1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. Hello, 4 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:26,639 Speaker 1: welcome back to the show. My name is Matt, my 5 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: name is Noah. They call me pin. You are you? 6 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: We hope still uh and we're glad to hear from you. 7 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: Whether this is your first time listening to this show 8 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: or whether this is your millionth time, which would be 9 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: weird because we're not quite at a million episodes. Regardless, 10 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to stuff they don't want you to know. Calendars 11 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: are relatively arbitrary things, and in the calendar regime under 12 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: which we live in this era, we are approaching the 13 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: end of the year, the penultimate month, the eleventh of twelve, 14 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: and what a year it's been. Yeah, so let's talk 15 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: about let's let's you know what. I know. Probably people 16 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: have already heard some of this, but you haven't heard 17 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: much about it. Today. We're talking about the Dakota Access pipeline, 18 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: and you've probably seen it pop up on your news feed, right. 19 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: You've probably heard somebody mentioned it in a sound bite 20 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: or dapple maybe that's been used. The acronym for to 21 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,559 Speaker 1: go to Access Pipeline or perhaps Standing Rock. I thought 22 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: Dapple was like the new Twitter. It might be. It's 23 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: where someone who has a really nice butt dabs. It's 24 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: like a dapple bottom. Anything to get the spirits up. So, uh, 25 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: what is the Dakota Access Pipeline or Dapple. It's a 26 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: one one hundred and thirty four mile long to one thousand, 27 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: one d and seventy two mile long underground oil pipeline 28 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: project inside the US. Now you heard that those There 29 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: are several numbers there, and that's because depending on the source, uh, 30 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 1: you'll see different numbers. The pipeline is being planned by 31 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: a company called Dakota Access. They're a limited liability corporation. 32 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: They're also a subsidiary of a place called Energy Transfer Partners. 33 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: This pipeline will begin in the Bucking oil fields, which 34 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: are located in the northwestern part of North Dakota and 35 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: the southeast as the crow flies pretty much a straight 36 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: line southeast through South Dakota through Iowa all the way 37 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: to Patuca, Illinois or Protoca, Illinois, where there's an oil 38 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: tank farm. This is all gonna be happening on January one. 39 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: That's when the pipeline is due to be delivered a 40 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: k A completed. As of people were projecting that the 41 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 1: pipe would carry in excess of four hundred and fifty 42 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: thousand barrels of oil per day, and this is hydro 43 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: fract crude oil YEP, fracking went to the F word 44 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: already this early. The company estimates the pipeline is gonna 45 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: be pretty expensive three point seven billion dollars and a 46 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: lot of that is going to go to pay landowners 47 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: who are getting a pipe run through there their private property. 48 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: You're having it forcibly purchased from them. And they think 49 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: it will create jobs to probably about forty which doesn't 50 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: seem like that many for a four state pipeline, but 51 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: that's the that's that's the gist of it. Will have 52 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: a lot of temporary jobs that are created. Also, here's 53 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: the deal. Though this is the subject of massive controversy. 54 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: Native tribal organizations and environmentalist farmers in different states are 55 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: warning that this pipeline will eradicate history, that it could 56 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: rain devastation on the local water and soil resources, and 57 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 1: supporters of the pipeline argue it's necessary because it will 58 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: help the US is chase for energy and dependence, and 59 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: just for everyone who is curious about the petro dollar, 60 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: energy and dependence, oil and the cs are messed up 61 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: things that it makes humans do in this society. Do 62 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: visit stuff they'll want you know dot com and check 63 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: out our podcasts and videos on the petro dollar, on 64 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 1: oil wars and things of that nature. So the big 65 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 1: flashpoint for both the opponents and the people in support 66 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: of the pipeline UM all centers around a place called 67 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: the Standing Rock Reservation. UM. There are protests in other 68 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: states as well, including South Dakota, Iowa, Illinois. Way. But then, 69 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 1: as we are wont to do, shall we give the facts? Yes, 70 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: here are the facts. The other stuff that we were 71 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: talking about earlier also factual. I just kind of messed 72 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: up the notes a little. So here the fact Standing 73 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: Rock Reservation, as you mentioned NOL, it has a it 74 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: has a prominent place in history. It is the sixth 75 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: largest reservation in the United States in terms of land area. 76 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: That includes all of Sioux County, North Dakota, of course 77 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: in County South Dakota, little pieces of Dewey and Zibat 78 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: Counties in South Dakota, and the reservation has a land 79 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 1: area about nine thousand, two and fifty one ish square kilometers, 80 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: with so a little bit under three point six thousand 81 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: square miles and as a population of eight thousand or 82 00:05:54,960 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: fifty as of the two thousand census, it officially became no. 83 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: These reservations were established in the Agreement of eighteen seventy seven. 84 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 1: They date back aways. There's also the location where Sitting Bull, 85 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: the famous elder leader Sitting Bull had had his followers 86 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: performing what is called the Ghost stance, which we can 87 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 1: go into in a different podcast, but it's an important 88 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: piece of the history of this country, especially the history 89 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: that is often not taught to people for one reason 90 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 1: or another. That's where this has taken place, and the 91 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: pipeline is what's being built. Here's where it gets crazy. 92 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: This pipeline isn't just the subject of controversy. It's the 93 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: subject of massive protests that are spanning the four states 94 00:06:54,640 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: we mentioned the dakotas in Iowa and Illinois, and spanning 95 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: the internet, social media, online forums, different distribution platforms. And 96 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: while it may seem a flash in the pan to 97 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: the casual observer, it turns out these pipeline protests date 98 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: back quite a ways. Yeah, back in when the pipeline 99 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: was first proposed or when it was discussed to be 100 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:31,119 Speaker 1: a project that would be built, environmental activists began sending 101 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: up petitions. UH. They were sent to Iowa Governor Terry Brandstead. 102 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: UH they asked him to sign a state executive order 103 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: to straight up stop the proposed pipeline construction. Then in 104 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: March and April of sixteen, the EPA, the Environmental Protection 105 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: Agency UM, the Department of Interior, and the Advisory Council 106 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: on Historic Preservation came to the Army Corps of Engineers 107 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: and asked them to conduct a environmental impact assessment and 108 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: then issue an environmental impact statement UM. And then in 109 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: following that, in April, a Standing Rock Sue elder established 110 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: a camp as a center for the cultural preservation and 111 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: spiritual resistance to the pipeline. And then over the summer 112 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: of the camp grew, UM, it grew and grew thousands 113 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: of people. Yeah, and that elder is La Donna brave 114 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: Bull alert. I believe who was Standing Rocks Historic Preservation 115 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:29,559 Speaker 1: officer or one of them. So in July, the Army 116 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: Corps of Engineers approved the water crossing permits for the 117 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: pipeline under what's called a fast track option, which you've 118 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 1: probably heard before in pipeline Conversations in construction of the 119 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 1: disputed section of the pipeline continued. So in that same month, 120 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: in July, a group called Respect Our Water with a Z. 121 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: It's a group of Native American youths. They ran all 122 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: the way from Standing Rock to Washington, d C. To 123 00:08:56,520 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: raise awareness of the threat to drinking water, now just 124 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: to their local community, but to everyone who relies on 125 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 1: the Missouri and Mississippi rivers for drinking water or irrigation. 126 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: They have more than one thousand petition signatures that they 127 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: attempted unsuccessfully to deliver to the White House. Additionally, the 128 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: Standing Rock su Tribe they filed a lawsuit against the 129 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: Army Corps of Engineers UH. They were accusing them of 130 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: violating the National Historic Preservation Act and several other laws. 131 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: They were arguing that quote the Core effectively wrote off 132 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: the tribe's concerns and ignored the pipeline's impacts too sacred 133 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: sites and culturally important landscapes and not casually culturally important. No, 134 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: not like the world's biggest frying pan or something. In 135 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: late October, since we are a family show. Let's describe 136 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,599 Speaker 1: it this way. Late October, the s hit the f 137 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: and armed soldiers in police with riot gear and military 138 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: equipment cleared an encampment that was directly in the proposed 139 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: pipe bloods path. But why why are these people protesting? 140 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 1: So Many Sux tribes say that the pipeline is a 141 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: threat to their environmental and economic well being UM and 142 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: that it would actually cause significant damage and possibly even 143 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: destroy some of their sacred sites. UM. Protests at pipeline 144 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: construction sites in North Dakota started in twenty sixteen in 145 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: spring and drew Indigenous people calling themselves water protectors, which 146 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: I think is a term that many of you may 147 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: have heard, UM some of the Democracy Now coverage of that. 148 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: The people are kind of dubbing themselves as water protectors 149 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: and also the term land defenders from throughout North America 150 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: and many other supporters. And they created the largest gathering 151 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: of Native American tribes in the past hundred years of 152 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: American history, which is fascinating and I think speaks to them, 153 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: you know, severity of the situation as they see it. Yeah, 154 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: And over four d people have been arrested. Some of 155 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: these were planned arrest ME mean that people went into 156 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: this situation intending to make it inevitable that law enforcement 157 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: would arrest them. And this is the civil disobedience stuff 158 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: you hear about, like people changing themselves to in this 159 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: case heavy machinery. Yeah, either forcibly take me off of 160 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: this thing, or you won't be able to get any 161 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: work done. And let's look at some of the concerns 162 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: that these people have. We mentioned these sacred sites, but 163 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 1: let's explore this a little bit. There are locations with 164 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 1: great historical religious significance. According to Standing Rocks historic preservation 165 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 1: officer who we mentioned earlier, La Donna Brave Bowl Alert 166 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: with the quote, of the three and eighty archaeological sites 167 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 1: that face desecration along the entire pipeline route from North 168 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,559 Speaker 1: Dakota to Illinois, twenty six of them are right here 169 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: at the confluence of these two rivers. It is an 170 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: historic trading ground, a place held secret not only by 171 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: the Sioux nations, but also by the Arikara, the Mandan, 172 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 1: and the Northern Cheyenne. The US government is wiping out 173 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 1: our most important cultural and spiritual areas, and as it 174 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: erases our footprint from the world, it erases us as 175 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: a people. And if we just pause here while I 176 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: know it may seem easy for some, especially people who 177 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: are not, you know, affiliated in any way with Native 178 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: American populations, well, it might seem easy for people to 179 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: dismiss this as you know, um a nomenclature claim or 180 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: change or something like that. This isn't really an eggs 181 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: making omelet situation. This comes from a group of people 182 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: who were vilified, suppressed, treated like absolute garbage, uh for 183 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: centuries by European by by European populations, you know. And 184 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:54,199 Speaker 1: in many ways this could be seen as an extension 185 00:12:54,320 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: of people driven to reservations and then forced to live 186 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: within these areas under very very horrific conditions at times, 187 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: and now having other pieces of of what what remained 188 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,719 Speaker 1: being slowly taken away. Of course, you can see this 189 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: could be considered an existential threat to the culture. And 190 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: then there's the there's the more physical threat of pollution. Yes, 191 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: there's a very real threat of water and soil contamination. 192 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: According to the Pipeline and Hazardous Material Safety Administration or 193 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: p h m s A. That's a sexy acronym. I'm 194 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 1: being sarcastic because well, according to them, there have been 195 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: over three thousand, three hundred incidents of leaks and ruptures 196 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:53,439 Speaker 1: at oil and gas pipelines since two thousand ten. That 197 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: seems like a lot. And if you want to that's 198 00:13:56,120 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: according to them via Time dot Com. And if you 199 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: go to Wikipedia and there a couple other national transportation 200 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: government websites you can look at and you can see 201 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: reports of all of these leaks. And even if you 202 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: just go back to let's say the start of the 203 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 1: twenty one century and two thousand, you can see the 204 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: tens of thousands of leaks and just terrible things going 205 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: into the environment that shouldn't be there. And we have 206 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: a recent, a very recent example in the Colonial Pipeline. 207 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: Perhaps you have heard of this on your local news 208 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: if you live in the southeast, or you know, maybe 209 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: you've heard it somewhere else or read it on Reddit. 210 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: But there was an explosion there on October thirty one, 211 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: and it killed one person and injured five others. But 212 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: this comes just a month after there was a massive 213 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: pipeline leak there where three hundred and forty thousand gallons 214 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: of gasoline leaked to all over central Alabama and it 215 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: forced the line to shut down for twelve days. And 216 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: it caused states of emergency to be declared by governors 217 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: in six states, and gas prices rose throughout the entire 218 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: region and it was very intense. You could even see 219 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: it here in Atlanta. I don't know if you guys 220 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: noticed that premium and plus gasoline was unavailable for a while, 221 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: more so in like a gut stuff for example, where 222 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: my mom lives, and maybe a smaller area she couldn't find. 223 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: Y like it was a big deal. I didn't have 224 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: any problems here, but it's definitely something that you know, 225 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: affected people's day to day lives. Well, yeah, and the 226 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: bigger impact is that amount of oil spilling out into 227 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: natural areas where oil shouldn't be on the surface. Since 228 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: two thousand and six, the company that runs Colonial Pipeline, 229 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: they have reported one hundred and seventy eight spills and 230 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: other incidents that released combined one hundred and ninety three 231 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: thousand gallons of hazards liquids and caused thirty nine million 232 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: dollars in property damage. And I mean, as we know, 233 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: there are definitely regulations in place to keep things like 234 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: this from happening, but as we also know, things like 235 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: this do happen and It's one thing for a company 236 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 1: to be able to make it good over time, you know, 237 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: with money, but in the short term it can totally 238 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: ruin people's lives. I mean, look at what happened with 239 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: Deepwater Horizon and how long it took for those people 240 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: to be made whole, you know. So it's one thing 241 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: to say, oh, trust us, everything will be fine. Oh no, 242 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: we made a mistake, will make it right. But the 243 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: mechanisms in place to make it right do not work 244 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: particularly fast or well, let's be completely honest when you 245 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: say they don't work particularly fast, I would add, or 246 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: particularly well. There is a established history of private oil 247 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: companies covering up knowledge that they knew for decades beforehand 248 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: regarding risk to the environment. War two local communities, and 249 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:06,439 Speaker 1: there's also just a mountain of stuff indicating that on 250 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: local state, at local and state levels at least the 251 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 1: authorities have colluded in covering up reports of oil spills. 252 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 1: And this is throughout the world in South America, Latin America, 253 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: North America. Those are the three that I know cases 254 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: of best, but it occurs throughout the world, and and 255 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: it could be anything from uh, someone who is building 256 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: let's say a wall or having to dig and perhaps 257 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: the pipeline isn't uh labeled correctly, or a map is 258 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: out of date or something to this effect, and you 259 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 1: just hit it and there's a spillops. Or you know, 260 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: you have a pipeline that's been there for years and 261 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: years and it's aging, and you know it gives way 262 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,360 Speaker 1: right there. There are a ton of things that these 263 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: companies have to try and think about, and they do 264 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 1: think about, and they work really hard to make sure 265 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:03,199 Speaker 1: it's don't happen. It's just it's nearly impossible to not 266 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: have a leak at some point. Also, I want to 267 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 1: I want to assure you, ladies and gentlemen, these are 268 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: not rumors. Fracking is a technique proven to have massive 269 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: potential for danger, which is essentially you know what I'm 270 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 1: summing up, but what we're seeing earlier. You can find 271 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: more information about it on some of our other podcast 272 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: our earlier work, as well as the work of our 273 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: friends over at Stuff. You should know they have a 274 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: great episode about fracking. I know a lot of people 275 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: sometimes have a gut reaction when we're talking about preserving 276 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 1: the environment. People can say, oh, I don't want to 277 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: hear this, or We're putting a couple of amphibians and 278 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: salmon and crap in front of real quality of life 279 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: for human people, right like uh like jobs, he ability 280 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: put food on the table. That is the That is 281 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: not what we were talking about today. This isn't some 282 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 1: touchy feely hippie hugs and sunshine rolling environmental idealism bulls. 283 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 1: We're talking about stuff that turns the water flammable, the 284 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: poisons farmland, and can even create earthquakes. Yeah, fracking can 285 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: induce earthquakes, not as the science isn't conclusive yet, but 286 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: there's a pretty shocking correlation between widespread fracking and earthquakes. 287 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: And just to be clear here, that fracking is occurring 288 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: in North Dakota in the shale areas right up in 289 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:31,880 Speaker 1: north at the I guess where the pipeline begins. That's 290 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: where all those that bad stuff is happening. Then the 291 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: gas itself is then moving down the pipeline and those 292 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: are you know, those are also hazardous materials. And at 293 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: the risk of sounding you know, like a happy hippie 294 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: sunshine kid, it's just another example of manipulating the earth 295 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 1: in ways that we don't fully understand. What the outcome 296 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 1: will be it's sort of more of like a short, 297 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 1: short term we need this, We're gonna take this, but 298 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: you know, long term consequences be damned. Despite their best 299 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 1: efforts in research. Yeah, it's still there's still out there. 300 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,360 Speaker 1: And of course, is it possible that the technology will 301 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: improve to the point that it is not as risky, Yeah, 302 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 1: it's possible. Is it possible that the price of fossil 303 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,199 Speaker 1: fuels will lower to the point where it is no 304 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 1: longer profitable to pursue this kind of shell technology, Yeah, 305 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: it's possible. Uh. Is it also possible that alternative energy 306 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 1: will finally have the breakthrough everybody once like solar power, safe, 307 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: nuclear power, wind power, geothermal power, let me just name 308 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:47,120 Speaker 1: them all, high hydropower, hydromancy. Sorry, that's water related magic, 309 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: but it may as well be at this point because 310 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: it's just not there. The world, whether you like it 311 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 1: or not, runs on oil at this point. Hemp power, 312 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 1: hemp power. Yeah, the wave check ology, that's really cool. Yeah, 313 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: and it's look, we made the power of love, the 314 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: power to move you with music, soul power. Hey guys, 315 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: it's four twenty right now. Oh yeah, I mean it's 316 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: time for a break and we're back. Let's get into 317 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: a little bit of nitty gritty here. So the Department 318 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: of Interior agreed with these statements about fracking, and we 319 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:36,400 Speaker 1: have a quote from their earlier report goes as follows. 320 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 1: The routing of a twelve to thirty in crude oil 321 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:43,360 Speaker 1: pipeline in close proximity to and upstream of the reservation 322 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 1: is of serious concern to the Department when establishing the 323 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: Standing Rock Sioux Tribes permanent homeland, the US reserved waters 324 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 1: of sufficient quality and quantity to serve the purposes of 325 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,679 Speaker 1: the reservation. The Department holds more than eight hundred thousand 326 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: acres of land in trust for the tribe that could 327 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: be impacted by a leak or a spill. Further, a 328 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: spill could impact the waters that the tribe and individual 329 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: tribal members residing in that area rely upon for drinking 330 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 1: and other purposes. The emphasis here is mine. We believe 331 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 1: that if the pipeline's current route along the edge of 332 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: the reservation remains an option, the potential impact on trust 333 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: resources in this particular situation necessitates full analysis and disclosure 334 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: of potential impacts through the preparation of Again, that environmental 335 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: impact statement. Um, ben, it wasn't very an issue of 336 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:38,360 Speaker 1: an easement here. Is this something that we can discuss. 337 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: I think they were contesting that there was. Okay, so yeah, 338 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 1: you're absolutely right. Now there's uh, what some like call 339 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: a little more conservative argument against the pipeline here too. 340 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: A lot of farmers are concerned about the state's ability 341 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:57,239 Speaker 1: to condemn private land for another private entities use. And 342 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: this is something we've heard about before. Imminent domain essentially 343 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: a k a. The reason that here in the US, 344 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: other other entities can take several feet off a homeowner's 345 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: front guard to for instance, um in big in the road. 346 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,199 Speaker 1: I just wanted to say, I'm big in too, you know, 347 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 1: Widen the road, make it more bigly. Yeah, yeah, exactly, 348 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: Please don't make it more bigly. And uh And as 349 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: preposterous as it sounds, it's completely possible for someone who 350 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: lives next to an expanding road to lose more and 351 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: more and more of their property each time there's construction. Look, 352 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 1: we don't talk about it much here in the US, 353 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: but the ability for someone to own land is awesome 354 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: and amazing, and it doesn't happen in a lot of 355 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: other places. In some places, the government owns everything and 356 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 1: all you can do is lease land for a long 357 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 1: amount of time. In other places, in parts of the 358 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: US like this, it impossible for most people to ever 359 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 1: have enough money to buy something, you know what I mean. 360 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: Imagine trying to buy a house in London Vancouver is 361 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 1: really difficult. And those are you know, those are relatively 362 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: similar places culturally to hear. But the argument with them 363 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:23,199 Speaker 1: in a domain then is this idea like do I 364 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 1: really own this thing that I bought or is it 365 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: just a situation where we all pretend it's mine until 366 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: Uncle Sam comes and initially says, hey, we'll give you 367 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: this much for it, and you say, no, it's not 368 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 1: worth that much, and they're like, all right, we'll give 369 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 1: you a little more and you say no, I just 370 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: don't want to sell it, and they say, okay, well 371 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 1: we're gonna legally make you give it to us. If 372 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 1: anyone else did that, that would be a crime. Is 373 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: im in a domain necessary in many cases? Yeah, you 374 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,959 Speaker 1: can make a strong argument that it is. That's how 375 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 1: cities work. We have to have things like roads and 376 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: and wiring for electricity and telephone power and utilities and stuff. 377 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: But how far does that go, how slippery is that slope. 378 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 1: That's a that's a very big concern, you know. So 379 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 1: we've got these arguments, right. We also see that there 380 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 1: have been similar protests in it, like in rough rough terms, 381 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 1: so and there have been protests of roughly similar nature 382 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: in the past. Unfortunately, it very very rarely ends well. 383 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: You can look at as Matt noticed noted, South America, 384 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:45,679 Speaker 1: Central America especially, and whenever there is a multinational patroleum 385 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 1: company involved, there's a possibility that they can simply outperform 386 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: the countries rule of law, especially if it's vulnerable to corruption. 387 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:05,679 Speaker 1: So the most conspiratorial aspect of this situation the they 388 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: in today's episode of stuff they don't want you to know, 389 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: According to many people, would be the mainstream media. And 390 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,919 Speaker 1: I'm starting to hate that phrase more and more. The 391 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,919 Speaker 1: mainstream media seems kind of like a false psychotomy. We 392 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: live in a time where everybody can just be an 393 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 1: Internet connection in a little bit of hardware away from 394 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: jumping on and creating their own source of information, however 395 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 1: pure or however corrupts. Here's the deal. While the protests 396 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 1: have drawn international attention, there was limited mainstream media coverage 397 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 1: of it until early September. This means that people in 398 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 1: other countries knew more about this then people who you know, 399 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 1: live in this country. Yeah, and in September it got 400 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 1: us attention when construction workers bulldozed the section of land 401 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: that the historic preservation officers had dot had recently documented 402 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: as a sacred site, and when protesters entered the area, 403 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:11,199 Speaker 1: security workers used attack dogs on them as well as 404 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 1: pepper spring. There's video of all of this the Democracy 405 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 1: Now and several other people captured. There's one called the 406 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: Unicorn Riot on YouTube. I know it's a strange name, 407 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 1: but you can find lots of on the ground footage 408 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 1: of these kinds of occurrences. And yeah, at least five 409 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,640 Speaker 1: of the protesters were bitten by these dogs. But very 410 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: very strange days. Also, we cannot ignore the impact of 411 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,919 Speaker 1: social media. That's something that makes us a little different 412 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,959 Speaker 1: from the nineteen fifties or other other earlier protests, similar 413 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 1: to the way that Twitter. Depending on your perspective, Twitter 414 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: either organically encouraged the so called Arab spring or was 415 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 1: used by intel gents agencies to foment an uprising. But 416 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 1: whether it is a tool or simply a medium of 417 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,400 Speaker 1: effective communication, there's no question that this sort of online 418 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 1: platform and all its variations of social media, has greatly 419 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: impacted the nature protests. So in in in the old days, 420 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 1: the olden days, it was possible for just a fool 421 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 1: companies to control the narrative of the media. Uh spoiler alert. 422 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: They still do, but now more and more whippers snappers. 423 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: So you were seeing their own social media, so social 424 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: of information from mesher, I'm gonna drop that accent, but 425 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: you get the point. Creeping me out, man, I'm creeping 426 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: me out too, man. I've tremendously enjoyed that. So that 427 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: for what you will. That's why we're a system of 428 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: checks and balances, my friends. So more and more people 429 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: are using their own social media as what would hopefully 430 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: be a tool for change or a tool to get 431 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: there at least their perspective out there. And the biggest 432 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: example here in terms of the protest is the famous 433 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: viral check in at Standing Rock on Facebook. Did you 434 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 1: guys do this? My wife? Did? I did? Did you been? 435 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 1: I can't remember if I did. Probably I probably didn't 436 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: then because I would have remembered, wouldn't I. By the 437 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 1: time I saw it, so many people had done it too, 438 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: that I wondered. I immediately became kind of contrarian because 439 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,959 Speaker 1: I wondered if it was helping, and it seems like 440 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: it seems like it is, so maybe I'll wait and 441 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: then do it later too. I was thinking, any authority 442 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 1: that was trying to figure out who has been checking 443 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 1: in would be able just to use location services with 444 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 1: phones if they're turned on. And you know, I'm just 445 00:29:56,360 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: I'm just assuming that these you know, these authority, these 446 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 1: have whatever technology the n s A has, which is 447 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: probably not true. So it probably did help a lot, 448 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: but what Yeah, but that's the question, how much does 449 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: it actually help. I'm sure it didn't hurt people. I mean, 450 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: it could have been an example like a situation where 451 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: they thought they were really clever by doing that in 452 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: the first place, you know, by turning that on, because 453 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, social media has has been in 454 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: the last handful of years an important um element and 455 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: catalyst for protests and organizing people. So you know, you 456 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: have a Facebook event page or a group, you know, 457 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 1: and people can see that a lot of times even 458 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,719 Speaker 1: if they're not a member. So you know, the powers 459 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 1: that be here could have been like, oh well, gee, 460 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: willakers we can totally see who all is there and 461 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 1: see who the leaders are and kind of keep tabs 462 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 1: on them by monitoring their Facebook groups. And this is 463 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 1: just kind of, you know, a show of solidarity on 464 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: the one hand, and also possibly a good smoke screen 465 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: to kind of keep them from using those tools against 466 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: people that are using them to try to peacefully organize. 467 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: So here's sorry. I was gonna say one last thing. 468 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: I was gonna say that, Um, we talk about the 469 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 1: Democracy Now coverage, and uh, one thing that interesting that 470 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: came out of that, aside from their video getting millions 471 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: of views showing attack dogs with blood on their muzzles, 472 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 1: and um, Amy Goodman, who is a Democracy Now is 473 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: um sort of anchor um questioning authorities on why they're 474 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: using these dogs when no one was armed and no 475 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 1: one was being overtly threatening in any way. She actually 476 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: had a warrant issued for her arrest um for trespassing, supposedly, 477 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: and she fought it and it was ultimately dropped. But 478 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: it's just kind of another example of intimidation, trying to 479 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: suppress the media and sort of punish them for putting 480 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 1: this information out there. And so with that excellent summation 481 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: and I didn't know about them. Warrant. That's pretty interesting, 482 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: the excellent summation. We just wanted to give you some 483 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: numbers to let you know the scale of this. But 484 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 1: there's a further step here we can go down, which 485 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 1: is the Yeah, all social media at this point is 486 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: privately owned, and that means the business owners can also 487 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 1: suppress a story or a narrative they don't care for. 488 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: And this is this might be a little bit of 489 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: what do they call it inside baseball for some But 490 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: one thing that Noel and Matt and I are all 491 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 1: very conscious of is that Facebook really really doesn't like 492 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: it if you post a YouTube video, right, and you 493 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 1: can talk a little bit about that, right, Matt. Yeah, 494 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: if you're linking out to any third party site, generally 495 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 1: they dislike it. Um. The strange thing that that we found, 496 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: especially if it's a social media site and YouTube is 497 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 1: considered social media. So yeah, if you wanna show peep 498 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: your your Twitter account or your Instagram page or a 499 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 1: video you made for YouTube, yeah, it's not gonna happen. 500 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: You're gonna get maybe one percent of the engagement and 501 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: impressions on Facebook. And and we have so much, we 502 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: have so much weird fun when we need to point 503 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: anybody to a specific thing off of Facebook but still 504 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: considers social media. We've had we found so many different 505 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: ways to sort of say wink wink, cough cough, YouTube, 506 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 1: but they don't work anymore because the algorithms now are 507 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: checking for like symbolic versions and differently spelled They're evolving 508 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 1: like terminator, Yeah, exactly. We need to come up with 509 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 1: a code word that everybody knows that we can use 510 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 1: to disseminate information. Yeah, like cheese pizza. I talked about 511 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: cheese pizza all the time. Though I have an issue. 512 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if I would do the best. Maybe 513 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: people can send us suggestions. What do you think that 514 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: sounds good? How about hot dog stand in Hawaii? Visit 515 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 1: our hot dog stand in Hawaii to learn more about 516 00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 1: Facebook censorship. Maybe maybe that'll work, you know. Facebook, Though, 517 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: beside aside from them the funny hypothetical examples, it appears 518 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:11,359 Speaker 1: that Facebook did censor the Dakota protests and did use 519 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:16,319 Speaker 1: their almighty algorithm to game the system, and when they 520 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 1: were called on it, they claimed it was an error 521 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: and they said the link was removed in error restored 522 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 1: as soon as we're able to investigate. Our team processes 523 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 1: millions of reports each week. We sometimes get stuff wrong. 524 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 1: We're very sorry about the mistake. Do you believe them? 525 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,400 Speaker 1: That's up to you. Well, why don't we marinate on 526 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: that for a second when we take another quick break. 527 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,800 Speaker 1: Welcome back everybody. So now we're gonna get to the future. 528 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 1: What what is going to happen with this pipeline? In particular, 529 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 1: are these protests going to be successful? Will they just 530 00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:00,360 Speaker 1: shut down the whole thing like the Keystone xl pie blind? 531 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 1: Is the earth gonna be okay? Well, that's interesting that 532 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 1: you would mention that, because you see, the federal government 533 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 1: did tell the oil company to pause construction in September. However, 534 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 1: according to a report by The Guardian, UH, the project 535 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 1: continues despite Uncle Sam telling them to pause it for 536 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 1: a second, not put the kabash on it, but not 537 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: to continue. UH. The Energy Transfer Partners Operation says it's 538 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: mobilizing drilling equipment to tunnel under late one of the lakes, 539 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 1: which activists say is unconscionable and devastating. And that's the 540 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 1: that's the strangest thing, because you would think that when 541 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,919 Speaker 1: the federal government says don't do this anymore, they would 542 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 1: stop on their side. I'm sure there's an argument for 543 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,839 Speaker 1: how much money they lose each day that they're not 544 00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 1: doing it, you know what I mean. But if it's 545 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 1: a federal at the federal government tells you to do 546 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 1: something you kind of have to, kind of have to 547 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 1: and something you mentioned in the video this week, then 548 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 1: they released that news on a particular day, didn't on 549 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:22,279 Speaker 1: election day on election days through US presidential candidate. Yeah. 550 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 1: And it brings us also to a larger concept here, 551 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 1: which is the future of protesting in general. How will 552 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 1: social media affect protesting? We we've seen it, you know. 553 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 1: People people are able to provide some cover for protesters 554 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 1: by being there on social media, even if they're not 555 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 1: physically there. People are of course able to transmit messages 556 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:54,879 Speaker 1: through mediums that are at this point more nimble than 557 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 1: the tools of law enforcement. So on a federal level 558 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 1: and national level, many intelligence agencies are very very good 559 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:12,720 Speaker 1: at observing information and sometimes of predicting it, but not 560 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 1: quite able to shut it down yet. And there have 561 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 1: been controversial moments where, for instance, the Twitter network was 562 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,760 Speaker 1: shut down in a specific region. The ability to completely 563 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 1: shut something down may exist, but right now there are 564 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,799 Speaker 1: literally billions of people who are working to share information. 565 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:37,320 Speaker 1: Just the strength of ingenuity coming from those numbers means 566 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 1: that social media is irreparably interlinked with protesting, with being 567 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 1: able to have an alternative voice to a government or 568 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,759 Speaker 1: a dominant narrative. But I have a question for you 569 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:52,920 Speaker 1: guys to we've heard the term before cliquivist, right where 570 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,360 Speaker 1: what what would we describe a clickutivist as or that 571 00:37:56,480 --> 00:38:00,840 Speaker 1: what that term means? Hey, I clicked like on a 572 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 1: page or I shared something on my social media and 573 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 1: I have done action to protest. Now I'm basically gandhi, Yes, 574 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 1: you're welcome. I I go back and forth with that 575 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 1: term because I think it is kind of unfair to 576 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 1: to judge people's intentions that way. You know what I mean, Well, 577 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:27,319 Speaker 1: in the very least, it's showing I don't know, it's 578 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 1: making awareness. I guess that is. I mean, that is 579 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:36,279 Speaker 1: a real arguments that happens. That's a real thing. It's 580 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:40,760 Speaker 1: a worthwhile thing too. Ah. But there's a there's another 581 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 1: aspect here where I can see if people become I 582 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:50,279 Speaker 1: I think one thing people object about with so called clicktivism, 583 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:55,400 Speaker 1: people are critics of that is there. They're asking what 584 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,239 Speaker 1: the time span is, like, are you going to care 585 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:03,279 Speaker 1: about this next month, next year, next week? Yeah, but 586 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 1: you'll you'll always remember when those services like that do 587 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,239 Speaker 1: the throwback Thursday thing, it'll let you know in ten 588 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,360 Speaker 1: years that, hey, on this day, you change your profile 589 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:20,839 Speaker 1: picture to this for this thing. Right. Yeah. I I'm 590 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:29,759 Speaker 1: just hesitant to um, I'm just hesitant to completely disavow that, 591 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:33,880 Speaker 1: you know, because I think that I certainly don't. I 592 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 1: certainly don't disavow it. However, it's you know it it's 593 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 1: not physical action. It's not volunteering. It's not going on 594 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 1: and doing something right, you know, with your with your 595 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 1: hands or you know, physically making a change, but it 596 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,400 Speaker 1: is yeah, but it is making awareness, which is you know, 597 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,239 Speaker 1: I don't think if it can be understated that that 598 00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:01,720 Speaker 1: is important. Yeah. And then this goes to another thing too. 599 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 1: We're talking about this about this narrative stuff. How can 600 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,400 Speaker 1: individuals shape the course of a story or an event 601 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 1: now when the future protests or even learn of opposing 602 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:19,719 Speaker 1: views in this creepy world of algorithm driven filter bubbles. So, 603 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:24,759 Speaker 1: for instance, here's something that you will probably you'll probably notice, uh, 604 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 1: at least in Facebook and smother a lot of other 605 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:33,279 Speaker 1: social media if you if the algorithm has proof that 606 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:39,319 Speaker 1: you are a fan of I don't know, just what's 607 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 1: a random celebrity, just random celebrity. Okay, that you're a 608 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:47,280 Speaker 1: fan of Iron Chef Bobby Flay, and Iron Chef Bobby 609 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:53,600 Speaker 1: Flay does something uh tremendously controversial, weird and Gary Busey esque, 610 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 1: and half of half of the world is saying, yes, 611 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 1: Bobby Flay, take at home, buddy, You're You're the future, 612 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 1: and and then the other half of say, like, Bobby Flay, 613 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 1: You're a walking hate crime. You monster, you disgust me. 614 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 1: Then what the social media platforms and algorithms will do 615 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,400 Speaker 1: is look back on your past posting history and say, oh, well, 616 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 1: Matt really really likes Bobby Flay, so he's on this 617 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,480 Speaker 1: side of the argument. And what that means is that 618 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 1: what you will probably see, which are much more likely 619 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 1: to see on your Facebook feed or whatever your home 620 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,760 Speaker 1: platform is, is just gonna be all the other people 621 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,879 Speaker 1: who also think Bobby Flay is God's gift to barbecue 622 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 1: or whatever, and you'll miss all the people who might 623 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 1: have very valid points about why Bobby Flay is like 624 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,400 Speaker 1: a monster. I don't you know if he listens to 625 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,880 Speaker 1: the show, I don't, I don't know. You man, he 626 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:58,000 Speaker 1: really messed up. He messed it up. But yeah, so 627 00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:03,560 Speaker 1: are we not? Here? Arene things? Uh? Is? Are we 628 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,440 Speaker 1: more and more becoming echo chambers? Used the use the 629 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:10,080 Speaker 1: right the right thing there, Matt the right re turn 630 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 1: of phrase. So this brings us to uh, something that's 631 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,280 Speaker 1: somewhat irrittained to me, which is that it's an ongoing event. 632 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,279 Speaker 1: So we don't know how it's gonna end, and we 633 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,920 Speaker 1: don't have all the information. So it's quite possible that 634 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:29,560 Speaker 1: this will come out and then within days something incredibly 635 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,920 Speaker 1: decisive will happen and we'll need to go back and 636 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 1: do an update. But as for now, despite what may 637 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,399 Speaker 1: or may not be reported by your local news affiliates, 638 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:46,400 Speaker 1: there is a massive protest going on, and it's about 639 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:52,200 Speaker 1: the future of people who have historically been oppressed with 640 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:57,920 Speaker 1: the absolute compliance and at times UH leadership of our 641 00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:02,880 Speaker 1: country behind this, behind the practice, and it also goes 642 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:08,640 Speaker 1: into the future of protests. And look, it's not even 643 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:14,160 Speaker 1: it's not even a subject of what makes a person 644 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,040 Speaker 1: a person or how human beings behave in groups so 645 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,360 Speaker 1: much as it is that technology is disruptive, and now 646 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,960 Speaker 1: more than ever at any point, we have this, We 647 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:29,840 Speaker 1: have this situation where in the old status quo is 648 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:33,719 Speaker 1: going to be increasingly fragile. It's gonna be brittle, It's 649 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:37,200 Speaker 1: already bending, and soon it may break. All to say 650 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:41,319 Speaker 1: that the future is going to be paved with protests 651 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 1: at least for a time, and possibly, you know, global 652 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:49,960 Speaker 1: instability will finally result in the world war people have 653 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,840 Speaker 1: been talking about, or uh, maybe an admittance that the 654 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,960 Speaker 1: World war has already begun. And we want to know, 655 00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,600 Speaker 1: of course, what you think. When is the future protesting? 656 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,040 Speaker 1: What's going to happen in the Dakota pipeline? Are you 657 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 1: for it or against it? And if so why? I'm 658 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,200 Speaker 1: going to be pretty clear. I usually don't put my 659 00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:16,799 Speaker 1: personal opinion out here, but look, fracking is is a 660 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:20,759 Speaker 1: dangerous technology that we do not fully control, and for 661 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:25,200 Speaker 1: that reason, I do believe it's a bad decision. Is 662 00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:28,759 Speaker 1: it a necessary evil? Some would argue that it is. 663 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,920 Speaker 1: At this point, I am not persuaded, and that is 664 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:35,200 Speaker 1: again just one person's opinion. Are you for it or 665 00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:39,920 Speaker 1: against it? Uh? And if so why do you believe 666 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:43,719 Speaker 1: that energy and dependence outweighs the concerns uh fracking? Do 667 00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:48,440 Speaker 1: you believe that fracking itself is an inherently unstable technology? 668 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,800 Speaker 1: We'd like to hear from you, and again we can't. 669 00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,440 Speaker 1: I can't come up with high enough praise to do 670 00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,359 Speaker 1: the earlier stuff. You should know episode Justice they did 671 00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:02,080 Speaker 1: a really great job with fracking. And what's the best 672 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,839 Speaker 1: way to get in contact with us? Well, we have 673 00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:09,960 Speaker 1: several several options before before a private entity or a 674 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,879 Speaker 1: government shuts them down. You can contact us both on 675 00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:16,719 Speaker 1: Facebook and Twitter. But wait, there's more. You can also 676 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:20,120 Speaker 1: contact us on Instagram. 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