Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of Macaroni
Speaker 1: Trench Cheese. Is that that's a Thanksgiving delight?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the for me, it's the main course.
Speaker 3: Jack Ah, you're a wild man?
Speaker 1: Is that right there? Super producer Brian Jeffrey.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It it feels borderline to me because not because nothing
Speaker 1: against macaroni and cheese, just it feels like it's not
Speaker 1: specific enough to Thanksgiving, you know, whereas all the other
Speaker 1: stuff I like turkey, mashed potatoes, stuffing, gravy, those feel
Speaker 1: very particular.
Speaker 2: What is what is Thanksgiving food to you? Like not
Speaker 2: listing the food, but like as an.
Speaker 1: Idea, like you don't want me to just keep sitting
Speaker 1: cranberry uh, dinner rolls?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: Yamn?
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think it's just when I said that, it like
Speaker 1: is specific to Thanksgiving, whereas like mac and cheese, I'm
Speaker 1: as likely to eat mac and cheese on any other
Speaker 1: day of the year as I am on Uh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but okay, to me, Thanksgiving mac and cheese is
Speaker 2: like okay, so I'll eat box mac and cheese, like
Speaker 2: you know, like that Annie's whatever the fuck and you
Speaker 2: like dress it up a little bit, but all in
Speaker 2: the pot. But Thanksgiving mac and cheese is its own thing.
Speaker 3: Oh I'm not allowed to do Annie's on Thanksgiving. No
Speaker 3: you can't.
Speaker 4: It can be a part of it.
Speaker 2: But it's like, to me, like Thanksgiving mac and cheese
Speaker 2: was always like a baked situation with like the crust
Speaker 2: on top, and it's like just you. You approach it differently,
Speaker 2: and it's so it's like extra good. It's extra decadent.
Speaker 1: Yeah, mine's extra decadent because I'll cut up some hot
Speaker 1: dogs and put it in there. So box mac and
Speaker 1: cheese with some hot dogs cut up. It's called the
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving Special. Oh hell yeah, bro, all right, my name's Jack,
Speaker 1: that's Brian. These are some of the things that are trending.
Speaker 1: Shall we stay with Thanksgiving? Because butterball was trending on
Speaker 1: Twitter following a Fox News segment in which Jason Chafits
Speaker 1: told Kaylee mcinnanny mcnaney and some other gobsmacked dummies that
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving turkeys now cost a whopping ninety dollars.
Speaker 2: Where's she getting her turkey?
Speaker 3: I know, and like that butterball turkeys cost that much.
Speaker 4: It's not even ninety for like a prepared right.
Speaker 3: Well, but according to them, it's a choice by Joe Biden.
Speaker 1: Joe Biden did it. He's he's decided to make it
Speaker 1: so people can't afford their Thanksgiving turkeys.
Speaker 4: That diabolical bastard, that.
Speaker 3: Son of a bitch. But I don't know.
Speaker 1: It seems especially done because the price of turkey actually
Speaker 1: went down this year by about five point six percent,
Speaker 1: by about five point six percent, just around in the
Speaker 1: general vicinity of five point six percent, so twenty seven
Speaker 1: dollars for a sixteen pound frozen whole turkey, because of
Speaker 1: the decrease in poultry that have been affected by the
Speaker 1: bird flew outbreak that began in twenty twenty two. So
Speaker 1: they're they're in year two of their global pandemic, their
Speaker 1: global turkey pandemic, and have have figured out some things
Speaker 1: to do to keep the turkeys from dying enough that
Speaker 1: it isn't affecting the supply chain as much.
Speaker 2: Gotta love a fluidic in jump species.
Speaker 1: Well, I've never heard of those. That's not possible, right,
Speaker 1: that can't happen. Whipping cream and cranberries have also gone down.
Speaker 1: It seems like prices topped out last year and are
Speaker 1: are steadily slowly creeping down. So the like index from
Speaker 1: people who aren't. Fox News is saying that the average
Speaker 1: cost of a Thanksgiving dinner for ten people this year
Speaker 1: is sixty one dollars and seventeen cents, which gotta love
Speaker 1: those non la prices. That sounds that sounds wonderful. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's down four point five percent from last year's record
Speaker 1: of sixty four dollars and five cents. Still expensive, but
Speaker 1: like the fact that prices are going down. You know,
Speaker 1: the Fox News isn't gonna want to talk about that.
Speaker 1: But twenty twenty two record high for turkey prices, record
Speaker 1: high for all these other prices. But it's it's expensive.
Speaker 1: It's not ninety dollars per turkey expensive.
Speaker 2: It kind of begs the question, has always begged a
Speaker 2: question for me, why turkey? And why still like what
Speaker 2: the fuck are we doing? Traditions annoy me in certain aspects,
Speaker 2: and Thanksgiving is is right up there at the top
Speaker 2: of the list of like what are we doing?
Speaker 1: It's I think it's the one time you can actually
Speaker 1: choke it down because it has so many of the
Speaker 1: other moistening moisteners on the plate with your gravy, your
Speaker 1: stuffing that make it so that you can just kind
Speaker 1: of saw that shit into small enough pieces and gay
Speaker 1: get it down, you.
Speaker 4: Know, Okay, here's the thing, Cranberry.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna uh oh, I'm gonna.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna again where I'm just listing Thanksgiving foods again.
Speaker 2: No, but Jack, maybe you'll know because you, you know,
Speaker 2: you ran a website that had a lot of factoids
Speaker 2: and I've never bothered to look it up. Is this
Speaker 2: like a is turkey a marketing thing? Like? How how
Speaker 2: far back does the turkey thing go?
Speaker 3: Goes all the way to the top?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 3: Turkeys all the way down? I don't remember.
Speaker 1: I know there was something with Butterball being involved in
Speaker 1: the kind of creation marketing design of the Thanksgiving holiday, you.
Speaker 2: Know, like Sinco de Mayo or some shit like where
Speaker 2: it's just like it's just made up.
Speaker 1: They specific invented it. I think Butterball was involved at
Speaker 1: some point. I don't think it was like Abe Lincoln
Speaker 1: in a smoky room with the air to the Butterball fortune,
Speaker 1: quite like that, but it it is more kind of
Speaker 1: specifically thoughtfully put together than I realized based on my
Speaker 1: vague recollection of the factoid that we did about this.
Speaker 2: Because my whole thing is like I'm not opposed to
Speaker 2: a feast. I'm not opposed to getting together with your family,
Speaker 2: but it's like Thanksgiving is so prescriptive.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it annoys me.
Speaker 2: You have to have turkey like kind of you know
Speaker 2: how you were saying, you were alluding to this like
Speaker 2: traditional Thanksgiving thing, but it's kind of it's hard to Yeah,
Speaker 2: you're just you have to list because it's not like
Speaker 2: a really clear criteria. You just know it when you
Speaker 2: see it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's no thought put into it. And that
Speaker 1: is tradition and a nutshell to me. And it's it's
Speaker 1: really frustrating to just mindlessly what we gotta get the turkey,
Speaker 1: no matter what cost.
Speaker 4: Literally, that's right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, anyways, the costs aren't so bad this year. But
Speaker 1: have a happy Thanksgiving to everyone. Hey, speaking of happy
Speaker 1: things to everyone. Joe Biden it turned eighty one a
Speaker 1: couple of days ago, and he did a funny social
Speaker 1: media post where he said, turns out when when you're
Speaker 1: turning one hundred and forty six, you get you get
Speaker 1: a lot of candles on your cake. And then there's
Speaker 1: picture of his cake posing a absolute fire hazard to
Speaker 1: his extremely dry face and hair and just dry persona,
Speaker 1: Like it's probably the closest president has ever come to
Speaker 1: just going up in flames in a split second.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like propping up a scarecrow next to a bonfire.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: He feels like the most our, most flammable president in
Speaker 1: a long time.
Speaker 2: Like he's the tender president.
Speaker 4: That's right.
Speaker 2: It's like get a bigger cake, yeah, or or just
Speaker 2: get the numbers where it's just eighty one, Like, I
Speaker 2: don't know why you had to put so many candles
Speaker 2: in such a small surface area.
Speaker 1: He's trying to like have a have a good sense
Speaker 1: of humor about the fact that he's on death doorstep
Speaker 1: and we check the news every morning with the thought
Speaker 1: in the back of our head like maybe maybe the
Speaker 1: president has died and it's going something right whether he
Speaker 1: can die or where. It's like what kind of mileage.
Speaker 2: They can get out of a president, like, because it's
Speaker 2: just a bad look to have your president.
Speaker 4: It's just like dying on you for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean there's they there's a public review of his
Speaker 1: latest physical Like that's part of the job of part
Speaker 1: of the like ritual around when people decide to run
Speaker 1: for president.
Speaker 2: But I don't think they'd let I don't think they
Speaker 2: whoever they, whoever you think they is, I don't think
Speaker 2: they'd let him run if he you know, if he.
Speaker 4: Couldn't be propped up.
Speaker 1: Literally for another four years. Yeah, just wax museum that shit. Basically,
Speaker 1: I used to I used to have thoughts like that,
Speaker 1: and then they let Trump be president and stay president
Speaker 1: and now be threatening to like come back and be
Speaker 1: president after he's been like tut. The CIA, they are
Speaker 1: a bunch of jokers. You know, I'll I'll fire the
Speaker 1: whole CIA if I become president again.
Speaker 4: And they're just like, I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's oddly more comfortable to think that there is pure
Speaker 2: comic book evil somewhere out there pulling strings. Then to
Speaker 2: the harsh realization that this is just a mess of
Speaker 2: It's like a bundle of snakes.
Speaker 1: This thing's not on rails, this thing is yeah, just
Speaker 1: a bunch of snakes and rats with their tails tied together. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, let's take a quick break.
Speaker 4: We'll come back, we'll hit some more stories. We'll be
Speaker 4: right back and we're back and all right. So some
Speaker 4: good news.
Speaker 1: Media literacy has now a required subject in California schools,
Speaker 1: which is good I'm glad they passed this legislation.
Speaker 4: Kids are probably.
Speaker 1: Not the people I'm most worried about not being able.
Speaker 2: To I'm like, can I get my mom back in school?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 4: Exactly.
Speaker 1: We there should be like we should if they want
Speaker 1: to keep their driver's license, maybe we could like make
Speaker 1: it so that they have to pass it, because they
Speaker 1: definitely want to keep their driver's license.
Speaker 4: We have so Elon Musk.
Speaker 1: We did dig into this a little bit more on
Speaker 1: tomorrow's episode, but Elon Musk is suing Media Matters for
Speaker 1: pointing out that his website has a bunch of people's
Speaker 1: you know, bunch of massive brands ads right next to
Speaker 1: people being like Hitler rule, like a picture of Hitler
Speaker 1: looking cool, And he's like suing them on the basis
Speaker 1: of like that being bad for his business, and like
Speaker 1: he's not even saying it's not true.
Speaker 2: I don't even understand like the fact that you can
Speaker 2: even I mean, maybe what that's why he filed this
Speaker 2: lawsuit against a Maryland company in Texas is because he's
Speaker 2: probably allowed to do that there, right, because it makes.
Speaker 4: No I mean, it makes no sense.
Speaker 1: Like one of his own posts admits that the Media
Speaker 1: Matters screenshots were genuine, But he's just arguing that through
Speaker 1: their investigation, reporters artificially saw more ads than a normal
Speaker 1: account would, which one lawyer pointed out as a little
Speaker 1: like blaming a customer who posts about a cockroach in
Speaker 1: a salad for ordering too many salads.
Speaker 4: But Andrew Tait has rushed to.
Speaker 1: His rescue and proudly announced that he will pay one
Speaker 1: million dollars a month.
Speaker 4: I will advertise X on X.
Speaker 1: I will literally promote your own platform on this platform.
Speaker 1: So does he understand how advertising or I think this
Speaker 1: is just like a donation. But yeah, even if this
Speaker 1: winning air type business plan were to somehow happen, it
Speaker 1: would probably not mean that X wouldn't need advertisers. Since
Speaker 1: Apple's add money alone totaled one hundred million dollars in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, that's shocking to me that they were
Speaker 1: spending one hundred million dollars as recently as last year
Speaker 1: on Twitter to advertise on Twitter. Like again, back to
Speaker 1: the old people having poor media literacy. That suggests that
Speaker 1: people are actually like clicking on Twitter ads.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Interesting, all right, we we.
Speaker 1: Have some evidence from an Enric Enrique Iglesia's concert that
Speaker 1: he is not as good a singer as we all
Speaker 1: thought he was.
Speaker 2: I was working on another podcast and someone had gone
Speaker 2: to an Enrique Iglesias show and they were talking about
Speaker 2: how like it was like I think it was like
Speaker 2: Ricky Martin and Enrique, and they said they loved it.
Speaker 2: The energy was great, they said. They were talking about
Speaker 2: Enrique's ritz and how he's really he's really got something,
Speaker 2: and then his singing came up, came up, and they
Speaker 2: were like, let's not get into that at all, Like
Speaker 2: they're like, let's just move past. It sounds like what
Speaker 2: would happen if I was on stage at an Enrique
Speaker 2: Iglesias concert and trying to sing Enrique Iglesias.
Speaker 1: It just sounds like a dude who like kind of
Speaker 1: knows the words speak singing a song. And and then
Speaker 1: at one point he like goes high pitched and sounds
Speaker 1: like he's like, you know.
Speaker 4: The high pitched, non singing singing.
Speaker 2: The people are like, like, you're doing this shower. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no,
Speaker 2: I've heard still, I've heard tell of this numerous times before,
Speaker 2: so yeah, this is funny to see in the news.
Speaker 1: Yeah, people people found out apparently, And then finally the
Speaker 1: Enrique Iglesias of the sixties, Bob Dylan has come back
Speaker 1: to people's attention and acclaim. On TikTok there is something
Speaker 1: being called Bob Dylan core, which is just wearing a
Speaker 1: jacket that isn't warm enough for the weather and then
Speaker 1: like kind of pulling it over you like he does
Speaker 1: on the cover of The Free Wheel and Bob Dylan
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's a bit it's bad.
Speaker 4: For your health.
Speaker 1: Guys, do something else that Bob Dylan made look cool,
Speaker 1: like smoke cigarettes.
Speaker 4: That's better for you.
Speaker 2: It's it's not enough that we have like old and
Speaker 2: middle aged white men constantly overrating Bob Dylan and his
Speaker 2: influence throughout the twentieth century in like you know, rolling Stone,
Speaker 2: stuff like that. And now the youth, Now the youth
Speaker 2: are going to do Bob Dylan in a weird tangential one.
Speaker 1: And his riz. They're they're going off his riz. I'm
Speaker 1: a Bob Dylan fan, but I suggest you go off
Speaker 1: of some of his winter fashions from the seventies when
Speaker 1: he wore like big fur hats and like just some
Speaker 1: of the good most garish like jet coats and stuff.
Speaker 4: But he at least.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he had like a fluffy hat Paz in the seventies.
Speaker 1: I'd recommend pursuing that and saying I'm doing Bob.
Speaker 4: Dylan for yeah, very way.
Speaker 1: From his albums that nobody's ever heard, because they're not
Speaker 1: as good as the other ones. Brian, thank you so
Speaker 1: much for joining. Where can people find you? Follow you? Nowhere?
Speaker 1: Is still nowhere?
Speaker 2: Still nowhere?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Jack, no one can find me.
Speaker 2: I actually googled myself last night and I am a
Speaker 2: fucking internet ghost ghost, Like there are hints that I
Speaker 2: was alive at once.
Speaker 1: You're going ghost protocol on par asses and you do
Speaker 1: have your hood up like Tom Cruise when he goes
Speaker 1: ghost protocol.
Speaker 4: Yeah in those movies. Well, that is going to do
Speaker 4: it for us this afternoon. We are back tomorrow with
Speaker 4: the Who last episode of the show.
Speaker 1: Until then, be kind to each other, be kind to yourselves,
Speaker 1: get the vaccine, don't do nothing about white supremacy.
Speaker 4: And we will talk to you all tomorrow. Bye bye,