WEBVTT - Yah-sure, oh y'betcha 0:00:03.120 --> 0:00:06.000 Oh for sure, for sure. Don't worry, Oh, don't worry 0:00:06.000 --> 0:00:07.880 about it. Welcome to like a virgin of the show 0:00:07.880 --> 0:00:11.600 where we talk about hot dishes, bars, parking, our cars, diet, 0:00:11.640 --> 0:00:21.200 soda coke, don't you know? So this week Rose and 0:00:21.280 --> 0:00:25.080 I will be going back to the roots and discussing 0:00:25.160 --> 0:00:28.480 one of the first things we ever kind of flowed 0:00:28.520 --> 0:00:33.440 as an option for topics on this podcast, which was yeah, 0:00:33.479 --> 0:00:35.400 literally one of the first ideas we had is like, 0:00:35.400 --> 0:00:38.720 oh my god, frand you've never seen dropped at Gorgeous. 0:00:38.800 --> 0:00:41.440 And also I was furious when I found out Fran 0:00:41.520 --> 0:00:44.320 had never seen dropped at Gorgeous. We will also be 0:00:44.400 --> 0:00:48.480 talking about, you know, the many incredible films of First 0:00:48.560 --> 0:00:52.360 and Done, Britney Murphy, and also maybe like a little 0:00:52.360 --> 0:00:56.760 bit more pageant culture, because this is like a virgin 0:00:56.880 --> 0:01:00.480 the show where we give yesterday's pop culture today's takes. 0:01:00.600 --> 0:01:03.720 I'm ros damn you and I'm Fran Toronto and uh, 0:01:04.560 --> 0:01:06.840 I guess it's time to put on our trs and go, 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:10.959 go go. You're one in a million. That's the song 0:01:11.080 --> 0:01:17.720 from Miss Continuality. Have they Danced to? We talked a 0:01:17.760 --> 0:01:21.199 little bit about crimes in last week's episode well, I would, 0:01:21.319 --> 0:01:24.679 I say, talked about and more made fun of. How 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:27.880 could we have known that she would be so present 0:01:28.000 --> 0:01:31.360 in this week's news? This is really top of mind 0:01:31.400 --> 0:01:34.039 for me. Did you before we get into it, did 0:01:34.040 --> 0:01:38.480 you see all the various crimes drops that happened last week? 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:40.720 I believe the only thing I really saw was the 0:01:40.760 --> 0:01:44.600 fact that she had a second secret baby and secret baby. Okay, 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:47.560 but did you like read the excerpt from the interview 0:01:47.600 --> 0:01:50.680 in which her secret baby was revealed. No, it's so 0:01:50.760 --> 0:01:53.880 insane because what happened was she was doing an interview 0:01:53.920 --> 0:01:56.920 for a cover story for Vanity Fair, and the reporter 0:01:57.400 --> 0:02:01.160 as they're like talking for four hour or is here's 0:02:01.280 --> 0:02:05.320 two babies crying upstairs and has to be like, uh, 0:02:05.440 --> 0:02:10.080 is that do you have a second baby? And she's like, yes, 0:02:10.120 --> 0:02:14.320 I do. And like, obviously, I think partially she had 0:02:14.360 --> 0:02:17.720 to have known what she was doing. Yeah, if you 0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:21.079 if you're if you're actively concealing a baby, you shouldn't 0:02:21.120 --> 0:02:25.200 invite a reporter to your house. Obviously, celebrities deserve whatever 0:02:25.600 --> 0:02:29.400 privacy they can get. But like, it's so her to 0:02:29.520 --> 0:02:31.840 like have a secret baby with one of the worst 0:02:31.840 --> 0:02:36.400 men on the planet and then the Grimes news continued, 0:02:36.440 --> 0:02:40.640 because she's also dating Chelsea Manning, which to me is 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:43.919 dating Chelsea man Oh my god, you didn't see this. 0:02:44.600 --> 0:02:49.280 She's dat is very like does make a lot of sense, 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:53.240 but it's also very get a job, stay away from her. Yeah, wait, 0:02:53.320 --> 0:02:56.359 that doesn't make sense. It also feels like very I'm 0:02:56.400 --> 0:03:00.800 sorry posturing because you're dating the opposite of Elon mu essentially, 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:03.799 like what the fuck? But like, they do kind of 0:03:03.840 --> 0:03:07.119 make sense to me as a couple. You know, they're 0:03:07.160 --> 0:03:10.760 both fucking weirdo. What's most disconcerting about all of this 0:03:10.840 --> 0:03:13.440 is now we have to stay on the Grime speat. 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:20.240 We are Grimes. I have never left you. Oh wait, actually, 0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:23.560 speaking of absolutely whack things that we can read in 0:03:23.600 --> 0:03:27.920 the Hollywood Reporter, etcetera, we never discussed the Madonna boot count. 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:35.240 That's because I've been too busy at the Madonna boots. Sergeant. Yeah, 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:38.600 drilling the girls. Okay, so honestly, like so when you 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:41.200 when Annadelvie and Florence you come in, like, how do 0:03:41.240 --> 0:03:42.920 you how are you drilling them? Like? Are you being 0:03:42.960 --> 0:03:47.200 like no, like you to shave their heads? It's full 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:49.920 g I Jane shave their heads put a little put 0:03:49.960 --> 0:03:55.080 a little beauty mark right here, and then honestly, like, okay, 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:57.880 first of all, the Madonna movie is never happening, right, 0:03:58.200 --> 0:04:00.760 let's just let's just get that out there. But I 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:04.600 almost think that because it's never happening, like a movie 0:04:04.800 --> 0:04:08.720 about the Madonna boot camp is so much more interesting 0:04:08.800 --> 0:04:12.160 to me, like like a you know, like a documentary 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:15.280 or a mockumentary in the vein of drop Ed Gorgeous, 0:04:15.320 --> 0:04:20.080 which we're talking about today, I think would be so funny. 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:23.120 I mean, no matter what, this movie is going to 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:25.440 be terrible. There's there's no way it's not. Madonna has 0:04:25.480 --> 0:04:28.159 too much control of it. It's like that that meme 0:04:28.240 --> 0:04:31.400 of Snooky Typing going, this is going to be so bad. 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:35.200 Like that's literally that was Diabolo Coty writing the Madonna 0:04:35.200 --> 0:04:38.760 biopic before she quit or was fired, right, well, probably 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:41.600 a combination of the two. Yeah, I agree that the 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:47.280 quality will absolutely wane because of Madonna's like fervent involvement. 0:04:47.320 --> 0:04:49.880 I mean clearly Madonna is like I feel like she's 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:53.880 at this boot camp and just like truly like I'm 0:04:53.880 --> 0:04:56.720 thinking about Naomi Campbell on the face, just like screaming 0:04:56.720 --> 0:05:01.200 at these girls. Completely publicly human relating them. Um, but 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:04.400 I will say if Florence Pugh or Alexa to me 0:05:04.520 --> 0:05:08.640 are cast, I will absolutely enjoy the movie, no matter 0:05:08.680 --> 0:05:11.640 how garbage it is, because both of those as casting 0:05:11.680 --> 0:05:16.520 options are my celebrities. I actually think Florence Pugh, I 0:05:16.560 --> 0:05:19.400 think it's um, it's not right for where she is 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:23.400 in her career. I think actually, Alexa, to me it 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:26.400 makes more sense because like she does have like the 0:05:26.440 --> 0:05:31.240 buzz of euphoria behind her, but like is still relatively early. 0:05:31.440 --> 0:05:33.800 Well I mean we know that she's an agent being 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:37.279 because exist is a lot of time, but it's still 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:42.400 pretty early in her acting career. So I think that 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:44.400 to me makes more sense. But honestly, I think it 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:48.040 should be like an unknown and I say it's bad, 0:05:48.080 --> 0:05:50.479 but like, I just want to clarify, this is a 0:05:50.520 --> 0:05:54.080 Madonna stand podcast, at least my half of it. I 0:05:54.080 --> 0:05:55.960 I love Madonna and we're not going to see this 0:05:56.080 --> 0:05:59.840 day one. Yeah, I am a little madonster for when 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:04.599 there's watched it. Well it's a reference to um NECKI 0:06:04.680 --> 0:06:08.000 minij the real Ones. No, but yeah, we will obviously 0:06:08.040 --> 0:06:11.080 be seeing the Madonna biopic, which you know hopefully will 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:17.960 just forever kill this trend of like music biopics that 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:22.520 really should have died immediately after Bohemian Rhapsody. I have 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:24.920 faith that this is going to be good, but if not, 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:27.920 we at least get to do a Madonna episode, which 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:30.560 you know, should we see around Madonna episode? Anyway, she 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:32.760 is the reason why the podcast is named the way 0:06:32.800 --> 0:06:35.080 it is. Please don't see us, Please don't see us. Um, 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:41.320 did you watch drag Race this week? I did, unfortunately, 0:06:41.320 --> 0:06:47.080 watch this week's Drag Race, and I almost threw my 0:06:47.120 --> 0:06:49.840 TV out my second story window. Yeah, Snatch Game is 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:54.360 routinely unwatchable, but this was like it was a next 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:59.560 level kind of failure. And I to me, Michelle Vissage 0:06:59.600 --> 0:07:04.840 one Snatch Game like her investigation or my investigation, which 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:08.520 was so funny, and it was funny, and Rue kind 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:11.600 of tried to take it away from her. Yeah, well 0:07:11.720 --> 0:07:13.720 he I think they kind of became little a little 0:07:13.720 --> 0:07:16.840 like kind of comedy buddies on it. But like I 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:21.000 I do, I feel like over the last two seasons 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:25.720 or so, Rue is, you know, micro dosing something totally different, 0:07:25.960 --> 0:07:29.320 and her valves are much looser, you know, like she cares. 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:31.600 She's a little less composed, she kind of says more 0:07:31.640 --> 0:07:35.040 what's on her mind and like in recent years, and 0:07:35.120 --> 0:07:37.520 for her to be like when she was like no, George, 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:40.440 just like, don't get down on yourself. You were all 0:07:40.480 --> 0:07:43.920 equally as bad, Like that was so funny, very funny. 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:46.680 And they kind of were all equally as bad. Like 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:51.720 it really there was not like one standout stinker like 0:07:51.800 --> 0:07:55.760 there usually is. It was they were all bad. Yeah, 0:07:55.800 --> 0:07:58.960 and and even even Deja was bad. Yeah, even Deja 0:07:59.040 --> 0:08:02.080 was bad. The winner was like so lame. And I 0:08:02.120 --> 0:08:05.520 feel like, to me, I don't know, I hate standing 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:07.560 drag Race because I feel so basic. But I just 0:08:07.600 --> 0:08:10.680 have to say that this judge's panel is they're just 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:13.280 so good at what they do. And that was like 0:08:13.680 --> 0:08:16.280 one of the least entertaining sketches we've ever had to 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:19.280 endure on Drag Race, and they pulled so much entertaining 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:21.680 content out of it by way of the critique. Like 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:24.120 I was so entertained at the end of the episode. 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:26.880 It was so bad that to me, the season should 0:08:26.920 --> 0:08:33.720 have just ended right there. And I can't believe that 0:08:34.360 --> 0:08:38.560 no one was eliminating again, oh my god, wait, I 0:08:38.600 --> 0:08:42.240 didn't even eliminated. Someone's about to be eliminated. If not 0:08:42.320 --> 0:08:45.120 two people, hopefully it should be all of them. They 0:08:45.200 --> 0:08:48.680 all should have been eliminated. The season shouldn't be over. 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:51.800 But by that logic, Deja would have won. So no, no, no, 0:08:51.840 --> 0:08:55.280 I'm she should have been eliminated. To said, pack it 0:08:55.360 --> 0:08:58.480 up and up. If you were, there's so many of 0:08:58.520 --> 0:09:01.240 them left and were so far into this you were 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:06.280 to do um tough one to answer. I can't. I 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:10.000 can't do an impression of anyone. You definitely can. We've 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:15.240 heard it on this podcast. I'm sure. Honestly, I feel 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:17.000 like I would do. I feel like I was the 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:18.880 only one I could maybe think of his loving and 0:09:19.360 --> 0:09:22.520 like I feel like I could do a version of 0:09:22.520 --> 0:09:25.560 her that was like, you know, just transphobic. I don't know. 0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:28.040 I feel like I feel like I could pull it 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:31.000 off with a nice little breastplate and like a little 0:09:31.240 --> 0:09:33.120 but how would you make it funny? I don't know. 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:37.520 This is me, This is me ru coming into the 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:40.319 workroom and like, give me a little bit of your banana. 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:42.240 Oh no, this is the worst part. This is I 0:09:42.240 --> 0:09:46.640 would choke like Georgia's I'm sure I'd be like y'all. 0:09:47.120 --> 0:09:49.240 I don't know. I can't. And this is where I 0:09:49.240 --> 0:09:51.480 would tell you who else are you considering? And then 0:09:51.480 --> 0:09:54.720 I'd be like, um, I don't even know, I feel 0:09:54.760 --> 0:09:57.320 like I would. I actually okay, So here's actually the 0:09:57.360 --> 0:10:03.160 missed opportunity. Betsy Devas an extremely good choice for a 0:10:03.200 --> 0:10:06.080 snatch game, very smart, we don't know what she sounds like. 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:07.839 You get to do so much with this role. And 0:10:08.280 --> 0:10:15.079 Jasmine Kennedy looks astoundingly like like um fucking Betsy Devas, 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:17.280 like the same nose shape, the same face shape. It 0:10:17.360 --> 0:10:20.000 was like comical. When they showed a picture of Betty Bass, 0:10:20.000 --> 0:10:22.840 I was like, that is Jasmine Kennedy. But like again, 0:10:22.960 --> 0:10:26.319 these girls just boofed it. So further proof that Jasmine 0:10:26.400 --> 0:10:30.440 Kennedy should have gone home like three episodes ago. Yeah, yeah, 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:33.199 I don't even think that her lip sinking is that good. 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:35.360 Unfortunate that I do like her as a person. Know 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:38.440 her lip syncing is bad. That lip sync with her 0:10:38.600 --> 0:10:41.360 and Georgia's was not that good. Yeah, but she's she's 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:43.920 being poised or maybe she's positioning herself as this kind 0:10:43.960 --> 0:10:45.959 of lip sync assassin, and I'm just like, she's not 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:50.439 She's not one on that part to me, Um. Yeah, 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:53.679 this season of Drag Race, I'm I'm losing my patience 0:10:53.920 --> 0:10:57.640 and I'm losing interest very quickly. Thankfully, there's other TV 0:10:57.920 --> 0:11:01.120 to grab my attention, like Who Lose the Dropout, which 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:04.280 I'm currently obsessed with. Um. For anyone who doesn't know, 0:11:04.440 --> 0:11:09.120 it's a show about Elizabeth Holmes, the infamous scammer who 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:14.440 started Paraos. And you watched the first couple episodes, I 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:17.400 had no. I had no plans of watching it because 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:19.920 I just felt so burned by the last like nine 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:23.440 scammer cultural objects we've gotten. I was like, this is 0:11:23.480 --> 0:11:25.640 not going to deliver. And I also just don't care 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:29.880 about Elizabeth Holmes story. But Dan, did you watch did 0:11:29.880 --> 0:11:33.080 you watch the documentary? No? I did it? Um, I should, 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:36.680 I've heard. I've heard the documentary is amazing. I liked 0:11:36.720 --> 0:11:39.200 Going into a Cold. I think that that this show 0:11:39.400 --> 0:11:42.960 on like other scammer stories, like like kind of found 0:11:43.000 --> 0:11:46.440 a really good balance between what is a thrilling engine 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:50.400 for a story and like a nuanced portrayal of a scammer, 0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:52.960 And like there's usually this kind of tug and pull 0:11:53.040 --> 0:11:55.719 of like do we want to be extremely biographical and 0:11:55.800 --> 0:11:59.360 extremely like realist and nuanced or do we want to 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:03.080 be like totally you know, balls to the wall Ryan 0:12:03.160 --> 0:12:06.600 Murphy level kind of scammer story. Um, and I think 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:11.240 that this hit the sweet spot. Also, yes, it is 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:14.720 a very like good time capsule of like early two 0:12:14.720 --> 0:12:18.240 thousand's and I like that it's nuanced and like does 0:12:18.520 --> 0:12:23.120 humanize her through a really incredible performance by Amanda Say 0:12:23.200 --> 0:12:26.080 read Um, I think some of her best work. But 0:12:26.160 --> 0:12:28.719 it does not let her off the hook. And like 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:32.360 is it's not trying to do the thing that I 0:12:32.360 --> 0:12:35.800 think a lot of these like anti hero TV shows 0:12:35.880 --> 0:12:39.400 and like like do, which is like, here's why she 0:12:39.559 --> 0:12:41.440 is the way she is and isn't that awful? And 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:45.000 like don't you understand now? And it's like no, like 0:12:45.559 --> 0:12:50.200 you understand the positions she's being put in and and 0:12:50.320 --> 0:12:54.000 it's putting herself in and why she's making these bad decisions. 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:57.319 But and and like it like allows you to empathize 0:12:57.320 --> 0:12:59.360 with her, but does not let her off the hook 0:12:59.400 --> 0:13:02.199 and makes it very clear that she is a bad 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:05.360 person making bad decisions. Yeah, Like we're able to find 0:13:05.400 --> 0:13:08.600 a sympathetic portrayal it within the fact that she's like 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:10.719 really weird. And then we hear the story of her 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:13.360 sexual assault in college, which is really tragic and like 0:13:13.400 --> 0:13:16.840 really you know, beautifully played by Amanda, and like I 0:13:16.840 --> 0:13:20.240 felt like, you know, there's ways of humanizing horrible people 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:22.840 while still you know, keeping to the fact that like 0:13:22.920 --> 0:13:24.560 we don't we don't want to root for this person. 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:28.160 And it's almost like you know again, like I said, 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:30.280 like the kind of engine for the story is so 0:13:30.280 --> 0:13:32.600 strong because it's like, are they are they not going 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:35.000 to be able to you know, make this thing work 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:38.000 in time for like when they need it, which is 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:40.880 like I mean, it's just it's riveting, but like you're 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:44.080 kind of rooting for them to pull it off for 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:46.240 the sake of the rest of the team that she's 0:13:46.320 --> 0:13:49.480 kind of duped into doing this not necessarily for her sake, 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:52.719 which is like such a hard thing to do dramatically. 0:13:52.880 --> 0:13:55.520 Um that said, I don't want it to go full 0:13:55.600 --> 0:13:57.720 Ryan Murphy, but I do wish there was like a 0:13:57.880 --> 0:14:01.120 hair more whimsy, you know what I mean, Like I 0:14:01.160 --> 0:14:05.800 almost feel like it's too it's played pretty straight, but 0:14:05.920 --> 0:14:09.640 I like that because I think so much of what's 0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:13.360 come out about her has been pretty sensationalized, and I 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:16.200 think people want to understand the what and the why. 0:14:16.200 --> 0:14:20.240 Like I really loved the third episode, which is kind 0:14:20.240 --> 0:14:25.040 of all about her figuring out how to weaponize her 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:28.960 appearance and her womanhood, and like when she starts playing 0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:32.680 with doing the voice and like developed her uniform and 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:35.360 then like cries in front of a board meeting of 0:14:35.440 --> 0:14:39.720 men um like as like this tactic to like get 0:14:39.760 --> 0:14:43.120 away with being bad at her job. It's really fascinating 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:47.040 and I think, um, Like, there are some fun moments, 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:49.720 like in the most recent episode there's like a continuing 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:52.600 thing with Katie Perry's firework, which of course I loved, 0:14:53.080 --> 0:14:56.120 but I think it's really good at like showing and 0:14:56.200 --> 0:14:59.640 not telling why this person did what they did. And 0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:02.680 I really a great lesson on how empty your life 0:15:03.040 --> 0:15:06.440 is when like capitalism is like the sole driving force 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:08.880 of like because all she wants is to be a billionaire. 0:15:09.000 --> 0:15:11.280 That was her only goal, literally and that was like 0:15:11.440 --> 0:15:14.160 so that was like painted so clearly and like, but 0:15:14.320 --> 0:15:17.720 was also really depressing because there's so many people in 0:15:17.760 --> 0:15:21.720 the world like her who are obsessed with being billionaires 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:25.320 from really young ages because billionaires are so glorified and 0:15:25.440 --> 0:15:28.840 this society as like kind of a quasi class and 0:15:28.920 --> 0:15:32.680 tier of like celebrities and like Lucky for you and I, 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:36.080 we have found that capitalism is only one of many 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:40.160 driving forces in our lives as opposed. But I love 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:44.000 other things too, Yeah, things that I can buy with money. 0:15:44.120 --> 0:15:46.800 I am like very Marxists, but like, also, there's an 0:15:46.880 --> 0:15:50.320 essence sale right now, and there's actually isn't The essence 0:15:50.320 --> 0:15:53.440 sale just ended. The private sale has been devastating. Yeah, 0:15:53.480 --> 0:15:57.440 I had. I just returned a bunch of Well maybe 0:15:57.440 --> 0:16:00.800 now that I finally I convinced you to the dropout, 0:16:00.840 --> 0:16:03.800 you will also watch the marvelous Mrs Maisiel, which just ended. 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:06.520 And yeah, I actually I don't think it's for you, 0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:09.520 but I will say I'll just give like my quick 0:16:09.560 --> 0:16:12.040 review numb of the season's over. I thought most of 0:16:12.080 --> 0:16:15.160 it was pretty bad, and then the last episode won 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:18.120 me back and was very good. How is Harry? Harry 0:16:18.240 --> 0:16:20.760 was great? Harry was so good she I wish she 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:22.960 had been in it more. She was only in one scene. 0:16:23.400 --> 0:16:25.400 But yeah, for the most part, it was not a 0:16:25.440 --> 0:16:30.280 great season, but I did really like the finale. Um 0:16:30.360 --> 0:16:33.840 this weekend, you and I both watched Turning Red, the 0:16:33.960 --> 0:16:38.080 new Pixar movie, which is available on Just plus I 0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:41.880 loved it. It was so good. Yeah, I I had 0:16:42.520 --> 0:16:45.080 kind of low expectations. I was in it for santra 0:16:45.200 --> 0:16:47.560 O because I'll just like watch anything that she's in, 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:50.000 but I didn't even know santra was in it, going 0:16:50.800 --> 0:16:54.320 oh my gosh, you know she's the villain kind of 0:16:54.920 --> 0:16:57.600 um and so I don't know. I had really low 0:16:57.640 --> 0:16:59.840 expectations because I watched the trailer and I was like, 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:02.440 I don't really want to watch a whole movie about 0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:05.119 a red panda. Like I'm I'm very based in the 0:17:05.160 --> 0:17:07.000 real world, and I thought, I was like, this is 0:17:07.000 --> 0:17:09.720 gonna be Pixar's first flop. Is like literally what I thought. 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:13.879 I had no offense, but it was so gorgeous and 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:16.960 like to me, I mean, I get really emotional with 0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:20.479 grandma stuff, and I also get really emotional with chosen 0:17:20.560 --> 0:17:24.760 family stuff, and this was like such a beautiful story 0:17:24.840 --> 0:17:29.560 about how your friends and like your chosen fam can 0:17:29.600 --> 0:17:32.960 be a greater support system for you than your biological family. 0:17:33.040 --> 0:17:36.200 And like, I just never seen that in a cartoon before, 0:17:36.400 --> 0:17:39.360 Like it didn't was so cool to see a Disney 0:17:39.359 --> 0:17:45.960 movie tackling puberty. Yeah, so explicitly, yes, so explicitly, because 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:51.439 obviously is like this is the premise of the film 0:17:51.480 --> 0:17:55.840 is that there's this girl who like as she starts 0:17:56.280 --> 0:17:58.040 like I think the trigger for it is that she 0:17:58.040 --> 0:18:03.720 starts liking boys and then this like um magical well 0:18:04.000 --> 0:18:08.720 quote unquote curse that is in her family um gets triggered. Um, 0:18:08.760 --> 0:18:13.400 and she whenever she's super emotional, turns into a red panda. Um. 0:18:13.440 --> 0:18:17.880 And yeah, it's so obviously like an analogy about puberty, 0:18:18.240 --> 0:18:23.680 and I think that's so important for especially young girls 0:18:23.720 --> 0:18:26.000 to be able to see. And it was like really 0:18:26.040 --> 0:18:29.800 funny and sweet and was also there was a lot 0:18:30.000 --> 0:18:32.680 speaking of early two thousands nostalgia. It's set in two 0:18:32.720 --> 0:18:35.600 thousand two, and I think really captured what it was 0:18:35.640 --> 0:18:38.160 like to be a teenage girl in that time, and 0:18:38.240 --> 0:18:43.120 like the obsession with boy band. The music like actually 0:18:43.119 --> 0:18:46.320 slapped and I was watching the credits when the movie ended. 0:18:46.359 --> 0:18:48.720 It was all written by Billie Eilish and Phineas. I 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:51.639 had no idea, but it's it is that good. The 0:18:51.720 --> 0:18:55.160 music is something you want to return to. And yeah, 0:18:55.200 --> 0:18:57.080 I mean I loved it. And and to your point 0:18:57.119 --> 0:18:59.879 about like the puberty of it all, like I just 0:19:00.359 --> 0:19:02.840 you could tell the writers are in therapy, you know, 0:19:02.960 --> 0:19:06.199 like it felt like the movie was giving like kids 0:19:06.320 --> 0:19:10.199 tools and how to like cope with their anxiety and 0:19:10.280 --> 0:19:13.560 like what it like literal literal like kind of um 0:19:13.600 --> 0:19:17.720 cognitive behavioral therapy tactics to like deal with your anxiety. 0:19:17.720 --> 0:19:19.639 And I was like, that is like so like I 0:19:19.680 --> 0:19:23.080 wish I had even a fraction of a story like 0:19:23.160 --> 0:19:25.560 this that would have explained like what was going on 0:19:25.600 --> 0:19:28.480 in my head when I was thirteen, you know, But Disney, 0:19:28.640 --> 0:19:34.040 we need to have a conversation about, like about queer representation, 0:19:34.160 --> 0:19:37.440 which I like, I know it's storing topic to talk 0:19:37.440 --> 0:19:39.560 about when it comes to Disney because it's like we 0:19:39.680 --> 0:19:42.520 go through this every couple of months where it's like 0:19:43.040 --> 0:19:46.040 here's the first blah blah blah whatever in a Disney movie, 0:19:46.040 --> 0:19:49.400 and like it's never good representation and like they keep 0:19:50.160 --> 0:19:53.440 you know, alluding to things, and like there's definitely moments 0:19:53.440 --> 0:19:57.280 and turning red. I think that, um, you know, there's 0:19:57.359 --> 0:20:00.720 some sort of like coded queerness. Like I definitely think 0:20:00.720 --> 0:20:05.639 the The Bully is like is maybe gay, which I think, 0:20:05.840 --> 0:20:08.119 like I mean not to say that like if you like, 0:20:08.560 --> 0:20:11.040 well the Bully ends up liking the same boy band 0:20:11.520 --> 0:20:14.080 as the group of friends and they are all and 0:20:14.240 --> 0:20:16.080 like he joins the group of them, and he's kind 0:20:16.080 --> 0:20:18.840 of feminized in that moment. Yeah, And I'm not saying 0:20:18.880 --> 0:20:21.399 like you like if you like boybriends are gay, but like, 0:20:21.440 --> 0:20:26.840 but you kind of um. And then also I think 0:20:27.040 --> 0:20:31.439 May the main character, she has this friend who like 0:20:32.000 --> 0:20:34.960 presents very butch, and like they definitely have the closest 0:20:35.000 --> 0:20:38.520 friendship of everyone in the group. And I thought that 0:20:38.640 --> 0:20:42.960 like that, I like not that she has any romantic 0:20:42.960 --> 0:20:45.679 interactions with anyone, like, nor should she have to, Like, 0:20:45.720 --> 0:20:47.280 this is a movie about a thirteen year old girl. 0:20:47.280 --> 0:20:50.080 I'm not like trying to ascribe any sort of sexuality 0:20:50.119 --> 0:20:52.920 to her, but like there was a vibe between them, 0:20:53.160 --> 0:20:55.760 and it's at there was a little bit of a 0:20:55.880 --> 0:20:58.040 vibe and like, I'm not saying it needed to happen 0:20:58.040 --> 0:20:59.639 in this movie, although it would have been nice. I 0:20:59.680 --> 0:21:01.919 just want ear if there's one day we're like instead 0:21:01.960 --> 0:21:04.600 of talking about her crushes on boys, like, there will 0:21:04.640 --> 0:21:06.280 be a version of this movie where like she has 0:21:06.280 --> 0:21:10.520 a crush on her friend. Yeah, I think that it's 0:21:10.640 --> 0:21:13.560 were long overdue for a queer story, and like I 0:21:13.680 --> 0:21:16.240 say that with and I think it's really worth bringing 0:21:16.320 --> 0:21:19.760 up because of all this like stupid drama around like 0:21:20.200 --> 0:21:23.680 Disney's CEO or whatever supporting the Don't Say Gay Bill 0:21:23.880 --> 0:21:25.760 or all that ship and like yeah, and then which 0:21:25.800 --> 0:21:28.000 is now leading to all the celebrities to make videos 0:21:28.000 --> 0:21:30.600 where they just say gay over note, which is like 0:21:31.760 --> 0:21:35.200 we need to take away their Internet access. I this 0:21:35.280 --> 0:21:38.040 is like, I'm back, okay, I think this is what's 0:21:38.080 --> 0:21:40.399 talking about. I go back and forth on things like 0:21:40.440 --> 0:21:44.399 this because it's like any kind of advocacy is helpful advocacy, 0:21:44.520 --> 0:21:46.679 and I'm like proud of anybody who has gotten on 0:21:46.680 --> 0:21:48.800 their platform to talk about that Don't Say Gay bill. 0:21:49.160 --> 0:21:52.200 But we have been talking about trans kids in sports, 0:21:52.240 --> 0:21:56.960 which is a legally a much like wider spread epidemic 0:21:57.000 --> 0:21:58.840 across this country that has been going on for like 0:21:58.880 --> 0:22:02.359 the better part of two years, and like Texas like 0:22:02.520 --> 0:22:07.200 right now only just temporarily blocked like you know, investigation 0:22:07.240 --> 0:22:09.479 into like trans kids in sports, etcetera. But it's like 0:22:10.119 --> 0:22:13.000 I just like, I'm like, where's the energy around, like, 0:22:13.560 --> 0:22:17.480 you know, trans kids in sports that has been as 0:22:17.640 --> 0:22:20.520 as urgent of a problem where this don't Say Gay 0:22:20.520 --> 0:22:23.399 but which is obviously important impactful to the lives of 0:22:23.480 --> 0:22:28.520 queer and trans kids still, but like because it has 0:22:28.600 --> 0:22:30.640 the word gay in it, we just see a lot 0:22:30.720 --> 0:22:34.159 more people organizing around dude or I don't know, I 0:22:34.160 --> 0:22:36.440 think that's so. It's so it's also I think it's 0:22:36.480 --> 0:22:42.960 like they're the inherent like meme mobility of it is 0:22:43.160 --> 0:22:45.760 part of why I think it's being taken up by 0:22:45.800 --> 0:22:49.200 all these celebrities because it costs them nothing to just 0:22:49.320 --> 0:22:51.280 go like make a TikTok of them going ga ga 0:22:51.400 --> 0:22:54.399 ga ga ga gay gay. It's giving very much the 0:22:54.480 --> 0:23:02.439