WEBVTT - The Big Tech Stories of 2022: To Space and BEYOND!

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Text Stuff production from I Heart Radio. Hey there,

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome to tech Stuff. I'm your host, Jonathan Strickland.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an executive producer with I Heart Radio. And how

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<v Speaker 1>the tech are you. Well, We're finally ready to wrap

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<v Speaker 1>up our episodes. Looking back on the big text stories

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<v Speaker 1>that unfolded during twenty two, there was so much stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of it was really dramatic. Too much

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<v Speaker 1>of it was just upsetting. So today we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>mostly focus on cool science and tech stuff and that's

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<v Speaker 1>a big old yea. We do what we must because

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<v Speaker 1>we can. So let's start with the James Web Space Telescope.

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<v Speaker 1>After many many delays, in fact years of delay days

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<v Speaker 1>because the telescope was originally intended to launch into space

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<v Speaker 1>way back in two thousand seven, it finally shuffled off

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<v Speaker 1>its earthly coil last Christmas, it lets slip the bonds

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<v Speaker 1>of Earth, and last Christmas, I gave you James Webb.

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<v Speaker 1>The very next day, you said, change that darn name.

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<v Speaker 1>Just a quick word on that. James Webb is the

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<v Speaker 1>name of a former NASA administrator. In fact, he was

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<v Speaker 1>the second ever administrator of NASA, but he had previously

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<v Speaker 1>served as an under Secretary of State at the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>State Department, and he served in that capacity from nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>to nineteen fifty two. Now, this was during a time

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<v Speaker 1>in the US known as the Lavender Scare that refers

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<v Speaker 1>to an erab an ugly era in US history when

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<v Speaker 1>the federal government discriminated against anyone who falls under the

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<v Speaker 1>scope of lgbt Q plus. Essentially, the government would exclude

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<v Speaker 1>or expel people that were known or suspected to not

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<v Speaker 1>be heterosexual, claiming that it was like a national security issue,

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<v Speaker 1>and the State Department in particular was a real target

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<v Speaker 1>of this kind of witch hunt. Congress launched an investigation

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen fifty into the State Department, and President Eisenhower

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<v Speaker 1>would later sign an executive order essentially putting an exclamation

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<v Speaker 1>mark at the end of this pernicious practice. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is one of the many periods of American history

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<v Speaker 1>that are ugly and hateful, and ultimately they are self

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<v Speaker 1>defeating because you can only imagine how many qualified, dedicated

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<v Speaker 1>folks were denied employment simply because they didn't fit the

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<v Speaker 1>extremely narrow set of beliefs of a bunch of old people. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>that policy was in place when Webb took the position

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<v Speaker 1>of now administrator in nineteen sixty one, and in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>one NASA budget analyst named Clifford J. Norton was fired

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<v Speaker 1>because of his sexual orientation that happened in nineteen sixty three. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>because of these events and because of concerns about James

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<v Speaker 1>Webb and his potential role in perpetuating this practice, NASA

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<v Speaker 1>was pressured to conduct a research study into the matter

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<v Speaker 1>to find out what, if any involvement James Webb had

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<v Speaker 1>in carrying out Congress's desires at the State Department, or

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<v Speaker 1>if in fact, he was part of Norton getting fired

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<v Speaker 1>at NASA later on, and the investigation said that there

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<v Speaker 1>was no evidence to show Webb did either of those things.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, according to their investigation, Webb purposefully limited the

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<v Speaker 1>amount of information that Congress could access relating to State

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<v Speaker 1>Department employees. And as for Norton at NASA, he was

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<v Speaker 1>fired and he was fired because he was gay, But

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<v Speaker 1>there was no evidence that Webb was even aware of

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<v Speaker 1>Norton being fired at all. Because keep in mind, Webb

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<v Speaker 1>was the leader of NASA, Norton was a budget analyst,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's not like nor like Webb had direct oversight

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<v Speaker 1>over every single employee at NASA. So the report found

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<v Speaker 1>that there was no evidence that was clearly showing Web

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<v Speaker 1>participating in the persecution of lgbt Q plus personnel. There

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<v Speaker 1>was a tiny bit of evidence suggesting that he did

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<v Speaker 1>limit Congress's reach into the State Department, potentially protecting people.

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<v Speaker 1>So NASA decides that it's gonna stick with the James

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<v Speaker 1>Webb name. Now, y'all, I personally don't know if James

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<v Speaker 1>Webb was a decent guy, or maybe maybe he wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe he just had so much on his plate he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't worry about a policy that perhaps he didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>believe in. I have no clue. I just don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>The NASA report came from the agency's chief historian, so

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<v Speaker 1>it came from NASA's chief His story in You could

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<v Speaker 1>argue that, you know, the fact that it was NASA's

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<v Speaker 1>own chief historian might mean that it could be a

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<v Speaker 1>biased report. But anyway, that's the story behind the name

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<v Speaker 1>and the controversy around it, which flares up every now

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<v Speaker 1>and again. It's not like this is the first time

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<v Speaker 1>we've heard about it, but in two uh that story

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<v Speaker 1>did start making the rounds again. But let's get to

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<v Speaker 1>the telescope itself. Now, NASA launched the James Webb Telescope

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<v Speaker 1>in on Christmas Day, as it turns out, but it

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<v Speaker 1>would take the telescope a month to get to its

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<v Speaker 1>orbital point and to fully deploy, and it took more

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<v Speaker 1>months beyond that for it to actually start doing science.

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<v Speaker 1>And so all of that is really the domain of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two baby. So one month after launch, in January two,

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<v Speaker 1>the telescope arrived at a point in space we call

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<v Speaker 1>L two. The L stands for lagrange, more specifically lagrange point.

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<v Speaker 1>Some people may say lagrange, which is probably the more

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<v Speaker 1>correct pronunciation, but you know, I've also heard NASA folks

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<v Speaker 1>called Gemini geminy, so I guess it's all up for

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<v Speaker 1>grabs anyway. A L Grange point is a position in

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<v Speaker 1>space where an object will stay put relative to the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of its surroundings, like you know, a two body system.

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<v Speaker 1>And so it's a point in space where the gravitational

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<v Speaker 1>forces from nearby bodies like say the Sun and the

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<v Speaker 1>Earth are effectively holding the object in that part of space.

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<v Speaker 1>It can't move away from that because it's being held

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<v Speaker 1>gravitationally by these other bodies. There are five such points

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<v Speaker 1>around the Earth or between the Earth and Sun where

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<v Speaker 1>an object can do this, and the one that the

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<v Speaker 1>James Webb Telescope is in is called L two. That's

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<v Speaker 1>in an orbit that's on the opposite side of the

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<v Speaker 1>Earth from the Sun. So, in other words, this orbit

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<v Speaker 1>is shaded from much of the Sun's light, which is

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<v Speaker 1>important for the telescope's extremely sensitive detectors when it's making observations. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it does still get some light. Otherwise it wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>able to collect light through its solar panels, and the

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<v Speaker 1>solar panels would be for decorative use only, and that

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<v Speaker 1>would be ridiculous. It is a very sensitive telescope. That

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<v Speaker 1>James Webb Space Telescope is about seven times more powerful

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<v Speaker 1>than the venerable Hubble Space Telescope, and it has already

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<v Speaker 1>returned some truly spectacular data, including images such as a

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<v Speaker 1>shot of the Pillars of Creation. This is a dust cloud.

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<v Speaker 1>There's really compelling shape to it. I'm sure you've seen

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<v Speaker 1>pictures of it. If not, you should look up Pillars

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<v Speaker 1>of Creation on an image search because they it really

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<v Speaker 1>is a spectacular site. We've seen some pictures of early

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<v Speaker 1>star formation, which is great. It's having astronomers more information

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<v Speaker 1>about how stars form. We've looked at galactic black holes

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<v Speaker 1>that are far across the universe from our own galaxy.

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<v Speaker 1>We've looked at exo planets orbiting a star, and these

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<v Speaker 1>exo plants potentially could have viable atmospheres and so could

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<v Speaker 1>possibly support life. And we're just getting started and considering

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<v Speaker 1>how complicated the telescope is. This was never a guarantee.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the massive eighteen solar panels had to unfold

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<v Speaker 1>as the telescope made its way to L two over

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<v Speaker 1>the course of a month, and just one failure would

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<v Speaker 1>have brought the entire mission into jeopardy or at least

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<v Speaker 1>severely limited its use. And since NASA had spent decades

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<v Speaker 1>and like ten billion dollars on this thing, it would

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<v Speaker 1>be really bad if things hadn't worked out. But it did,

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<v Speaker 1>so good news there. It did have a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of hiccup recently, so on December seven two, just a

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<v Speaker 1>few weeks ago, several of its instruments aboard the telescope

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<v Speaker 1>went into safe mode, so that means they temporarily shut

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<v Speaker 1>down in order to protect delicate hardware. The source of

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<v Speaker 1>the problem turned out to be a software fault, So

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<v Speaker 1>this software was essentially generating errors that related to the

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<v Speaker 1>telescope's attitude control. Now, in this sense, attitude control isn't

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<v Speaker 1>about making sure the telescope doesn't act out like a

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<v Speaker 1>hormonal teenager. I wish we had that kind of attitude

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<v Speaker 1>control here on Earth. No, we're talking about the telescope's

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<v Speaker 1>physical orientation in space, like where it is pointed that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of attitude. So the software was generating an error

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<v Speaker 1>that suggested something was wrong with this system when nothing

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<v Speaker 1>actually was. The shutdowns affected some, but not all, of

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<v Speaker 1>the experiments that the telescope was involved in. Work had

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<v Speaker 1>to pause on certain projects while engineers back on Earth

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<v Speaker 1>sused what was going on. But by December twenty those

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<v Speaker 1>engineers had figured out a solution. They were able to

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<v Speaker 1>essentially patch the software, and now the telescope is back

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<v Speaker 1>doing science in space full time. NASA reports the telescope

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<v Speaker 1>is in great condition and the agency is working to

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<v Speaker 1>reschedule the affected projects that had to delay as the

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<v Speaker 1>software was glitching out. The telescope is bound to tell

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<v Speaker 1>us about the early stages of the universe already. It

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<v Speaker 1>has captured images of systems that are like only four

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<v Speaker 1>hundred million years younger than the universe itself, Like, in

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<v Speaker 1>other words, the universe comes into existence, and then these

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<v Speaker 1>systems started within four hundred million years of that. And yes,

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<v Speaker 1>four hundred million years as an astoundingly long time on

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<v Speaker 1>our scale, right, Yes, that's that's unfathomable. However, when we

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<v Speaker 1>consider the universe is somewhere in the neighborhood of thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>point seven billion years old, it's really just a fraction

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<v Speaker 1>a moment after the big bang, uh banged. The telescope

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<v Speaker 1>is creating new possibilities in the fields of astronomy and cosmology,

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<v Speaker 1>and my guess is we're going to learn a ton

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<v Speaker 1>of fascinating stuff about our universe and by extension, our

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<v Speaker 1>own solar system in history. And that's just plain cool. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>sticking with NASA, we have a related topic that's been

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<v Speaker 1>somewhat controversial in multiple spheres, and I'm talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>Artemists program. This is NASA's plan to return to the Moon.

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<v Speaker 1>And to be clear, it's not just NASA. NASA's working

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<v Speaker 1>in conjunction with other space agencies out there, and by return,

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<v Speaker 1>I am including the goal of actually landing people on

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<v Speaker 1>the Moon's surface. This would be the first time we

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<v Speaker 1>have done that since nineteen seventy two in the Apollo

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen mission. So the Artemist program has a pretty complicated history.

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<v Speaker 1>Back in the mid two thousand's, during the George W.

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<v Speaker 1>Bush and sistration in the United States, NASA initiated a

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<v Speaker 1>program called Constellation. This had the goal of returning to

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<v Speaker 1>the Moon, among other things. This program was linked with

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of related but distinct projects that were really

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<v Speaker 1>focused on building the next generation of spacecraft that would

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<v Speaker 1>turn out into the Orion and the Space Launch System.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep in mind, this was all going on while the

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<v Speaker 1>Space Shuttle was still in service, but it's retirement date

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<v Speaker 1>was coming up, So this was work that was being

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<v Speaker 1>done with the knowledge that the Space Shuttle program was

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<v Speaker 1>going to be sunset. Now when Barack Obama won the

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<v Speaker 1>election to president, things changed, and this frequently happens with NASA.

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually one of the really big challenges that the

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<v Speaker 1>agency faces because there's no guarantee that an incoming administration

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<v Speaker 1>will continue to support the efforts that were begun under

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<v Speaker 1>a previous administration. So not only do you have the

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<v Speaker 1>technical challenges of creating the spacecraft that will complete a mission,

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<v Speaker 1>or the engineering challenges of planning out the mission itself

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<v Speaker 1>and the various processes that the mission is gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to follow. You also have the political reality that you're

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<v Speaker 1>funding can change dramatically year to year, depending upon the

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<v Speaker 1>makeup of Congress, and it can change even more so

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<v Speaker 1>from presidential administration to administration. Obama effectively canceled Constellation. He

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<v Speaker 1>said the program was behind schedule and it was over budget.

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<v Speaker 1>It was both of those things. Further, he said the

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<v Speaker 1>program was leaning too hard on the Apollo program of

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<v Speaker 1>the sixties and seventies, that the Orion spacecraft it does,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, essentially look like a larger version of the

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<v Speaker 1>Apollo capsule. The launch vehicle looks like an update to

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<v Speaker 1>the launch vehicles that we used fifty years ago, and

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<v Speaker 1>Obama criticized the program for lacking in innovation. A committee

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<v Speaker 1>found that Constellation, despite being over budget, was also underfunded,

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<v Speaker 1>and that there was no chance the program would be

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<v Speaker 1>able to achieve a moon land by twenty which was

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<v Speaker 1>one of its goals, and so rather than pouring more

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<v Speaker 1>money into this program that the administration saw as sort

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<v Speaker 1>of bleeding cash, Obama chose to essentially freeze it out.

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<v Speaker 1>The focus began to shift toward commercial space companies, primarily

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<v Speaker 1>SpaceX as carrying the load for the near term, although

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<v Speaker 1>work would continue on developing the next generation of spacecraft

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<v Speaker 1>for NASA itself, so Oriyan and the Space Launch System

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<v Speaker 1>We're not scrapped. They continued on. And the benefit I

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<v Speaker 1>guess of that was that or the reason they were

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<v Speaker 1>able to do this, I guess was because they were not, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>intrinsically part of Constellation. Okay, this will bring us up

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<v Speaker 1>to two thousand seventeen, and the Artemis program it got

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<v Speaker 1>its start under the administration of Donald Trump, and it

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<v Speaker 1>picked up some of the threads that were dropped when

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<v Speaker 1>Constellation got the AX. We'll talk more about that in

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<v Speaker 1>just a moment after we come back from this quick break. So,

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<v Speaker 1>the Artist program is a joint effort between NASA and

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<v Speaker 1>other space agencies like the e s A, the European

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<v Speaker 1>Space Agency, and its main goals to establish a permanent

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<v Speaker 1>presence on the Moon and a lunar orbital station meant

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<v Speaker 1>to help stage further human exploration of space. So the

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<v Speaker 1>primary spacecraft for this mission is the Orion and the

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<v Speaker 1>launch vehicle is the Space Launch System or s l S. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the SLS alone has been the subject of a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of controversy, mostly stemming from the contractors that NASA has

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<v Speaker 1>relied upon during the very long development process for this

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<v Speaker 1>launch system. So yeah. Another big challenge with NASA is

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<v Speaker 1>that the agency does a lot of contracting with massive

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<v Speaker 1>aerospace companies to produce various components for stuff like spacecraft, spacesuits,

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<v Speaker 1>launch vehicles, that kind of thing. So it's not like

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<v Speaker 1>NASA has some sort of foundry where it just um

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<v Speaker 1>use as a massive blacksmiths who create rockets and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>They contract with these very big companies that specialize in

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<v Speaker 1>aerospace uh technologies. So these contracts can get really expensive.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes individual projects will take more time than was estimated

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<v Speaker 1>and cost more than was estimated during the proposal phase,

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<v Speaker 1>and frequently NASA becomes the subject of scrutiny when various

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<v Speaker 1>analysts and journalists and politicians and others ask, hey, did

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<v Speaker 1>you really pick the best contractor to do this because

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<v Speaker 1>it's running over budget and behind deadline. The problem is,

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<v Speaker 1>we usually don't know the answer to the question is

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<v Speaker 1>this the best contractor for the job until it's too late.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, NASA often gets put in the spotlight for

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<v Speaker 1>budget issue and contractor choices. There's always the question of

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<v Speaker 1>was the choice of contractor a political choice or was

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<v Speaker 1>it the best choice for the mission? Like there are

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of these issues that NASA has to contend

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<v Speaker 1>with as well. Anyway, all of this plagued the SLS

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<v Speaker 1>and it took years and years and years for it

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<v Speaker 1>to finally get to the point where they could launch

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<v Speaker 1>the darned thing. Uh So, it was first proposed to

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<v Speaker 1>launch way back in sixteen, but it took six years

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<v Speaker 1>to get to where NASA could actually do a a

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<v Speaker 1>full launch of the SLS, And within those six years

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<v Speaker 1>there were multiple launch dates that had been proposed and postponed.

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<v Speaker 1>It led some to question if the whole thing was

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<v Speaker 1>just going to be a bust, if it's just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be a massive failure. But this year we finally got

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<v Speaker 1>a launch. Now it was meant to launch in August,

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<v Speaker 1>but then one of the sensors of the launch vehicle

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<v Speaker 1>indicated that part of the engine was warmer than it

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<v Speaker 1>should be and it put it outside the parameters of

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<v Speaker 1>safe operation, so the launch was scrubbed. NASA would try

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<v Speaker 1>again the following month in September, but then we got

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<v Speaker 1>word that there was some sort of hydrogen leak in

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<v Speaker 1>part of the system and that necessitated canceling that launch.

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<v Speaker 1>Then it got pushed October, but this time it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>NASA's fault. We had a hurricane, actually had a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of them, but Hurricane Ian was the big one. I

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<v Speaker 1>was actually on a ship that was at sea when

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<v Speaker 1>Ian hit. We were supposed to return to Cape Canaveral

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<v Speaker 1>Port Canaveral, and we couldn't because of Ian, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was stuck at sea for a few days more than

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<v Speaker 1>was my original plan. That was exciting. But finally on

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<v Speaker 1>November sixteenth, NASA was able to launch the Space Launch

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<v Speaker 1>System the SLS, and attached to it was an oryon spacecraft.

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<v Speaker 1>Now there was no human crew aboard that capsule, but

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<v Speaker 1>there were some mannequins and a plush toy or two,

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<v Speaker 1>and it also carried a biology experiment designated Biology Experiment

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<v Speaker 1>One that aimed to study space radiations effects on fungi

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<v Speaker 1>and yeast and seeds and such, because obviously any kind

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<v Speaker 1>of prolonged human activity in space means that humans are

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<v Speaker 1>potentially going to be uh exposed to various types of

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<v Speaker 1>radiation that otherwise they'd be protected from here on Earth.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was the goal of that particular experiment was

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<v Speaker 1>to learn a little bit more about that. The s

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<v Speaker 1>l s successfully attained orbit. The Orion spacecraft successfully separated

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<v Speaker 1>from the launch vehicle, and it went on a twenty

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<v Speaker 1>six ish like twenty five and a half day long

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<v Speaker 1>trip that took it all the way around the back

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<v Speaker 1>side of the Moon and returned to Earth. So on Sunday,

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<v Speaker 1>December eleven two, the Orion capsule from Artemis one returned

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<v Speaker 1>to Earth. Its splashed down in the Pacific Ocean and

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<v Speaker 1>a Navy crew retrieved the capsule and it will be

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<v Speaker 1>transported back to UH to Kennedy Space Center in Florida.

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<v Speaker 1>So that concluded the Artemis one mission. And it was

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<v Speaker 1>an enormous achievement. And yes it was an achievement that

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<v Speaker 1>had been long delayed, but it's still demonstrated this capability

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<v Speaker 1>that humanity can return to the Moon, and it's a

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<v Speaker 1>type of space exploration the humans just haven't engaged in

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<v Speaker 1>in fifty years, so it was a really big deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Analysts are going to look over the data from the

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<v Speaker 1>Artemis one mission and use that data to help prepare

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<v Speaker 1>for Artemis two. This will be the first mission in

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<v Speaker 1>the Artemis program to include a human crew aboard and

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<v Speaker 1>Orion spacecraft, but this mission will not include a lunar landing.

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<v Speaker 1>The mission will go into outer space and the crew

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<v Speaker 1>will pilot the Orion capsule and put it through its paces,

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<v Speaker 1>but it will not land on the Moon. That won't

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<v Speaker 1>happen until Artemis three. The Artemis two mission will happen

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<v Speaker 1>no earlier than and then Artemis three will happen at

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<v Speaker 1>some point after that, maybe as early as but I

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<v Speaker 1>would be a little cautious to put that as the

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<v Speaker 1>actual date when it will happen. As I mentioned earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>there's actually disagreement regarding whether the Artemis program is a

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<v Speaker 1>worthy use of time, money, and resources. Some would prefer

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<v Speaker 1>more of a focus on Mars rather than the Moon.

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<v Speaker 1>Some question the value of sending humans at all, and

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<v Speaker 1>we can rely more on robots and unscrewed missions. Then

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<v Speaker 1>there are critics who think going back to the Moon

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<v Speaker 1>is a good idea, but they don't agree with the

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<v Speaker 1>way Artemis programs process has that laid out. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>agree with that plan. As for myself, I'm actually conflicted.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not really sure how to feel about it. I

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<v Speaker 1>do think these missions can be inspiring. I think there's

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<v Speaker 1>always benefits that emerge as a result of the work

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<v Speaker 1>that is necessary to make these mission as possible. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>engineers have to figure out how to make this work,

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<v Speaker 1>and in the process they create things that can have

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<v Speaker 1>other uses here on Earth. So we can have real

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<v Speaker 1>benefits to the advancements that people make just in order

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<v Speaker 1>to accomplish the goals of these missions. So that's good.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I don't know. I don't know how I

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<v Speaker 1>feel about Artemis, but it's I certainly want to see

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<v Speaker 1>more people inspired to pursue science and engineering and that

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<v Speaker 1>sort of thing. And there is no doubt that stories

0:22:35.480 --> 0:22:38.439
<v Speaker 1>about astronauts going back to the Moon is a really

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<v Speaker 1>inspiring story. Another great NASA story for two was the

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<v Speaker 1>success of the DART mission. You might recall that DART

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<v Speaker 1>stands for double Asteroid Redirection Test, and that this mission

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<v Speaker 1>was to test whether or not smashing a spacecraft into

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<v Speaker 1>something like an asteroid could divert its path sufficiently sufficiently

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<v Speaker 1>so that you can move it out of the way of, say,

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<v Speaker 1>a trajectory that would take it towards Earth. Uh. The

0:23:06.080 --> 0:23:09.840
<v Speaker 1>reason that this is important is that on occasion, fairly

0:23:09.920 --> 0:23:16.320
<v Speaker 1>sizeable stuff does smash into our planet and have catastrophic consequences. Uh.

0:23:16.600 --> 0:23:20.719
<v Speaker 1>You can ask the dinosaurs about that. Oh wait, you can't,

0:23:21.119 --> 0:23:24.399
<v Speaker 1>because they're all dead because of a celestial object that

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<v Speaker 1>smashed into the Earth and made it uninhabitable for Donna Sawas.

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<v Speaker 1>So for years there have been folks wondering about how

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<v Speaker 1>we might be able to alter the trajectory of something

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<v Speaker 1>that otherwise could be on a collision course with the Earth,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's been a lot of proposals. Of course, you've

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<v Speaker 1>got the Hollywood version in which we send Bruce Willis

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<v Speaker 1>up there to blow up an incoming asteroid. This, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, would be a very bad idea because instead

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<v Speaker 1>of one huge rock hurdling at us, you would create

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of slightly smaller rocks hurtling at us d

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<v Speaker 1>like turning a bullet into a cloud of shotgun pellets.

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<v Speaker 1>And some of those might incenterate upon entering the Earth's atmosphere,

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<v Speaker 1>but a lot of them would make it down to Earth,

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<v Speaker 1>and essentially all you would be doing is increasing the

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<v Speaker 1>surface area of impact. It would not be a good

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<v Speaker 1>idea anyway, One of the possible solutions that is considered

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<v Speaker 1>to be a good idea is to send up a

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<v Speaker 1>spacecraft to act as a sort of battering ram and

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<v Speaker 1>to nudge and object like a meteor or an asteroid

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<v Speaker 1>enough so that it doesn't hit our planet. But how

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<v Speaker 1>do you test that. You don't wait for the day

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<v Speaker 1>when you definitely have to do something because something's heading

0:24:37.480 --> 0:24:40.960
<v Speaker 1>our way, because if it doesn't work, well that's bad.

0:24:41.200 --> 0:24:43.480
<v Speaker 1>So you need to test it in advance. So what

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<v Speaker 1>NASA did was it identified a couple of asteroids or

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<v Speaker 1>if you prefer an asteroid, and it's quote unquote moonlit,

0:24:53.720 --> 0:24:56.840
<v Speaker 1>and the Dart spacecraft crashed into the moonlight, which has

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<v Speaker 1>a name, thank you very much, it's dimorphous. So the

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<v Speaker 1>goal was to alter dimorphoses orbit around its asteroid and

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<v Speaker 1>reduce the orbit by at least seventy three seconds. So

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<v Speaker 1>on September twenty two, Dart makes contact with Dimorphous and

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<v Speaker 1>then astronomers are surprised to see that the orbit did shorten,

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<v Speaker 1>but it shortened way more than seventy three seconds. It

0:25:21.600 --> 0:25:26.160
<v Speaker 1>became thirty two minutes shorter. So this was a huge success.

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<v Speaker 1>Dart showed that using a bit of percussive maintenance, we

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<v Speaker 1>can change the flight path of a small body in space,

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<v Speaker 1>and that kind of knowledge can end up being really

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<v Speaker 1>important should we detect such a small object that is

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<v Speaker 1>on a collision course with our planet, And the earlier

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<v Speaker 1>we detected, the better our chances are, and also the

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<v Speaker 1>less we need to actually move the object to put

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<v Speaker 1>it on a different path. Right like if if it's

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<v Speaker 1>far enough out, you just have to alter its course

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<v Speaker 1>by a couple of degrees and it will completely miss

0:25:57.520 --> 0:26:01.040
<v Speaker 1>the Earth. So that shows that it's really important one

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<v Speaker 1>to have the solution of how you move it, and

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<v Speaker 1>too that you're able to identify these objects as early

0:26:06.800 --> 0:26:10.639
<v Speaker 1>as possible, because not only do you have to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>find it, but you also have to prepare the mission

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<v Speaker 1>and launch it in time for it to make a difference.

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<v Speaker 1>So very important work. Here one more space thing I

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk about before I go to break, So

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<v Speaker 1>I covered in yesterday's episode the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 1>Well clearly that has had a big effect on space

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<v Speaker 1>efforts as well as terrestrial technology matters. Russia has facilities,

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<v Speaker 1>it has launch vehicles, it is a space capable nation

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<v Speaker 1>one of the few on Earth. There's only like half

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<v Speaker 1>a dozen of them on Earth, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>space agencies in in Europe and elsewhere depend upon Russia

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<v Speaker 1>as the staging grounds for their own space missions. But

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<v Speaker 1>with the world placing sanctions on Russia, this became untenable politically,

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<v Speaker 1>and so several missions had to be postponed or outrights

0:27:05.280 --> 0:27:09.919
<v Speaker 1>canceled scrapped. So, for example, the European Space Agency, the

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<v Speaker 1>e s A, had a Mars mission planned, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was going to use Russian hardware and a Russian launch facility,

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<v Speaker 1>and the e s A subsequently chose to postpone the

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<v Speaker 1>mission and instead they will end up reconfiguring the entire

0:27:26.680 --> 0:27:29.320
<v Speaker 1>mission so that it will not rely on Russian hardware

0:27:29.400 --> 0:27:32.800
<v Speaker 1>and launch facilities. That will take about three years and

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<v Speaker 1>something like seventeen billion euro an incredible decision like to

0:27:39.359 --> 0:27:44.639
<v Speaker 1>to make that choice sends a pretty powerful message. Or

0:27:45.160 --> 0:27:48.359
<v Speaker 1>take the story of one Web. Now, I'll have to

0:27:48.400 --> 0:27:50.879
<v Speaker 1>do a full episode about One Web in the future,

0:27:50.960 --> 0:27:55.199
<v Speaker 1>because that company has had a dramatic history. Technically you

0:27:55.200 --> 0:27:59.080
<v Speaker 1>could say companies, because really it it was like the phoenix,

0:27:59.119 --> 0:28:03.040
<v Speaker 1>It collapsed and burnt up, and then a new version

0:28:03.080 --> 0:28:05.960
<v Speaker 1>of one Web rose from the ashes. It started off

0:28:05.960 --> 0:28:08.960
<v Speaker 1>in America as a company aiming to bring satellite based

0:28:08.960 --> 0:28:12.040
<v Speaker 1>broadband internet connectivity to the market. And it'll be clear

0:28:12.080 --> 0:28:15.840
<v Speaker 1>there already were satellite based internet companies in place, but

0:28:15.960 --> 0:28:18.960
<v Speaker 1>one Web's goal was to use very small or relatively

0:28:19.040 --> 0:28:23.919
<v Speaker 1>small and relatively inexpensive satellites and then create constellations of

0:28:23.920 --> 0:28:27.080
<v Speaker 1>the satellites that would provide uninterrupted service to customers on

0:28:27.119 --> 0:28:30.439
<v Speaker 1>the ground. And you might be thinking, ha, this sounds

0:28:30.440 --> 0:28:33.040
<v Speaker 1>a bit like starlink, and you would be right. In fact,

0:28:33.200 --> 0:28:36.239
<v Speaker 1>very early on, one Web was working with SpaceX on

0:28:36.359 --> 0:28:39.760
<v Speaker 1>plans for this service to use SpaceX to help launch

0:28:40.080 --> 0:28:42.720
<v Speaker 1>the satellites up into space. And then a year or

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<v Speaker 1>so later, Elon Musk announced SpaceX is competing business Starlink

0:28:47.440 --> 0:28:51.400
<v Speaker 1>that had a very familiar business plan to it. I'm

0:28:51.440 --> 0:28:55.160
<v Speaker 1>not saying anything happened, I'm just saying that's a fact.

0:28:55.480 --> 0:28:59.360
<v Speaker 1>So anyway, the US based one web actually went bankrupt

0:28:59.440 --> 0:29:04.400
<v Speaker 1>in twenty Winny. The pandemic killed that business, and a

0:29:04.440 --> 0:29:09.400
<v Speaker 1>consortium that included the UK government purchased the company's assets

0:29:09.400 --> 0:29:14.480
<v Speaker 1>in auction bankruptcy auction in November. So the one Web

0:29:14.560 --> 0:29:19.400
<v Speaker 1>of today is a different company than the original one Web. Anyway,

0:29:19.640 --> 0:29:22.400
<v Speaker 1>One Web had planned to launch more than thirty satellites

0:29:22.440 --> 0:29:26.080
<v Speaker 1>on a Russian launch vehicle earlier this year in two

0:29:26.440 --> 0:29:29.760
<v Speaker 1>but then Russia invaded Ukraine and there was pressure on

0:29:29.800 --> 0:29:35.240
<v Speaker 1>the UK government to scrap the mission. Russia told one Web, hey,

0:29:35.280 --> 0:29:38.400
<v Speaker 1>this thing is paid for, so if you pinky swear

0:29:38.520 --> 0:29:41.240
<v Speaker 1>that none of these satellites will ever be used by militaries,

0:29:41.600 --> 0:29:44.760
<v Speaker 1>then we're good. Ski. Also, the UK government needs to

0:29:44.800 --> 0:29:49.440
<v Speaker 1>sell off its interest in one Web, but the UK

0:29:49.480 --> 0:29:51.360
<v Speaker 1>government was not ready to do that. It did not

0:29:51.480 --> 0:29:53.680
<v Speaker 1>want to give up ownership of one Web. It did

0:29:53.720 --> 0:29:56.600
<v Speaker 1>not want to guarantee that it would not use the

0:29:56.640 --> 0:30:01.440
<v Speaker 1>satellite communication system for military purposes, so they refused to

0:30:01.720 --> 0:30:06.000
<v Speaker 1>acquiesce to the request, and Russia scrapped the mission and

0:30:06.080 --> 0:30:12.240
<v Speaker 1>kept the satellites woof. Also, Russia announced in the summer

0:30:12.280 --> 0:30:15.080
<v Speaker 1>of this year that it will leave the International Space

0:30:15.120 --> 0:30:19.000
<v Speaker 1>Station in four and will prepare to launch its own

0:30:19.040 --> 0:30:22.560
<v Speaker 1>independent space station. The i s S has already served

0:30:22.600 --> 0:30:26.800
<v Speaker 1>well pasted its initial estimated decommissioned date, but the hope

0:30:26.840 --> 0:30:29.880
<v Speaker 1>in the US was to continue operations until twenty thirty

0:30:30.080 --> 0:30:32.920
<v Speaker 1>or so. This will be a lot harder to do

0:30:33.000 --> 0:30:36.600
<v Speaker 1>without the cooperation of the Russians, who handle a lot

0:30:36.680 --> 0:30:39.360
<v Speaker 1>of the propulsion systems aboard the I S S. So

0:30:39.440 --> 0:30:41.520
<v Speaker 1>unless they hand those over, it's going to be real

0:30:41.640 --> 0:30:43.920
<v Speaker 1>hard to keep the I S S an operation not

0:30:43.960 --> 0:30:48.400
<v Speaker 1>necessarily impossible, but really hard. But this announcement struck some

0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:50.640
<v Speaker 1>as being another attempt by Russia to kind of strike

0:30:50.720 --> 0:30:55.560
<v Speaker 1>a blow to the West, and maybe it was all right,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna take another quick break when we come back.

0:30:58.040 --> 0:31:11.520
<v Speaker 1>It's grab bag time. Okay. Like I said before the break,

0:31:11.520 --> 0:31:13.880
<v Speaker 1>we're in a kind of grab bag situation of various

0:31:13.880 --> 0:31:17.360
<v Speaker 1>scientific and technological advancements that we saw in two. And

0:31:17.400 --> 0:31:20.720
<v Speaker 1>let's get our start with nuclear fusion. So to recap,

0:31:20.800 --> 0:31:24.240
<v Speaker 1>fusion is when two atoms fuse together and they form

0:31:24.360 --> 0:31:28.320
<v Speaker 1>a heavier atom. And it's the process that happens in

0:31:28.400 --> 0:31:31.680
<v Speaker 1>the Sun where hydrogen is built into helium at a

0:31:31.680 --> 0:31:35.840
<v Speaker 1>temperature of millions of degrees. See in the Sun, you've

0:31:35.840 --> 0:31:40.040
<v Speaker 1>got incredible forces of gravity and heat that allow for

0:31:40.080 --> 0:31:44.280
<v Speaker 1>this nuclear process to happen. And an output of this process,

0:31:44.400 --> 0:31:48.160
<v Speaker 1>besides helium, is a huge release of energy, and that

0:31:48.320 --> 0:31:51.120
<v Speaker 1>energy is what we here on Earth receive and it

0:31:51.160 --> 0:31:56.640
<v Speaker 1>makes life possible. Now contrast this with nuclear fission. This

0:31:56.720 --> 0:31:59.480
<v Speaker 1>is the process where we take a heavy atom, such

0:31:59.480 --> 0:32:02.760
<v Speaker 1>as your neum, and we use some force to split

0:32:02.800 --> 0:32:06.680
<v Speaker 1>this atom into two or more lighter atoms and possibly

0:32:06.720 --> 0:32:11.520
<v Speaker 1>some other byproducts. This process also releases energy. In fact,

0:32:11.600 --> 0:32:14.480
<v Speaker 1>this is the process that our nuclear power plants use

0:32:14.760 --> 0:32:19.320
<v Speaker 1>here on Earth. There are some drawbacks to this approach, however, Namely,

0:32:19.640 --> 0:32:22.640
<v Speaker 1>you end up with some radioactive byproducts that are dangerous

0:32:22.680 --> 0:32:26.040
<v Speaker 1>to organic critters like us. So you have to figure

0:32:26.040 --> 0:32:29.720
<v Speaker 1>out what are you gonna do with these byproducts. Typically

0:32:29.760 --> 0:32:33.480
<v Speaker 1>it involves putting nuclear waste in dry casks and then

0:32:33.920 --> 0:32:37.840
<v Speaker 1>storing those on site that the nuclear power plants. And

0:32:37.920 --> 0:32:40.400
<v Speaker 1>meanwhile the world debates on where to put the stuff

0:32:40.480 --> 0:32:44.160
<v Speaker 1>long term. And here in the United States there was

0:32:44.200 --> 0:32:46.960
<v Speaker 1>a proposal for a really long time to store it

0:32:47.080 --> 0:32:52.840
<v Speaker 1>under Yucka Mountain in Nevada, But those plans have encountered

0:32:52.920 --> 0:32:56.280
<v Speaker 1>lots of opposition. It turns out folks are not keen

0:32:56.360 --> 0:32:59.920
<v Speaker 1>on the idea of having material that emits invisible dead

0:33:00.120 --> 0:33:03.800
<v Speaker 1>lee levels of radiation anywhere close to them, or even

0:33:04.200 --> 0:33:07.200
<v Speaker 1>not that close to them, like a decent distance from them,

0:33:07.240 --> 0:33:11.600
<v Speaker 1>is still not far enough at least in their minds.

0:33:11.640 --> 0:33:14.080
<v Speaker 1>And that's kind of understandable. I mean, like I said,

0:33:14.160 --> 0:33:18.840
<v Speaker 1>nuclear radiation is invisible, and unless there's a really intense

0:33:18.920 --> 0:33:22.560
<v Speaker 1>amount of it, it's undetectable to your typical person unless

0:33:22.560 --> 0:33:24.840
<v Speaker 1>they have to be carrying a Geiger counter or something

0:33:24.880 --> 0:33:29.680
<v Speaker 1>like that. Anyway, while proponents and opponents of nuclear power

0:33:29.800 --> 0:33:32.440
<v Speaker 1>argue about whether or not there is a truly safe

0:33:32.440 --> 0:33:36.560
<v Speaker 1>way to store nuclear waste long term, there's this tempting

0:33:36.680 --> 0:33:42.080
<v Speaker 1>possibility of nuclear fusion. Fusion doesn't create the same kind

0:33:42.080 --> 0:33:46.880
<v Speaker 1>of radioactive materials that fission does. Uh. It does have

0:33:47.000 --> 0:33:49.800
<v Speaker 1>some byproducts to some waste that we'd have to deal with,

0:33:49.800 --> 0:33:53.640
<v Speaker 1>but nothing on the level of nuclear fission, and that

0:33:53.840 --> 0:33:57.600
<v Speaker 1>gives it a really attractive uh slant. Another is that

0:33:58.000 --> 0:34:01.320
<v Speaker 1>the main fuel source, we would use hydrogen as the

0:34:01.320 --> 0:34:04.400
<v Speaker 1>most plentiful stuff on the planet. There, but there are

0:34:04.400 --> 0:34:07.040
<v Speaker 1>some catches. Uh. One of the big catches is that

0:34:07.080 --> 0:34:09.319
<v Speaker 1>to initiate fusion, you have to use a lot of

0:34:09.400 --> 0:34:13.760
<v Speaker 1>energy to get things started. Remember, the reason this happens

0:34:13.760 --> 0:34:16.120
<v Speaker 1>in the sun is because you have this incredible force

0:34:16.160 --> 0:34:22.279
<v Speaker 1>of gravity and this intense heat that provides the ignition

0:34:22.880 --> 0:34:27.520
<v Speaker 1>energy needed to keep this process going, So we have

0:34:27.640 --> 0:34:30.200
<v Speaker 1>to do sort of the same thing here on Earth

0:34:30.440 --> 0:34:33.359
<v Speaker 1>somehow without you know, turning the Earth into the sun.

0:34:33.880 --> 0:34:37.840
<v Speaker 1>So meanwhile, if you get less energy out than what

0:34:37.960 --> 0:34:40.400
<v Speaker 1>you got putting into it, well that means you're spending

0:34:40.400 --> 0:34:43.680
<v Speaker 1>more energy than you're getting back. This is a bad investment.

0:34:45.120 --> 0:34:48.000
<v Speaker 1>But then we saw some exciting progress in this field

0:34:48.040 --> 0:34:51.720
<v Speaker 1>this year. Not too long ago, scientists at the Lawrence

0:34:51.760 --> 0:34:56.560
<v Speaker 1>Livermore National Laboratory held a fusion experiment in which the

0:34:56.640 --> 0:35:00.359
<v Speaker 1>energy emitted was greater than the laser energy g that

0:35:00.440 --> 0:35:03.960
<v Speaker 1>was used to generate the reaction in the first place. Specifically,

0:35:04.320 --> 0:35:08.080
<v Speaker 1>the lasers delivered two point zero five mega jules of

0:35:08.160 --> 0:35:14.040
<v Speaker 1>energy to the little fusion pellet, and the reaction generated

0:35:14.280 --> 0:35:17.200
<v Speaker 1>three point one five mega jules of energy. So two

0:35:17.200 --> 0:35:20.480
<v Speaker 1>point oh five in three point one five out, So

0:35:20.520 --> 0:35:25.160
<v Speaker 1>we get more out than we put in sort of. Now,

0:35:25.200 --> 0:35:28.040
<v Speaker 1>I say sort of because this only works if we're

0:35:28.080 --> 0:35:30.760
<v Speaker 1>just looking at the amount of energy that the lasers

0:35:30.800 --> 0:35:34.920
<v Speaker 1>delivered versus the amount of energy released by the fusion

0:35:35.080 --> 0:35:39.239
<v Speaker 1>inside the pellet. However, if we then consider how much

0:35:39.360 --> 0:35:43.800
<v Speaker 1>energy we needed to consume to generate that laser power

0:35:43.840 --> 0:35:48.520
<v Speaker 1>in the first place things change because unfortunately, lasers are

0:35:48.560 --> 0:35:52.640
<v Speaker 1>not particularly energy efficient devices. So in order to generate

0:35:52.680 --> 0:35:55.600
<v Speaker 1>that two point oh five mega jules of laser energy,

0:35:56.040 --> 0:35:59.360
<v Speaker 1>the lab actually had to pull three hundred mega jules

0:35:59.400 --> 0:36:02.960
<v Speaker 1>of energy on the electrical grid. So when you think

0:36:03.000 --> 0:36:05.200
<v Speaker 1>about it in that respect, you see they had to

0:36:05.320 --> 0:36:07.640
<v Speaker 1>use a hundred times the amount of energy they got

0:36:07.680 --> 0:36:11.880
<v Speaker 1>out of that reaction, and yeah, taking them into account

0:36:11.880 --> 0:36:15.800
<v Speaker 1>as a bummer, but this experiment is still really encouraging,

0:36:15.840 --> 0:36:19.040
<v Speaker 1>and that's partly because this is not the only way

0:36:19.200 --> 0:36:22.520
<v Speaker 1>we can achieve fusion. It's just one of them. Lasers

0:36:22.600 --> 0:36:25.359
<v Speaker 1>are just involved in in a couple of the different ways.

0:36:25.440 --> 0:36:29.000
<v Speaker 1>There are other ways as well, and if we can

0:36:29.360 --> 0:36:32.239
<v Speaker 1>get the same sort of results that the scientists got

0:36:32.239 --> 0:36:36.120
<v Speaker 1>out of this experiment, then we might be on the

0:36:36.239 --> 0:36:39.440
<v Speaker 1>right track here on Earth. It's pretty hard to replicate

0:36:39.480 --> 0:36:42.040
<v Speaker 1>the conditions of the Sun, but this experiment brought us

0:36:42.080 --> 0:36:44.279
<v Speaker 1>a little step closer to doing it. And if we

0:36:44.280 --> 0:36:46.440
<v Speaker 1>can get nuclear fusion to work out for us in

0:36:46.440 --> 0:36:49.400
<v Speaker 1>the long run, it will really address our energy needs

0:36:49.440 --> 0:36:53.719
<v Speaker 1>for well for our lifetimes and well beyond our lifetimes,

0:36:53.719 --> 0:36:57.000
<v Speaker 1>and that's exciting. It would let us move off of

0:36:57.040 --> 0:37:00.440
<v Speaker 1>fossil fuels entirely, and that would be great for the planet.

0:37:00.960 --> 0:37:02.680
<v Speaker 1>But we still have a lot of work to do

0:37:02.880 --> 0:37:06.200
<v Speaker 1>before any of this becomes practical, and my guess is

0:37:06.320 --> 0:37:08.319
<v Speaker 1>it's still going to take some decades to get there.

0:37:09.320 --> 0:37:12.320
<v Speaker 1>I should also mention that in China, scientists were able

0:37:12.400 --> 0:37:16.360
<v Speaker 1>to create a sustained nuclear fusion reaction and it lasted

0:37:16.400 --> 0:37:19.880
<v Speaker 1>for more than seventeen minutes, because another big challenge with

0:37:19.960 --> 0:37:23.080
<v Speaker 1>fusion here on Earth is not just getting the reaction started,

0:37:23.080 --> 0:37:25.960
<v Speaker 1>but it's keeping a reaction going so that you can

0:37:26.040 --> 0:37:29.320
<v Speaker 1>continue to release energy that you can harness and convert

0:37:29.360 --> 0:37:32.440
<v Speaker 1>into electricity. It doesn't do you a whole lot of

0:37:32.440 --> 0:37:35.880
<v Speaker 1>good if you do release a lot more energy than

0:37:35.920 --> 0:37:39.279
<v Speaker 1>you put in, but only lasts for an instant. That's

0:37:39.280 --> 0:37:41.600
<v Speaker 1>not really enough for us to make practical use out

0:37:41.600 --> 0:37:45.960
<v Speaker 1>of it. So this news from China about how they

0:37:46.000 --> 0:37:48.880
<v Speaker 1>created a superheated plasma and they were able to maintain

0:37:48.920 --> 0:37:52.279
<v Speaker 1>it for more than seventeen minutes, that is just as

0:37:52.320 --> 0:37:57.680
<v Speaker 1>exciting as this other announcement of the experiment that generated

0:37:57.800 --> 0:38:00.960
<v Speaker 1>or released more energy than was put in. So these

0:38:00.960 --> 0:38:03.680
<v Speaker 1>are all pieces that are necessary for us to have

0:38:04.160 --> 0:38:09.960
<v Speaker 1>a working nuclear fusion uh process in the future. We

0:38:10.040 --> 0:38:14.600
<v Speaker 1>also saw advancements in quantum computing in two. IBM recently

0:38:14.640 --> 0:38:19.480
<v Speaker 1>announced a four hundred thirty three cubit quantum computer called

0:38:19.520 --> 0:38:23.520
<v Speaker 1>the Osprey, which is the largest of its quantum computers

0:38:23.560 --> 0:38:27.200
<v Speaker 1>to date. So you might think, what does any of

0:38:27.239 --> 0:38:30.279
<v Speaker 1>that mean. Well, my guests, as you probably know, your

0:38:30.320 --> 0:38:35.480
<v Speaker 1>basic computers ultimately rely on bits or binary digits, and

0:38:35.880 --> 0:38:38.319
<v Speaker 1>this is what is used to run computations at the

0:38:38.400 --> 0:38:42.280
<v Speaker 1>machine level. So a bit can have one of two values.

0:38:42.360 --> 0:38:44.920
<v Speaker 1>It can either be a zero or it can be

0:38:45.000 --> 0:38:48.160
<v Speaker 1>a one. You can think of it like a light

0:38:48.239 --> 0:38:52.640
<v Speaker 1>switch which can be off or on. And all computations,

0:38:52.680 --> 0:38:55.760
<v Speaker 1>when you really break them down to their most basic level,

0:38:56.239 --> 0:39:00.040
<v Speaker 1>boiled down to mathematic operations on big old groups of

0:39:00.120 --> 0:39:05.520
<v Speaker 1>zeros and ones of bits. Well, a quantum computer relies

0:39:05.600 --> 0:39:12.040
<v Speaker 1>on quantum bits or cubits, and cubits have some odd behaviors, so,

0:39:12.120 --> 0:39:16.239
<v Speaker 1>for example, they can exist in superposition. This means a

0:39:16.360 --> 0:39:19.640
<v Speaker 1>cubit can effectively behave as though it is both a

0:39:19.760 --> 0:39:25.120
<v Speaker 1>zero and a one, and technically all values in between simultaneously.

0:39:26.200 --> 0:39:30.120
<v Speaker 1>This means that if you design a proper algorithm to

0:39:30.239 --> 0:39:33.680
<v Speaker 1>take advantage of the cubits, and you have enough cubits

0:39:33.719 --> 0:39:37.239
<v Speaker 1>to do it, you can tackle a subset of computational

0:39:37.320 --> 0:39:41.319
<v Speaker 1>problems that are very difficult for classical computers and then

0:39:41.320 --> 0:39:43.440
<v Speaker 1>solve them in a fraction of the time that you

0:39:43.440 --> 0:39:48.000
<v Speaker 1>would need otherwise, because essentially what the quantum computer can

0:39:48.000 --> 0:39:52.760
<v Speaker 1>do is run all the different variations of that problem

0:39:52.800 --> 0:39:56.520
<v Speaker 1>in parallel with one another, and then compare all the

0:39:56.560 --> 0:39:59.840
<v Speaker 1>outputs at the end and give you the one that

0:40:00.120 --> 0:40:02.640
<v Speaker 1>is most likely to be correct. We also talk more

0:40:02.640 --> 0:40:07.040
<v Speaker 1>about probabilities with quantum computers rather than uh like like

0:40:07.719 --> 0:40:13.520
<v Speaker 1>specific confirmed results. It does get way more complicated from there.

0:40:13.560 --> 0:40:16.799
<v Speaker 1>I mean, quantum computers are very delicate systems. It's very

0:40:16.840 --> 0:40:20.319
<v Speaker 1>easy for them to be upset, and then you end

0:40:20.400 --> 0:40:25.360
<v Speaker 1>up with a very pathetic classical computer system instead of

0:40:25.440 --> 0:40:30.080
<v Speaker 1>quantum computer system. It's important to remember that quantum computers

0:40:30.120 --> 0:40:33.399
<v Speaker 1>will not be good for all computational problems. Instead, they'll

0:40:33.440 --> 0:40:38.080
<v Speaker 1>be well suited for a specific group of computational problems.

0:40:38.680 --> 0:40:41.279
<v Speaker 1>One set of computational problems that is quite relevant to

0:40:41.400 --> 0:40:46.279
<v Speaker 1>us today relates to cryptography and encryption. So at a

0:40:46.360 --> 0:40:49.640
<v Speaker 1>very simple level, you can kind of think of encryption

0:40:49.960 --> 0:40:54.880
<v Speaker 1>involving two very very large prime numbers, like hundreds of

0:40:54.920 --> 0:40:58.400
<v Speaker 1>digits long, but their prime numbers. You take these two

0:40:58.960 --> 0:41:02.320
<v Speaker 1>different very big prime numbers and you multiply them together,

0:41:02.920 --> 0:41:06.359
<v Speaker 1>and then you get a product. And everyone can see

0:41:06.400 --> 0:41:10.440
<v Speaker 1>the product essentially, but only the people who hold the keys,

0:41:10.600 --> 0:41:13.759
<v Speaker 1>those being the prime numbers, know what was used to

0:41:13.960 --> 0:41:18.800
<v Speaker 1>make that product. So if you wanted to decrypt something

0:41:18.840 --> 0:41:23.680
<v Speaker 1>that was used using this particular encryption process, you would

0:41:23.680 --> 0:41:26.440
<v Speaker 1>first need to determine what were those two large prime

0:41:26.520 --> 0:41:28.480
<v Speaker 1>numbers that were used to make this product in the

0:41:28.480 --> 0:41:32.880
<v Speaker 1>first place. What were those two And this is the

0:41:32.920 --> 0:41:35.640
<v Speaker 1>type of problem that would make a classical computer take,

0:41:35.840 --> 0:41:38.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, thousands or maybe even tens of thousands of

0:41:38.320 --> 0:41:42.360
<v Speaker 1>years to solve, because it would go through every single

0:41:42.560 --> 0:41:46.479
<v Speaker 1>prime number in order to determine whether or not this

0:41:46.560 --> 0:41:50.640
<v Speaker 1>is the solution, and that would just take thousands of years.

0:41:50.840 --> 0:41:54.080
<v Speaker 1>But the quantum computer, with a suitable program written for

0:41:54.160 --> 0:41:57.200
<v Speaker 1>it and with enough cubits to run it could potentially

0:41:57.280 --> 0:42:00.080
<v Speaker 1>come back with a solution much much more quickly. And

0:42:00.120 --> 0:42:02.839
<v Speaker 1>this tells us that eventually quantum computers will make our

0:42:02.880 --> 0:42:07.520
<v Speaker 1>current encryption methods totally pointless. But the National Institute of

0:42:07.560 --> 0:42:12.040
<v Speaker 1>Standards and Technology has been reviewing proposed post quantum cryptography

0:42:12.080 --> 0:42:16.800
<v Speaker 1>methods in anticipation of tackling this problem before all secrets

0:42:16.840 --> 0:42:20.480
<v Speaker 1>are revealed, which is really exciting. Stuff like you started

0:42:20.520 --> 0:42:23.000
<v Speaker 1>again the kind of like a spy mentality. You're thinking,

0:42:23.520 --> 0:42:26.680
<v Speaker 1>it's a race against the clock. Eventually, we're going to

0:42:26.760 --> 0:42:31.120
<v Speaker 1>have quantum computer systems that are sufficiently powerful enough and

0:42:31.160 --> 0:42:35.280
<v Speaker 1>have a sufficient algorithm designed for it to reverse certain

0:42:35.280 --> 0:42:39.000
<v Speaker 1>types of encryption and make it a trivial task, which

0:42:39.040 --> 0:42:42.600
<v Speaker 1>means the stuff that we count upon as being encrypted,

0:42:42.640 --> 0:42:47.319
<v Speaker 1>like like like really sensitive information things like your your

0:42:47.680 --> 0:42:51.120
<v Speaker 1>your financial information, maybe your credit card numbers, that kind

0:42:51.120 --> 0:42:54.399
<v Speaker 1>of stuff could just be revealed totally because you could

0:42:54.400 --> 0:42:59.160
<v Speaker 1>reverse that encryption process using this methodology. So there is

0:42:59.200 --> 0:43:03.360
<v Speaker 1>a necessity to develop the next generation of cryptographic techniques

0:43:03.920 --> 0:43:08.640
<v Speaker 1>that will work both with classical computers and with quantum computers.

0:43:09.640 --> 0:43:13.040
<v Speaker 1>That's really important to say, because there was one proposed

0:43:13.160 --> 0:43:17.719
<v Speaker 1>post quantum cryptographic method that proved to be uh solvable

0:43:17.840 --> 0:43:23.880
<v Speaker 1>using classical computers, and that obviously doesn't solve the problem.

0:43:24.000 --> 0:43:28.600
<v Speaker 1>And in two we also saw some pretty amazing developments

0:43:28.640 --> 0:43:33.560
<v Speaker 1>in AI. I'm specifically thinking about how several different AI

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<v Speaker 1>image generating tools really emerged this year or became famous

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<v Speaker 1>this year, where you would type a prompt into a field,

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<v Speaker 1>and then an AI program generates an image based upon

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<v Speaker 1>your prompt, and you can tweak your prompt and put

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<v Speaker 1>in different adjectives or different guidelines and get new images

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<v Speaker 1>that continue to try and develop this idea you've had.

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<v Speaker 1>Then there's the story of chat GPT, the AI that

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<v Speaker 1>can compose responses to text queries and it can give

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<v Speaker 1>you a text answer. Both of these applications of a

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<v Speaker 1>I got a lot of attention and criticism this year.

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<v Speaker 1>For one thing, the capabilities of AI have improved tremendously

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<v Speaker 1>over recent years, but they still show that there are

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<v Speaker 1>some interesting and sometimes humorous or even disturbing gaps between

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<v Speaker 1>the way AI goes about doing something and the way

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<v Speaker 1>humans do. Some of the AI generated images I have

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<v Speaker 1>seen appear to have spawned from the fever fueled brain

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<v Speaker 1>of a mad genius. If you look at that and think, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>no human would ever do this. Others seem hopelessly misguided.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll look at an image and say, I can't even

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<v Speaker 1>tell you what words were used to prompt this image.

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<v Speaker 1>As for the text, the text can span between being helpful, concise,

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<v Speaker 1>and accurate to being very much inaccurate but presented in

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<v Speaker 1>such a way as to seem really confident, so it

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<v Speaker 1>might make the reader feel, oh, I can depend upon

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<v Speaker 1>this answer, when in fact you might not be able to,

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<v Speaker 1>and that serves as a potential problem. Now, these instances

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<v Speaker 1>of AI have launched multiple conversations in different contexts. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got the trustworthiness of AI? For example, how do

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<v Speaker 1>we know the answers we get are accurate, are correct,

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<v Speaker 1>are unbiased? And in a lot of cases we don't

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<v Speaker 1>know the answer to that because the AI isn't revealing

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<v Speaker 1>what sources it draws from in order to compose the

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<v Speaker 1>responses that we get, So without being able to check

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<v Speaker 1>the AI's work, we can't be certain that it's reliable.

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<v Speaker 1>And in fact, we have seen stories about how chat

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<v Speaker 1>GPT in particular could sometimes generate unreliable responses. Uh So

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<v Speaker 1>that is one of the concerns. But there are other

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<v Speaker 1>conversations we've heard too. We've heard debates about whether or

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<v Speaker 1>not AI is going to have a negative impact on

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<v Speaker 1>artistic efforts going forward. If you train an AI to

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<v Speaker 1>generate images that can mimic the style of working artists.

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<v Speaker 1>Does that not threaten those artists livelihoods? I mean, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're thinking, gosh, I really would love a sketch by

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<v Speaker 1>this one artist, but I can't afford their rates. But

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<v Speaker 1>I could just use this AI to create a a

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<v Speaker 1>mimic of what this artist would do based upon what

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<v Speaker 1>I want, and I don't have to pay anyone anything.

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<v Speaker 1>That definitely is a concern in the creative world. Then

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<v Speaker 1>there's also the concern that if an AI like chat

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<v Speaker 1>GPT could potentially create an essay on any given subject,

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<v Speaker 1>then what's going to stop students from cheating on their

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<v Speaker 1>homework by giving it to a I Now, I have

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<v Speaker 1>a solution to that, by the way, which is to

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<v Speaker 1>eliminate homework. Just get rid of it. I mean, I've

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen studies that show that homework doesn't do much

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<v Speaker 1>good anyway, and so it ends up being a big

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<v Speaker 1>time killer for both students and teachers who have to

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<v Speaker 1>grade the stuff. So yeah, you know, maybe maybe get

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<v Speaker 1>rid of the homework. Um, I don't really have a

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<v Speaker 1>dog in that fight. I don't have kids, and I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't been in school for a few decades, so I

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<v Speaker 1>don't really have to worry about that. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>have to generate essays every single week, because that's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of what these podcasts are, right, So hey, maybe I'll

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<v Speaker 1>do an episode that was completely written by AI, which

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I will do because one, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think AI will be able to produce an episode that

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<v Speaker 1>is in my style, and two, if it does, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>out of a job. So forget I said that. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's it. I am done looking act on the news

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<v Speaker 1>stories of two. There were other ones, obviously, there were

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<v Speaker 1>tons of things that happened in the tech world this

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<v Speaker 1>past year, but I wanted to tackle the really impactful

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<v Speaker 1>ones I had been keeping an eye on throughout the year.

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<v Speaker 1>And while there are others, I feel like six or however,

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<v Speaker 1>many episodes we've done that have been retrospectives on two

0:48:22.120 --> 0:48:26.880
<v Speaker 1>are plenty. So tomorrow's episode will be something else. What

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<v Speaker 1>Who knows. I haven't really decided yet. I think I

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<v Speaker 1>have an idea, but we will see. It will also

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<v Speaker 1>be the last episode of tech Stuff for at least

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<v Speaker 1>the last new one. Friday's episode will be a classic episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Then on Monday. The following Monday, we have a holiday

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<v Speaker 1>here at my heart, so it will be probably a

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<v Speaker 1>rerun of some sort I have not decided on that yet,

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<v Speaker 1>and then starting on Tuesday of next week, we'll be

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<v Speaker 1>back with all new episodes of tech Stuff, looking forward

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<v Speaker 1>to three and the brave new world we will be

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<v Speaker 1>in by then. I guess. I hope you are all well.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you are enjoying your time with friends and family.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish you the best. We'll be back tomorrow with

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<v Speaker 1>some more. If you have suggestions, you know how to

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<v Speaker 1>reach me. I'm running out of time, so I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to go through that whole spiel, but I will

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