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Speaker 1: at Bobby Fantasy Pro. All right, onto some fantasy football.

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Speaker 1: On today's show, We're gonna be covering some of the

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Speaker 1: and I have some trivia questions for you listeners to

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Speaker 1: of rotoworld dot com. Good morning, ray Hey, how's it going.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me on. It's going great. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: coming on the show today. Man, I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 1: It's to the point where I'm already dreaming about fantasy

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Speaker 1: first draft can't come soon enough. Yeah, I have a

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Speaker 1: It's for something called the Flex League, which Jake Seeley

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Speaker 1: So I think that you I think that's a great point,

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Speaker 1: I think that that's a great way to look at it.

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Speaker 1: people who you know, spend their weeks and it's their

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Speaker 1: him number eight in my Big board. Still, if you'd

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Speaker 1: any flex player all time. I really believe that, highling

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Speaker 1: him and especially the dallas On's offensive line. Now with

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Speaker 1: like this is the type of player that Belichick would

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Speaker 1: take a big gamble on what do you think? Well,

430
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Speaker 1: I think everything out of Cleveland so far I suggest

431
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Speaker 1: that they're going to keep him, and so that that

432
00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:06,280
Speaker 1: I mean, His agent, Drew Rosenhouse, said that Hugh Jackson's

433
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Speaker 1: very committed. The Browns statement said, we're gonna come in,

434
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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk to him, We're gonna give him a shot.

435
00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,719
Speaker 1: He reported to camp two days early. It seems to

436
00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:15,760
Speaker 1: me that they're going to give it another shot. But

437
00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,560
Speaker 1: I think there would be callers. I mean, New England's interesting.

438
00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:20,840
Speaker 1: They have a they kind of have a glut of

439
00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:25,119
Speaker 1: receivers at this point with Chris Hogan, with Malcolm Mitchell,

440
00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,760
Speaker 1: who was a receiver I really liked coming out this

441
00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,439
Speaker 1: year in the pre draft process. So they have a

442
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Speaker 1: glood of wide receivers. They're gonna have to cut good

443
00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,359
Speaker 1: wide receivers. They're gonna have to cut, you know, a

444
00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,840
Speaker 1: good veteran wide receiver like Nate Washington. Probably, So I

445
00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,439
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know where that stands. Josh Gordon,

446
00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:42,840
Speaker 1: if he's healthy, is better than those guys. But I

447
00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:44,479
Speaker 1: don't know how much they're gonna be willing to give

448
00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,359
Speaker 1: up for him. But there are there are places in

449
00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,840
Speaker 1: the league where where he could go and be interesting,

450
00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,879
Speaker 1: and so I think that a trade would be interesting

451
00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:57,440
Speaker 1: for his value. I don't see it happening based on everything,

452
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Speaker 1: based on everything I've read, are everything the Browns have said,

453
00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,280
Speaker 1: and all the leaks that have come out since he

454
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Speaker 1: was you know, quote un I guess conditionally reinstated. So

455
00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:10,439
Speaker 1: I'm I'm not I'm not banking on a trade, but

456
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Speaker 1: I do think it would be interesting if he ended

457
00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,600
Speaker 1: up somewhere like New England. Now we're gonna move on

458
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Speaker 1: to talk about some of the most undervalued fantasy players

459
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Speaker 1: this season, and in order to determine value, we're going

460
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Speaker 1: to be looking at Fantasy Pro's Expert Consensus Rankings, which

461
00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,760
Speaker 1: is built from an aggregated ranking of eighty five experts.

462
00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 1: If you want, you can set your own expert Accuracy Rankings,

463
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Speaker 1: then choose which experts you want to include in your

464
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Speaker 1: own custom ECR. For the exercise, we'll be looking at

465
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Speaker 1: the default sixty one expert rankings, and I've asked Ray

466
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Speaker 1: to build a power ranking of his top five most

467
00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 1: undervalued players. I've done the same. It's now what we're

468
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Speaker 1: gonna do. We're gonna go back and forth sharing our

469
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Speaker 1: most undervalued players and Ray, who do you have at

470
00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:56,439
Speaker 1: number five? Oh, we're starting from the bottom. I'll go.

471
00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:01,160
Speaker 1: I'll go with Ladarius Green. Interesting who I have as

472
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,679
Speaker 1: the tight end five. I believe he's the tight end

473
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:07,880
Speaker 1: nine and the expert consensus rankings. If anybody is set

474
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,639
Speaker 1: to benefit from the suspensions in Pittsburgh, it's probably the

475
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Speaker 1: Ladarius Green. I have to think that his addition in

476
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,400
Speaker 1: March and free agency had something to do with Martavis

477
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 1: bryant suspension, which was announced three days after he signed.

478
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,399
Speaker 1: But very clearly Pittsburgh knew what was happening before, you know,

479
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 1: before it leaked to the press. You know, he has

480
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,119
Speaker 1: the athleticism to be a factor both down the field

481
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 1: and after the catch. There are so many plays from

482
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Speaker 1: last year. I remember one against the Lions that just

483
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,920
Speaker 1: stick out of his ability to make a short reception

484
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 1: and make a guy miss, run past a guy, and really,

485
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 1: you know, exploit the soft spots in the defense, which

486
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,160
Speaker 1: is something that they asked Martavis Bryant to do quite

487
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 1: a bit last season. He can also get downfield in

488
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,240
Speaker 1: the seam. I think that he's if you're looking for somebody,

489
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,119
Speaker 1: I know Sammy Coates and Marcus Wheat and get the press.

490
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:56,680
Speaker 1: But if you're looking for someone who's really going to

491
00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:01,440
Speaker 1: help alleviate the problems that were when Martavis Bryant was suspended,

492
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,160
Speaker 1: I think Green is that guy. And then you look

493
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,920
Speaker 1: at the red zone targets lost both with Brian and

494
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,400
Speaker 1: for the first four games Levon Bell now'd Angela Williams

495
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,879
Speaker 1: took a lot of those last year, but there are

496
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 1: going to be some red zone opportunities. I think Green

497
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,640
Speaker 1: can help there. So I like Ladarius Green a lot.

498
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,680
Speaker 1: I think that he's has top five upside. I'm willing

499
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:24,400
Speaker 1: to draft him there because I'm not as worried about

500
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,479
Speaker 1: missing on a tight end as I would be at

501
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 1: other positions because of the streaming opportunity, and so I

502
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,400
Speaker 1: think that he's a really good value. You're exactly right.

503
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,919
Speaker 1: Someone's going to have to get those targets in Pittsburgh,

504
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 1: And for me, I had Sammy Coates in my honorable

505
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 1: mention Green. That's interesting the way that you see it

506
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 1: fitting together, and I could definitely see that. My number

507
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,400
Speaker 1: five guy is Kirk Cousins and the reason for that.

508
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,919
Speaker 1: Right now, he's going in the twelfth round and He

509
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:54,119
Speaker 1: finished the season with twenty three touchdowns, three interceptions, and

510
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 1: four rushing touchdowns. He was the best quarterback at the

511
00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 1: end of the season last year, and he's going this

512
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 1: eight now. I'm like you, I don't like the draft

513
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,639
Speaker 1: quarterbacks really and if someone does reach for Cousins, you

514
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,639
Speaker 1: know what, they can go and have him. But I

515
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 1: think one twenty six, which is where he's ranked right now,

516
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,120
Speaker 1: was a little bit too low. So he's my number

517
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 1: five guy, and Raymond, who do you have at number four? Well,

518
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 1: first of all, I agree with Cousins completely. I think

519
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 1: that he is clearly on the fringe of the quarterback

520
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 1: one quarterback one tier and he's not being drafted like

521
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,199
Speaker 1: that at all, which is which is just crazy to me.

522
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 1: I think that that is that's a great pick. Fourth

523
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,880
Speaker 1: for me would be Michael Floyd, who is a guy

524
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,360
Speaker 1: that has burned people so many times, and I think

525
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 1: we're still we're still kind of like wary of trusting

526
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 1: Michael Floyd. But he caught forty four passes for seven

527
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 1: hundred and forty five yards and six touchdowns over the

528
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 1: final twelve weeks last season. He missed one of those

529
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 1: games in the twelve final twelve weeks, he was limited

530
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 1: to decoy duties in another and the Cardinals basically quit

531
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 1: on another of those games. So he produced at a

532
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 1: really high level over the final twelve weeks despite it

533
00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,920
Speaker 1: even not being an ideal situation. He had five hundred

534
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,399
Speaker 1: yard games and had one hundred and ten standard Fantasy

535
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 1: points over that span, which was the seventeenth most. So

536
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 1: that is a long That is a long period in NFL.

537
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 1: I suppose an NFL language, that's a long period of

538
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 1: consistent wide receiver to production. And he's going into a

539
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 1: contract year. I don't subscribe to that, but I do

540
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,400
Speaker 1: think that there is a situation here where he's going

541
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 1: to They're going to see if he can be the guy,

542
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 1: can he take over for Fitzgerald, who's also in a

543
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 1: contract year, and can he be the guy next to

544
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 1: John Brown for the next several years? And so I

545
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 1: think that Floyd is going to take on the reins.

546
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 1: I think he will be at least close to the

547
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,120
Speaker 1: most targeted receiver in Arizona. When I look at him

548
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 1: and John Brown, who also deserves some mention here, he's

549
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,639
Speaker 1: the he's the thirtieth wide receiver in the ECR. I

550
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 1: think he's probably hired than that. I haven't in the twenties.

551
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 1: But when you look at those two guys, I think

552
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 1: those two guys are clearly going to lead Arizona and

553
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 1: targets and fantasy production, and both of them are coming

554
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 1: at a pretty low cost. So I am. I'm excited

555
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,439
Speaker 1: about both those guys, but I'm excited most about Michael Floyd.

556
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: You talk about the end of the season. He had

557
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 1: five of those eight games he snared over a hundred

558
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 1: receiving yards. If he can keep up the pace he

559
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 1: had in the second half of the season for a

560
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,159
Speaker 1: full season, he would have been ranked right up there

561
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 1: with Demarius Thomas and t Y Hilton. Right now, he

562
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 1: is much lower ranked than those guys, So I'm right

563
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 1: with you. I like Floyd a lot this season. My

564
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,679
Speaker 1: number four guys Thomas Rawls right now, he comes in

565
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 1: at number thirty seven, And look, I know there's some

566
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 1: competition at the position, apparently because Rawls is recovering from

567
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 1: an injury, but you know what, Prossy is also recovering

568
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 1: from an injury, and you know it's a hip injury,

569
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 1: which is really tough for a running back. If you

570
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 1: look at what Rawls did last season, he was tied

571
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,159
Speaker 1: with Carlos Williams for the NFL lead five point one

572
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 1: yards per carry. Backfield's all his now, as far as

573
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,360
Speaker 1: I'm concerned, he's every bit as talented as David Johnson.

574
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 1: I know David Johnson's going in the first and Rawls

575
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 1: is going in the late third. So look, I'm not

576
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 1: saying draft Rawls over Johnson, but if you look at

577
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 1: what he did, he started six games, seven hundred and

578
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,400
Speaker 1: twelve rushing yards in those contests. As far as I'm concerned,

579
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,880
Speaker 1: if you don't reach for Thomas Rawls, you don't want

580
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,120
Speaker 1: to win your league. Thomas Rawles is my number four.

581
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,360
Speaker 1: And I think on the Rawles point, I mean there

582
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 1: are some there are some real concerns there. They drafted

583
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 1: three running backs. I think that when they drafted those

584
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 1: three running backs it was a it was a different situation.

585
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 1: They weren't as maybe confident in roles recovery. They stuff

586
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,919
Speaker 1: Christine Michael for whatever that's worth, and so there are

587
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 1: there are some there are some mitigating factors. But you're right,

588
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,679
Speaker 1: he was so good that offense is set up to

589
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 1: be just a running juggernut rushing Juggernaut. They're able to

590
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 1: do that year after year because of their scheme, which

591
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 1: is pure zone. They're able to do year after year

592
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 1: despite a pretty bad offensive line. So I think that's

593
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 1: a good call. I think that he's he's a little

594
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: bit undervalued. My third will be someone you actually just mentioned,

595
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 1: who's t Y Hilton, who I think that the reason

596
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 1: I put t Y Hilton in here is not that

597
00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 1: he's He's not particularly undervalued. In the ECR. He's fifteenth

598
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,239
Speaker 1: the ECR, he's ten for me, which I suppose at

599
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 1: that level of the rankings is a pretty big difference.

600
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 1: But he's even in the ADP he's even lower than that.

601
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: I believe he's closer to twenty. So he is being

602
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 1: undervalued by the public for sure, even if not as

603
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 1: much by experts. But I quote unquote expertise you today,

604
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: but I am completely in on the Colts this season,

605
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 1: and I think that Hilton, who was the wide receiver

606
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:26,199
Speaker 1: twelve and standard scoring in per game standard scoring in

607
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen and was basically on pace to do the

608
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: same thing last year with Luck, I think Hilton is

609
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 1: really going to benefit from Andrew Luck coming back healthy

610
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 1: from that offensive line being better, probably with Ryan Kelly

611
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 1: at center and with some stability along the offensive line

612
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: they should have. I believe everybody but right guard is

613
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 1: pretty much set in at this point, and the fact

614
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,239
Speaker 1: that they lost over two and twenty targets last year. Now,

615
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,479
Speaker 1: a lot of those will go to Duyne Allen, who

616
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: will take over a lot of Kobe Fleiner's role. A

617
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: lot of those will go to Philip doors Set, a

618
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 1: lot of those you know will go to Dante Moncrief.

619
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: Maybe some of them will go to Dante Moncrief. But

620
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 1: there's an opportun tunity here for Hilton to better his

621
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: career high and targets and to get into the one

622
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty range, which would be huge for a

623
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: guy with his kind of per catch efficiency. So I

624
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 1: think that I think that there's an opportunity for Hilton

625
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: to have his best season. And he was then wide

626
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 1: receiver twelve two years ago, was on basically that pace

627
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 1: last year with Luck healthy, So I think there's upside

628
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: for a top ten season for Hilton. You know, our

629
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: experts really like t Y Hilton two. They rank him

630
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: eighty four percent of them say that he's better than

631
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 1: his average draft position. Right Now my thing with Hilton is,

632
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: I mean, you look at what he's done, and he

633
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: might not be the most flashy player. He might not

634
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: be the best red zone target. I mean, he only

635
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: had five receiving touchdowns last year, but that's due for

636
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 1: regression with how many balls he gets thrown his way.

637
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: Like you said, one hundred and thirty four last year.

638
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 1: He's lucks guy and whoever lux guy is is going

639
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: to be a great player. And you know a lot

640
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: of people are thinking Moncrief might morph towards that role,

641
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: but I'm not seeing it. T Y Hilton is that guy,

642
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: and I'm with you. I'm drafting him above his ECR,

643
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 1: his ADP. I'm not going to reach for him like

644
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 1: some of the other guys on my list, but I'm

645
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 1: being on t Y Hilton. So it seems like so

646
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 1: far we have some of the same names. I'm curious

647
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 1: what you think about this guy. My number three, Richard Matthews.

648
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: Right now, he's going number one fifty four. But if

649
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: you look at what he did, and again I needed

650
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: to get to my notes, So if you look at

651
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 1: what he did between week two and week ten when

652
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: he was healthy, he had thirty eight receptions for six

653
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: hundred and thirteen receiving yards a full season. That would

654
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: have been comparable to AJ Green and Mike Evans. I mean, look,

655
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: I know Dorial Greenbeckham has a higher ceiling, but Matthews is.

656
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: If Matthews is healthy like they say he is, he

657
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: could really blow up this season. And where he's being drafted,

658
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: it's just way too low. I'm getting him on every

659
00:30:58,080 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: single one of my teams. What do you think, Grammont,

660
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: he was actually my co number two, so we are

661
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: completely in I have him ranked as the forty seventh receiver.

662
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: He DCR sixty one. He's basically undrafted in the ADP.

663
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: You know, I think that all of the stuff you

664
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: said is correct. I would say that there is a

665
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: pretty good chance that he leads the wide receivers in

666
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 1: Tennessee and targets over Dorial Greenbeckham, who I am losing

667
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: confidence in you by the hour, it seems like. And

668
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: he has, low key over the last three years, been

669
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: a really, really good receiver, and last season he absolutely

670
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: dominated in the intermediate portions of the field, especially in

671
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: the intermediate middle, which is where Marcus Mariota thrives. And

672
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 1: so you're looking at a situation where he matches up

673
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: perfectly with what Marcus Mariota does, and the fact that

674
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: you're able to get him for almost basically an undrafted cost.

675
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 1: I think is I think is crazy, and I have him.

676
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: I have him in pretty much every league. I think

677
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: I have him in an almost every draft I've done

678
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,479
Speaker 1: so far, I've had him. Another guy who was my

679
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: other co number two, because I think these two guys

680
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: are very similar, is Brandon LaFell, who is the seventy

681
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 1: fifth in the ECR, and I have him forty ninth.

682
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: You know, Brandon LaFell, people I think just conveniently forget

683
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 1: because of the drops last year, because of how bad

684
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: he was last year that he had that he had

685
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: a really good season two years ago. He had seventy

686
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 1: four catches for nine hundred and fifty three yards and

687
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: seven touchdowns. Now he's in Cincinnati, and Cincinnati, if you

688
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: really look at their depth chart, they don't have anyone

689
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: other than AJ Green. I mean, it's AJ Green, it's LaFell,

690
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: it's Tyler Boyd, who they've already confirmed as a slot

691
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: receiver and as a guy that I absolutely don't think

692
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 1: is very good. I did not like him at all

693
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: in the pre draft process. And then Tyler Eifford is

694
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: hurt and probably gonna miss at least the first couple

695
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: games of the season and has some regression, has a

696
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: regression look about him in some of his stats. So

697
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: you look at that receiving corps that was, you know,

698
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: pretty effective last year. The passing game was really efficient

699
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 1: last year. They're gonna have to throw to someone other

700
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: than aj Green sometimes. I mean, he might get two

701
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: hundred targets, but they gonna have to throw to somebody else.

702
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: I think that Brandon LaFell is a really sneaky bet

703
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 1: for one hundred targets, and he is absolutely free in drafts.

704
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: You can get him in the last round of most drafts,

705
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: and I am willing to I'm willing to take that

706
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: bet in any league and I have him. I think

707
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: on every team. The guys a fantasy pros are gonna

708
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: be amazed that I'm putting this guy number two, because

709
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 1: they would definitely think I would have him at number

710
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: one considering how much I love Sterling Shepherd. I'm sure

711
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: you guys are wondering who's number one, But Sterling Shepherd's

712
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: my number two right now. His ECRs won oh weight.

713
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: It was one twenty eight earlier in the month, so

714
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 1: he is moving up. He's getting a lot of hype,

715
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 1: and you know, I know this is a guy that

716
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: a lot of people are gonna think he's getting too

717
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: much hype. I'm not going to buy him, but beans

718
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: across from Odell Beckham Junior is a big deal. He

719
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: was drawing two sometimes three people garden him, and Sterling

720
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 1: Shepherd is the perfect compliment for him. He runs great routes,

721
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 1: he's eightning quick, he finds seems in the field, and

722
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,959
Speaker 1: Eli Manning is you know, I know he's not at

723
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: least I don't consider him a Hall of Fame quarterback

724
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 1: by any means, but you know he is going to

725
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: find that open guy. And if Beckham drawing two three

726
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 1: guys garden him, Shepherd might might get ninety receptions this

727
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 1: year as a rookie. I know he's not going as

728
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 1: high as some of the other rookies, but Shephard is

729
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 1: my guy. What do you think, Raymond, how do you

730
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: feel on Shepherd? I really don't like that we're agreeing.

731
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a good sign. I don't

732
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: know if I don't know if it's good podcasting, but

733
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 1: I actually completely with you. I mean Ruben Randall, the

734
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 1: much maligned Ruben Randall, had eight hundred yards and eight

735
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: touchdowns last year on ninety targets. I don't see any

736
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: reason Sterling Shepherd can't get ninety targets. I think it's

737
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,839
Speaker 1: become clear that even though Cruz is healthy right now,

738
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 1: and even if he makes it into the season healthy,

739
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 1: that he's the number three. They're really trusting Cruise. And

740
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: if you look at Eli Manning's numbers over the last

741
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: two years, you know, in the Ben Macadoo era, he's

742
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 1: thrown for forty four hundred yards, thirty and thirty five touchdowns.

743
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: He's had over a five percent touchdown percentage. He's had

744
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: a two point three percent interception percentage, which is well

745
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,280
Speaker 1: below his league average or his career average. Eli Manning

746
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: has not just been okay for Eli Manning. He has

747
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 1: been good. He's a good last two years, over six

748
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: hundred ten both years. He's a good quarterback. He's a

749
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 1: really good fantasy quarterback. Those passes are gonna have to

750
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: go to someone other than ODB. They're gonna need somebody

751
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 1: other than Odell Beckham. So he is. He has a

752
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 1: lot of upsides Sterling Shepherd. I do worry that the

753
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: hype train, the echo chamber known as Twitter is going

754
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 1: to is going to send him a little higher than

755
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: maybe he should be. I wouldn't take him ahead of

756
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: Corey Coleman, for instance, if we're talking about rookie receivers,

757
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: but behind Coleman, I really don't know any other rookie

758
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 1: receiver that I take ahead of him. You talk about

759
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 1: Victor Cruz, and the interesting thing is, from what I've understood,

760
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: the giants think of Shepherd as the second coming of

761
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: Victor Cruz. I mean, we remember how Victor Cruz broke out.

762
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: He just gets a ton of separation and Eli Manning

763
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: got him the ball. You know, it's interesting you say

764
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: that because Victor Cruz had very similar workout numbers to

765
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: Sterling Shepherd. His pro day numbers he ran a four

766
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 1: four seven forty at a forty one and a half

767
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: vertically at ten and a half arten oh five broad jump,

768
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: And when you go look at Sterling Shepherd's numbers, I

769
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 1: believe that was exactly His vertical jump is around his

770
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: forty yard dash. So when you look at Sterling Shepherd.

771
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 1: I think that physically he's a pretty good match with

772
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: Victor Cruze. So it's interesting that you would say that

773
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: they interesting that you would say that they see him

774
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: as the second coming. My number one guy, and I've

775
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: said this so many times and written it so many

776
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: times that anybody who knows me and hears me say

777
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 1: this is going to roll their eyes. But my number

778
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 1: one guy, and it's not close, is Frank Gore. I

779
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: absolutely love at even above his ECR, which is twenty four,

780
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: which is much higher than his adper, considerably higher than

781
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: his ADP. I have him as the fifteenth running back.

782
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 1: He finishes the running back eleven overall. Last year in

783
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 1: standard leagues, he was twenty first and points per game,

784
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,879
Speaker 1: which is still higher than where he's ranked right now,

785
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 1: despite playing for a terrible offense, And when you look

786
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: at his splits with Andrew Luck and without Andrew Luck,

787
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: he averaged around three point two yards per carry without

788
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,399
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck, he averaged just over four point one with

789
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck. So he was much more efficient with Andrew Luck.

790
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: In the offense, they have a better offensive line. If

791
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: Ryan Kelly, their first round center, is who they seem

792
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: to think he is and what he's looked like in

793
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 1: the offseason program. That should help their offensive line immensely,

794
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: because the interior of the line was the real problem.

795
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: Having luck in there a quarterback who can actually throw

796
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 1: more than ten yards down the field. I'll due respect

797
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 1: to Matt hasselback, but someone who can throw more than

798
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: ten yards down the field, that's going to help him.

799
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: I think that. I think there's an opportunity here that

800
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: Frank Gore is a high end running back to that

801
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: really surprises, and you can get him much much lower

802
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 1: than that in drafts if you're going zero running back,

803
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 1: which based on what we talked about with Levon Bell,

804
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: how awful the top of the running back group is.

805
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: If you're going zero running back, I think Frank or

806
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 1: someone you have to have on your team in every

807
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: single league. Raymond. I'm looking at what our other experts think,

808
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: and eighty two percent of them have him ranked over

809
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 1: the ADP. But I see your name right there at

810
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 1: the top of the list. You have him number fifteen

811
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: and you are number one, but there's plenty of other

812
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: guys who have him in their top twenty. This is

813
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 1: the first guy that we really disagree on and the

814
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: reason we disagree is because when I'm drafting a mid

815
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 1: round running back, I'd like to get a guy with

816
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: a lot of upside. And I know that you think

817
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: he has upside, but I'm not a big believer in it.

818
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: He didn't have a hundred rushing yards in one single

819
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 1: game last season. Towards the end of the season, even

820
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 1: with luck out, he was getting less than twenty carries

821
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: per game. I mean, in fact, he never got over

822
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 1: twenty carries per game. So I'm thinking the age is

823
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: actually finally starting to catch up with him. Now. I

824
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 1: very well could be wrong, and we'll see in your

825
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 1: expert accuracy ranking next year if you were right about

826
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: this one. Yeah, and I mean I think that. I

827
00:38:56,520 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 1: think the age is a very fair comment. Do I

828
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 1: understand that thirty three year old running backs have not

829
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: traditionally done this, not since John Riggins have done had

830
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: a half thousand yards season. I understand all of that,

831
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 1: But Frank Gore hasn't missed a game in five years.

832
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 1: He's known as the inconvenient truth for a reason, and

833
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: he didn't really show to me, at least on tape.

834
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: I know the numbers don't look great, but the numbers

835
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: look a lot better with Andrew luck in there, but

836
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 1: at least on tape, he didn't show to me like

837
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: he was really slowing down, And I think there's an

838
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: opportunity for him to be considerably better this year. So

839
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,760
Speaker 1: I am I'm writing it. And the good news is

840
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 1: is that if that age concern, which like I said,

841
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,240
Speaker 1: I think is a very valid concern, I understand it completely.

842
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: But if that age concern turns out to be true,

843
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:42,839
Speaker 1: you're not really paying that much to get him. So

844
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: I think that I think that he is a fairly

845
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: low risk guy that has maybe more upside than he

846
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: gets credit for. You know, if I'm to bet on

847
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: anyone in the NFL getting at least two hundred and

848
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,359
Speaker 1: fifty carries this season, it's going to be Frank Gore.

849
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 1: I mean, they're not going to give carries to Josh

850
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 1: Ferguson when they're trying to make the playoffs. They're going

851
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: to give the rock to Frank Gore and he's gonna

852
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: run it right up the middle and he's gonna stay healthy.

853
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: And I can't really say that for anyone ahead of him.

854
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: You know, part of my part of the reason that

855
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: I wasn't a big fan of Frank Gore was the

856
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:15,320
Speaker 1: three point seven yards per carry, But you already mentioned

857
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 1: that a lot of that was because Luck wasn't in

858
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 1: the offense and so they were stacking guys in the box.

859
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,399
Speaker 1: So I may come around on my opinion, but I'm

860
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: really interested to hear what you think about my number

861
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 1: one guy, and my number one guy is Chris Thompson.

862
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 1: Chris Thompson isn't being drafted in most leagues. We're talking

863
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: about one ninety for his ADP. He's the number two

864
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: back for the Redskins. But Matt Jones has butterfingers and

865
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,879
Speaker 1: he has him bad. Chris Thompson had six point two

866
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 1: yards per carry, and as far as I'm concerned, he

867
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: has a humongous ceiling. Worries being drafted is just way

868
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 1: too low. I think he's gonna end up getting the

869
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: bulk that carries for the Redskins, and this time next year,

870
00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: I would not be surprised if he's being draft in

871
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: the first rounds. I think he's that good and I

872
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: think he's going to win himself a job, maybe even

873
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 1: by week one. Now, what do you think, Raymond? We

874
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 1: finally find disagreement. I don't think Chris Thompson is that

875
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 1: kind of back. I just don't. And he has back problems.

876
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: He's had back problems. He has trouble staying on the field,

877
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 1: even in a third down role. I mean that was

878
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 1: one of the things last year with him. He had

879
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 1: a run last year where he was a pretty good

880
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 1: PPR back. I think he had a run where he

881
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,240
Speaker 1: was putting up running back three numbers in PPR leagues

882
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 1: four or five weeks in a row, and then he

883
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: got hurt. And going into last year in training camp,

884
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 1: we were talking about, well, who's going to be their

885
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: third down back, and everybody's talking about Chris Thompson, and

886
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 1: then Jake Gruden comes out and say, yeah, well he

887
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 1: has to stay healthy. So I think that there is

888
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 1: a long, long running problem with injuries with him, and

889
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: I don't I don't really see him as a guy

890
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,720
Speaker 1: that's going to come in and take that three down work, which,

891
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: by the way, is one of the reasons why I'm

892
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: okay with Matt Jones is running back too, because now

893
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 1: that the Arian Foster bullet has been dodged, I don't

894
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 1: know who is going to steal his work. I mean,

895
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: maybe you're right, maybe it's Chris Thompson. He doesn't strike

896
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: me as that guy. I mean Keith Marshall. He I mean,

897
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: he's running behind someone named Mac Brown in you know,

898
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 1: in mini camp. I'm perfectly content saying I don't know

899
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 1: who Mac Brown is. I'm assuming it's not the former

900
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 1: ut head coach, but I can't be sure about that.

901
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 1: So I think that I think that there are you know,

902
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: there are there are big holes in that in that

903
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 1: running back group. Now where I would agree with you

904
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: is I think that in PPR leagues Thompson might be

905
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 1: being undervalued because, like I said, he did have a

906
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 1: run where he was pretty good, but taking all of

907
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: the carries, I just, I just I can't see a

908
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: guy like him, with his injury history, you know, being

909
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 1: that guy. I can definitely understand the pessimism. For me,

910
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,919
Speaker 1: it's just about upside. I think for guys going that late,

911
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: he is the most upside of anyone. And so, like

912
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: you mentioned on another player before, he's basically free, you know,

913
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,359
Speaker 1: if it doesn't work out, if he doesn't get carries him.

914
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: But I'm taking my chances with Chris Thompson this year.

915
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: Now let's move over and look at some of the

916
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 1: top training training camp battles and storylines. Training camp started yesterday.

917
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: The first one I want to consider is the Broncos

918
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: QB battle. Whoever wins this thing has Damarius Thomas and

919
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: Emmanuel Sanders to throw too, But Raymond, Who's it going

920
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 1: to be? I think it's gonna be Sanchez. But is

921
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 1: I don't care an acceptable answer because I just don't

922
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 1: see I don't see where the value comes from. I

923
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: think that with Peyton gone, we're actually going to get

924
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 1: to see a Gary Kubiak offense. I think that that

925
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,839
Speaker 1: will you know, whoever wins this job, whether it be

926
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 1: Mark Sanchez or whether it's Trevor Simeon, which is just

927
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: stunning that is that is a possible option for the

928
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: defending Super Bowl champs, or whether it's Paxton Lynch, who

929
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: probably will make starts at some point in the season.

930
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 1: After Sanchez throws four interceptions in a game, I just

931
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: don't see any of them being fantasy viable. I do

932
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: like the idea Sanchez starting, as it pertains to Damarus

933
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: Thomas and Emmanuel Sanders. I think that Sanchez, even though

934
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:07,919
Speaker 1: he is mistake prone, and I don't think anybody would

935
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 1: argue that I believe that he is a competent NFL

936
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 1: quarterback and that makes me. That makes me think that

937
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 1: he will be able to deliver the ball to those

938
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 1: two guys. But short of the effect it has on

939
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: Thomas and Sanders, I just really don't care at all.

940
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: I'm right with you. I don't think it matters outside

941
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: of QB two leagues. I do think Sanchez is going

942
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 1: to win the job. But every time I see someone

943
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: like Simeon, I can't help but think, but what if

944
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: he's Kurt Warner? You know what I mean? And I

945
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: know that's just the Saint Louis coming out in me,

946
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: because that's probably never going to happen again. But what

947
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:44,879
Speaker 1: if he's Kurt Warner? Man? I mean, like the fact

948
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 1: that the fact that they keep putting it out there

949
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 1: in the world, the Broncos are very clearly leaking out

950
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: to the world that he has a real chance to

951
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 1: win the job. I don't believe that. I don't think

952
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: they believe that. I don't think anybody the team believes that.

953
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 1: But the fact that they keep leaking it out there

954
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 1: to the world jest that it is at least within

955
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 1: the realm of possibilities, and that is that is a

956
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 1: really interesting Like I said, that is a very interesting

957
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 1: situation for the defending Super Bowl champs. It's just very confusing.

958
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 1: Like if he wins the job, I'm adding in my

959
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 1: roster jest in case, because why would they give him

960
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,760
Speaker 1: the job unless he's something special? Because he doesn't. Because

961
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 1: he can he can properly turn around and hand the

962
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: ball off without stumbling into an offensive lineman and fumbling,

963
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 1: which is something mark that he can do on a

964
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 1: consistent basis. So that's a great answer. All right, Another

965
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 1: QB battle over in Philadelphia. Wo's gonna get the job? Bradford,

966
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 1: Chase Daniel or Carson Wentz. I actually believe Peterson on

967
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 1: this one. Coach Doug Peterson. I think it's Sam Bradford.

968
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 1: He has been he has been adamant about it, not

969
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 1: just not just you know, we'll see what happens in

970
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 1: training camp. He's been Sam Bradford is the number one.

971
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 1: He will be our starting quarterback. He has said it

972
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 1: multiple times on multiple occasions. He's been given opportunities to

973
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: back off that sta man, He's never done it. I

974
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 1: believe him. I think sad Sam Bradford will open the season,

975
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 1: even before the draft, even before they trade it up

976
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 1: to get Wins. He said that he believed rookie quarterbacks

977
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 1: meet a year. If you can give a rookie quarterback

978
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 1: a year, you should give him a year. It's pretty

979
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 1: clear Sam Bradford is gone after this season. The way

980
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: his contract works, they they have a trapdoor. He's probably out,

981
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 1: But that's the one year. That's the year that Winz needs.

982
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 1: And if Wentz spends the entire season on the sidelines,

983
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: I will not be surprised by that at all. So

984
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 1: I think it's Bradford. If it's not Bradford, if something

985
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 1: happens Bradford, he gets hurt again, or it's just terrible

986
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 1: through the first month or so, I think it'll be Daniel.

987
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,879
Speaker 1: I just don't know that Wins is going to play

988
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 1: more than three or four games this year. I've always

989
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 1: been really intrigued by Chase Daniel. I keep hearing he's

990
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 1: one of the best backup quarterbacks in the league. He

991
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: always puts on a show at practice. But on ESPN

992
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 1: they list him at six foot tall, and I've talked

993
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 1: to some guys who go to Mazoo and he's like

994
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 1: five seven five eights. So as much as I'd love

995
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:00,839
Speaker 1: to see him get a t I don't think it's

996
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,399
Speaker 1: going to happen in a game situation, and I think

997
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: that it is going to be Bradford. I'm believing what

998
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 1: they say about Wentz getting a year a year off,

999
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 1: you know. And I even think to the point that

1000
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 1: if Bradford gets hurt or stumbles out of the gate,

1001
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 1: they might give Chase Daniel to try even before Wentz. Yeah,

1002
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 1: I agree with that completely. I mean, if you look

1003
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 1: at the if you look at everything that Peterson has said,

1004
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 1: that's what it sounds like. And at this point I

1005
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: have to I have to take him at his word.

1006
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: Specific well, I normally don't do that with coaches, but specifically,

1007
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 1: since he has said it so many times and had

1008
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: the opportunity to back out so many times and he

1009
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: hasn't done it, that suggests to me that he means it,

1010
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 1: at least right now. But we you know, we know

1011
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 1: what can happen. This next one I'm especially interested in

1012
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 1: because I don't think amer Abdula is going to wind

1013
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: up get leading the team and carries Ray. Who do

1014
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 1: you think is going to get the bulk of the

1015
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 1: wark in Detroit. I do think it'll be Abdullah, but

1016
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 1: I think Bulk is not. Really that doesn't really say much.

1017
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 1: I mean Abdullah he showed well over the second half

1018
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: of the season. He averaged four point seven yards of carry.

1019
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: I believe he only fumbled once over the last eight games,

1020
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 1: but he only had eighty carries over that span. I

1021
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: think it's pretty clear that theo Riddic is going to

1022
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 1: stay involved in the passing game. I think it's pretty

1023
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:09,800
Speaker 1: clear that they're going to use a big backs, whether

1024
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 1: that be Stephen Ridley or Zac Center. So I see

1025
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 1: very very little chance that a mirab Dula gets to

1026
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 1: two hundred and twenty carries, for instance, And if he

1027
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 1: was under two hundred carries, I wouldn't be surprised in

1028
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,879
Speaker 1: any way. But I do think that when it all

1029
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 1: shakes out, he will be the leader and carries, but

1030
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: only because carries are going to be split between you know, three,

1031
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: maybe four guys in Detroit, and I don't know, I

1032
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: guess we're looking at training camp. I try to think

1033
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 1: and say, well, what could change my opinion on Abdula?

1034
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 1: What could make me think that he's all of a sudden,

1035
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 1: you know, two twenty five carry, two hundred and fifty

1036
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: touch player, and I just don't know what could happen

1037
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 1: in training camp that could make could make me think that,

1038
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 1: because you know, he's not going to be used that

1039
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: way in the preseason. Likely he's still coming off of

1040
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 1: the shoulder surgery. So I don't see anything that's going

1041
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 1: to change my mind on abdulan training camp short of

1042
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: a rash of injury, short of everybody cheing everybody else

1043
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:05,320
Speaker 1: tearing the RACL, I just have a hard time seeing

1044
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 1: Abdullah convincing me that he's suddenly going to be the guy.

1045
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 1: The reason this one's so interesting to me is because

1046
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: I read a great piece on Fantasy Pros by RC

1047
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 1: Fisher about Zack Zenner, how athletic he is, how dominant

1048
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 1: he was in college, and how the scouting reports have

1049
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 1: just been glowing. Now. I think Abdullah is definitely a

1050
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 1: great change of pace back, but I don't think he's

1051
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:29,959
Speaker 1: a three down guy. And I think that Zack Zenner

1052
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 1: is going to end up winning himself a bunch of carries,

1053
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: and he's so athletic that I think he could be

1054
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 1: good enough that he ends up being a workhorse for

1055
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 1: the Lions, and that's a good offense to be a

1056
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: workhorse for. They have a pretty good offensive line. Stafford

1057
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: is a good threat to throw the ball. We've seen

1058
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: what he's done through his career. I mean, I know

1059
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 1: we had Calvin Johnson and he wasn't as great the

1060
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 1: past couple of years. But I think this is an

1061
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 1: offense that could really benefit by a guy like Zack

1062
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 1: Zener if he ends up getting the carries. Yeah. I

1063
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:58,359
Speaker 1: mean before he was hurt and he had a pretty

1064
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 1: bad injury last year, but it's not you know, he

1065
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 1: punctured lung. I believe in some broken ribs, but it's

1066
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: not like he it's not like that something's going to linger.

1067
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 1: Before he was injured, he was starting to get more

1068
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 1: of the work. He certainly looked better than Joike Bell,

1069
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 1: which I mean is not saying much of anything at

1070
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: this point, but he certainly looked better than joy Bell.

1071
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 1: It's not like Stephen Ridley was good last year. He's

1072
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,399
Speaker 1: another year removed from the ACL, but he didn't look

1073
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 1: particularly good last year. He missed the entire offseason program

1074
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 1: with an undisclosed injury. So I don't I don't see

1075
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 1: any reason why Zach center can't win the big back roll,

1076
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 1: and he certainly was a you know, hashtag draft Twitter

1077
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 1: darling whenever he came out last year. He was a

1078
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 1: preseason DFS love of mine last year. So there are

1079
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: reasons like Zach center, But I think that they have

1080
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: a pretty clear division of labor in Detroit, or at

1081
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: least they have had a pretty clear division of labor

1082
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 1: with Abdullah as kind of the lead guy, Enters or

1083
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 1: a big back as a short yardage guy, and Riddick

1084
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,760
Speaker 1: is the passing down guy. And I think that that sticks,

1085
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 1: and that limits the rushing up side of all three

1086
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 1: of them. Now, how about over a Miami where they

1087
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 1: just added Aaron Foster, What are the Dolphins going to

1088
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: do that? I think it's fairly clear there will be

1089
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: some kind of timeshare with Foster probably on the better

1090
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: side because of his ability in the passing game. You know,

1091
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 1: coach Adam Gays has been incredibly on message since the signing,

1092
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:23,240
Speaker 1: talking up Foster's ability in the passing game at seemingly

1093
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:25,479
Speaker 1: every turn. Every time he's asked about Foster, he talks

1094
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 1: about his ability as a receiver. But when I look

1095
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:31,439
Speaker 1: at this situation, the only thing that I can think about.

1096
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 1: The only thing that I really am even considering at

1097
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 1: this point is health. Both of these guys are guys

1098
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 1: that you would expect to get injured at some point

1099
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 1: this season. Foster turns thirty in August. He has humorously

1100
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 1: long injury histories coming off and achilles tear, a jay,

1101
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 1: He tore his ACL in college. He missed most of

1102
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: last training camp, his first in the NFL, with a

1103
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 1: hamstring injury. He spent time on injured reserve with an

1104
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 1: injury to his ribs, And he has a knee condition

1105
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 1: which made him fall in draft, which is probably going

1106
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:05,479
Speaker 1: to require microfracture surgery at some point. So those two lists,

1107
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:06,919
Speaker 1: you put him next to each other, and you think,

1108
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: these two guys are not going to make it through

1109
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 1: the season healthy with both of them, And there's a

1110
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 1: chance that one of them gets hurt before the end

1111
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,839
Speaker 1: of training camp, And so that makes this situation kind

1112
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 1: of hard, too hard to handicap, because there's a situation

1113
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 1: there's a real chance that somebody's hurt by the end

1114
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: of camp, which completely changes it. As for now, I

1115
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 1: like as JAHI better slightly better. I have him ranked

1116
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 1: higher because I do think that he has a better

1117
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 1: chance to make it through the season than Foster, who

1118
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:39,280
Speaker 1: unfortunately we've kind of seen who he's become. And Foster,

1119
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 1: I think it's important to note, wasn't really good as

1120
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 1: a runner last year. He was pretty good in the

1121
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,359
Speaker 1: passing game, it as a runner, he wasn't great, So

1122
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 1: maybe he's lost some of that, you know, that explosion,

1123
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 1: especially on the outside runs that he used to have.

1124
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 1: So I do think that there's a situation here where

1125
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 1: a jahe is the better fantasy option. But I will

1126
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 1: really be watching the injury report. That will be the

1127
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,359
Speaker 1: thing I pay attention to in camp in Miami because

1128
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 1: that will inform how I value these guys. Now moving

1129
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,240
Speaker 1: over to wide receivers, we both already mentioned our affinity

1130
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:08,839
Speaker 1: for Shard Matthews, and I'm super high in Doyle bring

1131
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 1: Beckham just because of that outside He was the number

1132
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 1: one overall high school recruit a few years back, and

1133
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 1: there's a reason why. But they've also got Kendall Wright,

1134
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,760
Speaker 1: justin Hunter Harry Douglas, and they have to split targets

1135
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,240
Speaker 1: with Delaney Walker. So what's going to happen in Tennessee?

1136
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 1: Ray I think Richard Matthews leads the team are the

1137
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:26,840
Speaker 1: wide receivers and targets. I think Delaney Walker leads the

1138
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: team and targets. I do think there's an opportunity here

1139
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: for Kendall Wright, especially with Dorial Green Beckham, you know,

1140
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,839
Speaker 1: not showing what the Titans want to see, or at

1141
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 1: least not showing to this point where the Titans want

1142
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 1: to see. I don't buy in the Taj Sharpe as

1143
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 1: being a big factor. I think that I think that

1144
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 1: he's a pawn in a game they're playing against dorieal

1145
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 1: Green Beckham and the other guys, the other guys you

1146
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 1: mentioned justin Hunter, Harry Douglas. I mean, they're they might

1147
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 1: not be on the roster. So I think that I think,

1148
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 1: if I'm looking in handicapping the situation, I think Matthews

1149
00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 1: leads a wide receivers and targets. I think Kendall Wright

1150
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 1: an opportunity to surprise, especially in you know, in deeper

1151
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 1: PPR formats, maybe maybe in you know, MFL best ball formats.

1152
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:10,399
Speaker 1: I think he has the opportunity to be a good

1153
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 1: late round pick. Dariel Beckham, I mean that is a

1154
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 1: that is a tough situation. Like I said, I said earlier,

1155
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 1: I have him ranked right along Josh Gordon. You're right.

1156
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 1: The upside is there. He can be in their offense.

1157
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 1: They you know, their hashtag exotic smash mouth offense that

1158
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 1: should be run heavy, play action heavy. He can be there,

1159
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins, he can be the downfield threat that catches

1160
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 1: those play action passes. He can be that guy. He's

1161
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:38,359
Speaker 1: not as fast as Watkins, but he's bigger. He's good

1162
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:40,879
Speaker 1: and contested situations. Like you said, he was the number

1163
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 1: one recruit out of high school, but he's never actually

1164
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:45,720
Speaker 1: put the season together. He didn't put it together at Missoo,

1165
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 1: he didn't play at Oklahoma. He showed flashes last year,

1166
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: but he couldn't put it together. And until he does,

1167
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 1: it's tough to really trust him to come in and

1168
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 1: be that guy. Now, finally, the New Orleans wide receiver battle,

1169
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,879
Speaker 1: they've They've just drafted Michael Thomas. They already have Brandon Cook,

1170
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 1: Willie Sneed, and Brandon Coleman. Is Thomas actually gonna end

1171
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 1: up getting the second most targets on this team? No,

1172
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think Kobe Fleaner will. I

1173
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:11,799
Speaker 1: think that Thomas and Willie Sneed will compete for the

1174
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:15,320
Speaker 1: number three in targets. Where I do think Thomas could

1175
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 1: be pretty good and where I think he could have

1176
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,319
Speaker 1: a pretty big role along with Fleener is in the

1177
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:23,839
Speaker 1: red zone, because neither Sneed nor Cooks have been good

1178
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 1: in the red zone throughout their career, have gotten a lot,

1179
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 1: have even gotten a lot of red zone targets. I

1180
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:33,439
Speaker 1: believe that Brandon Cooks has four targets inside the ten

1181
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 1: in two years and through his entire career as four

1182
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 1: targets inside the ten, so he has not been involved.

1183
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 1: Willie Sneed wasn't really involved last year. Ben Watson was

1184
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 1: much more involved in the red zone. He's gone. They

1185
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 1: need somebody in there. I think Thomas and Fleiner, those

1186
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:48,919
Speaker 1: two guys can be those guys. So if I'm looking

1187
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 1: at this situation, it looks like Brandon Cooks is clearly

1188
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 1: the number one. I think that Fleener's the second most targets,

1189
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 1: Snead and Thomas competing for the third. But what you

1190
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:00,360
Speaker 1: like about Thomas where the potential is I think is

1191
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 1: in touchdowns and if we see him being involved there,

1192
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 1: you know, in training camp early in the season, I'm

1193
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 1: going to start to get pretty excited about it. You know,

1194
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 1: I'm really intrigued by Brandon Coleman. I know he had

1195
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:13,360
Speaker 1: plenty of hype last year going into fantasy drafts and

1196
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 1: let a lot of people down. But you know there's

1197
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 1: that post hype sleeper status with him right now. He

1198
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,319
Speaker 1: only started. He only played thirty seven percent of the

1199
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:24,320
Speaker 1: offensive snaps last year, but in the final two games

1200
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 1: that number eclipsed fifty percent. I feel like the Saints

1201
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:30,720
Speaker 1: and especially Drew Brees, are really starting to like Brandon Coleman.

1202
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 1: Do you think there's a chance that he plays himself

1203
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 1: in a significant playing time. No, I've never liked Brandon Coleman.

1204
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:41,760
Speaker 1: Coming out, I didn't like him. I thought he runs

1205
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 1: like a baby gazelle. He looks like he looks like

1206
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 1: he's gotten smoother, But I there's too much talent on

1207
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 1: this offense. Michael Thomas I was my was my third

1208
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:54,840
Speaker 1: favorite wide receiver in this class. I think he was

1209
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 1: incredibly undervalued. I think the Saint's got to steal He

1210
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 1: is a great fit in that big slot role. I

1211
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 1: think he's going to excel there, and he can move

1212
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:06,799
Speaker 1: all around the formation, which gives them that flexibility with

1213
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:10,720
Speaker 1: both sneed fleaner and who's a glorified wide receiver anyway,

1214
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:13,919
Speaker 1: and Cook, So I I just don't see a chance

1215
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 1: that he beats out Michael Thomas because I think Michael

1216
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 1: Thomas is a really good player, and I think that

1217
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 1: Coleman's a bottom of the roster kind of guy. And

1218
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 1: we've seen I mean, how many It's funny I think

1219
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 1: about New Orleans wide receivers and how many we've seen

1220
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 1: come through the years that, oh, this is the guy.

1221
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 1: Last year we had both Coleman and Schantavius Jones if

1222
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 1: you remember Shantavius Jones, who was a training camp darling.

1223
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 1: And it never seems to work out. And so I,

1224
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not putting much stock into it. That

1225
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 1: might be to my own peril, but I'm trusting that

1226
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,959
Speaker 1: the top four stays the top four, all right, Raymond. Finally,

1227
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 1: we're going to finish with two trivial questions for you.

1228
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 1: The first one which team led the NFL in both

1229
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 1: rushing yards and rushing yards per Carrie with over twenty

1230
00:57:56,560 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 1: four hundred rushing yards last season, the Buffalo Bills. That

1231
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 1: was too easy for you. Hopefully this one's a lot

1232
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 1: harder for you. I feel like you know everything though,

1233
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 1: having done this podcast with you, I feel like there

1234
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 1: is no trivia question I could give you that you

1235
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 1: want it now. That is certainly not true. If if

1236
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 1: you wanted to get into like Gilmore Girls trivia, I'd

1237
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 1: probably rock that. But if you wanted to get into

1238
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 1: you know, it's gossip Girl trivia, maybe maybe not, but yeah,

1239
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm really worried now that you've said that,

1240
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 1: you've put me, You've set me up to fail on

1241
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 1: this next question. For sure. I'm building a really hard

1242
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 1: question right now that I didn't even have in place.

1243
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 1: So okay, let's see here that's not true. I'm going

1244
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 1: with the same question I had written down man all right,

1245
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 1: Danny Woodhead, Theo Riddick, and DeVante Freeman all had over

1246
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 1: ninety targets last season from the running back position. No

1247
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 1: other running back head over seventy five who finished number

1248
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 1: four in targets Duke Johnson very close David Johnson. Duke

1249
00:58:56,760 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 1: Johnson five David Johnson. I mean he wasn't even playing

1250
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 1: that much until later in the season, and Carson Palmer

1251
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 1: threw him the ball so much comp any more. Where

1252
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:10,439
Speaker 1: Duke john was Duke Johnson behind David Johnson. You said

1253
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 1: he was fifth, Yeah, I think he was one target

1254
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 1: behind if I recall. Oh, yeah, that was pretty awesome.

1255
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 1: I can't believe you had Duke Johnson, uh right there

1256
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 1: just by chance. Do you know who number seven and

1257
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 1: eight were? Oh so we already have Riddick Woodhead, Johnson's

1258
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:33,919
Speaker 1: and Freeman. Um oh, that's tough thinking of the other

1259
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 1: passing backs. Maybe Charles Simms, Darl Simms is ride up there,

1260
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 1: But no he's not. He's not top whatever it was,

1261
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 1: top seven. Shane Vereen had a lot more targets than

1262
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 1: people thought he did. He did, he's not there either. No,

1263
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 1: I don't have them. Who were there? James White in Geohana.

1264
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 1: It's interesting, that's interesting. Yeah, Geo I should have gotten.

1265
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 1: But James White, that's really interesting. James White's the one

1266
00:59:57,080 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 1: that really snuck up on me. I was shocked by that. Yeah,

1267
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 1: that's amazing, And it's kind of speaks to maybe Dion

1268
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 1: Lewis's upside this year. I mean who I mean he was.

1269
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 1: He already has more upside than anybody going. He's going

1270
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 1: around the twenty mark a little after twenty. He already

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01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 1: has more weekly upside than any of those guys. But

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Speaker 1: that kind of speaks to how much upside in the

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Speaker 1: passing game Lewis has if and that's a big if

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Speaker 1: he can stay healthy. You're right about their DFS upside.

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Speaker 1: But I am so scared of drafting any Patriots running

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Speaker 1: back because Belichick's just he's a psycho man. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he had Jonas greygo for like three thousand yards and

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Speaker 1: five touchdowns in one game and then he didn't play

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Speaker 1: the rest of the season. I don't trust Belichick with

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Speaker 1: Dean Lewis. I don't trust him with la Garrett Blunt.

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Speaker 1: I don't trust him with James Why. I don't trust

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Speaker 1: him with anyone. I'm not drafting Dean Lewis. I will

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Speaker 1: absolutely because I because I mean, if you look at

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Speaker 1: last year and I wish I had this number in

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Speaker 1: front of me, but I did. I did a running

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Speaker 1: back consistency rankings. I did it for every major fantasy position.

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Speaker 1: You go find it on the world. And even with

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Speaker 1: that uncertainty, he was still an elite running back. So

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Speaker 1: a top I leave top five is how is how

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01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 1: I you know that cut off for that elite tag?

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Speaker 1: He was elite running back on fifteen percent of his games,

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Speaker 1: which is right up there with any running back in

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Speaker 1: the league. He had a running back one percentage on

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Speaker 1: around forty five percent of his games, which doesn't sound great,

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Speaker 1: but when you're talking about running back production again, that's

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Speaker 1: right there at the top of the league. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: I think that I think that you're right about about

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Speaker 1: New England running backs and you know, having some concern

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Speaker 1: about it, for sure, but Lewis was not that way

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01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 1: when he was when he was healthy last year, he

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Speaker 1: was he was a guy that got used consistently, especially

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Speaker 1: in the red zone. He was a touchdown guy. So

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Speaker 1: I I understand that concern. I think that that concern

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Speaker 1: is valid for most everybody, but I think that Lewis

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01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 1: is a guy that kind of that kind of you know,

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01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:51,120
Speaker 1: breaks out of that mold a little bit. Well, Raymond,

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Speaker 1: that's all the questions we have for you this week.

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Speaker 1: We actually had to cut some questions out because there

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Speaker 1: was just so much good detail that you went into.

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Speaker 1: And I really appreciate you coming on the show and

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Speaker 1: just being a great guest. Looking forward to having you

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Speaker 1: on next time and have a great weekend. I really

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Speaker 1: appreciate it, and anytime. Thanks Randing, take care that's all.

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