it comes to

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Speaker 9: peanut and food allergies, I want every parent to know

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Speaker 9: that you can significantly, by over eighty percent, reduce the

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Speaker 9: risk of your kid developing one of these allergies through

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Speaker 9: early and sustained introduction. We got a little boy at home.

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Speaker 9: He's about eight months old. We started introducing a little

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Speaker 9: bit of peanut powder, a little bit of peanut butter,

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Speaker 9: a little bit of milk, milk, a little bit of

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Speaker 9: eggs early as early as five months and that is

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Speaker 9: critical in reducing the risk of allergies amidst this modern

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Speaker 9: day epidemic.

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Speaker 2: What do you think.

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Speaker 1: I know we've had you on a lot over the

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Speaker 1: years surrounding COVID, and I know it's been six years

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Speaker 1: now and you were in the midst of all the

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Speaker 1: COVID fight and everything else. But it feels like to

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Speaker 1: me everybody just wants to pretend the whole COVID shot

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Speaker 1: era never happened, that there weren't all these demands that

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Speaker 1: you didn't have to carry around your papers. What is

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Speaker 1: the late and COVID this winter? Seems to I think

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Speaker 1: the flu you would know better than me. I think

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Speaker 1: the flu has been more prevalent this winter, and it's

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Speaker 1: actually been a pretty nasty flu than COVID. Even you

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Speaker 1: would know better than me as head of the FDA.

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Speaker 1: Where are we now with COVID and the COVID shots

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Speaker 1: and the interplay with the flu here in the winter.

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Speaker 9: Well, you're right, Influenza was much more common this current

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Speaker 9: season than COVID, and the flu shot didn't work very well.

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Speaker 9: It wasn't really a match for what was circulating out there.

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Speaker 9: You know, Clay, I look back and what a disaster

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Speaker 9: the public health response was to COVID shutting kids out

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Speaker 9: of school for nearly two years, cloth masks on toddlers

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Speaker 9: for three years, COVID boosters and perpetuity. I mean, they

789
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Speaker 9: literally had a program here at the FDA to approve

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Speaker 9: COVID boosters every year in perpetuity for young, healthy kids

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Speaker 9: without any clinical trial data. We said, we're getting back

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Speaker 9: to gold standard science, and we are keeping to Bobby

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Speaker 9: Kennedy's promise we're not going to take anyone's vaccines away.

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Speaker 9: But you're seeing a significant renaissance now where people are

795
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Speaker 9: recognizing where the risks are really are, what the core

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Speaker 9: essential vaccines really are, and by and large, young healthy

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Speaker 9: people are not taking that COVID booster every year.

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Speaker 2: What else is top? I mean, we've covered a lot here,

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Speaker 2: Doctor McCarry. Whenever you come on our show, it's like

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Speaker 2: the rapid fire because we just have a lot of

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Speaker 2: questions and obviously we know you from when during COVID

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Speaker 2: you were a voice of sanity amidst so much craziness,

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Speaker 2: and so we have tremendous respect for what you did

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Speaker 2: then and what you're trying to do now. But is

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Speaker 2: there anything just quite honestly, is there anything else that

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Speaker 2: all the folks listening a lot of parents, grandparents that

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Speaker 2: you're working on that's a core goal of the FDA

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Speaker 2: as long as you're in charge, that they should know about.

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Speaker 9: Well, thanks for asking, Buck. Look, I want to be

810
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Speaker 9: very clear with everybody. We want to see a cure

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Speaker 9: for type one diabetes in the current Trump administration. We

812
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 9: want to see a powerful treatment for stage four cancer

813
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 9: for certain GI cancers. There's a priority voucher that's been

814
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Speaker 9: issued to an amazing treatment that melts cancer away in

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Speaker 9: the GI track for the five to ten percent of

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Speaker 9: people with a certain mutation. We want to see a

817
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Speaker 9: powerful treatment for PTSD. Many of our soldiers are still dying.

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Speaker 9: Even though the wars are over, our men and women

819
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Speaker 9: are still dying. The battle is still raging in their minds.

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Speaker 9: We owe it to them to have a powerful treatment.

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Speaker 9: We're going to see what those clinical trials show, and

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Speaker 9: we'd like to see a universal flu shot so you

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Speaker 9: don't have to guess every year what the strain is

824
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Speaker 9: going to be and sometimes get it wrong, like we

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Speaker 9: did this year. You can get one shot for life

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Speaker 9: that gives you broad protection without the annual flu roundup.

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Speaker 2: How do we get play to be able to bench

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Speaker 2: three fifteen, Doctor McCarey. Is there anything in the pipeline

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Speaker 2: that can help Clay get to three fifteen?

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Speaker 7: Gosh, we could.

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Speaker 9: We could check his testosterone level, but I can't imagine

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Speaker 9: he's low on it.

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Speaker 7: But if he were there.

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Speaker 2: We go true. Now Clay, Clay's nodding in agreement. He's

835
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Speaker 2: got no worries there. But three fifteen is pretty heavy.

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Speaker 2: Our secretary war did it. I mean it's pretty impressive.

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Speaker 2: That's a big that's a big number. Well, doctor McCarey,

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Speaker 2: really appreciate you being when I.

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Speaker 9: Go to the gym, go ahead, and I go to

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Speaker 9: the gym, it's more like a rehab than it is

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Speaker 9: a workout compared to what bucks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm really I'm more of I'm turning into more

843
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Speaker 2: of a stretching guy these days, doctor McCarey than a

844
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Speaker 2: bench guy. You know. That's really trying to keep my

845
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Speaker 2: back to So, yeah, doctor appreciate you as always, any

846
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Speaker 2: time anything priority that we can help get the word

847
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Speaker 2: out about what you're doing, and MAHA and FDA and

848
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Speaker 2: everything else, please just let us know. Good to talk

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Speaker 2: to you, all right, Love you guys.

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Speaker 7: Nice a lot.

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Speaker 1: That is Marty McCarey doing great work. And I really

852
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Speaker 1: am never gonna forget how many few, how few the

853
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Speaker 1: numbers were buck of people that were in the trenches

854
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Speaker 1: six years ago during COVID pointing out how crazy this is,

855
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Speaker 1: and I.

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Speaker 2: Still, I mean, I know it's been six years.

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Speaker 1: Every time I fly, the number of people still wearing

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Speaker 1: masks is it's staggering to me.

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Speaker 2: Well, look at you, you random sports bro. I was

860
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Speaker 2: doing a political show. You're doing a sports show and

861
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Speaker 2: produce a mock who's actually like a normal American who

862
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Speaker 2: loves sports. Was like, you got to find this sports

863
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Speaker 2: guy named Clay, And I was like who, And he's like, Clay,

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Speaker 2: he's really good on masks. Clay. There were so few

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Speaker 2: people who were good on masks that I had to

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Speaker 2: go to the sports guy who knew that masks didn't work.

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Speaker 2: I just and here we are. I mean, I deeply yeah, Cod.

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Speaker 1: But six years later, there's still a lot of people

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Speaker 1: walking around in masks, and it's like people forget about

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Speaker 1: everything that we went through.

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Speaker 2: And I'm still pretty radicalized. I think over this. I'm

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Speaker 2: not over it.

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Speaker 1: for You. Something that went megaviral, and we talked about

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Speaker 1: on the program police officers being pelted by by bystanders

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Speaker 1: during this big snowstorm in New York City. They shared

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Speaker 1: photos of the individuals that they were seeking to arrest.

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Speaker 2: This morning.

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Speaker 1: According to the NYPD, they arrested a man named Guzman Kulabali.

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Speaker 1: That's my best guest, twenty seven years old. So they

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Speaker 1: tried to say, oh, these were just kids, twenty seven

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Speaker 1: year old for assaulting officers. He was one of the

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Speaker 1: guys who had one of the big It wasn't even

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Speaker 1: a snowball, It's like an ice boulder almost. And we

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Speaker 1: said on the program, hey, or I said, I would

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Speaker 1: bet a ton of money that whoever these guys were,

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Speaker 1: that they had criminal charge.

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Speaker 2: This wasn't a just you know, I love when you

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Speaker 2: make a long long shot call. This was a ten

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Speaker 1: So the guy was arrested, and what do you think

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Speaker 1: he had? Of course a previous arrest record. Less than

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Speaker 1: three weeks ago, he was arrested for attempted robbery on

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Speaker 1: the transits. Them again, if you are the kind of

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Speaker 1: person to see a police officer and think I want

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Speaker 1: to pelt these officers with snowballs and continue to do so.

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Speaker 1: Then you are the kind of person who likely has

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Speaker 1: engaged in criminal behavior in the past. But again, NYPD

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Speaker 1: has officially arrested this guy. Now we'll see how soon

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Speaker 1: Mam Donnie lets him out and whether there is any

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Speaker 1: actual process here. But again, twenty seven they tried to

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Speaker 1: say we played this cut mayor. Mam Donnie said, oh,

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Speaker 1: these are just little kids in a snowball fight. Twenty

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Speaker 1: seven year old who had been arrested for armed robbery

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Speaker 1: probably shouldn't have been out on the street anyway, and

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Speaker 1: he has now been arrested. So I hope Mam Donnie

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Speaker 1: will speak out and say, you know, I didn't handle

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Speaker 1: this as well as I could have, but I doubt

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Speaker 1: that he will.

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Speaker 2: There are reports, however.

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Speaker 1: That Mom Donnie is meeting with President Trump in the

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Speaker 1: Oval Office today, so there is a possibility that he

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Speaker 1: could be asked about this arrest, because I would imagine

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Speaker 1: buck that the President and Momdanie might have another one

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Speaker 1: of those joint press conferences. Reports that the two of

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Speaker 1: them are going to work on trying to build more

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Speaker 1: housing in New York City, which would theoretically bring down

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Speaker 1: the overall cost of rent and and other aspects associated

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Speaker 1: with residential cost there. So that news is out there

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Speaker 1: as we get ready to go into the third hour here.

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Speaker 2: Brook bringing down the cost of building residential units, because

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Speaker 2: that's really you're not really talking so much about single

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Speaker 2: family home in New York. You're gonna be talking about

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Speaker 2: apartment complexes. Bringing down that cost would be a remarkably

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Speaker 2: wise thing to do. The cost clay in specifically New

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Speaker 2: York State, or I should say New York City, and

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Speaker 2: then across the whole state of California, the additional costs

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Speaker 2: of building places to live that have nothing to do

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Speaker 2: with lumber, contract work, like just the environmental crap, the

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Speaker 2: regulatory nonsense, the tax burden, all this. It is astronomical, Yes, astronomical.

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Speaker 2: And what people say is they go, oh, well, well, the

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Speaker 2: rents are so high. It's a market. The rents are

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Speaker 2: high because they're supply and demand and people want to

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Speaker 2: live in these places. Yeah, and they have such zoning

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Speaker 2: restrictions that they will not allow additional housing to be created.

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Speaker 2: Artificial scarcity and demand. It's just supply demand. I mean,

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Speaker 2: we're not reinventing the wheel here. And remember when they

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Speaker 2: criticized Jade Vance when he said, hey, you know, if

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Speaker 2: we had fewer illegal immigrants, it would mean costs would

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Speaker 2: come down for overall rent. Guess what costs in many

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Speaker 2: different places are starting to come down. When we come back.

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Speaker 1: New Jersey stood up and said, stop picking on the

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Speaker 1: US men's hockey team gold medalist. We've got some fun

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Speaker 1: reaction to that. Also, can we get the audio pulled

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Speaker 1: of Kamala Harris saying she might be running? Does Buck

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Speaker 1: want to go ahead and relent and admit that yet

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Speaker 1: again I have won another steak.

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Speaker 2: We will discuss third hour rolling in next