1 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am like Spafford, joined by my 3 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: partner and Everything Packers, Wes Hodkwitz. Coming to you here 4 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: from our studios at lambeau Field to preview Sunday Night 5 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 1: Football West. It will be the Packers against the Cowboys 6 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: down at at and T Stadium in Dallas, Green Bay. 7 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: Two to one. The Cowboys are one and two, having 8 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: played a tough game against the Eagles in Week one, 9 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: a overtime shootout against the New York Giants in Week two, 10 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: and then as we talked about on our last show, 11 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: they kind of ran into a desperate Chicago Bears team 12 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 1: in Week three and took it on the chin at 13 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 1: Soldier Field. So Dallas is one and two to this point, 14 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: and I think the biggest question marks, the two biggest 15 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: question marks heading into this game, one on each side 16 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,040 Speaker 1: of the ball. For Dallas. One is what will the 17 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: offense look like without Ceedee Lamb, who is injured? And 18 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: two are the Cowboys going to get this defensive thing 19 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: figured out? Because their defense right now is really struggling. 20 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 2: And then obviously there's the questions now with Trayvon Diggs 21 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 2: if he's going to be available for them with the 22 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,839 Speaker 2: knee injury, right, I mean, Jadavian Clowney is now there. 23 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 2: I think there were some talks about he'll probably be 24 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 2: suited up for this one the first time. That was 25 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 2: sort of their signing in the aftermath of the Micah 26 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 2: Parsons trade. A lot and you wrote about it to 27 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 2: an extent. A lot is going to be made this 28 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 2: week out of Micah Parsons, and I made a little 29 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 2: bit out of Kenny Clark as well. But for me, 30 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 2: more than anything, I think this is about the Packers offense, 31 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 2: and it's about Green Bay trying to get going here 32 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 2: against a Dallas defense that was really going through it 33 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 2: on Sunday against Chicago right now, thirty second in the 34 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 2: NFL dead last and passing defense. They're struggling to rush 35 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 2: the quarterback, pressure the quarterback, and the post Micah Parsons era. 36 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 2: Kenny Clark, to his credit, has nine pressures right now, 37 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 2: which is tied for eleventh in the NFL. But that's 38 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 2: their their leading guy. He also that one sack that 39 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 2: Kenny got in the opener is also their team lead 40 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 2: right now. So for the Packers, coming off of that 41 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 2: performance against a very difficult, very tenacious Cleveland Browns defense, 42 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 2: our response is needed. And if there was ever a 43 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 2: get back game on paper, this is set up like 44 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:24,239 Speaker 2: that for green Bay. 45 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this. I agree with you that this 46 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: game is going to be all about green Bay's offense 47 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: because the numbers jump out at you. I mean, the 48 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 1: Cowboys only have four sacks as a team. Defensively through 49 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:41,239 Speaker 1: three games, they just have one interception. The opposing quarterback 50 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: rating is one twenty five point three. That's what they 51 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: are allowing to opposing quarterbacks. Those quarterbacks being Jalen Hurts, 52 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson who has since been benched, and Caleb Williams 53 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: of the Bears. So and we're hearing, of course, lots 54 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 1: of talking green Bay about, Okay, how do you get 55 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: the running game going with Josh Jacobs and the struggles there. 56 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: This game is going to be about green Bay's passing 57 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: offense because it's going to be the passing offense that 58 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: is going to open things up for Josh Jacobs. The 59 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: Cowboys have been vulnerable to the pass, particularly to the 60 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: big play. They've given up a lot of explosive plays defensively. 61 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: I expect the Packers to come into this game in 62 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: full attack, aggressive mode offensively, and they are going to 63 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 1: They are going to make the Cowboys stop the big play. 64 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: I think matt Lefuller is going to go after him well. 65 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 2: And you and I answered a lot of questions this 66 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 2: week about Jordan Love and the Packers offense, but one 67 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 2: of the statistics that still is out there for Green Bay, 68 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 2: and it's a pro football focused step. But when it 69 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 2: comes to big play throws, nobody's made more of them 70 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 2: this season than Jordan Love. The Packers had a ton 71 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 2: of explosive plays in those two first two games. Maybe 72 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 2: didn't score as much as Packers would have liked, but 73 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 2: effectively were able to move the football. Last week, in 74 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 2: addition to not scoring, they really struggled to move the 75 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 2: football the running game. For Josh Jacobs to be held 76 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 2: to thirty yards and sixteen carries, that is so not 77 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 2: really even indicative of the type of running back he 78 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 2: is or how productive Green Bay has been on the ground. 79 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 2: Maybe they haven't always had those big explosive plays, but 80 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 2: they've found ways to push the pile three four yards 81 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:25,799 Speaker 2: even when necessary of the yards weren't there, That didn't 82 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 2: happen against Cleveland. And one of the things I had 83 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 2: so much respect for the Browns about that I didn't 84 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 2: understand until I watched him is when you hear single high, 85 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 2: it's like, Okay, this is a feast or famine type defense. No, 86 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 2: they are just that good in that fast at getting 87 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 2: pressure on the quarterback that they can play those games 88 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:44,359 Speaker 2: in the secondary. Dallas is not that defense, especially in 89 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 2: this current construct, without Micah Parsons there. As much as 90 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 2: Parsons has added to Green Bay's scheme, it took something 91 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 2: big away from Dallas's. Because that's honestly, in all due 92 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 2: respect to Brian Schottenheimer and everybody there, they planned the 93 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 2: entire offseason eventually to have Mike Persons out there, and 94 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 2: they don't have him right now. So this is this 95 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 2: is a tough spot for them to be in as well. 96 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 2: But for the Packers standpoint again, you and I will 97 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 2: do these previews and we'll talk about the opponent. But 98 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 2: for me, out of all these games we've covered so far, 99 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 2: this one really is about green Bay and what the 100 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 2: Packers have to do here that they didn't accomplish in Cleveland. 101 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's it's a it's a bounce back game 102 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: for green Bay's offensive line. And from a health standpoint, 103 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 1: you know, Zach tom was not at practice on Wednesday, 104 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: Aaron Banks not at practice on Wednesday. We'll see exactly 105 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,559 Speaker 1: what shakes out with green Bay starting lineup and who's 106 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 1: going to be playing where. But but regardless of the who, 107 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: it's a bounce back game for green Bay's offensive line. 108 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,679 Speaker 1: The way things went in Cleveland. You know, I get, 109 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: I admit I get a little tired of all of 110 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 1: the criticism that I read from the fans and the 111 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: insider inbox about, you know, all the green Bay offensive line. 112 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 1: It's this huge problem, like what's going on? Like did 113 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: you watch the two games of the season against the 114 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: Lions and against the Commanders. Green Bay's offensive line did 115 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: exactly what it needed to do to win those games. 116 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: The unit had a bad game, it doesn't mean it's 117 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,799 Speaker 1: a bad unit. It doesn't mean the Packers have suddenly 118 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: have all kinds of problems because they had one bad 119 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 1: Sunday in the first road game of the season. Now 120 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: that being said, they've got to turn it back around 121 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: the other direction. I'm expecting to see an offensive line 122 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,799 Speaker 1: a lot more like the one we saw against Detroit 123 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: a lot more like the one we saw against Washington, 124 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 1: even if a starter to you know, there were two starters. 125 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: Those two starters were missing against Washington. The Packers offensive 126 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 1: line didn't miss a beat there, and that was no 127 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: slouch of a commander's defense, So go ahead. 128 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,919 Speaker 2: Elton Jenkins talked to his locker on Wednesday, and in 129 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 2: addition to the fact that he has a very big 130 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 2: assignment coming up against Kenny Clark, doups of those two 131 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 2: guys practicing against each other, particularly in training camp, right 132 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 2: when they're really going good on good and you're trying 133 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 2: to kind of hone in yourself and sharpen the iron there. 134 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 2: But he also mentioned afterwards talking to the Packers' offensive line, 135 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 2: Elton Jenkins is the first one to step up. In 136 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 2: addition to his group media interview and then also talking 137 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 2: with Jason Wildy afterwards. You know, Elton wasn't happy with 138 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 2: how he performed, and he wasn't happy with how the 139 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:19,239 Speaker 2: offensive line performed. He went to those guys afterwards after 140 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 2: the game and told them, you guys all got to 141 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 2: go home and look in the mirror and be critical 142 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 2: of yourself and what we put on tape today because, 143 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 2: as you often talk about, when you do that, when 144 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 2: that type of stuff happens, teams learn how to attack you. 145 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 2: It's about how green Bay, now as a whole, bounces back. 146 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 3: Now. 147 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 2: The one thing those guys won't do, they won't make excuses. 148 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,679 Speaker 2: That was a very disadvantageous position that the Packers offensive 149 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 2: line got put into. You are facing arguably the best 150 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 2: pass rusher in the National Football League. You're thinking, Zach 151 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 2: Tom might be able to get through this thing, and 152 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 2: you lose them after one play. Tom will see what 153 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 2: happens with the oblique. It sounds like he didn't reaggravate it, 154 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 2: which is positive. But again, there's this game. There's the 155 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 2: buy trying to get him right, Aaron Banks, the groin injury. 156 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 2: We'll see what happens there. So those are two big 157 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 2: holes that the green Bay Packers have to fill. But 158 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 2: at the very least, assuming neither of those guys go 159 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 2: and went Thursday's practice or Friday's practice, the Packers will 160 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 2: have an opportunity to kind of figure out what their 161 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 2: best five is and proceed with that now into this game. 162 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, and on the other side of the ball, despite 163 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: the Cowboys one to two record. You can't look past 164 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: the fact that Dak Prescott's completing seventy one point four 165 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: percent of his passes. He's thrown for eight hundred yards 166 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: in three games, which is no small feat. But as 167 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 1: I mentioned at the top, Ceedee Lamb, the number one 168 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: wide receiver and Prescott's favorite target, is out and the 169 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: Cowboys also will be missing one of their starting guards 170 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: in Tyler Booker, who who also is on the shelf 171 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks. One of the things that 172 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 1: jumped out at me looking at Dallas's offensive statistics is 173 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: tight end Jake Ferguson. He's got twenty seven catches in 174 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: three games. Now, he's not going to necessarily continue that, 175 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 1: but he's on pace for like one hundred and fifty 176 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: catches over the course of the season. He's catching nine 177 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: passes per game on average, and he could be a 178 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: guy that Prescott looks for even more if that's possible 179 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: with with Ceedee Lamb not available. So that's something that 180 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: that the Packers need to keep an eye on. And 181 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: uh and the Cowboys have a new running back as well. 182 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: They got Javante If I'm saying Williams Javonte now refresh 183 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: this old guy's memory. He was with Denver second round 184 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:39,719 Speaker 1: right second round draft pick with the Denver Broncos. So 185 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: he's there, he's their new belcow running back, and you 186 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: know he's he's a guy who's who's been there and 187 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: done that in this league, even though he's still pretty 188 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: young and UH certainly with UH seeing as much as 189 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: well as the Packers have played against the run, seeing 190 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: those couple of explosive runs that Quin Shaw Quin Shawn 191 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: Judkins excuse me, ripped off against the Packers in the 192 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: second half in Cleveland, the Cowboys may be looking to 193 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 1: do something there. So for all to talk about what 194 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: this means with Green Bay's offense against Dallas' defense and everything, 195 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: I don't want to overlook the other side of things 196 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:22,719 Speaker 1: because even without Ceedee Lamb, Dak Prescott is still a 197 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: guy who a lot of times finds a way. 198 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. 199 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 2: In first and foremost, I mean Javonte Williams, I would 200 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 2: say is actually one of the best free agent signings 201 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 2: we've seen so far. One year, three and a half 202 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 2: million dollars. He had some down years there and he 203 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 2: was trying to get things right again. Dallas, you know, 204 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 2: one of the hallmarks man. We talk about the Packers' 205 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 2: ability to develop offensive lineman Dallas, especially with the way 206 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 2: that they build their offensive line. They've had a lot 207 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 2: of success with plug and play guys. This has gone 208 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,079 Speaker 2: back for a decade now. I think a Darren McFadden 209 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 2: going down there. Obviously, DeMarco Murray having the run that 210 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 2: he did. Ezekiel Elliott, without a doubt, was a pro bowler. 211 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 3: In his time. 212 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 2: But for Williams to go there and be this productive 213 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 2: one thing they really struggled with last year. They did 214 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 2: not have a running game at all during Mike McCarthy's 215 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 2: last year, and that really affected them. Once Dak Prescott 216 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 2: was gone, they needed to get that right. They felt 217 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 2: like they could get that right, and this was sort 218 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 2: of a mid level market signing and it's worked out 219 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 2: for him so well. Already has three touchdown runs as 220 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 2: well this season. Jake Ferguson is fascinating because he has 221 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 2: twenty seven catches for six point eight yards per catch. 222 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 2: But that being said, he's already at his forty percent 223 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 2: threshold for where he was at last year in receptions. 224 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 2: I think he had fifty four or something like that 225 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 2: last year. Pretty darn near close to half of it already, 226 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 2: so Packers will have to find a way to neutralize him. 227 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 2: And George Pickens is the new weapon. So even if 228 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 2: cdee Lamb isn't out there, and he is a handful, 229 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 2: he's one of the very best in this game, Dak 230 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 2: Prescott still has guys to work around. And now that 231 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 2: Prescott's back, he's put the hamstring injury behind him. The 232 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 2: yards per play and the explosive plays haven't been there 233 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 2: so far for Dallas. When you look about you look 234 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 2: at his yards per passing play, I think it's in 235 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,959 Speaker 2: the six to eight range. Then you go over to 236 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 2: their opponents which is almost like nine point eight. Yeah, 237 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 2: yards per play. So defensively they're gashing a lot, but 238 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 2: offensively they've been really, you know, pretty efficient so far. 239 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 2: Fourth in the league right now in total yards. But 240 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 2: they've also had turnovers too that. 241 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 3: I've hurt them. 242 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, the storylines that of course we've been talking 243 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: about with the players. You mentioned it before. Micah Parsons 244 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: will be returning to Dallas sort of that unexpected homecoming 245 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: because a month ago he wouldn't have thought this was 246 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 1: in the cards necessarily, and now the Packers and a 247 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: bunch of guys in Green Bay, particularly Elton Jenkins, are 248 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,559 Speaker 1: going to go head to head with Kenny Clark, one 249 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: of their favorite former teammates and mainstay here. You have 250 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,599 Speaker 1: a story on our website about the whole Jenkins and 251 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: Clark matchup. I have a story on the website about 252 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 1: Micah Parsons and what he had to say about the homecoming. 253 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: So I don't want to belabor that. But everything that 254 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: I heard, and you found some comments that Kenny Clark 255 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: made to the Dallas media and whatnot, I can't say 256 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:03,959 Speaker 1: I've been surprised at all by anything I've heard from 257 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: any of the players kind of you know, involved in 258 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:07,839 Speaker 1: all this. I mean, I got the sense from Micah 259 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: Parsons that he just wants the he just wants the 260 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 1: game to get started, because he feels like, once once, 261 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,559 Speaker 1: once the ball is kicked off, it's it's a football game. 262 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: It's not about him being back in Dallas and all 263 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: of that anymore. And I think, you know, once Elton 264 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: Jenkins and Kenny Clark kind of you know, lockhorns for 265 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: a couple three plays, you know, in the early portion 266 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: of the game, then that part kind of goes away. 267 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: As well, because it's just another opponent, right, So yeah, 268 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: that seems to be the way everybody's approaching it. 269 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean Kenny said, Kenny might have set 270 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:41,839 Speaker 2: a record for saying needing to go one to zero 271 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 2: in a nine minute interview. That was his focus is that, 272 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 2: And he was great. He's like Kenny always is, very humble, 273 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 2: very affable. You can tell that the Dallas media has 274 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:56,559 Speaker 2: already taken to him down there, and but this ultimately 275 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 2: is about trying to win this game. The one thing 276 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 2: I thought was really interesting that Kenny said though he 277 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 2: was legitimately shocked and he was really surprised. He had 278 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 2: heard the rumblings that they potentially could be acquiring Michael Parsons. 279 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 2: He didn't. He was floored when he found out. He said, 280 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:12,719 Speaker 2: he was downstairs with his he had just gotten home 281 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,599 Speaker 2: from practice. He was with his daughter and Brian Gudikun's 282 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 2: the same GM that was just give him a fist 283 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 2: bump a couple hours earlier at practice that same day, 284 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 2: was calling to let him know that this trade had 285 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 2: gone through and Kenny was the player. 286 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 3: Now. 287 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 2: The one thing that I think is the ultimate credit 288 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 2: to Kenny is the Dallas. 289 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 3: Cowboys wanted him badly. 290 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 2: This wasn't just oh, we we're gonna trade two first 291 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 2: round picks and we got to throw somebody else in 292 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 2: to make the money work. No, I mean the Cowboys 293 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 2: really felt like he was. I think there's been a 294 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 2: little bit of a caricature with it with the Jerry 295 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 2: Jones stuff, but the personnel department there really valued what 296 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 2: he brings as a defensive tackle and they've really struggled 297 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 2: with the edge rush. But inside he has a good 298 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 2: one too going early on. But for him, it is 299 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 2: about this game. He said, you know, they were asking him, 300 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 2: are you gonna go get some hugs before and He's like, 301 00:14:58,320 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 2: I'm there to be hugged, but I'm not going to 302 00:14:59,920 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 2: go pursue it. I mean, if people want to come 303 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 2: up to me and talk and chat, that's great, but 304 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 2: I have a job to do and that's ultimately what 305 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 2: he wants to be able to get done. And Michael Parsons, 306 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 2: as you were part of that discussion, I thought had 307 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 2: some really salient points and that, Yeah, it's a lot 308 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 2: of talk, and it's a lot of headlines and it's 309 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 2: a lot of narratives going into this thing. But once 310 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 2: that ball is snapped. He has a job to do. 311 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 2: He hopes that people down in Dallas love him. He 312 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 2: hopes that people appreciate what he gave. But he doesn't 313 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 2: need any like type of like circumstances or celebrations or 314 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 2: He's not. 315 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: Worried about the scoreboard tribute thing that Jerry Jones said 316 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: is not going to happen the way it's happened in 317 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: Dallas for Emmett Smith and and for Ezekiel Elliott when 318 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: they came back, and he's like and he's like, I'm 319 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: not worried, you know, he's It's the last thing on 320 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: his He wants to play it. Frankly, he just wants 321 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: to play the football. 322 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 3: Thank you for saving me. I can't think of the 323 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 3: word tribute there. 324 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: Well, we've already touched on a few things, but when 325 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: it comes to keys to victory in this game, to 326 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: kind of boil it down to, you know, the one 327 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: or two bullet points, where are you at on this one? 328 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 2: For the Packers, Packer's got to run the ball, Mike, 329 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 2: you gotta run the ball one way or another. They 330 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 2: got to find a way to get this thing going. 331 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 2: I think Josh is when you're it's not like Cincinnati. 332 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw those statistics that are 333 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 2: going on in Cincinnati right now. I forget the back's name. 334 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 2: I mean he's like negative fifty four yards before contact. 335 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 2: I mean basically, the defensive front is in the backfield 336 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 2: before he can even get moving. But Jacobs has had 337 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 2: a hard time finding some wiggle room, and he's faced 338 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 2: some really good defenses too. There's some really strong opponents 339 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 2: that he's gone up against. But with defenses wanting to 340 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 2: throw an extra guy in the box. And Kenny even 341 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 2: said it in his address with the media, I mean 342 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 2: that is where everything starts for green Bay. If Josh 343 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 2: Jacobs starts running, if Tucker Kraft, as Kenny also pointed out, 344 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 2: if those two start getting going and inside, everything opens 345 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 2: up for Green Bay in the passing game. So they 346 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 2: have to be able to run the football and then 347 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 2: honestly to build off of that. And I hope I'm 348 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 2: not stealing anything from you because I'm talking a lot here. 349 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 2: But Jordan Love getting back the horse, and you mentioned it, 350 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 2: he did that after the interception. He led them down, 351 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 2: put them back in scoring position. But Jordan Love may 352 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 2: have played one of his best games in that wild 353 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 2: card game against Dallas a year and a half ago. 354 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 2: This is critical now for him to be able to 355 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 2: put everything that happened in Cleveland behind him, refocus and 356 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 2: just get this offense humming. Yeah, Packers are still looking 357 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:25,439 Speaker 2: for that first thirty point game on paper, thirty points 358 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 2: allowed so far per game for Dallas. It's set up 359 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 2: for green Bay to have success. 360 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's why to me, what rises to the 361 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 1: top for me here is that the Packers need to 362 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: finish drives in this game. Because I expect this matchup 363 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: green Bay's offense against Dallas' defense. I expect the Packers 364 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: to be able to move the ball and to be 365 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: able to move the ball really consistently. But you and 366 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: I have seen plenty of games where you can have 367 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: a team that's moving the ball, you can be racking 368 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: up all kinds of yards, But then if you can't 369 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:58,400 Speaker 1: finish drives and you're settling for field goals, then you're 370 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 1: not maximizing on those opportunities that you're creating for yourself. 371 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 1: And I do expect the Packers to be able to 372 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 1: move the ball into rack up yards, but they've got 373 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 1: to finish the drives to rack up the points as well. 374 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: I mean the Packers have won. As we know, the 375 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: Packers have not lost in at and T Stadium since 376 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: that place was built. It's a six game winning streak 377 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 1: that started with Super Bowl thirty five, sorry super Bowl 378 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,640 Speaker 1: forty five, excuse me, against the Pittsburgh Steelers, and then 379 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: the last five games have been against Dallas down there. 380 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: The Packers have won them all. What really jumps out 381 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 1: when you look at the scores of those games is 382 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: that the Packers have averaged thirty six and a half 383 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 1: points in those six victories in that building. They go 384 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: in there and they score points, and that needs to continue. 385 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: And I think this is an opportunity for Green Bay 386 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 1: to do that. On the flip side. Defensively, I just 387 00:18:54,440 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 1: think it's about making Dak Prescott uncomfortable. And because I 388 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 1: don't know about you, but I always feel like when 389 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: I if I'm watching the Cowboys on television, their offense 390 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 1: always looks different at home versus when it's on the road, 391 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:13,719 Speaker 1: and when no matter what the statistics say, necessarily Dallas 392 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 1: at home to me is always still a very dangerous 393 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: offense with Dak Prescott at the controls. And I think 394 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 1: it's incumbent upon the Packers Parsons and company pass rush wise, 395 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 1: where Shan Gary's got the four and a half sacks 396 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: already so far this year. They need to make They 397 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: need to make Prescott uncomfortable, and I like green Bay's chances. 398 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 2: Honestly, I think for green Bay's defense, I'm glad you 399 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 2: brought that up. If they can sack Prescott and they 400 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 2: can turn the ball over, those are the only two 401 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 2: things that we're missing from Cleveland. I don't care if 402 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 2: it's fumble. People are asking about the force fumbles and 403 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:47,439 Speaker 2: the emphasis on that they haven't gotten the force fumbs yet. 404 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 2: I don't care if it's a force fumble. I don't 405 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 2: care if it's a fumble. I don't care if Dak 406 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,439 Speaker 2: Prescott catches the ball, lays it on the ground and 407 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 2: invites them to pick it up. However you get the football. 408 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 2: Just being able to make those type of game changing plays, 409 00:19:57,920 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 2: that's what changed the tie to that Browns game. As 410 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 2: much the Packers is disappointing, that was for green Bay 411 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 2: to lose that way. One takeaway absent the end of 412 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 2: the first half. I'm talking about a drive killing takeaway 413 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 2: would have I think put things in green Bay's favor. 414 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 2: They didn't get it. The other thing, I just want 415 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 2: to mention very quickly, and you know this better than anybody. 416 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 2: Their nineteen nineties green Bay Packers could not get past 417 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys. That table has flipped. However, Packer fans 418 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 2: thought of the Seattle Seahawks in the early twenty tens, 419 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 2: the San Francisco forty nine ers, now some of these 420 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 2: teams that have stood in the way at Green Bay, 421 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 2: the Packers have been that force for the Dallas Cowboys. 422 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,199 Speaker 2: A lot of people laughed about that that show they 423 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 2: did on Netflix where Jerry Jones is talking about how 424 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 2: devastating that loss was last year when they were or 425 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 2: two years ago when they were the number one seed, 426 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 2: in the number two seed or twof seed the first 427 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 2: two to seven game, how difficult that was to take 428 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 2: because you got to remember, Dallas has lost some absolute 429 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 2: killers to green Bay. When you go back to twenty 430 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 2: fourteen and the des Brian catch no catch, that Packers 431 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 2: have been a thorn in their side. So when Brian 432 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 2: Schottenheimer says, I don't care if we have Tyler Brooker, 433 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 2: I don't care if we have CD Lamb we have 434 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 2: enough to beat the Green bit Packers. You best believe 435 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 2: you're gonna get Dallas's best effort. 436 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, I think I think the Packers are going 437 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:22,479 Speaker 1: to get Dallas's best shot because yeah, and certainly that 438 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: fan base that is going to be filling that stadium, 439 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: I do think there will be a decent contingent of 440 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: Packers fans there. But that fan base remembers the twenty 441 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: fourteen Divisional game, the twenty sixteen Divisional game which was 442 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: in Dallas, the twenty twenty three wild Card game which 443 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: was in Dallas. That those those fans remember those games 444 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: and they will be they'll be out for blood, so 445 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: to speak, in this one. So we do need to 446 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 1: pay some bills. So right now, let's turn it over 447 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 1: to a word from our sponsors. Serious XM NFL Radio 448 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,719 Speaker 1: delivers hard hitting analysis and up to the minute NFL 449 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 1: news that true football fanatics need. Twenty four to seven, 450 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: three sixty five. At Cousin Subs, we have something for everyone, 451 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: like our Wisconsin cheese curds, mac and cheese, golden fries, 452 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: and creamy shakes, all paired with your favorite sub or 453 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: Subina Bowl. 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In Week four, we'll start 462 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 1: with the NFC North Minnesota Vikings are against the Pittsburgh 463 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: Steelers in Dublin, So we get to wake up in 464 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:56,919 Speaker 1: our hotel room Sunday morning in Dallas and turn on 465 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 1: NFL Football. Yeah, eight thirty eight Central time kickoff if 466 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,919 Speaker 1: you're so inclined. Cleveland is at Detroit, so that Browns 467 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: team that just knocked off Green Bay now goes into 468 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: Ford Field. And then the Bears, coming off their first 469 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: win of the season, go to Las Vegas to take 470 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: on a Raiders team that is struggling a bit. I 471 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: think the Bears have a great opportunity to get to 472 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: two and two and kind of erase their zero and 473 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: two start. But any thoughts you have on those NFC 474 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: North matchups. 475 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, it's funny, man, we're back to Aaron Rodgers. 476 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 2: It's right, and not that some fans stop, but I 477 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 2: mean this is this is a big one. I mean, Minnesota, 478 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 2: that was a huge response. I thought every team in 479 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 2: the NFC, it's again, it speaks to the strength of 480 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 2: the division. When they've all been punched in the mouth 481 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 2: so far, each one of them is bounced back. I 482 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 2: already made my point known on Tuesdays show about Chicago 483 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 2: and how I felt like they played against Dallas and 484 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 2: that was the right response the Vikings to lose Aaron 485 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 2: Jones and JJ McCarthy and then look that good in 486 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 2: that game and Carson Wentz and I mean probably the 487 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 2: best you know videos, memes, highlights, you know those old 488 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 2: clips of him in the stadium at the Metrodome with 489 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,360 Speaker 2: the you know, the Vikings jersey on, you know, as 490 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 2: a North Dakota kid being over there and he going 491 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 2: to those games. Now he's the quarterback. I mean, that's 492 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 2: that's what the NFL is all about. But that being said, 493 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh and that defense that has been built to win 494 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 2: a championship. This year has to come through. So that'll 495 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 2: be a fun one to watch. These Thursday night games 496 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 2: have been great. It's really fun to watch. I mean, 497 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 2: not necessarily the Dolphins one, but I mean, by and 498 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,360 Speaker 2: large this season, these are This is a really high 499 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 2: stakes matchup. Seattle's feeling good about itself, Arizona was feeling 500 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,199 Speaker 2: good about self. And you know, Marvin Harrison had some drops, 501 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,120 Speaker 2: some mis cues, and now they lost James Connors. 502 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: So yeah, both those teams, Seahawks and Cardinals for Thursday football, 503 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: they're both two and one. That's a big that's a 504 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: big game in the NFC West. 505 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 2: Huge, huge, huge, And uh you know the Seahawks too 506 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 2: have been working through some injuries there. So this is 507 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 2: a really good slate of game. I mean, you're gonna 508 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,679 Speaker 2: talk about the whole thing here, but I mean there's 509 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 2: there's a couple mismatches. Again, Buffalo gets matched up against 510 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 2: New Orleans and three zero and three. Yeah, but then yeah, 511 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 2: I mean Philly in Tampa. I mean, like Jacksonville has 512 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,120 Speaker 2: impressed some people. They get to face the forty nine ers, 513 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 2: the Colts and the Rams. 514 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 3: I don't want to take your win. 515 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: No, No, those were a couple of the ones that 516 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 1: I was gonna mention. You've got Philadelphia going up against 517 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay. Here two three and o teams in the NFC. 518 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: That one is that one is down in Tampa. I 519 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 1: think a sneaky interesting game is Indianapolis at the Rams 520 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: with you know the Rams. The rams only loss was, 521 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: you know, blowing the big lead against Philadelphia and Indianapolis 522 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: is kind of the surprise of the league. I would say, 523 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 1: right now, off to that three and oh start. And 524 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 1: then speaking of surprises, I don't think at the beginning 525 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: of the season, either one of us would have said, oh, 526 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: Baltimore against Kansas City in Week four and both teams 527 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 1: are one and two, you know, so bar some sort 528 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,199 Speaker 1: of you know, crazy overtime tie. I mean, either the 529 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: Ravens or the Chiefs is going to be one and 530 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 1: three one month into the season. That's certainly something. 531 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 3: Uh'll both be one two and one. Yeah, sorry, I 532 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 3: always gotta be that. 533 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 1: Guy, I know, but that's that's not a scenario anyone 534 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: necessarily envision. Now that being said, I think both the 535 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 1: Ravens and the Chiefs have played some played a tough 536 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: schedule you know, they've they've had you know, they've had 537 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:26,679 Speaker 1: their opponents kind of. 538 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 3: I just did what they need to do last week. 539 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 3: Ye first are tough? 540 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely so. I it's it's a it is, it's 541 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: a it's a really interesting slate of games. I want 542 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: to get. I want to get your thoughts as far 543 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: as Philly going down to Tampa Bay. One of these 544 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: teams theoretically will be four and oh the other one 545 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: is going to drop to three and one. Which one 546 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: do you think stays undefeated? 547 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 2: Yeah? 548 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 3: I think Eagles run through them. 549 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 2: To be honest with you, Okay, I have a ton 550 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 2: of respect for what Todd Bowles is built there. There's 551 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 2: a lot of people that thought he was just going 552 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 2: to be that. You know, we've seen this so many 553 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:58,959 Speaker 2: times where you have the air apparent and then they 554 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 2: just it just doesn't work out you when they succeed him. 555 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 2: I think Bowls has done a good job of taking 556 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 2: what Bruce arians built and has made it his own 557 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 2: now and showed that. You know, he did deserve that 558 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 2: opportunity to be a head coach again in this league. 559 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 2: But I just think Philly is so formidable right now 560 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 2: and they can beat you in so many different ways. 561 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's a bad game. 562 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: But yeah, and it's a bad time for Tampa Bay 563 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,199 Speaker 1: to lose Mike Evans to a string injury too. You know, 564 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 1: I would have leaned toward Philadelphia in this matchup of 565 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,120 Speaker 1: early unbeatens anyway, but then hearing that Evans is now 566 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:33,919 Speaker 1: out and the Buccaneers don't have Chris Godwin, you know, 567 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: they still don't have all the all their other weapons back, 568 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: and now you lose a guy like Evans, that's really 569 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 1: going to put really going to put the pressure on 570 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield. And for all the magic he has worked 571 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: in the first three years of the season, I think 572 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 1: the magic runs out a little bit here in Week four. 573 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'll never come him out. I mean, this 574 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 2: guy's incredible what he's been doing. He's proved me wrong 575 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,199 Speaker 2: several times over over the years, including this season alone. 576 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 2: But it's also the most winnable division in football. So 577 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 2: it's like if they if they do find a way 578 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 2: to beat Philadelphia, that's a great way to put your 579 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 2: flag in the ground and say we're going to be 580 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 2: a contender this year. I just want to also a 581 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 2: couple of other things. I want to mention absolutely hate. 582 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 2: I'm using the word hate here the idea of starting 583 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 2: Jackson Dart this week, they're gonna make that switch with 584 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 2: the Giants. He's taken over under center. Russell Wilson is 585 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 2: going as the backup. Brian Davil said, that's gonna be 586 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 2: the way they're gonna do it the rest of the year. 587 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 2: They're going against. They are at home, but they're going 588 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 2: against the three to zero LA Chargers team. Next week 589 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 2: they play the Saints. If it was me, I think 590 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 2: I would have given Russ one more start here because 591 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 2: this isn't This game isn't going to changing thing. It's 592 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 2: a non conference opponent, and if the Chargers get after him, 593 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 2: that's not great. And then Cleveland and Detroit man is 594 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 2: a really really sneaky good game. It also shows you 595 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 2: the different levels of two and two teams sometimes, right, 596 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 2: like the Browns get to two and two, they're gonna 597 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 2: look like world beaters. Yeah, after knocking off Green Bay 598 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 2: in Detroit, no kidding, but with how the Lions offense 599 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,239 Speaker 2: is playing right now, specifically that run game against this 600 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 2: uh Cleveland defense. Oh and by the way, it's coordinated 601 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 2: by Jim Schwartz. 602 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 3: Theater. 603 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 1: Yea cinema, Yeah, there we go. Well with that, we 604 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: will call it a rap on this edition of Packers Unscripted. 605 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: Be sure to follow all of our coverage of the 606 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: team and all of our coverage of Sunday nights game 607 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: from Dallas. Wes and I will both be there and 608 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: we will have it all for you on Packers dot com. 609 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: For Wes, I'm Miike. Thank you for tuning in. 610 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 2: Everybody. 611 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: We will see you next time.