1 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: Luis Robert trade rumors are real. 2 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 2: Bob Nightingale has reported that Luis Robert Junior and the 3 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 2: New York Mets have been linked in possible trades. The 4 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 2: White Sox are looking at Mets prospects. We're gonna talk 5 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 2: about everything that there is to possibly talk about with 6 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,319 Speaker 2: these Luis Robert trade rumors in today's YouTube video and 7 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 2: podcast episode. Make sure you are subscribed to the mess 8 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 2: of podcast YouTube channel so you don't miss out on 9 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 2: any of the content coming at you. Videos after every 10 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 2: single series, and a third bonus episode every single week, 11 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:39,919 Speaker 2: so you're gonna want to stick around and see that. 12 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: And if you are listening to us. 13 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 2: On Apple, Podcast, Spotify, Google, whatever it is, drop us 14 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 2: a rating, drops review, download, and subscribe. 15 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: We really do appreciate it, James. 16 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 2: When I saw this news, I know we've talked about 17 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 2: this off camera many of times. 18 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: Luis Robert would be awesome on this team. He'd be 19 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: fantastic to have. 20 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 3: He'd be kind of perfect cause. And you look up 21 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 3: and down this Mets roster right now, they're really strong 22 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 3: and deep. Basically every single position of the starting nine 23 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 3: I guess at the starting eight really besides center field, 24 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 3: I know that we love Tyrone Taylor. He's become a 25 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 3: bit of a cult hero for Mets fans. He walks 26 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 3: up to ice cube. He was really clutching the playoffs 27 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 3: last year. Really good defensive center fielder. He's a solid 28 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 3: ball player. Jose series out. He will be back at 29 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 3: some point. But again, if you look at this team 30 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 3: up and down, you're like, what position is the one 31 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 3: of the guys on the field that will be the 32 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 3: most worth upgrading. 33 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 1: Of the lineup. 34 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 3: It's very clearly center field, and Louis Robert Junior is 35 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 3: at the spot right now where he has two years 36 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 3: of team options left in his White Sox contract twenty 37 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 3: million dollars each of the next two seasons, and both 38 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 3: it's totally voluntary money, so the White Sox can just 39 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 3: get rhythm from the end of the season if they 40 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 3: don't want to pay. If you trade for him, I'm 41 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 3: sure it won't happen. If you want to get a rhythm, 42 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 3: you could do that with no risk at all. And 43 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 3: he has been playing bad for two years. But I 44 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 3: think we all know the potential a guy like him has, 45 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 3: And that was funny for me to see during our 46 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 3: last video, and we talked about it briefly, how much 47 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 3: the bests fan don't like this idea, how much they 48 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 3: don't want the Louis Robert, how much he sullied his 49 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 3: name in baseball circles. 50 00:01:58,520 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: Over his last one hundred. 51 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 3: And fifty games, he's been really really bad, but kind 52 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 3: of forgetting the four years before that when he was 53 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 3: really really good the entire time. 54 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, let's give the people some context in 55 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 2: case they don't know. Over his last one hundred and 56 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 2: thirty seven games, Luis Robert has a two to fifteen 57 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 2: batting average, two eighty two on base through sixty six 58 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 2: slugging and a six to forty eight OPS. That's an 59 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 2: OPS plus a eighty four. He's been a far below 60 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 2: average hitter in the last season or so that he's played. Defensively, 61 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 2: he hasn't been as sharp as he was during his 62 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 2: prime seasons a couple of seasons ago, back in twenty 63 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 2: twenty three, But at the same time, as bad as 64 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 2: those two years are, it's hard not to see what 65 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 2: he did in twenty twenty three, it's hard not to 66 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 2: see what he did in twenty twenty one, And granted 67 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 2: those are two three four seasons ago. Now he was 68 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 2: a younger player, but he's still very much in his prime. 69 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 2: He's turning twenty eight in August. I just I can't 70 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 2: see a guy who's a five win player who hit 71 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 2: thirty eight homers eighty RBIs told twenty bases, played goal 72 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 2: glove defense just two seasons ago, and now his production 73 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 2: is dropped off, partially because I think he's just on one 74 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 2: of the the worst teams, one of the worst organizations 75 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 2: in Major League Baseball right now history, in history. They 76 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 2: literally were the worst baseball team ever. Last year he 77 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,519 Speaker 2: was terrible. He only played in one hundred games. That's 78 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,519 Speaker 2: always I think that's honestly truthfully. A bigger concern for 79 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 2: me is the injury stuff with Luis Robert. We've only 80 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 2: seen him play one season ever in his entire career 81 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 2: where he's played more than one hundred and one games. 82 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: That was twenty twenty three. 83 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 2: Otherwise, last season was the most he had played at 84 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 2: one hundred, So injuries scare me. Performance is concerning, But 85 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 2: I really do think it's just a change. He's a 86 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 2: classic change of scenery guy, and I love to bring 87 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 2: him in for the Mets. 88 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, especially just it's I don't know, people hate when 89 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 3: we use this excuse, but it does seem very hard 90 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 3: to be completely locked in every single day on a 91 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 3: team that's again the worst team in Major League. 92 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 2: Hissers getting their teeth kicked in every single game, and 93 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 2: also a guy like Luis Robert who came up when 94 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 2: the White Sox were still good. It's hard to forget 95 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 2: that in twenty twenty, twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two, 96 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 2: like until last season, they were leased still a competitive 97 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 2: baseball team that had a couple of All stars in rotation. 98 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 2: They were making playoff runs, like they were a team 99 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 2: that people legitimately, honestly and openly picked to make a 100 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 2: World Series run preseason for a couple of those years. 101 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 2: And Luis Robert is the only guy left from that team. 102 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 2: He's looking around. It's that meme to look around, like 103 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 2: where are all my friends? Like everybody is gone and. 104 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: They let everybody go. 105 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 3: And it's not an excuse that he would be disinterested, 106 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 3: but it's also understandable from like a humanistic perspective, why 107 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 3: he would be disinterested. Also, the craziest thing about Luis 108 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 3: Robert between this year and last year, when he's had 109 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 3: much worse production compared to that amazing season he had 110 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 3: twenty twenty three. Some of the underlying stuff is as 111 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 3: good has ever been in Louis Robert's career, which is crazy. 112 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 3: He still has the peak physical tools, he still has 113 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 3: incredible bat speed, he still runs very well despite going 114 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 3: through a live innjury because's only twenty seven years old. 115 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 3: I know, again the defense hasn't been like the Gold 116 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 3: Club caliber, best enterfield defense in the league, type that 117 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 3: wasn't twenty twenty three, But I still think that it's 118 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 3: kind of just like, put him in a situation where 119 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 3: that is more worthwhile, you probably get something at least. 120 00:04:57,839 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 4: Close to that. 121 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 3: Again, And the one thing that's always in the huge 122 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 3: black mark, the black stain on Louise row Bears game 123 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 3: has been his play discipline, his swing and miss that 124 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 3: season last year, he had one hundred and forty one 125 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 3: strikeouts in twenty eight walks. That is a hilariously bad numbers, 126 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 3: but shockingly and kind of ironically, his swing decisions himself 127 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 3: weren't that bad. 128 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 1: He actually improved his. 129 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 3: Chase rate between twenty twenty three and twenty twenty four, 130 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 3: and so far this season he's improved it dramatically. He's 131 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 3: the league average right now in terms of how often 132 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 3: he swings the pitches out of his own when two 133 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 3: years ago, when he was one of the best players 134 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 3: in the league on openly, he swung it some of 135 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 3: the most pitches out of his own league, and with 136 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 3: that he still managed to attack the right pitches inside 137 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 3: the strike zone. So I think that this season right now, 138 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 3: we actually will see like a bit of an uptake 139 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 3: from Louis Robert and we actually have seen that in 140 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 3: his production over the last few weeks. He's stealing tons 141 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 3: of bags. His fifteen stone base is already He's like, 142 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 3: I am getting on base and I am running because 143 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 3: I just kind of want to make my legs. 144 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: I get to let the blood get to them. 145 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 3: He's got five homers. Like I know, the batting average 146 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 3: is horrible, it's ugly, but this is still the upside 147 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 3: of truthfully one of the most dynamic cundifeelers in baseball, 148 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 3: because that's another part of it. There's not any good 149 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 3: center fielder is und the league right now. He's clearly 150 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 3: one of them. 151 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, as much as we love Tyrone Taylor and we 152 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 2: saw a little bit of the chaos of Jose Sieri. 153 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 1: Early on the season. 154 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 2: Luis Robert just has a mile high ceiling where those guys. 155 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 2: When Tyrone Taylor plays well for a couple weeks, that's 156 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 2: about as good as it's ever gonna get. Is like 157 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 2: a couple weeks of really good baseball and a nice 158 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 2: fourth outfielder, because that's truthfully what Tyrone was brought here for, 159 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 2: and that's truthfully where Tyrone Taylor is his most. 160 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: Valuable is as a fourth outfielder. 161 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 2: Tyrone's playing good baseball right now, and his numbers are 162 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 2: not too far off of Louis Robert's, who you would 163 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 2: say is playing the worst baseball of his career, possibly 164 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 2: so to me, like you mentioned the upside of a 165 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 2: guy like Luis Robert, who again it is two years 166 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 2: ago now, but two years ago he was one of 167 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 2: the most valuable outfielders in Major League Baseball for the 168 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 2: White Sox in twenty twenty three. I'm not gonna say 169 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 2: we're gonna get that version of him, but even just 170 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 2: half of that being a two to three win player, 171 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 2: which feels so incredibly attainable for a guy like Luis Robert, 172 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 2: that would do wonders to this team, not only offensively, 173 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 2: but again defensively, he is premier when he gives that effort. 174 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 3: And again just have to stress again how much of 175 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 3: a supply and demand situation this is because of where 176 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 3: center fielders are both within this Mets roster upper miners 177 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 3: and around baseball going back two full seasons, but there 178 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 3: is only one two, three, four, five, six, seven eight 179 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 3: kind of technically players in the entire league using Fangrafts 180 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 3: offensive and defensive ratings as center fielders who were positive 181 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 3: in both offensive defense, and that's when the minimum play 182 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 3: the appearance the threshold at two hundred. One of those 183 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 3: players is Jackson Merrill, who was a rookie last season. 184 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 3: Then you have, of course the main stage Julio Rodriguez, 185 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 3: Byron Buckston, pe Crow Armshaw of course, and then Jared Duran, 186 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 3: who has only played center field sometimes Redlicks don't really 187 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 3: like playing him there. And the last guy in that 188 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 3: list of all people is Trent Grisham. So that's just 189 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 3: again right now, in baseball, your centerfielder could probably either 190 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 3: hit or play defense. Usually your center fielder can do neither, 191 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 3: like a guy like Harrison Baither we had last season, 192 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 3: of course, not neither, but he was in Trent's fielder. 193 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 3: But usually it's you kind of have to way how 194 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 3: much defensive value you're getting out of the centerfielder, which 195 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 3: how how much they're taking away from their offensive value 196 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 3: of the team. And you don't have to worry about 197 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 3: that with a guy like Luis Robert. But the injury 198 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 3: is notwithstanding. But I do think that there's still there's 199 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 3: still just something really there's there's a lightning ride inside 200 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 3: of Luis Robert, like there's something where you can kind 201 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 3: of drop like a hammer onto this roster and be like, 202 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 3: now we have really totally changed, Like the complexity of 203 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 3: this team was just a simple guy like that, who's 204 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 3: that dynamic? 205 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: Hey? 206 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 5: I f t fam Hello Fresh as America's number one 207 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 5: meal kit cam because we're busy and we would like 208 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 5: all of the ingredients to cook up something nice and 209 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 5: make us look like elite chefs at home. 210 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: You know what I do. 211 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 6: I've got kids in basketball, I've got soccer, I've got 212 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 6: best I've got baseball, And when they get home there's 213 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 6: a fresh meal and they think, oh dad, he's so great. 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Free meals applied as discount on first 227 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 5: box new subscribers only, varies by plan. 228 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's something that you can't really find too often, 229 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 2: especially on the trademarket usually as well, like you don't 230 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 2: find this caliber of ceiling available for what seems like 231 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 2: is going to be a pretty attainable price point as 232 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 2: well right now, because in that Bob Nightingale article, he 233 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 2: also mentioned that the White Sox we're telling him, we're 234 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 2: flowing to him that the name that was being used 235 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 2: as someone that they're interested in from the medside was 236 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 2: Blade Tidwell. 237 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:55,559 Speaker 1: And I know We. 238 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 2: Briefly talked about this on one of our most recent 239 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 2: podcast episodes, but to me them mentioning Blade Tidwell, it 240 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 2: feels like that's almost too good to be true from 241 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 2: the Mets side of truly. I know there's a money aspect, 242 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 2: there's other things that buy into it right of course, 243 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,199 Speaker 2: But from a trade Blade Tidwell, who's like your eighth 244 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 2: or ninth starter right now for a guy who could 245 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 2: be a premier, premier centerfielder, a guy who play Tibll's 246 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 2: not helping you win a World Series right now unless 247 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 2: you trade him to get players that help you. That's 248 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 2: his value to this team at this exact moment, to 249 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,079 Speaker 2: help win a World Series in twenty twenty five, Luis 250 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 2: Robert comes on to this team, he's actively doing that 251 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 2: right now. 252 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 253 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 3: I think that's also where this Mets team is at 254 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 3: based on how well they've played through the first quarter 255 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 3: of the season. Like you played this well through the 256 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 3: first quarter of the season when you had a ninety 257 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 3: win projection, like the Mets, Like, okay, there's a conceivable 258 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 3: World series within our crossairs. 259 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: We have to start pushing in chips. 260 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 3: And then we did a prospect report last week that's 261 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 3: been CA's a pretty good you guys been liking that 262 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 3: a lot on YouTube, So everyone go check that out 263 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 3: last week if you missed that prospect report. Mark and 264 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 3: I go through the entire farm system once a month 265 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 3: to talk about basically thirty forty players in like a 266 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 3: thirty forty minute YouTube video. So a lot of good 267 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 3: stuff there, but a lot of people saying, hey, I 268 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 3: can't believe you guys want to trade some of these prospects, 269 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 3: Like we're just starting to build up our farm system now, 270 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 3: like why do you guys want to start dealing these 271 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 3: guys already? Which I think that there are two sides 272 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 3: of that coin. Like we've seen a team like the 273 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 3: Dodgers staunchly keep a lot of their prospects even as 274 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 3: they've been on a World Series path for a decade 275 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 3: and a half. 276 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 2: Now, Dalton Rushing would be a fantastic player in Major 277 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 2: League Baseball right now. He's twenty four years old, playing 278 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 2: in Triple A and dominating, and they have. 279 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: No room for him anywhere. 280 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, and we've also seen with the Dodgers that somehow, 281 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 3: some way, a lot of these prospects do manage to 282 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 3: hold more value, not more value, but these dudes still 283 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 3: manage to hold value deep, like we saw the rets 284 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 3: the Dodgers trade mcgil Vargas the middle of last season 285 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 3: for a package that brought them back Michael Kopek and 286 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 3: Tommy Edmund, two guys that tremendously helped them win a 287 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 3: World Series. We saw that firsthand during the nlcaes where 288 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 3: it's just it's about picking the spots in the moments 289 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 3: to trade these prospects. That's also playoff runs don't come 290 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 3: around all the time, and if you have opportunities for that, 291 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 3: like that's what were you play these sports to win, 292 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,439 Speaker 3: not to accumulate the best system of prospects like that. 293 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 3: That's kind of what it comes down to at the 294 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 3: end of the day. And we're lucky that we're at 295 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 3: the point now with this Mets team has turned over 296 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 3: their minor league system in such an efficient way where 297 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 3: we now actually have prospects of trade. So Mark and 298 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 3: I aren't of the of the idea of like trade 299 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 3: every single prospect. It's trade certain prospects at the right 300 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 3: times to add enough to the major league roster to 301 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 3: make us more competitive and pursuit of the World Series. 302 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're not mentioning Jonah Toong, which is a 303 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 2: popular one that I know we said we would trade 304 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 2: right now, because that's cashing at the highest value. My goodness, 305 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 2: I know I'm going to be a pipeline. Somehow didn't 306 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 2: have them in their top one hundred prospects, which is crazy. 307 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,599 Speaker 2: But talk about cashing on someone's value right now, the 308 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:36,199 Speaker 2: guy striking out like forty five percent of the. 309 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: Batters he faced. 310 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 2: They're mentioning Blade Tidwell, who as much as I like 311 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,439 Speaker 2: him personally, and I know James has seen some stuff 312 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 2: from Human Triple A that he likes as well as 313 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 2: a future rotation piece for this Mets team, and we 314 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 2: do need cheap players at points. We definitely need to 315 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,439 Speaker 2: have some cheap players on this roster at some point 316 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 2: just to help with the coed luxury tax threshold here. 317 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 2: But trading Blade Tdwell and maybe another prospect because I 318 00:12:59,920 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 2: can't imagine the halls can be that much more, especially 319 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 2: because you're taking Luis Robert and his money and everything 320 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 2: like that. It's hard not to be like, how do 321 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 2: you how do you pass on that? How do you 322 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 2: not pull the trigger? 323 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 3: Well, I think that's the part of this that we 324 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 3: probably did overlook a little bit when we talked about 325 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 3: this briefly on the episode on Monday, and a couple 326 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 3: of you guys a flashing YouTube comments here, we got 327 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 3: the mac Dodd and then we have Trada just about 328 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 3: the issues that not the issues, but like the partial 329 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 3: misses that we had talking about this, because one I 330 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 3: compared this Luis Rebaird trade potential package is something like 331 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 3: Cody Bellinger from the offseason as someone who was center 332 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 3: field capable while also having a bit of a checker 333 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 3: passed with their own production and the fact that the 334 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:42,559 Speaker 3: Yankees were able to acquire him literally for free. All 335 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 3: they acquired him was for money. When this person made 336 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 3: a good point back to me where they said, hey, 337 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 3: if the only thing the White Sox are looking for 338 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 3: is Sally relief, they will just release him at the 339 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 3: end of the season because they have a team. They 340 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 3: have a team option on him. 341 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 2: I kind of wanted to argue with that on the 342 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 2: episode when you said it, but we moved past it 343 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 2: by the time that he finished song, because I was like, well, 344 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 2: if he stinks, you just caught him because you have 345 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 2: team options the next two years. 346 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:05,319 Speaker 1: So as it's really just this current year right now. 347 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 2: I know if you hold him it's different, but if 348 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 2: you're holding him, that means he's probably pretty good. 349 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 350 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 3: And it's also the fact that, oh that's going with 351 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 3: this at the time, Oh, the fact that they the 352 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:15,959 Speaker 3: White Socks are pulling this out there this early in 353 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 3: the season, being like we are trading him. Blay Tidwell 354 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 3: is a name that could be of interest to us. 355 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 3: So it's like, we want a pitcher that has some 356 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 3: potential and his borderline major league capable right now, and 357 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 3: we're telling all of you guys, see all you contenders 358 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 3: out there, we see the messin the centerfielder. No, the 359 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 3: Phillies in the center fielder, and the Dodgers use centerfielder 360 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 3: a lot. Is about ten contenters in lead that could 361 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 3: a centerfielder every team basically except the Padres pretty much. 362 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 2: But they could just put someone in left field then 363 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 2: because they're playing Jason Hayward every single day. 364 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 3: Jackson mill Can moved back to short stop and really 365 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 3: helped the team there. But they they're like, he's being 366 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 3: traded by this time, so whoever gives us the best 367 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 3: offer that who gets him. So that's kind of will 368 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 3: be part of this, you will have to part with 369 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 3: something at least of value. The other part of this, 370 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 3: which was mentioned by again the other comment I think 371 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 3: that was by Macdog and then also by Ken Rosendhal 372 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 3: foul territory, is that this because Will sam And also 373 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 3: somewhat purpued this too and report on the athletics saying 374 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 3: like it's not a lie that the Mets have checked 375 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 3: in Luis Robert have been somewhat connected to the White 376 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 3: Sox and ro bear with the center field being the 377 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 3: spot of relative weakness in their lineup, but also being 378 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 3: acutely aware this is not the area of the most 379 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 3: dire need. Because the Mets do drop a hammer at 380 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 3: some point this trade deadline, it will likely be for 381 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 3: a starting pitcher, and we still don't know where those 382 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 3: dominoes will fall. We don't know which teams are going 383 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 3: to be selling yet. Its way too early to know that. 384 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 3: But being over the fourth threshold of the luxury tax, 385 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 3: the Coen tax, we're paying one hundred and ten percent 386 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 3: tax on every single dollar that we spend above that. 387 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 3: So if you bring in twenty million dollars Luis Robert contract, 388 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 3: that is forty two million dollars for. 389 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: The rest of the season. 390 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 3: That that will be twenty million dollars for a ten 391 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 3: million dollars half the season. So that's kind of what 392 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 3: it comes down to that if we are going to 393 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 3: again drop a hammer spend big money on a player, 394 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 3: it's probably more like an ace than what would become 395 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 3: an embarrassment of riches in our lineup. 396 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 2: No, yeah, I do think that a picture would be 397 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 2: more valuable to this Mets roster and a frontline ace 398 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 2: than Luis Robert at this exact moment. Those aces will 399 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 2: probably cost a little bit more on the prospect side too, 400 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 2: which is something to consider as well. Where a guy 401 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 2: like Blade Tidwell, who's not a hyped up prospect, we 402 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 2: know he's going to be a major league pitcher at 403 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 2: some point, we know that he can do it. That 404 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 2: price tag is not nearly the same as if you 405 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 2: were to go after not any more Sandia Contra, but 406 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 2: maybe some of the other pictures available. If the Twins 407 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 2: fall off again, Pablo Lopez, whatever, it will be. The 408 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 2: one thing I will say is until David Stearns trades 409 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 2: for a big time pitcher, I won't believe it until 410 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 2: I see it. He never did it in Milwaukee, And 411 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 2: I know it's different here because the Mets have money 412 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 2: and they're not working on the same budgets as they 413 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 2: were in Milwaukee. 414 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: But he'll go out and trade for hitters. 415 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 2: He'll make plenty of moves to go be aggressive to 416 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 2: get guys who could swing the bat. One thing that 417 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 2: he really never did in Milwaukee was going get a 418 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 2: big time pitcher. You saw more of the Paul Blackburn 419 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 2: types the way Miley's who would get traded for and 420 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 2: added to that roster. He adds on the pitching side, 421 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 2: usually towards the bottom end to fill out some extra 422 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 2: innings as the season gets longer, rather than for that 423 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 2: frontline guy who's gonna go out and just shove every 424 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 2: single five days. 425 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 3: But don't you think that's partially the team context of 426 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 3: those Brewers. 427 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 2: Very well could be, but also those Brewers teams look 428 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,400 Speaker 2: at that. If you look at those rotations, they are 429 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 2: way worse than the Mets ever. 430 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 3: Were, totally because I think David Stearns rightfully goes with 431 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 3: his process of kind of like at least then I 432 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 3: know I have a couple of aces on top, because 433 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 3: at the time he's like, I'm never gonna buy pitching, 434 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 3: so I can never afford to keep pitching, so I'll 435 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 3: just buy a hither because I need to hit it 436 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 3: right now. And those Brewers teams historically were so much 437 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 3: better pitching teams than hitting teams. Like those lineups always 438 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 3: kind of failed to stack up to the pitching and 439 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 3: that those teams would give. And by the early part 440 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 3: of that tenure he had two aces nest staff already 441 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 3: in Corbyn Burns and brandon Woodriff, and before long there 442 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 3: were some years they had borderline three aces nets on 443 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 3: those teams. 444 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 1: You're missing, You're missing the time periods. 445 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 3: The time period from twenty nineteen they had they had 446 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 3: brandon Woodriff, and then from twenty twenty one they had 447 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 3: Burns and then twenty twenty two pear Altos there. 448 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:56,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, those were the years that they didn't make as 449 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 2: much noise. The years that they made noise were twenty seventeen, eighteen, 450 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 2: twenty eighteens when they made it to the NLCS and 451 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 2: lost the sound versus the Dodgers, they had a melching. 452 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 2: They had hitting, though they had a ton of hitting. 453 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 2: Christian Yelich, Lorenzo k and Ryan Braun played some games. 454 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 2: Travis Shaw Haesus Aguilar. Even on the bench, Eric Dames 455 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 2: was great, Mike Mussakis. Their pitching was Jolie's Chasin, Chase Anderson, Junior, Garat, 456 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 2: Brent Souter, Wade Miley, and Young Young Young twenty two 457 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 2: year old Freddy Peralta. I'm telling you, until David Stearns 458 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 2: actually trades for a front line starter, I won't believe it. 459 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 2: I think he's more focused on bats. I think, especially 460 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 2: knowing that at the end of the day, as crazy 461 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 2: as this sounds, you kind of just need innings and 462 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 2: if you score enough runs, you'll be able to win 463 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 2: those games. 464 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 1: And I think that's kind of the play he's going 465 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: with right now. 466 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 5: Hey, for the card collectors out there, you need to 467 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 5: know about Arena Club. 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That's 486 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 5: Arena Club dot Com slash foul, code foul. 487 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 3: And I think they probably have and they should have 488 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 3: growing confidence and what this rotation could do moving forward. 489 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 3: And that's also coming with the caveat that, like there 490 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 3: are reinforcements coming back, like not pretending these are trade 491 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 3: deadline acquisitions, but we're going to have shaman I and 492 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 3: Frankie Montz's pitching soon. David Stearns now and purposefully in 493 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 3: Mantes's case, acquired him and Manya's case, reacquired him this 494 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 3: offseason to be two of the top projected three or 495 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 3: four guys this rotation they haven't thrown in yet. The Mets' 496 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,679 Speaker 3: the best starting picture rotation in the league, whereas this 497 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 3: lineup hilariously has been slightly underwhelming while still being quite good. 498 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 3: But also we were at the game last night Monday 499 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 3: against Keenes, and I was looking at the Mets lineup 500 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 3: and I was just like, wow, all these guys are homegrown, 501 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 3: Like this is sick, like you only not homegrown guys 502 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 3: in the entire lineup were Lindor So though and Akunya. 503 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 3: But then even the whole bottom of the line between 504 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 3: Alvarez Beatty Acunya, all those guys are free. Jeff McNeil 505 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 3: was resigned, Vento's was free in the middle, then Nimmo 506 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 3: has the contract and Pete homegrown with the with the 507 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 3: one year big contract. Then even every picture we used 508 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 3: in that game yesterday, everyone's making the league minimum between 509 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 3: David Peterson and I guess not making the minimum anymore 510 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 3: at arbitration. But then Bhutto Deadanel Nuniez and Watsco Brazabon. 511 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 3: So we beat the best picture in baseball, second best 512 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 3: pitcher in baseball yesterday, Every single pictures making the minium 513 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 3: amount of money they're allowed to make, and the entire 514 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 3: roster except the entire line of two Thursday, the line 515 00:20:59,240 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 3: it was homegrown. 516 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, this stuff is really cool, So we do have that. 517 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 3: In the bottom of the roster, where like if you 518 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 3: tell Steve Cohen, like, hey, this improves our World Series 519 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 3: odds from like seventeen percent to nineteen percent. 520 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,479 Speaker 2: And you remember that was the big conversation you had 521 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 2: with Billy Eppler, was about the World Series odds stuff, 522 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 2: where it was like our odds if we keep Verlander 523 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 2: insurser versus if we trade them, and he was like, 524 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 2: let's get rid of these guys. 525 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 1: Let's start it over again. 526 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 3: Of course he's the money man. Steve knows if you 527 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 3: tell Steve probability and that stuff. And the Mets are 528 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 3: one of the teams who have increased the World Seies 529 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 3: probability the most of the early part of the season 530 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 3: because of the fact they're winning the division, the fact 531 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 3: that the Dodgers happened really good, but they have lost 532 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 3: a couple more guys and you expected them to lose. 533 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 3: Like getting something like home field advantage in the playoffs 534 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 3: isn't something that's out of reach. Of course, the first 535 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 3: goal is winning the division. But these are things that 536 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 3: are now more attainable twenty five percent on the way 537 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 3: through the season than they were on March was the 538 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,679 Speaker 3: twenty eighth and ever we had opening Day, So the 539 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 3: context has changed. 540 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 4: A little bit. 541 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 3: Where we see some stuff, now we really see some stuff. 542 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 3: And then the one kicker would be here if we 543 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 3: can attach any prospect to get Starling Marte off this team, 544 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 3: if we can get. 545 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 2: Rid of how you get rid of Starling Martell's for 546 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 2: a guy like Louis Robert, just like take them till 547 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 2: the end of the year. You have no money, you 548 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 2: don't have to worry about anything, and we'll give you, 549 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 2: like even maybe a little better prospect. 550 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, But then then that becomes like the conversation 551 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 3: of would you Steve Welso that's something that's not Steve Cohen. 552 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 3: You think Steve Cohen prefers to not foot an extra 553 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 3: couple million dollar bill a couple dozen mil for Steve 554 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 3: Cohen who cares instead of that just to get rid 555 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 3: of a player, probably rather to eat the Stalking Marteche 556 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 3: contract Dfahim rather than trade a better prospect. 557 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 2: I also wonder too, and I think this is very 558 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 2: much in play. This will be the last thing I 559 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 2: say about it. Why can't the Mets do both? Why 560 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 2: can't the Mets trade for Louis Robert and go get 561 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 2: a picture too? If if Steve Cohen really is obsessed 562 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 2: with like this probability of like can we win the 563 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 2: World Series? 564 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: Is this our shot? 565 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 2: And David Surtins tells him, we get these guys, this 566 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 2: is our shot. We can go ahead and get the 567 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 2: World Series right now? Why why would he not? Why 568 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 2: would they not make both trades? I think that's very 569 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 2: very possible as well. 570 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 3: It's very very possible. But then again, now you're into 571 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 3: the determination of the game theory, like is this our shot? 572 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 3: Is this now their best shot? We had these guys 573 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,360 Speaker 3: for this year? Is his handcuffs too much in the offseason? 574 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 3: Like is this a guy like Robert? The big thing 575 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 3: that it's cool for me by the trades, that if 576 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 3: you get him and he's good, you get him for 577 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 3: two more years and his. 578 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: Thinks yet caught him. He's got awesome and the. 579 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 3: Whole time he's in his twenties and next year, as 580 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 3: much as we left Tyrone Taylor he doesn't have a contract, 581 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 3: so like we Mes really don't have and they don't 582 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 3: have a center fields like busting down the door of 583 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 3: the future Louis who he has to played. They're not 584 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 3: really Jose super defailable, Like we like his craziness, but 585 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 3: like if he doesn't he didn't hit in like the 586 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 3: ten games he played with the Mets at all. Also 587 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 3: a tremendous fourth outfielder. Yeah, who doesn't make any money. 588 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 3: Like there's there's there's definitely ways to thread the needle 589 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 3: where Luis Robert makes sense for this year, next year, 590 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 3: and the season after, which is why he is so 591 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 3: attractive at this moment. 592 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I guess we'll wait and see. 593 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 2: Probably gonna be a lot more trade rumors coming out 594 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 2: as the days get closer and closer to the trade deadline, 595 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 2: which is still so far away. But I love being 596 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 2: connected to the premier talent available on the trade deadline 597 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 2: as of May eleventh or whatever it was that Bob 598 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 2: Nightingale dropped that article. Thank you guys so much for listening, 599 00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 2: Thank you for watching this episode. Let's know in the 600 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 2: comments section, do you think the Mets should trade for 601 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 2: Luis Robert. We want to hear what you guys have 602 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 2: to say. 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