WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Who Wins Round 2? 0:00:09.240 --> 0:00:11.760 The following He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:22.720 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys 0:00:23.160 --> 0:00:26.560 Screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the 0:00:26.640 --> 0:00:37.640 Star in Frisco's Got Tay and now your hosts Isaiah Stanback, 0:00:37.960 --> 0:00:43.360 heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips, and Kyle Yeomans. It is 0:00:43.440 --> 0:00:47.400 a Wednesday edition of Talking Cowboys here from the s 0:00:47.560 --> 0:00:52.520 WBNBC Mortgage studios at the Star in Frisco. Glad you're 0:00:52.520 --> 0:00:55.840 with us? And what is a actually a say It 0:00:55.880 --> 0:01:00.280 with your Chest Wednesday? Because normally we would have you know, 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:03.160 I say it with EA Chess Thursday or Friday. But 0:01:03.840 --> 0:01:05.640 some of you might be thinking, why is it a 0:01:05.720 --> 0:01:09.040 say It with EA Chess Wednesday? Because the game is 0:01:09.080 --> 0:01:12.640 still on Sunday. But we don't actually have a Talking 0:01:12.680 --> 0:01:16.880 Cowboys tomorrow. We have separated kind of joint podcast with 0:01:16.920 --> 0:01:19.640 the holidays coming up. So this is the last Talking 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:22.800 Cowboys of the week, which is unfortunate because I'm excited 0:01:22.840 --> 0:01:26.600 to talk with you guys about this Philadelphia and Cowboys game, 0:01:26.600 --> 0:01:29.559 which we're gonna preview here over the next forty five minutes. 0:01:29.640 --> 0:01:33.760 But heck Mo Harrison Rob Phillips, Isaiah stand back with you. 0:01:33.959 --> 0:01:37.000 I'm Kyle Yeomans and well, guys, we do have a 0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:40.280 lot to get to whenever it comes to this Cowboys 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:43.080 Eagles game. But first I just want to talk about 0:01:43.200 --> 0:01:46.120 how I'm sitting in a different chair because apparently somebody 0:01:46.120 --> 0:01:49.440 broke that microphone over there, and we have suspicions as 0:01:49.480 --> 0:01:53.000 to who broke this microphone. Rob, would you like a 0:01:53.000 --> 0:01:54.840 lot of cameras at that room? Kyle? Yeah, would you 0:01:54.880 --> 0:01:57.960 like to enlighten the world on your friend who might 0:01:57.960 --> 0:02:02.040 have broken the microphone? Could it be an older gentleman 0:02:02.080 --> 0:02:05.120 that used to uh kind of a flagship member of 0:02:05.160 --> 0:02:08.040 the show back in the day. I think possibly, Yeah, 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:12.520 that's the spial Ms. It's the suspicion that somebody broke 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:17.120 the microphone. Chris is not happy back there. No, No, 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:24.360 he's not. I doubt it's I think there's probably just 0:02:24.440 --> 0:02:26.720 something going on. But hey, if he broke it, and 0:02:27.000 --> 0:02:29.920 we'll just give him a lot more flak for breaking 0:02:29.919 --> 0:02:33.320 it later on. But uh, yeah, he's he's named after 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:38.720 a Disney character, um and a very famous one. Maybe 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:40.280 I don't know if that's actually what he's named after. 0:02:40.360 --> 0:02:42.480 He might be named after a famous baseball player that 0:02:42.560 --> 0:02:45.320 last named Mantle. But we'll see I might actually have 0:02:45.400 --> 0:02:51.839 that conversation with him. Yes, heckma, I'm just nothing man. 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:55.640 He's after famous Disney character. It's just like, God, well, 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:58.840 good morning morning, everybody loving the all black you got 0:02:58.919 --> 0:03:03.560 going on? Dark Night over there? Yeah, I probably need 0:03:03.560 --> 0:03:05.160 to take it off. It's kind of hot in this studio. 0:03:05.200 --> 0:03:10.160 But hey, what's that? I mean? I feel like we're 0:03:10.240 --> 0:03:12.880 one today, you know, because we're both wearing all black. Okay, 0:03:12.919 --> 0:03:15.119 that's fair. Okay, so let's go ahead and get into 0:03:15.120 --> 0:03:17.560 this Cowboys Eagles matchup because I feel like this conversation 0:03:17.600 --> 0:03:21.799 is going nowhere. But uh, Rob, whenever we wanted, hey, 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:23.760 we wanted to talk about something else, but we only 0:03:23.760 --> 0:03:25.679 have one more show, so we couldn't. I don't know 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:28.160 if we can pack in everything that we want to 0:03:28.160 --> 0:03:31.200 talk about. I know that it's kind of the sad part. 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:33.080 Now we'll put it in the say it with Chess 0:03:33.080 --> 0:03:37.720 Wednesday coming up later in the show. But whenever it 0:03:37.760 --> 0:03:41.080 comes to this Cowboys Eagles matchup, usually we'll break it up. 0:03:41.120 --> 0:03:43.920 But we're gonna go Cowboys ZO versus Eagles d In 0:03:43.920 --> 0:03:45.800 the second segment, but right now we're gonna look at 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:50.120 this Cowboys or this Eagles offense and versus the Cowboys defense. 0:03:50.200 --> 0:03:53.440 And uh Isaiah, I know you had talked in film 0:03:53.520 --> 0:03:55.920 room yesterday and you've talked throughout the week about Jalen 0:03:56.080 --> 0:03:59.160 Hurtz and the pressure that he's gonna put on this 0:03:59.240 --> 0:04:02.600 Cowboys d fence to get things right the first time. 0:04:03.240 --> 0:04:05.680 How important is it for this Cowboys team to kind 0:04:05.720 --> 0:04:08.600 of find a rhythm whenever it comes to reading the 0:04:08.600 --> 0:04:11.000 football out of the backfield with Jalen Hurts because he 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:13.800 present presents a threat with his legs, but all of 0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:15.800 a sudden he can turn around and he can throw 0:04:15.840 --> 0:04:20.799 the rock as well. Yeah, we have to be strongest 0:04:20.800 --> 0:04:23.600 where we haven't been very strong this year, and an 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:26.800 incidant It comes into form being disciplined. We haven't been 0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:30.239 very disciplined this year, and I think against this quarterbacks 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:32.919 he's a smart dude. Man, he's a smart dude anyway. 0:04:33.120 --> 0:04:34.640 You know, we did allude to the fact that he 0:04:34.960 --> 0:04:37.800 has obviously that go juice. He's strongest. Crap. I don't 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:39.599 remember if everybody I don't know if everybody remembers that 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:42.280 he's a pretty strong fellow. He used to be a powerlifter, 0:04:42.440 --> 0:04:44.400 so he likes the weight room and they don't have 0:04:44.440 --> 0:04:46.719 a problem running his own reading with him and coming downhill. 0:04:47.040 --> 0:04:49.320 But more than anything, I think right now, he's probably 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:51.720 more dangerous as a passer. He has it, he has 0:04:51.720 --> 0:04:54.520 his weapons, he has his tight ends that he loves 0:04:54.520 --> 0:04:56.800 to get the ball to, and who typically sticks tight 0:04:56.920 --> 0:05:00.359 ends safeties and linebackers. Yeah, so there's not not our 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:02.760 strongest part of our of our of our defense that 0:05:02.839 --> 0:05:05.400 has to guard these guys. Um, he's a problem. Man, 0:05:05.440 --> 0:05:07.080 He's a problem. And I just think more than anything, 0:05:07.120 --> 0:05:09.240 we're just disciplined of guys continue to be where they're 0:05:09.240 --> 0:05:11.040 supposed to be. But I think we'll have a we'll 0:05:11.080 --> 0:05:12.760 have a fighting chance, but we're gonna have to be 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:19.280 at our a game now. I want to tell all 0:05:19.320 --> 0:05:22.400 of us, everybody, man, y'all need to go and watch 0:05:22.440 --> 0:05:26.160 this film study with Kyle and Isaiah's excellent and just 0:05:26.400 --> 0:05:30.760 drawing up what the challenges will be for the Cowboys defense. 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:34.719 And Isaiah, you're absolutely right about this about Jalen Hurts, 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:37.400 and you know, so many things come to mind when 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:40.039 you talk about a mobile quarterback, and you know, I'm 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:43.880 just having those Lamar Jackson flashbacks and when we were 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:48.000 playing in Baltimore, and you know, those coverage busts that 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:50.640 we had are just up front and letting him run 0:05:50.720 --> 0:05:53.400 for forty yards for a touchdown. We can't have those 0:05:53.520 --> 0:05:57.200 miscues because his strength, one of his strengths is his leg. 0:05:57.279 --> 0:06:00.320 But the difference is from him in a lot of 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:03.360 guys is he has an arm. And so a lot 0:06:03.440 --> 0:06:06.040 of teams like to say, when you have an athletic quarterback, 0:06:06.080 --> 0:06:09.040 you want to approach, you know, have take zone coverage 0:06:09.120 --> 0:06:12.440 right because have him throw into a zone. Well, he 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:16.520 likes the zone coverage and he's very comfortable when when 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:18.320 you are in zone. So if you try and go 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:20.760 man to man versus him, which is a big time 0:06:20.800 --> 0:06:23.320 no no. With an athletic quarterback, he does a read 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:25.920 option and with your cornerbacks have their back turn, he 0:06:26.000 --> 0:06:30.200 just runs by guys. So we have a challenge. And 0:06:30.440 --> 0:06:32.320 I think that one of the things that should give 0:06:32.360 --> 0:06:35.560 Cowboy fans, you know, comfort is the fact that defensively, 0:06:35.960 --> 0:06:39.159 we've gotten some of our miscues that we had in 0:06:39.200 --> 0:06:43.400 the past together in this communication and you you circled 0:06:43.440 --> 0:06:45.680 at it and talked about that in film study as well. 0:06:45.760 --> 0:06:49.120 Just simple things like passing off receivers when you have 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:51.359 when they go to bunch coverages, and you know that 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:54.239 the Eagles are going to present those challenges for our defense. 0:06:54.279 --> 0:06:57.200 So this is gonna be This is gonna be your 0:06:57.480 --> 0:07:00.920 classic NFC East, Right. I have a ree game, man, 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:07.200 I'm looking forward to this one. Man. Yeah, I know 0:07:07.240 --> 0:07:09.160 it's been two games, and I know there's probably some 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:11.920 fans out there that are skeptical of Jalen Hurts. Can 0:07:11.960 --> 0:07:14.200 he keep this up? Yeah? He can keep it up. 0:07:14.320 --> 0:07:17.360 I fully expect him. I fully expect him to be 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:19.600 the Eagles quarterback next year based on what I've seen, 0:07:19.840 --> 0:07:23.320 like just watching him for these two games. He looks 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:25.440 like a pro. He looks like a vet and that 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:28.000 is probably a credit to the programs he's played in 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:31.760 and just you know, his poise as a player. But 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:34.280 you guys kind of hit on it. He's got a 0:07:34.280 --> 0:07:36.200 couple of things working for him. He's got you know, 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:39.120 he's got some guys healthy back on offense, and they 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:41.920 are really dangerous in terms of their just overall speed. 0:07:42.320 --> 0:07:44.880 You know, you guys mentioned he's got an arm. He 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:47.440 can make throws, no question, But they're also putting him 0:07:47.480 --> 0:07:49.160 in some good spots. You know, they'll they'll run a 0:07:49.160 --> 0:07:53.080 lot of screens with rayger Quez, Watkins took took a 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:57.400 simple screen to the house thirty two yards out against 0:07:57.400 --> 0:08:00.240 Arizona last week with an all out blitz. That beat 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:03.640 you that way. They have good tight ends. Um, they 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:06.120 And that's like kind of what Isaiah heck you guys 0:08:06.120 --> 0:08:08.720 spoke about it. That's that worries me in this matchup 0:08:08.760 --> 0:08:10.880 because of what they can do to you in space 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:14.080 with some of their some of their skill guys. Miles 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:18.000 Uh Sanders, I'm sorry. Yeah, Sanders has really stepped up 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:21.360 his production lately. He's got some weapons around him, but 0:08:21.440 --> 0:08:23.880 he is just so poised back there. And and you 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:26.520 throw in the zone read with it. Man. They can 0:08:26.560 --> 0:08:28.080 beat you in a lot of different ways, like the 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:31.920 way they're playing offensively right now. Um, that's that's gonna 0:08:31.920 --> 0:08:34.720 be a huge challenge for for Dallas, for anybody right now. 0:08:35.400 --> 0:08:37.800 And Rob you and I wrote about this on Dallas 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:40.760 Cowboys dot Com yesterday in our big Picture article. But 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:44.400 things changed between Week eight and now for both teams. 0:08:44.480 --> 0:08:46.880 I mean, the first matchup was going to be completely 0:08:46.880 --> 0:08:49.920 different than what we're gonna see coming up. Here on Sunday. 0:08:49.960 --> 0:08:52.559 I mean not even close really, because one, you look 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:55.160 at Bend Nucci, a quarterback for the Cowboys, didn't have 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:57.840 Zach Martin in that game. Either, But you also, uh 0:08:58.280 --> 0:09:02.480 were basically down to your final count whenever it comes 0:09:02.480 --> 0:09:04.959 to an offensive line, and you saw that throughout then 0:09:04.960 --> 0:09:08.840 on Philadelphia's side, they had the majority of their offensive line, 0:09:08.840 --> 0:09:10.960 but they didn't have Miles Sanders. So the Cowboys haven't 0:09:10.960 --> 0:09:13.280 had to face Miles Sanders yet. And when you talk 0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:15.760 about the lack of run defense that the Cowboys have 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:18.400 shown this season, that's scary. I mean, that's something that 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:20.640 the Cowboys ultimately are going to have to deal with 0:09:20.960 --> 0:09:23.480 coming up on Sunday for the first time. So there 0:09:23.480 --> 0:09:26.079 are a lot of changes, But Rob, when you look 0:09:26.120 --> 0:09:29.600 at the differences between Weekgate and coming up on Sunday, 0:09:29.640 --> 0:09:32.040 which one sticks out to you the most as the 0:09:32.040 --> 0:09:35.080 biggest challenge for the Cowboys on either side of the football, 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:40.240 but most specifically on the defensive side for the Cowboys defense. Yeah, 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:44.679 Cowboys defense. I pitched that the wrong No, that's okay. 0:09:44.679 --> 0:09:46.719 I think Isaiah hit on it right off the top. 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:50.360 I mean, I think what they've struggled with is what 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:52.920 the Eagles do well and what they're really clicking on 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:56.520 right now. And the Cowboys, you know, I'm not trying to, 0:09:56.800 --> 0:09:58.679 you know, throw a wet blanket over what they've done 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:00.520 the last couple of games, because man, it's I mean, 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:03.960 seven takeaways is huge. Everybody's been begging them for them 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:06.840 to do. And you score forty one points off of that, 0:10:06.840 --> 0:10:09.239 that's how you win games. But they're still leaking yardage, 0:10:09.280 --> 0:10:12.080 they're still having the trouble stopping the run, and so 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:16.320 you know that, you know, if there's no latent Vanderesh, 0:10:16.320 --> 0:10:18.920 whether he's in or not, that's gonna be a huge 0:10:18.960 --> 0:10:21.840 challenge for the linebackers to be ready for some of 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:23.360 the things they want to do. Get the ball into 0:10:23.679 --> 0:10:25.840 into guy's hands and let them go run and make plays. 0:10:25.920 --> 0:10:28.600 Like the linebackers are going to be challenged latterly. And 0:10:29.080 --> 0:10:33.319 that to me hurts too. Just being a more accurate quarterback. 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:36.400 You know, Carson Wentz in that first meeting and this 0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:38.559 is the reason why he's not playing right now, just 0:10:38.600 --> 0:10:41.480 not accurate, just can't make simple throws. Jalen Hurts is 0:10:41.480 --> 0:10:43.840 making simple throws and he's making tough throws too. He's 0:10:43.840 --> 0:10:47.240 playing really really well so far. Yeah, I just go 0:10:47.320 --> 0:10:51.320 back to that last game last year when we had 0:10:51.400 --> 0:10:55.040 the title on the line in Philly and trying to 0:10:55.120 --> 0:10:59.440 have you know, Sean Lee cover Zach ernts down the scene. 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:02.840 It's just it was a nightmare. And here we are again. 0:11:02.840 --> 0:11:06.400 It's like days Ja Vu all over again. Lady vander 0:11:06.480 --> 0:11:09.359 esh is hurt. And who's gonna be in that linebacker? 0:11:09.440 --> 0:11:12.679 I know we have a Joe Thomas or Sean Lee, 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:15.120 but I think maybe they'll go with Sean Lee. But 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:17.320 that's a nightmare matchup for us. And I think of 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:19.880 all the matchups that you can you can look at 0:11:19.920 --> 0:11:22.640 on paper, that's the one that you really have that's 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:26.120 gonna keep these defensive coaches up at night because of 0:11:26.160 --> 0:11:30.600 what Zach Ernst can do us in that defense. We've suffered. 0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:34.760 We've we've suffered the tight ends all season, not only 0:11:34.800 --> 0:11:37.120 the run. I mean, even though those times that we've 0:11:37.400 --> 0:11:39.920 shut down the run, it's been the tight end that 0:11:40.000 --> 0:11:44.240 has really been our Achilles hill. And anytime any team 0:11:44.240 --> 0:11:47.160 sees us with our linebackers on their athletic tight ends, 0:11:47.200 --> 0:11:50.120 that's that's their focal point. He say that, say that 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:55.920 tight ends name again zach ertz ERTs, Okay, I thought 0:11:55.920 --> 0:11:57.360 there was an end in there. I thought you were 0:11:57.360 --> 0:12:01.920 saying Ernst ERNs. But I'm sorry. I just also, man, 0:12:01.960 --> 0:12:04.360 you know what I'm saying, changing shirts. I just wanted 0:12:04.360 --> 0:12:07.320 to I wanted to make sure that that's all it was. 0:12:08.040 --> 0:12:09.720 I say, what do you think is the biggest challenge 0:12:09.720 --> 0:12:17.440 for this cowboy's defense. I'm gonna go with the You 0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:20.760 you mentioned a rough draft, right, Uh? You mentioned you 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:22.200 mentioned you know that the first time we played in 0:12:22.360 --> 0:12:23.719 And I look at that as like a rough drat. 0:12:24.360 --> 0:12:26.520 I like you like you write you Yeah, you know, 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:28.160 you write your you write your little story. You know, 0:12:28.240 --> 0:12:29.800 you have your essay and you look at it and 0:12:29.840 --> 0:12:32.160 you're like, yeah, no, that's not it. You ball it 0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:33.760 up and you just rewrite the whole story. And that's 0:12:33.760 --> 0:12:36.560 exactly what's gonna happen this time. We play them. Two 0:12:36.600 --> 0:12:40.880 totally different teams, two totally different teams, two totally different energies. Um, 0:12:40.920 --> 0:12:43.439 coming into this game, you know they have they they're running. 0:12:43.440 --> 0:12:45.520 They're running off a hurt. I'm sorry, you got me over. 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:52.040 They're messing up now, heck, rolling off they have to. 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:54.280 They have a new found energy on the offensive side 0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:56.560 of the ball right with Jalen Hurts, and then we 0:12:56.640 --> 0:13:00.080 have a new found energy UM with our defense. And 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:03.000 it's like these two these these two team, two teams 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:06.240 coming together um and being dominant in two areas in 0:13:06.280 --> 0:13:08.360 which they weren't dominant and when the first time we met. 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:11.320 So I'm looking forward to seeing that matchup. I don't 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:15.160 like how we match up against them defensively, I just don't. 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:17.800 I think that we're at a disadvantage with those matchups. However, 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:20.360 on the flip side of things, if we could bring 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:23.160 the physicality to the game, I do. I do like 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:25.160 the fact I like our our odds on the offensive 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:27.480 side for us. So it's really gonna come down to 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:29.400 which team decides to show up and play some defense. 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:31.640 That's that's that's who's gonna win the game. And I 0:13:31.640 --> 0:13:33.839 know that sounds pretty cliche, but that's really the truth 0:13:33.840 --> 0:13:35.800 of the matter. I don't I don't think that either 0:13:35.840 --> 0:13:38.600 team can really stop each other. UM. So the team 0:13:38.600 --> 0:13:41.880 that does stop anybody, they're probably gonna win. We'll talk 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:44.120 about the Philadelphia defense here in a second, but I 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:46.560 think there's a better chance that the Philadelphia defense stops 0:13:46.559 --> 0:13:50.040 the Cowboys offense than the Cowboys defense stopping the Philly offense. 0:13:50.080 --> 0:13:52.640 And I really think this is this is where and 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:53.959 we'll talk about it here in a little bit, but 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:55.800 I want to stick on this real fast. Heckmon, but 0:13:55.920 --> 0:13:57.360 and we'll actually come to you. I want to come 0:13:57.360 --> 0:14:03.120 to you with this question. But whenever it looking at this, 0:14:03.280 --> 0:14:08.120 this Cowboys defense and up against this Philadelphia offense, this 0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:10.199 is where the game's gonna be won, right, I mean, 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:13.080 this is where your defense has to win you another game. 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:15.640 They did it last week against San Francisco. I mean 0:14:15.679 --> 0:14:18.400 your offense was pitter pattering, but I mean they took 0:14:18.400 --> 0:14:21.360 advantage of turnovers. Twenty four or forty one points came 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:24.120 off of turnovers. Your defense is gonna have to win 0:14:24.160 --> 0:14:26.680 you this game for the second straight week. Do you 0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:31.560 trust them to do that? ACMA, I do. And the 0:14:31.600 --> 0:14:35.240 reason I trusted is the way that Tank Lawrence is playing. 0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:38.720 And you talked about Isaiah and film study right getting home, 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:41.600 Guys getting home, and when you get home, what you 0:14:41.720 --> 0:14:46.760 do it create those turnovers. You know, not only Isaiah, 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:49.800 but Rob has talked about the turnover differential and those 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:52.640 are just things that makes the game so much easier 0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:55.280 for your offense when your defense can put you in 0:14:55.320 --> 0:14:59.280 a position to have a short field. We've seen how 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:03.560 that work for us in Cincinnati and also in our 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:06.640 game last week. Look, let's just make it. Let's repeat that. 0:15:06.800 --> 0:15:10.520 Let's have let's let's have our guys jump passes like 0:15:10.840 --> 0:15:14.040 you know Donald did last week, Anthony Brown did. Those 0:15:14.040 --> 0:15:16.640 turnovers make the game so much easier for us. And 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:18.840 if at some point in the game our running game 0:15:18.920 --> 0:15:21.920 or passing game isn't working, presenting our offense with a 0:15:21.960 --> 0:15:24.440 short field is definitely gonna give us a leg up. 0:15:25.080 --> 0:15:27.680 You know, to not only tank Lawrence, Randy Gregory, all 0:15:27.720 --> 0:15:30.239 of our guys up front have got to be aggressive 0:15:30.240 --> 0:15:32.760 in getting after Jalen Hurts. We have to be careful 0:15:33.000 --> 0:15:36.240 with him not to blitz him a whole lot, and 0:15:36.280 --> 0:15:38.720 we hadn't blitzed a whole lot anyway this year because 0:15:38.840 --> 0:15:40.800 what he'll do is just step up in the pocket 0:15:41.040 --> 0:15:43.880 and be gone. So we have to switch our defenses, 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:47.680 defensive coverages up blitz him sometime in those zone blitz games. 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:50.760 But we can't just sit back and wait and let 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:55.080 this rookie quarterback and his coach pick us apart. Rob Yeah, 0:15:55.120 --> 0:16:00.320 and he's not Yeah, he's hurts is not making dangerous. 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:02.480 You know, I don't know if the Cowboys can count 0:16:02.560 --> 0:16:04.680 on what Nick Mullins did just kind of serving it 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:07.680 up a couple of times a game, uh last last Sunday. 0:16:07.680 --> 0:16:09.000 Now he did put the ball on the ground I 0:16:09.000 --> 0:16:11.880 think three times against Arizona, and and that's you know 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:15.160 that that's gonna come with uh running him and running 0:16:15.160 --> 0:16:20.040 that zone read. But uh, you know, the Cowboys, what 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:22.440 they've tried to do and forcing takeaways has been big. 0:16:22.800 --> 0:16:24.800 But it's got to be more than that, you know, 0:16:24.880 --> 0:16:28.040 because like I mentioned the yardage, they can't continue to 0:16:28.120 --> 0:16:31.640 leak yardage and seventy five yard drives like San Francisco had. 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:34.680 That just that just can't happen. Um, And you know, 0:16:34.800 --> 0:16:37.000 just bail yourself out on takeaways that way, because I 0:16:37.040 --> 0:16:42.560 see a rookie quarterback who's who's pretty poised back there. Yeah. No, 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:45.640 I mean you guys are saying it. I don't feel 0:16:45.680 --> 0:16:48.440 good about our DEFENSI gives his office. I just don't. 0:16:49.280 --> 0:16:51.040 I think I think we have to force some kind 0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:53.080 of turnover. End is probably gonna come into form of 0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:55.640 forcing a fumble. You know, there's if there is a 0:16:55.680 --> 0:16:57.920 weak point and Jalen hurts is he doesn't, you know, 0:16:57.920 --> 0:17:00.480 protect the ball that will so you know, whenever you 0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:02.680 do have our opportunity to come up and get get 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:05.080 a hit on him, make a count, make a count. 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:08.119 I don't suggest that we blitz. Also, don't suggest that 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:10.360 we just sit back and let these guys run routes 0:17:10.400 --> 0:17:13.400 all day long on us. So, um, what what's what's 0:17:13.440 --> 0:17:15.679 in between that? Well, in between that is getting up 0:17:15.880 --> 0:17:17.879 and pressing these guys, pressing these receivers at the line 0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:20.480 of scrimmage, getting up and walking us safety or a 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:22.800 linebacker over their tight ends, making it hard for them 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:25.200 to get a get a clean release. And then hey, 0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:27.960 tell your front seven get home, get there. We need 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:29.399 you to get there. We can't sit back here and 0:17:29.440 --> 0:17:32.320 cover these guys all day. That's just being real. And 0:17:32.359 --> 0:17:35.440 with tanks motor, you do feel like he can wreck 0:17:35.520 --> 0:17:37.480 the game on a single player like he did, you know, 0:17:37.520 --> 0:17:40.120 forcing a fumble order, Yeah, making something happen like he's 0:17:40.160 --> 0:17:41.600 he's got to be the X factor that I could 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:43.480 see that too, Yeah, and an X I'm looking for 0:17:43.560 --> 0:17:45.440 Joe Thomas. I know nobody, I know everybody sawing about 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:47.399 Shaun Lee and talking about vander esh and I know 0:17:47.520 --> 0:17:49.359 a lot of people like Joe Thomas. I felt like 0:17:49.400 --> 0:17:50.679 he did a really good job when he was in 0:17:50.680 --> 0:17:52.200 there early in the year, and I think that we're 0:17:52.200 --> 0:17:55.040 gonna need his athleticism in this game. I truly think 0:17:55.040 --> 0:17:57.719 we're gonna need his athleticism. We need Jalen, We need 0:17:57.840 --> 0:18:00.960 Jalen Our Jalen uh to play well, to play discipline. 0:18:01.359 --> 0:18:03.879 But both of those guys together with their athleticism, I 0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:06.960 think they can cause some problems if they're playing discipline football. 0:18:07.640 --> 0:18:10.800 And we've talked about it on a couple of occasions 0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:13.399 this season. There are quarterbacks that you play along the 0:18:13.400 --> 0:18:16.480 way that are going to give you opportunities to take 0:18:16.520 --> 0:18:18.760 over a game. Kyler Murray, we said that earlier. He 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:21.160 didn't necessarily do that. We said it about Carson Wentz 0:18:21.280 --> 0:18:23.439 later on, he did do that. He gave you some 0:18:23.480 --> 0:18:25.760 opportunities here and there. The same thing with Kirk Cousins 0:18:25.920 --> 0:18:28.680 in Minnesota. He gave you opportunities. That's the same thing 0:18:28.680 --> 0:18:30.800 with Jalen Hurts. It was the same when he was 0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:33.360 at Oklahoma, even before that, when he was at Alabama, 0:18:33.480 --> 0:18:35.440 there were going to be certain points in the game 0:18:35.800 --> 0:18:38.639 where he will give you a shot at trying to convert. 0:18:38.720 --> 0:18:40.359 But whether or not you convert is going to be 0:18:40.400 --> 0:18:42.760 the difference in a win and the difference in a loss. 0:18:42.800 --> 0:18:44.680 And it's certainly he's going to be that case coming 0:18:44.760 --> 0:18:46.840 up on Sunday. But when we come back here on 0:18:46.960 --> 0:18:50.440 Talking Cowboys, we're gonna look at the Cowboys offense. 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