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Speaker 3: This is the drive on the Steelers Audio Network, and

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Speaker 3: I'm Dale Lolli. He is the Matt Williamson in his

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Speaker 3: time for a little mock draft action. Here, Matt kick

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Speaker 3: off our number two and I'm on the Pro Football

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Speaker 3: Focus mock drafter because we can do player trades on here. Okay,

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Speaker 3: what are you throwing at me here? I have traded

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Speaker 3: what to the Los Angeles Rams? Okay, pick one sixty three? Okay,

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Speaker 3: that seventh rounder? Uh no, that's a fifth round. That

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Speaker 3: was the fifth. That's a fifth. I gave him a fifth.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna give us pick two oh two and Cooper

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Speaker 3: Cup Sign me up. They're bumping up for forty spots

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Speaker 3: in the draft.

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Speaker 1: Good fine, sign me up. That sounds I like it,

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Speaker 1: all right. I think they do that. I think if

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Speaker 1: Omar called them right now, they'd say yes to that.

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Speaker 3: We now have.

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Speaker 1: Who have we signed? Since we have a quarterbacks? Of course,

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Speaker 1: we have a quarterback, all right. I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: say who which one? We just we have a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Then house.

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Speaker 1: Okay, and I'm sure they would have signed more, but

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Speaker 3: In the house. Okay. So we are now up at

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Speaker 3: pick twenty one. Well, Walter Nolan just went to pick

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Speaker 3: ahead of us to the Denver Broncos.

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Speaker 1: Good because I don't want to take pick him every time.

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Speaker 3: We got to pick. Somebody's different. So the guys available,

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Speaker 3: Mmm, we got six trade offers.

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Speaker 1: Grant is appealing. I know we have Cup, but that

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Speaker 1: We don't really do business.

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Speaker 3: Don't do business with that, right. The Eagles pick thirty one,

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Speaker 3: and then everybody else is outside of the first round.

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Speaker 3: So the Eagles have picked thirty one, sixty three, ninety five,

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Speaker 3: one sixty eight, one sixty two, one sixty six, one

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Speaker 3: sixty eight. We're obviously gonna they're gonna want pick twenty one.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna want pick thirty one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we might want to pick sixty three too.

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Speaker 3: They would do that.

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Speaker 1: I would think that's a big jump in the first round.

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Speaker 3: I will toss in our last seventh rounder. If they

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Speaker 3: We'll give us thirty one, sixty three, one sixty two

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Speaker 3: Then I'm gonna offer that out there and they accept it. Okay,

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Speaker 3: So the top player is still available now Tyler Williams,

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Speaker 1: Did you say Hampton's available? I couldn't remember he was.

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Speaker 1: And just because this is on a laptop and not

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Speaker 3: I hear what I'm saying. I mean Loveland hasn't shown

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Speaker 1: I hate to trade down too much, but I just

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Speaker 3: trade down that far. It's silly.

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Speaker 1: Panthers have to be close though.

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Speaker 3: They don't have a second round until fifty eight. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, Cup is closer to a

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Speaker 3: Than he would you consider a Yemin or or beck

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Speaker 1: I think he's too small. I don't think he's a Steeler. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I think he's probably a little too late in the pass.

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Speaker 1: I think you take the corner. Which one do you prefer?

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Speaker 1: I'm fine with it. I mean they were my three

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Speaker 3: I think Ravel is a big time player. Just the

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Speaker 1: It's probably the reason he's available, right.

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Speaker 3: But he's another six foot two cornerback that yeah. I

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Speaker 1: Is awesome, really really good.

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Speaker 3: You know, he was awesome to start this season until

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Speaker 1: I mean, if he's clearing folks, if he's cleaning at

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Speaker 1: the combine, he could be the fifteenth pick in the draft.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's about I think you're getting a

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Speaker 1: I love it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, so that's the pick.

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Speaker 1: I would considered him a twenty one yeah, I really.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. All right, we're up again here. Top players Jayalen Walker,

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Speaker 1: I think he's I don't know enough about it. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know he's smaller, but I haven't.

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Speaker 3: Watched watch him really fast.

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Speaker 1: I know he's explosive.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Caleb Johnson who we took yesterday, Calknard Saveon Williams, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, learned from Cup a little bit, and right.

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Speaker 3: Donovan Jackson, Derek Harmon, he's really not for me.

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Speaker 1: I wish you'd have been the Senior Bowl because I

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Speaker 3: My biggest question with him is that if you look,

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Speaker 1: Right right, right. I mean, I know he had a

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Speaker 3: of Mississippi, Ozzie Trapeo tackle out of Boston College. Darius Alexander,

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Speaker 3: defensive lineman out of Toledo. We didn't take a defensive lineman.

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Speaker 1: I think he's my favorite d linman you mentioned just.

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Speaker 3: Looking here at what else is it? Alfred Collins is there.

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Speaker 1: I like him as well.

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Speaker 3: Travian Henderson and Quinn Shawn Jenkins.

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Speaker 1: We must have a pick here really soon again.

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Speaker 3: We got sixty three coming. Yeah, yeah, so I think

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Speaker 3: I think you take Alexander. Yeah, and THENTB go running back.

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Speaker 1: So maybe keep your fingers crossed at Johnson falls to

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Speaker 3: All right, Darius Alexander it is.

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Speaker 1: I really like him and I like him a lot.

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Speaker 3: All right, we're back up now at sixty three, and

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Speaker 3: we can still take a nose. Jalen Walker still there,

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Speaker 3: Donovan Jackson still there, Ozzie Trapio, still there, Wyatt Millan

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Speaker 1: If you had to pick between the Ohio state guys,

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Speaker 1: who to take, Jenkins is much more steel er asque. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I think Henderson's a better prospect. I don't think

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Speaker 3: Let me let me see what the other running backs

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Speaker 3: who who's still available out there? We got another pick

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Speaker 3: coming up at eighty five. Henderson Judkins, Devin Neil is there.

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Speaker 3: Damian Martinez Withshard Smith, jar Quiz Hunter is there, Trevor atn,

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Speaker 3: Caleb Mullings Mcgonagy, Yarns, Teuton.

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Speaker 1: Tutons are still Yeah, I'd have Touton higher on that list.

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Speaker 1: He's Fumbler. Yeah. Who's the receivers at wide receiver you're

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Speaker 1: looking at? Jalen Royals, Isaiah Bond, Tees Johnson, Trey Harris,

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Speaker 1: Jalen Knowle, Tory Holton or Horton. I should say Pat Bryant,

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Speaker 1: Kobe Hudson, Kyle Nash. Kind of like Royals and not

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm the top players available here. Jeffrey Bassa, the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, azeri A. Thomas, the cornerback out of Florida.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Anthony Belton, the tackle out of North Carolina State.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully Neil's still floating around. I bet the Ohio State

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Speaker 1: And Cooper Cup and Cooper Cup all draft day stuff.

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Speaker 3: You're the guys that are available. Jaln Milroe.

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Speaker 3: Don't think anything. It's kind of cheating. Jacob Parrish, the

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Speaker 1: Royal is a bad pick, but farmers A. You attacked

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Speaker 3: Now you've haded two quality players in Equality defensive line drafted. Yeah, uh,

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Speaker 3: you're back up now at one sixty two. Top players

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Speaker 3: Seth McLaughlin, center out of Ohio State. Thomas faedone tight

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Speaker 1: He's a good player. He's a good player. Roberts would

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Speaker 3: Dorian Strong, cornerback out of Virginia Tech.

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Speaker 1: Another long dude. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Marcus Yarns, the running back out of Delaware.

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Speaker 3: Joanah Mannheim the center out of USC. Emery Jones.

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Speaker 3: Offensive tackle out of LSU, and I'm not I.

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Speaker 1: sixty four. He plays hard. He was in the first

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Speaker 3: Adam to the mix.

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Speaker 3: Uh. Now we're up at two oh two top guys available.

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Speaker 3: Curtis Rourke, quarterback out of Indiana, Max Brosmer, quarterback out

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Speaker 1: Cam. I like Roork and Shock a lot. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, tough guys.

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Speaker 3: Mickens, a safety from Clemson. We just take one of

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Speaker 3: Well, we took shuck yesterday. Let's take work today. Talk

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Speaker 3: Got one pick left. That's at two twenty five. Shucks.

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Speaker 3: Still there, Brosmer is still there. Graham martz Emerts from Florida.

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Speaker 3: out of West Virginia. I'm just looking at Montreal Johnson

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Speaker 3: Donovan Edwards is still there too. If you're just looking

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Speaker 1: To return or slash third down guy, he's an athlete.

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Speaker 3: The seventh round pick.

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Speaker 1: I'm fine with that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and there we go. We came out all right.

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Speaker 3: We got an A minus for taking Chevanne. Yeah, C

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Speaker 3: minus for Darius Alexander, but we took him ahead of

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Speaker 3: We got an a plus on courtis Curtis Rourke take

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Speaker 3: a quarterback, but we ended up with Chevon Ravel after

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Speaker 3: the second round, Jalen Royals and the third or actually

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Speaker 3: with our second second round pick, gotcha for moving back

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Speaker 3: Devin Neil at running back Josh Farmer in the fourth round.

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Speaker 1: At that's the Steeler draft. That's the value.

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Speaker 3: He's a good player. In the fifth round, we got

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Speaker 3: Emery Jones Junior.

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Speaker 1: That's the bonus prize.

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Speaker 3: That's the bonus prize because we traded that fifth round

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Speaker 3: we got it. We got it back.

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Speaker 3: Nice Curtis Rourke in the in the sixth round, and

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Low bonus prize. Oh Linman didn't go tight

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Speaker 1: I would take that. I like the draft, Yeah, actually

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Speaker 3: And you got Cooper Cup.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, Cooper cups the next right, and

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Speaker 1: I don't think he'd be expensive. And we opened the

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Speaker 3: No, I don't wake it. I mean, yeah, just the way.

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Speaker 1: moving up from six to five. It is a lot

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Speaker 3: We got at one sixty two. We were initially it

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Speaker 1: We got Emery Jones there, okay, yeah, yeah, he may

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Speaker 1: I mean, Jones might be your three third tackle sooner

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Speaker 3: That was a really good offensive line at LSU.

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Speaker 1: his name, but Fraser was a tackle guard, interesting player too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah Yeah, they grow him big down, Yeah they do. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Bill Johnson's gonna go pretty too.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, But that's not a bad Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I like, that's maybe my favorite one yet.

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Speaker 3: That's not a bad build.

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Speaker 1: No, And Cooper Cup has something to do with it.

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Speaker 3: But I also think moving back, once we saw the

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Speaker 1: Right, you know, Like I think I was leaning towards

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Speaker 3: Instead, we got a defense. We got a defensive end

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 3: And then we got Josh Farmer, who's right, okay.

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Speaker 1: Lot younger too, right, right, So now I like that.

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Speaker 1: That's probably my favorite trap so far.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so put that up on the YouTube page.

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Speaker 3: Matt Williamson, mister cat fancy. Oh boy, Matt mel Kiper

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So at quarterback he's got Shador Sanders number one.

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Speaker 1: Hmmm. He takes a lot of sacks. I just don't

436
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Speaker 1: see special stuff either, but he's accurate, he's tough. I

437
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Speaker 1: don't know. I would go with Ward.

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Speaker 3: Cam Mordy has number two, Jackson Dart three, Okay Will

439
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:27,440
Speaker 3: Howard four, Jaln Milroe five, Cal McCord six, Quinn youw

440
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Speaker 3: Weers seven, Tyler Schuck eight, Dylan Gabriel nine, Curtis Worked ten.

441
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Speaker 1: Not that much complaints with that. I need to watch

442
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Speaker 1: more McCord, but I don't think he's very athletic. Yeah,

443
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Speaker 1: I think he's more pocket passer. Not that anyone's a

444
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:45,520
Speaker 1: statue at this point. I mean.

445
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Speaker 3: He had been at Ohio State.

446
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he had a really good year in Syracuse.

447
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but he had been at Ohio State with a

448
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,960
Speaker 3: bunch of really good receivers and they couldn't wait to

449
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Speaker 3: kind of get rid of them.

450
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Speaker 1: Oh, they were down on him. I think he lost

451
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Speaker 1: some confidence and you know, change the scenery did him

452
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Speaker 1: some good. Yeah.

453
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Speaker 3: The guys who both Nicks and you know, the guys

454
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Speaker 3: who just missed were Riley Leonard and Seth Henigan out

455
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Speaker 3: of Memphis.

456
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Speaker 1: He wasn't bad and seeniable. Yeah. Yeah.

457
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Speaker 3: At running back, Ashton Genty, Omarion Hampton, Dylan Sampson from Tennessee,

458
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,200
Speaker 3: la Quinn Allen from Syracuse good receiver.

459
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sriyed the Tennessee kids that.

460
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Speaker 3: High quin Shawn Judkins out of Ohio State, Travon Henderson

461
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Speaker 3: out of Ohio State, Caleb Johnson all the way down

462
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Speaker 3: so low. I don't know Cam Scattaboo at the eight,

463
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Speaker 3: not I him to Trevor atn out of Georgia at nine,

464
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Speaker 3: Devin Neil out of Kansas at ten. I that whole

465
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Speaker 3: group is.

466
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Speaker 1: That's really good, pretty talented. I mean if Neils your tenth, yeah,

467
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Speaker 1: most years'd.

468
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Speaker 3: Be like your fifth. Yeah, right, the guys you just missed,

469
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,400
Speaker 3: and there's a bunch of them. RJ. Harvey at UCF,

470
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Speaker 3: Damian Martinez out of Miami, Jordan James out of Oregon,

471
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Speaker 3: Brishard Smith out of SMU, Taj Brooks out of Texas Tech,

472
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Speaker 3: and Ollie Gordon out of Oklahoma State.

473
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Speaker 1: Starters in that group.

474
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean know the just miss at wide receiver,

475
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Speaker 3: Travis Hunter at number one.

476
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Speaker 1: And say where do you put him? You put him

477
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Speaker 1: at a receiver, a.

478
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Speaker 3: Corner, Tedoro McMillan at number two, Luther Burden at number three,

479
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Speaker 3: Igbuca at four, Matthew Golden at five, Kyle Williams out

480
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Speaker 3: of Washington State at six.

481
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Speaker 1: I see it, Yeah, that doesn't flow me away.

482
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Speaker 3: Jack Betch at seven, Okay, eight is Jalen Nowell nine,

483
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Speaker 3: Jalen Royals at a Utah State who he took it

484
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Speaker 3: is now ten? Saveon Williams out of TCU. The guys

485
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Speaker 3: who just missed, Isaiah Bond, Ted Johnson, Jayden Higgins out

486
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Speaker 3: of Iowa State, Elick Aymanor out of Stanford, and Xavier

487
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Speaker 3: Rostropo from Miami.

488
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Speaker 1: I have a feeling that group's going to grow on

489
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Speaker 1: us more and more, and it certainly has during Senior

490
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Speaker 1: Bowl week. It's it's pretty good. I mean when we

491
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Speaker 1: say it's a down receiver class, just always up here.

492
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know right, they don't have the like, I

493
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Speaker 3: don't know what Travis Hunter is. I don't know if

494
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Speaker 3: the team's going to allow to play full time wide receiver.

495
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Speaker 3: If he's gonna be a full time wide receiver, he's

496
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Speaker 3: going to be a.

497
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Speaker 1: Full He's not Jamar Chase, No, he's not. He's not

498
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Speaker 1: one of the two guys that were the top last

499
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Speaker 1: year wide receivers. Like, I don't know that he'd have

500
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Speaker 1: gone ahead receiver. Only does he go ahead of Lake

501
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,159
Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson when he came out? Maybe not? You know right.

502
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Speaker 1: Hunter's a weird one though. Obviously we're going to skip

503
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Speaker 1: over tight end. But it's a good group. I think

504
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Speaker 1: it's a very good group. Yeah.

505
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Speaker 3: Uh, we're gonna skip over full backs and h backs

506
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Speaker 3: because yeah, I can't believe there's ten of them on

507
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Speaker 3: there offensive tackles. We can buzz through that real quick.

508
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Speaker 3: Will Campbell, Kelvin Banks, Josh Simmons, Josh Connery, Anthony Belton,

509
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Speaker 3: Marcus Mboo, Arianta Ursiie Cameron Williams out of Texas, Ozzie

510
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Speaker 3: Trapillo out of Boston College, and Emery Jones out of LSU.

511
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Speaker 1: There's some guards on that list. Yeah, but I think

512
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Speaker 1: those guys will start their career tackle and then we'll try. Yeah.

513
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 1: Even people talking about Will Johnson being a center. Yeah.

514
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Speaker 3: Uh, Guards, you got Tyler Booker, arm Membo Grey, Zabel,

515
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Speaker 3: Donovan Jackson, Jonas Siavanea, Dylan Fairchild, Wyatt Millam, Tate Ratledge,

516
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Speaker 3: Josh Gray, and Connor Colby out of Iowa.

517
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Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know. Kolby center's obviously. The Steelers nothing

518
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Speaker 1: anything at center draft, and I think they're gonna try

519
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 1: to manufacture some center, yeah, like Zabel and yeah.

520
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 3: Right the defensive ends. Shamar Stewart number one, He's kind of.

521
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Speaker 1: The wild card, the first ahead of abdel Carter.

522
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Speaker 3: He lifts him as an edge.

523
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Speaker 1: Oh Okay, I don't know. Okays and edges are different

524
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Speaker 1: on this list. Okay, well that makes sense.

525
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 3: Stewart's kind of the wild card of the first round.

526
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Speaker 1: Coaches are gonna love him. I mean, scouts be like, hey,

527
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Speaker 1: he wasn't that productive first guy off the bus.

528
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Speaker 3: Kind of Yeah, look at this guy and then he's

529
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Speaker 3: gonna he's gonna blow up the combine.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he'll go high.

531
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Speaker 3: His team made it Texas A and M Nick Scowerton

532
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Speaker 3: number two.

533
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Speaker 1: So I was hearing some things about him. He played

534
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Speaker 1: like fifteen pounds heavier at A and them they want

535
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 1: those big edges, like you know what guy was talked about.

536
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Speaker 1: Then he did a Purdue, but he was a lot

537
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Speaker 1: better at Purdue. You know, so maybe he's just a

538
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Speaker 1: four to three end. Don't make him huge.

539
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Speaker 3: You know. Landon Jackson out of Arkansas, who is a

540
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Speaker 3: four to three end. He did a good sceenerabl Tua

541
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Speaker 3: Maloa out of Ohio State, Jordan Birch out of Oregon,

542
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,680
Speaker 3: jack Sawyer out of Ohio State. Uh, Savian Tron buzz

543
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Speaker 3: on him.

544
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Speaker 1: I mean, I know he's a quality player, but that

545
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 1: seems rich. Yeah.

546
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Speaker 3: Savion Jones out of LSU.

547
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Speaker 1: Seon Jones had a heck of a Senior Bowl. He's

548
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Speaker 1: gonna test like crazy. I don't know if he's stout

549
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Speaker 1: enough to be a three to four end, but he's

550
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Speaker 1: he's six five ish and almost three hundred pounds. Yeah,

551
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Speaker 1: he's an intriguing potential Steealer to.

552
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Speaker 3: Me, Baron Surrell from Texas, Jared Ivy from Ole Miss,

553
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Speaker 3: and Ashton Jelot from Louisville.

554
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 1: Okay, it's hard to say who goes to edge and

555
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 1: who goes to end. I mean some of those guys

556
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Speaker 1: are borderline.

557
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Speaker 3: The defensive tackles.

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Speaker 1: This is a good group.

559
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Speaker 3: Mason Graham out of Walter Nolan out of ole Miss. Yeah,

560
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 3: Kenneth Grant out of Michigan, Derek Carmon out of Oregon,

561
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 3: Darius Alexander out of Toledo.

562
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Speaker 1: Real quick. On Nolan, I think it's gonna be pretty

563
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: clear that he's going to be the two which worries

564
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 1: you can you can you go? Graham goes like four

565
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Speaker 1: or five.

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Speaker 3: That's why I said, guy like Shamar Stewart, if he goes,

567
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Speaker 3: somebody takes him instead.

568
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

569
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Speaker 3: Yeah, did they say, oh we're good at you know what?

570
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Speaker 3: Just beauty's going to be in the eye of the beholder.

571
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Speaker 1: T J.

572
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Speaker 3: Sanders after Derek Alexander, Josh Farmer, Yeah, Tyler Williams, well

573
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,919
Speaker 3: it's pretty late for him, but yeah, Alfred Collins out

574
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 3: of Texas, ty Robertson on me too, Nebraska.

575
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Speaker 1: They're all the top ten. They've just missed the they do.

576
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 3: You're looking at Omar and Norman Lott out of Tennessee,

577
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,400
Speaker 3: Deane Walker out of Kentucky, Jordan Phillips out of Maryland,

578
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 3: and CJ. West out of Indiana.

579
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Speaker 1: West is a guy that I grabbing morks like in

580
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 1: round five a lot. He's a nose. But that just

581
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Speaker 1: missed list. Would all be top ten guys most years. Yeah,

582
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 1: they're good. We're not going to do off ball, linebackers,

583
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 1: outside backers. You're looking at Abdill Carter, mikel Williams, Mike Greene,

584
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: James Pierce, Donovan Azuroku, Prince yu Oladejo from UCLA, Braden

585
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: Swinson from LSU, David Walker from Central Arkansas, and Kyle

586
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: Canard from South Carolina. That group there that those first

587
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Speaker 1: four or five, I think' all go in the first round.

588
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 3: And that's going to be the Do those guys help

589
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 3: maybe push one of those defensive tackles.

590
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Speaker 1: I think you want them to go in the top twenty. Yeah,

591
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 1: it's funny, we were thinking the exact same thing. I

592
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 1: was just saying, I think it was four and then

593
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Speaker 1: I lost count. They're definitely go in the first round,

594
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 1: but if they go in the top twenty. Yay, you know, yeah, right,

595
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 1: you're not in the market for one, right, same with

596
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: you know the A and M dudes. Yeah, you know,

597
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: cornerbacks we list.

598
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 3: He has Travis Hunter on top, but he doesn't list

599
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 3: him with the numbers because he counts ten after that

600
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 3: because he considers him a wide receiver first.

601
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Speaker 1: And is he I think it depends what team he

602
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Speaker 1: goes to.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, uh, Will Johnson from Michigan, Benjamin Morrison from there,

604
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 3: Dame Maxwell Harriston from Kentucky.

605
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 1: I like the way Kentucky turns out tough dudes on defense. Yeah. Uh.

606
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 3: Then you got John A. Baron from Texas, Quincy Riley

607
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 3: from Louisville, Zirier Thomas from Florida State, Good Javon Revel,

608
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 3: East Carolina.

609
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 1: Him and Morrison obviously are injury dependent.

610
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 3: Trey Amos from Ole, miss Sebastian Castro at nine. Now

611
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 3: he's a safety to say is he a safety? But

612
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 3: he's he's he can play the slot. He played a

613
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 3: lot of slot in Iowa.

614
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Speaker 1: Do you know what his size is?

615
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 3: They's like five eleven two pounds.

616
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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, so he's kind of a jackall I.

617
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 3: Actually talked to him as a senior Bowl. He's an

618
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 3: he's like twenty five, though, that's doesn't.

619
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Speaker 1: Break your heart. I mean you get four years out

620
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 1: him center on his way or yeah, i mean, I'm

621
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: sure he's not the Jean, but he has the versatility.

622
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: And yeah, Iowa guys are always NFL ready.

623
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 3: Then Noel Williams out of cow Okay, the guys who

624
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 3: just missed, Darien Porter out of Iowa State.

625
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: He's got the Porter traits.

626
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, Zia Alexander from LSU kind of the same thing.

627
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 3: He's quarter.

628
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 1: He was a big time shrying game guys.

629
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Speaker 3: And then the little guy Upton Stout from Western Kentucky.

630
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Speaker 1: I think he's like a Hilton type. Yeah, it would

631
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: fit in really well here.

632
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a nice group. Safety. You got Malachi Starks,

633
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 3: Nick Mwari, Kevin Winston Junior from Penn State, Xavier Wats

634
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 3: from Notre Dame, Andrew mccuba from Texas, Jonash Sanker from Virginia,

635
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 3: Latham Ransom from Ohio State, Don'te Trader from Maryland, Billy

636
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 3: Bowman from Oklahoma, and Jalen Reid from Penn State.

637
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Speaker 1: Okay, I'd say safeties and off the ball. Linebackers are

638
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: the positions I know the least about right now. Yeah,

639
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: but there's those top two safeties could maybe go in

640
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: the top twenty. Starks probably will, and that would be

641
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 1: good for those dealers.

642
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, just looking at his top twenty five overall, he

643
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 3: has at one. No surprise, Travis Hunter, I get it.

644
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 3: Two is Abdull Carter.

645
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think he's a fll far.

646
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 3: Three is Mason Graham.

647
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm glad he didn't put the quarterback super high.

648
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 3: Four is Shador Sanders. As soon as you said that, Yeah,

649
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Speaker 3: there he is. Five is cam Ward so.

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Speaker 1: Geene T's a better prospect than George Sanders.

651
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Speaker 3: He has genty at six. Seven is Tedoroa McMillan. I

652
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Speaker 3: don't know if I agree with that.

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Speaker 1: I don't love that area of the I think it

654
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: drafts a little soft in those top eight ish or so. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Eight is jaylen Walker, Nine is Will Johnson, Ten is

656
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Speaker 3: Tyler Warren, Eleven is Will Campbell.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of landing spots for Warren between in

658
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Speaker 1: the top twenty. Yeah.

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00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 3: Twelve is Shamar Stewart, okay. Thirteen is Colston Loveland.

660
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: A lot of buzz about him before. Haven't talked about

661
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Speaker 1: him lately because Michigan go to the playoffs.

662
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Speaker 3: Fourteen is Calvin Banks Junior, the offensive tackle to Texas

663
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Speaker 3: mikel Williams at fifteen Josh Simmons, the offensive tackle from

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Speaker 3: Ohio State at sixteen, he's another medical Mike Green, the

665
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Speaker 3: outside linebacker from Marshall. Seventeen.

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Speaker 1: I bet he goes higher than that.

667
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Speaker 3: Eighteen is Luther Burden.

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Speaker 1: Okay. It read something about him today and I don't

669
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: know if it's true or not, but I guess him

670
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: and his coaching staff didn't exactly.

671
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 3: See ey'd eye this year, been throwing the ball this year,

672
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Speaker 3: and I.

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Speaker 1: Guess there's some effort issues on tape of not being

674
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 1: thrilled with his situation and that kind of adds up. Yeah.

675
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Speaker 3: Nineteen is Elijah Rojo all the way up at nineteen

676
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 3: three tight ends in a stop.

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Speaker 1: Nineteen Yeah, I mean he's a weapon. I mean he's

678
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Speaker 1: going to be like an Evan Ingram type. Yeah.

679
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 3: Malachi starts at twenty.

680
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Speaker 1: I'd probably have him higher. I wouldn't ding him for

681
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Speaker 1: being a safety.

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Speaker 3: Twenty one is Nick Emywori, Okay, pretty high. Twenty two

683
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 3: is Edgibah, Yeah, like Buka, I should say book Yeah.

684
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 3: Twenty three Tyler Booker, pure guard, yeah. Twenty four g

685
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Speaker 3: Hot Campbell.

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00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 1: Kay, you'd love a linebacker to go early. I don't

687
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: know if they will or not a true linebacker.

688
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 3: Twenty five Walter Nolan cool.

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Speaker 1: I don't have a lot of comments on that. I mean,

690
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Speaker 1: it's I keep hoping that Nolan doesn't get scooped up

691
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Speaker 1: in the top twenty. I mean, there's so much time

692
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Speaker 1: between now and then. But if you're the number two

693
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Speaker 1: d tackle with those traits, I just don't know that

694
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Speaker 1: that many teams can pass.

695
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 3: On somebody on the In the YouTube comments today, after

696
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Speaker 3: seeing our mark draft yesterday, said that.

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Speaker 1: Wed Nolan yesterday, right, yeah, yeah, how could.

698
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Speaker 3: You waste a pick on Nolan? The Steelers are just

699
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,719
Speaker 3: going to waste him like they did, like they've done

700
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Speaker 3: with Keanu Benton. I'm like, he's not a.

701
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Speaker 1: Nose And I don't think Keany Benton's been wasted either.

702
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 3: No, I don't believe he has either percent of the

703
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 3: snaps this year.

704
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: Like right, his role keeps growing and growing.

705
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Speaker 3: Oh, by the way, he was a second round pick

706
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 3: Walter Nolan. If you draft Walter Nolan. It's almost a

707
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Speaker 3: Cam Hayward type situation where probably plays some for you

708
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 3: this year, but he's going to play a lot now

709
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Speaker 3: in future years for you.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he might be your next Cam Ayward, your

711
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 1: next to it. I mean that's the goal here, right,

712
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 1: So you're trying to find that, right Yeah, yeah, I

713
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: don't think you just need He's also a very good

714
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Speaker 1: run stuffer. Yeah for an end. I mean for a

715
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Speaker 1: three to four n type guy, but he might be

716
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Speaker 1: in your top two on a nickel. Yeah.

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00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 3: This is a guy with fifty one tackles last year,

718
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 3: twelve and a half tackles for a lost, six and

719
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 3: a half sacks, seventeen pressures, fifteen what they call run stops. Okay,

720
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Speaker 3: I mean he is a.

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00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 1: Five star recruit with great trades. Yeah.

722
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he just gets after it.

723
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I have no problem ad a talent like that

724
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 1: at that position. Those type of players just don't grow

725
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 1: on trees. That's a hard player to find. Yeah, you know,

726
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,800
Speaker 1: six or five long arms and all that stuff. That

727
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,280
Speaker 1: can do what he can do, and he's pretty polished.

728
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 1: He's not like a rob piece of meat. They can't

729
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Speaker 1: do anything for it.

730
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Speaker 3: And the other thing I like about is the motor

731
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 3: goes like you can't. That's the one thing that you

732
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 3: can't coach on the big guys.

733
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Speaker 1: Yeah, like, and it's not uncommon. It doesn't take plays off,

734
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: the tackles take plays off, Jones take plays off, you know.

735
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 1: I mean the best guys take plays off. And some

736
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: of it's just conserving energy. Some of it's just I'm

737
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: bigger and stronger and everybody else I can. I know,

738
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: I can throw him anytime I want, and I will

739
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: when I feel like it, you know. Yeah, but just

740
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 1: know he plays hard.

741
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 3: This is a guy that goes hard all the time

742
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 3: and played a lot of snaps in all.

743
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Speaker 1: Miss Yeah, and he probably wouldn't as a rookie here,

744
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: but maybe, but he's capable. But yeah, right, he's he would.

745
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 3: It's not a projection like it was with with with

746
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 3: the the you know the two Georgia guys that came

747
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 3: out that are with the Eagles, now that they only

748
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 3: played twenty five snaps a game, right, Well, this guy's

749
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 3: played way more than that.

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Speaker 1: Way more than that. And the thing about Georgia, they

751
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: just have too many good right.

752
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 3: You know.

753
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Speaker 1: The three first round picks all in a rotation for

754
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: there for a while. Yeah, so no, I'm a fan,

755
00:35:58,760 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: big fan.

756
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 3: Those are mel Kiper rankings right now. Obviously those will

757
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 3: get adjusted as we continue to get through this and

758
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 3: he continues combin not that far away, not that far away,

759
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 3: less than three weeks now, So I can't wait to

760
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 3: get out there. But that's Mel's list. We're going to

761
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Speaker 3: get to a break. He is the Matt Williamson. I

762
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Speaker 3: am Dale Lully. This is the Drive on the Steelers

763
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Speaker 3: Audio Network, and of course you can hear the Drive

764
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Speaker 3: every Monday through Friday from four to six pm right

765
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Speaker 3: here in these very airwaves. You can also download the

766
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 3: Steelers mobile app get the show there, and if you

767
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 3: missed last.

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Speaker 1: Week's shows, yeah, there's the whole back list, check them out.

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Speaker 1: We're still on there, and of course you can also

770
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Speaker 1: start watching it on YouTube. But we didn't do any

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Speaker 1: shows on YouTube last week because well we're in two

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Speaker 1: different states. Yeah, that didn't help. That wasn't exactly the ideal.

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Speaker 3: But we're back on YouTube this week.

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Speaker 1: But like our Combine stuff, I think will be video.

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Speaker 1: We'll be video there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you can we'll be videoed promptly from here

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Speaker 3: on out. But let's get to a break. He's Matt.

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Speaker 3: I'm Dale. This is a drive on the Steelers Audio.

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Speaker 2: Networks, The Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 2: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

781
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,280
Speaker 2: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 3: You real and welcome back. I am Dale Lolly. He

783
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 3: is the Matt Williamson and Matt Andy Reid saying today

784
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 3: at the super Bowl. We haven't talked super Bowl at

785
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 3: all today. No, he's gonna be back at least one

786
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,479
Speaker 3: more season. Okay, he's getting up there in age.

787
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Speaker 1: He's getting up there in age, but he's also not

788
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:34,720
Speaker 1: that far from some milestones too, and you know, obviously

789
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 1: super Bowl wins, but like all time wins and things

790
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 1: like that too, they're in striking distance. I mean helps

791
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: when you win fifteen to seventeen to eighteen games a

792
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: year in Kansas City, you know, right, including playoffs.

793
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 3: Because he's got the best quarterback in the league.

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00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, that helps as well. Helps. But Sando's article this

795
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: week finished with that, like, I think if he at

796
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Speaker 1: his Kansas City pace, if he puts in I think

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00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: it's three more seasons at that pace, he'd be the

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00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,399
Speaker 1: all time winning as coach makes sense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you win a lot of games. Mason Crosby has retired. Retired, Yeah,

800
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 3: the Packers' all time leading scorer.

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00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 1: It's like seventeen years or something like that, too.

802
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,879
Speaker 3: Played a lot. Kirk Cousins, I guess, talking into Super

803
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 3: Bowl said arm injuries affected his play this year.

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Speaker 1: I saw that, and I think I kind of give

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00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 1: him the benefit of the doubt a little bit because

806
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 1: my co host on the podcast was tied by was

807
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: the first I heard it. Because when Cousins cited it,

808
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 1: from then on, it was bad. I mean like there

809
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 1: was almost a pretty not that he was great before it.

810
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: And I do think he's closer to being done than

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00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: he is an answer for somebody. But there was a

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00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: point where he cited he smashed up his arm pretty good,

813
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 1: that he didn't control the football at that point well

814
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: at all. But that doesn't help him move in the pocket. No,

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00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: that type of stuff right right, And you know, he said,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think I still have several good years

817
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 1: left in me. I mean, I'm kind of rooting for him.

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Speaker 1: I hope he does. Someone's just sign him to the

819
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: Wilson deal and we'll see. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I don't know Hollywood, Brown saying today

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Speaker 3: that he hasn't considered his future and won't until after

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Speaker 3: the Super Bowl. He's a free agent. He's gonna be

823
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 3: a free agent.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not really up to him. Yeah, I guess

825
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: it will be who he signs with. Right. I don't

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00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 1: know if the Chiefs will bring him back or not.

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00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: I guess they have him and Hopkins up. Yeah, and

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00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 1: Rice is kind of hard to deal with or hard

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Speaker 1: to count on.

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Speaker 3: You don't know what's the situation is there. We haven't

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Speaker 3: talked about the Raiders and Chip Kelly as their new

832
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 3: offensive coordinator right now. He's been a head coach twice

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00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 3: in the NFL. He hasn't done this.

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Speaker 1: He was OC for the Niners for one year, right, Yeah, poorly.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I think the Raiders are all of

836
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: a sudden a fascinating team, and they've been one of

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00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: the least fun teams to talk about for ten to fifteen,

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Speaker 1: twenty years. And I think there's definitely a Brady influence.

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Speaker 1: And I'm glad they brought back their defensive coordinator. And

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Speaker 1: Carol's super interesting and Kelly's interesting, and I think he

841
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: has come to the conclusion that you can't run at

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Speaker 1: warp speed.

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Speaker 3: And one hundred and ten plays a game at the

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Speaker 3: NFL level and nearly.

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Speaker 1: Fifty three on the roster, and you know, on five

846
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 1: stars everywhere. But he had the last we saw him

847
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: as an NFL play caller was a lot of college stuff.

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Speaker 1: And we just saw this with Seattle's offensive coordinator from

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00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:31,720
Speaker 1: Washington who they just let go. It's almost two different games.

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Speaker 1: You can't run college stuff on an NFL field with

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Speaker 1: NFL athletes. I don't know. I don't know how it's

852
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: gonna go. I know he's well respected. Yeah, we'll see.

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00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 3: I mean they're interesting, and I think a big disconnect

854
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 3: with the college guys to the NFL game. And I

855
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 3: mentioned this sometime in the route last week, is that

856
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 3: NFL defenses don't just play two or three defenses. Now

857
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 3: on the back end, they're so good this guys, there's

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00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,919
Speaker 3: play right, like all those plays, why why why can't

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00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 3: these guys scheme these things up like the college guys, Well,

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00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 3: they know they're getting cover two or Cover three? Yeah yeah, yeah,

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00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 3: nobody plays like an All Star game, yeah right yeah,

862
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 3: and the blitz packages and the protection, like I don't

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00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 3: know this as a fact, but I'm not far off.

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00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 3: Like my years at Pitt, we ran more of a

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Speaker 3: pro style offense than most because Walt Harris was the

866
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Speaker 3: offensive coordinator with the Jets and that, you know, that

867
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Speaker 3: was one of the allures is you're you're going from

868
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 3: Pitt to the NFL, is going to be easier for

869
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Speaker 3: you than other schools. I think we only had like

870
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 3: five protections where next door they had fifteen.

871
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, they've gotten that.

872
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 3: That's what they do.

873
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: That's a their job.

874
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 3: Job you get you get in the college kids for

875
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 3: a couple hours a day. You don't have time to

876
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 3: install and quite frankly, you're getting kids from this class

877
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 3: a school that quad eighty.

878
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 1: You don't know, all over the country. I mean, that's

879
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: not that's true. The NFL level two. But the offensive

880
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 1: line room had twenty five kids in it with walk

881
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 1: ons and you know, and where the Steelers had nine

882
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: during the regular season or ten, you know, well maybe

883
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: twelve with practice squad.

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00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 3: Now it is now right, even so they've they've done

885
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 3: a lot of this stuff.

886
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're thirty year olds with two kids at

887
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: home and ten million in the bank. It's their job,

888
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 1: it's their job, right, right, and you need to have

889
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 1: more protections. You Like, he used to do a podcast

890
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 1: with Ross Tucker and was hea going to college stuff.

891
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: One of the when he played for Washington, who's the

892
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: Spurrier was his coach, and he's like, he's a great dude,

893
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 1: but we've run like two protections and we run Florida

894
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: protections and we get destroyed because there's not answers to

895
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 1: some of the blitz stuff in the college protections.

896
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 3: Let alone Aaron Donald or something like that.

897
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 1: Absolutely else one dude, right right right, And he's like,

898
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 1: we just we did our jobs right and we'd have

899
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 1: free blitzers all the time like this that's art. Yeah.

900
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's a big problem with that. So we'll

901
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 3: see if Chip Kelly is uh yeah adjusted.

902
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's worth another shot. But I

903
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: don't think beating Ohio State's coordinators all that difficult.

904
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 3: No, I don't think so either. Like he's the one

905
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 3: guy's like bounced back and forth now.

906
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 1: That they're always good jobs in Oregon, they're Ohio State

907
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: their head jobs, you know, and he's respected he must

908
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 1: interview well.

909
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I think his relationship with Pete Carroll when

910
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 3: they were both head coaches.

911
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: Goes back ten stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so that

912
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Speaker 1: was part of it. I wonder if they'll be interested

913
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Speaker 1: in the Ohio State quarterback maybe or Abuca or I

914
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 1: mean I got an inside track on those Ohio State dude, right, yeah. Yeah.

915
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 3: Over the weekend there were more accusers for Justin Tucker.

916
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:52,919
Speaker 1: Yeah.

917
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 3: I think more and more coming out, right, And I

918
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 3: can't get past the feeling on this sin See, these

919
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 3: things are all like ten years old. Yeah, yeah, you're

920
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 3: telling me the Ravens didn't know anything about They had

921
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 3: no inkling whatsoever not on all this stuff until Special.

922
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: Teams coach or the ponder they might want to move.

923
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:12,240
Speaker 3: On from Justin Tucker. And now miraculously this stuff comes.

924
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 1: Out after his only bad year of his career. Seems

925
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:21,240
Speaker 1: a little convenient, convenient right right right with a shawsh

926
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: ank whenever he says, I find it rather inconvenient. Depends

927
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 1: what side you look at. Yeah, yeah, but it certainly

928
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: will make it easier to move on from him. And

929
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: I think they were going to move on from no

930
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: matter what.

931
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, would have been honestly, without this stuff, it would

932
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 3: have been difficult for.

933
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Speaker 1: Them to do that. It would it would have. I mean,

934
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Speaker 1: he's a legend. Yeah, that's an all time great. I

935
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 1: mean maybe the Steelers someday will have that with Boswall,

936
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: Like he's so good you can't just cut him. He's

937
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 1: the best kicker in the league for a long thretch.

938
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 3: Mason Crosby, Yeah, yeahah.

939
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: And eventually they father right right. You know, it's undefeated,

940
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: you know.

941
00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 3: You know, Vinettieri switched teams in his early thirties and.

942
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: They made life easier on him too. I mean, I

943
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: know he's a hot button topic around here because the

944
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame stuff, but he didn't have to kick

945
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 1: off at the end.

946
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 3: That voting takes place this weekend.

947
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: Oh that's this weekend.

948
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 3: If he gets in, I think my head is going

949
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 3: to spin.

950
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 1: I know, and I don't blame you, but I think

951
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 1: he's gonna I mean, I forgot that's coming up.

952
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, if he gets in, then we just opened the

953
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 3: door for twelve other kickers who have been better than him,

954
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 3: Steven Goskowski who kicked it to replace them for the

955
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 3: same team the same amount of time in New England,

956
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 3: the Vinettieri was there, and he had way better stats

957
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:31,240
Speaker 3: than Vinetieri.

958
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: Our boy Chris Boswell is looking at it going. I

959
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: hope he gets in though, because my resume was all

960
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:37,320
Speaker 1: said and done, might better than is.

961
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Speaker 3: Again, I have no problem with those guys getting into

962
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame. I have a problem when those

963
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 3: guys getting in over real football players. And that's my problem.

964
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 1: Tucker is my only one that I think is I

965
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: would definitely just check the box.

966
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Speaker 3: Well, this may change all that.

967
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Speaker 1: I don't think football matters.

968
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 3: We'll find out about that this year because in the

969
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 3: rules there is a there's a gentleman and I'm not

970
00:45:58,120 --> 00:45:59,760
Speaker 3: going to name any names, but there is a gentleman

971
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 3: up for the Hall of Fame this year who basically

972
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 3: murdered his wife back in the seventies. Ye yeah, and

973
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 3: he has never gotten in because of that.

974
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 1: And well they say in the rules off the field

975
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,879
Speaker 1: doesn't matter for football, but it's still a human people

976
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 1: will know, you know, right right right, Yeah, you know it's.

977
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Speaker 3: It's Terrell Owens argument. Yeah, he didn't get him right

978
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 3: away because well, you know, he did some crazy stuff

979
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 3: off the field.

980
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 1: Only anybody was rooting for him, right, yeah, exactly. It's

981
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Speaker 1: another bigger topic. But I also think it helps, like

982
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 1: the t O's of the world. When you go from

983
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 1: team to team, to teams to team, you know who's

984
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 1: who's staying on the table for you. That was a

985
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: Niners guy introducing them, but yeah, probably didn't have great

986
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: memories of them at the end, Yeah for sure.

987
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Speaker 3: Anyways, that's going to do it for today's show. So

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Speaker 3: for my partner Matt Williamson, for Justin Miller here on

989
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Speaker 3: site running the soundboard, and well we didn't use the

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Speaker 3: Justin Miller hotline.

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Speaker 1: Today but will tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Will tomorrow. And for Tyler Viittmer making sure our video

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Speaker 3: gets out there on YouTube. Check that out there, can

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Speaker 3: leave us comments and tell us how dumb we are.

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Speaker 3: I'm Dale Lollie. We thank you for listening to this

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Speaker 3: edition of The Drive on the Steelers Audio Network.