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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome to the show that gets you

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Speaker 1: inside n RG Stadium and gets you prepared for football season,

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Speaker 1: even though it's ninety eight days away till the regular season.

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Speaker 1: Mark Vanderman and John Harris with you for Texans All

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Speaker 1: Access tonight, as we get you through the week. We

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Speaker 1: do it every week. Hey, tomorrow, we'll have plenty to

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Speaker 1: talk about with OTAs firing up again this week mini camp.

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Speaker 1: Next week we'll hear from an assistant coach Tomorrow night

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Speaker 1: to be named later. Johnny, here we go. It's Monday.

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Speaker 1: It's ninety eight days until regular season kickoff. Well, I

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Speaker 1: was wondering how you got the nights like ninety eight.

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Speaker 1: How'd you do that so fast? But then I remembered

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Speaker 1: you could kind of go buy our countdown top one

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Speaker 1: hundred moments. We counted out two of them. We did

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Speaker 1: one hundred and ninety nine. One hundred was from the

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Speaker 1: two thousand and nine game against Seattle. I say that

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Speaker 1: because we got a lot of responses, Oh, yes about

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Speaker 1: the twenty thirteen game, Yes we did, and Jos the

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Speaker 1: two thousand and nine games. It was the two thousand

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Speaker 1: and nine game. It opened with a bomb to Andre

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Speaker 1: Johnson and it was the first of a four game

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Speaker 1: winning streak to close out that season. And yes, they

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Speaker 1: did beat Seattle that day at at RG Stadium. Even

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Speaker 1: though a lot of the fans saw that play and said, well,

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Speaker 1: didn't they lose that game? I picked sex to Richard

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Speaker 1: Sherman and then the overtime. No, that was not a loss.

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Speaker 1: That was a victory. That was a victory. The one

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Speaker 1: at ninety nine, Yeah, I don't. I wanted to tell him.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to tell a story. I didn't put it

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Speaker 1: in the tweet. His stat line number ninety nine stat

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Speaker 1: line for that day. Yeah, one receiving touchdown, five tackles,

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Speaker 1: three tackles for a loss, one sack, one forced fumble,

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Speaker 1: one fumble recovery in two roughing the punter flags. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: In twenty fourteen against Cleveland, you know what that was?

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Speaker 1: All right? So that was the Cleveland game with Ryan

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Speaker 1: Mallett starting his first touchdown. Ever, what no, what scored

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Speaker 1: against the Oaklands? That's right? Yeah, Ryan Mallett's first touching,

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Speaker 1: passing touchdown. Isn't that incredible? And it was to J. J. Watt?

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Speaker 1: How about that? What a trivia question? That is right there?

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Speaker 1: I know when when I saw waking game, I knew

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Speaker 1: he was getting to football. When I saw him go

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Speaker 1: out wide, I was like, yo, he's getting the ball.

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Speaker 1: I just thought they would run a slant. I thought

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Speaker 1: I thought that would be the case. He scores. It's

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Speaker 1: the first touchdown of the day and you're like, whoa,

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Speaker 1: we're off. If you remember going to that game, we

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Speaker 1: were we were an underdog because, oh yeah, because Cleveland

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Speaker 1: was playing very well at that point. They were hot,

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Speaker 1: they were six three, really well. They'd just come off

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Speaker 1: a victory, last second winnagainst Atlanta in Atlanta, and they

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Speaker 1: beat the Bengals soundly a couple of weeks before. Yeah, primetime,

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Speaker 1: they blew him out. Yeah, and so people thought we

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Speaker 1: were going there to lose. And the watch catches that pass.

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Speaker 1: And my favorite thing about that day was Jay Jay

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Speaker 1: that's the basketball equivalent of I'm gonna lob these up

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Speaker 1: like he pointed out, and he had a matchup that

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Speaker 1: he loved and he kept abusing their offensive line and

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Speaker 1: and I was I was standing near where this took place.

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Speaker 1: But JJ gets the first one, they get the ball back,

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Speaker 1: and the first one didn't mount to anything. The first

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Speaker 1: And I think it was it was the it was

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Speaker 1: he's been unbelievable in twenty fourteen. And he's standing there

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Speaker 1: And I just I loved it because I've been in

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Speaker 1: you you think about and he does something that's not right,

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Speaker 1: and you're going, Okay, I know I should be mad

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Speaker 1: So what do I say? And then you kind of

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Speaker 1: and that's what he did, and then the rest of

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Speaker 1: So that was um that it was ninety nine days

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Speaker 1: or yeah, ninety nine, we're doing the top one hundred

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Speaker 1: which is the YMCA opening Houston Texans YMCA, which was

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Speaker 1: I think you said at the meeting today, it's the

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Speaker 1: first NFL sponsored any protein any protein. Yeah, first YMCA

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Speaker 1: steamed after a professional team, the Texans backed at heavily.

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Speaker 1: It was very important to the McNair family and it

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Speaker 1: was actually a YMCA that has a big role in

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Speaker 1: Houston civil rights historically. This particular WHY before it was

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Speaker 1: an organization. And that's it's a beautiful place. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Houston Texans organization. Again, these are organizational moments, the top

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Speaker 1: one hundred moments. We keep counting them down because you

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Speaker 1: had a great graphic. It was really cool. So what

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Speaker 1: they need to figure out what your all time defense is. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, we don't have much film on guys from

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Speaker 1: wide outs of it out there doing their thing in

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Speaker 1: OTAs and QT among them. We all saw a QT

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Speaker 1: him how the off season was going, how he was progressing.

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Speaker 1: It has been good, you know, just been focusing on

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Speaker 1: what have you been doing in that regard? Just allowed

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Speaker 1: but I also imagine that part of that has fueled this.

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Speaker 1: I can do some really big things. Let's talk about

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Speaker 1: where you're from. What is in the water in love Contexas?

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Speaker 1: Why do they pump out so many great football players

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Speaker 1: Love Contextas? Oh, it's just different. You know, it's East

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Speaker 1: you know, we produce a lot of great players, hard,

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Speaker 1: everywhere I go in life, no matter what, I never

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Speaker 1: breading me to I am today. What motivates you? It's

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Speaker 1: not just to get back and catch those balls from Deshaun,

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Speaker 1: Hearot anyway, so you know as the time goes by,

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Speaker 1: you know, Bill, great connection, go lead us the leaders

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Speaker 1: when I was listening to some of those Keith Jackson highlights,

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Speaker 1: play by play has certainly evolved and in many ways

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Speaker 1: has gotten better, although I think some of the voices

427
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Speaker 1: have deteriorated. Keith got better too. That he was only

428
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Speaker 1: there for one year. He did it that first year

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Speaker 1: and then he went to He went over to college

430
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Speaker 1: football just before he was known as the voice of

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Speaker 1: college football, became this grand voice for the game of

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Speaker 1: college football, and then Gifford stepped in, and then that

433
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Speaker 1: became Gifford, Cosell and Meredith, and then it became a

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Speaker 1: traveling side show. Monday and Football was so new and

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Speaker 1: that group, and I think Monday Night Football has always

436
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Speaker 1: tried to find another group that could the announcing group

437
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Speaker 1: became part of the show. Yeah, they have it, and

438
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Speaker 1: they just have not been able to ever find that again.

439
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Speaker 1: This is time because the Peter King story came out. Well,

440
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Speaker 1: Fred Gotdeli, who's you know, produced Monday and Football since

441
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Speaker 1: the beginning beginning of time almost u He talked about

442
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Speaker 1: Dennis Miller and trying to save Dennis Miller, which was

443
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Speaker 1: a disaster, really Tony Kornheiser disaster. You know, you just

444
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Speaker 1: can't automatically think that that chemistry is going to happen,

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Speaker 1: especially when it's a guy who just does not know

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Speaker 1: the game. Dennis Miller, I'll never forget his first night

447
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Speaker 1: in the booth was the Hall of Fame game in

448
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Speaker 1: Campton and he's talking about the fact that he's never

449
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Speaker 1: been in a press box before. That's a problem to

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Speaker 1: me that you have a guy to a Monday Night

451
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Speaker 1: Football who's never been in a press box Texans Monday

452
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Speaker 1: and Night games. Look, last year, the victory over the

453
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Speaker 1: Titans was just such a memory. Was an emotional night

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Speaker 1: after the passing of mister McNair, and maybe that goes

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Speaker 1: down in history as the best one. It's still to me,

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Speaker 1: just from a pure football stance, I think that the

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Speaker 1: one against the Bengals in twenty fifteen, that one will

458
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Speaker 1: always ring as the all time biggest Monday Night win

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Speaker 1: for the Texans, especially considering everything on the line and

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Speaker 1: they were playing in eight no Bengals team. You know,

461
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Speaker 1: we talk about that one a lot. I think it's

462
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Speaker 1: just a special memory. Yeah, that's franchise, definitely an the

463
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Speaker 1: fact that happened on one to Night Football and we're

464
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Speaker 1: Drew and I were talking about that on the end

465
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Speaker 1: the Lab podcast day. One of the things I didn't

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Speaker 1: talk about was I was in the press box doing

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Speaker 1: a chat beforehand, and I heard Boomer Seison was doing

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Speaker 1: the game for Westwood One. Yeah, and since Cincinnati, and

469
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Speaker 1: I could see him from the image. I'm looking out

470
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Speaker 1: to the field, but the glass I could see him behind.

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Speaker 1: He's talking to a couple of guys and one of

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Speaker 1: the guys says to him, Yeah, you know, the Bengals

473
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Speaker 1: should just roll through this thing. I mean they should

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Speaker 1: be nine Boomers like, can't. I think they're gonna crush

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Speaker 1: this team to night And I'm like, okay, here we go.

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Speaker 1: All right, we'll see. And so even Boomer, a former player,

477
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Speaker 1: no matter, doesn't get it. Sometimes. I think the more

478
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Speaker 1: time you spend away from the game and out outside

479
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Speaker 1: of buildings where the game is played and around the

480
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Speaker 1: people as much as you you used to be, you

481
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Speaker 1: lose that sense of anything's possible. Anything. And it was

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Speaker 1: that night, and so many things happened in that game

483
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Speaker 1: that I did think it happened on a Monday night.

484
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Speaker 1: I mean, that was that was incredible last year's Monday

485
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Speaker 1: night game. When they get to stop on Luke Stocker

486
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Speaker 1: on fourth and one and the very next play and

487
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Speaker 1: I just remember down on the sidelines thinking when it

488
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Speaker 1: was fourth and one, I remember thinking, man, where's Justin

489
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Speaker 1: Reid with that pick six right now? And we got

490
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Speaker 1: the next best thing, which was two plays to go

491
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Speaker 1: the other direction, and that the NFL over the weekend,

492
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Speaker 1: the NFL post the video of Lamar's two ninety seven

493
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Speaker 1: yard runs. One I think it was against the Jets

494
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Speaker 1: when he was with Miami, and then they showed the

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Speaker 1: one with us last year against the Titans, and just

496
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Speaker 1: reliving that moment seeing him go down the field and

497
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Speaker 1: oh my gosh, they're gonna go to ninety seven yards

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Speaker 1: and score, and just looking around the stands and then

499
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Speaker 1: matching your call with it. You know that once for you,

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Speaker 1: Bob was like it was just it was perfect. It

501
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Speaker 1: was I remember being in the locker room afterwards. There

502
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Speaker 1: was so much joy after what had been a really,

503
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Speaker 1: really hard weekend because of mister mcnaar's passing. It was

504
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Speaker 1: just incredible, and the fact that it got to be

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Speaker 1: on Monday night against that team in our building was

506
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Speaker 1: really cool. I forgot, or I haven't forgotten, but I

507
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Speaker 1: needed to be reminded of the stop on fourth down

508
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Speaker 1: because that made that moment in the moment that much

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Speaker 1: more special. You know, now we look back on it,

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Speaker 1: you only see that run, but you forget that Titans

511
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Speaker 1: are about to take it in, they're about to score,

512
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Speaker 1: and you stop them boom right there and you get

513
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Speaker 1: the ball at the three and you're scoring a play

514
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Speaker 1: later phenomena. One of the best things about that play

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Speaker 1: Luke Stocker is a two hundred and fifty pound tight end.

516
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Speaker 1: When Zach hits him, Stocker, it's like hitting a wall.

517
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Speaker 1: He literally hit a wall. Like his momentum, he's kind

518
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Speaker 1: of down like this, and then he hits a wall.

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Speaker 1: And it's not as if Stocker goes anywhere. He just

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Speaker 1: doesn't go any further, right, I mean, it literally is

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Speaker 1: like he hit a wall and just and then here

522
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Speaker 1: comes Bmack and they finished him off. And I was

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Speaker 1: just amazing to see Stocker have this momentum just stop

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Speaker 1: it and Zach to stone him. It was the one

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Speaker 1: thing that people didn't think Zach could do come in

526
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Speaker 1: the NFL, that he would have enough size to be

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Speaker 1: able to do that. Boy, he stoned him. Right, there

528
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Speaker 1: was such a great play. Let's order some more of

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Speaker 1: that plays next up, gut reaction to a bunch of

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Speaker 1: rule change possibilities and other stuff. Right, yes, and how

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Speaker 1: about this. The twenty twenty College Football Hall of Fame

532
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Speaker 1: has come out and a few of these guys you

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Speaker 1: know from your days of Miami, I want to get

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Speaker 1: your thoughts on all right, let's do that next on

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Speaker 1: Texans Radio. We're right across the Hall from the locker

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Speaker 1: room at NRG Stadium in the Hunday Texans Radio Studio

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Speaker 1: Texans All Access, Mark Vandermayer and John Harris with you

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Speaker 1: time for gut reaction Monday. All right, So, Johnny, what

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Speaker 1: do you got for me? Okay, So I've been thinking

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Speaker 1: about these I want to get your gut reaction. I

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Speaker 1: am taking over as football rules czar the NFL. Okay,

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Speaker 1: here's my first suggestion. What do you got? Any fumble

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Speaker 1: recovered by the offense goes back to the original spot

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Speaker 1: of the fumble. We call the spot of the fumble,

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Speaker 1: I call I call it the Russell Wilson Jadevion clown. Ye.

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Speaker 1: So if so, I'm I'm Lamar Miller. I fumble, I'm running,

547
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Speaker 1: you're running, You're twenty five twenty. I fumble at the twenty.

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Speaker 1: It's recovered by the offense at the thirteen, but it's

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Speaker 1: got to go back to this. It goes back to

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Speaker 1: the twenty. I'm fine with that. And that includes that

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Speaker 1: includes any fumble that goes through the end zone. Yep, oh,

552
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 1: through the ends. If it goes through the end zone,

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Speaker 1: which is a touch back, it doesn't matter where was

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Speaker 1: it fumbled. It was fumbled at the wall. I'll hang

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Speaker 1: on a second. If I if I fumble a ball

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Speaker 1: through the end zone, does it go back to me

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Speaker 1: or to the defense, because nobody recovers and it goes

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Speaker 1: back to the offense. Nobody. All right, So you don't

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Speaker 1: like that that no one recovered it, So you should

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Speaker 1: not have to give up the ball? Correct? I kind

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Speaker 1: of like that, And it goes back to the spot.

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Speaker 1: And here's here's because it doesn't matter right, right, You

563
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Speaker 1: got to keep the ball right, So why does that change.

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Speaker 1: It's because you're at the at the goal one. Here's

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Speaker 1: my inspiration. Remember the game against Seattle at twenty seventeen. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's third down and Jenemon Clowney forced to fumble. At

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Speaker 1: the time, we thought it was a complete passed. He

568
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Speaker 1: forced the fumble and the ball goes forward fifteen yards. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and Luke Wilson happened to be there and he just

570
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 1: fell on it and they got the yardage. And they

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Speaker 1: got the yardage which allowed them after a replay because

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Speaker 1: Pete Carroll replayed it. They got the yardage, which I

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Speaker 1: don't think it was enough for a first down, but

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Speaker 1: they were oh no, no no, yeah, they got him. It

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Speaker 1: got him a first down. They went on to score

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Speaker 1: a touchdown. They were gonna Yeah, I do remember this now,

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Speaker 1: every fumble it would have been in the Texans to

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00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 1: the Texans benefit to have it being a complete pass obviously,

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Speaker 1: because the Seahawks recovered the thrumble sort of thing. Right,

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Speaker 1: But if it goes back to the spot of the fumble,

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Speaker 1: as good as the sack, which it should be, yeah,

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Speaker 1: which it should be. Yeah, it should be strip sack. Right,

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00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 1: it's a strip sack, even though it went forward, right,

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Speaker 1: even though it goes especially that it goes forward. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so the offense recovered, they get to keep it. But

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Speaker 1: it's at the spot of the fumble. The offense cannot benefit.

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Speaker 1: The offense cannot benefit. But it was side note by

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Speaker 1: the way that brock thrumble in Denver in twenty sixteen

589
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 1: was not a fumble. No, I've got to my grave

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Speaker 1: saying that, and my bit of proof there was I

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Speaker 1: know it. Don't get me started. Johnny's laughing at me

592
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: because you know not you. I'm just thinking of who

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Speaker 1: ever could throw, who could ever throw a fumble? Mean,

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00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 1: when I saw it live, it was like, all right,

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Speaker 1: it's incomplete. And then did. They reviewed it? Right? They

596
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,919
Speaker 1: threw the flat and I'm thinking, oh my gosh, is

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Speaker 1: this gonna go against us as a thrumble? It's yes,

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00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 1: and it did. But my beef there was if a

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Speaker 1: receiver had caught that ball, it would have been ruled

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Speaker 1: a completed pass. So why wouldn't it be an incomplete pass?

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Speaker 1: That's all I have to say about that? All right? Okay,

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00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: next tho rules are okay, okay, targeting or hit on

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Speaker 1: a defenseless receiver. Okay, we'll move to the college rule,

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Speaker 1: which is what we have. Oh all right, well all right,

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00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: but how are we going to determine this? Are we

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Speaker 1: going to stop the game? Who stopping the game? Is

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00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: an official upstairs stop of the game, the ref on

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00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: the field stop of the game. And then we're gonna

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Speaker 1: look at it for a half hour and then have

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Speaker 1: Congress vote on it. And then I've aged, and you know,

611
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: I get three paychecks later, and all of a sudden

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00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: we have a decision. How are you going to do this?

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Speaker 1: All right? Good? I want College to take what the

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00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: NFL does, which is which is, you don't get ejected.

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00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 1: It's a fifteen yeard penalty. But if you get two.

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Speaker 1: If you get two of them, then you get tossed. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think college is way too Yeah. It's one of

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Speaker 1: those things where I know I want to see it,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Too often these college players

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Speaker 1: are getting ejected for reasons that you know they should. Well,

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Speaker 1: Devin White got ejected the week before the Alabama game

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Speaker 1: in the second half, which I mean he had to

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Speaker 1: miss the first half of the Alabama again, as it

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00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: is ridiculous. So rules are I would say, if the

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00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: NFL is the one that does it right, right, I

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Speaker 1: think I would tell college the guys shouldn't be ejected

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Speaker 1: for that. They if it's flagrant, if you assess it flagrant, fine,

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Speaker 1: but if it's the targeting not just the run of

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Speaker 1: the mill targeting foul. But if it's a targeting foul

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Speaker 1: that's not flagrant fifteen yards second one, then you're ejected

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Speaker 1: if you want to do that. But just this whole

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Speaker 1: ejection after one hit that I'm telling you. The hits

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Speaker 1: that I saw last year the players got ejected for

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Speaker 1: targeting in college football were just, I mean, almost asinine.

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Speaker 1: But I think the NFL actually has it right. Okay,

636
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 1: got reaction the twenty twenty College Football Hall of Fame

637
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 1: ballot has come out. Okay, there are no Texans on here,

638
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: No Houston Texans former or past. I was a little surprised.

639
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, no Andre Johnson, No Andre Johnson in here.

640
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: No no Ron Dan. I think Ron Dan's already in.

641
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 1: But but nobody that plays for the Texans. Well, you

642
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 1: couldn't be playing for the Texas now, but no past

643
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: Texans or anybody with a connection that way? What wins

644
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: Watson eligible once he retired from the NFL? Okay, so

645
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: college football? The college football College Football Hall of Fame rules,

646
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: you have to be first Team All America by some organization.

647
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: You have to be ten years after your final year

648
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: collegiate football's played. You didn't have to be out of

649
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 1: the NFL. You have to be done playing the game.

650
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 1: So that that does limit who you're going to have

651
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: at that point. But I wanted to get your thoughts

652
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: because one of the first names that pops up because

653
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: is a nolphabetic quarter was Jerome Brown the University of Miami. Right,

654
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: Jerome Brown is not in a college football Hall of Fame.

655
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 1: That's crazy, I mean it's nuts. Wait what about Ed Reid?

656
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: He's not I want to say that he's in, but no,

657
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: he just retired, so maybe maybe. But he's in the

658
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: you know, pro Football Hall of Fame. So now he's selected. Okay,

659
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 1: good uh Football Hall of Fame. He's thank goodness for that.

660
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: I think the thing about these Miami Hurricanes is that

661
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: the numbers are not that crazy for some of the guys.

662
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,719
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. The ball was spread around

663
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 1: yet a lot of targets, you know, a lot of

664
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: production from a lot of different people. So it's not

665
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: like the numbers might be as great as they could

666
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: have been for some of the guys. You know. To me,

667
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: Andre Johnson should be in the college Football Hall of Fame.

668
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: This is there's a no doubt about an element to this.

669
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: He won a national championship game. He won, his team

670
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: won a national championship game where he was the MVP

671
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: with one hundred and ninety nine receiving yards all right

672
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: against Nebraska, which had a good defense at the time,

673
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 1: and just abused those corners. Man, Yeah, he did and destroyed.

674
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: The following year, they go back to the national championship

675
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: game and they lose on a controversial call. Whatever they lost,

676
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 1: he belongs in. But Drey was never a first team

677
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: All American, correct, I mean that. I'm just I agree

678
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 1: with you. I think that's the problem with the College

679
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 1: Football of Fame to the University of Miami. You've got

680
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 1: this backlog of players and if you only take one

681
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: from each school. Here are the three Miami players. One

682
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: of them that you called, and I want to get

683
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 1: your thoughts on him because I think he is criminally underrated.

684
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: But Jeron Brown I mentioned also ray Lewis is up

685
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 1: for induction. Okay. Dan Morgan mine backer, Yeah, left early,

686
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 1: all right, went to the Panthers. He was really good,

687
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: you know he It's funny, Johnny having been there in

688
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety nine. They had Dan Morgan and Nate Webster

689
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: playing the linebacker them and Nate was really good. And

690
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: Nate filed the paperwork to leave, and then he didn't

691
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 1: want to go, and then he had to go because

692
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: the paperwork was in. But he changed his mind and

693
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: he facted it. I can't remember all the details, but

694
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 1: there was some controversy there. He was MVP of the

695
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: Gator Bowl that the Canes won against georg Tech. Bill

696
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,719
Speaker 1: O'Brien was on that staff. New Year's Day two thousand

697
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: Nate was amazing. Morgan was amazing. He was the first

698
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 1: guy ever interviewed when I went down there. He was

699
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 1: a great player. You know, it's hard for me to say.

700
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: It's hard for me to say the College Football Hall

701
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 1: of Fame is weird. It is. I think if you

702
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: want to Heisman, you're automatically in. All right. There were

703
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: no Heisman winners on my Hurricane teams, So I don't know.

704
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: It's like I said, the wealth is so spread around

705
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: with that bunch. I mean, Ed Reid's an obvious one

706
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 1: because he was such a leader that you had to

707
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 1: put him in. I mean, he really was the leader

708
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 1: of that team, even more so than say Ken Dorsey.

709
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 1: Who's the all time Hurricanes tackle leader. Dan Morgan five

710
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: hundred thirty two tackles, started a school record forty five games.

711
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,919
Speaker 1: Big East Defensive Player of the Year in two thousand three,

712
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,879
Speaker 1: time first Team All Big East, two thousand unanimous first

713
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: Team All American. First player ever to sweep the buckets

714
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: Ben Eric in the Girsky Awards in One Sea. Yeah,

715
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: he was pretty good. It's funny because young people listening,

716
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: I would say Big East has football. Yeah, Saba did?

717
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 1: They had it? They had football and Miami was there.

718
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,240
Speaker 1: Yes they were, Yes, they were. Who was I talking

719
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 1: to about this recently and I said, you know, the

720
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 1: one thing about being in the Big East at Miami

721
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: was the basketball team and how hated they were playing

722
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 1: in those Big East traditional power gyms. Going to Providence

723
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 1: and getting off the bus at Yukon and Syracuse. You

724
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,280
Speaker 1: were like this interloper. It just came in. Well, talking

725
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 1: for football, we want the football money, but we hate

726
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: you in basketball. And then beating those guys there was

727
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 1: It was such a great feeling to beat those traditional

728
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: powers in that sport on their turf. I freaking loved

729
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: it. It It was great, all right. So this gut reaction

730
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: to this, This was tweeted this morning by Mike Florio.

731
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 1: All Right, Roger Goodell was at Jim Kelly's golf tournament

732
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: in Buffalo, and he spoke to the media afterwards. And

733
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 1: I didn't see his exact words, but I saw this

734
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: tweet from Mike Florio Pro Football talk your gut reaction

735
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: to this, and I quote, the drums are getting louder

736
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 1: Buffalo and the message from the league is clear, pay

737
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,760
Speaker 1: for all or part of a new stadium or else

738
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 1: the Bills eventually will move. Gut reaction. That's from Florio.

739
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: That's from Florio basing what that quote off of what

740
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: Goodell said today in Buffalo for Jim Kelly's golf tournament. Well,

741
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 1: they do need a new stadium. You know that you've

742
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 1: been there. We do like going. They like places, and

743
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: the reasons why we like them are not the reasons why.

744
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: You know, a lot of people feel like they need

745
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: new stadiums. So the Bills definitely need a new stadium,

746
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be hard to fund. It's New York State.

747
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: Guess who didn't get stadiums constructed in New York State?

748
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: The New York Giants and the New York Jets, right,

749
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: And the Bills don't have New Jersey to pay the freight.

750
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 1: It's a little far away, so they have Canada. So

751
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 1: what else do they have? Pennsylvania that's not gonna work either, right,

752
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 1: So they got a bad situation there. It's a real

753
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: troubling one. And it's not exactly a huge market either.

754
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,399
Speaker 1: The only other pro sport they have at that level,

755
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: at that level, at a major league level, if you will,

756
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 1: is the Sabers, and obviously they're very well liked bunch.

757
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 1: By the way, in basketball, you know Philly is the

758
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: Big five. Yeah, you know they have in Buffalo the

759
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: Big four Canisius, Yeah, Buffalo, same Bonaventure and oh Calvin

760
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: Murphy hates you right. Yes, they got the big three

761
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: of the four. That's not bad. They got the Big

762
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: four in Buffalo, Johnny, that's that's not that's not They

763
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: need new digs, they really do. It's a great franchise.

764
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: You know, the fan base is to Bill's Mafia. Look

765
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: it's a little different. They marched to the beat of

766
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: a different drum, but you have to love the passion.

767
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: They're totally passionate fan base. And they need a new home.

768
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 1: And these places are ridiculously expensive, and it's up to

769
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 1: smarter people than me to figure out how to get

770
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: them built. Terry Burgoula was asked about that, and he said,

771
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: you know, look, they've got a you know what Stan

772
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: Cronky's doing in La it's just unbelievable. You got Jerry's

773
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: place in Arlington. Maybe we can't build something like that,

774
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 1: but we can get it done. I don't think I

775
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: don't think the Bills are gonna move anywhere, but you

776
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 1: don't have to. I thought it was interesting because I

777
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: saw that tweet without context and I was like, Okay,

778
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: what what ant Hill is Florio kicking over? At this point,

779
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: this is a do as I say, not as I

780
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: want situation, Like I would want an indoor stadium if

781
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 1: I'm in Buffalo living there, but I'm saying don't do

782
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 1: it because it's the bills. It's Buffalo. It's like putting

783
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: lambeau Field indoors. Build a nice outdoors stadium with just

784
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 1: enough suits or whatever. And by the way, some of

785
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: the sweet models and the way stadiums make revenue, some

786
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 1: of that stuff is changing, you know, going to more

787
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 1: club level stuff. Look at Miami as an example, so

788
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 1: I know that our fans many listeners right now not

789
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: been in that stadium since they redid it, but they

790
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,879
Speaker 1: have a lot of club area seating, and that way

791
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: you can sort of price things differently according to the

792
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: crowd that you know can afford different types of things

793
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 1: and stadiums. The models are changing everywhere because it was

794
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 1: getting tougher or the economics change over time as far

795
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:22,800
Speaker 1: as as what's lucrative and what's really feasible, what's usable

796
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: for the fans, staying with Goodell, he was at Jim

797
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: Kelly's charity golf tournament outside Buffalo. As I met him,

798
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 1: he also repeated his stance on a desire to reduce

799
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 1: the current four game preseason schedule. Goodell told reporters the

800
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 1: league should strive to accomplish task at a high level,

801
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: and I'm not sure preseason games meet that level right now,

802
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: your gut reaction. He said this a few years ago.

803
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: Remember about four or five years ago, he said, I

804
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: don't think the product is up to snuff or up

805
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,720
Speaker 1: to our standards. I'm paraphrasing, but it was its exact direct.

806
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,919
Speaker 1: It was. It was that almost that direct. So he

807
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: says this every once in a while. I don't know

808
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 1: how the owners feel about it, because it's their wallets, right,

809
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: it's their money. It's their home stadium revenue that you're

810
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 1: talking about. So if you're gonna get rid of a

811
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: preseason game or two, or the whole thing, however you

812
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: change it, you're gonna have to find a way to

813
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 1: replace that revenue. I don't know what way that is.

814
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 1: We talked about eighteen games or seventeen games last week.

815
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 1: We talked about adding another week to the schedule and

816
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: having a double buying that when you get more national

817
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 1: television revenue and that pays for it. But you know

818
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,879
Speaker 1: they're looking at that saying, well, that's what I'm paying

819
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 1: for it, but want to just keep the games. And

820
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: then I all of a sudden, I still have or

821
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: I have a whole lot more money. So I don't

822
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 1: know how they're gonna put that whole thing together. I

823
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: think eventually we'll see a reduction. Look, it used to

824
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:46,320
Speaker 1: be six. It used to be six. Can you imagine.

825
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like half a season. You're playing preseason games.

826
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: Oh no, thank you, yeah, thank you. I don't think

827
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna see that reduced to. I don't know. I

828
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: still think you'll get two, at the very least left

829
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 1: two preseason games. I once asked Butch Davis this question

830
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 1: because he had coached in the NFL, right, yeah, the

831
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: Browns and before that the Cowboys. He said two would

832
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: do it. As a coach, you feel like two is

833
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:16,399
Speaker 1: pretty good. The coaches still wants something. They definitely do

834
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: because there's just something about the game. It's not just well,

835
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: I get great work in these joint practices, that's dynamite,

836
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: But the game, the choreography of the game, the moving

837
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: in and out of stations and all that, getting the

838
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,839
Speaker 1: field goal team. There's something about just going through that

839
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 1: whole exercise that helps them get ready for the regular

840
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 1: Say yeah, when you haven't done that for months, Yeah,

841
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 1: to just go through that a few times. Look at college,

842
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 1: some of these early games are a little clunky. Yeah,

843
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: very much so. So all right, thank you, Johnny. You

844
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:47,919
Speaker 1: got him. Mark on the way out here. Quick note.

845
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: You know, I saw Hamilton over the weekend. I was

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Speaker 1: in Austin, and it was unbelievable. It was so good.

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Speaker 1: You've heard all about it, and I know it's hard

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Speaker 1: to see. It was my first time seeing it, and

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Speaker 1: I've taught to friends who've seen it a couple of times.

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking, how, but it just brought to mind how

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Speaker 1: wonderful sports is as entertainment. I mean, I love other

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Speaker 1: kinds of entertainment TV, movies, shows, whatever. And I said

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Speaker 1: this to a bunch of people this morning. I said,

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Speaker 1: you know, when you're doing shows, when you're doing a

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Speaker 1: Broadway show that you know is good, You're undefeated every night.

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Speaker 1: You're undefeated every night, you win every night. It's one

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Speaker 1: and oh every night when you're doing a concert, you

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Speaker 1: two undefeated every night with sports, there's so much on

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Speaker 1: the line. It's unscripted entertainment. I love it. That's the thing.

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Speaker 1: I can do a whole show on this, a whole

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Speaker 1: podcast on that. Go to our podcast page on Houston

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Speaker 1: Texans dot com or iTunes or whatever to catch up

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Speaker 1: with what it's going on with your Texans and talk

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Speaker 1: to us tomorrow night or listen to us even better

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Speaker 1: six o'clock Sports Radio six ten Texans app. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: listening everyone, Go Texans.