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Speaker 1: It is Monday, December eighteenth.

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Speaker 4: Shadrick Coming up, Tony Vasselli, Pete Prisco. We're at the

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Speaker 4: Hundai studios at the Miller Electric Center recapping Ravens twenty three,

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Speaker 4: Jaguars seven, Trevor Lawrence and the Offensi's performance in the game,

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Speaker 4: and now the health of the quarterback after the game

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Speaker 4: in concussion protocol. All that coming up. The AFC South

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Speaker 4: is a race to the finish. All three teams at

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Speaker 4: the top are eight and six. The Jaguars have the

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Speaker 4: tiebreakers currently over the Texans and Colts. We'll get to

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Speaker 4: that and the remaining schedules coming up. We'll keep it

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Speaker 4: real we usually do anyway, but I'm sure tonight it

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Speaker 4: might get turned up a notch fanatics fan questions in

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Speaker 4: the second hour. We're on tenjinexcel Amjaguars dot Com, Jaguars

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Speaker 4: YouTube JP Shadwick, Tony BISSELLI here in Jacksonville, Pete Prisco

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Speaker 4: down in South Florida and missed opportunities zero for three

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Speaker 4: in the red zone, two lost fumbles, two miss field goals,

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Speaker 4: pre snap penalties.

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Speaker 2: And that was just in the first half. Pete.

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Speaker 5: It was so bad.

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Speaker 3: I mean, my gosh, that's a game. At least you're

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Speaker 3: in it. The field goal, Okay, he's supposed to be

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Speaker 3: a good kicker.

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Speaker 5: You make your damn field goals. We know that.

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Speaker 3: You guys know how I feel about kickers. Make your

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Speaker 3: damn kicks. It's your only damn job in the game.

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Speaker 3: Go make your kicks. You stand out there all day

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Speaker 3: during practice, you lollygagger around, make your kicks. But the

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Speaker 3: end of the half, I mean, that's QB coach one

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Speaker 3: oh one, and they botched it that. That was so disappointing.

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Speaker 3: You have to be able to look. I know, they

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Speaker 3: say they go run a play, spike the ball there.

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Speaker 3: You get two shots into the end zone and then

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Speaker 3: then you kick your field goal. If you don't spike

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Speaker 3: the ball and you go make that play, you can't allow.

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Speaker 5: The guy to get tackled in bounds. Look at that.

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Speaker 3: That was thirty seconds or what was it, twenty five

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Speaker 3: seconds when he landed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's twenty four It's ridiculous.

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Speaker 5: It was just and Trevor cannot throw the routes.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you go to the mirrored routes, there's

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Speaker 3: nowhere to go with the football. Throw it into the crowd.

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Speaker 3: It's just it's it's it was bad football at the

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Speaker 3: end of the half. I mean, inexcusable. Should never happen.

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Tony. Yeah, I'm exhausted. I was thinking about

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Speaker 2: coming not the show today, really, yeah, because I'm not

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Speaker 2: in a good mindset because you normally don't think about it.

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Speaker 2: You just show up a mistake, it's.

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Speaker 4: Usually really good.

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Speaker 2: It's a mistake. And now you've thought about this, which

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Speaker 2: is a mistake, because that was a This is a

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Speaker 2: team that beats itself and it's not going to win

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Speaker 2: until it cleans that up. It's not good enough. The

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Speaker 2: fall starts, turnovers, the lack of football awareness, situational football mistackles.

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Speaker 2: I mean, just go I mean, it's you got to

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Speaker 2: be able to do the basics and not beat yourself

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Speaker 2: before you're going to be have a chance to be

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Speaker 2: a good team and win games. And the real frustrating

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Speaker 2: thing is in spite of all that, I mean, it's

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Speaker 2: it's it's ten to seven.

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Speaker 4: Yes, end of the third quarter.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you know, Duant's moot has a chance to sack

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Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson to make it like third and forever or

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Speaker 2: whatever it was going to be, and instead it's a

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Speaker 2: jump ball that we have two guys and we don't

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Speaker 2: get it. They make I mean, give them credit, they

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Speaker 2: made plays we didn't. Then you get them the.

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Speaker 3: Second and then get her up there. Collinsworth was going

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Speaker 3: crazy for that play. It was a great play to

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Speaker 3: get away from Dwance Moot. Great play, but the throw

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Speaker 3: should have been intercepted.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it should have been intercepted. And then you get

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Speaker 2: There's five Jaguars around one tight end. He sticks it

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Speaker 2: in there. Lamar played great, a good job, but it's just.

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Speaker 5: You're talking about to touchdown likely right, yeah, the one

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Speaker 4: Yeah, seam route.

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Speaker 2: So it's just and to half Pete. I I agree

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Speaker 2: with you. I would spike it. I don't think. I

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Speaker 2: mean it's a He's still Trevor's still young quarterback. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: we're not in a situation where you can just say,

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Speaker 2: just go do what they're trying to do. I mean

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Speaker 2: Doug's thinking there is let's go fast, catch him off

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Speaker 2: guard and go. I'm not like, he's not the only

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Speaker 2: coach who thinks that. I disagree with it, But that's fine,

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Speaker 2: that's a philosophical I would spot it.

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Speaker 5: I don't agree with it at all.

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Speaker 2: I don't, but there's other people that. There's other people,

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Speaker 2: so I'm not gonna I mean, that's a and Doug

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Speaker 5: So, but you can still criticize him for it.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm not. I'm not going to criticize him doing it.

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Speaker 2: I disagree with that. What I criticize is if your

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Speaker 2: the route combination makes no sense to me, again, not enough.

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Speaker 2: It's a coordinator. If anything, you look at it they

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Speaker 2: were running. I get that if anything like their man

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Speaker 2: coverage were gonna pick if you want to, because you

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Speaker 2: see all the time in that formation, the outside guy

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Speaker 2: runs up, makes the corner bubble over the top, and

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Speaker 2: you try to hit that in the flat and he

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Speaker 2: turns the corner into the end zone.

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Speaker 3: If you hit that in the flat, there's always a

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Speaker 3: chance he's getting tackled in bounds.

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Speaker 2: Pete, My point is I wouldn't call it no matter what.

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Speaker 2: But if you're gonna do it, do that correct. But

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Speaker 2: if they called the play, or whoever called the play,

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Speaker 2: maybe Trevor called, I don't know if that's the play.

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Speaker 3: It came in happen his helmet as they came down

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Speaker 3: the field. That must be a signal for something.

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Speaker 4: It must be like we're gonna go yeah, because it's

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Speaker 4: not like he's running down the field motion and get play.

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Speaker 2: It must be something prepped. You gotta throw it into

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Speaker 2: the first row. It's not there, it's not open. You

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Speaker 2: cannot make that throw.

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Speaker 3: And that thought that's on Trevor. There's no question that's

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Speaker 3: on Trevor as a veteran quarterback. A veteran quarterback has

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Speaker 3: to throw that would throw that into the into the seats.

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Speaker 5: But here's the problem with that. How many plays the

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Speaker 2: At least you spiked it with eleven seconds.

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Speaker 5: You could like that. You could have spiked that with okay, well.

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Speaker 2: But he had to make sure he gets he had

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Speaker 2: to make sure everyone gets lined up. Let's say it's

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Speaker 2: twelve seconds, okay, okay, twelve twelve. You would have had

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Speaker 2: two shots, two shots at the end zone. Each play

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Speaker 2: is gonna take four seconds, five us.

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Speaker 5: And then you kick your field. Then you kick a field.

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Speaker 2: Go if you don't get it.

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Speaker 3: So so that that part of it is on the

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Speaker 3: coaching staff. The second part of it is on Trevor.

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Speaker 2: Right, and I'm not gonna I would never debate, like

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think you guys know this. Whatever I

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Speaker 2: say here, i'd say right to the person. And I

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Speaker 2: wouldn't debate Doug on this point because his experience and the.

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Speaker 4: Way he wants to play, he would know.

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Speaker 2: My point is, I would say, I disagree, I would

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Speaker 2: do this, but you're the head coach, like, but you

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Speaker 2: can debate it.

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Speaker 4: Talking point, Pete.

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Speaker 2: My point is they have a philosophy, and a lot

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Speaker 2: of coaches have the philosophy, and because I disagree with it,

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Speaker 2: it's not one's right and one's wrong. That philosophy is

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Speaker 2: not wrong. You could score from either philosophy. That's my point.

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Speaker 2: But you better if you're gonna go to go down

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Speaker 2: the route that Doug is gonna go down, and he's decided,

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Speaker 2: which is fine, it's he's dead. Coach, you better make

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Speaker 2: sure your quarterback understands if it's not there, you throw

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Speaker 2: it into the if he's not walking into the end zone,

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Speaker 2: throw it in the first stand, in the first row.

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Speaker 2: And I'll go back to two years Pete, I'll go

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Speaker 2: back to two years ago I was doing.

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Speaker 4: I think it was two years ago. Chiefs Bengals.

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Speaker 2: Uh. The Chiefs are dominating AFC title game, dominating the

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Speaker 2: first half. Bengals are on the ropes. They have a

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Speaker 2: and they're gonna run it from the two yard line

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Speaker 2: and try to get in.

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Speaker 4: You know what they did.

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Speaker 2: They ran a similar play to the flat to Tyreek.

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Speaker 2: Killy got tackled on the one and I said on

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Speaker 2: the air, I'm like, you cannot call that play and

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Speaker 2: throw that play unless Tyreek kills by himself in the flat.

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Speaker 2: You can't risk you kick the field goal or if

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Speaker 2: you want to do a quick hit or you try

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Speaker 2: to throw the end zone I it's not there, and

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Speaker 2: then you kick the field goal. They had less time.

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Speaker 2: They had like four or five seconds. I feel no different. Now,

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Speaker 2: you like, that's not I just you can't beat yourself.

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Speaker 2: You're not good enough. I'll go back even further. It's

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Speaker 2: three nothing, three nothing. We are down first and ten.

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Speaker 2: I want to say from the twelve yard line, or

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Speaker 2: maybe it was the ten. It was twelve yard line.

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Speaker 2: I believe first down handed. Travis Anton Harrison gets overwhelmed

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Speaker 2: by urban two yard loss. Okay, second and twelve, fine, whatever, right,

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Speaker 2: a false start on Evan Ingram. Okay, great, this is

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Speaker 2: going great. We're going backwards. But it's three nothing. Now

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Speaker 2: it's second and seventeen. Okay. Trevor dross Back throws a

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Speaker 2: beautifult ball the Parker Washington. It would have made it

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Speaker 2: about third and four or five, and that third mid

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Speaker 2: it goes right through Parker's hands like he did, like

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Speaker 2: he's never caught the football in his life before, uncontested.

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Speaker 2: And then now it's third and seventeen. Nothing's there. Trevor

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Speaker 2: runs around. There's four three or four Ravens sitting there.

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Speaker 2: I'm not I still don't know what he was trying

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Speaker 2: to accomplish.

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Speaker 5: And nobody was open.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm not saying I'm not faulting him for not

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Speaker 2: throwing it. There's no one open. But I'm just like,

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Speaker 2: what are you trying to accomplish? The play's over seventeen

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Speaker 2: You're gonna get hammered. The only things that can happen

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Speaker 2: at this point are bad things. It's right here, right,

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Speaker 2: he's running around. Look at, look at there's three ravens

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Speaker 2: surrounding him.

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Speaker 5: There's what he was thinking.

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Speaker 4: What's he thinking?

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Speaker 3: He wanted to get more yards because he wanted to

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Speaker 3: MacManus to miss another field.

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Speaker 2: It was a chips pete. I'm kidding, Like I was

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Speaker 2: like watching I'm like, just slide, just slide, get down it.

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Speaker 4: Just I set that aside.

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Speaker 5: He is trying to get down Tony.

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Speaker 2: He's not bamp.

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Speaker 4: No, he's not. I'm watching it right, he's not gets down.

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Speaker 2: can't fumble the ball. You just can't. You cannot have

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Speaker 5: And I mean kallous disregard and I'm.

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Speaker 2: Not saying they go into the game, but it's a trend.

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Speaker 5: Idiot friends are probably right and you don't want to

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Speaker 2: Trevor, Trevor's a bus mean, We're like, like, this is

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Speaker 2: Trevor's no good. I'm starting to rethink Trevor. That's it's absurd.

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Speaker 2: Trevor played terrible yesterday. He had a bad game.

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Speaker 5: He didn't play terrible.

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Speaker 2: He missed, Yes, he missed a bunch of stuff early.

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Speaker 2: He was high. It wasn't he was behind on guys.

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Speaker 3: Here we are sitting here rare. Everybody's the m v P.

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Speaker 5: Compare the mum pete.

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Speaker 4: He had two fumbles, he had bad situation awareness, and

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Speaker 4: he was inaccurate. I'm just telling you this saying I think,

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Speaker 5: Might be going to war without him this week.

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Speaker 2: I know that if anyone, I am like, are you

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Speaker 2: so far is that Trevor Lawrence can't play and you

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Speaker 2: want to bring up Gardner Minshew.

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Speaker 3: Like names like the name.

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Speaker 4: I did this.

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Speaker 2: I said this a couple of years ago, and I

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Speaker 5: One thing real quick. Can you do one thing real quick?

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Speaker 3: Show me the play where, if we can see it,

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Speaker 4: Seconds left when the tackle.

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Speaker 2: They got to the line at fifteen.

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Speaker 3: Three more play, he has three more plays at least two. Okay,

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Speaker 3: so situationally, he.

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Speaker 2: Gets he gets tackled at eight seconds.

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Speaker 3: He Doug Peterson blew that. Okay, there's no sugarcoating it.

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Speaker 3: Doug Peterson is the head coach. He's ultimately responsible for

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Speaker 3: the situation. He blew it. Then Trevor blew it by

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Speaker 5: So they both blew it.

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Speaker 3: That's that's three points off the board, maybe seven because

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Speaker 3: of their situational football. And I get Tony, I get

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Speaker 5: To go fast.

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Speaker 3: Maybe you get him, but you also have to look

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Speaker 5: Gives me the best chance to get the most plays?

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Speaker 2: Pete He obviously felt like that, did I agree with you?

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Speaker 4: I don't want to.

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Speaker 2: I don't I really don't want to debate this with you,

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Speaker 2: because I agree with you I would have spiked it.

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Speaker 2: My only point at all I'm bringing up, and I'm

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Speaker 3: Philosophy is also to go for it in search of

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Speaker 2: He's been right a lot, and he's won a super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that gives I'm not saying that

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Speaker 5: Doesn't mean situationally, everything he does is right.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying that. And we pull now a lot

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Speaker 2: I actually think even though I agree one thousand percent

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Speaker 2: think it's like a black and white issue. I think

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Speaker 3: Correct, What did you guys used to do back in

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Speaker 2: That's a great question, Pete. I'm ninety five percent sure

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Speaker 2: I know we would have spiked it because we never

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you would spike it, I think I remember you

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Speaker 3: I would do. I mean, it just gives you more,

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Speaker 5: What happens if you're true. Here's my always my philosophy

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Speaker 3: If you're trying to get lined up and somebody isn't said,

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Speaker 3: So we always spike it.

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Speaker 5: You always spike it.

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Speaker 2: So just to be clear, Pete, you would have spiked it.

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Speaker 4: I'm kidding. Of course, we're back in a moment. We've

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Speaker 4: out of you, Tony before this night is overrun. He's

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Speaker 6: Control what you can control, right, and that's just what

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Speaker 6: we have to do. And it's not a situation where

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Speaker 6: I think one of the reporters last night asked me,

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Speaker 2: You know we can't do that. You know we can't.

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Speaker 6: We can't begin to panic, begin to press. We've got

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Speaker 6: to continue to play, practice hard and make a conscious

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Speaker 4: That's head coach Doug Peterson today in his day after

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Speaker 4: Tony Boselli here in Jacksonville at the Miller Electric Center

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Speaker 4: in the Hundai Studios Pete Prisco with us down in

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Speaker 4: South Florida. And you know, obviously after the game, Trevor

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Speaker 2: For the NFL.

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Speaker 4: And on top of that, just moments ago, Tom Pallizero

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Speaker 4: the Patriots claimed quarterback Nathan Rourke off waivers from the

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Speaker 4: And if that goes through, and he guess what, the

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Speaker 4: Jaguars would have only CJ.

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Speaker 5: You go find one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so if you're playing a third, if you play

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Speaker 2: No, but Pete, if Trevor can't go and Bethard has

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Speaker 2: And now you're going to go in with one quarterback

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Speaker 3: Well, is there anybody that they've had around here that

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 4: They had three in camp, three in camp and now

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Speaker 5: Have they had any others in the last couple of

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Speaker 2: Foles and he knows the offense.

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Speaker 5: How funny would that be?

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Speaker 4: Oh, it'd be hilarious, Pete, I'm just I can't stop laughing.

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Speaker 5: But he does know, He does know Doug Peterson's offense,

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Speaker 2: You would think I'm assuming it's the same verbiage from

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Speaker 4: That's where the state of affairs are right now. You

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Speaker 4: a little bit. But the wide receiver room obviously was

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Speaker 4: banged up going into the game. Christian Kirks still on

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Speaker 4: the injury list for another couple of weeks at least.

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Speaker 4: Zay Jones comes out of the game with a hamstring injury.

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Speaker 4: That didn't sound positive today from the head coach. He's

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Speaker 4: where are they at? Wide receiver Ridley's performance was twelve targets,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they Pete, What was your take on that?

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Speaker 5: That was a touchdown? I thought it was too they

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Speaker 2: The only thing I thought, and I said this in

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Speaker 2: the air, is like if you do on the reverse view?

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Speaker 2: Were they arguing that is kind of his rear end

439
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 2: was on this? But his butt was on the white

440
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 2: That's the only thing I could say. Okay, it didn't

441
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 2: look like it.

442
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 4: I didn't know.

443
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:44,240
Speaker 2: I didn't think it was. But looking at it and

444
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,399
Speaker 2: the fact that they had called it incomplete on the field,

445
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 2: was it too close for them to overturn it? That's

446
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 2: the only thing. I thought it was a catch, but

447
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:53,439
Speaker 2: it was.

448
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,239
Speaker 3: It would have been a great catch too, by the way,

449
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,200
Speaker 3: because I don't know to fit that in there.

450
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,040
Speaker 5: Why is he going there's no room there? What?

451
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 2: Nope, No, he was not open.

452
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 5: They're never opened, by the way, can I say that yesterday?

453
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:13,920
Speaker 2: They were not. The Ravens have a good defense, good secondary,

454
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:15,679
Speaker 2: and there was not a lot of space.

455
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 3: And then when they ran they were doing there when

456
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 3: they were playing zone, Tony, they were running into the man.

457
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 4: Again, there was not a lot of space, Pete.

458
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:26,919
Speaker 2: How do they get back to finding space in the

459
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:27,479
Speaker 2: passing year?

460
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Speaker 4: Uh?

461
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Speaker 3: I don't Know's hope there's busts like there was when

462
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 3: Agnew had the long you know, the throw to Agnew,

463
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 3: the touchdown. Trevor looks ten times more comfortable when he

464
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,879
Speaker 3: half boots and sets his feet and fires across the

465
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 3: other side of the field.

466
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 5: He just does. They don't throw to the middle of that.

467
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 3: Why don't They went to Farrell in the middle of

468
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 3: the field and he threw a great ball in there,

469
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 3: and then they stopped going there.

470
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know, Pete, but I just know this.

471
00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 2: It's a beat up position group. It's a beat up team.

472
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 2: Frankly so, Tony, No, I know that, but I mean,

473
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,920
Speaker 2: key guys, Pete, you know how injuries go in this league,

474
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:09,360
Speaker 2: everyone's gonna have them.

475
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 4: He's got to hope it's not to your key guys.

476
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,679
Speaker 5: Okay, but the Ravens don't have their starting running back.

477
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,639
Speaker 3: They don't have Mark Andrews, who is the big focal

478
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 3: point of their offense either.

479
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 5: I mean that that's annoying.

480
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,160
Speaker 2: I'm not making excuses. I'm just saying this.

481
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,120
Speaker 3: Team this year, it seems like it's worse across the league,

482
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 3: not just here, but Jacksonvill's had their fair share at one.

483
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,879
Speaker 4: This team is without their starting safety, their starting corner,

484
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 4: they're starting left tackle, there's number one receiver, and yeah,

485
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:37,399
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm just that's a fact.

486
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 2: Oh, I get it.

487
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 5: But okay, I can go to Cleveland.

488
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:44,680
Speaker 3: Cleveland's playing without their starting to tackles, nick their starting quarterback,

489
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,400
Speaker 3: and they're down to their fourth quarterback and they beat

490
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 3: them last week.

491
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Speaker 5: I mean, you could do that around the world.

492
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Speaker 2: Pete, I'm not trying to say the Jaguars are in

493
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Speaker 2: the worst situation of my goodness. Are you just in

494
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 2: a mood to argue with everything that is said today?

495
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 2: I get the facts. My point was not that they're

496
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 2: more injured than anyone else. I'm saying they're missing key

497
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:09,919
Speaker 2: guys on a team that's not like Uber deep with talent,

498
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 2: with big time players.

499
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 3: But now the receivers are banged up, don't you have

500
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 3: to do different things to try and get guys open?

501
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 2: What like what Pete? Because I've watched them do a

502
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 2: lot of things. They can't run the ball. It's hard

503
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 2: to get guys open when you can't run the ball.

504
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 2: So the play action pass.

505
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 3: They abandon the run too early because they ran it

506
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 3: early in the game.

507
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 2: But then late they did not. After the first quarter,

508
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 2: quarter and a half they did not. And part of

509
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 2: the reason I think they did not get as many

510
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,199
Speaker 2: rushes and maybe Preston needs to call more of it.

511
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 2: I'm not saying he doesn't, is they were three for

512
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 2: thirteen on third down. It's hard to stay on the

513
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 2: field and put drives together and run the ball when

514
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:51,160
Speaker 2: you're terrible on third down. If you're gonna run about Pete,

515
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 2: if you're gonna stick hold on to get the rhythm,

516
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 2: hold on Pete, if you're gonna stick to the run,

517
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:56,679
Speaker 2: guess what you have to be able to do. You

518
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,400
Speaker 2: have to be able to convert third and three, third

519
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 2: and four, And if you don't care that. Then you

520
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 2: can't stick to it if you don't run, and you

521
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:04,360
Speaker 2: don't get to third and three.

522
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 5: Because but but let me ask you this.

523
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 3: That play we just showed where Bigsby comes in and

524
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 3: gets tackled from behind, didn't they just complete a pass

525
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 3: down the field?

526
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,640
Speaker 5: They seem like they were getting it. Let go go,

527
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 5: don't go? Why did you You.

528
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 2: Got to make your mind up? A second ago you

529
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 2: said why did they abandon the run? And now you're

530
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 2: saying why did they run?

531
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 3: You can run it when you're running it, and you can,

532
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,400
Speaker 3: but you don't have to get There's no book out

533
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 3: there that says, oh, I just completed a twenty five

534
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 3: yard pass. Let me get Bigsby in the game and

535
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 3: we'll run it so we can have second and twelve.

536
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 5: On the next play. No, there's no book on that.

537
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 3: And by the way, you want me to get started

538
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 3: on the pop up bubble screens that they threw last night?

539
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 2: Sure?

540
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 4: Why not?

541
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 2: Think you just did well?

542
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 5: I mean how many?

543
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 4: How many?

544
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 5: Do you know how many? There were six of them?

545
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 2: I think I didn't keep score? Go ahead?

546
00:26:54,840 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 5: They're too horizontal, Tony's guy's hand on his head.

547
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 2: What's the matter to head hurts. I think you're giving

548
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 2: me a headache.

549
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 5: Pete, I'm not giving you a headaches. You agree with me.

550
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 4: I go back to what I've said all year. If

551
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,920
Speaker 4: you struggle to hold up in your quarterback, you can't.

552
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 2: Run the ball consistently. And I'm not saying they didn't

553
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 2: do some good things early and I thought Travis looked better,

554
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 2: more explosive, But when you can't do it consistently, and

555
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 2: you don't want to drop back five hundred times and

556
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 2: get your quarterback's head knocked off with the leading team

557
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,959
Speaker 2: in sacks on a beat up offensive line, you had

558
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 2: a left tackle that one leg and you could see

559
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 2: it from the first stap he couldn't sit down. You

560
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 2: had a left guard who was playing on a bad knee,

561
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 2: and you could tell he didn't have played well by

562
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 2: the way I give both he sucked it up. But wa,

563
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 2: what else do you want them to do? So you

564
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 2: can't just drop back, hold the ball and take vertical

565
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 2: shots all day because we're guess where most of your

566
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 2: down guess we're most guess where most of your downfield

567
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 2: shots come off of a lot of times off the

568
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 2: play act should pass. Yeah, we're not running the ball,

569
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 2: and so guess what they do. They use the bubble

570
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 2: screen as a run play. It's a run play, that's

571
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 2: all it is. They're trying to get it out of

572
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 2: their hands, get it to a play maker and space

573
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 2: and see if you can get four yards. That's all

574
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 2: they're doing. And maybe he'll break one every once in

575
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 2: a while.

576
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 3: But they even ran it when they're out flanked on

577
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:33,479
Speaker 3: that side, They've run it into it.

578
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that, Pete, I get it. I don't

579
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 2: love to play either. I'm just saying everyone has an answer.

580
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 2: You have to look at reality of what you have

581
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 2: and you're what you're playing with.

582
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 3: Do you do you ever feel like this season, aside

583
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 3: from maybe a game or two, that this offense has

584
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 3: been in any sort of rhythm, whether they're running it

585
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 3: or throwing it.

586
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 5: Play calling wise, I it Buffalo.

587
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, there's been Buffalo.

588
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's been a couple of games.

589
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 2: But they ran well against Buffalo, not.

590
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 5: Just running it. I'm just saying.

591
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 4: Whatever, Yeah, I mean I would say that. Well, that's

592
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 4: the first one that popped in my head, Pete.

593
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 3: I mean, I I mean, like, look this play here,

594
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 3: this is a run and play Look what run that

595
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 3: back again?

596
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 5: Look what the center is doing on that play.

597
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 2: I don't I don't have the energy for that one today.

598
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 2: Like we know, Pete, I'm with you, by the way.

599
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 5: Okay, but do you make a change Tony.

600
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,719
Speaker 2: Obviously, Okay, that's my point.

601
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 5: Okay.

602
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 3: Then then if you can't, if you're starting center can't

603
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 3: get pushed in the run game, and you have nobody

604
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 3: to go to, then then there's fatal flaw in plan

605
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 3: of building the team.

606
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 2: Pete, let me ask you this question. This offense last year,

607
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 2: were they a juggernaut? Last year?

608
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 5: I wouldn't call him a juggernaut?

609
00:29:58,760 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 4: Were they?

610
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 2: But okay, there much difference between this offense last year

611
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 2: and this year. The answer is no, it's about this.

612
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 2: It's about the I mean they maybe you know, they're

613
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 2: like part of the reason we're seeing this now. They're

614
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 2: playing good defenses every week. They didn't, you know, go

615
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 2: look at the defense as they played last year down

616
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 2: the show.

617
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 5: Ye, they didn't play this this caliber defense.

618
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 2: Okay, so that's one. Two.

619
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 4: What changes? What's like?

620
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 2: There's no change in personnel from last year's team to

621
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:30,719
Speaker 2: this team. It's the same exact team. They made a

622
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 2: bet in the offseason. So what the bet? I'm not

623
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 2: like this is Trent's decision. Trent Doug made a bet

624
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 2: that the same team they rolled out last year was

625
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 2: gonna get better. I would argue on defense they lost

626
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 2: a key component, but forget that, but that the guys

627
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 2: from year from last year, from twenty twenty two, we're

628
00:30:55,040 --> 00:31:00,040
Speaker 2: all gonna get better in twenty twenty three because the

629
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 2: only change substantial change on this team is the addition

630
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 2: to Calvin Ridley. That is it. They basically traded Calvin

631
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 2: Ridley out for Marvin Jones, the new right tackle. It's

632
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 2: the same thing they had Juwan Taylor, who was their

633
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 2: best offensive lineman last year. They didn't sign them. They

634
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 2: went and replaced them with another guy who's a right tackle.

635
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 3: And he just and he's not any Jawan Taylor this

636
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 3: year compared to John Taylor last year. Jowan Taylor was

637
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 3: much better last year, and so and Harrison's not a

638
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 3: significant drop off from Jawan.

639
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 2: Tayl No, But it's like, so they made a bet

640
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 2: and the reality is this offense is no better and

641
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 2: the defense outside of Josh Allen, is it putting up

642
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 2: any better numbers?

643
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 5: Well, Darius Williams has played better. The guys have played.

644
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 2: Better, Darius, Like I'm talking as a group.

645
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 5: I mean, I would agree with you, there's not yet. Well.

646
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 3: I mean, you drafted a blocking tight end and and

647
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 3: a running back in two and three and they do nothing.

648
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 5: There's part of your problem.

649
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,239
Speaker 2: Your blocking tight end has not been a big significant Uh.

650
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 2: Breton Strange, he has not been a significant part of

651
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 2: this offense, and he's been out for three weeks, has

652
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 2: been barely on the field, barely on the field. So

653
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 2: my point is saying that I'm not taking any shots

654
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 2: at Tran or Dug. I'm just saying that's reality. That's

655
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 2: the bet you made, and it's you're looking at a

656
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 2: very similar kind of situation.

657
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 3: Now, don't And I sent this tweet out last night,

658
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Speaker 3: Tony and you you would know better than me because

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Speaker 3: you were in there.

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Speaker 5: They don't play tough.

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Speaker 4: We've been saying this forever, I mean not forever, this

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Speaker 4: year quite a bit.

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Speaker 2: It seems like forever.

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Speaker 4: It just seems like a long time.

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Speaker 2: And we it's not We're not a physical team. We've

666
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Speaker 2: been physical on defensive times. We were much better at

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00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 2: the beginning of the year against run and so they

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00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 2: played tough as of late. Overall, I guess we did

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Speaker 2: good against Cleveland to be fair stop in the run.

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Speaker 2: But you wouldn't. You don't line up and come into

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Speaker 2: the stadium and watch the tape of our team and say, boy,

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00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 2: they are physical. And I think a lot of that,

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Speaker 2: and I'm a big believer is that the offensive line

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Speaker 2: sets the tone of physicality for a football team. And

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Speaker 2: we're not a physical offensive line.

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Speaker 4: We're just not. We are a position block. We're not powerful.

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Speaker 4: We don't move people.

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Speaker 3: But from Trent Williams in San Francisco or the physical, yes.

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Speaker 2: They come off the ball, they go downhill, they run

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Speaker 2: inside outside zone. They I mean, everything's on the players,

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Speaker 2: like it's it's how you pa. It's not just it's

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Speaker 2: the players, and then how you call the play the game.

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Speaker 2: They're a physically they're a physical unit and they have

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Speaker 2: a physical d line.

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Speaker 3: They're really physical. On the defensive side. Well, they're physical.

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Speaker 3: It's a physical team. They pat you up when you

687
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,439
Speaker 3: play that like nobody ever said. Nobody says that about

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Speaker 3: Jacksonville on either side of the ball.

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Speaker 2: No, if you look at the Baltimore Ravens last night,

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Speaker 2: they're a big because they're a big they have big bodies.

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Speaker 2: They're big, they're physical. Hey, we gotta take a break.

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Speaker 4: Okay, we'll come back more than the physicality or lack

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Speaker 4: thereof a little bit later. We'll come back to that

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Speaker 4: because that seems like a prevailing theme all season.

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Speaker 2: We got to get to that.

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Speaker 4: We'll come back and get into the Jaguars defensive performance

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Speaker 4: last night though against Lamar Jackson and the Ravens offense.

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Speaker 4: Second hour, we'll keep it real and the fanatics fan questions.

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Speaker 2: This is Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans.

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Speaker 2: The Parson's a lot more season left.

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Speaker 4: We fighters will find a way.

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00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 5: Just know it's you know, gotta keep working to find

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Speaker 5: need to win.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 5: Never never easy at the NFL. Never easy. Every team's competitive.

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Speaker 6: We're competitive team too, So we'll get back to what

707
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 6: makes such successful for our best foot four. We gotta

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Speaker 6: keep being positive in a locker room and we gotta

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Speaker 6: work to win.

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Speaker 4: We gotta know that it's Foier Lucan, the Jaguars inside

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Speaker 4: linebacker and welcome back. Is Jaguars Happy Hour presented by

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Speaker 4: YouTube And for a few moments here, let's get into

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Speaker 4: this Jaguars defensive performance yesterday. Overall, they allowed twenty three

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Speaker 4: points in the game and two.

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Speaker 2: Hundred and fifty plus yards rushing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of that was late in the game, right,

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Speaker 4: but the point when you have to get stops, they

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Speaker 4: give me.

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Speaker 2: Ten points in the first half. I kept the game close.

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Speaker 2: I there's no doubt this is But this is what happens.

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Speaker 2: To your point in fairness, I agree with you from

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Speaker 2: an individual, like for three quarters they hung in there

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Speaker 2: and were battling and it was ten to nothing and

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Speaker 2: that chance.

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Speaker 3: I mean, so yes, it didn't look like a two

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00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty yard rushing performance, Tony.

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Speaker 5: I know what you're talking about. Usually, when a.

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Speaker 3: Team's grinding on, your grinding on, your grinding on.

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Speaker 5: It didn't look like I feel like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's what that's what the teams like the

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Speaker 2: Ravens do, Pete.

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Speaker 4: Yes, the rush.

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Speaker 2: The rush game is not a situation where you know,

741
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,439
Speaker 2: you start off and it's like, oh, you know, we're

742
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 2: just five yards of pop from the get go. It's

743
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:59,919
Speaker 2: it's body blows, it's it's hitting you downhill, it's continuous,

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00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 2: it's converting the third down, it's coming and going, and

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00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 2: it's just and then in the fourth quarter the damn

746
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 2: breaks And that's what happened. The dam broke in the

747
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 2: fourth quarter. But yes, so in fairness, JP, I think

748
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:19,399
Speaker 2: you're correct. I mean, they had forty two rushes. Now,

749
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 2: twelve of those are Lamar Jackson. That's thirty rushes by

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Speaker 2: their backs. We had thirteen by the backs by the backs. Yeah,

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00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 2: they had two point fifty one. We had seventy five.

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00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 2: It's hard to win a football game when you can't

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00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 2: stop the run and you can't run the ball. That

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00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 2: goes back to the physical nature. Now, did I think

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00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 2: they had a good game plan?

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00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 4: And did they?

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00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 2: Were they in there fighting their tails off absolutely for

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00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 2: three quarters. You gotta do it for four Now, did

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00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 2: they get any help from their offense at all?

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00:37:58,080 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 4: Zero zero?

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00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 2: Their offense couldn't convert third downs, They couldn't stay on

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00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 2: the field.

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Speaker 4: So even when they missed the field goals, right, they

764
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 4: the Ravens got the ball at midfield, short field, they

765
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 4: got off the field both times.

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Speaker 2: They played their tails off, and they did a pretty

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00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 2: good job in third down two they're five or twelve,

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00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 2: the Ravens were. It's not like outstanding, but it's good,

769
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 2: good football. And so I, Pete, I I know what

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Speaker 2: you're saying.

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Speaker 4: It didn't feel like two fifty one until you watch

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Speaker 4: the fourth quarter and they were just going.

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Speaker 2: Here's ten, here's twelve, here's you know.

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Speaker 3: It was just it's a shame that little runner got hurt. Man,

775
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 3: he's a good player. Done for the year, right, Pete, Yeah,

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00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 3: he's done for the year. I loved him. He was

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Speaker 3: one of my favorite guys in the draft and he

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00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 3: you know, I always have that team of guys I

779
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 3: like better than the scouts, and he was on there.

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Speaker 5: I hated to see that because he's got some juice.

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Speaker 3: Man, he can go acl correct Pete, Uh yeah, I

782
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 3: think so.

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Speaker 5: That's bad the way it happened is like his late

784
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 5: Did you see how.

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00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 2: Super extended it? Yeah, yeah, it's a it's a tough deal.

786
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean the question you ask yourself. Did

787
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 2: the defense play winning football for three quarters, no doubt about.

788
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 3: It, and did a really good job in the secondary,

789
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 3: I thought, covering people except for that one bust and

790
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Speaker 3: on the tight and the one you talked about on

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Speaker 3: the tight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and they just I mean it was a good

793
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 2: throw route, good scheme.

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00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 3: I think it was either Brown or Jenkins was supposed

795
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 3: to be on him.

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00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure.

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00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 4: I really don't know, but so yeah, overall, the defense

798
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 4: played their tails off.

799
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Speaker 2: I mean they were physical. I thought Trayvon was Trayvon

800
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 2: played a good game. He was physical, flying around.

801
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 5: I mean, Lamar.

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Speaker 2: Jackson's tough to deal with, He's tough to get on

803
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Speaker 2: the ground.

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00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 5: That might have been his best best game.

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00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 2: I thought, yeah, he's he's Trayvon.

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00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was tough.

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Speaker 5: Tony's writing.

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Speaker 3: He was knocking people back and you know those tackles

809
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:06,879
Speaker 3: aren't bad. He knocked them back a couple of times.

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00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought both and Josh was knocking Staley back.

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Speaker 3: By the way on the uh and again this is

812
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Speaker 3: nitpicking on my part, but you know in the past,

813
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 3: the cooler down to the goal line.

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Speaker 5: You know who was in coverage on that.

815
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Speaker 2: Play, don't you, Josh Allen?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I hate that.

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00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, but uh so yeah, defense, I mean great effort,

818
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 2: just and I get it. But if you want to

819
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 2: be a great defense a game like that, you make

820
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 2: sure it's ten to seven and you give your your

821
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 2: offense every opportunity to the last possible second. That's, by

822
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Speaker 2: the way, that is really hard to do, because that's

823
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 2: a good Ravens team. Yeah, and I did think overall,

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Speaker 2: setting aside the two fifty one, which I mean it's

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Speaker 2: two fifty one fifty one always laughing, defensive coaches said, yeah,

826
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 2: but if you take away the quarterback and you take

827
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 2: away it was four plays, it it's not bad. But

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00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 2: the defense showed up. I'll say that they showed up

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00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 2: Sunday night football. They were ready to go. They had

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Speaker 2: a good plan. They were flying around.

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00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,399
Speaker 3: It's just so hard to spy him and get him

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Speaker 3: on the g I mean they used Chase On as

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Speaker 3: a spy a couple of times.

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Speaker 2: I thought they had a good plan. It's just hard

835
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Speaker 2: when you're getting nothing from your offense.

836
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 3: But this, I mean like that play was killer right there.

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00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 3: That was a third, that was third ten two, and

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00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 3: they went and scored the first trutch that touchdown.

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Speaker 4: Nothing phases Lamar, Like you can have things breaking down

840
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 4: in the pocket. He just steps or slides or moves

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00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 4: up and then all of a sudden he flicks his

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00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 4: wrists and he's got fifteen years.

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00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 2: I mean, JP, I know, Pete, you're old enough. Were

844
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 2: you old enough when there was Techmo Bowl around? Oh? Yes?

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00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 2: He remember, like Bo Jackson was, there was the one

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00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:52,439
Speaker 2: player you couldn't stop.

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00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 4: You couldn't stop.

848
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 2: It was literally programmed to not stop.

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00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 4: You couldn't stop him. And it's like that's what I

850
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 4: felt like last night with Lamar.

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00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 2: Hey, let's come back. We gotta get into special team.

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00:41:59,680 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: That's another thing we get to talk about too, is

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00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 3: how they played him, because I thought they did have

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00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 3: a good plan, but it's still impossible to keep him contained.

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00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's tough, he's so good. We're back in a moment.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's gonna happen.

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Speaker 7: It's hard to win in the NFL, especially this late

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Speaker 7: in the season. You know, every team we just played

866
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 7: is fighting for playoff spots. I mean, obviously Baltimore is

867
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Speaker 7: in a little different situation, but I mean it's hard

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Speaker 7: to win this league, especially in November and December because

869
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 7: everybody's trying to get playoff positioning. That's just when we

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00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:02,320
Speaker 7: got to be a little bit more urgent and a

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00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 7: little bit more consistent and just take her the ball

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00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 7: a little bit better.

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Speaker 4: Oh bright spot from yesterday, Jamal Agnew back from the

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00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 4: injured list coming off his shoulder issue.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back.

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Speaker 4: It's Jaguars Happy Hour, JP Shadwick, Tony Biselli, Pee Prisco.

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Speaker 4: Winding down the opening hour an hour two. We will

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00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 4: get some fanatics, fan questions and keep it real as

879
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,280
Speaker 4: we always do. But Agnew of course made an instant

880
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 4: difference a punt return for what seventeen yards? Three kickoff

881
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 4: returns were an average of just over thirty yards per return.

882
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,320
Speaker 4: Not much to show for any of those after the

883
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,720
Speaker 4: field position, and he did score the only Jaguars points

884
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 4: of the game on the deep touchdown.

885
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 2: So Agnew's pack he played great, he did. I'll tell

886
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 2: you this, I might, If I might tell Agnew, stand

887
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 2: at stand five year yards deep in the end zone

888
00:43:58,360 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 2: and if you can catch it, if it's in front

889
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 2: of you, take it out green light, green light? Why

890
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 2: not right green light? Because he is Yeah, he'll get

891
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 2: tackled short of the twenty five few times, but he

892
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 2: also is he has a chance to take it to

893
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 2: the house or at least give me a great field position.

894
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 4: He is.

895
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 2: He is really good at what he does.

896
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 5: He is a very good and I like seeing him

897
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 5: go deep.

898
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,879
Speaker 2: Yeah. Now he's had to play a much bigger role

899
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,479
Speaker 2: moving forward. It'll be interesting how he handles it because

900
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 2: he's not a natural receiver. He's you know, he was

901
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 2: a draft He was drafted as a corner, became a

902
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 2: return specialist, just outstanding, and then last year he was

903
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 2: more of a like a Swiss army knife gadget gadget

904
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:54,399
Speaker 2: gimmick like jet sweeps do different things and I know.

905
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 2: I mean he you know, would love be out there

906
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 2: as much as he can. I wonder how much he's

907
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 2: gress from last year to this year as a pure

908
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 2: route running receiver.

909
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 3: This this one was a bust. But you know what

910
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 3: I liked about it, Tony gets his head around right now.

911
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 5: There it is.

912
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 4: Well, here's the thing. That guy is not running with

913
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 4: him even if he tries to carry him.

914
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 3: No, that's the good thing. He still has the juice

915
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 3: even after the injuries and stuff.

916
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, he has juice. It'd be interesting to see what

917
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 2: they how they use them. And is he ready as

918
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 2: a receiver. I know he's ready physically, I mean he's

919
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 2: and mentally he's a tough, tough dude. Is he ready

920
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 2: from a game plan game book technique, like running routes

921
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 2: is like you have It's not like, hey, it's like

922
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 2: we're just going to play backyard, just say go up

923
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 2: ten and break it out, run it down and out.

924
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 2: It's like you have to understand coverage, I mean spots.

925
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a lot of timing. Where is he

926
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 2: at in that progression? We're gonna find out because they

927
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 2: need him. They they need him in a big way offensively.

928
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 2: Moving forward, with you know, Kirk on ir nothing official.

929
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 2: My guess is based on the injury that Zay isn't

930
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 2: gonna be ready for Tampa. And so now you're looking

931
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 2: at Ridley Washington.

932
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 5: The kidder dropped the ball.

933
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:26,320
Speaker 2: Oh oh, you're thinking of fourteen Olga cook Elijah.

934
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 4: Cooks, Cooks and uh and Jones and Evan Ingram.

935
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 2: Well, he's a tight end. I'm thinking you could use

936
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 2: him more as a receiver.

937
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 3: You're to is there anybody else who do they have

938
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 3: on that practice squad? Do they have anybody on there?

939
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 3: Because they're gonna have to add one.

940
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:46,399
Speaker 4: There's a couple of guys they got, they got. We'll

941
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 4: come back in the second hour and get to this fully.

942
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 4: But they've got Jacob Harris, They've got Seth Williams at

943
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 4: wide receiver on the practice squad.

944
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 2: Somebody's have to come up. We're back in a moment.

945
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 4: Second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour right around the corner.

946
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 2: We we'll get to.

947
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 4: The fanatics, fan questions. We'll keep it real because we

948
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 4: haven't already. After a Jaguars lost to the Ravens twenty

949
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 4: three to seven, the first hour of Jaguars Happy Hour

950
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,280
Speaker 4: presented by Jet Home Loans.

951
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:29,919
Speaker 2: We feel like we're still a good.

952
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 5: Football team, and we've we've played like.

953
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:32,720
Speaker 2: It at times.

954
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 6: Right, It's just at times we don't look very good,

955
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 6: you know, and last night was offensive. We didn't look

956
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 6: very good at times, but there were moments of of

957
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,240
Speaker 6: you know, you can kind of play with anybody.

958
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 4: Head coach Doug Peterson Today and welcome back. It's the

959
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 4: second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by Mister Chubby's Wings.

960
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 5: J P.

961
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 4: Shadwick with Hall of Famer Tony Basselli. We're at the

962
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 4: Hunday Studios at the Miller Electric Center in Jacksonville, Pete Prisco,

963
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 4: CBS Sports Senior Rider down in South Florida. We're recapping

964
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,760
Speaker 4: the Jaguars loss to the Baltimore Ravens twenty three to seventh,

965
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:15,479
Speaker 4: the final score on Sunday Night Football, the Jaguars first

966
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 4: appearance on Sunday Night since two thousand and eight. The

967
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 4: Jags have now dropped their third consecutive game. Trevor Lawrence

968
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 4: lost two fumbles. The Jags were zero for three in

969
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 4: the red zone, including a point blake chance in the

970
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 4: final seconds of the first half when Parker Washington was

971
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 4: tackled in bounds and the clock ran out, and the

972
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 4: Jaguars missed two field goals as well. After the game,

973
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 4: Warrens ended up in the league's concussion protocol. No updates

974
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:41,879
Speaker 4: today from the head coach. Jags defense, for the most part,

975
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 4: kept the game close. Lamar Jackson got his yardage on

976
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 4: the ground. Tight ends were hurt. I actually hurt the

977
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 4: Jags most of the night. They ran the ball a

978
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 4: lot late on the Jaguars defense. The Jaguars are now

979
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 4: tied for first places in the AFC South at eight

980
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 4: and six with the Texans and Colts, but the Jaguars

981
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 4: do hold that they had to head tie breakers with

982
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 4: each no room for error, though the Texans and Colts

983
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 4: do play each other in Week eighteen, and a lot

984
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 4: of questions about this team now and the ability to

985
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 4: finish with three straight losses against the AFC North now

986
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 4: and now back to back games against the NFC South

987
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:16,919
Speaker 4: coming up the Buccaneers this week, one of those first

988
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,479
Speaker 4: place teams in that division, and then a home game

989
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 4: against the Carolina Panthers.

990
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 2: That's the state of.

991
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 4: Affairs on this Monday after Week fifteen, going into Week sixteen.

992
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 4: It's Christmas week and there's coal in the stocking right now. Yeah.

993
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 2: The only thing I'd add to that, JP is for

994
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 2: all those not familiar with the we have the tiebreaker

995
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 2: right now, and we are the one team of the

996
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,439
Speaker 2: eight and six teams in the AFC South that controlled their.

997
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 4: Own destiny, correct, And so if we win every game,

998
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 4: nobody can overtake.

999
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 2: Right now, I think the Colts Priked. I think the

1000
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 2: Colts in Houston both control their own destiny for a

1001
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 2: wild card I think if they get to eleven and.

1002
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 5: Six, because they play each other the last game, right.

1003
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,320
Speaker 2: So one of them will get could get to eleven

1004
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 2: and six if they win the other two. But we

1005
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 2: control our own destiny. If you look at the next three,

1006
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 2: they're all critical. The most important one is the Titan

1007
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 2: game because if the Texans beat the If the Texans

1008
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 2: run the table and they beat the Colts and we

1009
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,879
Speaker 2: lose the Titans and we have the same record, then

1010
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 2: you get into like conference you go down there because

1011
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 2: we'll both have the same division record and it could

1012
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,320
Speaker 2: get dicey there. So the good news is you control

1013
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 2: your own destiny and you play a first place team

1014
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 2: in the Bucks. But then you play two last place

1015
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:43,240
Speaker 2: teams in their division in Carolina, Tennessee. So the sky

1016
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 2: you know, I know last night, in the last three

1017
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 2: weeks have been tough, but the sky's not falling yet.

1018
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 2: It's sitting right in front of them. It's December football.

1019
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 2: We talked about this. I think you know, when we

1020
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 2: we thought about what the record would be. Pete is

1021
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,320
Speaker 2: way off. He said, thirteen and four, or maybe it

1022
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 2: was fourteen three one of the.

1023
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,919
Speaker 3: Two thirteen thirty. Yeah, I'm off.

1024
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're way off, I said.

1025
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 3: Uh.

1026
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 2: I said they'd be eleven and six. So I got

1027
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 2: a chance to be right yet I'm not saying but

1028
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 2: my point. But we also talked about I felt like

1029
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 2: this would come down to having to win games in

1030
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 2: December to win the division.

1031
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 4: And that's where we're at.

1032
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 2: But you're in first place in the like a lot

1033
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 2: better than where we were last year, when you had

1034
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 2: everything that you had to have everything, every ball bounce

1035
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 2: your way to sneak into the playoffs. Now you can

1036
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:42,399
Speaker 2: sit here and you can control it, and you can

1037
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 2: march into the playoffs, go win three straight and feel

1038
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 2: great about yourself and get a home playoff game.

1039
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 5: See what happens the schedule's not daunting.

1040
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 2: No, and Pete you know this. And I don't think

1041
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 2: either of us would say, based on how the team's

1042
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:56,360
Speaker 2: playing right now, they're going to do anything in the playoffs.

1043
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 2: But I've been part of teams and I've watched this

1044
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 2: league long enough.

1045
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:02,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, you get you get.

1046
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 2: Hot at the right time, you can find yourself going deep.

1047
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 2: I mean, I'll go back. I mean two teams that

1048
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 2: Tom Coughlin coached, one in the ninety six Jaguars. Like

1049
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,800
Speaker 2: everyone talks about that magical season, let me just remind

1050
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 2: everybody we needed a thirty three yard field goal missed

1051
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 2: by a future Hall of Famer in Morton Anderson, and

1052
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 2: he slipped and shanked it left for us to get in.

1053
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 2: And then we got hot and we built the Bills.

1054
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 2: We beat the Broncos and and we did we should

1055
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 2: have beat the Patriots go Super Bowl. We didn't play

1056
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,839
Speaker 2: well at the end. And you go look at those

1057
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:46,359
Speaker 2: Giants teams. They were nine and seven, snuck in as

1058
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 2: a wild card and went and won the Super Bowl

1059
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:54,919
Speaker 2: and beat an at and O Patriots team. So it's

1060
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 2: bad right now. The way this team is playing right now,

1061
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 2: they won't make the playoffs. The way they're playing, they

1062
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 2: won't beat the Bucks. I think anyone can beat the

1063
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 2: Parent Panthers.

1064
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 4: Right now, So I mean except the Falcons, except for

1065
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 4: the Falcons because they lost to him yesterday.

1066
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 3: And then you and they need the and the Jaguars

1067
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 3: need the Falcons this week by the way they play

1068
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 3: the Colts.

1069
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 2: They play the Colts, and then you have Tennessee, which

1070
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 2: is gonna be tough no matter what division game, and

1071
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 2: if we have to win that to get into the

1072
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 2: playoffs and the win division, let me tell you what,

1073
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,400
Speaker 2: Mike Raible will have that team ready to do whatever

1074
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 2: it takes not to do that. Now, are we a

1075
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 2: better team than them, yes, record proves that, but this

1076
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 2: team has to play better. So don't worry about because

1077
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 2: Pete's right, it's like every one of these teams on

1078
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 2: the schedule, and Doug said it, we can play with

1079
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 2: anybody at times and other times we look like we

1080
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 2: don't know what you know, which ends up and so

1081
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 2: don't worry about the schedule. Don't worry about the Titans,

1082
00:53:56,600 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 2: I mean, the Colts or the Texans are doing because

1083
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 2: if you start playing better football, you'll get in and

1084
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,240
Speaker 2: then anything can happen.

1085
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 5: Anything, and think about this.

1086
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 3: If they got in and they won the division, they

1087
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 3: went the next three and they got in, they'd probably

1088
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 3: played Cleveland, who they could have easily beat on the

1089
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 3: road when they that's right.

1090
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:25,839
Speaker 2: I mean, there's still nobody in the AFC look out bad.

1091
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 2: We played last night. It was ten to three late

1092
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 2: in the third a jump ball the best team. It

1093
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 2: was a jump ball and we could not have played

1094
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 2: worse offensively in the first half, missfield goals, fumble in

1095
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 2: the red zone, and just bad situation management at the end.

1096
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 2: So we say this all the time on the show.

1097
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 2: It's never as good as you think it is, and

1098
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 2: it's never as bad as you think it is. It's

1099
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:03,240
Speaker 2: pretty darn bad in the first time, it's.

1100
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 4: Not as bad.

1101
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 2: Like you go watch the tape, you're like, okay, that's

1102
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 2: like you should drive me crazy because Tom, and you

1103
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:13,760
Speaker 2: probably remember this. Tom always, I remember as a rookie'd say,

1104
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 2: NFL game is decided by five to seven plays a game.

1105
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 2: That's who decides who wins and loses the NFL. He said.

1106
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 2: I listened to him the first time. He said, you're crazy,

1107
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 2: old man, what are you talking about? It should be

1108
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 2: sixty five seventy plays. But then he went on to say,

1109
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 2: he says, the problem is you don't know which of

1110
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 2: those five to seven are gonna make the difference whether

1111
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:36,359
Speaker 2: you win or lose. You gotta go play every one

1112
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 2: like it's the most important play of the game. And

1113
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 2: you know what, he was right, because you go back

1114
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 2: to that game yesterday, change the outcome of five to

1115
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 2: seven plays.

1116
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 5: The Jaguars win. You go like a Cleveland if they

1117
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 5: change the outcome of three bus they win that game.

1118
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 4: They win that game.

1119
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 5: Yeah. No, he's right, that's the same way every game.

1120
00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 2: It's the same way every game. The problem is you

1121
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 2: don't know what it is. And the problem is is

1122
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:06,359
Speaker 2: if you beat this is why you have to start

1123
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 2: by not beating yourself. And Doug said it in his pressure,

1124
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 2: control what you can control, and that is known your assignments,

1125
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 2: good situational football, no pre stat penalties.

1126
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 3: Tony, you mentioned getting hot and those teams that you

1127
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 3: were on this ninety sixteen and the Giants team those

1128
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 3: teams had you guys were a young team, but you

1129
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,879
Speaker 3: had a lot of veterans around that team that could

1130
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 3: kind of guide you a little bit, you know what

1131
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 3: I mean.

1132
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, but and.

1133
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:47,240
Speaker 3: The Giants team had Strahan and a lot of guys

1134
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 3: like that.

1135
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 2: People remember ninety sixteen, how many of those veterans have

1136
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 2: ever been in the playoffs?

1137
00:56:54,719 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 3: Good point, you know Simons postseason, like the overe was

1138
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:00,760
Speaker 3: a veteran.

1139
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 2: Logs had as much playoff experience as I did.

1140
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 4: Going to that.

1141
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 5: Boy, he'd been around the league. I'm just telling they'd

1142
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 5: been around the league.

1143
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:09,240
Speaker 2: I know, I'm joking with you. I know what you're saying.

1144
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, So I think that mattered.

1145
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 3: That's the difference I think between that team see, and

1146
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 3: I think that's a problem with this team.

1147
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 5: I said this on Frank Show the other day.

1148
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 3: I think this team somehow gets full of itself when

1149
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 3: they start playing really well, and you could see with

1150
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 3: all the busts and the mistakes and everything else, that

1151
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 3: the work, for whatever reason, in the same.

1152
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 5: The focus isn't the same.

1153
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 3: The false starts, they happen, and I think that's a

1154
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 3: byproduct of being a young team. So at some point

1155
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 3: they got to start stop acting like a young team

1156
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 3: and go play.

1157
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1158
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, But Peterson made this point the other day. I

1159
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 4: mean the young team stuff. If it's week fifteen, if

1160
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 4: you're a rookie at the start of the year. Hold

1161
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 4: on a rookie.

1162
00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 2: Hold on, let's let's go. Let's go through the pre

1163
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 2: snapt only yesterday. Evan Ingram, veteran Brandon Sheriff, one of

1164
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 2: the oldest guys on the team. Walker third year player,

1165
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 2: so still younger, but still third year player. These aren't

1166
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 2: guys who just showed up. Go look at the bus

1167
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 2: in the Cleveland game. Yeah, Like, what I know was

1168
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 2: one of two guys. It's either Ray, Sean or Darius.

1169
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 2: I'm not pointing the figure out either one, both veteran players,

1170
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 2: both good guys, you know the.

1171
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 3: One the veteran players aren't putting the work in, then.

1172
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm not my Pete all I'm saying.

1173
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 2: I'm not saying whether they're putting the work in or not.

1174
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 2: I don't buy the young team, is my point. Like

1175
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 2: we are now. I get what you're saying.

1176
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 4: The group's going together now for a second year. That's

1177
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 4: the end of the second year. You shouldn't be seeing

1178
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 4: this in the year two.

1179
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 2: But and I just go back to like the bigger

1180
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 2: point about Pete, and I know you agree with this,

1181
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 2: is like just find a way to get in because

1182
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 2: then you can get hot. Look at two years ago

1183
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 2: the Bengals went to the Super Bowl. Nobody had that

1184
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 2: on their Bengal list. No, and and by the way,

1185
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 2: they had a chance. If Aaron Donald does not sack

1186
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase had run past Jalen Ramsey, they

1187
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 2: win the game.

1188
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 3: Like so like, yeah, I agree, I agree, Tony, get in,

1189
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 3: get hot and maybe have a chance.

1190
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 5: Here, here's what we haven't really gone through.

1191
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 3: What how everybody played on Sunday night, So we need

1192
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 3: to go We'll talk about the I think we need

1193
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 3: to talk about the quarterback a little bit more. I

1194
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 3: think we needed the offensive line, uh, some of the

1195
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 3: other positions. And uh and I know Jp you want

1196
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 3: to keep it real too.

1197
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 2: So we can do that. We'll keep it real with

1198
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 2: all that. How about that? No, yeah, but I just

1199
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 2: think we got a level set after a game and

1200
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 2: you're on a three game losing streak, and it's to me,

1201
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 2: it's almost it's not binary, but it's close. If you

1202
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 2: don't play better beating anybody, you're not getting in. If

1203
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 2: you find a way to get in, you have as

1204
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 2: much of a chance as anybody else to go win

1205
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 2: the whole dang thing.

1206
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 4: Hey, Tony, we've got mister Chubby's wings outside today. We

1207
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 4: were on location last week we were and now we've

1208
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 4: got the wings here. They bring it for our production

1209
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 4: staff each and every wings, casas and mazzarella sticks.

1210
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 5: So you get a little You went three for three

1211
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 5: on that JP, so.

1212
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 2: We got so basically you're telling me we got a

1213
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 2: like a multi ethnic Schmorgesport. You got Italian cheese sticks.

1214
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 4: Okay, you got case Dia, you have Buffalo wings.

1215
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 2: I guess that's Buffalo American.

1216
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 4: So I'm just.

1217
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 2: Saying, but Chubbies does it all. It's like you can

1218
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 2: get the whole.

1219
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 5: Platter when you're in Italy. Do you ever see do

1220
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 5: you ever see cheese sticks when you're in Italy?

1221
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 4: No?

1222
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 2: But you know, but you go to you go to

1223
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 2: most you go to most of the Italian restaurants, you

1224
01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 2: get the cheese sticks.

1225
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 5: I love cheese sticks, but they're not that really Italian there.

1226
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 4: When he goes to that famous Italian place called Pizza Hut,

1227
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:05,480
Speaker 4: it's the.

1228
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 2: Chiefs, but they have cheese. I mean, you got what

1229
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Something well done, mister Chubbies.

1230
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 4: Hey, so we appreciate that each and every Monday, and

1231
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 4: we are back in just a moment. We will keep

1232
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 4: it real with all of the above listed by Pete Prisco.

1233
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 4: It's a long list and we've got a lot to

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01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 4: get to fanatics, fan questions coming up. This is Jaguars

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Speaker 6: Not at liberty to speculate with head injuries, so I

1241
01:01:57,680 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 6: can't I can't say one way or the other. This

1242
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 6: gramble play. I think it was the last one that

1243
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 6: he got hit on. Potentially, It's hard to say, but

1244
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 6: you know, continue to play, you know, the rest of

1245
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 6: the game, and then he self disclosed after the game

1246
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 6: to our docks and our trainers.

1247
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 4: That's head coach Doug Peterson today discussing Trevor Lawrence in

1248
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 4: the concussion protocol after the game and the loss to

1249
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 4: the Baltimore Ravens and welcome back Jaguars Happy Hour on

1250
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 4: a Monday.

1251
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 2: JP Shadwick Tony Boselli, Pete.

1252
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 4: Prisco and time now for Keeping It Real, presented by

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1255
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 4: to Pete's laundry list of things to discuss here, there's

1256
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 4: a lot, Pete, starting with the play of the quarterback

1257
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 4: before the concussion issue and.

1258
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 2: The offense just as a whole.

1259
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 4: Right now, we've touched on this obviously in the first hour,

1260
01:02:57,000 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 4: but now what with three to go.

1261
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just think there's something off about his game.

1262
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 3: And I go back to early in the year when

1263
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 3: he was sped up a little bit. I think he's

1264
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 3: his mechanics have been sped up. He's been sped up.

1265
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:17,880
Speaker 3: He's not setting his feet, he's leaning back sometimes when

1266
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:21,960
Speaker 3: he throws. I'm not a quarterback, you know, coach or anything,

1267
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 3: but look at the there's no follow through to the target.

1268
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 3: It just some of the mechanics seem to have waned.

1269
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 3: And these are passes he normally would hit. Now this

1270
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 3: one we just showed the Ridley. I think Ridley flattened

1271
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 3: that route out a little bit and he thought he

1272
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 3: was going to, you know, to the corner a little

1273
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 3: bit more so.

1274
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:41,000
Speaker 5: I think that was more of a miss.

1275
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 3: This one here, that was more of a miscommunication or

1276
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 3: you know, not working on the same page.

1277
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 5: But the one the ay Jones in the middle of

1278
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:50,440
Speaker 5: the field, he has to hit that. Uh.

1279
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:51,920
Speaker 3: And there was another one in the middle. I think

1280
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 3: it's to Ridley. He overshot him too. This one. I

1281
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 3: think he thought, since there was a guy inside that

1282
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 3: Evan's gonna pivot and go back out. And it was

1283
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 3: definitely pressure coming at him. But all in all, like

1284
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 3: this one here, he's got to hit that that that's mechanics,

1285
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:08,640
Speaker 3: he's falling back.

1286
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:10,440
Speaker 5: He's got to hit that second.

1287
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 4: Well, the last one we saw a second and ten

1288
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 4: mid fourth quarter and you know, seven fifty to go

1289
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 4: or so.

1290
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 2: So you're putting Evan ingram one on him on third

1291
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 2: and three.

1292
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 5: No, I'm not put I'm not putt. I don't know

1293
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:24,000
Speaker 5: who that was on.

1294
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:26,440
Speaker 3: I just think he expected him to go out a

1295
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 3: little bit with the guy on the inside there.

1296
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:29,560
Speaker 5: I'm not sure who that's on.

1297
01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:31,440
Speaker 3: It's hard for me to get until we know how

1298
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 3: they read that out, you know what I mean.

1299
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 2: I still think he threw it a little quick actually,

1300
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 2: I think he had an X.

1301
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:38,760
Speaker 5: I think he had a blitz coming at him.

1302
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:42,240
Speaker 2: But yeah, I thought he had an extra h. I listen,

1303
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 2: you know there's not a bigger Trevor fan. I just

1304
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:47,520
Speaker 2: didn't think he played well last night. I mean, I'll

1305
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 2: just make it as simple as I can. I don't

1306
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 2: think he was very accurate. I thought the end of

1307
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:56,560
Speaker 2: the first half. Whether you want to blame Doug or him,

1308
01:04:56,880 --> 01:05:00,440
Speaker 2: ultimately he's the quarterback. He's got no better not to

1309
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 2: throw that ball. So I I just he had a

1310
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 2: bad game. Happens, hm, unfortunate.

1311
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 3: So all right, Tony, did you think he left some

1312
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 3: pockets that were actually okay?

1313
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 5: Two? At times? I did. I thought he left the

1314
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 5: couple that were okay.

1315
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:19,920
Speaker 2: Nothing jumped out of me, Pete, like, I don't think

1316
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:22,479
Speaker 2: he was malicious, and I'll give.

1317
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:24,480
Speaker 5: You one and it wasn't awful or anything.

1318
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 3: But and he made a play on it where he

1319
01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:28,800
Speaker 3: flicked the ball to Etn on that on that first

1320
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 3: in the first quarter.

1321
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:31,440
Speaker 5: I think it was when he picked remember where he just.

1322
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 2: The pocket was squeezing on him though, Pete.

1323
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, he had he could have stepped up, he had,

1324
01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:42,840
Speaker 3: I don't know that was Yeah, I just again, mechanically,

1325
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:46,840
Speaker 3: he's not. He doesn't look like this. You know, he's

1326
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:49,760
Speaker 3: not driving the ball like he did. And that's not

1327
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:51,640
Speaker 3: to say his arm isn't the same because he still

1328
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:53,520
Speaker 3: got the big arm. I do think his arm was

1329
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:56,200
Speaker 3: impacted on that one sideline throw after he got hit though.

1330
01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there was about three or four and you

1331
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 2: can see him shaking, trying to shake it out.

1332
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:03,960
Speaker 4: I think he was hand had that. He got hit

1333
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 4: pretty hard on that one scrambled and fourth quarter it's

1334
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:06,560
Speaker 4: like a.

1335
01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 5: Little stinger down your arm tone because you think.

1336
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 2: That he won hoped two in a row that he

1337
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 2: couldn't even get there and you could see him trying

1338
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 2: to get feeling in his arm.

1339
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:16,600
Speaker 8: So he was not Can I say this about that

1340
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 8: quarterback too, that is a tough man because I personally,

1341
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:22,760
Speaker 8: and this is my belief, I think that concussion happened

1342
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:23,800
Speaker 8: when he got his head slacked.

1343
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:26,600
Speaker 2: I do too, Pete, I'm with you. I thought the ground.

1344
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, so in the third quarter, I think that's what

1345
01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 4: he got.

1346
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:31,560
Speaker 5: Play the entire rest of the game.

1347
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:34,200
Speaker 2: If you watch his head, his head bounces off the

1348
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 2: turf right here we're looking at him.

1349
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:39,400
Speaker 4: I guess, yeah, Yeah, that was I saw that happen.

1350
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 4: I was like, that's not good.

1351
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:42,440
Speaker 5: That's where it happened.

1352
01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 3: And in fact, they probably should have somebody should have

1353
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 3: buzzed down and got him on the sideline.

1354
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:51,200
Speaker 4: Now, also on the play where he was kind of

1355
01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 4: squeezing his hand and trying to shake his arm out,

1356
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 4: I mean he he got a forearm shiver from ro

1357
01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 4: Kwan Smith on that plate. Yeah, I mean, I'm not

1358
01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:00,160
Speaker 4: in a head. There's no talent. I'm not saying it

1359
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:00,960
Speaker 4: happened on this play.

1360
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just I think it did. You

1361
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:07,160
Speaker 2: just don't know, or maybe it built up is the Yeah,

1362
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:09,560
Speaker 2: who knows. I mean, the concussion can happen on multiple hits.

1363
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:15,960
Speaker 2: But if you listen, you talk about the thing to

1364
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 2: watch most closely this week is that it's all matters. Yeah,

1365
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:22,440
Speaker 2: it's big, it's real.

1366
01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:25,920
Speaker 3: Bid is he is he technically in the concussion protocol

1367
01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:27,200
Speaker 3: last night?

1368
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:30,600
Speaker 4: He self reported himself last night and the doctors and

1369
01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:32,920
Speaker 4: trainers said, yeah, you're in the protocol.

1370
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:37,600
Speaker 2: So it's like a five step process to get back. Well,

1371
01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 2: we know a guy can get back from one having

1372
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:44,600
Speaker 2: a concussion Sunday and play the following Sunday Rock Party

1373
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 2: just did it two weeks.

1374
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:46,959
Speaker 4: Ago, Pete three weeks ago.

1375
01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:49,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, it doesn't happen all the time though.

1376
01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:52,000
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, there's a chance he won't. I'm

1377
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:54,920
Speaker 2: just saying there's probably a better chance that he won't

1378
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:57,160
Speaker 2: than he will. I disagree with that. You don't. You

1379
01:07:57,160 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 2: don't know, no, because every guy's different. Everyone's body heals differently,

1380
01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:06,320
Speaker 2: everyone's body reacts differently. You don't know the severity of it.

1381
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 2: I mean, some guys get concussions and it's like a month.

1382
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:11,600
Speaker 2: They just can't get over it. They get you know,

1383
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 2: can't bright lights bother them, nauseous, all that stuff. Other

1384
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:21,479
Speaker 2: guys get concussion and they're rolling. I mean I only

1385
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 2: had one.

1386
01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:23,759
Speaker 4: I mean, back.

1387
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:28,679
Speaker 2: When Pete covered us, they didn't really talk about concussion.

1388
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 4: They didn't talk about concussions like they do now.

1389
01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:33,639
Speaker 5: You would have never you would have never said that, well,

1390
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 5: you didn't.

1391
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:38,479
Speaker 4: Think about it. It wasn't like the only like you had.

1392
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:40,240
Speaker 2: I had headaches all the time after games, and so

1393
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:43,799
Speaker 2: you never I mean, we weren't trained to think that way.

1394
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:46,120
Speaker 2: It is now like that's it's in the zeitgeis. I mean,

1395
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:49,720
Speaker 2: that's how people think and like it's and I'm not

1396
01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:53,240
Speaker 2: saying trying to protect guy's heads. That's important because the

1397
01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 2: only concussion I had that was diagnosed as a concussion

1398
01:08:57,680 --> 01:09:00,719
Speaker 2: in the NFL was for me was paying the Ravens,

1399
01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:03,240
Speaker 2: and I gave it to myself because I was chasing

1400
01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:05,360
Speaker 2: a It was either a fumble or pick that Mark

1401
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 2: either dropped or through and I dove because I was

1402
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:13,280
Speaker 2: so mad trying to tackle the guy. I missed the

1403
01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:18,000
Speaker 2: guy over the pile and somehow I landed headfirst into

1404
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:22,759
Speaker 2: the turf and I knocked myself. I remember, I couldn't.

1405
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:23,400
Speaker 4: I was.

1406
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:25,200
Speaker 2: I don't know if I was knocked out, but I

1407
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 2: wasn't getting up and they came out and got me.

1408
01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:31,280
Speaker 2: It was the last play before the half, and I

1409
01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:34,120
Speaker 2: was back on the field second play of the second half,

1410
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:37,680
Speaker 2: and I woke up the next day. There was no

1411
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:42,559
Speaker 2: concussion protocol or anything like that, and I felt like

1412
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:46,240
Speaker 2: felt lousy the next day. But by Wednesday at practice

1413
01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:50,960
Speaker 2: I was back practice. I felt fine. Like I mean, now,

1414
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:53,639
Speaker 2: maybe if I knew what the symptoms were back then,

1415
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:56,200
Speaker 2: I wasn't feeling fine, but I didn't. I mean, I was.

1416
01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:59,320
Speaker 2: There was no impact that I had felt so my

1417
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:00,080
Speaker 2: point is, so.

1418
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 3: I'll make this discomfort from your concussion sometimes get.

1419
01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:08,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, getting nauseous. I didn't feel great that night. I

1420
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:10,840
Speaker 4: can't remember pe if I was. I didn't throw up

1421
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:13,599
Speaker 4: or anything like that. I didn't feel right.

1422
01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:16,439
Speaker 2: I didn't feel right the next day, but by Wednesday

1423
01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:19,880
Speaker 2: it was like, no headache. I was like, okay, I'm

1424
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:22,080
Speaker 2: fine and I was back on the field.

1425
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:23,799
Speaker 5: But you have to go through a battery attach.

1426
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:26,200
Speaker 2: That's my point. I could have been messed up and

1427
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 2: I had no idea. There was no testing back then.

1428
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:31,960
Speaker 2: I mean it was literally me yelling at the doctor

1429
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:35,000
Speaker 2: that I was going back in the game on the sideline.

1430
01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:36,760
Speaker 3: You play in that week? Is why you get all

1431
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:38,720
Speaker 3: worked up when I start arguing with you on here.

1432
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 2: Huh oh probably, Yes, I probably had some issues and

1433
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:43,880
Speaker 2: I'm not.

1434
01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:46,559
Speaker 5: You got something that happened that week that brings the

1435
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:47,200
Speaker 5: anger out.

1436
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:52,160
Speaker 2: Something happened, And so it's much better now because they

1437
01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:55,280
Speaker 2: had protocols. We know more about concussions. I mean there's

1438
01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:57,160
Speaker 2: I mean in high school. I mean remember I mean

1439
01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:00,960
Speaker 2: smelling salts in high school. I remember I got back

1440
01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:07,040
Speaker 2: from a game. I couldn't remember my locker combination. I mean,

1441
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:09,920
Speaker 2: there's games in college where you like you black out

1442
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:12,559
Speaker 2: on the field, like but no one, you didn't think

1443
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:13,080
Speaker 2: about it.

1444
01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:15,720
Speaker 3: No, they jammed the thing in your nose and tell

1445
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:17,840
Speaker 3: you to sniff it and get back in the game.

1446
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:21,519
Speaker 2: And I was and I'm not saying that's right. It

1447
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:22,200
Speaker 2: doesn't make us.

1448
01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:24,800
Speaker 5: Better, just like not drinking water during practice.

1449
01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:26,800
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean that's everything you used to have

1450
01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:29,280
Speaker 2: to have, like permission from the coach to go have

1451
01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:31,519
Speaker 2: a water break and.

1452
01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:33,799
Speaker 5: Think about that for two.

1453
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:38,000
Speaker 2: Days hot ninety degrees, like you're punished, or the punishment was.

1454
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:41,120
Speaker 3: We had three in practice, three days in Florida heat.

1455
01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:43,120
Speaker 3: The coach wouldn't let us have a water break. We

1456
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:44,880
Speaker 3: had one break. So you know what we did, Tony.

1457
01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:46,800
Speaker 3: We filled up our helmet full of water and drank

1458
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:48,800
Speaker 3: from the hole in the helmet on the way back.

1459
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:49,640
Speaker 5: It's disgusting.

1460
01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:53,080
Speaker 2: I mean. But and so that's a long story saying

1461
01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:56,479
Speaker 2: is some of this is out of this is out

1462
01:11:56,520 --> 01:12:00,640
Speaker 2: of Trevor's control, because he's gonna go through a batteries

1463
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:06,320
Speaker 2: of tests and protocols and to make sure he's okay.

1464
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:09,439
Speaker 2: Because you gotta put like, especially a guy like Trevor,

1465
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:13,759
Speaker 2: because you know if there's any chance he's gonna play.

1466
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 2: Just look at this year with the MCL, the high ankle.

1467
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 2: I mean, the guy is gonna push himself to be

1468
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:20,479
Speaker 2: out there. And when it comes to head injuries, this

1469
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:24,200
Speaker 2: is where you need and this is what the NFL's

1470
01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:27,080
Speaker 2: put this concussion protocol in place. You need the doctors

1471
01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:30,800
Speaker 2: and the trainers should protect the player from himself. And

1472
01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:32,400
Speaker 2: that's why he'll go through these tests. It's out of

1473
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:36,720
Speaker 2: his hands and it's we'll find out, probably not till

1474
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:39,879
Speaker 2: late this week because if it's a five step process,

1475
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:42,720
Speaker 2: so I assume JP and Pete maybe you know, I

1476
01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:46,920
Speaker 2: don't know a lot about this. Today's day one, well,

1477
01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:50,360
Speaker 2: just doing simple math. Day five is Friday, correct, So

1478
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:53,719
Speaker 2: you're probably not gonna hear anything until Friday night or Saturday,

1479
01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:57,400
Speaker 2: whether he's playing or not, that would be my guess.

1480
01:12:57,520 --> 01:13:00,400
Speaker 4: That's I mean, right.

1481
01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:02,320
Speaker 5: Now, as we sit here on Monday, you think he plays.

1482
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:02,720
Speaker 2: I do.

1483
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:06,240
Speaker 5: I think he plays too.

1484
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:09,559
Speaker 4: I have, By the way, I have zero medical proof

1485
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:11,320
Speaker 4: of that. I have not talked to Trevor.

1486
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:14,240
Speaker 2: I haven't talked to anyone about his and by the way,

1487
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:16,400
Speaker 2: no one's gonna say anything because I don't think they're allowed,

1488
01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:21,240
Speaker 2: So I have no it's just my gut that says

1489
01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:23,720
Speaker 2: he'll be out there. I think he has like I

1490
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:28,200
Speaker 2: think his parents passed some special genes healing jeans or

1491
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:32,080
Speaker 2: something that he just I think he's I think, and

1492
01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:34,240
Speaker 2: I think he'll try to do everything he can to play.

1493
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:38,080
Speaker 2: But if he can't, he can't, and that's probably best

1494
01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:40,800
Speaker 2: for him. If the doctors and they're all just say

1495
01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:43,120
Speaker 2: he's not ready, then he shouldn't be out there.

1496
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:48,679
Speaker 5: It's not it's not calling Nick Foles aging nick Foles.

1497
01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:51,080
Speaker 2: Because you have to when it comes to head injuries,

1498
01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:53,680
Speaker 2: you have to protect guys against themselves.

1499
01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:56,519
Speaker 3: And that's why I think it's he self reported himself

1500
01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:58,719
Speaker 3: because obviously he felt symptoms and he's did.

1501
01:13:58,680 --> 01:13:59,160
Speaker 4: The right thing.

1502
01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:02,600
Speaker 2: He didn't feel right, absolutely, because guy, like listen, you

1503
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:07,559
Speaker 2: see it all the time. I'm convinced the guys will

1504
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 2: make up an injury if they can't get up on

1505
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:13,559
Speaker 2: the field at times, if they're kind of dinged, oh.

1506
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:14,280
Speaker 4: It's my shoulder.

1507
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 2: They don't want to call the head injury because you

1508
01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:23,360
Speaker 2: know today in today's NFL, if if you get diagnosed

1509
01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:27,000
Speaker 2: with the head injury, it's out of your hands. It's

1510
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:28,880
Speaker 2: not like it's you rolled your ankle. Can you tough

1511
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:31,760
Speaker 2: it out? Even if you want to tough it out

1512
01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:34,840
Speaker 2: an injury? The NFL has put things in place. They

1513
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 2: have independent they're all just they have these like everyone's

1514
01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:39,400
Speaker 2: a high alert and they should be.

1515
01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:43,400
Speaker 4: That was Keeping It Real, presented by wood Bridge by

1516
01:14:43,479 --> 01:14:46,920
Speaker 4: Robert Mundavi, Open Up a Winner Today, Real Ingredients Award

1517
01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:50,200
Speaker 4: winning line by Robert Mundavi and Tony. You might not

1518
01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:53,040
Speaker 4: be a doctor, however you did get the word zeitgeist

1519
01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 4: into the show, Toy. That was impressive.

1520
01:14:57,120 --> 01:15:02,280
Speaker 2: Pete, Pete, do you even know what zeitgeist means?

1521
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:04,680
Speaker 5: Do you? J P?

1522
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1523
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:05,960
Speaker 2: What is it?

1524
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:09,240
Speaker 4: It's like a mood of an era. Yeah, it's like

1525
01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:11,080
Speaker 4: the air. It's like what's going on? It's like, what's

1526
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:13,679
Speaker 4: kind of like the feeling of that time period?

1527
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:16,439
Speaker 2: That's a loose way, what's.

1528
01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:18,720
Speaker 5: The feeling of the time period? How did you reference that?

1529
01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:19,479
Speaker 3: I didn't even hear it.

1530
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:24,760
Speaker 4: Of the concussion protocols, it's.

1531
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:27,400
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, it's kind of like thet how it's how

1532
01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:31,640
Speaker 2: people operates the you know kind of that's impressive.

1533
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:34,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, look at how we look at the concussions now

1534
01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:35,679
Speaker 3: compared to when.

1535
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:37,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just like a different it's a different feeling

1536
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:41,360
Speaker 2: and culture of like's like, here's a good example, like

1537
01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:44,639
Speaker 2: when we were playing and you were covering this team,

1538
01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:46,760
Speaker 2: no one cared if you had a concussion. It's like,

1539
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:49,360
Speaker 2: suck it up, get back out there. And not because

1540
01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:51,760
Speaker 2: they were bad and no one we didn't think about

1541
01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:54,360
Speaker 2: it the right way. People viewed it differently. And now

1542
01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:58,839
Speaker 2: since the lawsuit from the NFL p or the players

1543
01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 2: against the NFL, the ruling and now they have all

1544
01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:04,160
Speaker 2: these things, it forced everyone to take a hard look

1545
01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:09,200
Speaker 2: because of CT and whatever at it, and now it's

1546
01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:12,800
Speaker 2: a much different feeling of how we view.

1547
01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:15,920
Speaker 4: He and jo I. I just wanted to compliment you

1548
01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:17,640
Speaker 4: on your usage of the word thank you.

1549
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Speaker 2: It was well done.

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Speaker 4: officially licensed everything. We're learning new words today in the show.

1564
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Speaker 4: There's a lot going on here. I mean, this is

1565
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:20,919
Speaker 4: we're figuring out the offense.

1566
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:24,040
Speaker 2: Not really what do we figure out about the offense?

1567
01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:25,920
Speaker 2: I missed that, figured out that they didn't play well

1568
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:30,280
Speaker 2: last night? Okay, I figured out he got that going.

1569
01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:33,080
Speaker 4: For you, So that's good. Pete's learning new words. We're

1570
01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:35,160
Speaker 4: educating Pete, Pete.

1571
01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:37,400
Speaker 2: I like, that's something big for me that I actually

1572
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:39,080
Speaker 2: educated you on a word.

1573
01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:41,440
Speaker 5: I would never use that word.

1574
01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:45,880
Speaker 2: It's nothing shocked by that at all. Not the point

1575
01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:47,680
Speaker 2: question number one would make what.

1576
01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:49,400
Speaker 5: Just because you use a word when you can use

1577
01:17:49,439 --> 01:17:51,960
Speaker 5: something else, JP, that makes you so you can use.

1578
01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:55,120
Speaker 3: Something much simpler, So why would you make it more complicated?

1579
01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:58,040
Speaker 2: I agree? I agree. You make it where everybody can

1580
01:17:58,120 --> 01:17:59,000
Speaker 2: understand what you're saying.

1581
01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:01,760
Speaker 5: Right right, JP. I heard you doing a game the

1582
01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:02,120
Speaker 5: other day.

1583
01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:04,160
Speaker 2: By the way, Oh hey, thanks, Pete. I appreciate.

1584
01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:05,760
Speaker 4: I feel like I just got rip for using the

1585
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:08,160
Speaker 4: Yeah you did a good word properly. You're trying to

1586
01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:10,400
Speaker 4: act smart because you went to southern California, which you

1587
01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:11,040
Speaker 4: don't need to do.

1588
01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:13,160
Speaker 2: You can just talk normally like, but you.

1589
01:18:13,160 --> 01:18:14,040
Speaker 5: Didn't do exactly what.

1590
01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:16,200
Speaker 4: I knew exactly what you meant because I'm a little smart,

1591
01:18:16,280 --> 01:18:19,080
Speaker 4: albeit smarter than Pete. He went to Alabama. I did, yeah,

1592
01:18:19,240 --> 01:18:21,240
Speaker 4: Harvard to the South. He went to ask you that

1593
01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:24,360
Speaker 4: every party school, party school.

1594
01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:26,880
Speaker 5: I scored fourteen on my SAT. I don't know what

1595
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:28,080
Speaker 5: you're talking, Pete.

1596
01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:29,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for listening. Pete.

1597
01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:31,400
Speaker 5: Saturday night, Yeah, I heard you.

1598
01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:32,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, nice job.

1599
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:34,280
Speaker 2: J P does a good job. He's very good.

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01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:35,000
Speaker 5: It really does.

1601
01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:37,720
Speaker 2: Li Lions did a good job Saturday night too.

1602
01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:39,360
Speaker 5: By the way, you're like the Lion. You're like the

1603
01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:40,639
Speaker 5: Lions played by play guys.

1604
01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:42,840
Speaker 4: I need to get an apartment in Detroit. I think

1605
01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:46,040
Speaker 4: I've been this nine nights in Detroit this year, FOURIGN

1606
01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:49,320
Speaker 4: training camp, three Thanksgiving to this weekend.

1607
01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:51,920
Speaker 2: Let's get to the questions.

1608
01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:54,400
Speaker 4: Shout the cat signal is out here is the best

1609
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:57,559
Speaker 4: we come up with at Saint Ogg Underscore Jags Fan?

1610
01:18:57,640 --> 01:18:59,719
Speaker 2: Are the playoffs still a lot?

1611
01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:02,719
Speaker 4: I'm out of the lock business.

1612
01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:02,880
Speaker 5: Now.

1613
01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:05,599
Speaker 4: For the record, we figured that out last week. I'm out,

1614
01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:08,479
Speaker 4: So I'm out. So you guys talk amongst yourself.

1615
01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:12,760
Speaker 2: This is an easy one for me. Lock the playoffs,

1616
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:14,559
Speaker 2: it's a lock.

1617
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:19,519
Speaker 5: Whoa. Even if Treumvor doesn't play this, it's a lock.

1618
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:21,760
Speaker 2: Pete, you heard what I said. It's a lock. He

1619
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:22,840
Speaker 2: didn't stutter it not.

1620
01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:27,479
Speaker 5: I'm not going that far. Yeah, because well I'm not.

1621
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:29,000
Speaker 5: I just I'm a realist.

1622
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:31,360
Speaker 3: I'm not a pomp pom waiver like you, but I'm

1623
01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:31,959
Speaker 3: a realist.

1624
01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:34,840
Speaker 2: What part of this show today made me sound like

1625
01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:36,240
Speaker 2: a pom pom.

1626
01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:41,840
Speaker 3: Where when you were questioning Doug for not spiking the football.

1627
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:47,080
Speaker 2: First of all, I'm going to ask a neutral person here, JP. Yes, Tony,

1628
01:19:47,240 --> 01:19:50,800
Speaker 2: did I say on the air that I disagreed and

1629
01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:51,960
Speaker 2: I would have spiked the ball?

1630
01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:53,320
Speaker 3: No?

1631
01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:56,240
Speaker 4: You said, in fact, Pete, I agree with you. I

1632
01:19:56,240 --> 01:19:58,559
Speaker 4: would have spiked the ball. However, there are multiple ways

1633
01:19:58,560 --> 01:19:58,760
Speaker 4: to do it.

1634
01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:01,559
Speaker 2: Okay, But same thing I mean I said, I like.

1635
01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:04,599
Speaker 5: Well, that's like hedging, It's like hedging what you're saying.

1636
01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:06,639
Speaker 2: It's not hedging it at all, Pete.

1637
01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:09,679
Speaker 3: It's actually saying or the other, which do you think

1638
01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:11,320
Speaker 3: what he was wrong about?

1639
01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:12,439
Speaker 5: Was he wrong?

1640
01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:14,559
Speaker 3: Because there's no Okay, we can we can both sit

1641
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:15,800
Speaker 3: here and say Trevor was wrong.

1642
01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:18,519
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, Trevor shouldn't have thrown the ball.

1643
01:20:19,160 --> 01:20:21,719
Speaker 3: Okay, now we can. I can sit here and say

1644
01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:25,439
Speaker 3: I think Doug was wrong. You will say you would

1645
01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:27,920
Speaker 3: have disagreed with him, but you're gonna say he was wrong.

1646
01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:32,280
Speaker 2: Based on the play execution. They were everyone was wrong.

1647
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:36,920
Speaker 2: I'm just saying philosophically what he said after patally, no,

1648
01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:42,120
Speaker 2: philosophically what he said after the game about the situation. Okay,

1649
01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:45,040
Speaker 2: I disagree. I don't. I would take a different pact.

1650
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:49,479
Speaker 2: But he's not the only person in the NFL that

1651
01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:51,680
Speaker 2: things going faster. It gives you an advantage and.

1652
01:20:51,640 --> 01:20:52,639
Speaker 5: Go they're all wrong.

1653
01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:56,439
Speaker 4: Okay, Pete's the smartest guy in football.

1654
01:20:56,840 --> 01:21:00,680
Speaker 5: Just ask might be I give myself more. I'll tell

1655
01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:01,040
Speaker 5: you that.

1656
01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:03,920
Speaker 2: So I don't know where I was pomp.

1657
01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:04,400
Speaker 4: I'm waving.

1658
01:21:04,439 --> 01:21:06,400
Speaker 2: I have no problem. I love this franchise.

1659
01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:10,680
Speaker 5: I put it up.

1660
01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:13,559
Speaker 4: So you're not locking for the record Pete, you're not

1661
01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:14,160
Speaker 4: locking no.

1662
01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:16,599
Speaker 5: Hell no, and JP you can never lock anything in out.

1663
01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:18,160
Speaker 2: I'm out of the lock business.

1664
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:21,639
Speaker 5: By the way, people were all saying, you don't let JP.

1665
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:24,320
Speaker 3: You know, somebody actually was really harsh and they said,

1666
01:21:24,360 --> 01:21:27,759
Speaker 3: let triple lock Trent Bulky Ego or something.

1667
01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:28,920
Speaker 5: I saw that on Twitter.

1668
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:33,360
Speaker 2: Okay, but here's the here's the good news. The triple

1669
01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:34,599
Speaker 2: lock curses over.

1670
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:36,439
Speaker 4: You.

1671
01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:38,960
Speaker 2: Triple locked it. We lost three in a row, We've

1672
01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:43,200
Speaker 2: paid our penance, we are free, We're going to win.

1673
01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:48,800
Speaker 4: It's like the groups of three, like Jack White. Next

1674
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:51,920
Speaker 4: question at Brandon Bush eight one seven, are you worried

1675
01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:54,760
Speaker 4: about Trevor? Is this team just not that good and

1676
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:56,800
Speaker 4: he's trying to play hero ball and it's just not

1677
01:21:56,880 --> 01:22:01,720
Speaker 4: working out? Once that course, are you worried about trevor Or?

1678
01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:03,240
Speaker 4: Is this team just not that good?

1679
01:22:03,320 --> 01:22:04,599
Speaker 2: How about he had a bad game?

1680
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:06,360
Speaker 4: Okay?

1681
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:09,120
Speaker 2: Is this really the secret media member ball thing?

1682
01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:12,280
Speaker 3: Is another way of saying, is he pressing because of

1683
01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:15,080
Speaker 3: what's around them and what's happening around him?

1684
01:22:15,200 --> 01:22:16,960
Speaker 5: And the answer to that question I would say.

1685
01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:24,040
Speaker 3: Is yes, yeah, I don't think, but it's not hero ball.

1686
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:27,000
Speaker 5: That's that's a strange way to describe it. I think

1687
01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:28,400
Speaker 5: he is pressing at times.

1688
01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:31,559
Speaker 4: Though you still have a named the media member you

1689
01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:33,559
Speaker 4: were crushing opening in the show.

1690
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:34,880
Speaker 2: I'm not going to.

1691
01:22:34,920 --> 01:22:36,240
Speaker 5: You know what you could, you know what you can do.

1692
01:22:36,479 --> 01:22:38,439
Speaker 5: You can figure it out. I think I know who

1693
01:22:38,439 --> 01:22:38,720
Speaker 5: it is.

1694
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:42,200
Speaker 2: I'm not going to. Yeah, if you guysn't, okay, But

1695
01:22:42,240 --> 01:22:44,960
Speaker 2: I didn't bring it up. I'm not I brought up.

1696
01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:46,840
Speaker 2: I brought it up saying I'm not going to say

1697
01:22:46,840 --> 01:22:48,840
Speaker 2: the guy's name. Why not because I don't want to.

1698
01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:51,680
Speaker 5: Didn't you bring up I'll say his name. I know

1699
01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:54,240
Speaker 5: who it is. Go ahead and say it thing it

1700
01:22:54,280 --> 01:22:54,799
Speaker 5: was hacker.

1701
01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:02,200
Speaker 2: Do you confirm or deny this, Tony, I'm just confirming

1702
01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:04,559
Speaker 2: this that I think it's a I think it's a

1703
01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:08,320
Speaker 2: ridiculous comment. I think I think it's a ridiculous comment

1704
01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:08,719
Speaker 2: to make.

1705
01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:11,799
Speaker 3: Well, and I don't think he was making the comment.

1706
01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:14,720
Speaker 3: If I read it right, he wasn't making comment to

1707
01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:18,280
Speaker 3: say he would take Gardner Minshew over Trevor Lawrence, because

1708
01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:20,080
Speaker 3: I think he actually said he wouldn't.

1709
01:23:21,320 --> 01:23:24,080
Speaker 2: I'm tweet the media guys.

1710
01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:26,000
Speaker 5: In two years that he's just shredded you.

1711
01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:26,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's too.

1712
01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:28,280
Speaker 4: He had Hayes a few years ago, and he was

1713
01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:30,840
Speaker 4: trying to fire Todd wash and now it's this.

1714
01:23:30,760 --> 01:23:32,840
Speaker 3: One about me back in the day when I covered

1715
01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:35,280
Speaker 3: the team.

1716
01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:37,559
Speaker 4: All right, our next question, let's move along at jaws

1717
01:23:37,640 --> 01:23:39,560
Speaker 4: nine six zero six O eight. I've noticed our O

1718
01:23:39,720 --> 01:23:42,479
Speaker 4: line never takes exception when opposing players get a little

1719
01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:46,920
Speaker 4: extra twist pull or forearm shot on Trevor. Where's the nastiness?

1720
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:50,679
Speaker 4: Where are the enforcers? Bisselli and Circe would have been fighting?

1721
01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 2: Okay, before we get to this, I'm gonna read this

1722
01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:55,679
Speaker 2: tweet out loud and Pete, it was a perfect lead

1723
01:23:55,720 --> 01:23:58,080
Speaker 2: into that. And Pete, if you tell me what this says,

1724
01:23:59,240 --> 01:24:01,120
Speaker 2: this may be a had time to bring it up.

1725
01:24:01,160 --> 01:24:03,559
Speaker 2: But Gardner mische went into Baltimore and beat the Ravens

1726
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:06,040
Speaker 2: on their home field earlier this year. Like you're what

1727
01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:08,000
Speaker 2: you're saying there? What do you what you what are

1728
01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:08,519
Speaker 2: you saying there?

1729
01:24:08,520 --> 01:24:08,720
Speaker 4: Pete?

1730
01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:13,520
Speaker 3: When you said he's just irritating people like you, no,

1731
01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:15,320
Speaker 3: what did he follow up with another one?

1732
01:24:15,360 --> 01:24:15,559
Speaker 5: Though?

1733
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:18,760
Speaker 2: I think after he got a bunch of heat, I

1734
01:24:18,800 --> 01:24:21,960
Speaker 2: was just joking. Well, it didn't see him come across it.

1735
01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:24,240
Speaker 5: But to the actually, you know what, he's actually stating

1736
01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:24,920
Speaker 5: a fact.

1737
01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:27,439
Speaker 4: That's fine, but what's the point.

1738
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:31,720
Speaker 2: Two different teams, two different situations, different players. Give me

1739
01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:34,200
Speaker 2: a break. Hey, let's bring the question back.

1740
01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:38,000
Speaker 4: By the way. Yeah, the old line never takes exception

1741
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:40,800
Speaker 4: when opposing players get a little extra on Trevor. Where's

1742
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:43,439
Speaker 4: the nastiness where the enforcers you and Circe would have

1743
01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:43,880
Speaker 4: been fighting.

1744
01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:47,920
Speaker 2: Okay, let me say this because I I want to

1745
01:24:47,960 --> 01:24:51,439
Speaker 2: be careful here, because I used to hate it when

1746
01:24:51,439 --> 01:24:53,960
Speaker 2: players who do this, like back in my day, the

1747
01:24:54,040 --> 01:24:56,080
Speaker 2: old days, you literally just did that a whole segment

1748
01:24:56,680 --> 01:24:59,400
Speaker 2: water and that was joking. I was that was weird

1749
01:24:59,479 --> 01:25:00,560
Speaker 2: joke of not concussions.

1750
01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:01,639
Speaker 4: Got the water right.

1751
01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:08,599
Speaker 2: The game is different. You couldn't play the way we played.

1752
01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:11,880
Speaker 2: They're also the ways you get guys back of guys.

1753
01:25:12,360 --> 01:25:15,920
Speaker 2: You would start cutting guys. You can't do certain things anymore.

1754
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:19,800
Speaker 2: You could play through the echo of the whistle and

1755
01:25:19,840 --> 01:25:25,479
Speaker 2: there was no late hits. You could get in a

1756
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:30,639
Speaker 2: pretty aggressive bruhaha, and the worst that was gonna happen

1757
01:25:30,760 --> 01:25:34,120
Speaker 2: was a fifteen yarder and most likely ninety percent of

1758
01:25:34,160 --> 01:25:37,559
Speaker 2: the time it was gonna be offsetting. You could get

1759
01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:40,760
Speaker 2: guys on the ground and go after them that was

1760
01:25:40,760 --> 01:25:43,720
Speaker 2: not illegal. There's a lot of things you can't do

1761
01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:48,040
Speaker 2: today that if guys did, they would either get thrown

1762
01:25:48,040 --> 01:25:50,120
Speaker 2: out of the game or would be like a thousand

1763
01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:51,920
Speaker 2: yards of penalty and everything.

1764
01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:54,559
Speaker 3: Steelers had one of their safety suspended for the rest

1765
01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:55,839
Speaker 3: of the season today.

1766
01:25:55,960 --> 01:25:59,639
Speaker 2: And by the way, that's a travesty. What's his name, CAZy?

1767
01:25:59,760 --> 01:26:05,800
Speaker 2: What Monte Casey? I am sorry. It is ridiculous. It's

1768
01:26:05,880 --> 01:26:09,320
Speaker 2: criminal that the NFL suspended you for a play that

1769
01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:16,400
Speaker 2: you purposely pulled your head out. You led with the shoulder.

1770
01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:21,240
Speaker 2: It is not his fault that Gardner Minshew, Hacker's favorite quarterback,

1771
01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:24,240
Speaker 2: threw a ball where he should not have thrown it.

1772
01:26:24,360 --> 01:26:28,960
Speaker 2: Tom Brady said it best today, Hey, quarterbacks, stop throwing

1773
01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:31,519
Speaker 2: the ball where you're gonna get your guy knocked out,

1774
01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:34,559
Speaker 2: because there's once a time in this league when you

1775
01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:38,280
Speaker 2: played quarterback you didn't throw that ball because you actually

1776
01:26:38,640 --> 01:26:41,000
Speaker 2: liked the guy you're playing with and you knew if

1777
01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:44,080
Speaker 2: you threw it in certain places against certain defenses, that

1778
01:26:44,200 --> 01:26:47,880
Speaker 2: dude might not be back the next week or ever

1779
01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:54,040
Speaker 2: because he might be dead because guys gotten knocked out. Now,

1780
01:26:54,080 --> 01:26:56,080
Speaker 2: I'll get the old guy. I think the game was

1781
01:26:56,160 --> 01:26:59,679
Speaker 2: better than not, because I don't want guys getting knocked

1782
01:26:59,720 --> 01:27:02,840
Speaker 2: out because you had you couldn't throw the play ball

1783
01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:05,519
Speaker 2: certain places, and if you did, you paid the price.

1784
01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:08,880
Speaker 2: And as a quarterback, you better understand that that's not

1785
01:27:09,040 --> 01:27:12,960
Speaker 2: Demonte Casey's fault. That was Gardner Minshew throwing a ball

1786
01:27:13,000 --> 01:27:15,080
Speaker 2: where he shouldn't have and a guy trying to make

1787
01:27:15,080 --> 01:27:17,600
Speaker 2: a heck of a play. What's kase he's supposed to

1788
01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:21,160
Speaker 2: do sit there and let him catch it. It's football.

1789
01:27:21,960 --> 01:27:24,880
Speaker 2: He led with his shoulder, he did what he best

1790
01:27:24,920 --> 01:27:27,880
Speaker 2: he could to protect himself and the other guy. But

1791
01:27:27,960 --> 01:27:31,200
Speaker 2: he's supposed to dislodge the ball from the guy. That

1792
01:27:31,200 --> 01:27:33,400
Speaker 2: should not only not have been a pedal, it should

1793
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:35,600
Speaker 2: have been a penalty. And the guy's getting suspended for

1794
01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:40,439
Speaker 2: a year. Give me a break. That's terrible. It's terrible.

1795
01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:42,840
Speaker 3: Well, they won't be in the playoffs, so I don't

1796
01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:44,200
Speaker 3: think he's gonna worry about the posts.

1797
01:27:44,280 --> 01:27:46,000
Speaker 2: But you know what I'm saying, it's terrible.

1798
01:27:46,120 --> 01:27:48,439
Speaker 5: I agree. I think it was a they'll they'll reduce

1799
01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:49,439
Speaker 5: that on appeal.

1800
01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:53,880
Speaker 2: But you're taking money out of the guy's pocket. So

1801
01:27:54,080 --> 01:27:56,519
Speaker 2: like back to the question that they're asking there's certain

1802
01:27:56,560 --> 01:27:59,320
Speaker 2: things you can't do that Leon and I and other

1803
01:27:59,360 --> 01:28:01,759
Speaker 2: players did. You just can't do it. It's a different game.

1804
01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:06,040
Speaker 2: Do I think I'm less worried about these guys respying?

1805
01:28:06,479 --> 01:28:08,880
Speaker 2: You want to set the tone, come off the ball,

1806
01:28:09,320 --> 01:28:09,880
Speaker 2: move people.

1807
01:28:09,880 --> 01:28:10,240
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1808
01:28:10,640 --> 01:28:12,840
Speaker 3: I don't know if you saw the Buffalo Dallas game,

1809
01:28:12,880 --> 01:28:16,880
Speaker 3: but there was a Prescott slid and somebody hit him,

1810
01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:19,200
Speaker 3: and Jack Martin went over and hit that guy, got

1811
01:28:19,200 --> 01:28:21,040
Speaker 3: a fifteen yard penalty and was offsetting.

1812
01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:22,639
Speaker 5: He took away.

1813
01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:25,000
Speaker 3: He took away the fifteen yards that they would have

1814
01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:27,439
Speaker 3: had by just going over and getting in a guy's face.

1815
01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:28,880
Speaker 5: No, that makes no sense.

1816
01:28:29,720 --> 01:28:31,800
Speaker 2: No, but my boy, and I guess I would ask

1817
01:28:31,840 --> 01:28:36,760
Speaker 2: the guy who posted on AX the Jack fan, at

1818
01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:40,640
Speaker 2: what point in Yester's day's game did something happen that

1819
01:28:40,680 --> 01:28:45,240
Speaker 2: the Baltimore Ravens did that would cause an offensive lineman

1820
01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:49,599
Speaker 2: the need to go take out a guy. I didn't

1821
01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:50,920
Speaker 2: think that Ravens were dirty yet.

1822
01:28:50,920 --> 01:28:54,519
Speaker 4: Well, no, on the on the play where Rokwan Smith

1823
01:28:54,560 --> 01:28:56,920
Speaker 4: got the forearm to Trevor's head and then the other

1824
01:28:56,960 --> 01:28:58,960
Speaker 4: guy comes from behind when Trevor's on his knees like

1825
01:28:59,000 --> 01:29:01,519
Speaker 4: kind of chokes him. And and that's when he hurt

1826
01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:03,880
Speaker 4: his arm, right, I mean on that play, it just

1827
01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:05,080
Speaker 4: seemed a little extra.

1828
01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:08,080
Speaker 2: Well, now, do I think should have been chasing him

1829
01:29:08,120 --> 01:29:11,719
Speaker 2: down the field and uh, getting guys off the pile?

1830
01:29:11,920 --> 01:29:12,640
Speaker 4: Absolutely?

1831
01:29:14,640 --> 01:29:18,080
Speaker 2: That was like when like and again you gotta be

1832
01:29:18,120 --> 01:29:21,400
Speaker 2: careful because you can't get it like Pete. I mean

1833
01:29:21,439 --> 01:29:24,320
Speaker 2: you remember this, Pete, when you covered when I played, like,

1834
01:29:24,439 --> 01:29:28,400
Speaker 2: we were told you better chase the play and clean

1835
01:29:28,520 --> 01:29:31,360
Speaker 2: guys off the pile. What that meant is and the

1836
01:29:31,400 --> 01:29:35,200
Speaker 2: officials allowed it basically like you had a little bit

1837
01:29:35,240 --> 01:29:38,400
Speaker 2: of time after the whistle to take a shot at

1838
01:29:38,400 --> 01:29:40,840
Speaker 2: a guy, and like the rule was don't stand around

1839
01:29:40,840 --> 01:29:45,439
Speaker 2: a pile, right because you're gonna get hit. You can't

1840
01:29:45,479 --> 01:29:48,800
Speaker 2: do that anymore. Now do I think they should have

1841
01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:52,400
Speaker 2: been down there and like not letting anything happen until

1842
01:29:52,439 --> 01:29:53,760
Speaker 2: the whistle? Absolutely?

1843
01:29:54,200 --> 01:29:55,840
Speaker 3: But do I tell you can't even pull a guy

1844
01:29:55,920 --> 01:29:58,160
Speaker 3: off a pile anymore a penalty.

1845
01:29:57,920 --> 01:30:01,160
Speaker 2: And so like, just to our fans, I don't. I

1846
01:30:01,160 --> 01:30:03,920
Speaker 2: don't think any of those offensive linemen are. They're tough

1847
01:30:03,960 --> 01:30:06,840
Speaker 2: guys like and let me be clear here when I

1848
01:30:06,840 --> 01:30:09,519
Speaker 2: say they're not physical, I'm not saying I'm not questioning

1849
01:30:09,520 --> 01:30:12,400
Speaker 2: their toughness. You play that game. Those are tough dudes.

1850
01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:15,280
Speaker 2: I'm just saying the way they play and the way

1851
01:30:15,320 --> 01:30:19,400
Speaker 2: we play offense in the in the the the type

1852
01:30:19,400 --> 01:30:22,839
Speaker 2: of leverage we play with and the size and strength

1853
01:30:23,400 --> 01:30:25,879
Speaker 2: does not allow us to be physical. I'm not questioning

1854
01:30:25,920 --> 01:30:28,479
Speaker 2: tough That's my point.

1855
01:30:28,720 --> 01:30:31,320
Speaker 3: I just want to make sure, like you always say,

1856
01:30:31,320 --> 01:30:33,880
Speaker 3: Cam Robbins is the toughest offensive lineman that they have

1857
01:30:33,960 --> 01:30:34,920
Speaker 3: when he plays, I didn't know.

1858
01:30:34,920 --> 01:30:36,559
Speaker 2: I don't say he's in the toughest. He has the

1859
01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:39,560
Speaker 2: most attitude and he's the nastiest offensive lineman and a

1860
01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:42,400
Speaker 2: half I think, like, let me tell you what, Like

1861
01:30:42,479 --> 01:30:46,880
Speaker 2: Brandon Sheriff, he's at the end. He's an old I mean,

1862
01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:49,439
Speaker 2: he's in playing guard as you get older, and he's

1863
01:30:49,479 --> 01:30:52,479
Speaker 2: not the biggest man. He's big for an average person,

1864
01:30:52,479 --> 01:30:55,560
Speaker 2: but like in NFL circles, he's not like this gigantic,

1865
01:30:56,200 --> 01:31:00,720
Speaker 2: thick dude. He's an athletic guard and he does not

1866
01:31:00,800 --> 01:31:04,320
Speaker 2: have the legs that he once did. He's a good

1867
01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:09,960
Speaker 2: pass walker, he is great pulling. He's not gonna physically

1868
01:31:10,080 --> 01:31:12,720
Speaker 2: move a big man. It's not his game right now.

1869
01:31:13,640 --> 01:31:15,719
Speaker 2: But if you ask me, his brand and Shareff tough.

1870
01:31:16,040 --> 01:31:20,360
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, the dude is tough as nails. He

1871
01:31:20,479 --> 01:31:25,160
Speaker 2: shows up every Sunday, plays through pain, fights his tail

1872
01:31:25,200 --> 01:31:27,640
Speaker 2: off in the like every play so he did in

1873
01:31:27,680 --> 01:31:30,200
Speaker 2: the last month last season. The core thing, the.

1874
01:31:30,280 --> 01:31:31,120
Speaker 5: Dude is tough.

1875
01:31:31,400 --> 01:31:35,920
Speaker 2: So please when you hear me fans and like Leon

1876
01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:40,600
Speaker 2: and I were no tougher than these guys, that's that's ridiculous,

1877
01:31:40,640 --> 01:31:45,120
Speaker 2: that's moronic. These guys are tough dudes. It's a different

1878
01:31:45,160 --> 01:31:49,679
Speaker 2: game with different rules, and I don't change my opinion.

1879
01:31:49,720 --> 01:31:52,400
Speaker 2: I don't think they're a physical group. They don't move people.

1880
01:31:52,439 --> 01:31:54,400
Speaker 2: That's what I mean by physical. I just want to

1881
01:31:54,439 --> 01:31:56,679
Speaker 2: make sure that is crystal clear, because I will never

1882
01:31:56,800 --> 01:32:02,360
Speaker 2: question unless it is so obvious a guy toughness on

1883
01:32:02,400 --> 01:32:06,439
Speaker 2: the offensive line, especially those are five tough dudes. Walker Little,

1884
01:32:06,479 --> 01:32:10,040
Speaker 2: what he did and what Ezra Cleveland did playing through injury.

1885
01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:12,640
Speaker 4: That's toughness, all right, They got my respect. We are

1886
01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:17,559
Speaker 4: clear crystal Crystal clear? Am I clear? Crystal crystal clear

1887
01:32:17,680 --> 01:32:20,280
Speaker 4: or crystal crystal. I can have the reporter reading back

1888
01:32:20,320 --> 01:32:24,800
Speaker 4: to you three eight one. Maybe the most important question

1889
01:32:24,840 --> 01:32:27,200
Speaker 4: that he asked is what Tony BISSELLI is getting beat

1890
01:32:27,280 --> 01:32:29,240
Speaker 4: Briscoe for christal Ah col.

1891
01:32:31,360 --> 01:32:34,880
Speaker 3: Col I don't know he ade so he gave me

1892
01:32:34,920 --> 01:32:35,759
Speaker 3: an attitude today.

1893
01:32:35,760 --> 01:32:36,439
Speaker 5: So beats the.

1894
01:32:36,400 --> 01:32:37,800
Speaker 4: Bad beats the bad elf.

1895
01:32:39,160 --> 01:32:41,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm what are you talking about?

1896
01:32:42,040 --> 01:32:43,240
Speaker 5: Your well?

1897
01:32:43,240 --> 01:32:44,759
Speaker 2: I mean you have to, I mean you have a stature.

1898
01:32:44,840 --> 01:32:48,360
Speaker 2: I'm the bad Elf. I'm then you're not tall enough

1899
01:32:48,360 --> 01:32:49,040
Speaker 2: for the the Grinch.

1900
01:32:49,760 --> 01:32:52,040
Speaker 5: I'm the Grinch. I'm I'm the I'm the angry Grinch.

1901
01:32:52,800 --> 01:32:55,360
Speaker 5: I'm just a realist. You're a pump on waiver.

1902
01:32:58,040 --> 01:32:59,920
Speaker 2: You can get the most set of pomp poms Tony's.

1903
01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:00,600
Speaker 2: You could get it.

1904
01:33:01,000 --> 01:33:04,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, Oh gosh, let's come back in a moment around

1905
01:33:04,920 --> 01:33:08,639
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1906
01:33:09,120 --> 01:33:18,360
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1907
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1908
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1909
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1910
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1912
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1913
01:33:34,240 --> 01:33:40,120
Speaker 4: and Go Jags. Jackie Chadwick, that's Tony Boselli, Pete Prisco.

1914
01:33:40,920 --> 01:33:44,720
Speaker 4: The Jaguars dropped one to the Ravens yesterday, so the

1915
01:33:44,760 --> 01:33:48,760
Speaker 4: playoff races are heating up, Pete. And here we are

1916
01:33:48,760 --> 01:33:52,519
Speaker 4: with three weeks to go, and hey, the NFC is interesting.

1917
01:33:52,560 --> 01:33:55,160
Speaker 4: Philly plays tonight. They've lost two in a row, and

1918
01:33:55,200 --> 01:33:57,960
Speaker 4: they're on the road in Seattle and all of a sudden,

1919
01:33:58,000 --> 01:34:00,679
Speaker 4: the Cowboys. I mean, what in the world happened to them?

1920
01:34:00,880 --> 01:34:03,120
Speaker 2: Can I say something about the Cowboys? I'm gonna give

1921
01:34:03,439 --> 01:34:06,400
Speaker 2: Pete credit. Here's my Christmas present to Pete. Oh that's nice.

1922
01:34:06,600 --> 01:34:09,040
Speaker 2: Pete said it three weeks ago. I think it was

1923
01:34:10,280 --> 01:34:15,360
Speaker 2: that Buffalo has found something and nobody wants to play them.

1924
01:34:15,520 --> 01:34:17,120
Speaker 2: And when he said it, I was like, whatever.

1925
01:34:17,760 --> 01:34:21,160
Speaker 4: You know, Pete's such a Josh Allen fan, the other

1926
01:34:21,320 --> 01:34:24,479
Speaker 4: Josh Allen, not our Josh Allen that I'm like, he's

1927
01:34:24,560 --> 01:34:29,080
Speaker 4: just you know, you know, fanboy and Josh Allen and

1928
01:34:29,080 --> 01:34:31,880
Speaker 4: the Bills. Pete was right, what they found was a

1929
01:34:31,960 --> 01:34:34,519
Speaker 4: running game sixty six yards last night.

1930
01:34:34,560 --> 01:34:36,280
Speaker 2: But they're a much.

1931
01:34:36,479 --> 01:34:38,400
Speaker 4: I don't know what happened, Pete, And I don't watch

1932
01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:39,439
Speaker 4: them enough. I know you do.

1933
01:34:40,520 --> 01:34:42,960
Speaker 2: They are the team, they might be the best team

1934
01:34:43,000 --> 01:34:48,280
Speaker 2: in the AFC right now, correct, and they might not

1935
01:34:48,400 --> 01:34:49,480
Speaker 2: make the playoffs.

1936
01:34:50,120 --> 01:34:54,040
Speaker 3: Their defense has gotten a lot better to Okay, they

1937
01:34:54,080 --> 01:34:57,640
Speaker 3: got guys back. Young guys are playing better. But the

1938
01:34:57,680 --> 01:34:59,920
Speaker 3: offensive line has really come off.

1939
01:35:00,760 --> 01:35:01,439
Speaker 5: Really come on.

1940
01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:05,360
Speaker 3: I mean they were just malling dudes on Sunday and

1941
01:35:05,400 --> 01:35:08,040
Speaker 3: they protected better. Spencer Brown, you know him, the right tackle.

1942
01:35:08,040 --> 01:35:10,360
Speaker 3: He's had a rough couple go the last couple of years.

1943
01:35:10,400 --> 01:35:12,679
Speaker 3: He's healthy. Now he's playing really good at right tackle.

1944
01:35:13,160 --> 01:35:15,000
Speaker 3: So I think he add it all up. You know,

1945
01:35:15,120 --> 01:35:16,600
Speaker 3: Josh Allen's gonna give you what he can give you.

1946
01:35:16,640 --> 01:35:18,800
Speaker 3: They didn't even need him on Sunday, didn't even need him.

1947
01:35:19,120 --> 01:35:21,280
Speaker 3: They're the best team in the AFC right now. They

1948
01:35:21,280 --> 01:35:23,559
Speaker 3: would be the to me, they'd be the favorite if

1949
01:35:23,600 --> 01:35:25,160
Speaker 3: they can get in. I don't they might not even

1950
01:35:25,160 --> 01:35:25,439
Speaker 3: get in.

1951
01:35:25,520 --> 01:35:27,519
Speaker 2: Well, they're eight and six right now, but they're outside

1952
01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:29,000
Speaker 2: because of tiebreakers, right, Pete.

1953
01:35:29,439 --> 01:35:30,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, But here's the thing, Tony.

1954
01:35:30,720 --> 01:35:33,479
Speaker 3: They win the next two Miami loses either the Dallas

1955
01:35:33,840 --> 01:35:37,120
Speaker 3: or Baltimore, which they could lose both of those. Yeah,

1956
01:35:37,160 --> 01:35:39,360
Speaker 3: the final game of the season in Miami will be

1957
01:35:39,400 --> 01:35:40,640
Speaker 3: for the division title.

1958
01:35:40,920 --> 01:35:44,000
Speaker 4: And probably flex to Sunday night. I would guess yeah,

1959
01:35:44,040 --> 01:35:48,559
Speaker 4: I'll say this. The Dolphins aren't beating.

1960
01:35:48,320 --> 01:35:51,960
Speaker 5: The Ravens, not at Baltimore.

1961
01:35:52,120 --> 01:35:55,240
Speaker 2: No, they're not physical enough. And I don't think they're

1962
01:35:55,240 --> 01:35:58,000
Speaker 2: beating the Cowboys either. Is it in Miami, that's at home,

1963
01:35:58,080 --> 01:36:02,240
Speaker 2: that's at home. Yeah, they could though they could, they

1964
01:36:02,280 --> 01:36:08,599
Speaker 2: could beat the Cowboys. They are not beating the Ravens. No, nope.

1965
01:36:08,600 --> 01:36:12,240
Speaker 3: So if Miami loses and then Josh Allen has owned

1966
01:36:12,280 --> 01:36:13,719
Speaker 3: the Dolphins the way.

1967
01:36:13,640 --> 01:36:14,920
Speaker 2: And who does Buffalo left?

1968
01:36:15,720 --> 01:36:18,960
Speaker 3: They have at the Chargers with Eastern sticks, Okay, that's

1969
01:36:19,560 --> 01:36:21,360
Speaker 3: that's they get New England at home.

1970
01:36:21,520 --> 01:36:23,720
Speaker 4: That's a win, it I mean it's going yeah.

1971
01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:25,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1972
01:36:25,280 --> 01:36:28,400
Speaker 4: So at eleven and at ten and seven, do they

1973
01:36:28,439 --> 01:36:28,720
Speaker 4: get in?

1974
01:36:30,600 --> 01:36:33,840
Speaker 3: Well they would if o Miami, oh Buffalo, if they

1975
01:36:33,880 --> 01:36:37,160
Speaker 3: lost that last game you're talking about, there's a possibility.

1976
01:36:38,479 --> 01:36:41,639
Speaker 4: Monday Night football, we headed the Pacific Northwest. The ten

1977
01:36:41,680 --> 01:36:44,280
Speaker 4: and three Philadelphia Eagles look to rebound from back to

1978
01:36:44,320 --> 01:36:47,000
Speaker 4: back losses with a new defensive play caller. They face

1979
01:36:47,120 --> 01:36:50,080
Speaker 4: the six and seven Seattle Seahawks, who dropped four straight

1980
01:36:50,400 --> 01:36:54,120
Speaker 4: ratings high in Detroit, and Eagles win secures the Lions playoff.

1981
01:36:54,160 --> 01:37:01,479
Speaker 2: Berth. Who you got tonight? I got Philly. How about

1982
01:37:01,520 --> 01:37:05,719
Speaker 2: Matt Patricia gonna be like, what is what's going on there? Pete?

1983
01:37:05,920 --> 01:37:08,240
Speaker 3: They made a change on the side. The defense has

1984
01:37:08,240 --> 01:37:10,839
Speaker 3: been terrible. They're twenty ninth in the league in past defense.

1985
01:37:10,880 --> 01:37:13,280
Speaker 3: They're terrible in defense. So I get it. I think

1986
01:37:13,320 --> 01:37:15,080
Speaker 3: it's gonna be high scoring. I think it's gounda be

1987
01:37:15,080 --> 01:37:17,080
Speaker 3: a lot of points. Both quarterbacks are you know, we

1988
01:37:17,080 --> 01:37:19,160
Speaker 3: don't know hers his status. It looks like he's gonna play,

1989
01:37:19,760 --> 01:37:21,640
Speaker 3: but I think the Eagles will find a way to

1990
01:37:21,680 --> 01:37:22,200
Speaker 3: win this game.

1991
01:37:22,360 --> 01:37:25,760
Speaker 4: Hey, no no show next week, Pete. I'm Merry Christmas.

1992
01:37:26,000 --> 01:37:28,080
Speaker 3: Hey have a great Christmas, guys, and no show the

1993
01:37:28,120 --> 01:37:29,040
Speaker 3: following week either.

1994
01:37:29,240 --> 01:37:32,479
Speaker 4: That's right, Merry Christmas, Happy New Year. We're seeing twenty

1995
01:37:32,520 --> 01:37:33,040
Speaker 4: twenty four.

1996
01:37:33,400 --> 01:37:35,520
Speaker 2: Wow, Happy New Year. Merry Christmas.

1997
01:37:35,680 --> 01:37:39,400
Speaker 4: De brisco, Tony Vasselli, our entire crew, I'm JP Shaffick.

1998
01:37:39,439 --> 01:37:41,800
Speaker 2: Thank you for listening. Its Jaguars Happy Hour.