1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:01,800 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Official Chess Podcast. 2 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 2: Dangling a stake in front of the lion and you 3 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 2: ain't got no cage in between you. 4 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 3: He gonna get to that state. 5 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 4: So let's go inside the matchup. 6 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 5: Motivated Aaron Rodgers. 7 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 3: Is it dangerous? Aaron Rodgers? 8 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:17,479 Speaker 6: Game Day and every day? Score a jewelry touchdown with 9 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 6: Kendra Scott. Shot fashion and find jewelry fit for another 10 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 6: winning season at your local store or at kendrascott dot com. 11 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 6: Shine Bright, Do Good with Kendra Scott. 12 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 1: I'm feeling festive. It's December, restless around the corner. 13 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 3: Yes, I'm looking at me. I gotta stay in my buck. 14 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: So let's be very positive right now. 15 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 6: One guy on this jud's roster that you're excited about 16 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 6: more than anybody. 17 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: Else right now is the rookie left tackle. 18 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 4: You want to talk about a little FASHIONA Oh mean. 19 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I love a little fashion. 20 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 2: When you talk about patience, he never gets ahead of 21 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 2: his skies when you say that, he's never reaching. He's 22 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 2: always in proper position and you're gonna lose sometimes, but 23 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 2: when you make sure that in the heat of the 24 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 2: battle that you're still fundamentally sound. He has tremendous punch, 25 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 2: and he's as the ability to engage and disengage. 26 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 3: And re engage again, which is a tough thing. 27 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 2: Usually eventually the pass rusher gets the advantage and is 28 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 2: able to get space, and space is always to defend 29 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 2: his friend because he can see what's happening behind you. 30 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 2: You can't, but he has a great knack and just 31 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 2: stay patient and allowing you to make the move, and 32 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 2: he reacts to it after the fact, which always makes 33 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 2: you more correct. 34 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 6: Baldy, how huge is it for this organization that they 35 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 6: not only drafted this kid, but he looks like a 36 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 6: prospect that is going to be a centerpiece on this 37 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 6: offensive line for a. 38 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 5: Long He has to be, and they need that. They 39 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 5: need an anchor at left tackle especially, they're hard to find. 40 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 5: When you get one, you just want to just let 41 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 5: him go out there play, be consistent. You know, it starts, 42 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 5: you know at that position. You go, let's get ten years. 43 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 5: Let's get ten years to brick and Shaw was that 44 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 5: guy for ten years. They had that, They had a 45 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 5: lot of success with it. So everybody's looking for that guy, everybody, 46 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 5: and so I feel like they've got a guy that's 47 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 5: getting the time right now to start to develop. He's 48 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 5: only going to get stronger, all right, He's only going 49 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 5: to get more wise, So I think it's a good 50 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 5: start for what ol who's doing right now. 51 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 6: Have we talked enough this year about John Simpson on 52 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 6: what kind of edition he's bound? 53 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, you talk about taking that mentor role, right, and 54 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 2: it's kind of reversed, right because when he was in Baltimore, 55 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 2: you know, Ronnie Stanley was the alpha male that was 56 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 2: teaching him. But now you know, it's great sometimes when 57 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 2: you see young players and John Simpson is still a 58 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 2: young player, have to teach because it makes you have 59 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 2: to hold yourself accountable because now you have somebody that's 60 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 2: depending on you, or somebody that's looking at you and 61 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 2: trying to mimic everything that you do. So it makes 62 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 2: you a model citizen, which brings the best version of 63 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 2: yourself out as a player. And I think that's what's 64 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 2: happening this year. And the great thing about it is 65 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 2: we are talking about Simpson. We are talking about penalties, 66 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 2: we are talking about miss past sets. You talk about 67 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 2: we knew when he came in his ability to pull 68 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 2: and all that stuff was was elite. Being in Baltimore 69 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 2: and all the things they asked their guards doing the 70 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 2: run game. But I didn't realize that he was going 71 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 2: to be able to be such a great pass protector. 72 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 2: And that's what he's done at at this juncture. I 73 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 2: don't know if he's given up. 74 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 5: He's the ultimate free agent. He played for a second contract. 75 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 5: He earned a second contract, all right, And he's a 76 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 5: young guy, like he's only in his fifth season right now. 77 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 5: He's his career. He's just right now getting into really prime. 78 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 5: And so I think Baltimore did a good job of 79 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 5: developing him and raising them. And they give a lot 80 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 5: of credit to the Jets in the front office identifying 81 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 5: him and going okay, it's a corner piece. And now 82 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 5: you put Simpson and Olu together and Tipman, you start 83 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 5: building continuity, Like you start to get to all the 84 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 5: things that Lineman say all the time, like it's nonverbal communication. 85 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 5: I know what we're doing, we know when to leave 86 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 5: the combo, we know how to get up to the 87 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 5: second level, like you're starting to see, especially last week, 88 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 5: I thought you're starting to see some of that ability 89 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 5: between those three guys on that left side. 90 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 6: What would be like most about Tipman here in your 91 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 6: two and what kind of steps is he taken? 92 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 4: And also what kind of sea ones does the kid 93 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 4: like that? 94 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 3: I mean, it's just consistency. 95 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 2: I think he could be up there right there with 96 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 2: Linderbaum and Cree Humphreys. I think, you know, you talk 97 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 2: about his ability and I wish they would do it more. 98 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 2: But I mean, I want I'm on to move. I 99 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 2: like to see him do on a move. I want 100 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 2: to see him like, uh try Jason Kelce. I want 101 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 2: to see him. You know, when you stack the defense 102 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 2: this way by putting your formation here, you can actually 103 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 2: play like you have a tight end to the left 104 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 2: side because you have the ability to block back and 105 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 2: pull your pull your center and pull your center to 106 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 2: the open side. 107 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 5: You know what I mean. 108 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 2: I think that's a beautiful thing to be able to have. 109 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 2: Not everybody has the ability with the athleticism to be 110 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:44,799 Speaker 2: able to do that, because when you pull that center 111 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 2: to the open side, he becomes that lead blocker. 112 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 3: It's a numbers game, and he's a He's a guy 113 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 3: that can get. 114 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 2: Around that corner, get up to the second level, steal 115 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 2: that inside linebacker, especially if you set the defense with 116 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 2: a counter step with the with the with the running 117 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 2: back this way to set that linebacker and make him 118 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 2: take that step. He can get it and fool them 119 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 2: because a lot of these guys have bad eyes. 120 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 5: At the second level, you know your offensive line is 121 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 5: only going to be as strong as your center. I 122 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,119 Speaker 5: mean in everything run or pass. Like, are you firm 123 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 5: in pass protection? Last week You're going up against Zack 124 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 5: Steeler Benito Jones at Kalais Campbell and they the pocket 125 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 5: was firm, Aaron was able to get to a second 126 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 5: and third read quite frequently. You're as strong on the 127 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 5: offensive line as your center, and so I think Tipman's 128 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 5: ability right now identify the strengths, okay, the linebackers, all 129 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 5: that kind of stuff. I think it's becoming second nature. 130 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 5: And now that's the question of just working with the 131 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 5: guys next year. If you're a Tucker on one side, 132 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 5: Simpson on the other, because you're gonna do everything as 133 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 5: a group. You know, whether it's ceiling the backside, cutting 134 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 5: off your defense, getting to the second level, all those 135 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 5: things are sort of executed starting with your saying. 136 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 6: And I think it's gonna be huge for AVT just 137 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 6: to finish the year after what he's been through the 138 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 6: last couple of years as far as injuries shelving him, 139 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 6: don't don't you think that way? 140 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tough, right And as a guy that I 141 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 2: thought was one of the most talent to you know, players, 142 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 2: and he showed his ability much like you know, showed 143 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 2: the same things that Ol showed. 144 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 3: He showed he can play. 145 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 2: Right tackle, left tackle, right guard, left guard, and but 146 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 2: he didn't have the opportunity to really settle in for 147 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 2: one position and the setbacks from the injuries. I'm think 148 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 2: it'd be a good thing for him mentally to know 149 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 2: that he can, you know, start a season and finish 150 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 2: the season. 151 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 3: And he's starting to see the old A v. T. 152 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 2: You talked about that touchdown run that you broke down 153 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 2: when ABT got up to the lego level when he 154 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,799 Speaker 2: got that linebacker and you know that was that block 155 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 2: that was you know, very important. 156 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 3: You know, to the success of that run. 157 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 2: And we'll see, like you know, I know, some decisions 158 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 2: has to be made and has he shown enough to 159 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 2: this organization to to invest in him long term. You know, 160 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 2: that's something that only you know, the organizations has to 161 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 2: go through and process. 162 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 3: But when he hits the open. 163 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 2: Market, you know he's going to be able to play 164 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 2: at multiple positions to be able to help a team, 165 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 2: and he's really improved his value because of his versatility. 166 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 5: I just remember Bart like for myself, I had some 167 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 5: injuries in the middle of my career, but early on 168 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 5: and later on I was able to stay healthy. Like, 169 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 5: it just doesn't matter. The season is the season. It's 170 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 5: a disappointing season, but individually you always have to evaluate yourself. Yeah, 171 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 5: if you can play seventeen games in this business right 172 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,119 Speaker 5: now and you can start stacking those, then you start 173 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 5: building a career longevity. And I think it's just huge 174 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 5: for ABT the last month to finish out, play all 175 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 5: the snaps, play all the games, and just mentally go 176 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 5: into the off season healthy for the first time in 177 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 5: a long time. 178 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 4: How about the stable running backs here a pre solid and. 179 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 6: Play last week we saw Isaiah Davis getting the end 180 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 6: zone on the ground for the first time. The previous 181 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 6: week he got into the end zone with the receiving touchdown. 182 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 6: Brayln Allen continues to make very critical plays and I 183 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 6: thought that was just a big step overall for those 184 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 6: two being the guys with haul out of the lineup, 185 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 6: just dealing with the knie on. 186 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 2: Us and two rookies, right, I said, I'm only going 187 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 2: to get better, and it's important for them to get 188 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 2: some runs. And started to see the field, started to 189 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 2: be able to read defensive refronts, understand how to set 190 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 2: up linebackers, understand pass protections, knowing how to when when 191 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 2: when blocking you know, knowing how to chip out and 192 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 2: make yourself available for you for your quarterback and be 193 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 2: able to make plays. And it felt like, you know, 194 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 2: Isaiah Davis especially had a great knack for being able 195 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 2: to make itself friendly for Aaron Rodgers once he got 196 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 2: in trouble, a lot of those you know, three hour 197 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 2: passes turned into five yard games or six hour games 198 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 2: simply because he got north and south. But he made 199 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 2: itself available finding holes in the defense. And that's important. 200 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 2: That's the game now, moving the chains, moving the sticks. 201 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 6: He is a key conversion on the fourth and two 202 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 6: that set up a score. And then early in the 203 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 6: game in the last couple of weeks, the Jets have 204 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 6: thrown the ball to Allen out of the backfield. 205 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 5: Well, you want to establish the ability to be a 206 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 5: three down back and stay on the field, and what 207 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 5: we saw last week against Miami was the ability for 208 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 5: both of them to be interchangeable. So protection is important. 209 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,079 Speaker 5: If you're the one back, you got four out right 210 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 5: there to be able to protect and be able to 211 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 5: read the blitzers that are coming. Some teams do it 212 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 5: more frequently the other mugging a gaps going up there, 213 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 5: you know with stony guys, but you know, look to 214 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 5: be able to finish your runs like Isaiah did for 215 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 5: his first touchdown run. To be able to be the 216 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 5: safety valve in the passing game, the screen game, all 217 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 5: those things. They're both showing that ability in real time 218 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 5: end games to be able to do all those things. 219 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 6: And alas one hundred percent and the third and shorts 220 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 6: and the fourth and shorts, and they had the direct 221 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 6: snap there too. And listen, if you're hitting, if you're 222 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 6: meeting him in a hole, it's gonna be a tough tackle. 223 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 2: And call it the muscle push. Who needs the touch push? 224 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 2: We got We got Stony Johnson back there. You know, 225 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 2: I mean built like granted, and I mean you talk 226 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 2: about his physicality, and that's what I love about it, 227 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 2: right because it feels like, you know, breeze even though 228 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 2: he's a bigger back as more of a smooth, airing 229 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 2: falter type of back, and you feel like, now we're 230 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 2: Brandon Allen. You have that down hill you know, hard 231 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 2: to tackle, physical back, you know. 232 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 3: Don't want to stand on the train tracks and the 233 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 3: train's going through. 234 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 2: And then you talk about you know, Isaiah Davis who 235 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 2: was a bigger back but can run behind his past 236 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 2: but offers you some of the same elements of with 237 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 2: some of the elements of Brailan as well. I think 238 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 2: that's a great blend because you want different styles, because 239 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 2: different type of defenses requires different types of styles. I 240 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 2: think that you know, they have a great assortment of 241 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 2: young talent that you know, running backs that they can 242 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 2: go to and say, okay, well this is better for 243 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 2: this week, this is better for that week. 244 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 3: You know. 245 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 2: The problem is when you have so much talent making 246 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 2: sure that you don't, you know, try and get all 247 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 2: the talent all the time, when you need to get 248 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 2: some of these guys in a. 249 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 3: Rhythm and the groove. 250 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 2: But you feel confident that if anybody gets hurt, the 251 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 2: next man up is really not just word Salid who 252 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 2: we believe that they can come up and play at 253 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 2: a high level. 254 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:35,079 Speaker 5: Baldy. 255 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 6: Jalen Ramsey is a very good player. He's been a 256 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 6: very good player in the league for a long time. 257 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 6: But he had a tough assignment last week and Carrett Wilson, Yeah, 258 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 6: and Wilson got after him. 259 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 5: He schooled them. He schooled him on two different occasions, 260 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 5: one on a double move on the outside and one 261 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 5: like you beat him right off the release, you know. 262 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 5: And Jalen has been known to follow guys. He likes 263 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 5: that star position when you're in the slot. He's played 264 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 5: that position. He's played on the number one defensive football 265 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 5: when he was with the Rams, he played on the 266 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 5: number two defense when he was a Jacksonville. He's used 267 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 5: to playing on good defenses. And Garrett took him to school, 268 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 5: you know. And honestly, that's how you know. If you're 269 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 5: putting a highlight take together for Garrett Wilson this year, 270 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 5: you're showing both those plays against Jaleen Ramsey. 271 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 3: Styles make fights. 272 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 2: Like I'm telling his suddenness is second to none, and 273 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 2: I wouldn't you know, I'd be remis to say, hey, 274 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 2: he probably is looking at some of Devonte Adams creative 275 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 2: releases and learning something too, So that's able to ask 276 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 2: him twos to your tool box, because Devanta Adams has 277 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 2: on the most creative you know releases that times up 278 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 2: with certain routes depending on how he's getting played, really 279 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 2: comes off that jelly s fid and then he comes 280 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 2: out and runs the slam for different ways and you 281 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 2: know if you take the inside away, So I'm sure 282 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 2: he's he's learning some stuff and it's good to have 283 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:51,479 Speaker 2: that type of role model, you know, type of of relationship. 284 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 2: It's important, you know, I know I had Ed Hartwell, 285 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 2: I have Bernardo Harris old lunch. 286 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 5: You know, he was a Jefferson Helps too. Yeah exactly, Yeah, 287 00:11:58,040 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 5: you know wide receiver coach. 288 00:11:59,280 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 3: All right. 289 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 6: So his style to somebody who maybe previously played or 290 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 6: is in the game, right, is he very unique? 291 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 5: Garrett. 292 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 3: He wanted to throw me to Ali because he knows 293 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 3: what I then say. 294 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 2: You know, like when I first saw him, and maybe 295 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 2: it's Ohio State thing, but I saw Santonio Holmes, you know, 296 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 2: I mean Santonio remember the games that he won for 297 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 2: US on slants and Santonio was a guy that was 298 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 2: so quick and you know his runs after the catch. 299 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 2: But also he was a guy that even with being 300 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 2: a guy that's you know, quick and can make you 301 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 2: miss at the line of scrimmage. 302 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 3: He was a vertical threat too. 303 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 2: It's rare because usually one of the other but Santonio, 304 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 2: you know, vertical route but also a guy that can 305 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 2: kill you with the intermediate routes as well, tremendous route runner. 306 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 2: I would say Garrett is making a name for us 307 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 2: so pretty early. You know right now that I think 308 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,599 Speaker 2: the champ that is the best route runner in the 309 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 2: in the league, it's Kenan Allen. I think everybody accepts that. 310 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 2: It's not because he's a fast eye, he's just super crafty. 311 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 2: He's just some guy's just as great at it. But 312 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:55,839 Speaker 2: I think Garrett is making a name for it. 313 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 5: Something. 314 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: You also mentioned Antonio Browns, because. 315 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 2: Remember Antonio brown learned from Antonio Holmes and then about these 316 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 2: guys that are really quick but stronger than what you think. 317 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 2: And when Garrett, I think Garrett he puts about eight 318 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 2: pounds on, about eight pounds on, he'll be able to 319 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 2: run through some more of this pressure when guys will 320 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 2: try to put their hands on. When I say eight pounds, 321 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 2: I think the eight pounds are just for practical Tan 322 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 2: because he's one of these guys that are Yeah, it's 323 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 2: long and strong, and now you got to pull pull 324 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 2: a little bit more. Peckatuice, a little cretane to the 325 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 2: to the chest. 326 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 3: Play will hurt. He's still doing Christian. I never did cretane. 327 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 3: That's a problem. It was funny. 328 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 2: I remember when I went to the Michigan camp, like 329 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 2: coach gettleson and all that stuff, and I'm looking at 330 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 2: all these guys that Larry foot over here, you got 331 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 2: Josh throwing, all these guys that eventually played the league, 332 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 2: and we get out of the two twenty five and they. 333 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 3: Just yeah, I'm like, yo, what the heck? What's going 334 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 3: I get out of there? 335 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 2: Man, when you talk about you thought you have you 336 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 2: know how people to work? Yeah, all these girls pork. 337 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 2: That's how I look trying to get up. 338 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 5: I was perky. 339 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 3: That thing was shaking. 340 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 5: After how a minute. Some guys aren't weightlifters, man, Some 341 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 5: guys aren't weightlifters. 342 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 2: But I never knew that these guys are strictly cretin. 343 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 2: They've been taking creatave for three four years. I'm always 344 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 2: a guy that finds out stuff after the fight, fact, 345 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 2: right right, Like I remember when Ry them had the 346 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 2: deer Antlers who knew that you should have been taking 347 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:16,559 Speaker 2: dear Antler before they banned it. 348 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 4: Right, I'm a big believe in creditive. 349 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 3: And listen, so listen. 350 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 5: They're just building amino acids for team like that. 351 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 3: Didn't do stuff. 352 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 2: I didn't know anything about it, really, I've got the 353 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 2: other day. Oh I never knew about adderall in college. 354 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sitting up there actually studying. 355 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 5: I didn't even drink a cup of coffee in college. 356 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 5: I didn't know that tiff he keep you up. I 357 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 5: hadn't had a couple of college. 358 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 3: From You don't get a lot of information at D 359 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 3: one double A. 360 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 2: That is just how I let you know. But these 361 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 2: guys were lifting their ass off, and I'm like, why 362 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 2: am I so weak? And I'm but they balanced out. 363 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 5: But yeah, I learned early on in my career. Start 364 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 5: looking at the lockers or some of the ve players. 365 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 5: See what was in there, you know, like sometimes they 366 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 5: had the jars hidden. Yeah, a different, different substance than 367 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 5: the jar of the time, the jar place. 368 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 6: You're an NFL film and then you're an NFL network 369 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 6: on the coast. Then you're calling games and the Sundays 370 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 6: and then you're doing film as soon as the game 371 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 6: so over, Like you're talking about this weekend, you got 372 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 6: the Chargers and Chargers book said he's gonna walk across 373 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 6: the street until the network start watching the one o'clock 374 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 6: So what keeps you going? 375 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 4: Uh, like you just had your coffee, right, yeah? 376 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, but honestly, here the thing, I still get my sleep, yeah, 377 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 5: like I'm not. I'm not going to work the next 378 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 5: day without six hours. Like if I get seven, great, 379 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 5: but I'm gonna get six. I used to cheat it 380 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 5: and try to go like some of these coaches roper hours. Mentally, 381 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 5: you start breaking down, you start stumping down and making mistakes. 382 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 5: It's not worth it all. 383 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 4: But after you're in the gym, what's in the choice. 384 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 3: Uses you? 385 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 4: Bus, it's still getting after it. 386 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 5: Well, I'm still getting my vitamin D. Yeah, like vitamin 387 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 5: D like basic vitamins. Right, but when you get that 388 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 5: down in Florida, Yeah, I get the sun, get that, 389 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 5: you know. But like honestly, like at this stage of 390 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 5: my life, like I'm not trying to send any records, 391 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 5: I'm just trying to like maintain what I got at. 392 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 3: That muscle man. 393 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's when you say the older people that what 394 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 2: happens is they lose their ability to retain muscles. So 395 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 2: you gotta keep that protein up. So for me, I 396 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 2: just take plant based protein OA. 397 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 7: The Official Jets Podcast is presented by Kendra Scott, the 398 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 7: jewelry company that's shining bright and doing good. Shop Game 399 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 7: Day Ready, Jewelry Styles and so much more at kendrascott 400 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 7: dot com. 401 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 6: All right, Jamie Sherwood eighteen Texles Yes against the Doll 402 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 6: thirteen solo, Yeah, all over the place. 403 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. 404 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 5: CJ. 405 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 6: Mosley unfortunately, but a tough year for him. 406 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 4: He's an injury reserve. 407 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: Probably speak to Sherwood's development. 408 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 2: I mean you talk about, you know, the experiment, because 409 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 2: he wasn't the only safety that you got drafted that 410 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 2: you try to convert off. 411 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 5: You get there. 412 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 4: It was like a bunch of Noril Dean. 413 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, nas the Dane, right, you know, like Sherwood 414 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 2: stayed the course. You know, you talk about Ubrick, you 415 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 2: talk about the Jets, you know, seeing the talent and 416 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 2: believing in it. Understand that he had to grow into 417 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 2: his body. Then once that you know, settles in, then 418 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 2: you have to learn how to get your eyes right. 419 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 2: There's a different perspective from safety. 420 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 3: You know I've done that. 421 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 2: Being back there twelve yards is different when everything clears out. 422 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 2: Then when the closer you are, the more you see 423 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 2: and the more anxious you get with all the movement 424 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 2: guards and pulling in all the eye salad that comes out. 425 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 2: I thought he settled in. He settled in just in time. Right. 426 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 2: It's kind of like how my career was. I played 427 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 2: especialist for my first three years. Ray Lewis got hurt 428 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 2: in this scenario. T J Mosy is the guy that 429 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 2: got hurt, and you know it allowed him to get 430 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 2: a greater opportunity and not have the fear that if 431 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 2: I mess up that I'm. 432 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 3: Going to be replaced and I'm gonna be on a bench. 433 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 2: Like hey, he's gonna have to go through his lumps, 434 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,479 Speaker 2: and he made some mistakes early on in the season, 435 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 2: but now like it's starting to slow down and settle 436 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 2: down for him. 437 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 3: It's a beautiful thing. 438 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:52,880 Speaker 2: And it couldn't be perfect timing for him as he's 439 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 2: a free agency he'll coming up. 440 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 3: So I mean, you see what he's done. 441 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 2: He's going to put the pressure on the Jets to 442 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 2: make sure the day down and if you do that, 443 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 2: you have two of the most athletic physically gifted with 444 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 2: him and Quincy right right linebackers in the game. You 445 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 2: talk about, you know, team speed, you can never have 446 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 2: enough of it. But it's tough to have team speed 447 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 2: and still have physicality. And I think the next part 448 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 2: of his game is for him to learn how to 449 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 2: be at an anchor when he has to, because the 450 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 2: what teams are going to do is say, okay, listen, 451 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 2: we're not going to run away from because over here 452 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 2: hunching down, we're gonna run right at him. 453 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:26,679 Speaker 5: Well, I saw him down the goal line. Just smash 454 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 5: an offensive tackle, make the tackle. The thing that impresses 455 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 5: me Bart is to tell you know he knows his 456 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:34,479 Speaker 5: stuff right now, Like he's calling all the signals, he's 457 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 5: getting guys lined up in front of them, like he's 458 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:41,439 Speaker 5: like you. It's almost like like if you listen to quarterbacks, 459 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 5: quarterbacks that are confident are loud like they they because 460 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 5: everybody has to hear them. But they're confident in what 461 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 5: they're saying over communicators. They're over communicators. And I think, 462 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 5: like you watch him, he's talking to his safeties, he's 463 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 5: talking to Quincy, he's talking the defensive lineman in front 464 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 5: of him, like he's getting guys lined up in the 465 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 5: right spots pre snap, and he looks very very adept 466 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 5: at doing that. 467 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 6: Right now, Paul, you got har out at ten Well, 468 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 6: I'm not going to reveal the time here because we're 469 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 6: taping the podcast. 470 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 3: Oh, I want to. 471 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 4: Get your final thaws before you go. 472 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 5: Yeah. 473 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 6: On this weekend's matchup, Jets Jaguars, two teams that have 474 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 6: frankly lost a lot of close games this season, but 475 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 6: Jaguars playing a backup quarterback and their defense thirty second 476 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:29,959 Speaker 6: in the National Football League thirty second intern yards per pass. 477 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 5: Well, I mean, look, they they've broke it down a lot, 478 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,439 Speaker 5: you know, and they did it in a lot of 479 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 5: different ways. It could be coverage goes you make. If 480 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 5: you blow coverages on the back end, you give up touchdowns. 481 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 5: And they've done a lot of that this year. And 482 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 5: so they had a new defense coordinator, a lot of 483 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 5: changes at linebacker and you know, on the corner this year. 484 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 5: So it's led to a lot of it. But you know, 485 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 5: this is a team that honestly, they found a way 486 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 5: to win a game, you know, close game against Tennessee 487 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 5: last week so they feel pretty good. They maybe they 488 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 5: feel like they're turning the corner, but like, honestly, like 489 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 5: stets don't even matter at this point. Yeah, Like, go 490 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 5: down there and play a good football game. Finish the game, 491 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 5: because the Jets have played a lot of good games. 492 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 5: They haven't finished. They haven't finished three weeks in a row. 493 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 5: With the chance to win against Indianapolis, like you got 494 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 5: a chance to win, Like, finish the game, all three phases. 495 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 5: Get off the field and you're in defense, go down 496 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 5: and score, you know when you got the ball, Like 497 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 5: the Jets had a chance go down to beat Seattle. 498 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 5: Just go score the touchdown. Finish it. Yeah, you stop 499 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 5: making mistakes that prevent you from finishing it. They did 500 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 5: it again last week, So just clean the mistakes up. 501 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 5: The talent is there, and I think it's time to 502 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,199 Speaker 5: go get out of playing after win and enjoy a 503 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 5: good ride home for a change. 504 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 4: We'll go get in your car. 505 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 6: I know you're finished, all right, Pudi's out, but we're 506 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 6: gonna finish with you. 507 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 3: Yeah. 508 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: What do you see from the offense last week? 509 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 4: More than four hundred yards. 510 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 6: They doubled the Dolphins in rushing, zero turnovers, twenty six points. 511 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers continues to talk about thirty points right, and 512 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 6: they didn't get the thirty last week. But I thought 513 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 6: the offense looked probably as good as it has in 514 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 6: twenty twenty four. 515 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 2: I mean, I hate to be the drum dead drum, 516 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 2: but I think the diition of Olu because you saw him, 517 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers going down the field with the football because 518 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:16,640 Speaker 2: he didn't get immediate pressure. 519 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 3: I think they had the same thing last week. 520 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,360 Speaker 2: But then when you know Moses Morgan went out, then 521 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 2: he had instant pressure from the other side. You know, 522 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 2: when Aaron is comfortable in the pocket and he believes 523 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 2: that he's his blind size are protected, he'll stand the 524 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 2: pocket more and he'll step up and step on And 525 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 2: you saw a little bit of the health coming back 526 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 2: because he was able to lose some rushes and get 527 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 2: out and that's able to stretch the field. 528 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 3: You know, football is about being able. 529 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 2: To put your best players in space, and when you 530 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 2: have a great protection, it allows you to create space vertically. 531 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 2: You always have, you know space, you know horizontally because 532 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 2: you have fifty three yards, but it's tough sometimes if 533 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 2: you don't have the time, you can't stretch it vertically, 534 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 2: and when you have your blind side protected, you have 535 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 2: an opportunity to do that, which opens everything else up 536 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 2: because then it's a butterfly effect because then now you 537 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 2: have space to run the football because now they they're 538 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 2: they're they're protecting vertically, they're protecting the field vertically. So 539 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 2: it creates that space for running the football, which then 540 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:19,120 Speaker 2: creates more space because it creates play action pass behind 541 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 2: the linebackers in front of the safety space. So I think, 542 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 2: you know it's it's I don't want to overstate it 543 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 2: or understate it either, you know, I think Olu, you know, 544 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 2: solidifies his offensive line. 545 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 6: I'm gonna cause trouble for myself by saying that. 546 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: I watched that game and wonder what might. 547 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 3: Have been, because you know, you can't do that. 548 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 6: You got Carrot out there, you got Davante out there, 549 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 6: You finally got Lazard back in the lineup. 550 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 2: Lazar was key, right, He was more key than people 551 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 2: realize because he's one of the upper echeline blockers. And 552 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 2: if you want anybody that watches the Los. 553 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 1: Angeles, yeah, break this down to Tom why Lizards. 554 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 2: Is so important to the equation. But see, he's second 555 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 2: level blocking right. And he's not just second level blocking 556 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 2: the cornerbacks. He's second level blocking the safeties which are 557 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 2: designed to come into the box and be enforcers, and 558 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 2: he's able to nullify them, which creates tremendous run lanes. 559 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 2: And so you know, it's not an overstatement to say, hey, 560 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 2: once he came back, now look at the yards per carry, right, 561 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 2: because now you don't have extra guys in the box. 562 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,120 Speaker 3: Those guys get in the box, they get taken out 563 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 3: by Alan Lazard. So you know, I think you know 564 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:38,880 Speaker 3: he's more key than what you think. 565 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 2: And if you want to know how important receivers are 566 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 2: the running games, I just want anybody here to watch 567 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Rams and watch what Poop and the 568 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 2: Core and Cooper Cup does. It's really great to watch. 569 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,679 Speaker 2: And if you talk about when we were in our 570 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 2: hey day and upper echelon at the run game, it 571 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:59,360 Speaker 2: was because Braylen Braylan Netwards is up there choke slamming people. 572 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 4: Chokes slaving people. 573 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 6: Listen, both Garrett and DeVante go over one hundred yards 574 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 6: and you're seeing teams. Now, Okay, in Miami's case, they 575 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 6: put their best corner back. 576 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:16,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, Garrett, we were wondering last week wasn't gonna be Garrette. 577 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 3: So it's usually what you do, right. 578 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 2: You usually take the best guy, you double them, and 579 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 2: then you take your you know, you take you take 580 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 2: the best receiver, you double him with maybe your second 581 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 2: best corner, and because he's been double so he has help. 582 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 3: Then you take your absolute lockdown corner. 583 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 2: You put them on what you think is too saying 584 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 2: you're number one to be able to stop their number 585 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 2: two not so fast. Yeah, yeah, exactly, and that and 586 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 2: that's the mistake. And that's what the beauty of Devanta 587 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 2: as and why he's important to maintain because he allows 588 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 2: you not to be able to have your number one 589 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 2: receiver taken away because you have two number one receivers 590 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 2: and if you want to go, you have to pick 591 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 2: your poison. Now, I think you know, next year, you know, 592 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 2: they really get some more force action from the tight 593 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 2: end position. 594 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 3: You know. 595 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 2: So if if I was making a wish list for 596 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 2: for for the Jets, especially on the offensive side, I 597 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 2: would say I don't have but this is a little 598 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:13,360 Speaker 2: early for all asking Chris Kringle, Hey, he can give 599 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 2: it to his this year. 600 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 3: I always love I really love you boy. 601 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 2: I think he's a great h back and if he 602 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 2: can develop into like that fullback position, you know what 603 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 2: I mean. 604 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 3: I think you know he has to embrace that. 605 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 2: You got to show him some Kyle, you checked some 606 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 2: Ingle type of tape and say you can be both. 607 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 2: You can be a tight end and you can be 608 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 2: you know, you can be a fullback as well. 609 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 6: All right, So defensively, Miami two is not sacked, right, 610 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 6: and I think they hit the Jets up with thirteenth screens. 611 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 6: So this is a copycat leak absolutely, Jacksonville, I got 612 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:46,640 Speaker 6: mac Jones back there. 613 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's not a mobile court. 614 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 6: Right, So so what do you anticipate from them after 615 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 6: watching the way Miami attacks Because not a lot of 616 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 6: people have Miami's weaponry. 617 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 3: They don't have the team speak to to to duplicate that. 618 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 2: They have to try and win a different way where 619 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 2: they have some screens in that that best fits their personnel. Yes, 620 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 2: but I just can't see them being able to drop 621 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,439 Speaker 2: back and do all these fast tunnel screens and all 622 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 2: that stuff. I thought I was watching Chan gaily again, 623 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 2: But all these damn tunnel screens to a Chan coming 624 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 2: through the middle, what we call middle screens yeah, you 625 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:16,199 Speaker 2: call it that, yo. 626 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 6: We broke that down for Jets game day before and 627 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 6: we were talking about it Sunday here before our postgame 628 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 6: shows there were on the same thing. 629 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 3: That's just changing. Get these middle screens. 630 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, you set the guys up, especially when you 631 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 2: got man and man covers, and you set them up, 632 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 2: and you set your blocks up and you come back underneath. 633 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 3: They have to respect the outside of come underneath. 634 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 2: So I can see actually see the Jets getting some 635 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 2: of that, trying to figure it out. 636 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 3: But I think they don't. You know, Mac Jones. 637 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 2: Doesn't throw it with the anticipation and the timing and 638 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 2: touch of tool, which is a big part of why 639 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 2: you're able to get through those those tunnel screens. 640 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 6: It's time for the Jets to beat Mac Jones. He's 641 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 6: five and all against them. Obviously made those stats starts 642 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 6: when he was in New England. But I go back 643 00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 6: to twenty twenty two, the Jets sect him twelve times, 644 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,360 Speaker 6: six times in each. 645 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 4: Game against so he will hold on to the ball. Now, birthday, baby, 646 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 4: you're gonna have some opportunities. 647 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 2: Now, I'll tell you what. It's gonna be a great matchup. 648 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 2: Sauces going to have to knowify Brian Thomas because he's 649 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 2: a beast. He's a ward daddy now and but but 650 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 2: I do like it because he offers a lot of 651 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 2: the same physicality and speed the DK Metcalf does. And 652 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,159 Speaker 2: you know, the bigger guys sometimes is easier for a 653 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 2: guy that's long like Sauce because he can use his 654 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,880 Speaker 2: limp and his size to stop them from getting started. 655 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:31,120 Speaker 3: Do you see the. 656 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 1: Jets scoring thirty plus this week? 657 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 4: Because I do, of course, I really do. 658 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 3: The season, they're on the cusp. 659 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, Aaron Rodgers first time in a long 660 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 2: time over three hundred yards. I think, you know, they're 661 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,959 Speaker 2: starting to hit their stride and figure things out. And 662 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 2: you know, I thought last week the game plan was 663 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 2: perfect being able to it was a lot more motions 664 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 2: and shifts, and I thought, you know, it created spacing 665 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 2: opportunities for God to get up the field without having 666 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 2: to be you know, jammed is lime. 667 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 3: Scrimmage could be back to. 668 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 6: Back games for Aaron with three hundred yards passing, because 669 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 6: everybody's talking about that forever. 670 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 4: That was thirty four starts entering. 671 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 3: Yeah last week. 672 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:10,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's important, Yeah, it's important. 673 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 2: It's important that he establishes some dominance and some rhythm 674 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 2: so that he can show the people what it could be. 675 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, and then after this game next week, we'll be 676 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 6: talking about the matchup at home December twenty second against 677 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 6: the Rams. 678 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,880 Speaker 2: I'll tell you that Rams offense coming, that's sut, that's Buffalo. 679 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 6: That that Rams offense is dynamic. Talk about receivers getting 680 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 6: after you. And then you have McVeigh calling the plays 681 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 6: and we got playing. 682 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 3: You got Pooka with eighty nine yards rushing. 683 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, not even to talk about the yards receiving, right, yeah, yeah, 684 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 2: one sixty receiving. Yeah, he's quickly becoming. You talk about 685 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 2: a team with two number ones at receiver, well, here 686 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:50,719 Speaker 2: you go, Jets, Yep, here we go. 687 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 6: But first things first, as they say, that's Jets Jaguars 688 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 6: this week, and the Jets are acle me to the 689 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 6: heat after what happened in South Florida last week. 690 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 4: We'll be fine, axim, melf, you. 691 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 3: Gotta be fine. 692 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 4: They're winning this game. 693 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 3: They better 694 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 6: M hm