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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody. Welcome to the channel, Welcome to the podcast.

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Speaker 1: I've been wanting to do this episode for a long time.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know if it was actually going to happen.

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Speaker 1: And I want to do something on this podcast and

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Speaker 1: i'll show you a little bit later that I've never

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Speaker 1: done on any of my channels. And in a way,

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Speaker 1: it's a bit risky. Some of you might get offended.

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Speaker 1: My hope is that all of you stay for the

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Speaker 1: whole thing, and that all of you are receptive to

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Speaker 1: what I'm going to talk about. So bear with me.

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Speaker 1: I know that's quite the intro I have with me today.

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Speaker 1: A good friend, a such a genuine guy. This is

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Speaker 1: the senior pastor to Celebration Church, which has several campuses

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Speaker 1: in the Austin, Texas metroplex, and there's one in Italy

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Speaker 1: and one in Africa's online and he's changed lives all

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Speaker 1: across the world. I'm lucky to have him today. His

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Speaker 1: name is Joe Champion. We met a terrible, terrible way

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Speaker 1: that we met at my son's funeral. That's the first

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Speaker 1: time I met Joe and the first time I saw

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Speaker 1: his heart. Since then, we have become friends and you

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Speaker 1: could see me on Sunday mornings on the front row

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Speaker 1: of his congregation. I respect him his knowledge as a pastor,

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Speaker 1: I respect his wisdom, and you can't punch holes in

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Speaker 1: this guy. It's good to get the guy as solid

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Speaker 1: and I think he's the perfect candidate to come sit

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Speaker 1: here with me on this podcast and go through some

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Speaker 1: life questions. And the guy has quite the rest. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he grew up son of a football coach. He is

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Speaker 1: one of three brothers, just like me. His other two

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Speaker 1: is the black sheep of the family, if that term

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Speaker 1: such an energy to him, such a the an ability

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Speaker 1: as a football coach, you could see how he fit

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Speaker 1: And I've led you into this, this curiosity of what

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Speaker 1: we're going to talk about. And I've led you into

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Speaker 1: me saying this is going to be something I've never done,

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Speaker 1: and it might offend some of you. Hopefully you're curious.

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Speaker 1: I want you to be curious. That's what I said it,

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Speaker 1: and that's why I'm trying to clickbait you into listening,

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Speaker 1: because I want you to go all the way to

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Speaker 1: the end to hear what I have in store without

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Speaker 1: further ado Welcome to the podcast. Yee mon Tis and

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Speaker 1: long Line. I'm fool up and down go back Rangeyation.

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Speaker 1: So you're cruising down I thirty five seventy miles an

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Speaker 1: I've been looking forward to this day. I didn't know

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Speaker 1: your story on the church that I just explained on

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Speaker 1: you heard this, Parker? The story? Okay? Great, at least

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Speaker 1: came from. Yeah, well, my dad was an NFL football

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Speaker 1: I said, you did, like in a vision, like that's

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Speaker 1: just part of I think in any world that in

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Speaker 1: any man or any woman, or any organization that gets

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Speaker 1: some level of success and some momentum, you're always going

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Speaker 1: to have the haters that are just going to come

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Speaker 1: sure you've already heard it. Well member back in the day, sure, Granger.

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Speaker 1: Now you're the big boy, and I don't know. And

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Speaker 1: with the new people we meet, we hear all the

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Speaker 1: time people say, Man, I just I just didn't know

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Speaker 1: you'd be like normal guy? Right, What do you mean?

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Speaker 1: What do you mean you didn think I'd be a

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Speaker 1: normal guy. I just thought you'd be you know. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: being fake takes more energy than being real. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: hard to be fake. It's hard to put on their

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Speaker 1: not be real. Being real is a lot easier than

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Speaker 1: being being fake. I can't do fake because I'm from Louisiana.

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Speaker 1: We have nothing to be proud about except food. Our food,

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Speaker 1: and it's good. Most of the shows on you know,

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Speaker 1: most of the reality shows are Louisiana motivated. They're Louisiana

455
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Speaker 1: based because we're weird. We're just Louisiana listeners. My people,

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Speaker 1: I'm from Dynasty. Now that we know you're real, let's

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Speaker 1: answer some of their questions. You want to do that, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I love to. We'll take a quick break and do that.

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Speaker 1: coming in. I made a folder called God Questions, and

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Speaker 1: Hey Granger, it's Jenny in England. I love you and

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Speaker 1: your family so much. There's something I'm battling with and

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Speaker 1: I would love your help. I know you're a man

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Speaker 1: of God and I want to know about your relationship

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Speaker 1: with Him. I lost my mom at a young age,

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Speaker 1: and a bad marriage. She couldn't get that through her

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Speaker 1: prayer for many years, even though I prayed for her

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Speaker 1: as well. It has now been ten years since she passed,

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Speaker 1: put her through. I'm thirty five with my own life

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Speaker 1: and family, but I can also not forgive God and

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Speaker 1: Jesus for all that my mom had to go through

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Speaker 1: before she passed. I'm wondering, how is it possible for

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Speaker 1: that I have seen. I really want to believe, but

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Speaker 1: at this moment, I'm finding it impossible. I know you've

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Speaker 1: experienced a significant loss in your life. I just want

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Speaker 1: to know how do you go how do you go on?

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Speaker 1: How do you move forward and ignore all the bad things? Jenny? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And of course I'll brace your heart to hear that

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Speaker 1: and to know that kind of pain is in the world, Yes,

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Speaker 1: and it's all over the world. I know it is,

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Speaker 1: and Jenny's is very specific because it's her pain, but

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Speaker 1: then it's also a common problem. Yes, around the world.

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Speaker 1: It's it's all over the world, but it's still her

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Speaker 1: pain and it's personal. It's what Jesus said about this world.

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Speaker 1: In this world, you will have pain. No one was

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Speaker 1: this world. This world is a it's not a riddle.

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Speaker 1: Let me say to Jenny, the world is not a riddle.

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Speaker 1: It's a war. And Jesus, as God in flesh, when

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Speaker 1: not And nor is he the gesture like he's sitting

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Speaker 1: up in some booth or with God, the Father, God,

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Speaker 1: the Son, God, the Holy Spirit, and they are throwing

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Speaker 1: riddles at people and jesting with people and messing around

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Speaker 1: with people. And oh, try this, and let me show you.

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Speaker 1: Think you know what pain is, experience this problem or

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Speaker 1: have this affair, and it doesn't work like that. We're

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Speaker 1: in a We're in a fallen world. It is filled

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Speaker 1: with pain, it is filled with tragedy. This is why

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Speaker 1: we need a savior. This is why Christ suffered this

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Speaker 1: is what he came to give us was the hope

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Speaker 1: of good news. I say it like this, Before there

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Speaker 1: is the hope of good news, or even the preaching

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Speaker 1: of good news, there had to somebody has to make

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Speaker 1: the news to preach. Christ first made the gospel. Before

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Speaker 1: there was a gospel. There is no gospel except first

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Speaker 1: Christ made the gospel, which is I have overcome the world. Well,

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Speaker 1: what world is he talking about? Overcoming pain? Death? He

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Speaker 1: keeps quoting John sixteen thirty three. In case you're wondering biblically,

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Speaker 1: And that thought is that it is paramount in why

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Speaker 1: Scottish theologian was asked about pain and this was written

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Speaker 1: in nineteen eighteen during World War One where millions of

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Speaker 1: people it changed the world that war, and most people

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Speaker 1: died by disease, you know, and infection and dysentery and

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Speaker 1: all that. And they said, this war is unsettling the

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Speaker 1: faith of people in God, in a Father who is God,

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Speaker 1: and a kingdom. It is taking the faith of people away.

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Speaker 1: And he goes, Nay, he says, it's actually the opposite.

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Speaker 1: I would be more disquieted in my soul if there

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Speaker 1: wasn't a catastrophe based on the europe that we are

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Speaker 1: in the form of walking away from God. He said,

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Speaker 1: because of our choices, because of the world's choices. That

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Speaker 1: is why we have catastrophic event. That's why we're having tragedy.

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Speaker 1: That's why we have sickness and disease. This wasn't made.

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Speaker 1: This world was not made to have this, but because

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Speaker 1: of sin, it entered into the world. Sickness entered into

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Speaker 1: the world. Death entered into the world, infidelity and adultery

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Speaker 1: He goes, I would be more upset if this world

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Speaker 1: was perfect without God, then there would be no need

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Speaker 1: for a savior. There would be no God. Yeah. So

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Speaker 1: the actually, he says, this is just the sign that

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Speaker 1: we need a savior. This to me is actually encouraging

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Speaker 1: that there is pain. Yeah, and it never gets better.

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Speaker 1: Decades go by, centuries go by, and suffering doesn't decrease.

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Speaker 1: We don't find a way to overcome it any better

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Speaker 1: than we ever did thousands of years ago, even with

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Speaker 1: our technology. This is my thought about evolution, and of

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Speaker 1: course there's a lot of debate about it, but I

641
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 1: don't understand if evolution was true, why are we not

642
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:59,240
Speaker 1: evolving into a better species. Why are we not kinder?

643
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: Why why are we not more unified? Why is there racism?

644
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 1: Why is there more racism? Why are there why are

645
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Speaker 1: there more bombs? Why is there more uh? Bloodshed? Because

646
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 1: man has a unique way of taking even technology and

647
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 1: turning it into something worse Like that's just the sign

648
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Speaker 1: that wherever sin is and sins in the world, and

649
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 1: it's in our heart, and that's what Christ came to do,

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Speaker 1: to take it out, to forgive us of it. A

651
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Speaker 1: little sin leavens the whole lump. It just, it's just.

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Speaker 1: And so to say to Jenny man it is. It

653
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 1: is heartbreaking. But the good news is that this will

654
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: not last forever because we have been There's three things

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Speaker 1: that Jesus came to do on the cross for us,

656
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 1: and I put it in a rhyming way. He came

657
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Speaker 1: to claim, he came to reframe, and he came to rename, reclaim, reframe,

658
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 1: and rename us. So he he claims us, We're not alone,

659
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: you're not by yourself, You're not without a father. Number

660
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Speaker 1: two he comes to reframe us, He changes our constitution,

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Speaker 1: he makes us new. Behold, all things become new in

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Speaker 1: his name. But then he names us like you are

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Speaker 1: my child, you're you're my daughter, You're my family. And

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Speaker 1: we all want a place called home. And that's what

665
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: Christ offers us. He is our home, and that home

666
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: has been secure. And he goes, Guys, I'm telling you

667
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: this is real. I would tell you if it wasn't.

668
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Speaker 1: And he goes, in my father's house, are many mansions,

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Speaker 1: are many rooms, Be not troubled. Believe in God, Believe

670
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Speaker 1: also in me. When he said that, believe in God,

671
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 1: Believe also in me. Believe everything I've been telling you.

672
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 1: This is real. And then of course he proved it

673
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 1: by being raised from the dead. So pain, I would

674
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: love for us to say we have enough faith to

675
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: pain our or to faith our pain away never never, never.

676
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 1: It's a misconception to think if I pray hard enough

677
00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: that in my lifetime all this will just go away, right,

678
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Speaker 1: And and that's kind of what Jenny's saying with She's

679
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 1: she's mad that her mother prayed, She watched her mother

680
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 1: pray so hard for for the peace in her lifetime,

681
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Speaker 1: and and she witnessed that her mother never got it. Yeah,

682
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: and her time on earth. Yeah, and if and of

683
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: course it comes back to us personally, We've got to

684
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Speaker 1: We've got to own what is the door or the key,

685
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: and that is forgiveness, because when it does come down

686
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 1: to it, we're gonna have to We're gonna have to forgive.

687
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Speaker 1: She's gonna she's gonna have to forgive her father, she's

688
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 1: gonna have to forgive God. She's gonna have to to

689
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Speaker 1: forgive those that have hurt her, like we all do

690
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Speaker 1: every day. We all could be offended every day, we

691
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: could all be hurt, and we are every day. I

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00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 1: have a reason to say to Laurie, my wife, after

693
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Speaker 1: thirty years, and you don't love me like you should

694
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Speaker 1: or you know, I want more of this so that

695
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: I have to make a decision. You know what, As

696
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Speaker 1: Jesus said, unforgiveness puts me in prison, it does imprison them. Yeah,

697
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Speaker 1: And I have to just continue to trust in what

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Speaker 1: he said. And as bad as it is, the day

699
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Speaker 1: my dad died was the day that I gave my

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Speaker 1: life to Christ. Through death became my doorway to the

701
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Speaker 1: reality that God is real. It should have been the

702
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Speaker 1: worst day of my life. It actually became the best

703
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Speaker 1: day of my life because I believed in what Jesus

704
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Speaker 1: said in his word. It's amazing how that happens. And Jenny,

705
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Speaker 1: you say here, it's been ten year years since you

706
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Speaker 1: passed and unable to forgive my dad. I'm thirty five

707
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Speaker 1: with my own life and family. So right there, I'll

708
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 1: stop you right there and say, look at the blessings

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Speaker 1: that you've had now thirty five with your own life

710
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: and family. And I don't want you to skip over that,

711
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 1: to glaze over the fact that here you are and

712
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: you're thinking back to another time when you're missing the

713
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 1: moment that you're in. That could be the very very

714
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Speaker 1: blessing that God has given you today right now, in

715
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Speaker 1: this moment. Very good. It's tough that the forgiving God

716
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 1: question comes up a lot, a lot, and I think

717
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Speaker 1: the first step is gratefulness in the today, right now,

718
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Speaker 1: in this moment that's right, and taking this moment, taking

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Speaker 1: this day and choose ye this day. Do you believe

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Speaker 1: that that God is good? Or do you believe that?

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Speaker 1: First of all, do you believe in believe in God?

722
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 1: And number two, do you believe He's or if he's bad.

723
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Speaker 1: And it really does come down to a trust. You know,

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Speaker 1: Christianity is not the work of sacrifice. It's trusting in

725
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Speaker 1: the one who sacrifices for us. A lot of people think, Okay,

726
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 1: when you're a Christian, you just have it's just a

727
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 1: sacrificial life. I gotta sacrifice this. I No, it's putting

728
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Speaker 1: your trust in the one who did the sacrificing for us.

729
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 1: It's not getting or attempting to get victorious. It's you

730
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 1: have the victory. The victory has been purchased. It's done,

731
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Speaker 1: it's finished. Christ said on the Cross, it's done for you.

732
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: I've forgiven you, I've forgiven the world, and he came

733
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Speaker 1: for this reason to offer this good news. It's done,

734
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Speaker 1: it's finished, it's yours, and it's frankly, just a it's

735
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: a whisper, it's a thought away. You know. We can

736
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: call it prayer, but prayer can be a whisper, it

737
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 1: can be a thought, it can be a gesture. And

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Speaker 1: he is good despite boy everything that we would attempt

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00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 1: to say, He's not. In the midst of death, in

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Speaker 1: the midst of our pain, in the midst of a

741
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 1: crazy world gone wild. You know before there was Girls

742
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 1: Gone Wild, there was a World Gone Wild. Now I've

743
00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: never seen that show, but I live it. Yeah, World

744
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: Going Wild. Jitdy, we we're thinking about you today and

745
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: thank you so much for writing in. And I hope

746
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Speaker 1: that you could be grateful today right now, in this moment,

747
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 1: with your family and your life. So sorry, we're all

748
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 1: going to have suffering. It doesn't make it any easier

749
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 1: to say that, but that's just the reality. Let's go

750
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Speaker 1: to Let's go to another one here past to Joe.

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00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 1: Here's one with the subject living and working in faith,

752
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 1: says Hey, my name is Scott. I live in Green Bay, Wisconsin.

753
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 1: Shout out to Green Bay. It's difficult to live and

754
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 1: work in faith, especially in my career field. I currently

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Speaker 1: work as a correctional officer in the intake or booking

756
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 1: section of a large county jail, which means I'm one

757
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: of the first faces they see when they're arrested. We

758
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 1: have our share of frequent flyers, so it's no surprise

759
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: for them or us when they show up. We do

760
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 1: have the individuals who have never been to jail or

761
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 1: have charges that are shocking in nature. The latter is

762
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: the most difficult ones to process simply because their charges

763
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 1: make them less desirable humans and very hard to deal with.

764
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Speaker 1: It's difficult to treat the individuals the same as someone else.

765
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 1: You can't have your feelings affect your interactions. The level

766
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 1: is high for alcoholism and divorce in this career field

767
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 1: because many have very poor coping mechanisms, and when you

768
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 1: need to rely on your faith to get you through

769
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 1: the day. It's very hard in this career to keep

770
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: the mindset when it comes to people and changes who

771
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:48,399
Speaker 1: you see like this in person, so when it gets

772
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 1: dangerous and when you change but don't realize the change.

773
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: I feel like being a musician, you could express your

774
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: faith through song, but with my career you could express

775
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 1: your faith through how you talk and interact with an

776
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: individual and reserving your judgment for their wrongdoings, no matter

777
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 1: how difficult it may be. How could I be better

778
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 1: at this? Scott? Yeah, I would first of all shout out,

779
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 1: as you said, the Green Bay my dad coach for

780
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 1: the packers. Part of your problem is you live in

781
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: a early cold cold. It's cold, it's it's hard for

782
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 1: anybody's faith in the tundra. But when you're dealing with

783
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:31,800
Speaker 1: people like he is, and we do every week prison ministry.

784
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: We're in nine locations, nine prisons, some federal, some county

785
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 1: here in Texas, where we bring our church to a

786
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: whole team of people set up church. And it's something

787
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 1: that I say every week, especially for those that are

788
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: watching within one of the nine correctional facilities, as God

789
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 1: didn't give up on us, he doesn't give up on you,

790
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 1: and that sometimes those that are insider prison are more

791
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 1: free than those outside of prison. It's just a different bar,

792
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: it's a different wall. And I say that on purpose

793
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 1: every week, as you've heard me say it, because I

794
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 1: want those that are sitting in that seat to never

795
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: become so skeptical of people. Which the longer you live

796
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: in life, the longer you're in parole or officer work,

797
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 1: or especially jail work, prison reform or prison work, I

798
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:34,760
Speaker 1: get it, we work. I've been the chaplain of various

799
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Speaker 1: police departments Austin and Georgetown, and when you're dealing with

800
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: police officers like he is, and dealing with criminals every week,

801
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 1: and the same ones over and over, it's very it's

802
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 1: very likely that you're going to get jaded, You're going

803
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 1: to get hard. And I see it. In ministry. I

804
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: deal with people who week in week out, promise this,

805
00:47:56,280 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 1: promise that, and go back to their old life, come back,

806
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 1: and then go back. And Jesus made a statement he says,

807
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 1: be harmless as a dove, wisest serpents and harmless as

808
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 1: a dove. And I've always taken that to mean when

809
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,879
Speaker 1: you're dealing with people, you do have to have your

810
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 1: eyes wide open. Back in the early day, when I

811
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 1: was first a Christian or even especially as a pastor man,

812
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 1: I believed every story. I believed everybody. I would go

813
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: to any situation or any length to help that person.

814
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: The podcast, Yeah, I would show up and go God

815
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 1: of Cars, I'll be out there in the harvey. And

816
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 1: then I get out here and it's all this is yo.

817
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: Yo said ye no no, and I would. I had

818
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 1: to learn through trials and UH and through being taken

819
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 1: advantage of Joe. You don't. Faith doesn't say you're faith

820
00:48:55,560 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 1: in Christ. Faith does not close your eyes and just

821
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 1: you know, do this or go here. Faith is very wise,

822
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 1: and I think the more faith you have, the more

823
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 1: wise you becoming. Yeah, you can spot people a mile away,

824
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 1: especially if you're in police work. You better, You better

825
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 1: know those that you're walking with, and you're going to

826
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 1: see those same criminals. And so there is this wisdom

827
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 1: that you've got to be able to be business. I mean,

828
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Speaker 1: he is he's hired to do the business of police

829
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Speaker 1: work or prison work. But then that's harmless as a dove.

830
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 1: In other words, what he's saying is stay sweet, stay kind,

831
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Speaker 1: because I was sweet to you everything. Jesus always came

832
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Speaker 1: back to say, was I forgave you. You're gonna have

833
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 1: to forgive them. You are a cheater, and therefore I

834
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 1: forgave you of your cheating. Therefore forgive those that have

835
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 1: cheated or those that will cheat you. Every time Jesus

836
00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 1: came back and he said, listen, what did I do

837
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: for you? How could you have a higher standard of

838
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: other people than you do of yourself. So that balance

839
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Speaker 1: of being wise, being smart, being sharp, being good at

840
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Speaker 1: what you do, being business. As a pastor, I have

841
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 1: to deal with people sometimes I said, I would love

842
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Speaker 1: to tell you my own inclination or my own desire

843
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 1: would be to say this, But I can't say that,

844
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:28,720
Speaker 1: because that's not what the truth is. The truth doesn't

845
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,879
Speaker 1: say that I'd love to be able to say, hey,

846
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Speaker 1: you can go and have this and do that and

847
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Speaker 1: you're all good. Everybody's just be happy and there'll be

848
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: no consequences. I can't. I'm just gonna tell you there's

849
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of pain with that, so I

850
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Speaker 1: have to come back and bring the business side. Jesus

851
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: was full of grace and he was also full of truth.

852
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 1: And that's that hard walk. How do you stay gracious

853
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: to people but true? And that was the beauty of Jesus.

854
00:50:58,120 --> 00:50:59,839
Speaker 1: When they said, John, what was Jesus like? He goes

855
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:04,320
Speaker 1: It was amazing. This guy was the nicest, kindest, loving,

856
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 1: forgiving person you would ever want to meet. But he

857
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 1: was true, like he'd knock your head off if you

858
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: did wrong. And I say that proverbally. He would correct you,

859
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 1: he would pierce you. He didn't let you get by

860
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:25,479
Speaker 1: with anything. And isn't that as a parent or right?

861
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 1: That's we're trying to walk that same line, like I

862
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 1: want my kids to love me. We have three boys,

863
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 1: they're twenty eight, twenty four, and twenty and we have

864
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:38,839
Speaker 1: a great relationship as now they're men, and I try

865
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 1: to be gracious and kind and loving like a father

866
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 1: supposed to be. But at the same time, I'm not

867
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 1: gonna let them get away with Like the other day, Jackson.

868
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,399
Speaker 1: I was watching my youngest son. He's home for Christmas break,

869
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 1: and he's just waist Jackson. Yeah, Jackson. He loves all

870
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 1: things yee and you and the family here. And I

871
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 1: watched Jackson way all day long. He's playing xboxes, he's

872
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 1: home from college. And then his mom asked him to

873
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 1: do one little thing. He goes, I don't have time

874
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,320
Speaker 1: for that. I went, whoa time out? Time out of

875
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 1: time out? I said, let me just let's talk about

876
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you don't have time for your mom.

877
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 1: Now you hope she has time to buy you a

878
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 1: set of golf clubs for Christmas that are going to

879
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 1: be pretty expensive. But you don't have time to do

880
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 1: this one thing like hey, or you're home from college.

881
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,359
Speaker 1: You live on your own. You got your own dorm room,

882
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 1: but this is not your dorm room. I need those

883
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 1: shoes picked up. You're not going to just live like

884
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 1: you do, yeah, on your own. So oh, wait a minute, dad,

885
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,439
Speaker 1: I thought I was home for break and no, yeah

886
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 1: you are. But I told him, I said, act like

887
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: you don't live here anymore. Pick up your junk. So

888
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 1: it's a god is like that, and I think you

889
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 1: have to deal with people like that. It's funny you

890
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 1: you brought that up because I kind of thought my

891
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 1: mind went to my kids, because I can't relate to you.

892
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: Scott in your job, can imagine how difficult it must

893
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 1: be dealing with these people. You're looking them in the

894
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 1: eye and you know probably what they did. It was

895
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 1: a terrible thing, and you want to just knock their

896
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 1: head off. But it's I thought about my kids. It's

897
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 1: the closest thing I think of is when they do

898
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:19,879
Speaker 1: something wrong, I do my best discipline if I take

899
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 1: a breath, collect myself and keep anger out of it,

900
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 1: keep keep my hostility out of it as a as

901
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 1: a father, and look at it as the correctional side.

902
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:40,280
Speaker 1: Only use the wisdom and correct them calmly, collectively and decisively,

903
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 1: and not an anger or retaliation like you might want

904
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 1: to do when you see one of these guys. And

905
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 1: I'm sorry if that's the closest relationship I can get

906
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 1: to you, Scott is disciplining some young children, and you're

907
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 1: looking at these hardened criminals. But I believe if you

908
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: could take your anger as Pastor Joe said, Jesus would

909
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 1: have done. Take the emotion and the anger and the hostility,

910
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 1: not that Jesus had that, yeah, but take it out

911
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:10,439
Speaker 1: as your human self, yeah, and do the job. Yeah.

912
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:13,919
Speaker 1: Jesus was the same guy as we know, who loved

913
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 1: the world. But he also made a whip, and he

914
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 1: made a whip, and he drove out the money changers

915
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 1: and overturned tables in the temple. But what's interesting is

916
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 1: he made a whip. So he walks in and he

917
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 1: sees what's going on. People were not able to worship

918
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 1: God and connect to God because they were charging people

919
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 1: and for their sacrifice and for their offerings and a

920
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: rate that the average person couldn't worship God with it

921
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 1: back as it was in that day. But he goes, guys,

922
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 1: if I'm finished, if i'm if I start making a whip,

923
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 1: and if you're doing what you're doing now, by the

924
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 1: time I'm finished with this whip, y'all are gonna get whipped.

925
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:58,840
Speaker 1: He made a whip. So in other words, what he

926
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 1: was saying is I'm in control. So in just about

927
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:05,919
Speaker 1: five minutes, you might say, oh, look at that guy,

928
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 1: he's out of control. He's whipping people. He's overturning David.

929
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 1: What kind of god is this? He would never do that.

930
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 1: He's a loving god. Guys, I just want you to

931
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 1: know I'm in complete control. And he starts braiding this

932
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:20,319
Speaker 1: whip and guess what they were still doing it when

933
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 1: he was finished making the whip. And now judgment kicks in.

934
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 1: Now discipline kicksin. I tell people in life, and it's

935
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 1: like this, in every facet, we're free to roll on

936
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:38,439
Speaker 1: the rails. A train is free to roll as long

937
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 1: as it's on the rails. Get off the rails. There's

938
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 1: gonna be discipline. Guy breaks the rules, there's gonna be disciplined,

939
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 1: There's gonna be punishment. But stay on the rails. And

940
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 1: I would say to especially people that deal with people

941
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:56,760
Speaker 1: as intimate a setting as he does in especially police work.

942
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 1: And I would say even to those that my be

943
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 1: pastors and those that might be leaders in their church.

944
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 1: We have a bunch of pastors to this, boy, can

945
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 1: it get to where you don't like people anymore? And

946
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 1: that's where you always got to come back to faith?

947
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 1: And it's not faith in faith. I don't have faith

948
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: in a thing. I don't have faith in a system.

949
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 1: I don't have faith in a theology. I don't have

950
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 1: faith in a concept. I have faith in Christ, and

951
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 1: I have this relationship to this man Christ, Jesus, who

952
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 1: was of course God, and he's inside of me, and

953
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 1: my faith that faith makes me connect back to him. Okay,

954
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:37,840
Speaker 1: you're here, Lord, you're here. How have you handled me?

955
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:40,879
Speaker 1: I want to handle people the same way that you've

956
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 1: handled me. And even as a father, I look back

957
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 1: and go, where were my dad's best moments? And I

958
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 1: try to emulate those best moments. And then I have

959
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:53,840
Speaker 1: some moments that my dad wasn't so successful, Like we

960
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 1: all have our failures, and I don't want to I

961
00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:59,280
Speaker 1: don't want to emulate that. I don't want to drop

962
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 1: the ball in certain ways when it comes to our

963
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 1: handling of people. But I would say in a big picture,

964
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 1: when it comes down to it, boy, you can mess

965
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 1: up in a lot of ways. But I have always said,

966
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 1: the fastest way to get off of our team, the

967
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 1: fastest way to be fired. At celebration, we have a

968
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 1: staff of one hundred and twenty five people. The fastest

969
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 1: way to be fired is be mean to people. I

970
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 1: can work with you on other areas, we'll talk through

971
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 1: some things. But boy, you're mean to people in the story.

972
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 1: It's just and that's got to be Scott. That's got

973
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 1: to be your thing is how do you balance doing

974
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 1: your job and being mean because you don't necessarily have

975
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 1: to be mean to do what you do. No, I

976
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 1: hope that helps you. Thank you for your service, Scott.

977
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 1: We we need find gentlemen like you out there. I'm

978
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 1: gonna take a quick break. I'm goingna come back and

979
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 1: do something that I've never done on this podcast, and

980
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 1: I've been thinking I should probably do it. I'll be

981
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 1: right back. I thought I was gonna I was gonna

982
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 1: try to get to a bunch questions, but you your

983
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 1: answers are too good. So we'll have to do this

984
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 1: again one day. Hey, God, willing in your schedule if

985
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 1: it's flexible enough, you figure out something. I want to

986
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 1: do something that these these listeners are from all over

987
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 1: the world, all different walks of life. Some of them

988
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 1: are from different religions, and some of them have no religions.

989
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 1: Some of them are atheists. And I know this from

990
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 1: questions and from social media interactions. What is this, Tyler?

991
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 1: When does this podcast fall under category? Is it music.

992
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 1: This is a music categorized podcast, and I want to

993
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 1: do something here. And I'm no surprise Pastor Joe because

994
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 1: this is right up his wheelhouse. But when I have

995
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 1: him here, Jesus said that if you don't acknowledge me

996
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 1: in public, and I have no reason to acknowledge you

997
00:58:56,240 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 1: to the Father in public, right, And so I want

998
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 1: to I want to offer you to give these people

999
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 1: a prayer, an invitation to Christ. There's probably a lot

1000
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 1: of people that think it's very complicated and it takes

1001
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 1: a long time, but it doesn't. No, you could do

1002
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 1: it in three minutes. Absolutely, Billy Graham did it in

1003
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 1: three minutes every night. It's very simple. It becomes extremely complex,

1004
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 1: but it starts very simple. And I would like to

1005
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 1: offer up a moment of prayer with Pastor Joe. And

1006
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 1: before we do it, I want to give anybody an

1007
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 1: opportunity to hit the exit door on this podcast if

1008
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 1: they're thinking this is too much. This is I sign

1009
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 1: up for music and I'm gonna go ahead. So I'm

1010
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna give you a heads up so I

1011
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 1: don't surprise you. But those that are curious and want

1012
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 1: to hang out with us in this room. Right now.

1013
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 1: We'll end the podcast with this, so hang out, but

1014
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 1: I'm also giving you the exit door is open. This

1015
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 1: is going to be a an invitation to know Christ personally,

1016
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 1: the Prince of peace in a world of suffering, and

1017
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 1: he is. And before we do, I'll say this, most people,

1018
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 1: if they knew the true God, if they really knew

1019
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 1: who God was, and he came. The Bible says Christ

1020
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 1: explained God, he revealed God, he broke the mystery, if

1021
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 1: you will, He ended the question who is God? And

1022
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 1: Jesus came to express or to manifest Paul the apostle

1023
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 1: maybe one of the most religious people in all the

1024
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 1: world at that time, most learned. The dude was the man.

1025
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 1: And when he had that encounter on that road to

1026
01:00:57,560 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 1: Damascus and Acts nine, he goes, who are you? Who

1027
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 1: are you? God? Like God? What's your name? And of

1028
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 1: course Paul was the most learned religious man on the

1029
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 1: planet probably, and he was a rising star. I mean,

1030
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 1: he was the number one pick in church world, if

1031
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 1: you will, and he goes, I am Jesus whom you

1032
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 1: are persecuting. I think that's what rocked Paul's world more

1033
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 1: than anything else, was when he realized, whoa, I've been fighting.

1034
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 1: I've been thinking, I've been fighting for God, and I've

1035
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 1: been actually fighting against God because he was persecuting the church,

1036
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:38,480
Speaker 1: killing Christians anyway, killing Christians, Yes, killing Christians, and not

1037
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 1: just that. Worse than that. Before he'd kill him, he

1038
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 1: said this, I caused them to blaspheme. So, in other words,

1039
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 1: before I killed him, I asked, in fact, I got

1040
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 1: them to deny Christ. So what are you saying is

1041
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 1: I didn't just have an effect on their earthly life.

1042
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 1: I had an effect on their eternal I got them

1043
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 1: to walk away from God. So Paul then has this

1044
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 1: encounter and he says, who are you? And he goes,

1045
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 1: I am Jesus. My name is Jesus. And he goes,

1046
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 1: what would you have me to do? Lord? And he says,

1047
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 1: go to the city where I tell you to go,

1048
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 1: and there I will tell you what to do. And

1049
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 1: we know the rest is history. Now, for those that

1050
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 1: struggle with God, probably your biggest struggle is probably a

1051
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 1: representative of God in the form of an experience with somebody,

1052
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 1: a Christian, a church pastor, a pastor. Yeah, believe me,

1053
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 1: they're out there and there's been some kind of reason

1054
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 1: that would cause you to be like that. Paul probably

1055
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:46,120
Speaker 1: had his reasons why he was doing what he was

1056
01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 1: doing until he said yes to Jesus, and when he did,

1057
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:58,440
Speaker 1: his world was changed. You're not saying yes in this

1058
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:03,240
Speaker 1: prayer to Christian Ristianity. You're saying yes to God. Christ

1059
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 1: did not come to set up a thing called Christianity.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people think a religion a religion. And

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Speaker 1: I'm going to come and offer another meat option on

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Speaker 1: the buffet line at Babe's Chicken in the Dallas Metroplex.

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Speaker 1: He didn't come to offer another option. He just said

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Speaker 1: I am I Am the Way, the truth and life.

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Speaker 1: So it's interesting the way offered the way, and it

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Speaker 1: just is simply, if you'd like to ask Christ to

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Speaker 1: be the lord of your life, you asked Christ to

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Speaker 1: forgive you of your sins, which is what he came

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Speaker 1: to offer. The biggest problem we all have is a

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Speaker 1: sin problem. That's the problem in all of us. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and none or too big, that's right. We've all even Scott,

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Speaker 1: even the guys you looked in the eye in the

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Speaker 1: in the prison, none of those were bad enough. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we've all sinned. Yes, none are righteous, no, not one,

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Speaker 1: but all of sinned. But Christ came to pay the ransom.

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Speaker 1: We were all guilty, we all belong in jail, we

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Speaker 1: all deserve judgment. But Christ said, I'll pay for your ransom.

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Speaker 1: I'll pay to bail you out of eternal damnation, and

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Speaker 1: I'll give you eternal life. All you have to simply

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Speaker 1: do is is say yes to me, and I'd like

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Speaker 1: to offer that prayer right now is as simple as

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Speaker 1: right where you are. You can say this with your mouth,

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Speaker 1: because the Bible says one has to confess Jesus with

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Speaker 1: their mouth that he is Lord and he was raised

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Speaker 1: from the dead, and believe in their heart Romans Chapter ten,

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Speaker 1: Verses nine and ten. So it's both. It's believing in

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Speaker 1: your heart, but it's also confession with your mouth, because

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Speaker 1: that mouth is the gateway, it's a door. It's out

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Speaker 1: of the heart speaks the mouth. We know that's to

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Speaker 1: be the truth. So it's his simplest saying, Jesus, I

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Speaker 1: ask you right now to forgive me my sins. I

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Speaker 1: ask you right now to come into my heart. I

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Speaker 1: confess that I have sinned. I confess that I need

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Speaker 1: a say, and I believe in my heart that you

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Speaker 1: are the Savior. You came to this world, and you

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Speaker 1: walked among this world for thirty three years until you

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Speaker 1: walked up that hill to a place called Galgatha, and

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Speaker 1: you died on a cross. But then three days later

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Speaker 1: you raise from the dead, and you prove that you

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Speaker 1: were the Lamb of God that takes away my sin

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Speaker 1: and the sin of the world. Take my life and

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Speaker 1: my life now belongs to you, and say this out loud.

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Speaker 1: I believe that I am your child through Jesus Christ,

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Speaker 1: and I will live forever because of Jesus and his

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Speaker 1: blood that was shed. Thank you God. Beginning right now now,

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Speaker 1: I have eternal life, and that's it so powerful. If

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Speaker 1: you said that prayer with Pastor Joe, comment below because

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Speaker 1: I would personally like to see if you're watching this

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Speaker 1: on YouTube. I know you can't comment on Spotify, but

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Speaker 1: comment below whatever platform you're using, I would love to

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Speaker 1: see where you were. Hopefully, if you're driving a big

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Speaker 1: truck right now on the open road, pull over before

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Speaker 1: you comment, but I would love to hear if you

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Speaker 1: if you said that prayer. Maybe you unsubscribed from this channel.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know, but I would love

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Speaker 1: to get some feedback because it means a whole lot

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Speaker 1: to me. It means a lot to me to know

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Speaker 1: that this message was repeated, as Pastor Joe said, And Buddy,

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Speaker 1: this was an honor. Well, we have watched your life.

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Speaker 1: My sons are the biggest fans, always have been years

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Speaker 1: ahead of you and I and our families meeting and

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Speaker 1: even being connected together now UH through the church and

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Speaker 1: through other circumstances. My boys have always been fans of

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Speaker 1: what everything this company, your your life, your platform is about.

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Speaker 1: And I I'm the biggest fan. I can't wait to

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Speaker 1: watch all that's gonna happen for for eee and all

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Speaker 1: things concerning the Smith family. Thanks for letting me be apart, Buddy,

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Speaker 1: my pleasure. We'll see you soon maybe absolutely. I'm here

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Speaker 1: for I almost forgot. UH tell everybody where they could

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Speaker 1: watch you give your sermons every Sunday morning. You don't

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Speaker 1: have to be in Central Texas, right, And I'm glad

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Speaker 1: I just remember this. You could tell you could tell

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Speaker 1: them where to watch it wherever you are in the world. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's Celebration Church in Austin, Texas. So it's Celebration dot

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Speaker 1: Church and UH our website. I think it's also a

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Speaker 1: Celebration Church dot com, but it's in Austin, Texas. Or

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Speaker 1: if you just type in Celebration Church Texas, there's a

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Speaker 1: Celebration Church in Jacksonville. And there's several other Celebration churches

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Speaker 1: out there. Some are connected to us, uh not necessarily

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Speaker 1: under us or US under them, but there's just that

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Speaker 1: name out there. So if you just type in Celebration

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Speaker 1: Church TX or Texas dot com and I probably just

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Speaker 1: gave you that five websites, right, but anyway, it's Celebration

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Speaker 1: that's freaking out right, you'll find it faster. Job. I'm

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Speaker 1: not a big technology guy. Just trust that you'll find us.

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Speaker 1: We'll link it in the top of the description. To

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Speaker 1: watch his sermons every Sunday is absolutely free of charge

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Speaker 1: and super easy and you might even see me and

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Speaker 1: Amber out there in the front row. Love you, Pastor Joe,

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Speaker 1: thank you, I love you. See you guys. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: joining me on the Grangersmith podcast. I appreciate all of you. Guys.

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Speaker 1: You could help me out by rating this podcast on iTunes.

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Speaker 1: miss anytime I upload a video. If you have a

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Speaker 1: question for me that you would like me to answer,

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Speaker 1: email Grangersmith Podcast at gmail dot com. Ye