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Speaker 1: We talked about when he was coaching, and he had

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Speaker 2: What's up? Everybody's LeVar Arrington here? Yes, it's another week.

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Speaker 2: It's another episode. We got my man Charles Davis coming on.

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Speaker 2: He's going to talk about growing up, what that was

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Speaker 2: name it. We talked about it. It's good in the game.

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Speaker 2: we got another great my man Charles Davis. Now we

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Speaker 2: can go through all the football accolades, No, but I've

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Speaker 2: something like I have one of my best memories because

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Speaker 2: How was that transitioning from being a player, chasing the

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Speaker 2: some point, right, what was your motivation to be so great?

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Speaker 1: First and foremost, I mean your story of meeting your namesake,

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Speaker 1: On that very quickly. When I was at Tennessee, Alex

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Speaker 1: I played at Tennessee. I don't get drafted, and back

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Speaker 2: Boy?

436
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 1: And just you know the man's gonna keep.

437
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 2: Me down right right? You just gotta be good.

438
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 1: Just found another way, another avenue and against mountaintop and

439
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 1: say look at me, Look how hard I'm working?

440
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 2: Right? Hey? Did it?

441
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:19,680
Speaker 1: Because people ask all the time, I'm sure you get

442
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 1: the same thing. Hey, how long does it take you

443
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 1: to prepare to do X, Y and Z? And I

444
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 1: bet you your answer is pretty similar to mine. Whatever

445
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 1: amount of time it takes.

446
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 2: As long as it takes, as long as it takes

447
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 2: is what I say. And that was all those years.

448
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:34,680
Speaker 2: Whatever it took.

449
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 1: It could be two in the morning, it could be

450
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 1: eleven at night. It could be whatever.

451
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,199
Speaker 2: But when the giant, that's what anything, that's with anything.

452
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 2: So let's let's talk about that. This National Football Foundation

453
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 2: podcast Good in the Game. Yes, I just traveled from

454
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 2: the East Coast back to the West coast last evening.

455
00:24:55,400 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 2: I get in to my home at eleven pm Pacific time,

456
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,119
Speaker 2: and I have a three am radio show that I

457
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 2: do and I do it five days a week. And

458
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 2: I went in the studio this morning and we're doing

459
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 2: our interview. What's good in the game and how it

460
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 2: represents good in the game. For me is what you

461
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,880
Speaker 2: just said. That work ethic, that motivation, that that inspiration.

462
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 2: It almost it fuels me to be able to say

463
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Speaker 2: that I be putting in my time, Like don't don't

464
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 2: call me an overnight success. Whatever it is that comes

465
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 2: my way, don't come at me with no oh it

466
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 2: just comes easy for him. Like I might make it

467
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,199
Speaker 2: look easy and I might not. I don't know, but

468
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 2: I'll come in. I'll come in on a on a

469
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 2: red eye flight from coming to do an appearance from

470
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 2: somewhere else and get an hour of sleep and get

471
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:02,919
Speaker 2: over there and even more what I need the prep

472
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 2: coming into the show, and I do it. I knock

473
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 2: it down. I learned that discipline from playing ball. My

474
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 2: discipline to always staying true to the mission and to

475
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:22,159
Speaker 2: the task. I'm a military kid and my mother's a

476
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 2: school teacher, so I come from a school teacher as well.

477
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 2: You get it. And our regiment, right, our regimented days

478
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 2: led me to have because a lot of times if

479
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,679
Speaker 2: you can't figure out how to do it playing the

480
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 2: game at that Orange Tea or at some of these

481
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:45,880
Speaker 2: other schools. That's really what separates a lot of guys

482
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 2: from the rest, is that there was some really talented guys.

483
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 2: They couldn't stay consistent to it, they couldn't stay motivated

484
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 2: or inspired by it. But the ones who really embraced

485
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,439
Speaker 2: what this game represents and what it brings to the table,

486
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 2: you see them flourish, You see them rise, and you

487
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,439
Speaker 2: see them have longevity. And it's not just in the sport.

488
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 2: They have longevity in life. They have success and what

489
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 2: they do in life, y'aw. Has the game helped mold you? Like?

490
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,679
Speaker 2: What in your mind? What? Like? How does when you

491
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 2: hear the word football, what does that make you feel

492
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 2: in terms of what you've been able to accomplish? You know, Lvar, it's.

493
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,360
Speaker 1: Such a great question because it encapsulates I think, who

494
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: we are because the game itself. We wanted to play

495
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 1: the game because we had we had fun doing it.

496
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 1: Then we had a taste of success doing it. Then

497
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 1: we wanted more of all of that. But we didn't

498
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,360
Speaker 1: know exactly how to do everything. So that meant there

499
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,880
Speaker 1: were people in our lives that we started to encounter

500
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 1: that saw our talents and wanted to help us make

501
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 1: it better. So that could have been a Pop Warner coach.

502
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: That could have been a middle school coach, That could

503
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 1: have been high school college pro. It could have been teachers,

504
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: because I had plenty of teachers that motivated me in

505
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: that way. I came from one of those towns that

506
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 1: you know, everyone knew everyone, but they weren't hesitant to

507
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 1: take you aside if they thought you weren't doing it

508
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 1: quite right, try and get you on the right path,

509
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 1: and by the way, would call your parents to tell them, hey,

510
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: by the way, I saw Charles, and I didn't think

511
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 1: that maybe, so I just wanted to let you know.

512
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 2: And instead of my parents.

513
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 1: Go don't you, I'll raise my child right. Thank you

514
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 1: appreciate that. Make sure we reinforce it here on this end,

515
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: like I got a one time in school my dad

516
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: and my dad you know, was on me, of course,

517
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 1: and I said, don't you want to hear my side?

518
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 1: And he said, well, one of my colleagues calls me

519
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 1: and tells me you did something wrong.

520
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 2: You don't have a side, right right, Hey, Charles, I

521
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 2: got paddled. I got I got paddled. And this how

522
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 2: old I am? Right?

523
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 3: Grade school, doctor Barber, doctor Barber, who was our principal,

524
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 3: called in, called in my mom and my dad at

525
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 3: and they took turns paddling me, but one got tiredagged in.

526
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 2: Come on, get it, get you something. I got paddled,

527
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 2: and you know what, and I deserved it. I observed

528
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 2: that paddling the things I did, I could have been

529
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 2: going down the wrong direction, but it was that guidance,

530
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 2: you know, it was that guidance. And listen, that's a

531
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 2: little old school. Yeah. People get a little nervous when

532
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 2: you hear, you know that, that corporal punishment type stuff.

533
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 2: They get a little nervous.

534
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: But think everyone, I tell people all you have to

535
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: put everything in the context of the time, all right.

536
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 2: Indeed, and you weren't.

537
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 1: Doing one getting paddled yeah, and and as as we

538
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 1: talked about these people who came into our lives, sometimes

539
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 1: they saw things and us we didn't know.

540
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 2: Was that and had to work to get it out.

541
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 1: You right, they're gonna get a I didn't want to

542
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: be in the high school choir. But missus b Agli,

543
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 1: who was a true force of nature and ran the

544
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: choir program at Newpaul's Ice schoo well, she came and

545
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: told me and said, listen, you're gonna be in my

546
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 1: choir because I need you to balance out. I need

547
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 1: tall people in the back of the whole thing.

548
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 2: She said. Now i've heard you sing.

549
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 1: She said, you can't sing a leg right, not good.

550
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 2: She goes, you're gonna learn.

551
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 1: You're gonna learn all the music, you can learn, all

552
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: the notes, You're gonna lip sync.

553
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 2: It were You're not gonna sing that. She said.

554
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 1: If you do, I'm gonna fail you. And I said,

555
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 1: but Missus bag I want to be in the choir.

556
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 1: She said, I didn't ask you if you wanted to be.

557
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: You're gonna be. And she said, I know the next

558
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 1: thing you're gonna say is, well, I gotta go see

559
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 1: my dad.

560
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 2: Go.

561
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: No, I've already told your father you're gonna be in

562
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: the choir. So this this is done.

563
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 2: You're good. You're good.

564
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 1: Learn everything, do everything, the whole deal, the full discipline thing.

565
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: This woman, Now, I couldn't sing, but you know something,

566
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: being around people who could and had different interests outside

567
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: of football was good for me. She knew like her daughter,

568
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: incredibly talented. She was a valedictorian of our class, Margaret

569
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: who could do everything, could sing like an angel, could

570
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: could you know, conjugate every verb coming. She was number

571
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: one in our class. She was the smartest thing going.

572
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: Being around people like her and the other people, now,

573
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: it's a different thing that's going on. That's what I

574
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: think we're talking about, because.

575
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 2: That went into our ball, yes, the winning for our lives.

576
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: It went into who was trying to get us to

577
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 1: different places, Mister mass and recognizing that I had a

578
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 1: talent for telling a story and writing and encouraging me

579
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,719
Speaker 1: to do a journal my sophomore year in high school,

580
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: that I would turn weakly to him, that he could

581
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: take a look at and help shape and do things

582
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: of that nature so I could get to where I am.

583
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: I could go on and on. I was so blessed

584
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: with the education, with the people who cared about me.

585
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 1: Because we always talk about coacheses coach you as hard

586
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: as they want to coach you if you know they

587
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: care about you. That's what I had, and I was

588
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: lucky that these people cared. I knew they cared about me,

589
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: and to this day, coach Doug Matthews at Tennessee, my

590
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 1: special teams coach, later our defensive coordinator at Tennessee. I

591
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 1: was out of school at that point. I do a

592
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: radio show for him each and every week. Well, you

593
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: know you were doing your show. He doesn't make a

594
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: show in Nashville. He called me this is what fifteen

595
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: twenty years ago. He's like, Davis, I'm starting this radio

596
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: show and you're going to do a segment for me.

597
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 1: He didn't have right, He said, you're going to do

598
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: a segment. By the way, is just getting started. So

599
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 1: I'm not paying you, but you're going to be on

600
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: every week. I'll call you and tell you what time.

601
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 1: And you know, you and I both whoever that Doug

602
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: Matthews was in your life. When they called you and

603
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 1: told you that, you said the same thing.

604
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 2: I said, yes, sir, yeah, oh I did radio for free. First,

605
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 2: you know, I first PST year and it was a

606
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 2: gospel station. I did a gospel station. They were saying, hey,

607
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 2: praise the lad was hour is over. I was lip

608
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 2: syncing it. Hey, praise hour was over. And then now

609
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 2: here you got one hour of sports with LeVar. As

610
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 2: soon as I finished, a reverend came on with the

611
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 2: time he bought and was preaching his sermons. So I

612
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 2: had my first sports show in between gospel songs and

613
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 2: a sermon for free. But you know what they said,

614
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 2: I could crack that mic.

615
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 1: That's that does are called reps. That's that's that's working

616
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: for your future. The only thing that would have made

617
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 1: that would make that story better is if somehow you

618
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: told me the reverend that came on after was Reverend.

619
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 2: Ike because you grew up with Reverend Ike. I don't

620
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 2: think it was Reverend Ike. I figure was. I'll think

621
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 2: it was Reverend Ike.

622
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: Because because that was the character Richard Pryor you had

623
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: the car before him, Reverend Billy Sunday. You know, come on,

624
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 1: you take them back, they take their fifteen cents and

625
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 1: putting an envelope and mail it to them.

626
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 2: Anyway. You're good, You're good. That's this is the camaraderie.

627
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 2: It's the brotherhood that I wanted to bring to the

628
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:25,320
Speaker 2: show that the National Football Foundation has wanted to bring

629
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 2: to the light, is just understanding what our camaraderie is like,

630
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,800
Speaker 2: what's good in the game is what we represent and

631
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 2: have an ability to show people our interaction, you know,

632
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 2: and people see us in a professional capacity so often,

633
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,399
Speaker 2: and they they don't always get an opportunity to see

634
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 2: us interact with one another on on that you know,

635
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 2: even level, you know, in in the locker room level

636
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 2: and the when we see each other level, and so

637
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,280
Speaker 2: to have the opportunity to kind of lead the way

638
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 2: on on that is quite an honor. I talked to

639
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 2: Archie Archie Griffin for the first episode and so having

640
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 2: so having excellent by the way, and Archie, those people

641
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 2: when we're standing on the shoulders of.

642
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: It, Pioneer per playing tail first man that's still the

643
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: only man when he has been back to back years.

644
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 2: That's right. Yeah, special man. I mean this this show

645
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 2: has been all about talking to special men that have

646
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 2: played our sport and have been a part of our sport.

647
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 2: Let's end it off with this. What would your advice

648
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 2: be when you're talking about how the game has has

649
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:50,720
Speaker 2: played a part in your life. To young aspiring guys

650
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 2: that that will see this video and they have hopes

651
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 2: and they have dreams, and they're aspiring to be the

652
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Speaker 2: things that they want to be, and a lot of

653
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 2: times when they see stuff like our stuff, it's specific

654
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Speaker 2: to football. What would your advice be to those those

655
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:14,399
Speaker 2: people that see this video and know the things that

656
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 2: you've accomplished and know what you represent and that connection

657
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 2: to the game to where you are now, Lvar, I

658
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,280
Speaker 2: think it's pretty simple.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what is out there that you want

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00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 1: to achieve and in what field is your chosen field

661
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: where your passion lies. The same things work no matter what.

662
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: And we come from the football background. So the perseverance,

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00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 1: the the the study, the understanding, the dedication, the fighting

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Speaker 1: through things to have your back against the wall and

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Speaker 1: continue to.

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00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 2: Fight and punch to do well.

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00:36:55,880 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: And then maybe someone supersedes you, or maybe you take

668
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 1: a setback and you got to decide whether you're gonna

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00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: get off the ground and keep punching or you're gonna

670
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: just go ahead and lay there. You know, all the

671
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,879
Speaker 1: things we went through, all the things that we've done

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00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: because we went through.

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Speaker 2: It with other people.

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Speaker 1: And you mentioned earlier in this thing there were other

675
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: people that may have been better than us, that may

676
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,800
Speaker 1: have been luger, that didn't make it for various reasons

677
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: because they didn't have what it took to do the

678
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 1: fight each and every day to con continue to get

679
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: up and go all those things. And I hope everybody

680
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 1: is who's listening to us, is not listening to us,

681
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,439
Speaker 1: say well, look at us, we did all the We're

682
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: not talking about that. What we're talking about is the

683
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:46,280
Speaker 1: road may not be paved along the way. They're gonna

684
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 1: be potholes, bumps, you know, they're gonna be switched backs,

685
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: they're gonna be jags off of it. That Are you

686
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 1: going to persevere in pursuit of what you really want?

687
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,359
Speaker 1: How long does it take to get the job done?

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00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 2: I don't know. As long as it's going to take, I'm.

689
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 1: Gonna do I'm gonna do it until the job is done, done, done.

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00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 2: Well, done, done, well done, directly well.

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00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:15,359
Speaker 1: And here's right our profession, you coming off red eye,

692
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: you prepping, you doing all that. There's no accident that

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Speaker 1: you're able to do it and maintain and sustain but

694
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: at the same time, Jack Nicholson in the movie Hafa

695
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 1: had the great expression all the time, Oh oh that's

696
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 1: a problem. Yeah, tell that to the working man right

697
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: now it's men and women. Tell that to the working person.

698
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:42,399
Speaker 1: Should be the absolutely absolutely doing it, because let's face

699
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 1: a LeVar, we're in the candy store doing what we

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00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: get to. We get to talk about the things that

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00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 1: we love and look at us. We're sitting in comfortable surroundings,

702
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: in a great environment, and we get to do that.

703
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: And you know, people in our lives, okay, what they're

704
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: going through every day to try and make it work.

705
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: That they wake up and before their feet hit the ground,

706
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: they're thinking, this day is gonna be a hard day.

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Speaker 2: One of my great partners.

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00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: In broadcast at Gush Johnson, the great Gus Johnson, he

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00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,399
Speaker 1: looked at me every now and then and we were

710
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 1: talking about working and prepping and all that. He look

711
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 1: at me and go, yo, man, he goes, we're not

712
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 1: breaking rocks, man, right like the flintstone's working at the quarry.

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00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,919
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, people like that.

714
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: But whatever your passion is, whatever you're pursuing, whatever you're chasing,

715
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: find out what it takes to get there, chart your path.

716
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: Find the people who can give you the benefits of

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00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: their wisdom, but don't expect them to just place you

718
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: in things. They're gonna give you the benefits of what

719
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: they've done and how they've gotten there. You have to

720
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 1: find how it works for you, how it shapes for you,

721
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: and use it that way. Like you and I talked

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00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 1: about the boards. Remember what I told you, This is

723
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 1: how I do it right. But you may find a

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00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: different system that we're different.

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Speaker 2: Flow and I did have my variations.

726
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 1: I did you do that, but because structure, you have

727
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 1: to do it in your manner, otherwise just a carbon copy.

728
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 2: But you gave me the structure. That structure is what

729
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 2: I needed.

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00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 1: It has to be the law and way for it

731
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Speaker 1: to be done right. But there's a background, there's a base.

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00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: Use those things and then take it and be trusted.

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Speaker 2: Background and base.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but taking trusted it. And I've done that with

735
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 1: so many people in so many ways. I listened to them.

736
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 1: I talked to them. Just this summer, I talked to

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00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 1: a couple of people about how My question was how

738
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: did you achieve greatness? One of them was in business,

739
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: another one is it was is an expert in environmental

740
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: the environmental world, how did you do it? Neither one

741
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:58,439
Speaker 1: of them in sports. I wanted to know what they did,

742
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: what path they took, took the notes from it, and

743
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 1: I carried around with me and I refer to their

744
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: notes from This had nothing to do with sports, but

745
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 1: it had to do with work ethic, being smart about

746
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: what you're doing, thirst for knowledge, all those things people

747
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: shared their time with me.

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00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:19,320
Speaker 2: That's I mean, that's ultimately, like you said, humble yourself

749
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,879
Speaker 2: to learn the things you don't know, open yourself up

750
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 2: to be vulnerable to other people that have been where

751
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 2: you're trying to go. And that's I mean, that's a

752
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 2: great message. Work ethic, you know, the mindset, the belief,

753
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 2: because you got to believe you could be what it

754
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 2: is you're going to be. You know, you gotta believe it.

755
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 2: And so for me, like just listening to what you're saying, man,

756
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 2: super you get you got me overly inspired all over again.

757
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 2: Right now, I'm not gonna hold you anymore, but I

758
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,839
Speaker 2: tell you what it's. It's I love the fact that

759
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 2: I was able to do this interview with you because

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00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 2: I think you're one of our our mega megastars in

761
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 2: our community. You represent us so well and just have

762
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 2: an opportunity to give people an opportunity to hear you.

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00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 2: You know, that's that's that's golden, that's that's real valuable.

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Speaker 2: This will be a real valuable, uh you know episode

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00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 2: that that we knocked down. So I appreciate you coming on,

766
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 2: making the time to come on and drop drop some

767
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 2: knowledge on on all of us and tell us a

768
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 2: little bit open, you know, pull the curtain back a

769
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 2: little bit on on your life as it applies to

770
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 2: you know, the professional aspect of it, and how you

771
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,919
Speaker 2: were brought up with your family. It's an amazing deal.

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00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 2: So we appreciate you coming on. Charles now, thank you

773
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:37,399
Speaker 2: very much.

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Speaker 1: And as I told you at the beginning, and honor

775
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: to be on with you to watch you have the

776
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 1: success you've had and then as you wanted to achieve

777
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 1: other successes, did not rely on the past success to

778
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 1: say well I should be successful this right away? Make

779
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,280
Speaker 1: me great, hey, put me right in this. As you mentioned,

780
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 1: you're doing stuff for free and learning your craft and

781
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 1: learning how to do it. To me, that's the thing

782
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 1: people always have to have. I don't care where you

783
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,720
Speaker 1: had your success before. If you're into a different world,

784
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: don't expect it to just be right away. You're that

785
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: person to get there. LaVar Arrington is a great example

786
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 1: of how that, how that should be done and do

787
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: it right.

788
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,839
Speaker 2: It's right there in front of you. It's absolutely so.

789
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: I got it from my dad, watched him every day.

790
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,839
Speaker 1: Also get it from my mom who used to tell

791
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:26,760
Speaker 1: me all the time, son, if you get in trouble.

792
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 2: I'm not one of those mothers that says, wait till

793
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 2: your father gets home. Better, We're gonna handle it. Father

794
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 2: gets home to pull me off of you.

795
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:38,720
Speaker 1: Indeed, indeed, I got that discipline just as you had,

796
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 1: from people who loved it, loved me and cared.

797
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 2: And wanted to make sure you did it the right way.

798
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 2: I think we had similar parents. You the man bro.

799
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 2: Everybody asks Charles Davis, make sure you check them out.

800
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 2: If you're watching NFL games, you can catch him on CBS,

801
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 2: and I mean he he calls the well of a game.

802
00:43:56,719 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 2: You also make parentss on NFL network as well, and

803
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 2: so you can catch him in his commentary on there. Also.

804
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 2: He is a man of true knowledge and a true gentleman.

805
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 2: On top of all of that, man, appreciate you coming on.

806
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 2: This is good in the game. That is Charles Davis.

807
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 2: Make sure you check out National Football Foundation on the

808
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 2: social media handles and all of those different things it's at,

809
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 2: and it'll pop up on you National Football Foundation. You

810
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 2: can catch me on King of the Mammals by the way,

811
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Speaker 2: or LeVar Arrington on the X. Make sure y'all stay

812
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 2: tuned and we'll have another great episode coming your way.

813
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 2: Till next time, we'll talk to you. National Football Foundation,

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00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 2: Good in the game. We'll check you out