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Speaker 1: Which has been the issue with Kirk Cousins in Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: he's been on some pretty good teams, and he put

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Speaker 1: he plays right away. He's at least, you know, managing

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Speaker 1: games for you. He's not costing you games, and you

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Speaker 1: have a running game and a defense or a well

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Speaker 1: rounded roster. It's like the Russell Wilson Seahawks. What the

431
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Speaker 1: Patriots did this year? Right? You know? And is mac

432
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Speaker 1: Jones a world beater? Does he have elite traits? No?

433
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Speaker 1: But they went ten and seven with him in his

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Speaker 1: first year. They're expect him to get better this year.

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Speaker 1: I think that's logical to assume. But what's the ceiling there?

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Speaker 1: They're gonna find out in the next three years what

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Speaker 1: the ceiling is. And if he can't do better than

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Speaker 1: a ten or an eleven win season and can't win

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Speaker 1: a playoff game, do you think he's getting a second

440
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Speaker 1: contract there? No? No, because if you can't win the

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Speaker 1: whole kitten kaboodle, why are you going to hand that

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Speaker 1: guy forty eight million dollars a year by the time

443
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Speaker 1: his contract comes up. There's different different tiers of success,

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Speaker 1: no question about it. There's certainly there's division winners and

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Speaker 1: playoff teams. You know, now there's fourteen playoff teams, seven

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Speaker 1: at each conference, so you've got that level of competency

447
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Speaker 1: and win ability of games. But you get into a

448
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Speaker 1: spot where the Bills were last year, the Chiefs were,

449
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Speaker 1: the Bengals were, and the Niners and the Rams, the Packers,

450
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Speaker 1: all these playoff teams that got in there. The teams

451
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Speaker 1: that started to elevate late in the season were the

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Speaker 1: ones that had a guy. They had that guy. They

453
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Speaker 1: had They had Josh, they had Pat they had Aaron Rodgers,

454
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Speaker 1: they had Matt Stafford, even Joe Burrow. They had those guys,

455
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Speaker 1: and you almost have to make the decision as a franchise.

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Speaker 1: They listen, we want a guy that we can win

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Speaker 1: games with and we're gonna get the playoffs, and we're

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Speaker 1: just gonna take our chances in the playoffs. And they're

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Speaker 1: you know, certainly there are teams and clubs willing to

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Speaker 1: do that, but there are also teams that, like like Indianapolis,

461
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Speaker 1: and they get squeezed out of the playoffs just by

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Speaker 1: the skin of their teeth. And let's not forget, no

463
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Speaker 1: Bills fans wanted any part of the Colts last year

464
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Speaker 1: coming back here in the playoffs, Yeah, we wanted no

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Speaker 1: part of that, and they didn't even get in. So

466
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Speaker 1: there are different ways to win games. But ultimately, you

467
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Speaker 1: think you're gonna get in the big game, And look

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Speaker 1: at that game in Kansas City for the Bills and

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs and the playoffs. You gotta have a guy

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Speaker 1: to get by those jokers. And you think that, you don't.

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Speaker 1: You think the Chiefs are saying, man, we gotta have

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Speaker 1: our guy or we're not getting by the Bills, you know,

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Speaker 1: the Bengals, same thing, the Chargers, even some of these

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Speaker 1: teams that can't get in the playoffs. Yeah, you can

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Speaker 1: win in the regular season all that, but if you're

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Speaker 1: gonna hit for a championship, so what are you gonna

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Speaker 1: pay a guy for just to win games? Getting the playoffs?

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Speaker 1: Nobody wants to do that anymore. Well, there are some

479
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Speaker 1: teams willing to do it, like like Washington, and there

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Speaker 1: might be another team that says, well, we don't have

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Speaker 1: anything here right now, I'll trade for Jimmy Garoppolo because

482
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Speaker 1: he's better than anything and get on the free agent

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Speaker 1: market right now, which is probably topped by Teddy Bridgewater. Nah,

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Speaker 1: Trubisky is still Tough Trubisky. Okay, so yeah, he's in

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Speaker 1: Boch Trubisky, Jimmy Garoppolo. Because the draft class isn't giving

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Speaker 1: you anybody that's gonna win you ten games in year one. Don't.

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Speaker 1: It's just not right. It's just not see. I think

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Speaker 1: a guy like in the right circumstances. We're looking at

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Speaker 1: the list. Now, we've got Teddy Bridgewater, Jamis Winston, Mitch Drubisky,

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Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick, Andy Dalton, Cam Newton, Marcus Mariota. That's the

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Speaker 1: best list. Now, that's the best pick out. Like, take Bridgewater,

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Speaker 1: Jamis Winston, who has played pretty well for the Saints

493
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Speaker 1: last year before he got hurt, Trubisky, Fitzpatrick, Dalton, just

494
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Speaker 1: those top five guys. If you took three of the

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Speaker 1: best guys. There are teams out there who's think, all right,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna win ten games with that guy out ten

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Speaker 1: and seven, and we're gonna get it. We're gonna get

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs. There's only a handful of teams that

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Speaker 1: want to pay that guy top dollar in order to

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Speaker 1: do it. Washington's one of them, because they're so desperate

501
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Speaker 1: to get out from under the shadow of what they've

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Speaker 1: been going through. Just give us something, right, they got

503
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Speaker 1: a horrible stadium, horrible situation, and ownership under under intense

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Speaker 1: scrutiny as an organization. Their name changed twice twice. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they just give us something. So they're desperate. They'll pay

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Speaker 1: top dollar for that. But nobody else, not too many

507
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 1: other teams are gonna say, all right, I'll give you

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Speaker 1: forty million dollars to come in and be k Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But and that's that's why, that's why a situation like

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Speaker 1: Cleveland's is so interesting. They're gonna probably have Baker Mayfield

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Speaker 1: play on the fifth year option year, which is eighteen

512
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Speaker 1: and a half million dollars for him. What are they

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Speaker 1: doing after that? The franchise him? Are they one year?

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Speaker 1: He better have a banner year if they want, If

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Speaker 1: he wants them to do that, draft a guy they're

516
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Speaker 1: drafting somebody next year. You wraft a guy next year,

517
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Speaker 1: franchise him, let him and then get rid of him.

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Speaker 1: If he doesn't get it done this year, he is

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Speaker 1: g O and he gone no way. True, But no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: they'll think about it. We're think about the list of

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Speaker 1: names Cleveland had the twenty three guys. I understand that

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Speaker 1: Mayfield might be twenty four. Well Mayfield ends that list.

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Speaker 1: He was a pretty good player for him, he you know,

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Speaker 1: was he yes, And I'll say this that the organization

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Speaker 1: wants stabbed him in the back because they had eight

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Speaker 1: He had that I asked half of the season. When

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Speaker 1: they got rid of Hugh Jackson, Freddie Kitchens came in

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Speaker 1: and they won like eight and went eight and one

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Speaker 1: or something. They gave Freddy Kitchens the job, which is

530
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Speaker 1: a little bit like giving Larry the cable guy the job.

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Speaker 1: And it showed the next year. I mean, that's what

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Speaker 1: he looked like. And you never tell you what we're

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Speaker 1: gonna do here. That's right, get her done. And that's

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Speaker 1: what happened. They stunk the next year because Freddy Kitchens

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Speaker 1: was in over his head. Yeah, and now they're you

536
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Speaker 1: know now they're back now. Then now if Baker got

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Speaker 1: knicked up this last year, he's getting hurt all the time,

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Speaker 1: his shoulders off shoulder. You know, they don't want to

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Speaker 1: go back to that. They don't, But they also want

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Speaker 1: to go somewhere in the playoffs, which they haven't been

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Speaker 1: able to do with him either. With a star studded defense,

542
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: a great offensive line, and an unbelievable running game. Still

543
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: can't get it done. To fancy, He's got to do better.

544
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Speaker 1: Still can't get it done. He's got and the quarterback

545
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Speaker 1: and the head coach are usually the one that are

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Speaker 1: on the hook for that stuff. They don't They don't

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Speaker 1: do it with Mayfield. Next year, he is g o

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Speaker 1: n Egon. He is gonna be somewhere else, and there

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Speaker 1: may be a quarterback needy team out there that says,

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Speaker 1: here's the good let's give it a go because we

551
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: got nothing. Here's the good thing. I think it's gonna

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00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: be Cleveland and Baltimore next year in the AFC North.

553
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh's gonna take a year for a new quarter depending

554
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: on who they get. Cincinnati, what happened and Cincinnat's edge.

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00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: Cincinnati's gonna remember their Cincinnati and they're gonna come back

556
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Speaker 1: to earth. Wow, not even be a wild look at

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00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: their history. Well I know their history, but they're not

558
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 1: even gonna be a wild card. They'll have some they'll

559
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 1: have a couple of tough breaks. Oh that's too bad,

560
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: and they're gonna just they're gonna miss and it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be it. Yeah, that's what's gonna I know you've told

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Speaker 1: me about. That's what's gonna happen to the Cincinnati Bengals. Okay, opinion, Okay,

563
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: so it's gonna be Cleveland and Baltimore. Now you know

564
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: Lamar is gonna come back, and it may get acrimonious

565
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: with them now because you know, well, and there's another example.

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Speaker 1: Look at all the problems Baltimore is having now. They've

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Speaker 1: got to throw people overboard because when Lamar Jackson was

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Speaker 1: on his rookie contract, they signed some guys, they signed,

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00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: two thirds of their CAB money went to defense. Now

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00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: they're on the cusp of possibly paying Lamar Jackson forty

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Speaker 1: five million a year and they're throwing defenders overboard because

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00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: they can't pay him anymore. Right, what are you doing there?

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Speaker 1: Is Lamar taking it to the Promised Land? You're asking

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Speaker 1: that question about a former league MVP because he's limited

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Speaker 1: in some areas of his game. They don't know if

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Speaker 1: they have a top tier quarterback. They're in a quagmire

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Speaker 1: right now. And most people half the teams in this

578
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: league would kill to have Lamar Jackson. And they're sitting

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Speaker 1: there going, man, well do we pay this guy forty

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Speaker 1: five million a year. That's the thing, and we got

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Speaker 1: a break here. It's a perfect it's a perfect example

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Speaker 1: of what we're talking about. Lamar Jackson's like he's MVP

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Speaker 1: and he had but we didn't win anything one playoff game, right,

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Speaker 1: and you gotta sit there and scratch your face, do we? Yeah?

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00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 1: And that's that's after the Baltimore Ravens went all in

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Speaker 1: for his skill set. We're we're gonna get blocking Van

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00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: the offense, blocking wide receivers, Tighten's new offensive line. We'ren't

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Speaker 1: doing it at all. And it worked. I mean they

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00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: were they were hard to be fourteen and two the

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Speaker 1: year he was MVP now and didn't win a playoff,

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Speaker 1: and now it's like, yeah, you know, you know, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we gotta take a break. But the quarterback conversation will continue.

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Speaker 1: Asking you today, will a third quarterback needy team swing

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Speaker 1: a trade for another quarterback before the free agent market

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Speaker 1: opens next Wednesday? You let us know yes or no?

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Speaker 1: And why give us a call EO three oh five

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Speaker 1: fifty one eight eight five fifty two five fifty or

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Speaker 1: hit us up on the tweet sheet back in a second.

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Speaker 1: Here on one Bills Live presented by Collid to Health

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Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, welcome back. You

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Speaker 1: want to builds live, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you,

602
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: and so more cuts around the league are happening. Lions

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00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 1: are going to be releasing defensive and Trey Flowers, a

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00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 1: veteran defensive lineman formally of the Patriots, went over and

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00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: signed with the Lions in free agency a few years

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00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,280
Speaker 1: back when Matt Patricia was their head coach, and now

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Speaker 1: he is going to be released. Has missed a lot

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Speaker 1: of games due to injury the past two years, so

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Speaker 1: the cost probably does not match the production on the field.

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Speaker 1: So Lions looking to save a little money on the

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Speaker 1: cap before the market opens there. Let's go to the

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Speaker 1: phones though at eight oh three five fifty one eight

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Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty as we are asking

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Speaker 1: you will a third QB needy team swing a trade

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Speaker 1: for one before free agency and leaving us off? Today?

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Speaker 1: Is Dan in Erie, Dan, what do you have for us?

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Speaker 1: You're on one Bills live. Hey guys, Yes, it's been

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Speaker 1: a whoolwin liqu couple of days with a quarterback market, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, assuming that the Bills would probably lose us,

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Speaker 1: do you think that they would make a move to

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Speaker 1: try to bring in Jimmy Corroppolo. I think Garoppolo is

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Speaker 1: probably going to be looking for a starting job somewhere

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Speaker 1: before he considers something like you know what Trubisky took

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Speaker 1: here in both, I don't think a guy like Garoppolo

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00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,280
Speaker 1: would be willing to be a backup, and not yet anyway,

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00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: not yet, although you know that's how he started his career.

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Speaker 1: Now he's been a starter for a while. And this

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Speaker 1: is a guy that took the forty nine ers to

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Speaker 1: the Championship Game last year and the Bowl and the

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Speaker 1: Series Bowl comps before that. So he's not a guy

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Speaker 1: without some expectations for what he's worth. And I think

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Speaker 1: he's not gonna settle for being a backup, and the

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Speaker 1: Bills aren't going to pay him anything in the ballpark

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Speaker 1: of what he would be expecting even to be a backup. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so no, I don't think. I don't think Jimmy Garoppolo

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Speaker 1: is on the is on the menu for any team

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Speaker 1: in the NFL to trade for him to be a backup,

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Speaker 1: and knowing the Bills are likely to be tight against

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Speaker 1: the cap and have some other holes to fill, that

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Speaker 1: figure to play a lot more on the field than

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Speaker 1: your backup quarterback, provided Josh stays healthy. I don't see

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Speaker 1: them investing a ton of money in the backup quarterback

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Speaker 1: position they want to editor, and yes that much is known,

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Speaker 1: but they're not going to be paying a one year,

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Speaker 1: ten million dollar contract for somebody. They're looking for one

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Speaker 1: year somewhere between three and five million a year for

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Speaker 1: what you want your backup quarterback to do in the

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Speaker 1: best case. In a best case scenario, I'd rather have

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Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick. He'd be a tenth of the cost. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you can get him probably for one year three million

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Speaker 1: dollars and yeah, Garoppolo's like, you know, might be three

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Speaker 1: times like yeah, he's like eight figures at least. So

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Speaker 1: I think i'd rather have Ryan Fitzpatrick because it's in

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Speaker 1: best case scenario. He's not playing, but he's that guy

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Speaker 1: in the quarterback room that's helping John. You know how

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Speaker 1: you know fits is he's gonna be the total mentor

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Speaker 1: tutor voice kind of bouncing off and and he's incredibly intelligent.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna help Josh a ton in that room. And

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Speaker 1: at age thirty nine, and he knows his role and

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Speaker 1: he'll play. That's what I'd rather have him than Garoppolo

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Speaker 1: best case scenario for the Bills. Now, if the guy

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Speaker 1: has to play, I want Garoppolo. I like Garoppolo better

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Speaker 1: than fits at this point on the field. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: you know, if Josh goes down, I mean, we're all

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Speaker 1: folding up our tent anyway, so he right, well not

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Speaker 1: if he only misses a week or two. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: I get it. But so there you have it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: That's where I'm at with this whole thing. I get

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Speaker 1: your point getting You want to the best backup you

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Speaker 1: can possibly get. But in the best case scenario, it

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Speaker 1: is what I said. You want a guy that's gonna

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Speaker 1: play that role, not be the best player necessarily, but

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Speaker 1: be the best backup quarterback, which means a lot of

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Speaker 1: other stuff off the field and in the quarterback room.

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Speaker 1: And Dan our caller. Dan might be somewhat of a

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Speaker 1: reflection of the fan expectations for the backup quarterback position.

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Speaker 1: They had this great backup quarterback last year in Mitchell Trubisky,

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Speaker 1: and now Bills fans are like, oh, well, we'll just

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Speaker 1: get the next guy that's just as good as him,

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00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 1: and I fans are going to realize very quickly. What

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Speaker 1: a luxury the Bills had at the backup quarterback position.

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Speaker 1: Last year. We had the best top match in the conference,

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Speaker 1: in the division. Topping that this year is going to

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Speaker 1: be supremely difficult not for a number of reasons. Number one,

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Speaker 1: you convinced a former starter to come here and reset

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Speaker 1: his career and then cash in this year in free agency,

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Speaker 1: which he undoubtedly will. And then number two, the quarterback

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Speaker 1: market this year on, as far as free agency goes,

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Speaker 1: is poor, and the draft class might be worse. So

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Speaker 1: beggars can't be choosers now at the backup quarterback position.

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Speaker 1: Not to mention the fact that Buffalo's cap situation is

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Speaker 1: still strained, shall we say, even if they continue to

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Speaker 1: make cuts, which I think we're still expecting to a

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Speaker 1: certain degree. But let's see what you think on the

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Speaker 1: tweet sheet brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the

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Speaker 1: official equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills. Will a

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Speaker 1: third QB needy team swing a trade for another terback

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Speaker 1: before the free agent market opens? Jack leads us off

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Speaker 1: and says, I believe either Cousins in Minnesota or Jimmy

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Speaker 1: G in San Francisco, or both will be packing a

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Speaker 1: suitcase and changing address before the weekend is out. I

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Speaker 1: have a feeling Pittsburgh, Carolina, New Orleans, maybe Houston could

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Speaker 1: all be looking to make a move. Please Lord, keep

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Speaker 1: Watson out of Pittsburgh. Yeah, Deshaun Watson in Pittsburgh. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: a problem. Well, although it'd be a little bit like

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Speaker 1: the AFC West, how much. Let me ask you this,

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Speaker 1: to have a couple of good quarterbacks in there we had.

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Speaker 1: You can run down the list of teams that desperately

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Speaker 1: need a quarterback now, whether it's Seattle, Pittsburgh, as Jack mentioned,

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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay, Carolina, New Orleans, and New Orleans. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: you got a handful of teams which teams try to

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Speaker 1: make a trade for a quarterback before free agency to

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Speaker 1: further entice respective free agents to sign with them, because

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Speaker 1: that does have that kind of a rip. Tom Brady

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Speaker 1: did that, Yeah, no question. Tampa Bay got a handful

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Speaker 1: of guys, or maybe less than a handful of guys,

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Speaker 1: but still contributors. Because Tom Brady signed with Tampa Bay,

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Speaker 1: they became really attractive for some guys thinking he's gonna

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Speaker 1: and search. Sure enough he did. I mean they won

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Speaker 1: a world championship. I mean, grown came out of retirements

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Speaker 1: right to play. Um, Antonio Brown, Um, and so Leonard Fournette,

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Speaker 1: all those guys came on board because of Tom Brady.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, there's there's son, But who's who's gonna Who's

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Speaker 1: gonna nobody's gonna move the needle like Tom Brady move

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Speaker 1: the needle less it's or Josh Allen or Herbert or

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Speaker 1: those guys, and they're not going to. But because these

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Speaker 1: teams now, Josh Allen, we've we've heard all the stuff

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Speaker 1: on social media. Guys are wanting to come to Buffalo

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Speaker 1: to play with it. Yeah, you know so, but you

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Speaker 1: have to have an answer at that position if you

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Speaker 1: want to entice any offensive player of any ilk, or

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Speaker 1: especially at a skill position like tight end or wide

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Speaker 1: receiver to come play for you, exactly, just think about

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Speaker 1: this Brownie, say, I'm like Cam Hayward or somebody who's

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Speaker 1: a you know, or Von Miller. Yeah, somebody's gonna command

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Speaker 1: a top dollar and you're gonna bring me in. And

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Speaker 1: you've got Kurt Cousins, or you've got Kent Simms, the

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Speaker 1: kid down or Mills, Davis Mills a quarterback. You got

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Speaker 1: Davis Mills and you got, you got the guy in

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Speaker 1: in New Orleans, Jo Miss Winston or no oh um,

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Speaker 1: the running guy. Yeah, I Taysom Hill. You got Taysom Hill,

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Speaker 1: or you've got Davis Mills. You want me to listen,

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Speaker 1: I'll come down play for you guys, but I am

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Speaker 1: getting top dollar to come down there, and you're gonna

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Speaker 1: over You're not paying the quarterback anything, you're paying me.

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Speaker 1: I'm taking the money if you want me to come

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Speaker 1: down there, are playing Houston or New Orleans and with

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Speaker 1: your you're gonna pay me top dollars. When you saw

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Speaker 1: that here Mario Williams five years nineties or six years

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Speaker 1: ninety six, play for you, But it's gonna cost you.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna cost you, and I get it. People say,

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Speaker 1: well they do that anyway. Nah, Buffalo's got guys signing here,

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Speaker 1: back here, left and right before they get the free agency. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Matt Malana would have made more money. Feliciano, maybe, Darryl Williams,

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Speaker 1: maybe all three of those guys might have made more

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Speaker 1: money jumping out there. Terren Johnson might have made more money. Certainly,

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Speaker 1: Levi Wallace could have done that, and he probably will.

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Speaker 1: He's going to this year I mean, so players do

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Speaker 1: take less money, particularly if they think they got a

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Speaker 1: chance at a ring. We are going to take a

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Speaker 1: break here more of this quarterback discussion, including your tweets

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Speaker 1: on the tweet sheet, so keep them coming either at

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Speaker 1: one Bills Live or give us a call eight O

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Speaker 1: three oh five fifty Will a third quarterback needy team

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Speaker 1: swing a trade for a QB before the free agent

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Speaker 1: market opens next Wednesday? More your tweets next here on

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Speaker 1: one Bills Live presented by Kellid to health It's Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bills Radio. Well, we've seen two quarterback trades in two days.

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Speaker 1: Will there be a third? That is the question we

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Speaker 1: pose to you, not necessarily today, but before the free

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Speaker 1: agent market opens officially on Wednesday at four pm. Will

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Speaker 1: a third QB needy team swing a trade for a

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Speaker 1: veteran quarterback before the market opens? And we go to

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Speaker 1: Chris on the tweet sheet, who says, I voted yes,

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00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: it's gonna happen. I think the next QB trade candidate

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Speaker 1: to drop before free agency is Jimmy Garoppolo. A trade

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00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 1: makes too much sense for both sides, assuming both sides

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Speaker 1: can agree to fair compensation. Side, what was the other

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Speaker 1: side where's he going. Well, he's not saying, but he

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Speaker 1: thinks he's going to be on the roof side. Well,

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Speaker 1: how does it make sense for us? Both sides? And

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Speaker 1: then you know who they're trading with. That's a good point.

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Speaker 1: Why would that make side sense for forty nine ers

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Speaker 1: trading with ghosts or whether it's Saints, whether it's the Panthers,

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Speaker 1: whether it's the Steelers. You can't say it makes whether

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Speaker 1: the fuck it makes sense because they don't have one doc.

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Speaker 1: This is Chris from the tweet sheet. Chris, I love you,

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Speaker 1: but that's a bad tweet. Bro who they're trading with,

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Speaker 1: you can't say it makes sense for both sides. I

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Speaker 1: don't know who the other side is. You don't even

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Speaker 1: know what the terms are. Jay mad on the tweet

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Speaker 1: sheet says, I think the Colts Pittsburgh or Seattle could

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Speaker 1: try and make a trade for Cousins. Now, I think

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00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 1: if you do a trade for Cousins, you're probably on

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Speaker 1: the hook to extend his contract, even if it's just

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Speaker 1: a year to kind of soften the blow. You're inheriting

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Speaker 1: a thirty five million dollars based salary, and I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I gotta check what is Minnesota's cap space because that

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Speaker 1: cap hit is god awful. You have a forty five

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Speaker 1: million dollars dead cap hit for a guy that's not

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Speaker 1: even playing for you. That's hard. I don't know how

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Speaker 1: you do that to get some cap relief somehow, some way, right,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm totally with you. I mean, Minnesota

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Speaker 1: right now, where the hell are they? Oh? Good lord,

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Speaker 1: they're fourteen over. They can't take that kind of a

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Speaker 1: cap hit. Well, I mean they're taking it now anyway,

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Speaker 1: which is why they're fourteen over. But it doesn't improve

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Speaker 1: moving them. So you're fourteen over between a rock hurt cousins,

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Speaker 1: a cap hit, and he's dead cap of forty five million. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's that's what I've been telling you the whole show.

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Speaker 1: I got to I had to see it in front

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Speaker 1: of me. I didn't get it until I looked at it.

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Speaker 1: It's like an anchor. He's like, he gets It's like

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Speaker 1: it's like walking around his base salary is thirty five million,

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Speaker 1: and it's forty five If you it's like trying to

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Speaker 1: run a race with one hundred pound anchor on your knee.

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Speaker 1: The Tom Brady of the Business of Football, Well, his agent.

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Speaker 1: Is he is that guy might be of all guys,

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Speaker 1: that guy might be the first NFL player or second

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Speaker 1: or third maybe. Yeah, I mean Jerry Jerry Richardson did

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Speaker 1: it because he had played in the NFL and then

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Speaker 1: he owned a team that's Carolina Panthers. Let's not forget

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Speaker 1: the guy might be the next guy. Let's not forget

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Speaker 1: Sam Bradford got fifty million guaranteed before he played it

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00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 1: down to football. That was a different was the well,

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Speaker 1: he was the reason the whole structure of the thing

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Speaker 1: changed and why we had contracts. Sam Bradford never played

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Speaker 1: a lick. I mean, he couldn't stay on the fuel

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Speaker 1: at class Joe. That's why, right, Yeah he was. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's a China doll, six foot six China doll. But

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Speaker 1: and he had it with a great arm. Here's the problem.

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Speaker 1: Cousins has played well enough like to keep going. Is

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Speaker 1: he the ultimate three contracts deep? Now? Is he the

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Speaker 1: ultimate quarterback teas in this league? Because he does some

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Speaker 1: things where you go, hey, we can win with that guy.

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Speaker 1: But then you never do I know, you never do.

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Speaker 1: He I gotta look, I'm very curious. Was he the

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Speaker 1: guy that threw the miracle in Minneapolis. Yes see that

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Speaker 1: to Stefan Dix, that right there, that play that won

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00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:18,760
Speaker 1: them a player. It wasn't him, It was case Keenam.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't even It was case Keenight. It never ends.

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Speaker 1: He can't even twenty one and a half percent of

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Speaker 1: their salary cap. Okay, so you're ready, I'm gonna run

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Speaker 1: down his quarterback record. Okay, once he was a full

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Speaker 1: time starter. So he became a full time starter in

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Speaker 1: Washington in twenty fifteen. Okay, here is his quarterback record

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00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 1: year after year twenty fifteen nine and seven, twenty sixteen,

848
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 1: eighty seven and one, twenty seventeen, seven and nine. He

849
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: signs as if free agent with Minnesota was like three years,

850
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 1: ninety seven million dollars, twenty eighteen eight seven and one,

851
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen ten and five, twenty twenty seven and nine,

852
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, eight and eight. You want to know

853
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 1: what his career one loss record is. It's gotta be like,

854
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 1: what fifty and fifty one or something like that. Fifty

855
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 1: nine fifty nine and two he's got two times? Is

856
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: the ultimate quarterback teas and he's gonna sit on his

857
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 1: couch in about three years with about one hundred and

858
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: sixty million in the bank to be the epitome of

859
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 1: average in this league, the epitome he You're gonna look

860
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 1: up average NFL quarterback. His picture is gonna be there

861
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 1: fifty nine, fifty nine and two, and teams right now

862
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 1: are standing in line to get that guy. I don't know,

863
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 1: I don't know, and listen, he's not And here's the

864
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 1: thing too, he's not going anywhere. He is set well,

865
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 1: I mean, he's he turns thirty four this season, and

866
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 1: what do you what do you do? Like you you

867
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 1: don't have an answer behind him on your depth chart.

868
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 1: You're not drafting anybody that's better. And then what are you?

869
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:27,800
Speaker 1: Are you going to pay more money and free agency

870
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 1: when you're already over the cap. You know you want

871
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 1: to extend him a year and do another year of

872
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: this for this or here's the thing, forget the Kirk

873
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 1: Cousins talked. He's not going anywhere. I don't see how

874
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:47,359
Speaker 1: he can. There's absolutely no it's Garoppolo who's probably gonna move. Yeah,

875
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 1: and then you know, Mitchell True Bisky, Mitchie Biscuit's giant money.

876
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 1: How much money we'll we'll talk about that when we

877
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 1: come back, and when we return, we're gonna get into

878
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 1: this conversation a little bit more or with our guest

879
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: today as it's SI dot COM's Connor Or, who's going

880
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: to discuss discuss the quarterback market with us and where

881
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:13,439
Speaker 1: it might be going going forward when the free agent

882
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 1: market opens. We'll talk about that next with Connor Or.

883
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 1: Here on one Bill's Live forres anybody colloid to health,

884
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio at a Steve Tasker who has

885
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 1: put all over her fields. Kind of unique. He was

886
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 1: kind of a dual role player for you, state Steve

887
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 1: a blimp. We're not even in the stratosphere of normalcy here,

888
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 1: all right, here we are our number two on a Thursday,

889
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, and please to be

890
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 1: joined now by SI dot COM's Connor Or, who is

891
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 1: all over the free agent market. He and his colleague

892
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 1: Gary Gramling just put together a list of two hundred

893
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 1: and twenty one. My eyes might be falling out of

894
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 1: my head by the time I get to one hundred,

895
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:21,280
Speaker 1: so I understand why they teamed up to do this. Connor,

896
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 1: how are you doing man? Thanks for giving us some

897
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 1: time today. Yeah, thanks for having me. I appreciate it.

898
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 1: So I have to start here because I think a

899
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 1: lot of people in Buffalo are expecting Mitchell Trubisky to

900
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: make a good bit of coin in a very, very

901
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 1: quarterback needy market that figures to be opening up on

902
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 1: Wednesday officially. But I would not be shocked in the

903
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 1: least connor if Mitchell Trubisky has a contract agreement by

904
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 1: Monday night, knowing the negotiating window opens at noon on Monday.

905
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on that? Absolutely? I mean anything

906
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 1: with upside here, um, given the market, given what's coming

907
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: in the draft, I think anyone that we don't already know,

908
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 1: open and shut. This is the book on this guy.

909
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 1: I think is going to get a crack at it,

910
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 1: and it's probably gonna make a decent amount of money.

911
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 1: I think there's just been these always kind of been

912
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 1: these weird market niches every time, every time a free

913
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,439
Speaker 1: agency opens, and this happens to be kind of a

914
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 1: buyer's market with quarterbacks and just not a ton of

915
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 1: available property, a lot like buying a house right now?

916
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly what? Or a gallon of gas here? Right?

917
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:36,720
Speaker 1: Do the do the movement of these quarterbacks Russ Wilson,

918
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz and then our Aaron Rodgers staying put in

919
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 1: Green Bay Um and you know Mitch Trubisky out there.

920
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 1: Do these quarterbacks how much do they their landing spots

921
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,760
Speaker 1: change the outlook for those teams in the free agent market?

922
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 1: Like does all of a sudden, does Denver like say,

923
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 1: you know what, we're gonna do something at wide receiver

924
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 1: now we're gonna do something an offensive line other than

925
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 1: or do the Seahawks like we can't do anything? What

926
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 1: you know? Do these quarterbacks and these moves change the

927
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 1: landscape for those clubs? I think certainly you've already started

928
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 1: to see that in Seattle. I mean with them letting

929
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner go, and I think that they're kind of

930
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 1: starting to they're kind of starting to transition into a

931
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 1: little bit of a rebuild. I don't think it'll take

932
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 1: John Schneider that long. I mean, I think he's a

933
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 1: skilled drafter and a good personnel guy there. The main

934
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 1: question there, I think is how that move ends up

935
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 1: affecting Pete Carroll and how long someone like that might

936
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 1: want to hang around in Seattle. But some of these

937
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 1: moves I think were Domino effects, and some of them weren't.

938
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 1: You know, for example, Russell Wilson might have been Denver's

939
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 1: Plan B, but you know Aaron Rodgers was their Plan A.

940
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:40,879
Speaker 1: But they only they understood that there was only maybe

941
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 1: a two or three percent chance of that happening. And

942
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 1: you know, I don't think that Carson Wentz was necessarily

943
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 1: a corresponding move for Washington because I don't think Russell

944
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 1: Wilson was ever going there. I don't think any of

945
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 1: the top quarterbacks were ever really considering the Commanders as

946
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 1: a destination. So I think it's been interesting. I think

947
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 1: the Wentz trade was eye opening and just it showed

948
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,839
Speaker 1: you how desperate some of these teams are. I don't

949
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 1: know if you're going to get any better out of

950
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 1: Carson Instant Frank right now, but some of these teams,

951
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 1: like we said with mister Biski, if there's any glimmer

952
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:13,839
Speaker 1: of upside, you're going to give it a crack at

953
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 1: this point. And what do you make of the rumblings

954
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: concerning interest in Deshaun Watson. We know why there's interest

955
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 1: based on his playing skills, but you know we're seeing

956
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 1: reports now that, wow, if he doesn't get indicted by

957
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 1: a grand jury on Friday, teams might be all in,

958
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, well, that's far from the end of

959
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 1: his legal troubles, and yet teams are that desperate that

960
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,479
Speaker 1: they're going to jump all over the opportunity to swing

961
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 1: a trade for him, when to me, his ability and

962
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 1: availability to his availability to play is still I don't know,

963
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: it seems very murky to me. Yeah, I mean, I

964
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 1: don't think that you know, I don't know if jail

965
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 1: time is out of the question at this point. I mean,

966
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 1: you don't know. And I think that's what that's what's

967
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 1: bothered me kind of about this higher processes. I think

968
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 1: there's been some in the media landscape that have just

969
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 1: continued to use Deshaun Watson as someone to discuss in

970
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 1: terms of potential trades and trade interest. But you know,

971
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,319
Speaker 1: a grand jury's convening on Friday, and I think that,

972
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 1: you know, these accusers deserve their chance to you know,

973
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: have their time in court here and have this thing

974
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 1: settled and to have the legal process resolved before we

975
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 1: just make that sort of a speed bump in our

976
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 1: eagerness to talk about him playing football somewhere. And so

977
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 1: I don't know, the answer to that, I mean, you know,

978
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 1: I'm sure that there are teams doing their due diligence.

979
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 1: I think, you know, we heard it as far back

980
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 1: as the trade deadline, Stephen Ross trying to encourage settlements

981
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 1: so that he could get him on the Dolphins. But

982
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 1: I think that kind of desperation is you know, it

983
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 1: could come back to bite you as an owner, an

984
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 1: aggressive owner, or a general manager. I think there's probably

985
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 1: better ways to go about this. As we see this

986
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: stuff settle in and we git closer and closer to

987
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,360
Speaker 1: where teams are going to start signing guys, what teams

988
00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 1: do you think can transform themselves or maybe turn it

989
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 1: around quicker because of their cap space. Certainly the Colts

990
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:06,399
Speaker 1: now having traded wins, even though they take a little

991
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 1: bit of a cap hit, they've still got seventy million

992
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 1: dollars in cap space. And there are other teams out

993
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:13,360
Speaker 1: there now and the New Orleans Saints, so you know,

994
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:15,280
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, we're just on the opposite

995
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 1: end of that with about seventy seventy million dollars over

996
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 1: So which teams do you look at that are set

997
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 1: up to have a little bit of something in the cupboard,

998
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 1: but could really turn it around quick with their coaching staff,

999
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 1: their front office, and the money they have to spend.

1000
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 1: A couple of teams, I would probably keep an eye

1001
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 1: on here. I mean, if I'm another executive, I know

1002
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,320
Speaker 1: this sounds silly, but to have Chris Ballard was seventy

1003
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 1: million dollars probably scares me a little bit. He's a

1004
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,360
Speaker 1: great general manager. I think that they've always been a

1005
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 1: quarterback away from Super Bowl contention. If they somehow can

1006
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 1: get Jimmy Garoppolo in there, or maybe Priy kirk Cousins

1007
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 1: out of Minnesota and then spend some of that money

1008
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 1: to upgrade at their receiving core and maybe help them

1009
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 1: out themselves out on the back end of the defense there,

1010
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:00,040
Speaker 1: I think that's going to be a dangerous team, a

1011
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 1: team that could arguably win that division. I think the

1012
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:04,840
Speaker 1: Titans kind of might be trending in the opposite direction,

1013
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 1: and I would watch some of the outside zone guys.

1014
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 1: Right Nathaniel Hackett gets Russell Wilson, I think you're going

1015
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 1: to need to get some Ansllery pieces in there to

1016
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 1: run that. Hackett Wilson combined offensive scheme and Mike McDaniel

1017
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 1: in Miami if he watched what Kyle Shanahan did in

1018
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 1: San Francisco, there was a big initial free agency splurge

1019
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 1: there because he needed scheme specific guys. That scheme takes

1020
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 1: a lot of specific talent. You need good fullbacks, you

1021
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:31,479
Speaker 1: need good blocking tight ends. I think we could see

1022
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 1: Miami spending a little bit of a premium on players

1023
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 1: like that as well. And then with respect to the

1024
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz move going to Washington, he's now back in

1025
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 1: the NFC East. What do you think was the biggest

1026
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 1: appeal for Washington? Is it his ability to throw down field?

1027
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 1: Because you know, you got Turner as the OC. I

1028
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 1: don't know how much of how much of the scheme

1029
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 1: he borrows from his dad, Norv Turner, but you know

1030
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 1: Norv Turner's offense with no one as you know, throwing

1031
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 1: the ball down the field, and we know Carson Wentz

1032
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 1: can certainly do that. I just if I've got a

1033
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 1: head coach who was the biggest proponent of Carson Wentz

1034
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 1: in Frank Reich, willing to throw him overboard in just

1035
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 1: a year after you know, statistically putting a pretty good

1036
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 1: season together, you know, twenty seven touchdown, seven picks, were

1037
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 1: three of those picks coming in his last game of

1038
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 1: the regular season, Aren't I scratching my head just a

1039
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 1: little bit there? Yes? And I think the appeal for

1040
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 1: Washington to answer your question was that he didn't have

1041
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 1: a no trade clause and didn't really have a choice.

1042
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 1: I think that a lot of these quarterbacks, honestly. I mean,

1043
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 1: you know, if Jimmy Garoppolo has a full no trade

1044
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 1: and I don't think he would have ever agreed to

1045
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 1: go to Washington. You know. I think Martin Mayhew said

1046
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 1: at the combine that he called all thirty two teams

1047
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 1: and to inquire about their quarterback situation, and this was

1048
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 1: kind of the one that they could pry loose. And

1049
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 1: so that's just the reality of life with the Commanders

1050
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 1: right now. I don't know if that's a place that

1051
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 1: a ton of people want to go and play football.

1052
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 1: It's not an organization that everyone's kind of leap frogging

1053
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 1: over the fence to try to get to. And so

1054
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 1: I think if you're Washington, you're hoping that the player translates, certainly,

1055
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 1: but all the other stuff. You know, if you're Ron Rivera,

1056
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 1: maybe you believe that the missing ingredient has been some

1057
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Speaker 1: sort of an emotional component, like can you get this

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00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 1: guy to be the leader that he doesn't seem to

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00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 1: have been at either of his two stops. There's been

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00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 1: that complaint that's followed Carson Wentz wherever he's gone, and

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00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 1: so I think that's an interesting component to this as well.

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00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 1: And we've been talking a lot with as free agency

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00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 1: approaches that there are certain positions on both sides of

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00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 1: the ball that really are you know, there are money

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00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 1: we call money positions. A left tackle, the U a quarterback,

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Speaker 1: of course, which we've been talking about for you know,

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Speaker 1: fifteen minutes. But the left tackle is a big one,

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00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 1: and of course wide receiver tight ends great if you

1069
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 1: can get him, but even the franchise number on a

1070
00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 1: tight ends only ten point eight. You go on the

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00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 1: other side of the ball, it's edge rusher and corner.

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Speaker 1: So in this free agent market, how do you think

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Speaker 1: those money positions are gonna fall? And is there anybody

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01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 1: out there or any way that maybe teams can do

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Speaker 1: one splash big and get a guy or get a

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01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:16,439
Speaker 1: couple of guys that are difference makers, or are there

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01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 1: guys in that middle marketer below that are that could

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Speaker 1: get undersold and come out and have big years for

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Speaker 1: their teams. Who signed was free agents. Well, I think

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Speaker 1: already when my eyes kind of jumped out of my

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01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 1: head when I saw the numbers on Harold Landry out

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Speaker 1: of Tennessee, and I think that's a sign that the

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01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 1: edge market is back. I think a lot of these teams,

1084
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 1: thanks really to Sean McDermott, I think a lot of

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01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 1: these teams are gonna rush for and they're gonna drop seven.

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01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 1: And you know that means you need premium edge rushing talent.

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Speaker 1: And while this is a fantastic draft to be able

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01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 1: to accomplish that, some teams might prefer a sure thing

1089
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 1: like Chandler Jones, And so I'm interested to see what

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01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 1: guys like him. His market looks like. That could be

1091
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 1: a really potential bustling market there. And I know a

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Speaker 1: lot of gms that I talked to at the combine

1093
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 1: are really kind of deciding between do I jump in

1094
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 1: her feet first or do I trust my own evaluatory

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01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 1: skills and do I grab one guy coming out of

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01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 1: the draft or two or three? I mean, and again,

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01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 1: something that Buffalo has done really well over the last

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Speaker 1: few years and in the backside of that to his corner,

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01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 1: I mean, this is going to be a coverage coverage,

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01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 1: coverage league next year. Everybody's trying to shut down Patrick

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01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 1: Mahomes and Justin Herbert and so you're going to need

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Speaker 1: deeper defensive backfields than you've ever needed before. And so

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Speaker 1: I think that's going to be where you're going to

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Speaker 1: try to make your money. And you know, the interesting

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Speaker 1: point there is you want to follow a blueprint like

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati where they weren't necessarily knocking at the door the

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Speaker 1: top guys in any of these markets, but they were

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Speaker 1: getting the guys that their coaches asked them to get,

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01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 1: which I think is almost a bigger deal than getting

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Speaker 1: the best all around player. And we saw how that

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01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 1: kind of lifted Cincinnati to a super Bowl. So Jimmy

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01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 1: Garoppolo would be the most logical candidate if there was

1113
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 1: another quarter back trade. But what what is your assessment

1114
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 1: of the likelihood of Jordan Love being moved? That's part

1115
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 1: one of the question, Jordan loves tradeability, And then part

1116
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 1: two of that question is, if you're Jordan Love, aren't

1117
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 1: you asking for a trade at this point? Because you're

1118
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 1: probably not going to play under your rookie contract, right,

1119
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's you know, the Packers solved one

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Speaker 1: quarterback issue, arguably the one that you know they care

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Speaker 1: about the most. But I think that there's a human

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Speaker 1: element to this, and if you're Jordan Love, you want

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01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:34,440
Speaker 1: to crack at full time s starter snaps before you're

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Speaker 1: the end of your rookie deal, Otherwise you're cast off

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Speaker 1: into a market almost kind of like you know. I mean,

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01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor is a fifth round pick, but a relative

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01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 1: unknown commodity before he went to Buffalo, and I think

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Speaker 1: that that ended up hurting him in the long term

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Speaker 1: because I think he could have gotten some bigger deals

1130
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Speaker 1: over the life of his career. And so if you're

1131
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 1: Jordan Love, you're saying, hey, I was the good soldier.

1132
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 1: I was your guy's leverage play for a long time.

1133
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 1: It's time to let me go. It's time to put

1134
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Speaker 1: me out of here. And I think if Bay, I

1135
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 1: think if Green Bay had a heart, that they would

1136
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 1: do it. But I think financially it just makes way

1137
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 1: too much sense to keep him. This is a guy

1138
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 1: that knows the scheme. He's cheaper than almost any backup

1139
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 1: quarterback that you could get on the market, and his

1140
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 1: upside is way higher. And so it's one of those

1141
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 1: things where you know, if your love, you're kind of

1142
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 1: stuck between a rock and a hard place, and you

1143
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 1: hope that Green Bay will do the right thing here

1144
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:23,480
Speaker 1: and let you go. Because I do think he's very tradeable,

1145
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 1: and I would imagine most teams would have him as

1146
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:28,600
Speaker 1: QB one if he was out in this year's draft.

1147
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 1: What would you think about Since everybody's talking about Jimmy

1148
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 1: G getting traded, how does that affect Trade Lance? And

1149
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:37,600
Speaker 1: is one reason Jimmy G not being traded is because

1150
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 1: they don't trust Trade Lance? Or is it they're ready

1151
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:42,840
Speaker 1: to trade Jimmy G because they do trust Trey Lance.

1152
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:45,880
Speaker 1: What's your take on Lance's ability to take over for

1153
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 1: Jimmy G if indeed the trade comes well. When he

1154
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:50,920
Speaker 1: had to take some starter snaps at the end of

1155
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:53,920
Speaker 1: last year, I remember kind of poking around and because

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01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 1: I had kind of thought, to be honest, that Trey

1157
01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 1: would have assumed the starter's roll by that point in

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01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 1: the season, but they kept Jimmy Garoppolo and then they

1159
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 1: got hot and then there was no reason to throw

1160
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 1: a rookie in. But the sense that I got from

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Speaker 1: the people in San Francisco was that he was ready,

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01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:09,040
Speaker 1: that I think that he could do it, and I

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01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 1: think with another offseason, we're going to find out exactly

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01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 1: what that looks like. But if you're Shanahan, you have

1165
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:18,760
Speaker 1: to at some point put him on the field for

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01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 1: a long period of time. And you you traded a

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Speaker 1: ton of draft capital, a ton of assets, and you

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01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 1: can't use Jimmy Garoppolo as your safety blanket forever, especially

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Speaker 1: when I think this year you could recoup your draft

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01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 1: equity investment in him entirely. I mean, I think a

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Speaker 1: second round pick for Jimmy Garoppolo at this point is

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Speaker 1: not outside the question at all. And then you know,

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01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 1: in terms of the combine, I know the draft is

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01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 1: still the way he's off. When we got free agency

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01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:46,080
Speaker 1: front and center, I know you were there. We were there.

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01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 1: Last week. The University of Georgia kids kind of stole

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Speaker 1: the show. I heard Daniel Jeremiah's University of Georgia not

1178
01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:58,800
Speaker 1: only won the national championship, they won the combine Championship two.

1179
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:04,200
Speaker 1: But I'm less on the players, more on the front

1180
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:08,920
Speaker 1: office people. What was your feedback that you might have

1181
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:13,120
Speaker 1: been getting on the quarterbacks in this draft class, and

1182
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 1: if anybody improved their stock to the point where, you know,

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01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 1: maybe we do see one go in the top ten.

1184
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 1: Where I think going into the combine, people were wondering, Man,

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01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 1: are we gonna have a top ten pick a quarterback? Yeah.

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01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 1: I think it's funny, you know. I think the combine

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01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 1: is sort of the midway point of the cycle where,

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01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:35,720
Speaker 1: you know, probably the beginning portion of this season, in

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Speaker 1: the early fall, we had heard Malik Willis was one

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Speaker 1: of those guys that could potentially go number one overall, right,

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01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, the quarterback class started

1192
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 1: getting kind of rained on by a lot of scouts,

1193
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 1: and then you know, now it's coming back up, you

1194
01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:55,120
Speaker 1: know where I think that I think some reasonable people

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Speaker 1: here are seeing Malik Willis as a potential top ten pick,

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01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:00,880
Speaker 1: and I don't know about improving his stock, but maybe

1197
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 1: recovering the initial stock. I guess you could say from

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Speaker 1: the beginning of the season where I think he's just

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Speaker 1: a phenomenal athlete. I think he's a powerful thrower, and

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Speaker 1: that's a guy that can be a difference maker if

1201
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 1: he lands in the right place. What's the difference between

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Speaker 1: Malik Willis and say Picket. I mean, does Willis have

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01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:20,120
Speaker 1: the you know, the pro arm, the pro body, the

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01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:24,560
Speaker 1: pro that, and how far is the drop off? I think,

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01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 1: you know, if I were a team, you know, if

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01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:30,080
Speaker 1: I'm Pittsburgh for example, right, you know, I'm probably going

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01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 1: in my mind, I'm going Willis or nobody in the

1208
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 1: first round, right, and then if I get somebody, if

1209
01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 1: I can get somebody later on in the draft, and

1210
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:41,880
Speaker 1: that's great, you know if somebody falls to me. But

1211
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 1: to me, Willis is that premium combination of size and

1212
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 1: strength and speed, whereas everybody else's is a little too

1213
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 1: flawed for me to be able to go forward immediately.

1214
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 1: I think that Pittsburgh, especially with Matt Canada, you could

1215
01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 1: put an offense together and get that guy on the

1216
01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:59,280
Speaker 1: field pretty close to immediately. You'd roll with the punches

1217
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 1: a little bit. Carolinas same. I mean, you know that's

1218
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:03,440
Speaker 1: a guy that I would look at for them. That

1219
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:06,040
Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense. Connor, thanks for the time.

1220
01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:08,160
Speaker 1: We appreciate. We'll catch up with you down the line. Thanks.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, guys. All right, that's SI dot Com NFL

1222
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:15,040
Speaker 1: writer Connor Or and he's got he just put this

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Speaker 1: out yesterday with his colleague Gary Grammling. He's got the

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Speaker 1: top two hundred and twenty one free agents as he

1225
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Speaker 1: ranks them top to bottom. Good lord, that's a tedious process.

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Speaker 1: But he and his colleague Gary Grammling, who we've also

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01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 1: had on the show, put that together, so be sure

1228
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Speaker 1: to check that out at SI dot com. They he

1229
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:40,880
Speaker 1: also characterized the Carson Wentz trade as a desperate move

1230
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 1: for Washington, and I think you'd be hard pressed to

1231
01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:49,560
Speaker 1: argue that it was a desperation move. They tried everything

1232
01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 1: they could to try to work to straight a trade

1233
01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 1: for Russell Wilson. It didn't work, and so their fallback

1234
01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 1: option was Wentz because they saw Wentz as a better

1235
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 1: option than no option at all. And when you're a beggar,

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01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:04,160
Speaker 1: you can't be a chooser, Not that you know. I

1237
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 1: don't think Carson Wentz can have some success in this league.

1238
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:09,000
Speaker 1: His numbers last year, as we have said, we're pretty good.

1239
01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 1: But the market is thin, the choices are limited. What

1240
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:21,720
Speaker 1: do you want? Yeah, it's amazing to me what it

1241
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:25,040
Speaker 1: said about the Colts when they made the deal for Carson. Now,

1242
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 1: certainly they got a haul back for him, They got

1243
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:29,920
Speaker 1: some guys back for him. The same thing with Denver.

1244
01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:32,760
Speaker 1: Denver's been in the market for what ten years now

1245
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 1: since Peyton Peyton Yeah so yeah, so six or seven

1246
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:43,280
Speaker 1: years and before that they were there too. Um yeah

1247
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:46,880
Speaker 1: with TBO and the Broncos did that same thing. They

1248
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:48,519
Speaker 1: went out and got a guy finally, and they got

1249
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:50,599
Speaker 1: them to should have been three super Bowls. They got

1250
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:58,400
Speaker 1: to two and one one. The Colts have there's nobody

1251
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:00,840
Speaker 1: to line up right now. They got a rookie and

1252
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:03,040
Speaker 1: a fifth and he's a sixth round draft, fifth round

1253
01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:05,280
Speaker 1: draft pick that Sam Ellinger. Yeah, they got. They got

1254
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:08,800
Speaker 1: nobody that has taken a snap. So they went from

1255
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:14,880
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz who played was twenty six and four twenty

1256
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:18,000
Speaker 1: six and three touchdowns interceptions last year before and going

1257
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 1: into Week eighteen and they're gone, They're done. They cut him,

1258
01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 1: got kicked him too. The Curb traded and they got

1259
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:28,360
Speaker 1: nobody to line that. That's the crazy part about it.

1260
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:31,840
Speaker 1: They said with nothing, we said, we can't go where

1261
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:34,799
Speaker 1: we want to go with Carson Wentz. They say, Okay,

1262
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:37,639
Speaker 1: we've made that decision. What do we do with quarterback? Well,

1263
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:40,200
Speaker 1: we'll figure that out, but we gotta get rid of him.

1264
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:45,960
Speaker 1: That's crazy, Like me, I think three years ago, that's

1265
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:49,000
Speaker 1: not even a thought process that any GM in this

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01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:54,080
Speaker 1: league would entertain outside of the guy being like completely

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Speaker 1: insubordinate off the field, right right, They'd never do it.

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01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:05,120
Speaker 1: They wouldn't like, they wouldn't even entertain the thought if

1269
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:08,799
Speaker 1: they didn't have And they're not saying he's a bad person.

1270
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 1: I know, and I know Frank Reich. He likes the kid,

1271
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:14,559
Speaker 1: thinks he can play, and he told us that off

1272
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 1: the air. He feels that he's listening and he did.

1273
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:18,439
Speaker 1: He stuck his neck out for the kid because he

1274
01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 1: had that year with him in Filling where they won

1275
01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:22,880
Speaker 1: this World championship and he got hurt late with an

1276
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:25,240
Speaker 1: acl Okay, I get it. But he loved the kid,

1277
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:27,679
Speaker 1: thinks the kid's great. So it's not that the guy

1278
01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:31,920
Speaker 1: is a is a donkey, right, I mean, he's not

1279
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:35,639
Speaker 1: a jackass. Yeah, he's a good kid. Maybe he doesn't

1280
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:38,840
Speaker 1: take coaching harden like, but you're because of that, you're

1281
01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 1: gonna put your franchise in this position with no answers.

1282
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:49,040
Speaker 1: They as the most important position. I suspect they got

1283
01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 1: a plan that's gonna give him somebody with half with

1284
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:56,320
Speaker 1: name recognition. They're gonna get a guy. Who it's gonna be.

1285
01:10:56,360 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 1: I don't know whether it's gonna be Maybe they got

1286
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:01,680
Speaker 1: an inside track with Mitch Trip. It's gonna be like that, though,

1287
01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:06,599
Speaker 1: it's gonna be Trebisky or somebody of that ilk maybe

1288
01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:10,120
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston, anybody. The list is short though, Steve, whoever

1289
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:12,280
Speaker 1: it is, it's a shortlist. It is you're gonna have.

1290
01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:14,639
Speaker 1: But that's over pay. But here's the thing, here's my call.

1291
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:16,840
Speaker 1: I think Indianapolis is gonna have one of the guys

1292
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:18,920
Speaker 1: on that shortlist. They gotta get one of those guys

1293
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:22,880
Speaker 1: on that shortlist. Maybe it's Garoppolo, or maybe they're making

1294
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:25,679
Speaker 1: a play for Jordan Love. Whoever, they're gonna get a guy.

1295
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:29,840
Speaker 1: They're not gonna go in with Ellinger as their quartermall.

1296
01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:33,960
Speaker 1: But is Garoppolo more talented than Wance, No, he's not.

1297
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:39,559
Speaker 1: That's the whole. It's amazing. The void that leaves for

1298
01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 1: the Colts at the top of their roster, at the

1299
01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:45,120
Speaker 1: quarterback is unbelievable to me that they don't have like

1300
01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:50,479
Speaker 1: a switch out. So I think they do. You can't

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01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:52,559
Speaker 1: tell me there's a guarantee you're gonna get that guy. No,

1302
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:56,840
Speaker 1: I don't think you can think about that. I think

1303
01:11:56,840 --> 01:12:02,439
Speaker 1: their pants are unzipped a little bit. I think their

1304
01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:04,720
Speaker 1: pants are a little bit. I think they're getting caught.

1305
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:07,040
Speaker 1: I think they're laying out there like they To me,

1306
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:10,360
Speaker 1: they look vulnerable right now because they got nobody. They

1307
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:14,519
Speaker 1: have a roster that was a hair's breath away from

1308
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:16,720
Speaker 1: the playoffs last year, and you got the like the

1309
01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:19,280
Speaker 1: four seed which is the Bills, or the three seed,

1310
01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:21,799
Speaker 1: which is Buffalo. Who wanted no part of that roster.

1311
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 1: That's how good they were last year. We saw it, yea,

1312
01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:32,080
Speaker 1: and they right now they got NAA. I just why

1313
01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:35,519
Speaker 1: do they do? Look? No, Look, I know. I mean

1314
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:37,280
Speaker 1: the more I talk about it, the more I can't believe.

1315
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:39,479
Speaker 1: That's the thing. Like I came on the show today

1316
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:41,120
Speaker 1: and I was like, Yeah, that Carson Wentz thing was

1317
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:43,120
Speaker 1: a little peculiar for me for the cold. The more

1318
01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:45,080
Speaker 1: you think about it, and then as we're going through

1319
01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:47,240
Speaker 1: the show here, I'm thinking to myself, I'm trying to

1320
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:49,720
Speaker 1: put myself in Chris Ballard choice. And look, he's a

1321
01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:52,200
Speaker 1: good GM. He is a great GM, really good. If

1322
01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:55,080
Speaker 1: he's mining for talent in the draft, He's really built

1323
01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:57,559
Speaker 1: that roster into one of the more complete ones in

1324
01:12:57,600 --> 01:13:01,240
Speaker 1: the entire league. If I got all the respect in

1325
01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:04,440
Speaker 1: the world, if you have a good deal of self confidence,

1326
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:07,800
Speaker 1: but right now does that guy knows what he's doing.

1327
01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:11,439
Speaker 1: But right now you're walking the tight rope and there's

1328
01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 1: no Netwatly, there is no net down there. You are

1329
01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:18,160
Speaker 1: in the middle of a ripple somersault from one and

1330
01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:20,040
Speaker 1: you hope the guys there to catch you. You're on

1331
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:22,280
Speaker 1: the tight rope right now with no net down below.

1332
01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 1: And if there's a stiff breeze, you're in trouble. Stiff breeze,

1333
01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:29,760
Speaker 1: you're going down there, are Steve. There are no guarantees

1334
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:32,840
Speaker 1: anybody signing anything with you exactly. Now you have a

1335
01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:35,840
Speaker 1: great roster, You've got an all world running back, and

1336
01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:38,800
Speaker 1: you've got a really good defense. So you so you

1337
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:42,840
Speaker 1: are an attractive destination. But I still think you're gonna

1338
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 1: have to overpay because there are so here's look, because

1339
01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:49,080
Speaker 1: look as good as as good as as good as

1340
01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:51,880
Speaker 1: Indianapolis as roster might be, and as attractive as it

1341
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:55,720
Speaker 1: might be, Tampa Bay's got some talent that they can

1342
01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:59,679
Speaker 1: offer a quarterback too. You know, hey, we got Mike Evans.

1343
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:03,799
Speaker 1: We just franchise Chris Godwin. You know, we've got uh

1344
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:07,439
Speaker 1: Cameron Brake. You know they have they have weapons that

1345
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:10,600
Speaker 1: they can offer to a quarterback. Like. It's not like

1346
01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:13,160
Speaker 1: India is the only game in town here. So for me,

1347
01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:17,720
Speaker 1: if I'm Chris Ballard as great a GM as I

1348
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:20,439
Speaker 1: might be, as great as salesman as I might be

1349
01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:23,040
Speaker 1: for the Colts, I'm not sleeping too well between now

1350
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:30,160
Speaker 1: and Monday. Unless unless they know something, they got something. Well,

1351
01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:31,720
Speaker 1: what do they know, though, I don't know what the

1352
01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:33,960
Speaker 1: what is it? Unless they know unless they know the

1353
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:36,080
Speaker 1: agent and the agent saying hey, here's what I'm thinking

1354
01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:40,080
Speaker 1: of and here's what we're doing that. Here's the thing too.

1355
01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:41,920
Speaker 1: Ballard's got more money in anybody in the case that's

1356
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:45,400
Speaker 1: a verbal promise. How well do those work? Well, he's

1357
01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:48,400
Speaker 1: got more money to spend than anybody else. He does.

1358
01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:51,320
Speaker 1: And the Colts, more than as much as anybody else,

1359
01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:54,720
Speaker 1: know the value of that spot, so they're gonna be

1360
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:58,640
Speaker 1: willing to pay it. They gotta have somebody on a

1361
01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:02,000
Speaker 1: short list or no, no, no no, that's not even right, Brownie.

1362
01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:05,240
Speaker 1: It's not even one guy. It's got to be two

1363
01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:08,120
Speaker 1: options or three options for them to make the move

1364
01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:11,640
Speaker 1: with Carson Wentz. They gotta have like a plan a

1365
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:16,400
Speaker 1: Plan B, and a Plan C going forward. They got

1366
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:19,880
Speaker 1: to I'm just gonna tell you right now, if the

1367
01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:25,280
Speaker 1: music stops there, If the music stops and they don't

1368
01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:32,960
Speaker 1: have Jimmy Garoppolo, Mitchell's Rubisky, Jamis Winston or Jamis Winston,

1369
01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:34,600
Speaker 1: if they don't have one of those three guys, they

1370
01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:37,160
Speaker 1: should not have made the trade. Yeah, and I Jameis

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01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:39,080
Speaker 1: Winston because he had he had a nice year going

1372
01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:41,240
Speaker 1: last year for when he finally you know, started getting

1373
01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:44,880
Speaker 1: you know, he had a good offense, good weapons and stuff.

1374
01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:48,640
Speaker 1: He was a guy. So yeah, Jameis Winston. If they

1375
01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:51,519
Speaker 1: don't have one of those three guys locked up and

1376
01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:56,120
Speaker 1: negotiated by Monday night, Teddy Bridgema, No, No, he's not

1377
01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:58,559
Speaker 1: good en, No, he's not as good as Carson Wentz

1378
01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:00,640
Speaker 1: unless they get him for a song and then they

1379
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:02,840
Speaker 1: can spend money elsewhere. Right, I mean I get that,

1380
01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:05,880
Speaker 1: if that's that may be they're playing c Right, get

1381
01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:08,559
Speaker 1: a guy who's got some experience, like a Fitzpatrick. You're

1382
01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 1: not better than I'm like fits because here's what makes

1383
01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:18,280
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton. Come on, but Steve, here's what makes their

1384
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:22,040
Speaker 1: their choice even more precarious. Are you ready? Go ahead?

1385
01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:27,000
Speaker 1: They don't have a first round pain, they can't trade

1386
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:29,360
Speaker 1: and why don't they have a first round pick traded

1387
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:33,559
Speaker 1: it for? Because they gave it to Philadelphia for Carson Wentz.

1388
01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:38,439
Speaker 1: I just threw up in my mouth a little bit bad.

1389
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:39,920
Speaker 1: What it's like to be a Colts fan right now?

1390
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:44,760
Speaker 1: Choke that pill down. And right now they're standing there

1391
01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:47,720
Speaker 1: like looking for a towel to wrap around themselves. They're

1392
01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:51,559
Speaker 1: they're like, what we're not on zoom Aaron eighth grade

1393
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:53,559
Speaker 1: boy at the middle school dance hoping they can find

1394
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:56,559
Speaker 1: somebody to dance with them. That's right, they are hoping.

1395
01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:58,960
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, they've got to have it sent right

1396
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:00,880
Speaker 1: through there. Got to have it at least Plan A,

1397
01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:04,639
Speaker 1: Plan B, plans. Three guys on the road, right, they

1398
01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:09,120
Speaker 1: cannot get left just standing there because they would they

1399
01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:11,519
Speaker 1: were too close to being really really good to say,

1400
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:13,759
Speaker 1: or you know what, we'll go without a quarterback, we'll tank.

1401
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:16,120
Speaker 1: We'll get a guy next year. They're gonna blow a year.

1402
01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:18,960
Speaker 1: They got they got a roster that can go. I'm

1403
01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:24,680
Speaker 1: not I'm not within five hundred miles Indianapolis, and I

1404
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:29,760
Speaker 1: am nervous for them. Like I'm nervous for them. I

1405
01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:32,439
Speaker 1: am nervous. All right, we gotta take a break here.

1406
01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:34,720
Speaker 1: We'll take your phone calls though. When we come back

1407
01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:36,920
Speaker 1: at a couple of people holding Chris and Rochester, Scott

1408
01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:38,920
Speaker 1: in cheek Owaga, and others at eight O three oh

1409
01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:40,680
Speaker 1: five fifty. Hang tight, we'll get to you next year.

1410
01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:42,519
Speaker 1: On One Bill's Live, presented by Kelli to Health, It's

1411
01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:58,000
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right, time to get to the phones.

1412
01:17:58,120 --> 01:18:01,160
Speaker 1: Here at eight three h five fifty. Open line for

1413
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:04,160
Speaker 1: you there is We're talking about quarterback needy teams and

1414
01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:07,240
Speaker 1: whether another trade might happen before the free agent market opens.

1415
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:10,080
Speaker 1: Let's go to Chris in Rochester next. What do you

1416
01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:14,280
Speaker 1: have for us? Chris, you're on One Bill's Live. Hey, guys,

1417
01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:19,479
Speaker 1: thanks for taking my call. I'm calling because I wanted

1418
01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:23,200
Speaker 1: to talk about the question that you posed. I actually

1419
01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:25,400
Speaker 1: sent a tweet into the show, and you guys read

1420
01:18:25,439 --> 01:18:28,040
Speaker 1: it on the air and Steve kind of called me out. YEA,

1421
01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:33,559
Speaker 1: who's the other side of the trade, Chris. I know

1422
01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't fully understand the question. In terms

1423
01:18:36,360 --> 01:18:37,720
Speaker 1: of I didn't know you wanted me to give him

1424
01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:40,120
Speaker 1: a full You know, this guy's gonna get traded to

1425
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:42,720
Speaker 1: team A, B or C, so I wanted to call

1426
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:47,000
Speaker 1: and sort of retain myself. Yeah, go ahead. I think

1427
01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:51,200
Speaker 1: Garoppolo makes the most sense because you know, they got

1428
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:53,559
Speaker 1: Trey Lance, and they've invested so much in Trey Lance.

1429
01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:55,320
Speaker 1: I think that they're ready to move on to him,

1430
01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:59,559
Speaker 1: and I think the team that makes the most sense

1431
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:02,720
Speaker 1: in terms of trading for Garoppolo. I know you guys

1432
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:06,800
Speaker 1: just got done talking about Indianapolis and how they could

1433
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:10,639
Speaker 1: end this QB carousel looking pretty dumb, to be honest

1434
01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:12,720
Speaker 1: with you, But another team I think that could end

1435
01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:16,240
Speaker 1: up being like that as the Pittsburgh Steelers. They've had

1436
01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:18,639
Speaker 1: they've known for a couple of years now that Ben

1437
01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:21,280
Speaker 1: is getting towards the end. And I'm not sure what

1438
01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:25,000
Speaker 1: your opinion of Mason Rudolph is, but I could see

1439
01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:29,080
Speaker 1: both the Steelers and of course the Colts because, like

1440
01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:31,760
Speaker 1: you mentioned, I mean, what's their depth chart looked like.

1441
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:35,320
Speaker 1: So I'm curious what you guys feel about in terms

1442
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:38,120
Speaker 1: of the Steelers in their quarterback situation and how desperate

1443
01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:40,360
Speaker 1: they could get I mean, they've done a good team

1444
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:43,400
Speaker 1: for a really, really long time. That's a really tough

1445
01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:45,760
Speaker 1: division in terms of, you know, not just roster but

1446
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:48,640
Speaker 1: quarterback play. Do you feel the same way about the

1447
01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:50,960
Speaker 1: Steelers that you've just sort of expressed about the Colts.

1448
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:54,519
Speaker 1: I'm curious what you think, right you go first, Steve, Yeah,

1449
01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:56,720
Speaker 1: I agree with you about the Steelers. It looks like

1450
01:19:56,720 --> 01:19:58,880
Speaker 1: a down year for me for them. Now they've got

1451
01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:00,880
Speaker 1: some cat money to spend. I do trust and I

1452
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 1: like and respect Mike Tomlin a lot. He'll get the

1453
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:06,519
Speaker 1: he'll maximize his roster, no question about it, and they'll

1454
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:10,479
Speaker 1: delve into free agency coming up. But I think the

1455
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:13,479
Speaker 1: Steelers for the first time in like you said, in

1456
01:20:13,479 --> 01:20:16,800
Speaker 1: a long long time today, with the situation with their

1457
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:19,360
Speaker 1: rosters or Mason Rudolph is not the guy. I don't know.

1458
01:20:19,720 --> 01:20:22,599
Speaker 1: He's not the good quarterback they need. He's not gonna

1459
01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:25,439
Speaker 1: be good enough. The drop off will be too substantial

1460
01:20:25,479 --> 01:20:27,760
Speaker 1: if you're gonna put Ben Roethlisberger out there playing the

1461
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:29,840
Speaker 1: way he played last year. Now, certainly, if even if

1462
01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:32,639
Speaker 1: Mathon Rudolph was better, there's no guarantee the Steelers would

1463
01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:35,760
Speaker 1: have played him just because of the politics of the

1464
01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:42,120
Speaker 1: locker room. Maybe, But if Mason Rudolph couldn't outplay Ben

1465
01:20:42,240 --> 01:20:44,720
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger the way he was playing last year, he's not

1466
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:47,599
Speaker 1: the guy and he has not looked that good when

1467
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:50,760
Speaker 1: he's gotten in there for short stints when Roethlisberger was

1468
01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:54,920
Speaker 1: hurt in twenty twenty with an elbow and all that stuff. So, yeah,

1469
01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:57,240
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers are desperate for a quarterback and it

1470
01:20:57,280 --> 01:21:01,600
Speaker 1: looks like a down year for them now today, for me,

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Speaker 1: they're the fourth team in the division. They may change

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Speaker 1: tomorrow if they sign a guy like if they sign

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01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:10,000
Speaker 1: a guy like Garoppolo, they go right up there with

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01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:13,760
Speaker 1: Cincinnati and Baltimore and Cleveland. They're they're they're going to

1475
01:21:13,840 --> 01:21:16,240
Speaker 1: contend if they get a guy like Garoppolo. In my opinion,

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01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:18,439
Speaker 1: I don't think much of Mason Rudolph either. I don't

1477
01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:21,080
Speaker 1: think much of Dwayne Haskins, who are their two quarterbacks

1478
01:21:21,080 --> 01:21:26,480
Speaker 1: on the roster. And it's an interesting dynamic in Pittsburgh.

1479
01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:32,000
Speaker 1: For this reason. This is Kevin Colbert's swan song the GM.

1480
01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:35,920
Speaker 1: He's leaving after the draft, He's going to retire. I

1481
01:21:35,960 --> 01:21:40,000
Speaker 1: think there is probably a big part of him that

1482
01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:43,080
Speaker 1: wants to set this franchise up for the future at

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01:21:43,080 --> 01:21:47,599
Speaker 1: the quarterback position. So if they are unable to land

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01:21:47,680 --> 01:21:50,120
Speaker 1: one of these top three free agent quarterbacks that we

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01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:56,160
Speaker 1: have mentioned, basically Mitchell Trubisky, Jamis Winston, or trade for Garoppolo,

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01:21:58,040 --> 01:22:02,400
Speaker 1: I think that Kevin Colbert moves up the board. They're

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01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:06,439
Speaker 1: picking twentieth. I could see him moving somewhere into the

1488
01:22:06,439 --> 01:22:09,960
Speaker 1: top ten to try to draft Malik Willis. I could

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01:22:09,960 --> 01:22:14,240
Speaker 1: see that happening. It's very uncharacteristic of the Steelers. It's

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01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:18,600
Speaker 1: not the kind of move that they make. But I

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01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:23,960
Speaker 1: think on his way out the door, Kevin Colbert, short

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01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:26,720
Speaker 1: of landing a free agent quarterback, is going to make

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01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:28,919
Speaker 1: a gigantic move up the board to get a quarterback

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01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:32,559
Speaker 1: for Mike. Yeah, and he would. He might be willing

1495
01:22:32,560 --> 01:22:34,240
Speaker 1: to roll those dice, knowing that he doesn't have to

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01:22:34,280 --> 01:22:36,640
Speaker 1: sit there and suffer the consequences if he's wrong. And

1497
01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:39,400
Speaker 1: if he's right, what does he care? You know, the

1498
01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:41,599
Speaker 1: next guy can take the credit forward or whatever. Mike Thoma,

1499
01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:45,200
Speaker 1: but he Nicks did the same thing here last year's GM.

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01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:47,320
Speaker 1: He was determined to get a quarterback for the future

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01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:51,160
Speaker 1: of the franchise and the guy available. He got jam

1502
01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:55,479
Speaker 1: Manuel and he traded down once and people in the

1503
01:22:55,560 --> 01:22:58,120
Speaker 1: room said, you could probably trade down again and still

1504
01:22:58,160 --> 01:23:00,639
Speaker 1: be okay, you want to do it because he wanted

1505
01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:03,559
Speaker 1: to get the guy, was the answer. And I remember

1506
01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:06,479
Speaker 1: thinking this too, not to get off on the EJ.

1507
01:23:06,640 --> 01:23:09,240
Speaker 1: Manuel train. But when they drafted EJ. Manuel, I thought, yeah,

1508
01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:10,880
Speaker 1: you're right, that's the guy you gotta get in this

1509
01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:13,200
Speaker 1: in this draft at this point right there, that's the guy.

1510
01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:16,280
Speaker 1: They got him. And it didn't work out, obviously, but

1511
01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:19,679
Speaker 1: for a multitude for a multitude of reasons. That's but yeah,

1512
01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:23,000
Speaker 1: at the time they made that pick, that's what I thought,

1513
01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:24,519
Speaker 1: I agreed with him. I mean, yeah, that's the guy

1514
01:23:24,520 --> 01:23:27,800
Speaker 1: you gotta gets. Uh. That doesn't mean it's gonna go

1515
01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:30,040
Speaker 1: any differently for the Pittsburgh Steeter if they trade up

1516
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:31,640
Speaker 1: or trade down to get a guy, because this is

1517
01:23:31,640 --> 01:23:35,120
Speaker 1: a weak quarterback class too. It's a very weak quarterback class. Um.

1518
01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:39,360
Speaker 1: And but this Reddick has got an arm and he's

1519
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:43,599
Speaker 1: Willis Malik Willis. Malik Willis has got an arm and

1520
01:23:43,640 --> 01:23:45,639
Speaker 1: he can run. He's got it, He's got some he's

1521
01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:49,760
Speaker 1: got a lead physical traits. Yeah, so I could see

1522
01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:52,639
Speaker 1: it happening, because then, particularly if if like you said,

1523
01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:54,400
Speaker 1: he's gonna walk out the door, he doesn't have to

1524
01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:57,040
Speaker 1: stick around for the aftermath, whether it's good or bad.

1525
01:23:57,600 --> 01:23:58,960
Speaker 1: Let's go back to the falls. We go to scot

1526
01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:03,160
Speaker 1: in Cheek Towaganacs. I got for a Scott Hi, guys,

1527
01:24:03,160 --> 01:24:09,360
Speaker 1: how are you good? So I am one hundred percent

1528
01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:13,080
Speaker 1: opposite from you on the chance that the Colts took

1529
01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:17,280
Speaker 1: and having it be a bad move, should those three

1530
01:24:17,320 --> 01:24:23,400
Speaker 1: guys left not become yours. If I'm the Colts, I'm

1531
01:24:23,479 --> 01:24:25,879
Speaker 1: making this move all day and I have no interest

1532
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:31,160
Speaker 1: in trying to acquire any of those guys only because

1533
01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:34,200
Speaker 1: of the way that the QUB landscape looks like this

1534
01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:40,559
Speaker 1: year from a drafting standpoint, next year's looks better. They're

1535
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:44,639
Speaker 1: they're a really good team, and their defensive solid, the

1536
01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:48,320
Speaker 1: tailor and their offensive line are just sellar. I think

1537
01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:52,200
Speaker 1: you go out and get Fitzpatrick or Dalton or Bridgewater.

1538
01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:56,000
Speaker 1: They are not that much behind Wentz. And if you

1539
01:24:56,080 --> 01:24:58,880
Speaker 1: can sell high on Wentz now while everybody's looking to

1540
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:02,240
Speaker 1: scramble for a qv and you can get a second

1541
01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:05,000
Speaker 1: and a third rounder this year and potentially a second

1542
01:25:05,040 --> 01:25:08,040
Speaker 1: next year. If Wentz gets a seventy percent time in

1543
01:25:08,080 --> 01:25:10,760
Speaker 1: this year. We know Washington's gonna play that much on

1544
01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:14,040
Speaker 1: less he's heard they got, and I know that the

1545
01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:17,200
Speaker 1: Indies out. I think Steve mentioned the sinker of it

1546
01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:21,639
Speaker 1: all is or maybe Browny you said it. The Coats

1547
01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:24,439
Speaker 1: are down a first round pick this year. Yeah, so

1548
01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:29,160
Speaker 1: you give them two seconds, two thirds, they could really

1549
01:25:29,240 --> 01:25:33,160
Speaker 1: load up for next year and get their long term

1550
01:25:33,439 --> 01:25:37,280
Speaker 1: QB and just get a guy. I would rather if

1551
01:25:37,320 --> 01:25:39,519
Speaker 1: I if I'm the Bills and we didn't have Alan,

1552
01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:42,280
Speaker 1: I need a guy right now. I would take Fitzpatrick

1553
01:25:42,360 --> 01:25:45,439
Speaker 1: over any of those guys that you said are remaining.

1554
01:25:45,439 --> 01:25:47,840
Speaker 1: All right, but I think you just and I don't

1555
01:25:47,840 --> 01:25:49,840
Speaker 1: mean to interrupt, Scott, but we are up against the break,

1556
01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:51,519
Speaker 1: and I thank you for the call. But I believe

1557
01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:54,160
Speaker 1: what you just said was they may not be as

1558
01:25:54,200 --> 01:25:59,080
Speaker 1: good as Wentz, meaning Fitzpatrick or Bridgewater. And I would say,

1559
01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:01,800
Speaker 1: you're right, they're not as good as Wentz. And so

1560
01:26:01,960 --> 01:26:05,200
Speaker 1: because of that, you can't tell me that the Colts

1561
01:26:05,240 --> 01:26:07,680
Speaker 1: are a better team, even if they load up on

1562
01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:10,559
Speaker 1: draft picks and hit hit on some players. You're not

1563
01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:14,400
Speaker 1: winning if your quarterback is worse, if your quarterback position

1564
01:26:14,520 --> 01:26:17,639
Speaker 1: is not as talented, not as gifted, not as good

1565
01:26:17,640 --> 01:26:21,000
Speaker 1: at preventing interceptions, which I think Ryan Fitzpatrick's history will

1566
01:26:21,000 --> 01:26:23,160
Speaker 1: tell you is not at least in terms of what

1567
01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:26,599
Speaker 1: Wentz did last year. You're not better. And if you're

1568
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:30,280
Speaker 1: not better, where are you going? As the Colts organization

1569
01:26:30,400 --> 01:26:32,840
Speaker 1: they played, they had a really good roster last year

1570
01:26:32,920 --> 01:26:36,080
Speaker 1: that had a quarterback that was twenty six and four

1571
01:26:36,600 --> 01:26:40,040
Speaker 1: east four interceptions at last game he finished no three interceptions.

1572
01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:45,439
Speaker 1: He was twenty six and four touchdown interceptions over the

1573
01:26:45,439 --> 01:26:48,080
Speaker 1: course of the regular season, and they still needed to

1574
01:26:48,120 --> 01:26:50,559
Speaker 1: win to get in and they couldn't get it done.

1575
01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:51,960
Speaker 1: He had a bad game at the last game of

1576
01:26:51,960 --> 01:26:53,639
Speaker 1: the season. They couldn't get in. They got shut out.

1577
01:26:54,080 --> 01:26:57,840
Speaker 1: That's what a guy going twenty six and four touchdown

1578
01:26:57,880 --> 01:27:00,479
Speaker 1: interceptions over the course of the regular season they couldn't

1579
01:27:00,479 --> 01:27:02,439
Speaker 1: get with a running game and that defense and that

1580
01:27:02,520 --> 01:27:04,760
Speaker 1: chap And you're telling me a guy that's not that

1581
01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:07,800
Speaker 1: good is gonna make you more sound. You're gonna get

1582
01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:10,519
Speaker 1: in and best takeaway defense in football. And if you're

1583
01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:13,400
Speaker 1: gonna sit out there and say, well, then take a

1584
01:27:13,479 --> 01:27:16,960
Speaker 1: down year to get back to their Now, I mean

1585
01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:19,240
Speaker 1: he don't take a step back as the most important

1586
01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:21,559
Speaker 1: position in football and cost your team another year of

1587
01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:24,599
Speaker 1: not making the playoff. You're not gonna tank, well not tank,

1588
01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:27,280
Speaker 1: but you're not gonna be any better to make the playoffs. Right,

1589
01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:29,880
Speaker 1: so you're right back where you were. You're no better.

1590
01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:33,160
Speaker 1: They are gonna be none fascinating to watch next week.

1591
01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:35,360
Speaker 1: There's only a couple of quarterbacks in that group that

1592
01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:37,640
Speaker 1: we're man. If you don't like you don't like Trubisky,

1593
01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:41,519
Speaker 1: or you don't like Jamis Winston, you don't like uh whatever,

1594
01:27:41,600 --> 01:27:43,479
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo, all of those players. If you don't like

1595
01:27:43,520 --> 01:27:45,519
Speaker 1: any of those players better than or you like all

1596
01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:48,040
Speaker 1: of them better than than Winz, they're gonna have to

1597
01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:51,080
Speaker 1: play pretty darn good, even better than they did this year.

1598
01:27:51,080 --> 01:27:54,080
Speaker 1: They're gonna have played rounded better than they did yet

1599
01:27:54,200 --> 01:27:57,120
Speaker 1: this year, and the coach is gonna have him have

1600
01:27:57,200 --> 01:28:00,280
Speaker 1: to give a guy like Trubisky or Jamis Winston or

1601
01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:02,080
Speaker 1: of those guys. They're gonna to give them better weapons

1602
01:28:02,120 --> 01:28:03,920
Speaker 1: on the outside. T Y Hilton's not there anymore. They

1603
01:28:03,920 --> 01:28:05,640
Speaker 1: don't have guys on the outside they can play. And

1604
01:28:05,640 --> 01:28:07,559
Speaker 1: you got to overpay for him just to get him

1605
01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:10,800
Speaker 1: in the building so they get some work to do. Yeah,

1606
01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:12,559
Speaker 1: break time for us. We're back to close it up.

1607
01:28:12,600 --> 01:28:28,479
Speaker 1: Stay tuned, all right, here we are closing things up

1608
01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:32,920
Speaker 1: on a Thursday as we inch ever closer to the

1609
01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:38,400
Speaker 1: free agent market. And um man, it's it's crazy how

1610
01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:43,400
Speaker 1: this morphed into what the don't the Colts thinking the show?

1611
01:28:43,439 --> 01:28:45,640
Speaker 1: But it did. We went down a rabbit hole with

1612
01:28:45,640 --> 01:28:47,519
Speaker 1: a cold thing about don digging on and we just

1613
01:28:47,720 --> 01:28:49,280
Speaker 1: we can't get our We couldn't find our way out

1614
01:28:49,320 --> 01:28:51,599
Speaker 1: of the weeds. Well, I think it's because we're so stunned.

1615
01:28:52,200 --> 01:28:55,439
Speaker 1: Oh listen, don't forget. We were there not too long ago.

1616
01:28:55,720 --> 01:28:58,360
Speaker 1: The franchise for a decade and a half was sitting

1617
01:28:58,439 --> 01:29:00,200
Speaker 1: right there in the middle of it. They couldn't find

1618
01:29:00,200 --> 01:29:02,320
Speaker 1: a guy that could take snaps. Finally you get even

1619
01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:06,160
Speaker 1: a guy like Tyrod Taylor. We were happy to have him,

1620
01:29:06,200 --> 01:29:09,080
Speaker 1: and he got this team to the playoffs one year. Yeah,

1621
01:29:09,720 --> 01:29:11,680
Speaker 1: I don't know that he ever played as good as

1622
01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:13,599
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz did last year with the Colts not making

1623
01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:17,040
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Right, and people still forget the Colts were

1624
01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:20,280
Speaker 1: number one in the league intern over marching and still

1625
01:29:20,280 --> 01:29:23,280
Speaker 1: didn't get there. It's just it's amazing though, yeah, it's

1626
01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:27,040
Speaker 1: an Amazing's glad we're not in quarterback purgatory anymore. Sam

1627
01:29:27,160 --> 01:29:29,639
Speaker 1: Rappaport from the NFL office tomorrow on the show We'll

1628
01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:36,600
Speaker 1: see it one