WEBVTT - EP 118: Record Company Pimps w/ Alonzo Williams 0:00:00.800 --> 0:00:05.720 When I wrote, y'all all across the USC Compton Watts 0:00:06.360 --> 0:00:10.680 Bank to l A from on the California the Valley. 0:00:11.280 --> 0:00:14.200 We represent that kind of county. So if you're keeping 0:00:14.200 --> 0:00:16.840 it rail on your side of your town, you tune 0:00:16.880 --> 0:00:22.120 into Gangster Chronicles, Gangster the Goals. We're gonna tell you 0:00:22.160 --> 0:00:25.480 how we go. If I like my nose, will girl 0:00:25.520 --> 0:00:27.720 like Pinocchio. We're gonna tell you the truth and nothing 0:00:27.760 --> 0:00:32.600 but the truth. Gangster Chronicals. This is not your average show. 0:00:33.200 --> 0:00:36.680 You're now tuned into the Rail m C A. Bick, 0:00:36.800 --> 0:00:45.159 James and Bi Stails from the streets. Hello, where are 0:00:45.240 --> 0:00:48.640 you at? This is o G Gangster Granny and the 0:00:48.760 --> 0:00:53.400 Gangster Chronicles podcast is back in effect. Get ready for 0:00:53.440 --> 0:00:56.720 some of that ship. Welcome to the Gangster Chronicles podcast, 0:00:56.720 --> 0:00:59.840 the production of our Heart Radio and Black Effect Podcast Network. 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:02.600 Make sure you download the I Heard Happen. Subscribe to 0:01:02.600 --> 0:01:05.360 The Gangster Chronicles for my Apple users. Hit the purple 0:01:05.400 --> 0:01:07.840 mica on your front screen. Subscribe to Against the Chronicles 0:01:07.840 --> 0:01:09.959 and leave a five star rate in the comment. Welcome 0:01:10.000 --> 0:01:13.120 to another episode Against the Chronicles podcast. Um with my 0:01:13.280 --> 0:01:18.800 partners man, what's going on? Fellas shit? Damn man? I 0:01:18.880 --> 0:01:24.120 see your ass back from uh the motherfucking uhle skirts ship. 0:01:24.240 --> 0:01:26.120 Hell yeah, I was out there chilling man and the 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:30.000 beautiful Hawaiian beaches. It was cool out there. I'll tell us, motherfucker. 0:01:30.760 --> 0:01:33.520 He calls and go, yeah, man, we got two episodes 0:01:33.600 --> 0:01:36.200 and ship I send in against you your little anniversary 0:01:36.360 --> 0:01:39.440 right now. He go, yeah. But wife, he say, it's cool. 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:44.280 Let's get your mother and go get a motherfucking drink 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:48.000 with a motherfucking pineapple and umbrella. So the nigga posts 0:01:48.000 --> 0:01:51.160 on this page the picture with the pineapple and the umbrella. 0:01:51.760 --> 0:01:57.960 He got a motherfucking packer Reesee Peter buttercups. But what 0:01:58.080 --> 0:01:59.560 I want to know is why you didn't change your 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:02.040 shirt off and walked the beach. Oh I did. I 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:04.320 took my shirt off on there. You take no pictures out. 0:02:04.960 --> 0:02:09.280 But when was a MOI you know I was in. 0:02:11.600 --> 0:02:17.519 But check this out. It was so many beach man 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:21.800 that ship he's trying to get against man, but it 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:24.399 was so many bad body motherfucker's out there. I said, 0:02:24.400 --> 0:02:26.400 she let gonna take mu ship off. I like muscle 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:29.840 man saying this motherfucker prepare these motherfucker's. So I let 0:02:29.880 --> 0:02:32.320 my ship go, but they're looking like they're melting and 0:02:32.400 --> 0:02:39.520 ship like Milton Frost under the they don't need to 0:02:39.520 --> 0:02:41.480 be judged out. There isn't be too hot for my 0:02:41.680 --> 0:02:45.800 dead man, bad body motherfucker's. But we're back in the 0:02:45.800 --> 0:02:50.160 city of Compton. We were supposed to be. You know 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:51.800 what I'm saying, We're back in the city of Compton. 0:02:51.880 --> 0:02:55.600 Man with one of our guys lines though, man, what's happening. 0:02:55.680 --> 0:02:58.120 Man ain't like a chandel there. Just trying to shine, man, 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:01.200 just trying to shine. Sure, we as some controversy early. 0:03:01.280 --> 0:03:04.519 You know what I'm saying, We always got. It's always 0:03:04.520 --> 0:03:06.760 a controversy though it wasn't when I find my name 0:03:06.800 --> 0:03:09.920 of them ship. They don't be controversy and just be 0:03:10.000 --> 0:03:13.040 motherfucker's differences in opinions and ship. That's what I said. 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:16.480 Controversy controversy when you're trying to get ship sparked up 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:20.120 behind bullshit, that's what I conspiracy theories and all that 0:03:20.160 --> 0:03:22.800 type of basically your mother know what they're talking about. 0:03:22.840 --> 0:03:25.280 That's basically what they're talking about. What I'm saying, motherfucker 0:03:25.360 --> 0:03:28.480 don't know they're talking about trying to impose himself on 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:31.919 history based on some third and fourth hand knowledge. What happened? 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:35.320 Somebody madge something? You're saying, No, they said that. They said, 0:03:35.360 --> 0:03:38.120 I screwed eight out of his publishing. I never had eight, 0:03:38.160 --> 0:03:40.119 but never signed to me. No, no, no, what it 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:41.960 was was, I said, I know NIM screwed me out 0:03:42.000 --> 0:03:43.960 of my publishing, and then they always get me in. 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:47.280 They don't confume exactly because because they ran, you know, 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:52.200 they was parting exactly exactly. No, I never never was 0:03:52.320 --> 0:03:55.600 never Alonzo stole my publishing. Everybody know it was unknown. 0:03:55.680 --> 0:03:58.240 But but but it's safe to say Alonso was the 0:03:58.280 --> 0:04:01.760 type motherfucker when they came indate money, you get them 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:07.080 when it came to there that they was on my 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:10.200 copy compilations, right, Okay, they came to me with slip. 0:04:10.840 --> 0:04:13.800 Chill tells the story. Chill. When Chill tell the story, 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:16.640 they heard about me through easy came over to my 0:04:16.680 --> 0:04:20.400 house driving a car with no brakes on. The motherfucker. Okay, 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:25.600 got to the pad father, they said. Chill tells the story, like, uh, 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:28.239 go to Guardina and the far they was gonna Guardina 0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:31.479 might as well have been the motherfucking uh Arizona because 0:04:31.480 --> 0:04:33.440 they didn't know where it was they found what my 0:04:33.480 --> 0:04:36.839 pad was hooked up with Slip. I put him, he 0:04:36.839 --> 0:04:39.040 put him on the compilation. They was dope, put him 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:42.119 on the compilation. It was them. Uh the white boy, 0:04:42.720 --> 0:04:45.840 it was the name he was. I don't know why 0:04:45.880 --> 0:04:49.279 everybody think he looked like he looked likely was light scared. 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:54.400 He was transparent. Um and there's old man. We did 0:04:54.440 --> 0:04:56.320 a thing called this is Compton. It was one of 0:04:56.360 --> 0:04:59.720 the dopel songs on the album No we did too Far, 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:04.960 too fun right, too folky and then um it was. 0:05:05.040 --> 0:05:07.080 It was one of the dopest songs on the album 0:05:07.400 --> 0:05:11.159 Unknown got um took them in, made a demo or 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:16.839 something like that. We Um, I'm out, we um Me 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:20.360 and Chill started sucking around. Uh, you know junior high 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:26.040 school conscience most wanted gang banging whatever. Um. We actually 0:05:26.560 --> 0:05:29.960 was fucking with this nigger name kool Aid and Kivin. 0:05:30.320 --> 0:05:36.040 They were some singing nicklas. They was coming to fucking 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:39.400 our guess get down for you or whatever. We just 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:43.200 happened to be tagging alongs because we knew that they 0:05:43.320 --> 0:05:47.000 was going to Alonzo's, you know Alonzo Alonso, Wreck and 0:05:47.040 --> 0:05:50.880 Crew whatever. We don't know shit about Slip or Unknown. 0:05:51.400 --> 0:05:53.839 We get there, you had studio on the back. We're 0:05:53.839 --> 0:06:02.080 going to back. Um, Known was there, Slip was there. Um, 0:06:02.200 --> 0:06:03.960 they was supposed to do some ship for you. I 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:07.520 don't know what they did, sung or whatever, but I 0:06:07.600 --> 0:06:10.919 guess Unknown and Slip was like, what y'all do? Me 0:06:10.960 --> 0:06:14.960 and Chill had a little demo tape, played the song 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:18.599 and that's when Slip was saying he was he was 0:06:18.640 --> 0:06:22.000 doing the compilation we did. The Compton compilation was a 0:06:22.000 --> 0:06:24.600 song called Rhymes Too Funky had It got a lot 0:06:24.600 --> 0:06:30.840 of motherfucker's on there. Um, shout out my nigger, slip Um. 0:06:30.960 --> 0:06:36.360 From there we started working with Unknown. Um. I don't 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:40.600 know how that happened, but we went to techno. How 0:06:41.960 --> 0:06:45.839 we did this is Compton a song called give It 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:49.520 Up and I Give Up Nothing. Three songs on the 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:53.279 on the little single whatever, and uh that's how we 0:06:53.360 --> 0:07:00.200 got That's how we got cracking mm hmm. I and 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:04.800 in that was not in that. This is this is 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:10.040 techno hop and me because me and Unknown been Dallas. 0:07:10.360 --> 0:07:13.400 We it's three it's three day one dudes on West 0:07:13.440 --> 0:07:18.760 Coast me whatever on the West coast period right right, 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:21.120 it's three people. That was day once on the West 0:07:21.160 --> 0:07:25.560 Coast me Roger Clayton and unknown. I met Roger Clayton 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:28.080 with an unknown. I was already doing my thing. I 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:30.800 read Roger an unknown together. They were hanging out together, 0:07:31.040 --> 0:07:33.760 an unknown joy my team. He joined me and even 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:36.960 after dark. So we've been doing things together in nineteen seventy, 0:07:37.240 --> 0:07:40.880 nineteen seventy eight together, so we've been we've been boys 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:43.600 for that long. So when he came to me he 0:07:43.640 --> 0:07:46.040 wanted to do something with them. I wasn't tripping because 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:48.080 we had a gang of acts and had a whole 0:07:48.120 --> 0:07:50.240 album full of acts. He wanted to tell you, wanted 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:51.960 to do something when he got some money for him 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:54.280 and give me, give me something, God damn for fine, 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:57.000 just for your something. He gave me fift gave my blessings, 0:07:57.040 --> 0:07:59.320 go ahead, do your thing. So apparently he wouldn't giving 0:07:59.360 --> 0:08:02.040 in that breed that nobody he cauldn't even get that. 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:03.200 But I don't know what it was. You know what 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:05.400 the deal was, Okay, I don't know what to do 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:10.280 to do the techno how single. I don't know if 0:08:10.320 --> 0:08:15.680 we made any money. Honestly, Um, after we did the single, 0:08:15.960 --> 0:08:21.520 we automatically got picked up by orps okay, and then 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:25.520 we started working on the album. UM we signed the 0:08:25.600 --> 0:08:31.920 Big Beat, which was Unknowns production company. Okay. And how 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:35.720 I got funked out of my publishing It's because Unknown 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:40.040 had me signed a contract for recording with Big Beating, 0:08:40.640 --> 0:08:43.280 but he stapled a publishing contract on the back of 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:48.640 the contract after I signed it, so labels didn't give 0:08:48.679 --> 0:08:53.760 a fuck because I was going through him. I was seventeen, 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:57.000 I was still living at home with Moms. I signed 0:08:57.040 --> 0:08:59.240 a contract and Moms didn't even know, and then they 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:03.360 added it to the contract. He added a publishing contract, 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:06.320 which means all the songs and nobody ever wrote any 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:10.439 rap for me. I wrote every fucking rap I've ever done, 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:13.439 but I never got paid for the ship I wrote 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:18.079 because a known had his publishing company when he slapped 0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:22.240 the contract on that. When he slapped the contract on 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:25.160 the back, all the publishing for my songs that I 0:09:25.320 --> 0:09:28.280 wrote went to Grandma's hands. What about the writers? Though 0:09:28.280 --> 0:09:29.520 I just supposed to come to you no matter what, 0:09:29.679 --> 0:09:32.200 I didn't get anything, the writers still supped to come 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:34.439 to you. I didn't get ship. I didn't get ship. 0:09:35.200 --> 0:09:37.360 Him signed the seventeen He can really tend to go 0:09:37.480 --> 0:09:41.000 back right now and like I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. 0:09:41.040 --> 0:09:43.800 I didn't like you. Let me tell you something. I 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:47.120 was a young nicka banging from Compton. My dream was 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:51.800 to make records, Okay. I wasn't smart enough to know 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:55.679 Ship about publishing and all that Ship and writers. I 0:09:55.840 --> 0:10:00.480 got the studio with Slip. He produced the beats I did, 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:04.840 the wraps are known, work the deals. That's it, okay. 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:11.080 The problem with came for me was I wasn't getting 0:10:11.080 --> 0:10:15.600 the royalties nothing. I wasn't seeing Ship known to give 0:10:15.679 --> 0:10:19.400 me some bread up front. And then I didn't even 0:10:19.480 --> 0:10:23.240 know what he was getting until we fell out. I 0:10:23.280 --> 0:10:30.240 didn't know he was getting ninety hundred thousand from Orpheus Capital. 0:10:31.000 --> 0:10:37.280 Give Orpheus X amount to fifty is what they was 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:42.839 kicking up. Charles take one sixty off the top like 0:10:43.080 --> 0:10:49.680 fuck that? Okay? That leave what grand? A? No pocket? 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:52.040 That ship he give me about two or three grand. 0:10:52.360 --> 0:10:54.800 I don't know what he was giving Slip, but that's 0:10:54.800 --> 0:10:58.200 what I made off the first album. I probably made 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:03.559 about three grand. Okay. Then I'm went tripping. Fucking next 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:06.360 album comes straight checking them. I do Growing Up in 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:10.319 the Hood. The single major movie all of that. Um, 0:11:11.640 --> 0:11:13.640 we get the budget to do straight check. I don't 0:11:13.679 --> 0:11:15.760 know what the budget is still I'm in the dark. 0:11:16.400 --> 0:11:19.839 He come and say, hey, Bingo, maybe give me about 0:11:19.920 --> 0:11:23.600 five grand, seven grand. At that point, hey, y'all don't 0:11:23.640 --> 0:11:27.760 sign contraction. Already had a contract. I was signed the 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:30.440 Big Beat production I'm talking about to do the ship 0:11:30.520 --> 0:11:32.400 you was doing. You didn't have to sign nothing, or 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:36.240 you didn't have to do nothing. No, because he was 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:39.680 already locked into like a four or five album deal 0:11:40.080 --> 0:11:43.679 with Orpheus. So because I was signed the Big Beat, 0:11:45.040 --> 0:11:47.800 that was it. So you was basically account They was 0:11:47.920 --> 0:11:53.480 milking and ship out of your word. So so, like 0:11:53.559 --> 0:11:57.440 I said, even then, whatever he was getting, whatever, the budgets, whatever, 0:11:57.960 --> 0:12:00.839 he breaked me off, break slip off a little bit. 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:03.920 I don't know what he was keeping whatever. Like I said, 0:12:03.960 --> 0:12:06.920 I'm still at the house on Johnson Street and Spooltown 0:12:07.360 --> 0:12:10.880 living and with my sister in the apartment. Wasn't tripping. 0:12:11.640 --> 0:12:14.679 We had the number one song in the country, straight 0:12:14.760 --> 0:12:18.840 checking them was out, We're touring the country. Whatever. Everything 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:22.400 was good. Okay, music to drive by come. This is 0:12:22.480 --> 0:12:27.160 when I started doing Minutes to Society. Um, me and 0:12:27.280 --> 0:12:33.480 a no fell out because he just he didn't think 0:12:33.559 --> 0:12:36.120 I knew anything. He still treated me like a little 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:38.959 young nigga from the hood. The nigga he would just 0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:42.439 I think the nigga took a thousand dollars out of 0:12:42.480 --> 0:12:44.880 my money. One day, you know, nigga, meet me at 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:49.319 American Savings. He breaks us all, I look at my bread. 0:12:49.880 --> 0:12:52.040 He said, I took a thousand dollars out your bread 0:12:52.160 --> 0:12:56.280 to buy your motherfucking portable dat machine. So what the 0:12:56.360 --> 0:12:59.600 funk I need that ship for. Well, you're doing shows, 0:12:59.679 --> 0:13:01.840 you need need to take that was like, dude, let 0:13:01.880 --> 0:13:04.000 me decide what I want to do with my money. 0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:06.640 So we fell out right there in the parking lot. 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:12.720 He go over the Slips that night, drunk as a motherfucker. 0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:18.600 He leaves his check book. Slip call me, I don't 0:13:18.679 --> 0:13:21.640 leave his check book here. I should make a copy 0:13:21.720 --> 0:13:24.439 of the motherfucker straight up, I tell Slip, make a copy. 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:30.480 Excuse me, Slip makes a copy, Give me a copy 0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:33.480 of it. We go through the motherfucker. The nigger got 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:36.760 a publishing deal for seventy grand. Didn't give me but 0:13:36.880 --> 0:13:41.079 two thousand bucks. I wrote all of the songs, Damn, 0:13:41.760 --> 0:13:44.959 I wrote every fucking song I ever put out. You 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:47.800 get a publishing deal. You ain't wrote no songs to 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:51.280 get a publishing deal for my writing skills. Gave me 0:13:51.440 --> 0:14:00.400 two three grand. Didn't see no money. Yeah, but see 0:14:00.480 --> 0:14:02.760 my thing is, that's why I left. That's when I 0:14:02.920 --> 0:14:05.400 fucking went and got a lawyer and the ship fell 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:10.160 apart because I get it. You get your piece because 0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:13.120 I'm signed the big Beat whatever, But that publishing and 0:14:13.200 --> 0:14:18.520 the writers, that's my ship. That's my ship. You get me. 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:21.000 Nobody helped me when I was sitting up in the 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:24.640 studio when when when the homie chill went down and 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:27.280 I still had a three album deal because we moved 0:14:27.280 --> 0:14:31.320 an epic Okay, I had to write all them fucking songs. 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:34.400 So I'm up late night, you know what I'm saying, 0:14:34.840 --> 0:14:38.800 missing my daughter's fucking practices, and I didn't see my 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:42.000 daughters grow up because I'm on the fucking road trying 0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:46.560 to be CMW writing these albums. And you you can't 0:14:46.600 --> 0:14:49.880 suck me'll know money like that. You can't. I'm still 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:53.880 living in Gowndon and a nigga gets seventy eight grand 0:14:54.360 --> 0:14:58.320 for right for the songs I write, and you don't 0:14:58.440 --> 0:15:02.120 feel you don't feel that I deserve my something, my 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:04.960 money for writing. You know what, it's a certain point 0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:08.600 like that's just all that's beyond greed. I don't know 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:11.440 what the funk it is. Ain't that the way it's 0:15:11.440 --> 0:15:14.280 supposed to be alone, That's ain't that how they deal 0:15:14.400 --> 0:15:17.840 with this ship? That's the industry versions. I believe. I'm 0:15:17.880 --> 0:15:22.800 one firm believer. Dad, you play your partner. I was 0:15:22.840 --> 0:15:25.560 a young nigga. A known brought us in. He put 0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:29.000 us in. I didn't say ship for three fucking albums. 0:15:30.360 --> 0:15:34.880 Count them three, Okay, while I'm still driving his Suzuki 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:37.880 Samurai living in Compton. My nigga got a house in 0:15:37.960 --> 0:15:40.600 the seeing No, what a funk? He got a dog 0:15:40.720 --> 0:15:45.880 worth more than the money I'm getting. Come on, I 0:15:46.000 --> 0:15:48.960 don't got a ten thousand dollar German Shepherd and I 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:53.720 ain't making that in publishing money. Okay, that's what I'm 0:15:53.760 --> 0:15:57.320 talking about. I don't deserve that ship. So that was 0:15:57.480 --> 0:16:00.760 my complaint. I'm over this ship now. I'm grown ass, 0:16:00.840 --> 0:16:05.600 fifty year old motherfucking man. You feel me, and I again, 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:09.840 I feel as an artist in that time, even in 0:16:09.960 --> 0:16:13.200 this time, you got to get fucked. You gotta pay 0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:16.840 your dues. I believe in that, so I don't complain 0:16:16.960 --> 0:16:20.960 about ship. But at a certain time you gotta go. 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:26.840 Let's be straight up. That's it. Okay, nigga, we haven't 0:16:26.840 --> 0:16:30.160 done three albums blah blah blah, so that's how we've 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:32.400 been to cut the pie up. Now. You can't just 0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:35.440 keep going fun that you don't deserve, Nigga, I don't. 0:16:36.120 --> 0:16:38.760 I'm I'm n eighteen years old. Trying to write these 0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:41.240 fucking someone was tripping me out more than anything else 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:44.360 because I worked in publishing. He took the niggas writers. 0:16:46.040 --> 0:16:48.800 You know, usually in the in the in the record game, 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:53.240 the producer, whoever make the beats and whoever write the 0:16:53.320 --> 0:16:59.040 lyrics usually spit the writers and the publishing the game 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:01.760 go because got to write the music so you can wrap, 0:17:02.040 --> 0:17:05.359 you can write the rats. So usually the producer of 0:17:05.480 --> 0:17:10.280 the music and the writer of the world. It depends 0:17:10.280 --> 0:17:12.680 on you know, and you also got different kind of 0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:18.159 different type of uh splits depending on who did what 0:17:18.400 --> 0:17:20.240 over here, who did what over there. You can see 0:17:20.560 --> 0:17:22.360 that that's the part of people, that's that's the part 0:17:22.359 --> 0:17:24.359 of the game that they don't teach your ands they 0:17:24.359 --> 0:17:25.960 don't want you to know about that part of the game. 0:17:26.560 --> 0:17:29.160 They almost got me, but they didn't get me because 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:32.480 I had a coach but coming into the game. So 0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:35.160 when I came into the game, it was a whole 0:17:35.240 --> 0:17:36.880 it was a whole different situation. I had a coach 0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:41.520 coming in, so I learned about publishers before they sucked me. Okay, 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:44.080 I didn't understand it for a long time because you 0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:46.159 tell me, I got a whole, a whole riding to 0:17:46.240 --> 0:17:50.680 share and a whole uh publisher share. They equal, but 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:55.439 they separate like this is the easiest way I explained 0:17:55.480 --> 0:17:57.439 to people. It's like you got a pot right right, 0:17:57.920 --> 0:18:00.840 split that pot in the middle right, then you gotta 0:18:01.000 --> 0:18:04.320 you know, you're really getting like a fourth or something. Technically, 0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:06.080 you see what I'm saying, You're really getting like a fourth. 0:18:06.160 --> 0:18:07.760 It's like a piece of pie. You got this, you 0:18:07.800 --> 0:18:10.960 split this right, you split that. What happens here is, though, 0:18:11.200 --> 0:18:13.560 you get some people that get greedy, right and they 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:15.480 come in and they want to take this right here 0:18:15.760 --> 0:18:17.639 and just leave somebody with a little you know what 0:18:17.680 --> 0:18:19.480 I'm saying. You know, if somebody eat a ball of 0:18:19.560 --> 0:18:22.199 pie and just not to be an asshole, they're leave 0:18:22.200 --> 0:18:24.800 a little sliter or some ship. Motherfucking that's how the 0:18:24.840 --> 0:18:27.080 ship is. Well, you know what, Also, here's the here's 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:30.119 here's the nature of the beast. Which is really fucked 0:18:30.200 --> 0:18:33.879 up is that they take advantage of the youngsters. Okay, 0:18:34.160 --> 0:18:36.600 the youngsters coming there hungry, two rounds, a lot of 0:18:36.640 --> 0:18:41.000 money back then a lot of money and James, when 0:18:41.000 --> 0:18:44.159 you're on the block where we came from, and then 0:18:44.240 --> 0:18:50.119 megahnd you two three grand aper man, please some khakis 0:18:50.200 --> 0:18:53.560 and ship a couple of motherfucking pair cortels, pack of 0:18:53.640 --> 0:18:57.080 fresh white teas, and I got the Suzuki look and 0:18:57.160 --> 0:18:59.800 you got to be kidding, and they got dog balling. 0:19:01.400 --> 0:19:05.120 But the cold part about it is that that's been 0:19:05.160 --> 0:19:08.600 the games. His records was round. That's been the game. 0:19:08.760 --> 0:19:11.040 Just records was round. But you know what, you would 0:19:11.040 --> 0:19:14.159 think the lines of that. Brothers saw the bullshit that 0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:17.240 they went through, and they turned around and sign motherfucker's 0:19:17.240 --> 0:19:20.440 and do the same. Damn. Here's the funked up part. James, 0:19:20.960 --> 0:19:24.480 I was doing seminars on fucking Facebook during the COVID ship. 0:19:25.119 --> 0:19:27.520 Motherfucker's don't tune in. They don't give a funk about 0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:29.239 that ship. They don't give a funk about us till 0:19:29.240 --> 0:19:33.920 it's too late. You can't tell them. Famous at a 0:19:34.080 --> 0:19:36.159 team that he needed to slow down and get his 0:19:36.280 --> 0:19:39.920 get his business right. Perfect example, blue Face. Blue Face 0:19:39.960 --> 0:19:42.360 went of the breakfast club Chotte made. The guy asked him. 0:19:42.760 --> 0:19:44.920 He says, hey, man, you got your in the straight. 0:19:44.960 --> 0:19:46.680 Oh man, I don't worry about that. My people take 0:19:46.680 --> 0:19:52.160 care of all that. Okay. So you got a situation 0:19:52.240 --> 0:19:55.360 where a cat don't care. He don't know, he don't care. 0:19:55.600 --> 0:19:59.600 What was he getting some pussy, some money and some drugs? Low? 0:19:59.680 --> 0:20:02.240 Was he high for? You know, long enough to low? 0:20:02.320 --> 0:20:04.159 He said, Hi, long enough to do what he're gonna do. 0:20:04.400 --> 0:20:11.760 I was simply come down us youngsters coming from that environment. 0:20:12.280 --> 0:20:14.639 I mean, like I said, my dream was the motherfucking 0:20:14.800 --> 0:20:17.640 put on the fat dukie rope and riding the limousine. 0:20:18.440 --> 0:20:22.280 Like Bey told you. I had a couple of pictures 0:20:22.320 --> 0:20:25.919 and write on and word up rolled in the limousine 0:20:26.119 --> 0:20:28.879 and had a chain on and the motherfucking gold watching 0:20:28.920 --> 0:20:33.600 the Nugget ship. I didn't give the fuck. I thought 0:20:33.680 --> 0:20:36.040 that was it. You couldn't have asked me. Snow Ship 0:20:36.160 --> 0:20:39.480 Writers publishing The fund is that nik. I gotta check 0:20:39.600 --> 0:20:43.760 the other day. I didn't know about that ship, so 0:20:43.960 --> 0:20:46.960 none that you're older and know what they did. And 0:20:47.080 --> 0:20:51.800 these motherfuckers was making thousands of dollars and giving you nothing. 0:20:52.800 --> 0:20:54.879 I would be piste off and I would be like, man, 0:20:54.960 --> 0:20:58.240 don't you you shouldn't. Shouldn't you make that right? I mean, 0:20:58.320 --> 0:21:00.879 y'all fuck me. You know something that makes you go 0:21:01.480 --> 0:21:03.680 and if you get a Reford, do you do that 0:21:03.800 --> 0:21:09.000 to the same version. I mean, that's why I've never 0:21:09.920 --> 0:21:14.320 had an artist under myself. I don't want to be, uh, 0:21:14.800 --> 0:21:17.960 you know, accused of that. I mean, you know, I 0:21:18.040 --> 0:21:20.119 don't know if you take the route of nigga's got 0:21:20.200 --> 0:21:22.600 to pay their dues and you're gonna take their publishing 0:21:22.760 --> 0:21:26.520 or whatever. I mean, but that's what just happens. But 0:21:26.600 --> 0:21:29.320 the thing, this is more than enough money do the 0:21:29.440 --> 0:21:32.600 right thing. It's more than enough money to do the 0:21:32.960 --> 0:21:36.440 naive as a kid Now today, I don't I mean, 0:21:37.200 --> 0:21:40.439 I don't regret ship. Still get off of that ship today, 0:21:41.160 --> 0:21:46.000 I don't know. I would think, yeah, but no, but 0:21:46.160 --> 0:21:49.720 he still owns the publis That publishing could possibly revert 0:21:49.800 --> 0:21:52.359 back to you though, because you signed that contract in seventeen. 0:21:52.680 --> 0:21:54.440 It's a whole bunch of people. That's our teena. Marie 0:21:54.480 --> 0:21:56.760 got out of the contract with more time. But like 0:21:56.920 --> 0:22:00.480 you said, it's just a hey like hey like, it's 0:22:00.520 --> 0:22:03.920 no motherfucking billion sit there and ship like you know 0:22:03.960 --> 0:22:08.560 what I'm saying years ago, Man, come on, no no more. Yeah, 0:22:08.680 --> 0:22:12.119 I'm not like I've seen her, know on the freeway. 0:22:12.480 --> 0:22:16.680 You know, uh we bypassed each other, you know. Uh, 0:22:18.560 --> 0:22:20.840 rest in peace to Cindy. You know what I'm saying. Um, 0:22:21.560 --> 0:22:23.880 I've seen him on the freeway. Like I said, I don't. 0:22:24.480 --> 0:22:26.520 I wasn't the type of motherfucker who felt like I 0:22:26.640 --> 0:22:31.120 needed to get with him. Now. I wasn't taking out 0:22:31.160 --> 0:22:33.680 the lunch. But I don't have no motherfucking ill wills, 0:22:33.840 --> 0:22:36.600 Like I'm ready to get in the motherfucker face and 0:22:36.720 --> 0:22:38.600 have it out. Like I said, I'm too mature for 0:22:38.680 --> 0:22:41.040 that ship right now. It's a lesson that I learned. 0:22:41.200 --> 0:22:44.200 You get me. I know about writers and publishing, the 0:22:44.320 --> 0:22:47.800 deals I do today, motherfucker's gonna do no deals. I publishing, 0:22:47.840 --> 0:22:50.359 the writers everything. It's good. So it was a lesson learned. 0:22:50.760 --> 0:22:55.080 But I have to tell motherfucker's about my situation because 0:22:55.080 --> 0:22:58.440 a lot of people be not understanding artists went through 0:22:58.520 --> 0:23:02.080 certain things, and they be expecting, motherfucker's, man, how come 0:23:02.119 --> 0:23:04.639 you ain't living on top of the hills and you 0:23:04.720 --> 0:23:07.399 ain't got the fuckingness and that, and then I have 0:23:07.560 --> 0:23:10.680 to explain to motherfucker's how ship go just because you 0:23:10.800 --> 0:23:12.760 see ship. And then a lot of ships made believe 0:23:12.920 --> 0:23:15.680 well when they see you in uh in movies and 0:23:16.800 --> 0:23:19.720 oh yo yo yo albums and ship, they figured there's 0:23:19.760 --> 0:23:22.680 a lot of money attached exactly, you know what I'm saying. 0:23:22.760 --> 0:23:25.480 So that's where they get it from. They believe, oh 0:23:25.520 --> 0:23:28.800 they my fucking rich, you know, in contracts and contracts 0:23:28.800 --> 0:23:32.440 as crazy as funk. Because Jerry Hill always says he 0:23:32.600 --> 0:23:35.639 never got food. Once you signed a contract, that's what 0:23:35.680 --> 0:23:40.000 you agreed to, Okay. So if you're getting a piece 0:23:40.040 --> 0:23:43.600 of Ruthless, because it's it's how his deal restriction. He 0:23:43.720 --> 0:23:48.160 managed Ruthless records, Easy E, n w A, and each 0:23:48.240 --> 0:23:54.120 member of n Way separately. So if Phoebs gave Ruthless 0:23:54.320 --> 0:23:58.439 money he got when RUFUS paid easy Eat, he got 0:23:59.680 --> 0:24:05.960 when Rufus paid Yeller dre q R. That was a deal. 0:24:06.080 --> 0:24:08.879